I Changed How I Throw ROUNDHOUSE KICKS
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- I recently came up with a new way to teach roundhouse kicks.. but did I invent it? I guess we will see! I came to my Muay Thai coach Josh Brackett to see if the way I was teaching Roundhouse Kicks had ever been talked about before. I used examples like Bazooka Joe, Buakaw, Stephen Wonderboy Thompson and Jeff Chan as examples for this Roundhouse Kick phenomena! Enjoy!
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@@Elsa-rq2ty omg... its really him 😨
Sylvie von Douglass did a technique vlog
With a lumpinne champion can't remember which using this lean in to fake the timing or feint the middle kick instead of what seachai does by fainting the hip movement. But that used to feint so your leg is safe😁
i still think karate and teakwondo kicks are better for the head (faster)
what do you think?
(and no offens)
do muy tai kicks work for leadleg kicks?
Wow that Jamaican sprinter seems talented. I hope he wins 100m and 200m at three consecutive olympics
Maybe even breaks some world records?
@@SenseiSeth oh that would be sick.
🤣😂
That last kicker you showed (after bazooka joe) should probably think about fighting in k1 too..
😂😂
Oh wow you're gonna really revolutionize muay thai man. This detail is what is holding them guys back.
Pretty much already did
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Is that Icy Mike being sarcastic/jealous because you noticed something he didn't? 🤔😅
@@Jenjak pretty much
Yeah well he's just good like that Mike.
This is like something Chong Xie (One of Zhang Weili’s trainers) said in a podcast we did, but with far fewer uses of phrases like “fascia” and “silk reeling strength” and “glute dominant vs quad dominant” and “gripping with the foot”.
It’s interesting how you notice the details of how movement is vs how movement is taught. Nice work Seth!
The Coach!
Hello Mr. Dewey..how is it going
The crossover between fightsport channels & creators is amazing, you rock Ramsey
Well. This is a easant surprise. It seems you have noticed it too so it is something to ponder on
Can everyone just back off? I saw him first!
The way I usually explain the roundhouse kick is as follows: You imagine the foot of the kicking leg is glued with a bit of sticky chewing gum to the floor and you pull out the foot with your hip. This forces one to open the hip during the kick and automatically emphasizes the pulling, since the other leg becomes the base.
Dude that's a game changer holy shit.
Very similar! I tell my students to imagine they are pulling their foot from a tar pit.
That's actually brilliant, wow
thanks analogies like that are super useful I get it now
This explanation better outlines the mechanics of this kick. Obviously with the forward momentum and small step, planting the foot, opening and throwing of the hip and leg with a sudden exhalation to help generate explosive power from your core to unleash a devastating kick with the counter-acting forces momentarily pulling the top half (shoulders/arms) in the opposing direction..
then the non kicking foot will automatically be assisting in propelling weight forward if your technique is good.
Basically, I wouldn't want to try and specifically train what this video is going on about.
"Before I learnt the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick...After I learnt the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick" - Bruce Lee
I'm thoroughly confused
@@kbanghart it’s a famous zen/Chen Buddhist phrase.
But is- before I learned zen, a tree was a tree and lake was a lake, after learning zen...ect ect
Bruce lee just quoted a bunch of zen/day/famous proverbs and didn’t reference them.
Bruce lee talked a whole BUNCH of crap...its STILL getting quoted...
Exactly.
I think what bruce lee meant is the so many names for things so many styles so many waste of time and at the end of it I punch is I punch and kick is I kick
When I was trying to learn muay thai kicks, my years of snap-kick mcdojo karate threw me off and I couldn't get my leg to carry all the way through very well with just the right foot. Then I felt how much my body pulled through the rotation when I stepped out to the left and pulled with my toes all the way up to my groin to generate power. Really cool to see Seth notice this because it's literally the step that unlocked my kicking power
My instructor actually taught me this way. He said something along the lines of "use the cheat step as if you're about to sprint through the bag" as a way of creating forward momentum and putting your body weight behind the kick.
In boxing it's called telegraph that's a bad habit
A trained fighter can pick up on those and it usually spells ko
@@dnice583 hi random guy that only knows about boxing, a kick even if you try not to, is always obvious so it's always either hidden behind a barrage or punches or you don't really commit to it and it's a distraction
@@besto5486 not true, u can set up kicks just like u set up punches. Lyoto Machida did that exact thing to Randy Cotuir
Check out Machida crane kick
As a 15 years long karate practitioner I did the pulling all the time but never though of it. This shows to me again the difference between a practitioner and a teacher, that such a detail is kinda like in my movement but I didn't knew what it was, this is kinda crazy to me. Great video Sensei
I was introduced to the idea of pulling into kicks with Taekwondo. It’s how we set up a step in back kick. You actually pull yourself with your stepping leg and rotate and kick on the end. You can really feel your weight go into it.
Yup that would be my experience with it too. This is why TKD does so many stepping kicks, or at least when I was training. :P
Yeah i saw some oldschool tkd footage where they do that and i got inspired by it too
What about roundhouse? We are taught not to move the front leg first, because it's a tell. So when I want to hide the kick I start with hips, then push with the kicking leg and the front leg is the last. The kick functions like a whip. It isn't quite as hard, but much faster.
