“If the hip throw failed, I learned to take my opponent the opposite way.” Beautiful break through moment for you my friend. One of the “secrets” to judo.
Thanks Eric! Yeah that was a big moment when that started clicking. I’m still really bad at taking advantage of it, but I feel so many more openings now.
Judo teacher for 35+ years here... I think you're beginning to understand something that I really try to emphasize when I'm teaching, that Rules Drive Tactics - Tactics Are Not the Art. Each of the (perceived) differences in the various grappling disciplines are direct results of the tactical pressure their rulesets impose. When you understand that all forms of grappling have value (even Aikido), you can begin to see past the sometimes silly tactics that arise. (pulling guard, penalizing leg grabs, outlawing "slams," illegal gripping, forced advancement from a pin, etc.) If you want this old sensei's opinion on what to keep from judo in your journey... it's this -- The spirit of Randori is the spirit of Jita Kyoei. Studies have proven the superior training efficacy of play. You learn faster playing, you retain the knowledge longer, and more importantly... you are far less likely to be injured if your spirit is playful when you train/roll/spar/etc.
@jackfisher1921 is possibly true. That's maybe a little too absolute a statement for me to 100% agree with. However, even in the heyday (for me, the late 80s, early 90s) of competition, I did everything I could to use the rules to my advantage. I.e. I'd bait my opponents to a corner and try to force a defensive step out, I'd use quasi-legal lapel guarding to coax a noncombativity from them. The rules, even in an era I consider to have had better rules, still heavily influenced tactics... despite their apparently more combat-aligned make-up. To some degree, i think the modern rules are better... continuation of action as an example. As a sport version of the martial arts, it is indeed the safest, but as a martial art, the current ruleset fails to find a balance with practically.
@@bryanhurley6303 I learned Judo in the early 80's when I was stationed in Northern Japan. My training partners were the Japanese 3rd Air Wing Judo Team and the Misawa city Dojo. They were pretty old school. We would have team tournaments. There were no weight classes. Weight classes of the Olympics really changed a lot of training strategies. I see nothing wrong with playing the rules if it meant you had to control the way your opponent was moving. That actually has a lot of value in a street situation. What I couldn't stand was the Koka Judo that crept in during the 80's and 90's. Follow that with the idea of spinning out to avoid getting thrown on your back. Which was considered poor character and poor quality by the Japanese. A big part of learning Judo was having the humility to accept you were thrown. Not to mention the only reason you were being thrown on your back was for your own safety. To me, that was when Judo stopped being a Martial Art with a sporting aspect and became a game which people would do anything to win.
Josh, I am a brown belt in BJJ and Judo plus I wrestled in HS. Judo was the first grappling art I trained. In my opinion, one can learn effective takedowns with wrestling much faster than Judo. Judo takes a much longer time to get good at. Leg attacks are super important. That said, don't stop training your foot sweeps. A good foot sweep can really be a great asset in your grappling toolbox. Generally speaking different grappling arts give you different skills that are complementary. All will make you a more formidable BJJ competitor.
Same. Ive been doing judo for 3 years and i feel like its only helped my grip strength and ashiwaza. I briefly wrestled in HS and feel like i learned way more effective take downs in wrestling. I still use much of my wrestling in bjj. Modern judo would make Kano sick. IJF is just afraid that decent wrestler will take over.
@@jbgrappling I also think the body mechanics of wresting moves tend to be far more natural, making it easier to learn the techniques faster. It tends to take much longer to gain the muscle memory for many Judo techniques so that it feels natural. The first time you do a harai-goshi, for example, it can feel so awkward. With a lot practice (sometimes years) harai-goshi can become an incredibly effective technique for an individual and a great defense to a single leg takedown attack. But a beginner can usually learn to do a double leg or a single leg takedown much faster than harai-goshi. When I started Judo double and single leg attacks were fully legal. By the way, in the all Japan Judo championship some leg grab techniques will be allowed back in. I am curious to see if the IJF follows suit.
Good point, Judo does have much higher learning curve. I did Judo and Wrestling both as a kid so my wrestling at least is heavily influenced by Judo. It takes years for throws to actually become muscle memory, wrestling does feel more natural for how your body wants to learn. I will say that someone who is good at Judo will have an easier time learning wrestling than the other way around (from my experience). I haven't done BJJ but I'd think a wrestling base would probably be more useful for at least no gi. Realistically you probably need to be at a brown belt level in Judo for it to really feel natural.
Good on you mate, im closing on 20 years of judo now, and while not super active anymore, I've cherished every moment of it! You've progressed amazingly for a year, great to see you've learned about combinations, forward to backwards etc. keep going!
As a judo player and a currently injured bjj player.i love this video. It shows the incompleteness of modern judo. Wrestling+judo (in that order) is the best systems for bjj takedowns. Great video
@Jake-pm3pz in general yes. And if the IJF had implemented the Kodokan rule set recently I'd have said definitely but modern judo stops you from grabbing the legs which is so important for a high percentage takedown
I grew up doing Judo and it's served me well when needed. I really enjoy the respect and dedication you gave to the art. It's great to see your conclusion how wrestling helps more.
Coming from wrestling to bjj this video gave a really interesting perspective on learning more take downs and starting without that wrestling base. Awesome being able to watch your journey josh!
Even though I study Japanese fencing I love being able to follow your "Musha Shugyo" learning from different teachers and improving your skills. Thank you and Subbed
Dude, question (that's likely on everybody's mind): are you independently wealthy? I mean, how are you able to fly around to all these BJJ tournaments around the globe w/o having a job? Yes, I heard you say you "...quit your job to become a full-time RUclipsr" but at 20,000 subs do you make enough $$$ to pay the bills? If so, HOW?!? I thought YT pays dogshit money until you're SUPER high up there (like over 100K subs and up). Please don't think I'm being some kind of skeptical hater- I'm not- I adore you and love your videos, which are just absolutely wonderful and SO relatable- my wonder is how you make the financial side of al this actually work. Anyway it's none of my business so if you don't wanna explain your personal financial situation to a complete stranger on the internet then by all means don't- but if you CAN shed a bit more light on how you make the money-side click then by all means please do so. Again: FANTASTIC channel, great content; just very real and uplifting. Thank you for everything you've done and all that you do and know that you have a fan in Brooklyn.
