It’s utter muck. Tippy tappy I won’t hit you if you promise not to take me down. Dude has no right `representing’ Jiu Jitsu with a purple belt and the other clown is everything that is wrong about modern karate
@@jemorasmussen1202 well then stop saying one art versus the other and talking how certain arts are losing their effectiveness. I’ve trained both extensively and neither of these guys is adopting a `fighting’ strategy that is reflective of the core principles of their arts. If they’re going to make big claims and put themselves forward as experts then I would expect proper expert knowledge and experience, not a no stripe purple belt who is training 6 years at most and a Karateka who, although training since birth, refuses to adapt and modernise and has lost every MMA fight he has been in. And that is the essence of Bullshido and the very reason UFC 1 was so revolutionary back in the day, it weeded out this type of nonsense. But my generation know that, unfortunately younger kids are listening to these types again.
I think most sane adults see Jesse's videos as appreciations of BJJ with a clickbait title to get you in the door. He doesn't have any problem with BJJ or JJ that I can tell. Good banter though.
Jesse is a dork I can’t imagine anyone unironically being his fan. The dude is a trash fighter who cosplays as a martial artist. Can’t stand these dweeb karate types
I think BJJ is a lot of fun. It's a great way to exercise and compete without getting punch in the face. That appeals to a lot of people, myself included.
Of course Silat doesn't punch much to the face. They prefer body shots say a shovel hook to the lower ribs, extended knuckle strikes to the throat etc. Kill shots in other words and they work well against boxing which has devolved from it's effective bare knuckle days to todays glove in face. Man, even Tyson broke his hand hitting someone's head in a street fight. In the ring they wrap their hands before even putting on their gloves. Said gloves "enlarge" the hands so much you can block punches in a way that would be useless without gloves in the street!
Its not that it isn't fun its that it isn't applicable to self-defense. BJJ will get you killed in the street. Sure if you want to use BJJ to lose weight and make friends, that's fine. But if you go to the ground in a street fight, you're going to have a bunch of dudes kick you in the head or worse. The philosophy that every fight goes to the ground might be true but the fights START with both combatants standing. The dojo/training gym is not the same place as the streets. The dojo has rules and is run by civilized well meaning people. The streets are full of savages that will kill you for the last $5 in your pocket. For that SIMPLE reason, I would ask anyone that trains in BJJ to take a look at boxing, karate, or traditional Ju-Jitsu. Round out your ground game and your grappling with locks, strikes, and throws like a real martial artist so you can be prepared when you step out your front door. The mindset of the martial artist is the mindset of the warrior. Always armed and prepared for combat but not seeking conflict. Remember that martial arts are first and foremost arts of war. They are there to maim and kill your opponent. Even the Marines get some training in jujitsu's powerful wrist and arm locks that can be pulled off from a standing position. Why don't the Marines learn BJJ?
Love to see two masters sparring for fun and enrichment of each other, not just senseless violence or going all in to prove who's better. Just a healthy exchange that makes me want to train harder
I’m glad you see this! Some people in the comments have a very different impression of this video, and it’s kinda strange. Just having a good time with a fellow martial artist! I’m glad it makes you wanna train. Thanks for watching 🙏
I dont usually comment videos.. but this one IS really pleasent to watch. Love the message of mutual respect, sadly nowadays there is a lot of trashtalking going on the martial arts community. Also I feel we should back at the self defense aspect and not only sport..
This was an excellent video. I'm an old bloke now but have been lucky to train under a true master. Because of this I believe I can recognise that Jesse is a true master in my opinion and he always approaches his videos in an interesting and intelligent way. This whole thing was very edifying. Well done all!
@@peterlin4641 true i guess most street fights would occur... on a street... but still its not like bjj isnt effective on hard ground, he probably just meant its less effective cus u have to hold back more on a hard surface to avoid injury if it was a street fight u can do a lot more damage to your opponent on a hard surface with wrestling and leverages so it might even be more effective if your talking about beating the opponent with no mercy
@@pneumonical my son was NYPD and he's absolutely convinced it's useless. It turns out the 2 moves he learned in the academy and 2 Judo moves he learned from his FTO is all u need . I always dismissed Judo but apparently I was wrong
This is why wrestling is super important. Coming from a purple belt and former wrestler myself. Granted you guys weren’t going 100% but being on bottom can only truly work in your favour in pure submission grappling.
@@Ckou95 nine of these were from a supine guard. At least 3 others were were back takes/finishes from the supine position. This isn’t rare. It’s a huge part of the game. ruclips.net/video/HALf3esHQJ0/видео.htmlsi=PMmjJDS-nKjxmoy6
Hey Joe, appreciate you brother! It means a lot, and I appreciate the positivity with your comment and Super Thanks. Motivates me to make more videos -- hope to make some more good ones for ya soon!
