I trained Muay Thai for years and got to a point where I felt confident that against someone of a similar size, I'm going to easily damage them. I then rolled BJJ for the first time and realised that if I don't manage to get a one shot knockout, eventually a grappler will grab you, get you down and the fight is literally over.
Same Iv boxed for years and I’m pretty confident in my skills but rolling in bjj is just different if a jujitsu practitioner gets a hold of you it’s pretty much over😂
Yeah the best is both but one on one I bet on grappling. But best maneuver of all is a titty twister. Or just tell the guy you're gay and horny and win by watching him walk away. Unless of course he's actually gay - and then your fake gay will make you want to walk away. This is all very Sun Tzu
@@leoalexandermusic maybe? I would think if you're more of a fast twitch fiber bound or larger guy that might be true. I think athleticism goes a little further in wrestling
@@jdt8983 to an extent. But you can show a wrestler a little bjj, and they will do a lot better than somebody who does bjj and learned a little wrestling. There's always exceptions of course, but I think wrestling is superior.
My training partner just crushed his attackers eye with a trained finger during mid take down... got exonerated by multiple boards, and back on duty. Oh, and it was a traditional martial art being applied during a street attack to a much larger person.
@@karamlevi “ under appreciated “ psssft ... wish I could get away with defending myself. so ur pig partner is back on duty ? sounds like a fabricated story but okay . I knocked out some mma bully at a Ymca when I just moved here from a high crime area and he attacked me first ( I’m tired of telling the story but he was 70 pounds heavier than me and he ambushed me when I didn’t know he was in the locker room ready to fight over me telling an acquaintance friend how rude him and his wife and daughter were in the sauna) ...I didn’t even have my shoes and socks on and was in my briefs and he had his shirt off and shoes on 😂😜 one left hook caught him because he underestimated me really bad . I was about to keep hitting him because I wanted to kill him . that’s why people should mind their own business. they wanted to give me six months in the work house and I had to waste my money on a lawyer. glad my fam helped me out . the loading dock pays peanuts 🥜. 🐷 the life of King Tut but mad because people r telling it how it is and has been for a long time.
he didn’t get a chance to take me down because I’m sure that’s what he wanted because I’m kinda small and cute until I get mad 😡😂😜 I looked the guy up on Facebook and he had a few amateur fights that he won. he staggered out that locker room leaking with a lump on his face bleeding all over his family. he tried to demand an apology from a guy like me and it wasn’t happening. yeah try being a normal person in the hood without a badge 😂😜wow.
Thats why these vaginal police men need to train.. I think its their fear/cowardice and lack of confidence that begets their immediate unprovoked violence
Knowing how to strike protects you from random brawlers, knowing how to wrestle protects you from people who only know how to strike. As someone who does boxing, if someone tries to take me to the ground from the onset I know im fucked...most people dont go to ground unless they know what they are doing. On the other hand, in an open space, you can box multiple opponents (2-3 max, if your very very lucky) but you can only ever grapple one person at a time.
@Nikolaij Brouiller because you’re scared and not smart. don’t run ur mouth if u don’t want ur face cracked open . and if u shoot them u go to prison where you’ll still be scared and get beat every day 😂😜shut up keyboard warrior. there’s a major surplus of u online.
Krav Maga was a blend of martial arts techniques developed for last resort use by captured civilians and guerillas. Defendu was the system for the SOE combat practitioners. The truth of any martial art is that it's like being a musician. Yes, there are classical schools, and technical systems, but the real players are individuals with their own style. Study everything. Do what works for you.
Weareallbeingwatched I think it it depends on how you train. For example if your main goal is self defence and you don’t spar or pressure test then what’s the point of learning or teaching it. Most schools don’t do that and instead give off a mcdojo vibe
@@MW-3002 well, krav is pretty good for keyboard warriors - the techniques are cunning ambushes, and can have some very ugly outcomes. You are only supposed to use those techniques as a last resort, and they are a gamble which might save your life... or might not. Krav is ideal for keyboard warriors and inexperienced fighters. That is what it was designed for. Defendu you really shouldn't "just have a go" at, and the sparring can put people in hospital as well.
I remember my grandfather telling me that a fight shouldn't last any longer than three seconds. But then he was a WW2 SAS veteran so, to him, a fight ended when one of you was dead.
He’s right though. Most street fights is just a bunch of monkeying around without an actual ability or willingness to end it. For most It’s about the beat down now the win. My Sensei told me the same thing, if it takes you more than 3-30 seconds to finish a fight, you don’t know what you’re doing
@@SatorMoon I disagree, fights are shorter when no one knows what they are doing because they just wale power shots at each other with no strategy or patience. The more experienced the fighters the longer the fight becomes. Unless of course you have an incredibly experienced fighter vs some random joe, then yes it will be over quickly.
I did both karate and jiu jitsu and in our karate dojo to get from brown to black belt we were required to learn jiu jitsu takedowns and submissions which was a huge benefit for me because when I became a brown belt in karate I was also a purple belt in jiu jitsu so everything we were being taught i already knew. But in my opinion it was the best practice that our sensei (who also was a police officer) implemented
Karate's grappling is borrowed from the Judo (technically Jiu Jitsu) of the occupying samurai of Okinawa. They're nigh identical. Learning Judo or BJJ is like going more in-depth in karate's grappling.
My old Kenpo instructor... who started in his early 20's and is now in his 60's and a 10th degree black belt... always encouraged us to go learn some jujitsu or something similar and incorporate it into our Kenpo. His logic is he recognized that the one weakness of kenpo was a lack of ground game, and he believed it couldn't hurt us and only help us if only to get a different perspective.
My main art, my base is Muay Thai, which incorporates sparring, devastating strikes but also a lot of grappling which makes it really a really good choice and a perfect stand-alone complete martial art to invest in it, for using it -if ever needed in self-defense situations. But jujitsu can help us to complete our main art, whatever this is, and transform it to another level, as it fits perfectly everywhere and has no real form, it takes form depending on the situation, so it is a valuable tool to confront everything. 🙏
@@TheLateScottBaio The art of Muay Thai of "now" in comparison to "The Siam Kingdom" Era, is a completely different martial art after it has evolved so much by then, as I have covered this in my Documentary, Muay Thai - The Arts of MMA. As modern jiujitsu has nothing to do with samurai jiujutsu. But here you are talking about an invasion which is an armed conflict, which is another thing. Muay Thai or BJJ or etc is just only a tool in a multi-factor, highly tactic "game". During my service, I've realized that the best weapon is the "team", as a special forces' squad, moving as one, breathing as one, acting as one, the perfect combination and execution of the plan under pressure, and not action-movie jumps kicks and "cinematic" heroism. And there were guys less proficient in "martial arts" that could decapitate someone in seconds with a knife out of pure killer instinct. When it comes to war, sometimes it doesn't matter how good or badass you are, you and your whole squad, or the entire army loses and has casualties as in every conflict in human history. A "peasant" literally ended the Duchy of Burgundy in 1477 with a simple swing of his halberd... We must underestimate no one. Thank you.
If I could pick only one then yes, MT has the edge. But boxers have much, much better hands and wrestlers have much, much better takedowns, defenses. My MT Kru was always trying to change my hands (I came from a boxing and wrestling background) but in sparring my hands were much better than any of the pure MT guys.
I did Taekwondo as a kid then wrestling in high school, and now I'm doing boxing. Before I did wrestling, though, if someone got me in a headlock I was in trouble. You gotta know both for each situation.
Boxing: the art with easiest learning curve; even a little training will go a long way, but it can be honed to a masterful level. Stance, striking, and defense.
@@GhostRider-uk3xv He didn't say it wasn't he said boxing is easier to learn an highly effective. Which is all true and can remain true even with Muay Thai beinh better overall.
@@LanMandragon1720 yeah from my experience boxing is much easier to learn because you only have to worry about a couple variables, where as muay thai there are much more factors involved
@Zyan Pearsall this is definitely not true, they have really good defense and clinches and shit. Its not like muay thai users just stand there and get punched in the nose lol
I was jumped by two guys. Super confident in my bjj, I took him down after he sundayed me in the back of the ear. As I began to go to work, his buddy started pounding me in the back of the head which got me to let him go. Once I let him go, he delivered three shots to my face knocking me out. Bjj only works against 1 dude.. Always be aware of your surroundings 👍
Always thought this, sorry it happened to you but exactly what I expected from bjj on the street. The best thing IMO is learning stand-up space management and leg kicks.
Even if it was one guy, its a stupid streetfight. What are you going to do, snap his leg or arm? Slam him to the ground and break his back and possibly kill him? Just punch/poke an eye and run away.
I believe that when the person claimed to be a traditional karate practicer, he means that he practices something closer to the original Okinawa karate, which was based in self defense and included grappling and the use of weapons, opposed to the sportified version of karate which is widely practiced around the globe as a form of sports, competition and recreation.
I am a traditional karateka, trained in full contact Okinawan karate and I have to back what Jocko says. Thinking of stopping a grappler with striking only is pure fantasy.
My dad started me with judo at 5 . We started doing boxing and leg striking at 7 . When I went inton7th grade he decided to be assistant coach for a wrestling program so I started wrestling folk ,free style and greco that year . I got secound in state forfeiting 1st that first year dislocating my shoulder . I pretty much dominated until 10th grade when we moved to a no wrestling state . I started learning bjj when I was in the army . Defiantly my years of experience prior made thw transition very easy
Judo is very underrated for self defense in a street fight. BJJ is incredible and 1 on 1 you will absolutely annihilate someone trying to hurt you with no experience, but judo allows you to defensively throw someone HARD on very hard surfaces while not putting yourself on the ground (or risking yourself slamming to the ground) which in a street fight is very relevant. If it's in a street fight there's rocks, glass, metal, concrete, weapons, people kicking (potentially), animals, etc. that are all major problems. That said, if you have spent time like jocko learning BJJ and spending time studying martial arts, probably 99.9% of the people you encounter that is not a war situation (drunk, criminals, just general jerks) you're going to destroy them lol.
Just find what you love!!!! If you enjoy the process, you’ll succeed. Of course, having two different arts combined is great! Boxing and Jiu-Jitsu for me)
Effectiveness is situational. Learn all you can, from whatever you can. I've used Karate to defend my wife in a multiple attackers scenario. (My JJ training wouldn't work.) I've also use my JJ to restrain an one-off attacker, where my Karate was less effective in controlling the threat. Don't get stuck in 'styles.' Stay mission minded.