@@green4greendifference between american and British culture. He is like a 19th century english gentleman. Like darwin being a gentleman he eschews paid employment and strives towards self improvement which he shares freely here. But yeah Americans despise people like that until they inherit billions. Then they form government
Great journey Josh. I'm rehabbing my knee from a training injury which I got just before I saw you at the San Jose Open. Keep making great content brother.
i really like this story format for your videos. It gives me a feeling of what the journey was like, and its always about the journey. Makes me want to do jujitsu again, but at 48 I will stick with my relatively injury free wing chun now.
I love the arc on this one. What you have achieved here was true martial arts darwinism, and it's beautiful to see your experimentation unfolding - in the end you cooked your own MMA recipe for takedowns. My interest in martial arts is very recent, and although it's more from a self defense perspective than sports, I think I came to similar conclusions as you. I started with bjj, but then I decided to switch to judo because the takedowns are so powerful, but then I also noticed that wrestling is extremely effective and versatile. I think what judo has in elegance and mysticism, wrestling has in pragmatics.
The issue you have in bjj,is that people can stall by stiff arming or pushing their hips out, I found it difficult to close the gaps and, as such, have been attending the wrestling class at our dojo everyweek, Being 57 and a black belt and being the oldest one in the class it also helps with my cardio as when wrestling as in judo there's no place you can hide, What I've found now is that I'm not afraid for people to grab my neck for head control,breaking grips and taking control is now much easier and use it to bait my opponents, It's certainly helped and given more confidence when starting from standing Anyway great video and good.to see this issue raised as I'm sure many people have the same issues, Ossssss
Stiff arming is negated by good grip fighting. You won't be doing any Judo unless you can grip fight. It's more important than learning all the throws.
Super interesting. Really impressive the humility. When an expert in one field takes on a new field and leaves the ego at the door ... that's impressive.
Josh, You are a great example of a complete martial artist. You are experiencing truth through direct experience and not being bound by everchanging trends. Thank you.
Congrats on your martial arts journey!! You're getting better and better at takedowns and I like your sumi-gaeshi. However, it takes time to master judo´s throws. Don´t give up!
You’re so fast, and that can make up for a myriad of other mistakes. Like my sensei would tell us, “practice makes perfect but if it works in a real fight, it works.” Like others have said, you’re still a beginner, so keep practicing and you’ll continue to excel. Thank you for having a humble enough attitude to always learn new things.
Ultimately the best and most foundational Judo moves are also common wrestling moves. It then comes down to application and entry. I think the best part about Judo is the idea of Kuzushi, footsweeps and the timing needed for them Gi grip fighting and the imaginary triangle between you and your opponents feet to make entries into forward and backwards throws. This is really important and essential knowledge/skill for all grapplers that will give a huge edge. For everything else I would say pure wrestling is key and king. Wrestling truly is the oldest martial art in the world and the most dominant martial art in MMA and for good reason.
Exactly man. Every actually good wrestler is already basically a black belt in judo. I went to one Judo class in Columbus Ohio and they all said I throw like a judo black belt. There are some small variations to their moves. Ultimately I can't give judo much love until they realize their art was made for wearing armor. They're not wearing armor anymore. Start incorporating double leg blasts, low singles, shots in general. Just like we wrestlers realized we don't wield spears anymore. We quit training with spears.
@@nicknick3377 u have to be delusional to think good wrestler is considered a black beli in judo. U kust have gone to a shady judo gym if they thinking throw like a judoka. lmao
@@dhimankalita1690 What are you talking about? Uchi mata, Osoto Gari and Ouchi Gari are used all the time in wrestling. Infact alot of the Georgians and Eastern Block Judoka use a more wrestling style variation(grip). They wont look exactly like wrestling because of the grip fighting and gi. You are wrong.
@@danielleclair1360 no they are not. This are judo origin moves which are documented . Only soviet countries started using ut when judo was introduced jn soviet and there were cross training which created sambo. But origin ompf these are from judo
Push, pull, snap down, fake shots. All to get a reaction. Bro check out the “cow catcher” it’s a wrestling move that’s easy doesn’t require a lot of energy and it puts you in side control. Also ankle picks are nice! Shooting for the legs takes so much energy especially if they sprawl and you have to work your way up or around it. Love the vids man you’re a beast!
@Josh Beam BJJ - the new Judo ruleset in 2025 might be something that works really well in your favour. The potential re-introduction of a single leg grab (and double in very specific situations) may open up some really useful ideas - some of which you are already doing in your BJJ comp footage ;) Keep up the good work and wishing you future success whereever this channel goes
@@kanucks9 well at least we get to see what happens at the all Japan and maybe the IJF change their mind. Yes the butt grabbing stuff made me really sad too :(
Josh. Just like BJJ, Judo is a long term journey. You aren't going to learn much in a year, try 5 years. What I see in your video, is that you start out with pure intentions to learn takedowns, but as the lure of sport bjj pulls you back in, you resort back to your old ways. Then you abandon Judo because wrestling is a quicker perceived path, not that it's wrong. It seems to be a pattern with you, get the quickest result in the least amount of time. There's something to be said for delayed gratification and putting in the work, that's something you should have already learned in bjj, but you need to apply it to Judo. Instead of thinking about the next competition, think on what kind of black belt you want to be. That's a much longer timeline, and it gives you perspective. Great video, keep training brother.
You should have a word with Kron Gracie…joking aside, really interesting point at the end about specific takedown arts blending together in no gi. Awesome stuff, man!