Great video. These crossover videos are so good for martial arts in general to illustrate that anyone who shows determination and commitment to any form of martial art is worthy of respect and effectiveness is more dependant on the individual than their 'style'.
As a BJJ dude, I know Jesse has a genuine respect for it You need to look no further than his brother having a really good submission game. I love the clickbait titles. I fully support it because the Jiu-Jitsu community takes themself to seriously a lot of the times
Karate often gets disrespected by modern stylists, but don’t underestimate it. Guys like Jesse are especially good at showing why karate should be seriously respected.
This has been by far the most enjoyable video I’ve watched and listened to Jesse. I have subscribed to him for a couple of years now, and have the utmost respect for him. He is a wise teacher.
Thanks, guys! This was a great video. Great discussion, and it's exactly the type of discourse the martial arts community needs. I did taekwondo as a kid, mma, in my teens, now I train judo. Mix it up, guys.
This was incredible, honestly. Like, that chat at the end where they discussed the philosophy of “Climbing the mountains” of each martial art, and the fresh perspective it so consistently brings, it reminded me of the love and passion I truly felt for martial arts growing up. It makes me want to get back into this stuff all the more, you two are doing the Lord’s work. Keep it up 🙏 Brilliant vid.
4:25 "Jesse is a lot bigger than he looks in his videos". Yeah, I feel like part of it is due to his humbleness/nice-guy attitude; he doesn't let you realize how much of a threat he is until it's too late, and even then he'll treat you nicely. Maybe he really should have done more of that ninja training with the French guy, there's some potential there. lol
I think it's a combination of his nice guy attitude and the fact that his gi is very loose. His gi definitely makes him look smaller than he is. I didn't realize size until I saw some of his kickboxing and MMA stuff.
That was pretty fun. Every time someone does 1 of these "style vs" vids they bring ego in....nice to see you guys just being real and having fun. Great vid!
Jesse in his own videos: Just a lovely karate nerd who likes to spread his knowledge with others. Jesse in other martial arts creators video: THE F FINAL BOSS OF KARATE
@@diddlenfiddle7311 in a real fight size is a bigger factor. The more rules you have and the more sport-like the fight is, the higher chances the small guy has to win
It’s videos like this that remind me why I love MMA so much. It’s beautiful because it shows you all sorts of different cultures and martial arts types, prepares you for a whole plethora of different situations, and just like any other martial arts, it’s great exercise. What’s great though is like obviously, take someone who does MMA to a karate tournament or a BJJ tournament, and they’ll do alright, probably not as good as people trained in those specific arts, but it’s great to have a decent understanding of many situations, as street fighting tends to find. God, I love martial arts.
Great video. I believe that if more martial artists, and especially karateka, would simply engage in friendly, safe sparring with minimal rules where practitioners are free to spar at all ranges (stand up, clinch, and ground), we would see far more mutual respect and far fewer petty arguments about if or why a certain style is effective. A lot of the small points that people argue about are found to be rather insignificant when people actually just spar (friendly and safe, not a fight) and don't artificially dictate at what ranges the engagement occurs.
classic example of an incomplete grappler, sit to guard and play footsie, it might win him comps but when it comes to it its a highly ineffective style for fighting
Idk when that turned into BJJ. The top principle of BJJ is position before submission. Guard is supposed to be an option, but not a plan. BJJ has changed
@@joshbeambjjlol i appreciate the humility. I’m not familiar with your channel, but it appears you do not have wrestling experience is this correct? I bet if you did 6-12 months of wrestling classes once or twice a week this experience would’ve been totally different! You would’ve taken him down way easier size disadvantage or no. Just go slow with it though. I am a BJJ coach and I wrestled in high school. When guys come in fresh from HS wrestling the intensity is just too high for me. I’d have to build back up to wrestling condition but I can still take them down, and most importantly hold them there the rest of the round. I would also assume Jesse’s TDD is decent because of his brother shooting on him.
Huge respect to Josh. I’m thinking he probably took some stick from BJJ colleagues, but he is super humble and this is a huge part of martial arts. Great fun video by two great guys. More power to you.
This was a great interaction, conversation, and video. I hope that you both decide to do more videos together when you get the opportunity. Very best to you both!
I’ve been doing bjj for three years now, I watched the ultimate self defense championship with my coach and we had a discussion luckily my coach doesn’t engage in propaganda. His exact words were “for street self defense a good 1,2 and high cover and some basic Greco wrestling are all you’ll ever need”
Not enough for street defense. You have to deal with low kicks, joint breaks, mauling, leg takedowns (Greco wrestling doesn't teach them). cupped palm strikes to ears etc. There is a reason said tactics are part of military hand to hand combat!
@@robertmallory1877 Does the common guy on the streets do low kicks, joint breaks, mauling, or leg takedowns? Usually, when the extent of their martial arts knowledge is that they know they should make a fist, they usually only haymakers. Though I've seen bigger guys do powerbombs when they have the opportunity to.