@@byronfrescatore7276 Is it too late for me to train in bjj, wrestling and boxing? I feel like those three would be there most useful in a street fight situation. I’m 22 years old.
@@DannyBoy426 I’ll say it now if you’re getting into training for the specific reasoning being it’ll help in a street fight be careful that’s how I thought,being a trained fighter boosts your ego and if you’re looking for street fights as a trained fighter with a higher ego things can end very badly,keep this in mind
Been doing traditional karate for 15 years, and I wrestled consistently for 3. I’ve found that in my striking when they get too close they panic where as I’m at home. You gotta train both boys. They hit the nail on the head here!
I still practice some of my wrestling to keep the rust off, and I use the throws in my karate sparring constantly. I also roll with my friend who does bjj
I was raised in the rural Appalachian Mountains during the 70s and 80s. When I was growing up disputes were settled by fist fights. No one had access to martial arts training but what they did have access to was wrestling in high school. I can tell you that without a doubt the guys who were on the wrestling team for four years were not to be messed with. They would destroy guys who thought they were tough. It's just a fact that someone who is trained in grappling can hurt you.
Wrestling and grappling isn't everything there's so much more that goes into a fight, this is why I have an issue with talking to grapplers about martial arts I've been in martial arts for a very long time Muay Thai specifically and I have never a met a single wrestler jujitsu or judo practitioner that was humble these people seriously think that grappling is the end all be and that's all you need to know and that's the only thing that makes you dangerous it doesn't, it's fuckin annoying. There are numerous things and other disciplines and techniques and skill sets that can be utilized in fighting in taking somebody down not everything is wrestling.
Wrestlers good wrestlers seem to double leg me almost every time with no problem lol definitely important to get good double leg sprawls under hooks over hooks etc
Big issues with many self defence systems like Krav is that they bank on you facing someone who a) isn’t anticipating your attack b) doesn’t know how to fight Go do martial sports and build your foundation of grappling and striking SKILLS, and develop physical CAPABILITIES. Then do Krav Maga and etc to add some spicy groin kicks to your toolbox. No point knowing groin kicks if something as simple as their stance offsets your entire game.
@@TabooRevolution13 depends on how good each fighter is in their respective art. The rock/paper/scissors, this art beats that art thing is pure fantasy and only made by those with no real fighting experience.
@@TabooRevolution13 wing chun is useless in real fights. If you watch too many Ip Man films you believe it will work but in real world it is not efficent at all
Every full contact martial art/combat sport is effective simply because you feel the pain,stress and experience situations adapted to real fighting. I prefer striking but grappling is equally realistic. The best thing though is to practice both striking and grappling if you have the time and money to do so.
It is all relative, dependent on the situation. My experience is this.......1 v 1 grappler vs striker (similar ability is respective art) = wrestler has advantage. 1 v 1 experienced striker or experienced grappler vs non trained individual = Doesn't matter, both effective. 1 vs multiple opponents= striker has advantage over grappler (better footwork to line up opponents and deal with one at a time, may not KO all of them but who says you need a KO to deter or neutralise someone. Loads of videos online of strikers KO'ing 3,4 even 5 opponents in a short space of time, never seen a grappler put multiple opponents to sleep within 10-15 seconds.
The distance management statement is very true, I am a mixed martial artist (karate wu-shu and silat) and I have found that the ability to maintain your ideal distance away from the opponent is crucially effective in a fight. Double legged takedowns are avoidable if you think fast enough to keep up with your reflexes.
Being able to manage distance is nice...but it is not always a luxury you will have. Best is to not rule out the possibility that the fight will not always be on your terms.
Pretty interesting. I have often heared that you should end a street fight quickly (maybe with a preventive strike) and that you should never go to the ground, because one idiot often doesn´t come alone, so while you put the "attacker" to the ground, another guy (maybe a friend of the attacker) kicks you to the head. Beside that I agree with what he said about Jiu Jutsu.
I was all state wrestler, i was decent, but I learned if u ever get into a fight with multiple attackers u really don’t wanna go to the ground so I started boxing which i did for a long time, i started BJJ about 8 years ago, i its very effective! U have to know the stand up, and the ground game in this day!!
I’ve done grappling my whole life. Did judo and bjj and am currently wrestling in hs. I did a little bit of karate and am trying to get into a few striking fundamentals lessons
“One answer is not the answer” is a perfect statement, for an imperfect world. You final statements say it all. You don’t need my affirmation. I just mean to compliment your point.
The reality is that every martial art is a tool that has functionality and applications that work best in certain situations. A hammer, screw driver and knife will be able to be utilized in different ways but effectiveness comes down to the quality of the tool and knowledge of how to apply it. Having a comprehensive knowledge gives you broad spectrum of skills and how to apply them. This is how you find out your own style and become formless as Bruce Lee spoke of. A painting is not defined by a single color so why should your own form of self expression through martial arts. Let me know if you see it it different 🤝🏻👍🏻
I think what he meant by traditional karate is okinawan karate, where it is much more close range and includes quite a bit of grappling before they spread it to japan and simplified it to just striking in orfer to teach larger classes
Grappling is the best for one on one fighting no doubt, but in today's world it is essential to know either boxing or muy thai would help fighting multiple attackers
you are right you need grappling knowledge in your back pocket, but for actually protect yourself you should be circling while striking people who get close to you and looking for an opportunity to run not going to the ground deliberately lol
@@ranfan1820 cuz a judo throw or trip doesn't take more than 10 seconds or maybe less and there's a video on RUclips of a wrestler fighting two guys and he beat the shit of them
For me the main objective in self defense is having a high takedown defense to try to stop someone smashing my bones and brain in hard concrete. So, wrestling/jiujitsu BUT being strong, explosive and muscular first by working out. Because this is the most devastating thing that commonly occurs in a fight. Sadly, weight matters, a lot. Secondly, try to be hard so be knocked out and, again, smash my brain on hard concrete in my fall to the ground. So boxing is crucial aswell.
for that reason i would choose wrestling in first place, u get jacked af and have all the things that u mentioned, then i would go for boxing and bjj, i even would say muay thai but not all the people have access to this, even wrestling and bjj is hard to find, for that reason in a lot of places boxing is the unique defense system for a lot of people
@@trujilloroldancarlosarturo4281 I finally found boxing and bjj literally side by side from each other but 100% agree just 6 months to a year of wrestling will make u wayyyy stronger and much harder to take down
@@Bawks_FEET and the thing that i dont like from bjj is pulling guard, i think that is most importante to know how to defend takedowns or throws and being in the dominant position, submission are dangerous too but i u have to fight, u have to fight
I’ve never been knocked out but I’ve knocked a few out . my neck is strong and flexible. that’s why I kept that upload too...deleted almost all of the rest.
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I’ve done the fighting and gone to the gyms, folk style, freestyle, Roman Greco, jiu jitsu and knowing how to throw a punch and some kicks for the stand up game are truly effective. Occasionally you still get rocked it is what it is, jiu jitsu beats wrestling all things equal but if I’m a better wrestler then you are at jiu jitsu wrestling wins, if we’re equal grapplers the one with the better standup game wins. There are plenty of freaks out there that can wreck your life with muy tai or whatever, but those guys know take down defense as well. My conclusion is (take it as you may, I’m a key board warrior after all) a grappling background is always key. This is from a 26 year old definitely out of shape fighter/ wrestler that got out of the game.
i was trained in judo, taekwondo, boxing and muay thai. Each martial art is unique to one another, so in my opinion it is not a good idea to compare every style and conclude which is the best. i think the main essence of martial arts is not about which style is the best, but rather what do martial arts does for a person. There are many positive things we can get from martial arts like having strong mind, body and spirit. So regardless of the style I think that any martial arts is useless if it makes a people an asshole instead of a better person.
Don I agree with you in attitude but certainly not belief since none of what you mention is Martial Art(s). Bruce Lee has everyone thinking they are an Martial Artists bc they practice self defense. There is only one Martial Art and Bruce Lee was banned from learning it. His whole complaint was that what he knew was not enough. (wing chun "Beautiful Springtime") You cannot say that about Martial Arts. The only thing I have heard anyone say when coming to Gung-fu is "they will never take anything else". (I learned Gung-fu in East Cleveland Ohio 1st generation and before that Chinese Kenpo with the Stracy's and Shaolin with James Cook) afterwards coming to California; judo Roy Bushudo, aikido June Mateo, more king-fu My Jong longhorn w Peter Wong, Tai Chi Chuan (2 original forms of Kings and Jung) with rick Peterson, and can showed them all how it came from gung-fu) And while karate training and kung-fu training will condition your body, its effect is not meant to be long lasting. And that is bc what Martial arts does is build Chi (rapidly) which comes from zen which is incorporated into the forms to do it coupled with weaponry training. (lotus sutra) Karate (barr none) and kung-fu cannot do this even if you practiced it 100 years. BTW us what happened in Shaolin originally before they discovered Gung-fu. They practiced Chinese Boxing for 2300 years or more. But took 7 years to develop Gung-fu with Buddha's help but he never learned it just provided the text (3) and helped the monks getting healthy. As a rule the name of the art form tells you where it is from. Judo is a sport (considered in Japan) like taekwondo is in Korea. Muy tai actually descends out of tai boxing so neither of these are Martial Arts bc they do not produce chi. The use of chi in Martial Arts is for breaking bones, maiming and taking life. This is why they do not condone it being shown. And yet you learn it you know it you show it. The idea is if you see Martial Arts it will kill you in battle. True Martial Arts from Central Shaolin (before it was Northern) is now Southern China PaQua kuntao style. There is no comparison!