@@petertapola8097 you can still pull with the front leg, it doesn't actually tell that much if you don't take a huge step with it. Plus, if you set the roundhouse up with other motion you can obscure that too.
Always remember seth hates tkd
I love this, it just further demonstrates that martial arts require the entire body. Met a bunch of body builders and newbies emphasize tricep and chest strength for a punch, and while that it is important, it completely ignores the punch is in reality a fully body movement. The kick should be no different and would take a lot of advantages from engaging many portions of the body, regardless if we notice it or not.
Yea anybody who says tricep and chest for a punch can’t fight 😂😂
This is probably a gross oversimplification but the way I explain that to those types is that you don't punch with your arms, you punch with your ass.
@@nomchomsley854 That’s AMAZING and I love your explanation!😂 We all need to use our asses MORE!
@@nomchomsley854 it’s true tho, arms were tired but not as sore as lower back quads and ass
Man I would love to see josh and wonderboy spar feel like that would be like the clash of Titans 😂👌
whoever learns the roundhouse pull trick first wins
I was taught this in Goju Ryu but you're right most people don't teach it but I think they do it instinctively.
Sylvie von duuglas has videos where the Thai legends she trains with teach the importance of the standing leg. Meaning you have the eyes of a golden age lumpinee champ!
Ooo which video?
Yes, first time I learned this was from her a couple of years ago....
Anyway, getting the sprinting mechanics into it is a great add on for training
@@MyCommentsRMaturelol There's quite a few. Just look her up and add "standing leg". You'll find a bunch.
That channel is a treasure trove
Love that guy, has alot of good material!
I’ve been doing this since before you were born. Never had anyone talk about the leg pull. Great work!
Thank you!!
The way you described the similarity with Kali techniques at 1:56 is really cool! I noticed the way Kali uses their elbows is also similar to traditional Muay Thai elbow strikes, but I never saw the kick connection before. The Southeast Asian martial arts really cross-pollinated each other in more ways than one. Really cool video, and a very fire kick!
Oh that’s sick!! Thanks a bunch 🙏
The proper body mechanics are universal, even if some schools lost them along the way.
You're right! Running is considered a pulling movement and managed by the posterior parts of the leg.
It's interesting how we first learned this concept in both TKD and Kyokushin. It wasn't even directly taught to us, we just observed our senseis and masters do it, and what we do is that we try to match the power of our senseis on the bag. And how most of us achieved that is by pulling our bodies/weight to the front with the kick, as you have done in this video.
Sean Fagan does a great turorial on this too!
Hmmm... does he mention the foot pull?
@@SenseiSeth he does not, you're still safe good sir!
Heck yes
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is sean fagan like shane fazens evil cousin?
So happy to see this. I figured out this little detail about a year ago. Of course, I’m a nobody so I’m not trying to make a claim to anything, just confirming that this does in fact improve kicking. I found that learning to pull yourself into a round kick makes them 1) faster, 2) more powerful, and 3) easier on the hips. I find guys, especially newer students, tend to swing their leg out too much which puts a lot of stress on the hip, especially if you’re out of shape. Throwing a round kick by pulling into it with the lead leg tends to “tame the arc” a bit and make it more direct. @SenseiSeth, like you, I haven’t heard or seen anyone else teach this. Hats off to you for figuring it out. It was a game changer for me.
Every tutorial video I’ve seen on the roundhouse incorporates this…almost every. They always say it’s one of the most important parts that people ignore
I was always taught in kickboxing that this was called “eat the earth” and it was like the motion of jaws closing to drive power through the kick. Push off the back, pull with the front. Eat the Earth. 🏴☠️ Very theatrical, but illustrates the point.
Watching this and all of the sudden “OH I do that! That’s the thing” so it’s nice to know that is right
Yup, I've explained it using a whole essay of words and while that may be more detailed and "better" just saying it as a pivot, grip, and pull is so much more efficient and understandable to both the newer folks to more advanced folks.
SSeth, That is one of the most enlightening observations/explanations of kicking mechanics I've heard/learned! Keep 'em coming...great vid!
Back when Contender Asia Muay Thai was shot in Singapore. I had the privilege to actually watch a prime Yodsaenklai train and kick the heavy bag. Watching him kick changed my own way of kicking. Yod is probably one of the hardest kickers in Muay Thai ever. His technique is beautiful, technical and violent.
This is how I was taught by my karate instructor. The turning foot was always emphasized with the twist push and pull. This is how I also teach any round kick
Hey Seth! I am a chiropractor and we use an analysis called the gait cycle. I would recommend you check it out as it may help you understand the mechanics of what you are trying to convey. If you take the cycle and add the forward pull and rotation you are essentially breaking down a roundhouse. You can also take a similar pull mechanism to increase the power on your front kick. It’s important to not only recognize the muscles causing contraction, but also the muscles contracting that are slowing down and counter balancing the opposite side. This is essentially the method I use to teach my students the kick. I may change the wording, but it helps explain the method. Great video man!