Hey Josh. I'm a brown belt in in judo and currently a orange belt in bjj. I come from judo as I have practiced that for 12 years and I started doing BJJ aswell and you can see that judo throws really help as I have won all of my recent competitions with throws and then taking control ontop. Its very nice to see that people that primarly do BJJ also try to do Judo.
I'm glad you at least acknowledge how wack it is to be the type of player who just does ankle locks and tries to win by racking up bullshit points, such as counting 3s so you can pull guard and sweep. Respect for trying to break out of those habits and mindset
1:36 - The true spirit of jiujitsu is to survive (as efficiently as possible). Helio Grace was a master of self defense. He always put the obligation of making HIM quit on his opponent. This is an important thing to remember when we practice jiujitsu.
I finally decided to get my shoulder fixed after years of working with some torn tendons. The rehab sucks but I’m hoping I’ll be able to work into my 60’s once it’s done. Close to 51 now and I was struggling with handling our mentally unstable clients at times. Skills only take you so far if your body starts to give out.
Finally someone that sees the benefits of mixing Judo, Ju-jitsu and for me Wrestling. I mix all three together and have mad it much better for myself when it comes to Grappling. Yes, for me, Muay Thai, Karate, Judo, Ju Jitsu, Wrestling as well as other Arts. Never limit yourself to one Art. The way that you take people down is somewhat how I would in a tournament if competing.
I takes around 3 years ( maybe less depending on your frequency) to start grasping Judo. Is helping me a lot cross- training with Bjj. Had Left shoulder ACL strained after a scissor sweep 2 years ago doing ne waza...
That was the most moving video ever. I had that experience of doing BJJ and Judo at the same time as a white belt in both and the affect on both martial arts is just mind blowing (Still a white belt though hehe)
I'm following your path with about 9 month delay (and I'm not competing). So far I like judo better than wrestling. I'm not fast nor athletic so I prioritize techniques over speed.
Wrestling and judo have great synergy! Judo is wrestling in a jacket. Do judo for awhile then go train and learn from some wrestlers or vice versa. You will see how they are so similar. Judo has adopted wrestling moves and wrestling has adopted judo moves at the highest level.
@@rns7426I'm not professional but looks like you should stand very low in wrestling and tall in judo to get advantage. But might be some similarities exist.
I started judo after becoming a bjj black belt. It's helped my bjj immensely, obviously the stand up, but also I'm harder to sweep. The key breakthrough was also using foot sweeps to set up the takedowns. I'm a brown belt now, going for black soon.
I first wrestled in HS before starting bjj later in life. No-gi came quite naturally to me given my background however I struggled a bit in the gi. I didn’t really know how to break grips so a lot of my takedown attempts in the beginning were just stymied by people stiffarming me with strong lapel grips. So I think, at least for the gi, judo is a really good complement particularly for learning how to break and establish effective grips. I’ve been working with a few judo guys at my gym and now I’m interested in learning more judo! All that to say, wrestling and judo are great complements to both gi and no gi bjj.
Yeah I remember back when I first started judo they had just banned double-leg takedowns, then a few years in they took out single-leg unless you start with a throw. This disappointed sooooo many judokas because clearly it was prioritizing the aesthetics of throws while watering down the actual art and its self-defense components. I strongly believe that judo gyms should still teach/train the leg takedowns beyond competition.
My friend has a 5th degee black belt in judo, taught by a master from japan which made him bettef at it...He told me, aikido has gone by the wayside, so I wouldn't be surprised if he said it's the same w/ BJJ and jiu jitsu...He moved to another country, so I may never know ?? He showed me one of the best judo throws and I threw him the first time w/ NO MOMENTUM from him...He landed about 6 feet off to between the side and forewared...It's control the arm by grabbing his wrist, grabb under the arm pit, ( not the gi ) move in w/ the hip and push into the person and than just throw...He taught me tall people, can throw harder and cuz I'm 6'2", it "MIGHT" be why I threw him so far...He was actualy a bit stunned, as if he was never thrown so far in sparing and training ?? Nobiggie...He also taught me, there is ONLY ONE form of Judo for sport and self defense...Thing is, he also use the best form of karate, a 3rd degree black belt in shorinji ryu, karate, a 1st degree black bellt in full contact TKD, was proficient in boxing and was a pro kickboxer and was the real deal, legit hardcore pro an no NON PRO UFC whimpiness, for example...He started his training, etc at age 5 in 1976 to 2003...He had to beat 4 guys at his rank which they didn't hold back to achieve all of his 9 black belts and all other colors...That's the legit way to achieve belts...Thing is, all he needs to beat about anyone, is shorinji ryu karate...It's sweet...A karate guy told me, my friend could accidentally put anyone in the ICU, w/ only his 3rd degree...No heavyweight pro boxer has ever put anyonei in the ICU at full force...Food 4 thought...He also said, his 8th ( no typo 8th ) degree black belt sensei in isshinryu karate COULD NOT stand a chance against my friend...He said in a silly way, yet tried hard to make is point well, that my friend is a machine an unstoppable robot, and his first comment he made, was it's NUTS your friend does shorinji ryu...He literallly said, NUTS...Think about that for a moment...He's right, cuz many say it's too dangerous to teach and use and it's based on kung fu, a high degree of prescision, speed, timing, power and distance...He used the most powerful punch, the okinowan punch...He lifted weights and used a russian strength training system and he worked out w/ 400 pounds bench and the karate guy said, cuz he was very strong, it made my friend even better at fighting and I KNOW he was...At only 160, he said, he'd KO, or flat out beat the best strongest heavyweights in the UFC, but not in his real deal hardcore leagues...He taught me, UFC guys train no mor than 6 years for black blets, if they use a belt using system and I know that seems wrong, but cuz of he legit hardcore, pro skills he knows it's the truth...He watched the start of a UFC match and under about 7 seconds he said, that's NOT HOW YOU fight, and I could easily beaat thosed guys....My point is, all he needed to use was shorinji ryu karate and his 5th degree black belt in Judo is a MONSTER bonus in fighting....Same w/ his other 3 forms of fighting...I heard judo is the best for not getting taking off your feet ?? I also heard of a 90 MPH ( NOT sure ?? ) judo throw....At his LEGIT PRO level, size meant nothing to him and would OBLITERATE the over hyped, cocky connor Mcgregor in his prime....It wouldn't even be funny to see that happen...More, but not needed...Food 4 thought !! God bless :):)
Would love to see you take a 3-month full-time internship course in Kodokan, Japan. It includes a hostel and 2 meals a day. Condition: train every day, thrice a day, 7 days a week. Your judo will be better than most in the world.