As an analytic person I like to separate terms rather than conflating all kinds of things into a single term. As such, the quality of a martial art should be defined by how much it increases your chances to defend yourself, period. Don't mix all kinds of criteria into it. If you want a strong mind, body, spirit you can as well run or dance or meditate. If you want to get more flexible, you can just stretch or dance. That's not what separates a good from a bad MA because it doesn't have anything to do with MA. Apart from that it's usually not the martial art itself who makes an a-hole of a person but, if anything at all, the people you're training with.
judo is best full stop ! as someone in law enforcement i can tell you in court judo got you covered,,,esp on cctv if covered,,,you engage in struggle a throw/push is alot more easy on eye compared to say even one closed fist punch,plus nothing hits harder than concrete,
@@masrurbule2868 almost every boxing match ends up in the cling. Actually ALL boxing matches. That's why the referee separates them. Now, that's the range where judo comes into play. Of course striking is important too. You need all to be a complete fighter boxing/muay thai + wrestling/judo /bjj
For me its 85% standing (mostly striking) and 15% grappling (not to become a grappler, but being proficient at protecting myself on the ground, sweeping, flipping and standing back up).
I did many years of Karate, and there was some basic ground fighting, submissions, etc...but nothing on the level of BJJ. Once upon a time, Karate did have grappling.
The one you can use with real effect in actual combat. Seen people make TKD work, BJJ, boxing, Thai boxing, Kyokushinkai, Savate, and others well. Seen a lot of ppl use them badly too lol.
@@shkotayd9749 as inexperienced as I am in this department I’ve taken some Krav and from the people Ik that train it as well as teach it it seems to be doing something right Bc it’s a lot of veterans and bjj guys
@@cadecontent6107 Real world and full contact sport application reveals all, eventually. I havent seen KM arise in either. it may be a different art for different application altogether, i dont know. But it seems relatively rare and esoteric.
@@aris.a2912 Most martial arts have segments that redesigned themselves for competition. I dont see KM having done so successfully in any respect. Even Sambo was designed to be primarily a grappling style used in real world combat. It transitioned readily into sport combat and even MMA for some fighters. Still, again I am largely ignorant of KM. It could be all those things.
Biggest downside I find with bjj/grappling in general is. If there is more than one person attacking you...the last place you want to be is on the floor.
I took up judo almost 15 years ago as a means to learn self-defence, after I got assaulted by two men. At the time, I was clinically obese and unhealthy. What I found through judo though was not self-defence, but good health, a new found passion for health, fitness and judo (as well as martial arts), and lifelong friends. I received my first degree blackbelt (Shodan) in judo last year, and have been coaching children, teenagers and adults for six years now. I honestly do not know if judo can be effectively used for self-defence. I took up judo to learn self-defence, but in the last 15 years, I have never found myself in a situation of violence. I do know that a lot of judo clubs claim that they offer "self-defence" as a selling point to their club, but the truth is, they often don't. Judo is usually taught as a sport, with rules, and they teach their techniques within the boundaries of the sport. If a judo club was to actually offer self-defence, I believe they should have a curriculum catered to self-defence, as well as independent training sessions in the week that are catered to self-defence. I think judo is a good martial art, though. Judo is, like Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) and mixed martial arts (MMA), a competitive combat sport, so there is a lot of training that goes toward cardiovascular conditioning, as well as sparring (or in judo, 'randori', which means free practice). Grappling with another human-being who is trying to throw you, while you are trying to throw them, and neither one of you wants to be thrown, is quite challenging, whether it's tachi-waza (standing techniques) and/or ne-waza (groundwork). So, it's not quite 'real fighting' but I think it is a realistic application of grappling and wrestling with another human-being who is in a sense, trying to cause 'harm' to you (in a training environment, your training partner(s) won't or shouldn't be trying to 'hurt' you, but would be at least trying to be successful with their techniques against you). I do believe judo offers some incredibly practical skills for self-defence, though. Skills such as ukemi (translating to 'receiving of body'), basically breakfalls, learning how to fall over without harm, and/or learning how to be taken to the ground and minimizing as much damage as possible. I also believe that judo's ne-waza is quite explosive, and could be handy to help someone learn how to escape a ground situation and return to standing (to run away, or something). Admittingly, I should probably learn a proper striking art, like boxing, but I have tried to look into local boxing clubs and find that they generally operate on the same nights I am at judo, and I can't do that, because I am also a judo coach... but I guess in fairness, I have been lucky that these past 15 years, I have never been involved in a physical, violent confrontation. Part of self-defence is, in my opinion, awareness. Things such as where not to go, locations of exit(s) and an escape route, obstacles toward an exit, people who might be able to help (security, police, friends), as well as people in general... paying attention to their body language, tone of voice, choice of dialog, distance between you and them, if they have friends nearby etc.
I have done karate for some years when I tried to go to a grappling art and when I tried striking their groin or poke their eyes like they taught me in karate they said that it's not allowed, so in my opinion karate is much more bad ass
@@BarrySwami10 Stretch Stretch Stretch!!! Before and after! Man my biceps and traps were so tight the next day for trying to power my way through everything even though I thought I was being relaxed. But stretch your body often. The last class I tweeked my calf muscle idk how. So I have to take perhaps a week off. But we have to keep stretching and strengthening our bodies. I never did jits so I'm using different positions and muscles.
@@BarrySwami10 In class you go over the lesson for about an 45 and then roll we for 45 minutes (1 rounds of 5 minutes). Always say I'm a new white belt! I rolled with all shapes and sizes and just be careful with the big guys they are cool but so fuckin heavy! Watch out for wrestlers because they are rough af. Tell people hey I'm new and going through the motions. I rolled 4 to 5x per class. I already did 4 classes.
@@BarrySwami10 I've got my first rear naked choke on a blue belt on my second class. And the other day another rear naked choke and a triangle a brand new guy trying the class. Other then that I keep getting tapped out and often smashed. It's awesome though!!! My ego has a reality check but I'm also I had the balls to join and keep goin. At 41 I think I would recommend going once a week and work your way up, to prevent injuries. It's a marathon not a sprint. It's insane how skilled and strong some of these guys are and I'm no slouch. I love it. This my real experience. To be continued......
I train Brazilian jujitsu under a Relson Gracies school. First thing I learned was distance management and how to deal with taking someone to the ground and not getting hit. Nowadays in BJJ schools they don’t teach any of that is just pure rolling with no strikes. It is such a disservice when they do that
As a beginner Muay Thai practitioner who watched some of the similar videos, I understood that knowing striking martial art is like bringing a sword/axe/mace on a battlefield, and knowing wrestling martial art is like bringing a shield. A mighty sword can do a lot of damage to an enemy, but you better have a mighty shield in addition to your sword.
@5:31 “we’re worried about the next 42 seconds of a fight that’s about to happen, not the next three decades of my life where you can see me break down” Jocko summed it up there in terms of the traditional martial arts & MMA competition training methodology and mindset; which is why he didn’t think much about football players getting bashed in the head constantly and potentially get CTE. The other major difference between traditional martial arts & mma (in the context of competing) is that traditional martial arts to their credit also have an emphasis on long term health & longevity (even if there is varying degree of scientific validity) where as mma competition fighters training only concerns themselves with the immediate upcoming fight so which is why it is more common to see traditional martial artist who even in their old age still able to perform where as most of the first generation MMA fighters like the OG football players before them all suffer from traumatic brain injury and are wheelchair ridden or worse. Actually, forget MMA, even in boxing (which is a major fight style MMA fighters love to mix into their MMA), Muhammed Ali towards the latter end of his life wasn’t entirely there.
All I can picture is seeing Jocko on the line in football, waiting for the snap. Staring him down face-to-face, realizing the whole plan was to throw punches. You’ve got a few feet and a few punches then you’re on the ground anyway. What if you get nervous/intimidated last moment? What if he’s already within striking distance? Shorter, taller, etc.? Put it into practice, and test your plan! Sure going full speed with karate kicks will wear down someone in practice, and cause injuries, but don’t let it be the only plan or rely on it being 100% successful, 100% of the time.
@@tonypaella Not at all. Having been in martial arts/combatives for 15 years at times some styles and systems fall victim to myopic views and cultism. Ultimately, its the indian and not the arrow so as people mature in their training they find what does and doesn't work for them. It's refreshing to have someone who loves one system, but is supportive and open to others choosing their own path. Too much of martial arts and combat is a dick measuring contest.
@@kaioken1110 yeah that part was good. But more often than not i feel like he's putting BJJ on a pedestal, and i think he's the opposite of impartial. I disagree with him on a lot of things, like it being hard to knock someone out. Oftentimes he sounds like BJJ is the be all end all, like he's selling something. That's why I thought you were being sarcastic because i find him the opposite of being balanced.
@@tonypaella I agree that everyone puts BJJ on a pedestal. That being said he literally is the least cultish and that's saying something haha. 99% of grapplers would never concede to cross train. I train BBJ/Grappling along with other things, so I get its merit as an addition to an arsenal. That being said BJJ is the martial arts equivalent of Crossfit or Sig Sauer. Everyone drinks the kool aid and it's off-putting.
@ 03:00 depends where u hit the person , at football they don't get hit hundred of times in the chin for example . Chin which is a very sensitive point for everyone , doesn't matter how big or about training ! Learning martial arts are pressure points that you get to know , and if those are hit is game over for anyone !
Exactly his point at the end, train for it all. I train in h2h the most of any one thing and take all my training seriously. But I take any practical weapons training most seriously, namely defensively against knives, and most serious at the top of it all ANYTHING firearms related. Regardless of owning/having access to the actual firearms or not.
I believe in what ever works in a certain situation because no encounter is the same you have to be able to flow not be stuck thinking about what might work,because training in one style will hold your potential back,situational awareness ,avoidance if possible if not it's on like donkey kong 👍
Im a Black Belt jiu Jitsu and karate. Ive done some intense years of kick boxing... And I think the best martial art is a combination of striking and ground game. Toi should be good standing and good on the ground too
Short-sighted perspective. I served in Recon. Trained in whats now known as MMA since I was 5. I love BJJ. Rolling is a lot like Chi Sao. I like the UFC especially 1&2. Jocko, wake up to the fact that BJJ doesn't actively guard against punches on the ground (excluding combat BJJ). Most BJJ fighters are totally obvious to how exposed they are to strikes while rolling. A huge amount of situations in BJJ are absolutely a death sentence in a real fight. Even UFC style MMA isn't that impressive considering there is over 27 rules on attacks you cant perform in the octagon. You fight as you train? Yes, I do believe I've heard that somewhere. And all of those 27 violations are things you should be doing as a primary in a real time situation. They make the difference between who lives and who dies. Jocko, how about grappling in a bar? Or on the streets when your head hits a pole or a curb? Its over, nice going BJJ. Also, when in real life are you fighting against just one person? Oh, good idea... lets roll on the ground while his buddies just honorably watch and let two men battle it out. In combat you stay away from grappling. Period! A lot of what you are saying is great for the ring but not great for a world without tap out’s and ref’s. The ring is not combat and you know better, Team Guy. You are so in love with BJJ and the ring that you have lost sight of reality. War doesn't happen on a nice mat or ring. BJJ is great... but its a sport. A sport with limitations. Those limitations in a very simple way will be used against you. Keep that in mind.