I like the "mountain" description at the end. I like to think that mostly (if not all) martial arts are situational. In a real fight I don't think a SINGLE martial art would be the most effective. Throwing powerful kicks might be good if you manage to keep some distance but what happens if you get knocked down? Maybe a punch to the head or a kick in the leg might knock your balance off, then what do you do next? This is the part where I think BJJ would be most useful... or maybe if you're trying to avoid a direct fight you might do some acrobatics and use some capoeira moves. Idk man, I feel like every martial art is both useful and useless at the same time. It all depends on the situation (place, time, weather, size of opponent etc)
Dude! Jesse is an amazing collaborator. And you did well Josh! I enjoyed that you went with each other's ideas and welcoming each other and making each other laugh. I laughed. Great job guys 😁
Jesse is so humble yet very talented. He has a quest for knowledge and a desire to share, he epitomises the role of sensei . Oss jesse san, arigatou gozaimasu.
Awesome video as usual… every style has its place and every place has its own style so awesome that you guys can see either side of the coin for your systems and styles and ways of fighting. Been a stand-up striker my 37 years in Martial Arts BJ does have its place along with Karate taekwondo and all the other stand-up styles of striking Okinawa will always be the birthplace of Karate as I am A isshyinryu stylist now and so awesome that you bring up the fact that there’s a sport and a traditional style and we have to recognize the difference between the both keep putting out the awesome videos. Thank you sensei Jessie
Encamp went to the Gracie's in California and learned that Gracie jujitsu is still self defense based and focuses on defending against strikes. It's part of core curriculum and they often put on gloves during rolls to remind practitioners that one always must be aware of strikes.
First spar round and we see the common trait of BJJ practitioners: A bunch of excuses. Good video though, and I'm happy to see you post it despite the ups and downs.
The second round, where he states: “I guess the result of this one is inconclusive”, that’s disingenuous. He’d been punched in the face many, many times at this point. In a real fight, with no gloves, and real striking intent, his face would have been turned into pulp by this point.
I was #1 ranked M1 blue belt in the world in IBJJF in both feather and lightweight for 2023-2024 with over 70 tournaments in 2 years, including 2nd at Master Worlds, and multiple first place wins at the Master International tournaments in Europe and North America. Most recently in 2024, I was lightweight winner at the IBJJF Asia Championship in Japan. I was promoted a few months ago to purple belt by Greg Sirico of Odyssey Jiu Jitsu and also just recently won IBJJF Sacramento at purple belt middleweight.
but can’t take down a karateka? What does blue belt mean to you? To the old heads and some new masters blue means your BJJ vs non BJJ will win in the most safe and efficient way possible. No disrespect Josh you’d roll me like sushi but dude you got seriously handled in the first 2 rounds.
A couple takeaways for me: 1. Jesse is pretty damn good! His striking is great. He's definitely not your average karate guy. 2. When are we going to admit he's also a BJJ guy? He may not quite be blue belt level, but he's definitely high white belt level. Enough to beat a trial class guy for sure. And he's officially competed and won. 3. A big reason BJJ doesn't seem as dominant today has nothing to do with its effectiveness or "it's becoming too sport focused." It's that almost everyone that trains now knows exactly what to expect and how to defend against a lot of it. 4. Also, other arts have learned another important lesson from the early days of NHB, and that is that in order to be a good fighter you have to train like a fighter (not a martial artist). What I mean is, training conditioning, "alive" drilling, lots of sparring, and at least occasional competition (even for the hobbyist). Jesse clearly does all that in addition to his more traditional training. He also crosstrains a bunch. 5. But if you don't do any of that and think you'll "just stand up" or easily knock someone out before they can clinch, 90% of the time that fight will still go exactly like one of the old Gracie challenge fights. 😏
Really interesting to here about the Okinawan-Chinese connection towards ground fighting as nowadays most Chinese ground fighting martial arts point only to "dog style". Could be mistaken but did Jesse refer to this Chinese ground fighting style as ShíShù (or ShíJitsu) [ 实术 ]? I'd be really interested in knowing more as I'm trying to investigate on Chinese ground fighting! @KARATEbyJesse
There is no perfect martial art. An open mind and mutual respect for all true martial arts is what I think is the core of a true martial art practioner. Thanks for a great video and greetings from Sweden!
There’s no one I’d rather get dojo stormed by! 🙏 Thanks for visiting Josh and keep up the great work! 🔥
Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee?
Big fan of you Jesse! You're very different from other Martial Arts RUclipsrs!
Master Ken would raise an eyebrow. I would like to point that you got kicked in the groin too🍒
I all ways though that you were Danish not Swedish.
Rate your experience of getting dojo stormed by him
"How did you know i was coming?"