lol if you don't have any ranks in judo, you're forced to take the beginners program, the first month of kodokan training has you slapping the mats and doing useless things.
well I'm doing Bjj 4 times a week , thanks to this video I'm starting wrestling tomorrow on the days I don't train jiu jitsu, thanks man ( I was struggling to decide wether or not starting, well I'm hyped now)
My opinion. Most valuable from judo to bjj is the grip fighting. I always explain takedowns in training as wrestling with gi. utilizing the pant and sleeve grips. -12 years as black belt
Sick, as a purple belt myself, my stand up sucks, I get some foot sweeps here and there, or ankle picks but definitely want to implement some more Judo.
@joshbeambjj "man pulls off worst shot for double leg in history. Opponent fumbles easy stuff, doesn't sprawl, doesn't down block, and loses match in most embarrassing upset since craig jones beat beat gabi garcia in cji 2024"
I’m a BJJ purple belt too. I’m 44 yr old, 5’5”, and 175lbs. I do primarily no-gi. I did Judo for 2 yrs starting in 2020. It was brutal on my body and I didn’t really do gi BJJ but judo is Gi only. I should probably get back onto it now. I’m far better now 😮 I was but now I have a bum knee. Anyways judo is so helpful if you learn it and apply it correctly.
I gave up on BJJ as a 40+ year old due to an egotistic BJJ gym owner. Thanks for reigniting my flame to roll again bro. You inspire me man, keep it up bro!
I saw some really nice sweep and throws, you are traveling in the right direction. Continue with the wrestling and judo experiments and you will reach your goals. And don’t forget that it’s really hard to throw a trained grappler, try your techniques on a civilian every now and then 😉
I competed as well, I got promoted at Gi Worlds from blue to purple, had a fun time and definitely used my wrestling. Unfortunately, not a ton of guys left at Masters 6 ultra, just my buddy Paolo. Looking forward to 2025!
“If the hip throw failed, I learned to take my opponent the opposite way.” Beautiful break through moment for you my friend. One of the “secrets” to judo.
Thanks Eric! Yeah that was a big moment when that started clicking. I’m still really bad at taking advantage of it, but I feel so many more openings now.
neat stuff
I'm a Judo black belt for 20 years and Jiu Jitsu black belt. Judo is always a super power, the strength of your posture and balance
seems youre biased
What's the best way to get started with judo if there's no schools in your area?
@sharkshock9080 look for RUclips tutorial to start slowly
@@user540000 He's not, when I stand with a Judo Black belt I feel like I'm training with an iron pole
It's amazing how many people don't understand the value of that balance and posture in a real fighting situation.
Judo teacher for 35+ years here... I think you're beginning to understand something that I really try to emphasize when I'm teaching, that Rules Drive Tactics - Tactics Are Not the Art. Each of the (perceived) differences in the various grappling disciplines are direct results of the tactical pressure their rulesets impose. When you understand that all forms of grappling have value (even Aikido), you can begin to see past the sometimes silly tactics that arise. (pulling guard, penalizing leg grabs, outlawing "slams," illegal gripping, forced advancement from a pin, etc.)
If you want this old sensei's opinion on what to keep from judo in your journey... it's this -- The spirit of Randori is the spirit of Jita Kyoei. Studies have proven the superior training efficacy of play. You learn faster playing, you retain the knowledge longer, and more importantly... you are far less likely to be injured if your spirit is playful when you train/roll/spar/etc.
i like that, i will take your advice on board
Judo is (okay maybe not so much lately) the only sport which the rules and scoring are a balance between real combat and keeping things safe.
@jackfisher1921 is possibly true. That's maybe a little too absolute a statement for me to 100% agree with. However, even in the heyday (for me, the late 80s, early 90s) of competition, I did everything I could to use the rules to my advantage. I.e. I'd bait my opponents to a corner and try to force a defensive step out, I'd use quasi-legal lapel guarding to coax a noncombativity from them. The rules, even in an era I consider to have had better rules, still heavily influenced tactics... despite their apparently more combat-aligned make-up.
To some degree, i think the modern rules are better... continuation of action as an example. As a sport version of the martial arts, it is indeed the safest, but as a martial art, the current ruleset fails to find a balance with practically.
@@bryanhurley6303 I learned Judo in the early 80's when I was stationed in Northern Japan. My training partners were the Japanese 3rd Air Wing Judo Team and the Misawa city Dojo. They were pretty old school. We would have team tournaments. There were no weight classes.
Weight classes of the Olympics really changed a lot of training strategies. I see nothing wrong with playing the rules if it meant you had to control the way your opponent was moving. That actually has a lot of value in a street situation.
What I couldn't stand was the Koka Judo that crept in during the 80's and 90's. Follow that with the idea of spinning out to avoid getting thrown on your back.
Which was considered poor character and poor quality by the Japanese. A big part of learning Judo was having the humility to accept you were thrown. Not to mention the only reason you were being thrown on your back was for your own safety.
To me, that was when Judo stopped being a Martial Art with a sporting aspect and became a game which people would do anything to win.
Great reply. Not sure if that will sink in with a competition oriented viewership, but still very true.