I agree just about, except can the striker have good takedown defence as well even if he's not good once on the ground becuase if you know the guys gonna shoot on you it can be an advantage to be ready and quick to adjust, pivot etc. On avarage it does seem without a rounded game the grappler will have an advantage as long as he knows how to protect his head forehead and top you can take, temple, jaw and ear etc you may not have all your marbles with you once you do close the distance and even a 1 dimensional fighter may out wrestle you if you've got shaken heavily on the way in. I guess the averages favour the ground guy but its very dependent on individuals calibre
It depends on the situation, and your capabilities. I think most people, both trained and untrained, can throw a decent jab and cross. But take kicking for example. Kicking is out of the question if you aren't training for them. Maybe it's just me, but kicking always felt super unnatural to me. But if you are good at kicking, you might as well use it. Know what you're good at, and what you're bad at. As someone who has always been fascinated by martial arts, I can't say I've trained for self-defense, since I do it for fun. But I think that's the majority of the Martial arts community. It's either for fun, of for sport and competition. Actual self-defense training should probably consist of learning how to not be at the wrong place at the wrong time, and be relatively street smart.
My own sensei in karate brought in a close friend of his who was a BJJ instructor to teach BJJ classes twice a week because he said it was the most effective martial art for self-defense, especially for us young women. And as a young woman who has used BJJ to get out of a chokehold put on me by a guy, I'm always thankful for being introduced to martial arts and by extension, BJJ. It legitimately saved my life.
I feel like wresting is the most important because generally the person with the better wresting determines where the fight takes place and helps you control and incompasitate a person on the ground
@Italo-Celtic Sure, anything will be very effective if your opponent sits there and does nothing. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Grapplers ubiquitously dominated the early MMA scene, back when there were definitive Grappler vs Striker matches. It turns out that, once the grappler gets a hold of the striker, the grappler is extremely favored to win, and this is how the matchup played out the majority of the time. It's not so easy to immediately incapacitate someone with strikes if they are using a modicum of defense. Jocko's description of the early UFC is completely correct. Sorry man, I know you don't like to hear it, but he's right on this one.
well rounded in my opinion . my strength and aggression and my punch kept me from getting bullied but also got me in trouble before. I’m missing practicing with some tough guys right now . and I couldn’t practice everyday because unlike now I was working the loading dock forty a week. so I’m just constantly trying to do something even if I’m posting crazy comments . haha
From my very limited experience (12 street fights in 30 years, being attacked twice, 2 cumulative years of JKD and Krav-Maga, and currently 70 hours in Gracie Jiu-jitsu along with tons of research) grappling beats striking 9 of 10 times. For a 1 on 1 fight(not talking about organized cage fighting/mma) Gracie Jiu-jitsu is one of, if not the best, you can take. Also, be in shape, cardio, and lift weights. The best form of self defense is awareness and be an imposing target, u will be less likely to be attacked.
You really think Gracie BJJ is one of the best? The reason I ask this is that I see so many BJJ guys resort to guard pulling and trying play a guard game in general. I have a lot of respect for BJJ so please don't think that I am attacking it. But so many sport BJJ folks that I see have no idea how to cover their head or defend against strikes. In addition I'm not sure that looking at MMA fights is the best gauge of the grappler vs striker discussion. Jocko mentioned double legs in the video. My question is how easy is that to pull off on pavement or a sidewalk or in a nightclub? Don't get me wrong, a college level wrestler is an awesome athlete and I've seen some real killers at BJJ gyms. But the guard pullers and players who always want to start from guard are not preparing themselves in my humble opinion.
Jocko is correct in that it is hard to knock someone out with a hit to the head. Professional boxers that have demonstrated the ability to knock an opponent out with one well landed punch, like Mike Tyson or Thomas Hearns to name a couple, is considered a high achievement, a highly developed skill in professional boxing. That is why they are referred to as “knockout artists”. Also their ability is so highly developed that they can not only choose their timing for a knockout but they land the knockout punch right where it will do the most damage with the intended results, and if you watch carefully you’ll see that most knockout punches land in the face or on the jaw or square on the chin. Hooks to the temple can achieve dramatic knockouts. But if you watch in professional boxing, and lets admit that professional boxers are quite possibly the most effective punchers, many boxers receive very hard punches to the head (cranium) and continue to fight. As Tyson said many times “Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face.” Notice he didn’t say head.
I trained Muay Thai for years and got to a point where I felt confident that against someone of a similar size, I'm going to easily damage them. I then rolled BJJ for the first time and realised that if I don't manage to get a one shot knockout, eventually a grappler will grab you, get you down and the fight is literally over.
Same Iv boxed for years and I’m pretty confident in my skills but rolling in bjj is just different if a jujitsu practitioner gets a hold of you it’s pretty much over😂
Yeah the best is both but one on one I bet on grappling. But best maneuver of all is a titty twister. Or just tell the guy you're gay and horny and win by watching him walk away. Unless of course he's actually gay - and then your fake gay will make you want to walk away. This is all very Sun Tzu
Wrestling>bjj
@@leoalexandermusic maybe? I would think if you're more of a fast twitch fiber bound or larger guy that might be true. I think athleticism goes a little further in wrestling
@@jdt8983 to an extent. But you can show a wrestler a little bjj, and they will do a lot better than somebody who does bjj and learned a little wrestling. There's always exceptions of course, but I think wrestling is superior.
"Everyone has a plan till they get double leg take-downed" - Jocko Willink probably
My training partner just crushed his attackers eye with a trained finger during mid take down... got exonerated by multiple boards, and back on duty.
Oh, and it was a traditional martial art being applied during a street attack to a much larger person.
@@karamlevi yeah, sure he did 😂
@@karamlevi “ under appreciated “ psssft ... wish I could get away with defending myself. so ur pig partner is back on duty ? sounds like a fabricated story but okay . I knocked out some mma bully at a Ymca when I just moved here from a high crime area and he attacked me first ( I’m tired of telling the story but he was 70 pounds heavier than me and he ambushed me when I didn’t know he was in the locker room ready to fight over me telling an acquaintance friend how rude him and his wife and daughter were in the sauna) ...I didn’t even have my shoes and socks on and was in my briefs and he had his shirt off and shoes on 😂😜 one left hook caught him because he underestimated me really bad . I was about to keep hitting him because I wanted to kill him . that’s why people should mind their own business. they wanted to give me six months in the work house and I had to waste my money on a lawyer. glad my fam helped me out . the loading dock pays peanuts 🥜. 🐷 the life of King Tut but mad because people r telling it how it is and has been for a long time.
he didn’t get a chance to take me down because I’m sure that’s what he wanted because I’m kinda small and cute until I get mad 😡😂😜 I looked the guy up on Facebook and he had a few amateur fights that he won. he staggered out that locker room leaking with a lump on his face bleeding all over his family. he tried to demand an apology from a guy like me and it wasn’t happening. yeah try being a normal person in the hood without a badge 😂😜wow.
@@karamlevi oh forgot to say : I got freaky strong hands 😂😜 arm wrestle me 💰 I’ll take it . from working hard and genetics. my family all has it.
Striking and grappling are both halves of the same thing: hand-to-hand combat.
its all a part of SWAG bro
Yes !
I think it depends on who you are but more like a 3/4ths (grappling) and a 1/4th (striking)
untrained people like to pretend that grappling doesn't work lol
Being able to handle yourself striking and on the ground builds huge confidence
Thats why these vaginal police men need to train.. I think its their fear/cowardice and lack of confidence that begets their immediate unprovoked violence
Knowing how to strike protects you from random brawlers, knowing how to wrestle protects you from people who only know how to strike. As someone who does boxing, if someone tries to take me to the ground from the onset I know im fucked...most people dont go to ground unless they know what they are doing.
On the other hand, in an open space, you can box multiple opponents (2-3 max, if your very very lucky) but you can only ever grapple one person at a time.
@Nikolaij Brouiller unless u made the unaverage person mad 😂🤬😡
@Nikolaij Brouiller I go in with a level head but a desire to tear them up. yeah I’m a hot head but I can plot when I’m mad.
@Nikolaij Brouiller because you’re scared and not smart. don’t run ur mouth if u don’t want ur face cracked open . and if u shoot them u go to prison where you’ll still be scared and get beat every day 😂😜shut up keyboard warrior. there’s a major surplus of u online.
As a keyboard warrior, I'll tell you now, Krav is factually the best based on my years of inexperience.
Krav Maga was a blend of martial arts techniques developed for last resort use by captured civilians and guerillas. Defendu was the system for the SOE combat practitioners.
The truth of any martial art is that it's like being a musician. Yes, there are classical schools, and technical systems, but the real players are individuals with their own style. Study everything. Do what works for you.
Weareallbeingwatched I think it it depends on how you train. For example if your main goal is self defence and you don’t spar or pressure test then what’s the point of learning or teaching it. Most schools don’t do that and instead give off a mcdojo vibe
@@MW-3002 well, krav is pretty good for keyboard warriors - the techniques are cunning ambushes, and can have some very ugly outcomes. You are only supposed to use those techniques as a last resort, and they are a gamble which might save your life... or might not.
Krav is ideal for keyboard warriors and inexperienced fighters. That is what it was designed for.
Defendu you really shouldn't "just have a go" at, and the sparring can put people in hospital as well.
🤣🤣🤣
Anything that ever came out of israel was shite
I remember my grandfather telling me that a fight shouldn't last any longer than three seconds. But then he was a WW2 SAS veteran so, to him, a fight ended when one of you was dead.
He’s right though. Most street fights is just a bunch of monkeying around without an actual ability or willingness to end it. For most It’s about the beat down now the win. My Sensei told me the same thing, if it takes you more than 3-30 seconds to finish a fight, you don’t know what you’re doing
@@SatorMoon I disagree, fights are shorter when no one knows what they are doing because they just wale power shots at each other with no strategy or patience. The more experienced the fighters the longer the fight becomes. Unless of course you have an incredibly experienced fighter vs some random joe, then yes it will be over quickly.