"You posted it online" 😭 lol 😂
Jesse in his own videos: 🥰
Jesse in someone else's videos: 👺
lol
For views
Master Ken has taught him well
Jesse plays the "fool" in a way lots of the time, but that boy legit lol
😂🎉
This has to be the most welcoming dojo storms in the history of bullshido. Thanks to the both of you for being open and entertaining
It’s utter muck. Tippy tappy I won’t hit you if you promise not to take me down. Dude has no right `representing’ Jiu Jitsu with a purple belt and the other clown is everything that is wrong about modern karate
@@Patrick-sheen had a bad day man? of course they wont go all in, they're not trying to harm each other :)
@@jemorasmussen1202 well then stop saying one art versus the other and talking how certain arts are losing their effectiveness. I’ve trained both extensively and neither of these guys is adopting a `fighting’ strategy that is reflective of the core principles of their arts. If they’re going to make big claims and put themselves forward as experts then I would expect proper expert knowledge and experience, not a no stripe purple belt who is training 6 years at most and a Karateka who, although training since birth, refuses to adapt and modernise and has lost every MMA fight he has been in. And that is the essence of Bullshido and the very reason UFC 1 was so revolutionary back in the day, it weeded out this type of nonsense. But my generation know that, unfortunately younger kids are listening to these types again.
I think most sane adults see Jesse's videos as appreciations of BJJ with a clickbait title to get you in the door. He doesn't have any problem with BJJ or JJ that I can tell.
Good banter though.
yeah I think you're totally right! Thanks for watching!
Yeah they discussed that towards the end of the video
Jesse is a dork I can’t imagine anyone unironically being his fan. The dude is a trash fighter who cosplays as a martial artist. Can’t stand these dweeb karate types
I think most adults should look down on gimmicky things like making clickbait titles
Shhh! 😉
I think BJJ is a lot of fun. It's a great way to exercise and compete without getting punch in the face. That appeals to a lot of people, myself included.
Of course Silat doesn't punch much to the face. They prefer body shots say a shovel hook to the lower ribs, extended knuckle strikes to the throat etc. Kill shots in other words and they work well against boxing which has devolved from it's effective bare knuckle days to todays glove in face. Man, even Tyson broke his hand hitting someone's head in a street fight. In the ring they wrap their hands before even putting on their gloves. Said gloves "enlarge" the hands so much you can block punches in a way that would be useless without gloves in the street!
Its not that it isn't fun its that it isn't applicable to self-defense. BJJ will get you killed in the street.
Sure if you want to use BJJ to lose weight and make friends, that's fine. But if you go to the ground in a street fight, you're going to have a bunch of dudes kick you in the head or worse. The philosophy that every fight goes to the ground might be true but the fights START with both combatants standing. The dojo/training gym is not the same place as the streets. The dojo has rules and is run by civilized well meaning people. The streets are full of savages that will kill you for the last $5 in your pocket.
For that SIMPLE reason, I would ask anyone that trains in BJJ to take a look at boxing, karate, or traditional Ju-Jitsu. Round out your ground game and your grappling with locks, strikes, and throws like a real martial artist so you can be prepared when you step out your front door.
The mindset of the martial artist is the mindset of the warrior. Always armed and prepared for combat but not seeking conflict. Remember that martial arts are first and foremost arts of war. They are there to maim and kill your opponent. Even the Marines get some training in jujitsu's powerful wrist and arm locks that can be pulled off from a standing position. Why don't the Marines learn BJJ?
Good point . There is only so much brain damage a person can take
Mediocre bjj black belt here: I do appreciate folks criticizing some of the bjj marketing. It is a bit over the top.
Would judo be better to learn instead of bjj if self defense is your focus
@@Canecorso14 depends. I always thought the judo goshin jutsu kata was a little silly, but they do throw hard.
@@CervusGreen been doing bjj for 3 months thinking of switching to judo bjj doesn’t seem that good for self defense from what I have seen
@@Canecorso14 they both have their strengths and weaknesses. The best martial art for you is the one you can enjoy and stick with.
@@Canecorso14 Train in both. That what im going to do. I have a striking background as well
As a karate practitioner ive appreciated going outside of my base.
Thank you Jesse for hosting josh.
Josh, you earned a sub. Respect.
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching
"no guard pullers welcome" that got me rollin lmfao jesse's so funny
I about fell out at “butt hurt butt scooters” 💀
Jesse is a National treasure in Sweden & a incredibly humble human being 🙏
I love Oliver gaming the system against his brother
Hahaha! Same 😂
There's no way he's tanking clean strikes to the body and head for a minute straight to "tire him out." 😄 Great video though!
@@joshbeambjjwhat wood u do if someone just break your nose in one second
@@Sgt.Kilrain yeah that was the best part. You could see he wanted to give Jiu Jitsu its time to shine
Brothers WILL raise Cain if they are Abel. It's been going on a looooong time!