Josh, I am a brown belt in BJJ and Judo plus I wrestled in HS. Judo was the first grappling art I trained. In my opinion, one can learn effective takedowns with wrestling much faster than Judo. Judo takes a much longer time to get good at. Leg attacks are super important. That said, don't stop training your foot sweeps. A good foot sweep can really be a great asset in your grappling toolbox. Generally speaking different grappling arts give you different skills that are complementary. All will make you a more formidable BJJ competitor.
Same. Ive been doing judo for 3 years and i feel like its only helped my grip strength and ashiwaza. I briefly wrestled in HS and feel like i learned way more effective take downs in wrestling. I still use much of my wrestling in bjj. Modern judo would make Kano sick. IJF is just afraid that decent wrestler will take over.
@@jbgrappling I also think the body mechanics of wresting moves tend to be far more natural, making it easier to learn the techniques faster. It tends to take much longer to gain the muscle memory for many Judo techniques so that it feels natural. The first time you do a harai-goshi, for example, it can feel so awkward. With a lot practice (sometimes years) harai-goshi can become an incredibly effective technique for an individual and a great defense to a single leg takedown attack. But a beginner can usually learn to do a double leg or a single leg takedown much faster than harai-goshi. When I started Judo double and single leg attacks were fully legal. By the way, in the all Japan Judo championship some leg grab techniques will be allowed back in. I am curious to see if the IJF follows suit.
Good point, Judo does have much higher learning curve. I did Judo and Wrestling both as a kid so my wrestling at least is heavily influenced by Judo. It takes years for throws to actually become muscle memory, wrestling does feel more natural for how your body wants to learn. I will say that someone who is good at Judo will have an easier time learning wrestling than the other way around (from my experience). I haven't done BJJ but I'd think a wrestling base would probably be more useful for at least no gi. Realistically you probably need to be at a brown belt level in Judo for it to really feel natural.
This. Also wrestling has the advantage of not relying on the gi.
I got taken down by a rugby player who had no experience in any fighting arts!
Good on you mate, im closing on 20 years of judo now, and while not super active anymore, I've cherished every moment of it! You've progressed amazingly for a year, great to see you've learned about combinations, forward to backwards etc. keep going!
As a judo player and a currently injured bjj player.i love this video. It shows the incompleteness of modern judo. Wrestling+judo (in that order) is the best systems for bjj takedowns. Great video
Thanks for watching!
Judo for gi and wrestling for no gi
@Jake-pm3pz in general yes. And if the IJF had implemented the Kodokan rule set recently I'd have said definitely but modern judo stops you from grabbing the legs which is so important for a high percentage takedown
All BJJ players are injured my broodah
How is intentionally exposing your back good for BJJ exactly?
I grew up doing Judo and it's served me well when needed. I really enjoy the respect and dedication you gave to the art. It's great to see your conclusion how wrestling helps more.
Such well done content Josh. You are headed for true RUclips greatness.
Appreciate that bro 🙏🙏 thanks for subscribing and watching!
Coming from wrestling to bjj this video gave a really interesting perspective on learning more take downs and starting without that wrestling base. Awesome being able to watch your journey josh!
Takes a lot of humility to take a step back to move forward. Subbed.
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Your videos never miss!
Hey thanks bro as always!
Well done, Joshie! So much to be proud of. What a year
Appreciate that man 🙏💪
Even though I study Japanese fencing I love being able to follow your "Musha Shugyo" learning from different teachers and improving your skills.
Thank you and Subbed
Judo and wrestling and BJJ is a must for modern grappling
so every one of the BIG three grappling got it haha but fr though they all have different aspects which are really good
@fatcat-z3zyea bro. Be lethal standing and on the ground 🫶🏼
@@x-Musashi-x trueeeee
@@x-Musashi-x Combat sambo + wrestling seems to work out for the dagestanis
Judo or wrestling can stand on their own for self defence or mma. That is not the case for BJJ.
Great video! As a BJJ practitioner here in Brazil, I really miss takedown training. Your story told in the video inspired me to study wrestling more.
I’ve been cross training with Judo for one year too. Judo is amazing. At this point I can say I’m more passionate about it than BJJ itself.
Josh, well done, a great series of video's. Martial arts is a journey, judo, boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, mma, its all good!
Dude, question (that's likely on everybody's mind): are you independently wealthy? I mean, how are you able to fly around to all these BJJ tournaments around the globe w/o having a job? Yes, I heard you say you "...quit your job to become a full-time RUclipsr" but at 20,000 subs do you make enough $$$ to pay the bills? If so, HOW?!? I thought YT pays dogshit money until you're SUPER high up there (like over 100K subs and up).
Please don't think I'm being some kind of skeptical hater- I'm not- I adore you and love your videos, which are just absolutely wonderful and SO relatable- my wonder is how you make the financial side of al this actually work.
Anyway it's none of my business so if you don't wanna explain your personal financial situation to a complete stranger on the internet then by all means don't- but if you CAN shed a bit more light on how you make the money-side click then by all means please do so.
Again: FANTASTIC channel, great content; just very real and uplifting. Thank you for everything you've done and all that you do and know that you have a fan in Brooklyn.
100% he will not answer this question. lol
it's crazy that someone can take a video about doing judo and write a comment like this
@@green4greendifference between american and British culture. He is like a 19th century english gentleman. Like darwin being a gentleman he eschews paid employment and strives towards self improvement which he shares freely here. But yeah Americans despise people like that until they inherit billions. Then they form government
Some people have rich parents and don't need to work. Not saying it's the case here, but it might be.
Trust Fund baby‼
Love it. Fail, fail, fail, fail. Just started judo and the concept of Kuzushi is everywhere in every sport. Love the tenacity !
Great journey Josh. I'm rehabbing my knee from a training injury which I got just before I saw you at the San Jose Open. Keep making great content brother.
i really like this story format for your videos. It gives me a feeling of what the journey was like, and its always about the journey. Makes me want to do jujitsu again, but at 48 I will stick with my relatively injury free wing chun now.