Your grandad was an absolute beast to be in the SAS. Those guys are made different
G-d bless your grandfather! That is something to be very proud of! Hero
Very wise
Me: Jocko, how do I defend myself?
Jocko: DO EVERYTHING
RUUUUUN
Just learn 2 martial arts one for grappling and the other for striking
This reminds me of Indiana Jones' duel with a sword-swinging man in the raiders of the lost ark
@@gospodinkenobi9903 Or the Aussie with the bigger knife when mugged in Manhattan....his name slipped my mind.
@@BobJones-gn2tr crocodile Dundee
The legend has it. Jocko traps the souls of his fallen enemies in his forearms.
Lol
Hahaha
"...The next thirty decades of my life..."
*Jocko is Wolverine confirmed*
I did both karate and jiu jitsu and in our karate dojo to get from brown to black belt we were required to learn jiu jitsu takedowns and submissions which was a huge benefit for me because when I became a brown belt in karate I was also a purple belt in jiu jitsu so everything we were being taught i already knew. But in my opinion it was the best practice that our sensei (who also was a police officer) implemented
Which style of karate you practiced
Karate's grappling is borrowed from the Judo (technically Jiu Jitsu) of the occupying samurai of Okinawa. They're nigh identical. Learning Judo or BJJ is like going more in-depth in karate's grappling.
My old Kenpo instructor... who started in his early 20's and is now in his 60's and a 10th degree black belt... always encouraged us to go learn some jujitsu or something similar and incorporate it into our Kenpo. His logic is he recognized that the one weakness of kenpo was a lack of ground game, and he believed it couldn't hurt us and only help us if only to get a different perspective.
My main art, my base is Muay Thai, which incorporates sparring, devastating strikes but also a lot of grappling which makes it really a really good choice and a perfect stand-alone complete martial art to invest in it, for using it -if ever needed in self-defense situations. But jujitsu can help us to complete our main art, whatever this is, and transform it to another level, as it fits perfectly everywhere and has no real form, it takes form depending on the situation, so it is a valuable tool to confront everything. 🙏
yea muay thai is really complete, just ask the burmese peasants who killed the 10000 muay thai fighters the king of siam sent to invade....
@@TheLateScottBaio The art of Muay Thai of "now" in comparison to "The Siam Kingdom" Era, is a completely different martial art after it has evolved so much by then, as I have covered this in my Documentary, Muay Thai - The Arts of MMA. As modern jiujitsu has nothing to do with samurai jiujutsu. But here you are talking about an invasion which is an armed conflict, which is another thing. Muay Thai or BJJ or etc is just only a tool in a multi-factor, highly tactic "game". During my service, I've realized that the best weapon is the "team", as a special forces' squad, moving as one, breathing as one, acting as one, the perfect combination and execution of the plan under pressure, and not action-movie jumps kicks and "cinematic" heroism. And there were guys less proficient in "martial arts" that could decapitate someone in seconds with a knife out of pure killer instinct. When it comes to war, sometimes it doesn't matter how good or badass you are, you and your whole squad, or the entire army loses and has casualties as in every conflict in human history. A "peasant" literally ended the Duchy of Burgundy in 1477 with a simple swing of his halberd... We must underestimate no one. Thank you.
I love MT and have spent plenty of time trining under a Kru, but you are not going to stop Wrestling takedowns unless you cross train.
@@seanreed9472 I agree. Definitely cross training is the key.
If I could pick only one then yes, MT has the edge. But boxers have much, much better hands and wrestlers have much, much better takedowns, defenses.
My MT Kru was always trying to change my hands (I came from a boxing and wrestling background) but in sparring my hands were much better than any of the pure MT guys.
I did Taekwondo as a kid then wrestling in high school, and now I'm doing boxing. Before I did wrestling, though, if someone got me in a headlock I was in trouble. You gotta know both for each situation.
Nothing beats distance and a firearm.
@@johnstephens2997 except for when your firearm jams and they close the distance. Gotta know it all man
That’s a good combination imo. How are you liking the boxing?
@@stuartglover2441 Modern guns don’t really jam if you’re not using shit ammo and shit mags.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 what guns do you use bro?
Boxing: the art with easiest learning curve; even a little training will go a long way, but it can be honed to a masterful level. Stance, striking, and defense.
Good for multiple attackers. Stick and move, run like hell.
No way, muay thai is much more effective. Far more variation, knees and elbows are also stronger than fists.
@@GhostRider-uk3xv He didn't say it wasn't he said boxing is easier to learn an highly effective. Which is all true and can remain true even with Muay Thai beinh better overall.
@@LanMandragon1720 yeah from my experience boxing is much easier to learn because you only have to worry about a couple variables, where as muay thai there are much more factors involved
@Zyan Pearsall this is definitely not true, they have really good defense and clinches and shit. Its not like muay thai users just stand there and get punched in the nose lol
I was jumped by two guys. Super confident in my bjj, I took him down after he sundayed me in the back of the ear. As I began to go to work, his buddy started pounding me in the back of the head which got me to let him go. Once I let him go, he delivered three shots to my face knocking me out. Bjj only works against 1 dude.. Always be aware of your surroundings 👍
Always thought this, sorry it happened to you but exactly what I expected from bjj on the street. The best thing IMO is learning stand-up space management and leg kicks.
Even if it was one guy, its a stupid streetfight. What are you going to do, snap his leg or arm? Slam him to the ground and break his back and possibly kill him? Just punch/poke an eye and run away.
This has always been my thinking. You need to know grappling but the very last place you WANT to be in a street fight is on the ground.
In England if you start rolling around on the ground his mates are going kick you in the head and stamp on you. Tarmac is too rough too roll around
Fake story, but ok.
I believe that when the person claimed to be a traditional karate practicer, he means that he practices something closer to the original Okinawa karate, which was based in self defense and included grappling and the use of weapons, opposed to the sportified version of karate which is widely practiced around the globe as a form of sports, competition and recreation.
I am a traditional karateka, trained in full contact Okinawan karate and I have to back what Jocko says. Thinking of stopping a grappler with striking only is pure fantasy.
Goodluck stopping a judo guy with striking, the moment you throw a punch and move on you’re already on the floor and hoping you’re not getting smacked
Oh Ya! Karate CHOP!
No in real street situation ...kungfu animal techniques are quite useful..they are very brutal and always aim for weak spots to kill the opponent
@@aankgupta Yes in a street fight the goal is to definitely commit a murder lmao
youre just probablt not that good at Karate mate. not many people are. its a dying art
My dad started me with judo at 5 . We started doing boxing and leg striking at 7 . When I went inton7th grade he decided to be assistant coach for a wrestling program so I started wrestling folk ,free style and greco that year . I got secound in state forfeiting 1st that first year dislocating my shoulder . I pretty much dominated until 10th grade when we moved to a no wrestling state . I started learning bjj when I was in the army . Defiantly my years of experience prior made thw transition very easy
Judo is very underrated for self defense in a street fight. BJJ is incredible and 1 on 1 you will absolutely annihilate someone trying to hurt you with no experience, but judo allows you to defensively throw someone HARD on very hard surfaces while not putting yourself on the ground (or risking yourself slamming to the ground) which in a street fight is very relevant. If it's in a street fight there's rocks, glass, metal, concrete, weapons, people kicking (potentially), animals, etc. that are all major problems.
That said, if you have spent time like jocko learning BJJ and spending time studying martial arts, probably 99.9% of the people you encounter that is not a war situation (drunk, criminals, just general jerks) you're going to destroy them lol.
Jocko: *thinking about the next 30 decades of his life*
Lol
So his childhood?
300 years?
Thanos
That would be 300 years. I think you meant 3 decades
Just find what you love!!!! If you enjoy the process, you’ll succeed. Of course, having two different arts combined is great! Boxing and Jiu-Jitsu for me)
"Do everything" love it! Let's go coach!
One of the many qualities I appreciate about Jocko, he's a realist.
Effectiveness is situational. Learn all you can, from whatever you can. I've used Karate to defend my wife in a multiple attackers scenario. (My JJ training wouldn't work.) I've also use my JJ to restrain an one-off attacker, where my Karate was less effective in controlling the threat. Don't get stuck in 'styles.' Stay mission minded.
I always stay mission minded when I raw dog chicks. The effectiveness is 100% guaranteed on achieving my objective.
I don't belive in karate. Muay thai is the way to go in my opinion
Facts.....each style has it's place. I don't know that there is a one style beats all.
@@byronfrescatore7276 Is it too late for me to train in bjj, wrestling and boxing? I feel like those three would be there most useful in a street fight situation. I’m 22 years old.
@@DannyBoy426 I’ll say it now if you’re getting into training for the specific reasoning being it’ll help in a street fight be careful that’s how I thought,being a trained fighter boosts your ego and if you’re looking for street fights as a trained fighter with a higher ego things can end very badly,keep this in mind
My 6 years of martial arts training had taught me, the best defense against grapple and strikes. "No be There"
Been doing traditional karate for 15 years, and I wrestled consistently for 3. I’ve found that in my striking when they get too close they panic where as I’m at home. You gotta train both boys. They hit the nail on the head here!
I still practice some of my wrestling to keep the rust off, and I use the throws in my karate sparring constantly. I also roll with my friend who does bjj
I was raised in the rural Appalachian Mountains during the 70s and 80s.
When I was growing up disputes were settled by fist fights. No one had access to martial arts training but what they did have access to was wrestling in high school. I can tell you that without a doubt the guys who were on the wrestling team for four years were not to be messed with. They would destroy guys who thought they were tough. It's just a fact that someone who is trained in grappling can hurt you.
Wrestling and grappling isn't everything there's so much more that goes into a fight, this is why I have an issue with talking to grapplers about martial arts I've been in martial arts for a very long time Muay Thai specifically and I have never a met a single wrestler jujitsu or judo practitioner that was humble these people seriously think that grappling is the end all be and that's all you need to know and that's the only thing that makes you dangerous it doesn't, it's fuckin annoying. There are numerous things and other disciplines and techniques and skill sets that can be utilized in fighting in taking somebody down not everything is wrestling.