Love to see two masters sparring for fun and enrichment of each other, not just senseless violence or going all in to prove who's better. Just a healthy exchange that makes me want to train harder
I’m glad you see this! Some people in the comments have a very different impression of this video, and it’s kinda strange. Just having a good time with a fellow martial artist! I’m glad it makes you wanna train. Thanks for watching 🙏
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@@joshbeambjj I thought it was very enjoyable and both you guys are absolute gentleman and legends. Great video Josh
I dont usually comment videos.. but this one IS really pleasent to watch. Love the message of mutual respect, sadly nowadays there is a lot of trashtalking going on the martial arts community. Also I feel we should back at the self defense aspect and not only sport..
This was an excellent video. I'm an old bloke now but have been lucky to train under a true master. Because of this I believe I can recognise that Jesse is a true master in my opinion and he always approaches his videos in an interesting and intelligent way. This whole thing was very edifying. Well done all!
“I just didn’t think it would be effective without a mat” 💀 bro already lost the argument by forfeit
the majority of the natural worlds surface is more like a mat than a hard wood floor lol
@@pneumonical the majority of ur natural world is a mat, the majority of the civilized world is concrete, the natural world is water w/ rock
@@peterlin4641 true i guess most street fights would occur... on a street... but still its not like bjj isnt effective on hard ground, he probably just meant its less effective cus u have to hold back more on a hard surface to avoid injury if it was a street fight u can do a lot more damage to your opponent on a hard surface with wrestling and leverages so it might even be more effective if your talking about beating the opponent with no mercy
@@pneumonical my son was NYPD and he's absolutely convinced it's useless. It turns out the 2 moves he learned in the academy and 2 Judo moves he learned from his FTO is all u need . I always dismissed Judo but apparently I was wrong
@@peterlin4641 then your son is an idiot.
This is why wrestling is super important. Coming from a purple belt and former wrestler myself. Granted you guys weren’t going 100% but being on bottom can only truly work in your favour in pure submission grappling.
The first few UFC’s prove this statement wrong.
@@haroldw9054 We're not living in the 90's bro. Wake up
@@Ckou95 because no submissions happen from the bottom in todays UFC?
@@haroldw9054 It's not easy and doesn't happens often... Everybody avoids to be on their back cuz it's too dangerous
@@Ckou95 nine of these were from a supine guard. At least 3 others were were back takes/finishes from the supine position. This isn’t rare. It’s a huge part of the game.
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Your channel and this videos openness towards other martial arts is very refreshing. Thanks!
Hey Joe, appreciate you brother! It means a lot, and I appreciate the positivity with your comment and Super Thanks. Motivates me to make more videos -- hope to make some more good ones for ya soon!
@@joshbeambjj you bet! Giving always feels good and boosts my community effort 👌 Keep going strong 💪
The starting by Jesse - "Well well well" was so cool and villaineous! 🤣
Hahahah yea loved that part, it was his idea too
I love the mutual respect you have for each other! This was beautiful to watch.
Great video. These crossover videos are so good for martial arts in general to illustrate that anyone who shows determination and commitment to any form of martial art is worthy of respect and effectiveness is more dependant on the individual than their 'style'.
8:10 Uh, I am very sure all those pulled punches from Jesse would have knocked Josh out before he could win via attrition if he didn't hold back.
Agreed.
Agreed. That round wasn't inconclusive. Karate won by a mile, even with a whole matted floor
Agreed, he got f up. The thing is, you have to. Summit before taking 50 punches to the face, lol
For real that was biased
Like he said Jesse is a lot bigger than people think. Also he is an Olympic athlete so highly talented. Not the best in endurance though ....
As a BJJ dude, I know Jesse has a genuine respect for it You need to look no further than his brother having a really good submission game. I love the clickbait titles. I fully support it because the Jiu-Jitsu community takes themself to seriously a lot of the times
Karate often gets disrespected by modern stylists, but don’t underestimate it. Guys like Jesse are especially good at showing why karate should be seriously respected.
The only problem of karate is the fact that it *is not as easy to adapt* to mma.
@@alekslic3385 bullshit
@@alekslic3385deberías ver la ufc
The karate champions from Japan went to Thailand in the 60s and beat the thaifighters
@@mrtravelhub4313yeah a lot of thai people or coaches dont actually know that or just tell themselves that muay thai won
Josh came with a grudge and was at his 100% , while Jesse was at his 10%.
I love this!’ Haha your editing is on point too!!!
Hey thank you Kevin!
Kevin boy
Honestly, that was one of the best discussions about martial arts I've seen online in a very long time. You guys are awesome. Keep up the good work. 👍
"wait but you do bjj?" legendary moment
I died with that comment.
That was brutal
Right up there with "Butt hurt butt scooter" LOL 😂
What that mean? Cuz bjj is gay?