Yes, finally new video from my Judo senpai
One of the most humble bjj guys I’ve ever seen, solid ass video my guy 👌
Appreciate that brother! Glad you liked the vid.
With your persistence at becoming better I had to subscribe
I love the arc on this one. What you have achieved here was true martial arts darwinism, and it's beautiful to see your experimentation unfolding - in the end you cooked your own MMA recipe for takedowns. My interest in martial arts is very recent, and although it's more from a self defense perspective than sports, I think I came to similar conclusions as you. I started with bjj, but then I decided to switch to judo because the takedowns are so powerful, but then I also noticed that wrestling is extremely effective and versatile. I think what judo has in elegance and mysticism, wrestling has in pragmatics.
Such a great video on personal growth and progression. I appreciate this sir !! 🙂
The issue you have in bjj,is that people can stall by stiff arming or pushing their hips out,
I found it difficult to close the gaps and, as such, have been attending the wrestling class at our dojo everyweek,
Being 57 and a black belt and being the oldest one in the class it also helps with my cardio as when wrestling as in judo there's no place you can hide,
What I've found now is that I'm not afraid for people to grab my neck for head control,breaking grips and taking control is now much easier and use it to bait my opponents,
It's certainly helped and given more confidence when starting from standing
Anyway great video and good.to see this issue raised as I'm sure many people have the same issues,
Ossssss
Stiff arming is negated by good grip fighting. You won't be doing any Judo unless you can grip fight. It's more important than learning all the throws.
Bravo to you for taking it upon yourself to learn ALL the aspects of wrestling/grappling!
Thanks for sharing your journey. Very cool stuff and amazing consistent growth displayed.
Super interesting. Really impressive the humility. When an expert in one field takes on a new field and leaves the ego at the door ... that's impressive.
It was fun watching your journey!
That is an incredibly good attitude. You are going to be a fantastic well-rounded grappler
Josh, You are a great example of a complete martial artist. You are experiencing truth through direct experience and not being bound by everchanging trends. Thank you.
I appreciate that! Thank you sir
There you go! Way to go Josh! Just had to stop joshin around ..
Awesome seeing your progression Josh! Might see you on the comp tatami next year 🤜
You are a true martial artist. Thank you for sharing your journey with us.
Quality video brotha keep it up!!
Congrats on your martial arts journey!! You're getting better and better at takedowns and I like your sumi-gaeshi. However, it takes time to master judo´s throws. Don´t give up!
Appreciate it, and thanks for watching!
You’re so fast, and that can make up for a myriad of other mistakes. Like my sensei would tell us, “practice makes perfect but if it works in a real fight, it works.” Like others have said, you’re still a beginner, so keep practicing and you’ll continue to excel. Thank you for having a humble enough attitude to always learn new things.
Congratulations, good work and great video!
Ultimately the best and most foundational Judo moves are also common wrestling moves. It then comes down to application and entry. I think the best part about Judo is the idea of Kuzushi, footsweeps and the timing needed for them Gi grip fighting and the imaginary triangle between you and your opponents feet to make entries into forward and backwards throws. This is really important and essential knowledge/skill for all grapplers that will give a huge edge. For everything else I would say pure wrestling is key and king. Wrestling truly is the oldest martial art in the world and the most dominant martial art in MMA and for good reason.
Exactly man. Every actually good wrestler is already basically a black belt in judo. I went to one Judo class in Columbus Ohio and they all said I throw like a judo black belt. There are some small variations to their moves. Ultimately I can't give judo much love until they realize their art was made for wearing armor. They're not wearing armor anymore. Start incorporating double leg blasts, low singles, shots in general. Just like we wrestlers realized we don't wield spears anymore. We quit training with spears.
No the best moves are definitely not traditional wrestling move uchimata , ouchi Gari osoto Gari are judo moves .
@@nicknick3377 u have to be delusional to think good wrestler is considered a black beli in judo. U kust have gone to a shady judo gym if they thinking throw like a judoka. lmao
@@dhimankalita1690 What are you talking about? Uchi mata, Osoto Gari and Ouchi Gari are used all the time in wrestling. Infact alot of the Georgians and Eastern Block Judoka use a more wrestling style variation(grip). They wont look exactly like wrestling because of the grip fighting and gi.
You are wrong.
@@danielleclair1360 no they are not. This are judo origin moves which are documented . Only soviet countries started using ut when judo was introduced jn soviet and there were cross training which created sambo. But origin ompf these are from judo
I subbed when I saw you with Jesse, but I feel like this video was more sub-worthy. Keep it up, Josh.
Never quit.
Never give up.
Practice will only make you much better.
Great video!
Impressive! Good luck!!
new judo rule set in 2025 with leg grabs
This makes me so happy and i’m a boxer 😂
@@Jacob-hv5tl ill out box you
@@WhoisAustin I hope not 😂
IJF refused to accept the change. Kodokan brought them back in Japan. It'll depend on which direction the competitions you enter decide to go.
Only for All Japan Open Weight and Empress Cup. IJF won’t allow leg grabs
Very cool video. Keep working hard and dont give up in Judo!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the encouragement
Push, pull, snap down, fake shots. All to get a reaction. Bro check out the “cow catcher” it’s a wrestling move that’s easy doesn’t require a lot of energy and it puts you in side control. Also ankle picks are nice! Shooting for the legs takes so much energy especially if they sprawl and you have to work your way up or around it. Love the vids man you’re a beast!
@Josh Beam BJJ - the new Judo ruleset in 2025 might be something that works really well in your favour. The potential re-introduction of a single leg grab (and double in very specific situations) may open up some really useful ideas - some of which you are already doing in your BJJ comp footage ;) Keep up the good work and wishing you future success whereever this channel goes
It didn't turn out that way :(
All we get is butt grabs lol
@@kanucks9 well at least we get to see what happens at the all Japan and maybe the IJF change their mind. Yes the butt grabbing stuff made me really sad too :(
Good job Josh - onward!