Wrestlers good wrestlers seem to double leg me almost every time with no problem lol definitely important to get good double leg sprawls under hooks over hooks etc
My dad told me about fights where boxing club members fought against wrestlers and more often than not had no chance
@@WatWarrior22wrestling and grappling are everything if you can’t defend it. Nothing else matters when a guys on top of you punching you in the face.
Big issues with many self defence systems like Krav is that they bank on you facing someone who
a) isn’t anticipating your attack
b) doesn’t know how to fight
Go do martial sports and build your foundation of grappling and striking SKILLS, and develop physical CAPABILITIES. Then do Krav Maga and etc to add some spicy groin kicks to your toolbox. No point knowing groin kicks if something as simple as their stance offsets your entire game.
Yes, I agree. I just started learning unarmed combat. I am doing : Krav Maga + Muy Thai
"One answer, is not the answer" sounds like a quote from The Book of Five Rings. Either way, good advice right there.
LGZEE great book- more people should read it
Make sure you get a good translation. A lot has been lost....
The Dao De Ching. A way that can be followed is not a living way.
"One answer, is not the answer. You must know the way broadly and see it in all things"
good reminder. I must read it before I'll get to the podcast #100 on this book.
Muay Thai & Ju Jitsu together is deadly 💪🏾
Wing Chun beats Muay Thai sir.
@@TabooRevolution13 depends on how good each fighter is in their respective art. The rock/paper/scissors, this art beats that art thing is pure fantasy and only made by those with no real fighting experience.
@@TabooRevolution13nice joke
@@dusleratasoy7025 I argue Wing Chun has an advantage for bursting between spinning and twisting motions.
@@TabooRevolution13 wing chun is useless in real fights. If you watch too many Ip Man films you believe it will work but in real world it is not efficent at all
Every full contact martial art/combat sport is effective simply because you feel the pain,stress and experience situations adapted to real fighting. I prefer striking but grappling is equally realistic. The best thing though is to practice both striking and grappling if you have the time and money to do so.
It is all relative, dependent on the situation. My experience is this.......1 v 1 grappler vs striker (similar ability is respective art) = wrestler has advantage. 1 v 1 experienced striker or experienced grappler vs non trained individual = Doesn't matter, both effective. 1 vs multiple opponents= striker has advantage over grappler (better footwork to line up opponents and deal with one at a time, may not KO all of them but who says you need a KO to deter or neutralise someone. Loads of videos online of strikers KO'ing 3,4 even 5 opponents in a short space of time, never seen a grappler put multiple opponents to sleep within 10-15 seconds.
The distance management statement is very true, I am a mixed martial artist (karate wu-shu and silat) and I have found that the ability to maintain your ideal distance away from the opponent is crucially effective in a fight. Double legged takedowns are avoidable if you think fast enough to keep up with your reflexes.
Being able to manage distance is nice...but it is not always a luxury you will have.
Best is to not rule out the possibility that the fight will not always be on your terms.
Well said! 😎
I’ve listened to these for a year and just now actually WATCHED, and wow I did not expect echo to look like that. HUUUUUUGE
College football player at Hawaii
I was at work today and wanted to watch this video when I saw it in the feed. Was hoping it would show up again...
Echo looks next level solid in this one.
Pretty interesting. I have often heared that you should end a street fight quickly (maybe with a preventive strike) and that you should never go to the ground, because one idiot often doesn´t come alone, so while you put the "attacker" to the ground, another guy (maybe a friend of the attacker) kicks you to the head. Beside that I agree with what he said about Jiu Jutsu.
I was all state wrestler, i was decent, but I learned if u ever get into a fight with multiple attackers u really don’t wanna go to the ground so I started boxing which i did for a long time, i started BJJ about 8 years ago, i its very effective! U have to know the stand up, and the ground game in this day!!
I’ve done grappling my whole life. Did judo and bjj and am currently wrestling in hs. I did a little bit of karate and am trying to get into a few striking fundamentals lessons
Add some striking and you ill be well rounded.
@@seanreed9472 karate has striking
“One answer is not the answer” is a perfect statement, for an imperfect world. You final statements say it all. You don’t need my affirmation. I just mean to compliment your point.
The reality is that every martial art is a tool that has functionality and applications that work best in certain situations. A hammer, screw driver and knife will be able to be utilized in different ways but effectiveness comes down to the quality of the tool and knowledge of how to apply it. Having a comprehensive knowledge gives you broad spectrum of skills and how to apply them. This is how you find out your own style and become formless as Bruce Lee spoke of. A painting is not defined by a single color so why should your own form of self expression through martial arts. Let me know if you see it it different 🤝🏻👍🏻
I think what he meant by traditional karate is okinawan karate, where it is much more close range and includes quite a bit of grappling before they spread it to japan and simplified it to just striking in orfer to teach larger classes
Grappling is the best for one on one fighting no doubt, but in today's world it is essential to know either boxing or muy thai would help fighting multiple attackers
you are right you need grappling knowledge in your back pocket, but for actually protect yourself you should be circling while striking people who get close to you and looking for an opportunity to run not going to the ground deliberately lol
Spot on.
judo and wrestling can work against more than one attacker
@@youssefzayed32 how so?
@@ranfan1820 cuz a judo throw or trip doesn't take more than 10 seconds or maybe less and there's a video on RUclips of a wrestler fighting two guys and he beat the shit of them
For me the main objective in self defense is having a high takedown defense to try to stop someone smashing my bones and brain in hard concrete. So, wrestling/jiujitsu BUT being strong, explosive and muscular first by working out. Because this is the most devastating thing that commonly occurs in a fight. Sadly, weight matters, a lot.
Secondly, try to be hard so be knocked out and, again, smash my brain on hard concrete in my fall to the ground. So boxing is crucial aswell.
Absolutely. Taking down a legit judo BB is probably one of the hardest opponents to also IMO
You're right. A small man well trained in a martial art can defeat a big man -- if the big man isn't equally skilled in the same art.
for that reason i would choose wrestling in first place, u get jacked af and have all the things that u mentioned, then i would go for boxing and bjj, i even would say muay thai but not all the people have access to this, even wrestling and bjj is hard to find, for that reason in a lot of places boxing is the unique defense system for a lot of people
@@trujilloroldancarlosarturo4281 I finally found boxing and bjj literally side by side from each other but 100% agree just 6 months to a year of wrestling will make u wayyyy stronger and much harder to take down
@@Bawks_FEET and the thing that i dont like from bjj is pulling guard, i think that is most importante to know how to defend takedowns or throws and being in the dominant position, submission are dangerous too but i u have to fight, u have to fight
"It's hard to knock somebody out".... "It's hard to knock Jocko out"
I’ve never been knocked out but I’ve knocked a few out . my neck is strong and flexible. that’s why I kept that upload too...deleted almost all of the rest.
When Jocko was born they gave him his black belt.
I'm sure Jocko would appreciate your statement about how he was just handed everything to him when he was born and did not really work for anything.
@@MrTeko75 it's just a joke g don't get your panties twisted
Jockos black belt is actually made from his umbilical cord
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I’ve done the fighting and gone to the gyms, folk style, freestyle, Roman Greco, jiu jitsu and knowing how to throw a punch and some kicks for the stand up game are truly effective. Occasionally you still get rocked it is what it is, jiu jitsu beats wrestling all things equal but if I’m a better wrestler then you are at jiu jitsu wrestling wins, if we’re equal grapplers the one with the better standup game wins. There are plenty of freaks out there that can wreck your life with muy tai or whatever, but those guys know take down defense as well. My conclusion is (take it as you may, I’m a key board warrior after all) a grappling background is always key. This is from a 26 year old definitely out of shape fighter/ wrestler that got out of the game.
i was trained in judo, taekwondo, boxing and muay thai. Each martial art is unique to one another, so in my opinion it is not a good idea to compare every style and conclude which is the best. i think the main essence of martial arts is not about which style is the best, but rather what do martial arts does for a person. There are many positive things we can get from martial arts like having strong mind, body and spirit. So regardless of the style I think that any martial arts is useless if it makes a people an asshole instead of a better person.
Very well said.
Don I agree with you in attitude but certainly not belief since none of what you mention is Martial Art(s). Bruce Lee has everyone thinking they are an Martial Artists bc they practice self defense. There is only one Martial Art and Bruce Lee was banned from learning it. His whole complaint was that what he knew was not enough. (wing chun "Beautiful Springtime") You cannot say that about Martial Arts. The only thing I have heard anyone say when coming to Gung-fu is "they will never take anything else".
(I learned Gung-fu in East Cleveland Ohio 1st generation and before that Chinese Kenpo with the Stracy's and Shaolin with James Cook) afterwards coming to California; judo Roy Bushudo, aikido June Mateo, more king-fu My Jong longhorn w Peter Wong, Tai Chi Chuan (2 original forms of Kings and Jung) with rick Peterson, and can showed them all how it came from gung-fu)
And while karate training and kung-fu training will condition your body, its effect is not meant to be long lasting. And that is bc what Martial arts does is build Chi (rapidly) which comes from zen which is incorporated into the forms to do it coupled with weaponry training. (lotus sutra) Karate (barr none) and kung-fu cannot do this even if you practiced it 100 years. BTW us what happened in Shaolin originally before they discovered Gung-fu.
They practiced Chinese Boxing for 2300 years or more. But took 7 years to develop Gung-fu with Buddha's help but he never learned it just provided the text (3) and helped the monks getting healthy. As a rule the name of the art form tells you where it is from. Judo is a sport (considered in Japan) like taekwondo is in Korea. Muy tai actually descends out of tai boxing so neither of these are Martial Arts bc they do not produce chi.
The use of chi in Martial Arts is for breaking bones, maiming and taking life. This is why they do not condone it being shown. And yet you learn it you know it you show it. The idea is if you see Martial Arts it will kill you in battle. True Martial Arts from Central Shaolin (before it was Northern) is now Southern China PaQua kuntao style. There is no comparison!
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As an analytic person I like to separate terms rather than conflating all kinds of things into a single term. As such, the quality of a martial art should be defined by how much it increases your chances to defend yourself, period. Don't mix all kinds of criteria into it.
If you want a strong mind, body, spirit you can as well run or dance or meditate. If you want to get more flexible, you can just stretch or dance. That's not what separates a good from a bad MA because it doesn't have anything to do with MA. Apart from that it's usually not the martial art itself who makes an a-hole of a person but, if anything at all, the people you're training with.