@@sipit1673 yea
Great Video Josh, Jesse is a beast and both of you are true martial artists.
Hey thank you!
Jesse and his bro are just cool dudes! totally amazing collab!
Had fun watching your video with the Karate Nerd. Great job. 😃😃😃😃👍👍👍👍
I have a 4th degree Black in Karate and a Blue Belt in BJJ, and I love both arts.
AWWW YEAH!!! GOOD FOR YOU!!!! GO BRAG TO YOUR FAT MAMA!
3rd degree in karate, brown belt in bjj - and i absolutely agree :)
I am currently a brown belt in Shotokan Karate, and as soon as I can I want to start training BJJ! Both arts are awesome! 😃🥋
Eliminate the sports only aspects of those two arts and you really have something there!
Novice in both , but there is a ton of value in learning any, and all you can !
The bat break was pretty sick!
This has been by far the most enjoyable video I’ve watched and listened to Jesse. I have subscribed to him for a couple of years now, and have the utmost respect for him. He is a wise teacher.
No baseball bat have been mistreat in this video
I'm just thinking "they sell baseball bats in Sweden?"
Looks like it had a crack in it no?
@@AirLancer yeah, but somehow balls sales are disproportionally low...
One was!!!
But grammar was murdered in your comment 😊
Thanks, guys! This was a great video. Great discussion, and it's exactly the type of discourse the martial arts community needs.
I did taekwondo as a kid, mma, in my teens, now I train judo. Mix it up, guys.
"in jiujutsu we don't need protection" well except for the whole floor xD
We don’t need pads cuz the whole fighting surface is a pad 😂
It’s true, boys can’t get pregnant
Well that's because you would break bones practicing on a normal.hard floor
Gotta start doing Street-Jitsu. Concrete surfaces, no rules, BUT you can only end the fight with a submission.
For practice, but not for fighting, all of judo is part of bjj.
This was incredible, honestly. Like, that chat at the end where they discussed the philosophy of “Climbing the mountains” of each martial art, and the fresh perspective it so consistently brings, it reminded me of the love and passion I truly felt for martial arts growing up. It makes me want to get back into this stuff all the more, you two are doing the Lord’s work. Keep it up 🙏
Brilliant vid.
“Butt hurt butt scooter” 😂
Not the video we wanted, but the video we needed.
Thank you, sick vid
4:25 "Jesse is a lot bigger than he looks in his videos". Yeah, I feel like part of it is due to his humbleness/nice-guy attitude; he doesn't let you realize how much of a threat he is until it's too late, and even then he'll treat you nicely. Maybe he really should have done more of that ninja training with the French guy, there's some potential there. lol
I think it's a combination of his nice guy attitude and the fact that his gi is very loose. His gi definitely makes him look smaller than he is. I didn't realize size until I saw some of his kickboxing and MMA stuff.
Usually most true martial artists are like this
That was pretty fun. Every time someone does 1 of these "style vs" vids they bring ego in....nice to see you guys just being real and having fun. Great vid!
Wholesome content. This is exactly what the martial arts are about
Jesse in his own videos: Just a lovely karate nerd who likes to spread his knowledge with others.
Jesse in other martial arts creators video: THE F FINAL BOSS OF KARATE
Dude would've been KO'd if the strikes were full on
Exactly
But jessee’s bigger though. I guess it just goes to show that size actually does matter to some degree
Yeah he was being super respectful, probably hitting at like 20%
@@bobross7473 He tries to say "in a real fight" so size isn't a factor when you start using that mindset
@@diddlenfiddle7311 in a real fight size is a bigger factor. The more rules you have and the more sport-like the fight is, the higher chances the small guy has to win
Jesse is such a gifted and natural grappler, why he hate on groundfighting so much? One of us! One of us!
Next level! Josh you’re the Anthony Bourdain of Martial Arts. ++ Loved Jesse spitting philosophy at the end “We’re human beings, not human doings” 🤯
Amazing video! You guys are Gr8! The "mountain" analogy makes so much sense 👍
Great video!
👋
Well if it isnt the guy who hates karate
This was so well done and honest, instant subscriber. Well done to you both!
Hey appreciate that man, thanks for watching! 🙏
I love the way you're "not using jiu jitsu" in the fourth match =D
Seriously though, awesome vid - two great creators coming together!
Hahaha I cheated… 😂
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it
It’s videos like this that remind me why I love MMA so much. It’s beautiful because it shows you all sorts of different cultures and martial arts types, prepares you for a whole plethora of different situations, and just like any other martial arts, it’s great exercise. What’s great though is like obviously, take someone who does MMA to a karate tournament or a BJJ tournament, and they’ll do alright, probably not as good as people trained in those specific arts, but it’s great to have a decent understanding of many situations, as street fighting tends to find. God, I love martial arts.
This was really wholesome tbh. Good content!