Josh. Just like BJJ, Judo is a long term journey. You aren't going to learn much in a year, try 5 years. What I see in your video, is that you start out with pure intentions to learn takedowns, but as the lure of sport bjj pulls you back in, you resort back to your old ways. Then you abandon Judo because wrestling is a quicker perceived path, not that it's wrong. It seems to be a pattern with you, get the quickest result in the least amount of time. There's something to be said for delayed gratification and putting in the work, that's something you should have already learned in bjj, but you need to apply it to Judo. Instead of thinking about the next competition, think on what kind of black belt you want to be. That's a much longer timeline, and it gives you perspective.
Great video, keep training brother.
Maaan! this is a huge "experiment" while you getting to become a more complete athlete. Congrats!!!
Appreciate that! And thanks for watching. It was quite the long experiment 😂
You should have a word with Kron Gracie…joking aside, really interesting point at the end about specific takedown arts blending together in no gi. Awesome stuff, man!
Hey Josh. I'm a brown belt in in judo and currently a orange belt in bjj. I come from judo as I have practiced that for 12 years and I started doing BJJ aswell and you can see that judo throws really help as I have won all of my recent competitions with throws and then taking control ontop. Its very nice to see that people that primarly do BJJ also try to do Judo.
BJJ has no Orange belts for adults. You're at a mcdojo
amazing videos ( been watching since last year) amazing content.
Amazing journey. Love the work you put it. Keep grinding my dude ;)
Appreciate the love and support!
Awesome video dude, keep it up 👍
I'm glad you at least acknowledge how wack it is to be the type of player who just does ankle locks and tries to win by racking up bullshit points, such as counting 3s so you can pull guard and sweep. Respect for trying to break out of those habits and mindset
Awesome and inspiring content! Thank you and .... Merry Christmas!
Thanks man! Merry Christmas
Bro, respect for the effort to stop but scooting, from a non bjj (and non judo) martial arts practitioner (in this case just a spectator)
This is exactly what I keep thinking bjj players need to do. cool to watch you do it.
It's awesome that you're improving yourself..
proud of you Josh!
thanks Alex, appreciate you man!
Great training dude love it
30 seconds into this video I thought to myself you should be training wrestling. Good video not surprised how it ended.
1:36 - The true spirit of jiujitsu is to survive (as efficiently as possible). Helio Grace was a master of self defense. He always put the obligation of making HIM quit on his opponent. This is an important thing to remember when we practice jiujitsu.
I finally decided to get my shoulder fixed after years of working with some torn tendons. The rehab sucks but I’m hoping I’ll be able to work into my 60’s once it’s done. Close to 51 now and I was struggling with handling our mentally unstable clients at times. Skills only take you so far if your body starts to give out.
Loved this video, thank you!
Finally someone that sees the benefits of mixing Judo, Ju-jitsu and for me Wrestling.
I mix all three together and have mad it much better for myself when it comes to Grappling.
Yes, for me, Muay Thai, Karate, Judo, Ju Jitsu, Wrestling as well as other Arts.
Never limit yourself to one Art.
The way that you take people down is somewhat how I would in a tournament if competing.
I’ve been boxing for 6 years, I’m excited to start training judo it seems like so much fun.
Awesome video.
I enjoyed your video, learn much about BJJ from it, thanks!
I takes around 3 years ( maybe less depending on your frequency) to start grasping Judo. Is helping me a lot cross- training with Bjj. Had Left shoulder ACL strained after a scissor sweep 2 years ago doing ne waza...
That was the most moving video ever.
I had that experience of doing BJJ and Judo at the same time as a white belt in both and the affect on both martial arts is just mind blowing (Still a white belt though hehe)
I'm following your path with about 9 month delay (and I'm not competing). So far I like judo better than wrestling. I'm not fast nor athletic so I prioritize techniques over speed.
Wrestling and judo have great synergy!
Judo is wrestling in a jacket. Do judo for awhile then go train and learn from some wrestlers or vice versa.
You will see how they are so similar.
Judo has adopted wrestling moves and wrestling has adopted judo moves at the highest level.
@@rns7426I'm not professional but looks like you should stand very low in wrestling and tall in judo to get advantage. But might be some similarities exist.
Just subbed, thanks for showing off the wrestling side of bjj
I started judo after becoming a bjj black belt. It's helped my bjj immensely, obviously the stand up, but also I'm harder to sweep. The key breakthrough was also using foot sweeps to set up the takedowns. I'm a brown belt now, going for black soon.
I trolled you a long time ago for not knowing Judo...good job!!!!
I first wrestled in HS before starting bjj later in life. No-gi came quite naturally to me given my background however I struggled a bit in the gi. I didn’t really know how to break grips so a lot of my takedown attempts in the beginning were just stymied by people stiffarming me with strong lapel grips. So I think, at least for the gi, judo is a really good complement particularly for learning how to break and establish effective grips. I’ve been working with a few judo guys at my gym and now I’m interested in learning more judo! All that to say, wrestling and judo are great complements to both gi and no gi bjj.
Yeah I remember back when I first started judo they had just banned double-leg takedowns, then a few years in they took out single-leg unless you start with a throw. This disappointed sooooo many judokas because clearly it was prioritizing the aesthetics of throws while watering down the actual art and its self-defense components. I strongly believe that judo gyms should still teach/train the leg takedowns beyond competition.