I feel like Judo and the devastating throws it teaches are often overlooked.
Because people only think of falling on a mat instead of eating the sidewalk
judo is best full stop ! as someone in law enforcement i can tell you in court judo got you covered,,,esp on cctv if covered,,,you engage in struggle a throw/push is alot more easy on eye compared to say even one closed fist punch,plus nothing hits harder than concrete,
I think judo is pretty deadly but not necessarily effective, grabbing someone in a fight is not easy
@@masrurbule2868 Getting in a clinch with someone when you want to isn't too difficult.
@@masrurbule2868 almost every boxing match ends up in the cling. Actually ALL boxing matches. That's why the referee separates them. Now, that's the range where judo comes into play. Of course striking is important too. You need all to be a complete fighter boxing/muay thai + wrestling/judo /bjj
For me its 85% standing (mostly striking) and 15% grappling (not to become a grappler, but being proficient at protecting myself on the ground, sweeping, flipping and standing back up).
Correct old mate. A lot of what these people say is quite silly. JJ self defence. I don't think so.
Exactly, look at Chuck Liddell or Francis Ngannou. If you’re a good striker and have some basic takedown defence and grappling, you’re golden.
I did many years of Karate, and there was some basic ground fighting, submissions, etc...but nothing on the level of BJJ. Once upon a time, Karate did have grappling.
Did you ever think a lot of what you see elsewhere maybe came from traditional karate. Think about it.
The one you can use with real effect in actual combat.
Seen people make TKD work, BJJ, boxing, Thai boxing, Kyokushinkai, Savate, and others well.
Seen a lot of ppl use them badly too lol.
What about Krav?
@@cadecontent6107 never met a practitioner of it. I cant comment one way or another. Some ppl feel its quite practical. I dont know at all.
@@shkotayd9749 as inexperienced as I am in this department I’ve taken some Krav and from the people Ik that train it as well as teach it it seems to be doing something right Bc it’s a lot of veterans and bjj guys
@@cadecontent6107 Real world and full contact sport application reveals all, eventually. I havent seen KM arise in either.
it may be a different art for different application altogether, i dont know. But it seems relatively rare and esoteric.
@@aris.a2912 Most martial arts have segments that redesigned themselves for competition. I dont see KM having done so successfully in any respect. Even Sambo was designed to be primarily a grappling style used in real world combat. It transitioned readily into sport combat and even MMA for some fighters.
Still, again I am largely ignorant of KM. It could be all those things.
Gracie student through and through and I highly recommend to start there for self defense than move on and learn striking and hand gun basics etc!
Biggest downside I find with bjj/grappling in general is. If there is more than one person attacking you...the last place you want to be is on the floor.
I'll say it again. Ameri-Do-Te. Have Master Ken on the podcast.
I took up judo almost 15 years ago as a means to learn self-defence, after I got assaulted by two men. At the time, I was clinically obese and unhealthy. What I found through judo though was not self-defence, but good health, a new found passion for health, fitness and judo (as well as martial arts), and lifelong friends. I received my first degree blackbelt (Shodan) in judo last year, and have been coaching children, teenagers and adults for six years now.
I honestly do not know if judo can be effectively used for self-defence. I took up judo to learn self-defence, but in the last 15 years, I have never found myself in a situation of violence.
I do know that a lot of judo clubs claim that they offer "self-defence" as a selling point to their club, but the truth is, they often don't. Judo is usually taught as a sport, with rules, and they teach their techniques within the boundaries of the sport. If a judo club was to actually offer self-defence, I believe they should have a curriculum catered to self-defence, as well as independent training sessions in the week that are catered to self-defence.
I think judo is a good martial art, though. Judo is, like Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) and mixed martial arts (MMA), a competitive combat sport, so there is a lot of training that goes toward cardiovascular conditioning, as well as sparring (or in judo, 'randori', which means free practice). Grappling with another human-being who is trying to throw you, while you are trying to throw them, and neither one of you wants to be thrown, is quite challenging, whether it's tachi-waza (standing techniques) and/or ne-waza (groundwork). So, it's not quite 'real fighting' but I think it is a realistic application of grappling and wrestling with another human-being who is in a sense, trying to cause 'harm' to you (in a training environment, your training partner(s) won't or shouldn't be trying to 'hurt' you, but would be at least trying to be successful with their techniques against you).
I do believe judo offers some incredibly practical skills for self-defence, though. Skills such as ukemi (translating to 'receiving of body'), basically breakfalls, learning how to fall over without harm, and/or learning how to be taken to the ground and minimizing as much damage as possible. I also believe that judo's ne-waza is quite explosive, and could be handy to help someone learn how to escape a ground situation and return to standing (to run away, or something).
Admittingly, I should probably learn a proper striking art, like boxing, but I have tried to look into local boxing clubs and find that they generally operate on the same nights I am at judo, and I can't do that, because I am also a judo coach... but I guess in fairness, I have been lucky that these past 15 years, I have never been involved in a physical, violent confrontation.
Part of self-defence is, in my opinion, awareness. Things such as where not to go, locations of exit(s) and an escape route, obstacles toward an exit, people who might be able to help (security, police, friends), as well as people in general... paying attention to their body language, tone of voice, choice of dialog, distance between you and them, if they have friends nearby etc.
Really great and insightful comment, thanks for sharing
I used to think I was a bad-ass karate practitioner, until I went to my first Judo class...
Try kyokushin you I'll become a bad ass
I had the same experience at a Greco Roman wrestling school.
Yepp, same experience loll
@@khalil4835how many years u being practising bad-ass ?
I have done karate for some years when I tried to go to a grappling art and when I tried striking their groin or poke their eyes like they taught me in karate they said that it's not allowed, so in my opinion karate is much more bad ass
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My wife never pays any mind to what I’m watching… except when it’s Jocko. Then she’s suddenly interested 🤨
Can you blame her?
@williamflowers
Your point? LOL!
the best style for you, is the style that suits you best.
I'd like to thank Jocko and Rogan for inspiring to start my NO GI BJJ journey. I started this week!! Thanks!!!
Hey! Give us updates when possible. I am also planning to start the coming month!
@@BarrySwami10 You have to relax relax relax when you roll!! Don't muscle your way through the roll only during certain times
@@BarrySwami10 Stretch Stretch Stretch!!! Before and after! Man my biceps and traps were so tight the next day for trying to power my way through everything even though I thought I was being relaxed. But stretch your body often. The last class I tweeked my calf muscle idk how. So I have to take perhaps a week off. But we have to keep stretching and strengthening our bodies. I never did jits so I'm using different positions and muscles.
@@BarrySwami10 In class you go over the lesson for about an 45 and then roll we for 45 minutes (1 rounds of 5 minutes). Always say I'm a new white belt! I rolled with all shapes and sizes and just be careful with the big guys they are cool but so fuckin heavy! Watch out for wrestlers because they are rough af. Tell people hey I'm new and going through the motions. I rolled 4 to 5x per class. I already did 4 classes.
@@BarrySwami10 I've got my first rear naked choke on a blue belt on my second class. And the other day another rear naked choke and a triangle a brand new guy trying the class. Other then that I keep getting tapped out and often smashed. It's awesome though!!! My ego has a reality check but I'm also I had the balls to join and keep goin. At 41 I think I would recommend going once a week and work your way up, to prevent injuries. It's a marathon not a sprint. It's insane how skilled and strong some of these guys are and I'm no slouch. I love it. This my real experience. To be continued......
I train Brazilian jujitsu under a Relson Gracies school. First thing I learned was distance management and how to deal with taking someone to the ground and not getting hit. Nowadays in BJJ schools they don’t teach any of that is just pure rolling with no strikes. It is such a disservice when they do that
Not to piss on your bonfire, but in a street fight..your gonna get hit on the way in,if your grappling.
@@seanbailey8545 Yep...
As a beginner Muay Thai practitioner who watched some of the similar videos, I understood that knowing striking martial art is like bringing a sword/axe/mace on a battlefield, and knowing wrestling martial art is like bringing a shield.
A mighty sword can do a lot of damage to an enemy, but you better have a mighty shield in addition to your sword.
@exiledmonastic4650 thanks!
3:09 “it’s hard to knock somebody out.
Mike Tyson: “Hold my beer you thilly gooth.”
Apparently he forgot the fact that boxers are using 12-14 ounces gloves.
@5:31 “we’re worried about the next 42 seconds of a fight that’s about to happen, not the next three decades of my life where you can see me break down”
Jocko summed it up there in terms of the traditional martial arts & MMA competition training methodology and mindset; which is why he didn’t think much about football players getting bashed in the head constantly and potentially get CTE.
The other major difference between traditional martial arts & mma (in the context of competing) is that traditional martial arts to their credit also have an emphasis on long term health & longevity (even if there is varying degree of scientific validity) where as mma competition fighters training only concerns themselves with the immediate upcoming fight so which is why it is more common to see traditional martial artist who even in their old age still able to perform where as most of the first generation MMA fighters like the OG football players before them all suffer from traumatic brain injury and are wheelchair ridden or worse.
Actually, forget MMA, even in boxing (which is a major fight style MMA fighters love to mix into their MMA), Muhammed Ali towards the latter end of his life wasn’t entirely there.
Been doing Muay Thai for awhile and Im looking at learning some grappling (besides the muay thai clinch that is). Im considering Judo
I chose the wrestling route to understand grappling our world is very different from there’s
@RumiNation FOR SURE
Judo with wrestling or bjj will make you a monster
All I can picture is seeing Jocko on the line in football, waiting for the snap. Staring him down face-to-face, realizing the whole plan was to throw punches. You’ve got a few feet and a few punches then you’re on the ground anyway. What if you get nervous/intimidated last moment? What if he’s already within striking distance? Shorter, taller, etc.? Put it into practice, and test your plan! Sure going full speed with karate kicks will wear down someone in practice, and cause injuries, but don’t let it be the only plan or rely on it being 100% successful, 100% of the time.
Wasn’t Randy Couture knocked out with one kick by Shotokan karateka Lyoto Machida?
Learning how to fall safely is underrated
He says... Learn how to shoot a gun... gold.
This is the most balanced and fair response form a BJJ practitioner I’ve ever seen. It’s glorious.