Great video. I believe that if more martial artists, and especially karateka, would simply engage in friendly, safe sparring with minimal rules where practitioners are free to spar at all ranges (stand up, clinch, and ground), we would see far more mutual respect and far fewer petty arguments about if or why a certain style is effective. A lot of the small points that people argue about are found to be rather insignificant when people actually just spar (friendly and safe, not a fight) and don't artificially dictate at what ranges the engagement occurs.
It’s a very wholesome and overall positive video!
classic example of an incomplete grappler, sit to guard and play footsie, it might win him comps but when it comes to it its a highly ineffective style for fighting
I actually agree with this 100% lol
Idk when that turned into BJJ. The top principle of BJJ is position before submission. Guard is supposed to be an option, but not a plan. BJJ has changed
@@mikea7732competition optimization vs fighting optimization
but hes not incomplete
@@joshbeambjjlol i appreciate the humility. I’m not familiar with your channel, but it appears you do not have wrestling experience is this correct? I bet if you did 6-12 months of wrestling classes once or twice a week this experience would’ve been totally different! You would’ve taken him down way easier size disadvantage or no. Just go slow with it though. I am a BJJ coach and I wrestled in high school. When guys come in fresh from HS wrestling the intensity is just too high for me. I’d have to build back up to wrestling condition but I can still take them down, and most importantly hold them there the rest of the round. I would also assume Jesse’s TDD is decent because of his brother shooting on him.
Huge respect to Josh. I’m thinking he probably took some stick from BJJ colleagues, but he is super humble and this is a huge part of martial arts.
Great fun video by two great guys. More power to you.
First round feels like a boss fight
This was a great interaction, conversation, and video. I hope that you both decide to do more videos together when you get the opportunity. Very best to you both!
"But you do BJJ???"
Fantastic video
I love the chemistry between these two. By the third sparring session they looked like they were having a blast together. Good content.
I’ve been doing bjj for three years now, I watched the ultimate self defense championship with my coach and we had a discussion luckily my coach doesn’t engage in propaganda. His exact words were “for street self defense a good 1,2 and high cover and some basic Greco wrestling are all you’ll ever need”
Not enough for street defense. You have to deal with low kicks, joint breaks, mauling, leg takedowns (Greco wrestling doesn't teach them). cupped palm strikes to ears etc. There is a reason said tactics are part of military hand to hand combat!
@@robertmallory1877 Does the common guy on the streets do low kicks, joint breaks, mauling, or leg takedowns? Usually, when the extent of their martial arts knowledge is that they know they should make a fist, they usually only haymakers. Though I've seen bigger guys do powerbombs when they have the opportunity to.
I like the "mountain" description at the end. I like to think that mostly (if not all) martial arts are situational. In a real fight I don't think a SINGLE martial art would be the most effective. Throwing powerful kicks might be good if you manage to keep some distance but what happens if you get knocked down? Maybe a punch to the head or a kick in the leg might knock your balance off, then what do you do next? This is the part where I think BJJ would be most useful... or maybe if you're trying to avoid a direct fight you might do some acrobatics and use some capoeira moves.
Idk man, I feel like every martial art is both useful and useless at the same time. It all depends on the situation (place, time, weather, size of opponent etc)
This video was amazing, I watched from start to finish!
Brilliant video. I really liked this as it illustrated Jesse with great humour and appreciation. Wonderful ❤
I see you're already employing your training with Jesse in your titles. xD Great vid. Jesse is such a humble Chad.
Thank you Both... Looks like this was educational and fun... (it was for me) You both are Great!
Dude! Jesse is an amazing collaborator. And you did well Josh! I enjoyed that you went with each other's ideas and welcoming each other and making each other laugh. I laughed. Great job guys 😁
Very nice video, thank you two for that!
8:00 if we are talking whats real, he got so many hits already at that time, so there is no fight and submission on the ground.
Exactly
Great collaboration guys. Thank you
Jesse is so humble yet very talented. He has a quest for knowledge and a desire to share, he epitomises the role of sensei . Oss jesse san, arigatou gozaimasu.
That "What the fuck" killed me lmao
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That was awesome. I’m team Jitsu but this was fun to watch. Nice job sir.
“Human Being not Human Doing. You can always switch up what you do. You are not what you do.”
Perfectly said
yeah this was the first time I'd heard it said like this, love it!
@@joshbeambjj thanks for this! Keep up the good work!
It’s great to see martial artist from different styles interact and get along so well and complement each other
Clever. Fell for the click-bait title and loved it.
This was a fun video to watch. Looks like you guys had fun doing it!