True. Martial art should remain that, not become a sporty game
Hell yeah, bro 🥋👊
My friend has a 5th degee black belt in judo, taught by a master from japan which made him bettef at it...He told me, aikido has gone by the wayside, so I wouldn't be surprised if he said it's the same w/ BJJ and jiu jitsu...He moved to another country, so I may never know ?? He showed me one of the best judo throws and I threw him the first time w/ NO MOMENTUM from him...He landed about 6 feet off to between the side and forewared...It's control the arm by grabbing his wrist, grabb under the arm pit, ( not the gi ) move in w/ the hip and push into the person and than just throw...He taught me tall people, can throw harder and cuz I'm 6'2", it "MIGHT" be why I threw him so far...He was actualy a bit stunned, as if he was never thrown so far in sparing and training ?? Nobiggie...He also taught me, there is ONLY ONE form of Judo for sport and self defense...Thing is, he also use the best form of karate, a 3rd degree black belt in shorinji ryu, karate, a 1st degree black bellt in full contact TKD, was proficient in boxing and was a pro kickboxer and was the real deal, legit hardcore pro an no NON PRO UFC whimpiness, for example...He started his training, etc at age 5 in 1976 to 2003...He had to beat 4 guys at his rank which they didn't hold back to achieve all of his 9 black belts and all other colors...That's the legit way to achieve belts...Thing is, all he needs to beat about anyone, is shorinji ryu karate...It's sweet...A karate guy told me, my friend could accidentally put anyone in the ICU, w/ only his 3rd degree...No heavyweight pro boxer has ever put anyonei in the ICU at full force...Food 4 thought...He also said, his 8th ( no typo 8th ) degree black belt sensei in isshinryu karate COULD NOT stand a chance against my friend...He said in a silly way, yet tried hard to make is point well, that my friend is a machine an unstoppable robot, and his first comment he made, was it's NUTS your friend does shorinji ryu...He literallly said, NUTS...Think about that for a moment...He's right, cuz many say it's too dangerous to teach and use and it's based on kung fu, a high degree of prescision, speed, timing, power and distance...He used the most powerful punch, the okinowan punch...He lifted weights and used a russian strength training system and he worked out w/ 400 pounds bench and the karate guy said, cuz he was very strong, it made my friend even better at fighting and I KNOW he was...At only 160, he said, he'd KO, or flat out beat the best strongest heavyweights in the UFC, but not in his real deal hardcore leagues...He taught me, UFC guys train no mor than 6 years for black blets, if they use a belt using system and I know that seems wrong, but cuz of he legit hardcore, pro skills he knows it's the truth...He watched the start of a UFC match and under about 7 seconds he said, that's NOT HOW YOU fight, and I could easily beaat thosed guys....My point is, all he needed to use was shorinji ryu karate and his 5th degree black belt in Judo is a MONSTER bonus in fighting....Same w/ his other 3 forms of fighting...I heard judo is the best for not getting taking off your feet ?? I also heard of a 90 MPH ( NOT sure ?? ) judo throw....At his LEGIT PRO level, size meant nothing to him and would OBLITERATE the over hyped, cocky connor Mcgregor in his prime....It wouldn't even be funny to see that happen...More, but not needed...Food 4 thought !! God bless :):)
Nice video!!!
Would love to see you take a 3-month full-time internship course in Kodokan, Japan. It includes a hostel and 2 meals a day. Condition: train every day, thrice a day, 7 days a week. Your judo will be better than most in the world.
Woah that sounds intense. Who would I contact for that type of thing?
lol if you don't have any ranks in judo, you're forced to take the beginners program, the first month of kodokan training has you slapping the mats and doing useless things.
@joshbeambjj you can enroll via the Kodokan website's form.
LETSGOO KEEP IT UP WITH THE JUDO
well I'm doing Bjj 4 times a week , thanks to this video I'm starting wrestling tomorrow on the days I don't train jiu jitsu, thanks man ( I was struggling to decide wether or not starting, well I'm hyped now)
Dude that’s awesome! Great to hear. Thanks for watching!
My opinion. Most valuable from judo to bjj is the grip fighting. I always explain takedowns in training as wrestling with gi. utilizing the pant and sleeve grips. -12 years as black belt
Sick, as a purple belt myself, my stand up sucks, I get some foot sweeps here and there, or ankle picks but definitely want to implement some more Judo.
I like to think it’s the nominal unnoticed gains you’ll forever having spent the time learning it.
Awesome stuff, adding a comment for the algorithm.
Welcome to the “club” 🙂💪. Striking next
I haven't even watched the video yet, but I already subbed for that Nietzsche tattoo.
That double where you just ran at the guy full tilt and got choked was absolutely hilarious
But if it worked I would’ve gone down as a legend…
@joshbeambjj "man pulls off worst shot for double leg in history. Opponent fumbles easy stuff, doesn't sprawl, doesn't down block, and loses match in most embarrassing upset since craig jones beat beat gabi garcia in cji 2024"
Exactly that. Legendary 😂
Two steps backward are often needed to raise potential. Great video.
I’m a BJJ purple belt too. I’m 44 yr old, 5’5”, and 175lbs. I do primarily no-gi. I did Judo for 2 yrs starting in 2020. It was brutal on my body and I didn’t really do gi BJJ but judo is Gi only. I should probably get back onto it now. I’m far better now 😮 I was but now I have a bum knee. Anyways judo is so helpful if you learn it and apply it correctly.
Pla explain why you got sweeped in judo class in an orthodox kuay thai stance bit not in a unorthodox Muay Thai stance
congratulations and welcome to us men who stand their ground😂
I gave up on BJJ as a 40+ year old due to an egotistic BJJ gym owner. Thanks for reigniting my flame to roll again bro. You inspire me man, keep it up bro!
Ah man sorry to hear that, but glad that’s behind you! Humbled I could help reignite the flame 🙏 Thanks for watching.
I saw some really nice sweep and throws, you are traveling in the right direction. Continue with the wrestling and judo experiments and you will reach your goals.
And don’t forget that it’s really hard to throw a trained grappler, try your techniques on a civilian every now and then 😉
I competed as well, I got promoted at Gi Worlds from blue to purple, had a fun time and definitely used my wrestling. Unfortunately, not a ton of guys left at Masters 6 ultra, just my buddy Paolo. Looking forward to 2025!