I sense sarcasm
@@tonypaella Not at all. Having been in martial arts/combatives for 15 years at times some styles and systems fall victim to myopic views and cultism. Ultimately, its the indian and not the arrow so as people mature in their training they find what does and doesn't work for them. It's refreshing to have someone who loves one system, but is supportive and open to others choosing their own path. Too much of martial arts and combat is a dick measuring contest.
@@tonypaella @10.45 onwards is what got my respect.
@@kaioken1110 yeah that part was good. But more often than not i feel like he's putting BJJ on a pedestal, and i think he's the opposite of impartial. I disagree with him on a lot of things, like it being hard to knock someone out. Oftentimes he sounds like BJJ is the be all end all, like he's selling something. That's why I thought you were being sarcastic because i find him the opposite of being balanced.
@@tonypaella I agree that everyone puts BJJ on a pedestal. That being said he literally is the least cultish and that's saying something haha. 99% of grapplers would never concede to cross train.
I train BBJ/Grappling along with other things, so I get its merit as an addition to an arsenal.
That being said BJJ is the martial arts equivalent of Crossfit or Sig Sauer. Everyone drinks the kool aid and it's off-putting.
Jocko- how do you know how many hits a brain can tolerate before real damage is done? Thank you for your service.
Pulling basic techniques from sticking and grappling is good to know. Never know if you’ll be standing up or on the ground.
Clickbangpow is my favorite martial art
I’m glad Jocko is not hating on Krav. He understands there is a place for it and it’s uses.
It is not about the martial art, it is about the martial artist.
Absolutely great fukn video...keep up the great work
I do jitsu and Krav Maga great combo
Does Krav Maga work?
@@prometheus6853 no
@@prometheus6853
But bjj definitely works
@@prometheus6853 yes Krav works well. It's all the moves that you can't use in MMA. Knowing both is a deadly combo.
@ 03:00 depends where u hit the person , at football they don't get hit hundred of times in the chin for example . Chin which is a very sensitive point for everyone , doesn't matter how big or about training !
Learning martial arts are pressure points that you get to know , and if those are hit is game over for anyone !
Boxing, Muay Thai, Jujitsu, judo, taekwondo and Krav Maga. Get really good at those and combine them, and you'll be almost unstoppable!!!
You don't need most of those, i would say you need boxing and wrestling to dominate everything, and taekwondo too
if you spread yourself to much you don't get good at any, focus on the ones with the best base
Only kickboxing.
@@TheoneD11 judo and jujitsu are important
Capoeira
Follow up question. Where do you see CQD fitting in and is it effective when matched against other martial arts?
Most effective: the one you're best at.
Indeed
Running !!!
Not always, for example Russian slap fighting
Exactly his point at the end, train for it all.
I train in h2h the most of any one thing and take all my training seriously. But I take any practical weapons training most seriously, namely defensively against knives, and most serious at the top of it all ANYTHING firearms related. Regardless of owning/having access to the actual firearms or not.
I would say boxing and any traditional grappling martial art (bjj, judo, wrestling)
You have to know/learn some kicking - kickboxing, muay thai, karate
is akido, the street defense style a good combo with Juijistu?
As a Kid I asked my father who would win in a fight a boxer or ju jitsu grappler ?
He said plain and simple : The better fighter
Great interview
Masvidal vs Askren is one UFC example.
Any thoughts on combat Sambo? like Khabib, Fedor...etc.
Jockodofujutsu is the most effective martial
AGREED
Makes sense
I believe in what ever works in a certain situation because no encounter is the same you have to be able to flow not be stuck thinking about what might work,because training in one style will hold your potential back,situational awareness ,avoidance if possible if not it's on like donkey kong 👍
Im a Black Belt jiu Jitsu and karate. Ive done some intense years of kick boxing... And I think the best martial art is a combination of striking and ground game. Toi should be good standing and good on the ground too
Short-sighted perspective. I served in Recon. Trained in whats now known as MMA since I was 5. I love BJJ. Rolling is a lot like Chi Sao. I like the UFC especially 1&2. Jocko, wake up to the fact that BJJ doesn't actively guard against punches on the ground (excluding combat BJJ). Most BJJ fighters are totally obvious to how exposed they are to strikes while rolling. A huge amount of situations in BJJ are absolutely a death sentence in a real fight. Even UFC style MMA isn't that impressive considering there is over 27 rules on attacks you cant perform in the octagon. You fight as you train? Yes, I do believe I've heard that somewhere. And all of those 27 violations are things you should be doing as a primary in a real time situation. They make the difference between who lives and who dies. Jocko, how about grappling in a bar? Or on the streets when your head hits a pole or a curb? Its over, nice going BJJ. Also, when in real life are you fighting against just one person? Oh, good idea... lets roll on the ground while his buddies just honorably watch and let two men battle it out. In combat you stay away from grappling. Period! A lot of what you are saying is great for the ring but not great for a world without tap out’s and ref’s. The ring is not combat and you know better, Team Guy. You are so in love with BJJ and the ring that you have lost sight of reality. War doesn't happen on a nice mat or ring. BJJ is great... but its a sport. A sport with limitations. Those limitations in a very simple way will be used against you. Keep that in mind.
I agree just about, except can the striker have good takedown defence as well even if he's not good once on the ground becuase if you know the guys gonna shoot on you it can be an advantage to be ready and quick to adjust, pivot etc. On avarage it does seem without a rounded game the grappler will have an advantage as long as he knows how to protect his head forehead and top you can take, temple, jaw and ear etc you may not have all your marbles with you once you do close the distance and even a 1 dimensional fighter may out wrestle you if you've got shaken heavily on the way in. I guess the averages favour the ground guy but its very dependent on individuals calibre
It depends on the situation, and your capabilities. I think most people, both trained and untrained, can throw a decent jab and cross. But take kicking for example. Kicking is out of the question if you aren't training for them. Maybe it's just me, but kicking always felt super unnatural to me. But if you are good at kicking, you might as well use it. Know what you're good at, and what you're bad at. As someone who has always been fascinated by martial arts, I can't say I've trained for self-defense, since I do it for fun. But I think that's the majority of the Martial arts community. It's either for fun, of for sport and competition. Actual self-defense training should probably consist of learning how to not be at the wrong place at the wrong time, and be relatively street smart.
My own sensei in karate brought in a close friend of his who was a BJJ instructor to teach BJJ classes twice a week because he said it was the most effective martial art for self-defense, especially for us young women. And as a young woman who has used BJJ to get out of a chokehold put on me by a guy, I'm always thankful for being introduced to martial arts and by extension, BJJ. It legitimately saved my life.
oh my - what happened? Guy in a subway thing or an ex?
Hahaha so nosy
Bjj the best? One of for sure. I think judo is more but to each his own
@@lennarthomas yeah you definitely don’t want to be on the ground in a self defense situation where multiple people are trying to attack you
@@lennarthomas So like, no gi Judo you mean? That's what gets me there, it's mostly based on the gi holds and throws it seems
I feel like wresting is the most important because generally the person with the better wresting determines where the fight takes place and helps you control and incompasitate a person on the ground
“99% of the time it’s double leg take down. Sorry.” LOL
@Italo-Celtic yessir.
I just thought it was funny how confidently he said it...which made me LOL. I’m not going to test this against Jocko. Nah, I’m good. Lol
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Sure, anything will be very effective if your opponent sits there and does nothing. Unfortunately, that's not how it works.
Grapplers ubiquitously dominated the early MMA scene, back when there were definitive Grappler vs Striker matches.
It turns out that, once the grappler gets a hold of the striker, the grappler is extremely favored to win, and this is how the matchup played out the majority of the time. It's not so easy to immediately incapacitate someone with strikes if they are using a modicum of defense. Jocko's description of the early UFC is completely correct.
Sorry man, I know you don't like to hear it, but he's right on this one.
Everybody has a plan until they get the double leg takedown.
The grappler usually beats the striker, it is harder to place damaging strikes than to take someone down
well rounded in my opinion . my strength and aggression and my punch kept me from getting bullied but also got me in trouble before. I’m missing practicing with some tough guys right now . and I couldn’t practice everyday because unlike now I was working the loading dock forty a week. so I’m just constantly trying to do something even if I’m posting crazy comments . haha
In terms of self defence on the streets boxing is definitely the most versatile and applicable in most situations. And I've done some Jiu Jitsu.
i would say wrestling/bjj or muay thai
From my very limited experience (12 street fights in 30 years, being attacked twice, 2 cumulative years of JKD and Krav-Maga, and currently 70 hours in Gracie Jiu-jitsu along with tons of research) grappling beats striking 9 of 10 times. For a 1 on 1 fight(not talking about organized cage fighting/mma) Gracie Jiu-jitsu is one of, if not the best, you can take. Also, be in shape, cardio, and lift weights. The best form of self defense is awareness and be an imposing target, u will be less likely to be attacked.
You really think Gracie BJJ is one of the best? The reason I ask this is that I see so many BJJ guys resort to guard pulling and trying play a guard game in general. I have a lot of respect for BJJ so please don't think that I am attacking it. But so many sport BJJ folks that I see have no idea how to cover their head or defend against strikes. In addition I'm not sure that looking at MMA fights is the best gauge of the grappler vs striker discussion. Jocko mentioned double legs in the video. My question is how easy is that to pull off on pavement or a sidewalk or in a nightclub? Don't get me wrong, a college level wrestler is an awesome athlete and I've seen some real killers at BJJ gyms. But the guard pullers and players who always want to start from guard are not preparing themselves in my humble opinion.
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Jocko is correct in that it is hard to knock someone out with a hit to the head. Professional boxers that have demonstrated the ability to knock an opponent out with one well landed punch, like Mike Tyson or Thomas Hearns to name a couple, is considered a high achievement, a highly developed skill in professional boxing. That is why they are referred to as “knockout artists”. Also their ability is so highly developed that they can not only choose their timing for a knockout but they land the knockout punch right where it will do the most damage with the intended results, and if you watch carefully you’ll see that most knockout punches land in the face or on the jaw or square on the chin. Hooks to the temple can achieve dramatic knockouts. But if you watch in professional boxing, and lets admit that professional boxers are quite possibly the most effective punchers, many boxers receive very hard punches to the head (cranium) and continue to fight. As Tyson said many times “Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face.” Notice he didn’t say head.