Great video! Karate and bjj, i'd say thats a good combination 😊
Awesome video as usual… every style has its place and every place has its own style so awesome that you guys can see either side of the coin for your systems and styles and ways of fighting. Been a stand-up striker my 37 years in Martial Arts BJ does have its place along with Karate taekwondo and all the other stand-up styles of striking Okinawa will always be the birthplace of Karate as I am A isshyinryu stylist now and so awesome that you bring up the fact that there’s a sport and a traditional style and we have to recognize the difference between the both keep putting out the awesome videos. Thank you sensei Jessie
Encamp went to the Gracie's in California and learned that Gracie jujitsu is still self defense based and focuses on defending against strikes.
It's part of core curriculum and they often put on gloves during rolls to remind practitioners that one always must be aware of strikes.
You only have to roll with a white belt to know you have to watch out for strikes.
I want to see a Gracie Jiu Jitsu purple belt go against karate guy
Man, what a GOOD video, so well made. Keep it up!
I think one thing this video does prove is if you actually practice it and actually spar karate is underrated. Good video.
First spar round and we see the common trait of BJJ practitioners: A bunch of excuses. Good video though, and I'm happy to see you post it despite the ups and downs.
The second round, where he states: “I guess the result of this one is inconclusive”, that’s disingenuous. He’d been punched in the face many, many times at this point. In a real fight, with no gloves, and real striking intent, his face would have been turned into pulp by this point.
Great video. You and Jesse made it fun, funny, and informative.
Brotha who give this guy purple belt
This is a legit question, indeed
This is a legit question, indeed 👍
I was #1 ranked M1 blue belt in the world in IBJJF in both feather and lightweight for 2023-2024 with over 70 tournaments in 2 years, including 2nd at Master Worlds, and multiple first place wins at the Master International tournaments in Europe and North America. Most recently in 2024, I was lightweight winner at the IBJJF Asia Championship in Japan. I was promoted a few months ago to purple belt by Greg Sirico of Odyssey Jiu Jitsu and also just recently won IBJJF Sacramento at purple belt middleweight.
but can’t take down a karateka? What does blue belt mean to you? To the old heads and some new masters blue means your BJJ vs non BJJ will win in the most safe and efficient way possible. No disrespect Josh you’d roll me like sushi but dude you got seriously handled in the first 2 rounds.
@@marco10832I guess he has the rare humility of a trained fighter. Whereas you are more like a social media (insert particular martial arts here) guy
man this was fun! almost everything can be useful its how you use what you know.
It's good to see a humble bjj guy and him not being cultish🎉🎉🎉
Very cool. Nice of Jesse to amp up the viewer's and make it an involved journey for all. Enjoyed the Mountain explanation and philosophy.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Two really awsome people!
Great discussion at the end! This was awesome.
Oliver, get your shoes off the mat!
A couple takeaways for me:
1. Jesse is pretty damn good! His striking is great. He's definitely not your average karate guy.
2. When are we going to admit he's also a BJJ guy? He may not quite be blue belt level, but he's definitely high white belt level. Enough to beat a trial class guy for sure. And he's officially competed and won.
3. A big reason BJJ doesn't seem as dominant today has nothing to do with its effectiveness or "it's becoming too sport focused." It's that almost everyone that trains now knows exactly what to expect and how to defend against a lot of it.
4. Also, other arts have learned another important lesson from the early days of NHB, and that is that in order to be a good fighter you have to train like a fighter (not a martial artist). What I mean is, training conditioning, "alive" drilling, lots of sparring, and at least occasional competition (even for the hobbyist). Jesse clearly does all that in addition to his more traditional training. He also crosstrains a bunch.
5. But if you don't do any of that and think you'll "just stand up" or easily knock someone out before they can clinch, 90% of the time that fight will still go exactly like one of the old Gracie challenge fights. 😏
People who aren't familiar with him don't realize that Jesse legit can fight. Dude has done all types of competitions
Legit Jessie could probably jack up someone
Love the Ace of Base song....lol...Excellent video Josh. Good stuff!!
Why you don't visit the Valente brothers or Rorion Gracie ? they get a jiu-jitsu focused in self defense.
very cool colab. i really like content creators that team up, and this is informative and playful at the same time. nice job guys
Thanks for watching!
Really interesting to here about the Okinawan-Chinese connection towards ground fighting as nowadays most Chinese ground fighting martial arts point only to "dog style".
Could be mistaken but did Jesse refer to this Chinese ground fighting style as ShíShù (or ShíJitsu) [ 实术 ]? I'd be really interested in knowing more as I'm trying to investigate on Chinese ground fighting!
@KARATEbyJesse
I think it was shown in one of his specials Karate Nerd in China, possibly under the name Fuzhou, dog boxing
Pretty sure he said it in Japanese as "chijutsu" 「ちじゅつ」「地術」which would be "dìshù" in Mandarin or literally "Ground Techniques" in English.
There is no perfect martial art. An open mind and mutual respect for all true martial arts is what I think is the core of a true martial art practioner. Thanks for a great video and greetings from Sweden!
"I am not a real fighter" - Jesse Enkamp. 8:43