YO Sensei Seth!!!! You killing it out here with these tiny details that make huge difference in power and energy efficiency. Well done well done!!
That slow motion of Usain Bolt just floating through the air, not even letting his heels touch the ground was *chef's kiss* brilliant, and really leant legitimacy to your observation.
Power always comes from the ground up. Good observation. I always teach that the small step off is the most important part in the power of the roundhouse. Not only does help generate power and open the hips but it makes your kick go beyond the centerline of your opponent so that you always kick through no matter what just because of that one small step.
Good stuff guys! Funny enough, I've been kicking like this for the past few years, but never actually thought actively about the pull until I started really digging into Japanese Swordsmanship. Sensei always reinforces pulling ourselves into a cut/thrust by way of the front leg.
That's great ! I've been thinking about this for a while. I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who thinks that way, and even Karate and Muay thai people can see the importance of pulling the body with the front leg to optimize the striking power.
To be honest, I think the detail is actually very important and I have not heard from anyone else including myself mentioning it for as long as I have been teaching.
Thank you Seth.
I taught this exact detali to a friend of mine a few days ago. I used to train muay thai, also did karate.
Something my coach told me that goes kind of in that direction is that my rear hip should overtake my front hip. That way you really drive into the target while you turn without just focusing on spinning.
i love how humble you always are bro. So much experience and skill but still humble. respect
Outstanding! Almost all kicks are from a sprinting posture. Moreover, we also teach to eliminate the false step with the lead leg. This is also taught in all runnning sports. It's a telegraphic & wasted motion. Kick as if you're out of the track blocks & push off of the kicking leg driving the knee up as if sprinting, finish the kick by comnpleting the pivot. Now you've just eliminated one motion & are thast much faster. Power is speed times mass.
Lol I do my roundhouse kicks like this but I never thought there was anything special about it.
I think we stumble upon it by accident
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I just realized that I do this, but certainly have never taught it! Great observation!
Right?? Thanks!!
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Thank you dude. Because I've been wandering about this all year. Very great tutorial.
seth this is a great analysis! thank you, this will really help when practicing
i'll give you a scoop for a kick technique nuance that really nobody talks about
jack dempsey's falling step but applied to kicks
combine with back foot push and front foot pull and you'll get hours of fun and technique research and practice
Thanks for letting us know of this new way!
Thanks for watching!
THANK YOU! I've been toying with my front leg / foot on the roundhouse for the better part of a year trying to put my finger on this! I noticed every now and then I would get a lot more power seemingly randomly. I tried changing what angle my foot was at, bringing it closer in, stepping further out and everything in between but it never occurred to me just to pull myself thru with it! Next time I'm at the gym I'm gonna nail it!
I've always naturally done that over pushing off with the kick. I'm glad you threw some explanation to it so I can understand it better and change the variety of how I throw
Yeah, this foot rotation/pull has been basic to my King Fu classes from the outset. It holds true for side kicks as well. Pull in and rotate that foot to time it on impact and you'll hit *so* much harder.
One of my favorite moments in a trailer is for Entrapment where Sean Connery says "Rule number 1, how do I know you're not a cop?" It's the commercial editor's fault but I love it.
Hahaha Sean and I are essentially the same.. but then again I guess that means I’m the same as the editor too
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Oss! I can definitely see and feel the difference with this detail
This is exactly what I have been looking for. I'm 2 months in to kickboxing, and I couldn't figure this out. Thanks man!
When I saw this title I was like “DAMN IT!” because yesterday I bought one of your kicking courses but it’s all good because that focuses on front leg kicks and this was a rear leg kick 😂😂😂
Hahaha well you still would’ve seen it anyway! 😂
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There is still a plant push which serves a similar function in any non retreating front leg kick, it is what keeps you able to produce any kind of force through the contact
Damn I gotta cop me one of those
Do it 👀
This helped me alot been training muay thai for around 4 years and never focused on this. today when hitting my bag by focusing on driving forward off my lead leg a i hit way harder. this whole time i was kinda just limp and stationary on my lead leg. and had my rear leg doing all the work. this isn't only more powerful but more efficient i wasn't as tried throwing them.
My muay thai coach in university went all of this, but i just followed instruction and never really applied the thought of his methodology. As i started picking up training again 2 years ago, his teachings made more sense over time to improve my kicks. And essentially exactly as you said in this video.
You are amazing anyways 👍
Thanks? Haha!
0:40 I thought my phone was lagging lol
Whoa. Love the sports science founded yet instinctive explanation. 👍
There used to be a show that shows the step forward pulling with the front leg as the back leg pushes off allowing the full force to generate for the boxers punch. That was the only time I heard of a front leg being called a “pull” but most will tell you to step forward and at an angle to lead you in that direction so pretty much same thing just without calling it a pull. That was years ago and never thought about it nor have I heard anybody calling it pull. Now that you point it out it makes sense and this allows us to focus more on the whole picture and really put it all together. Awesome job!
Nothing new, just the difference between kicking with step and kicking from the spot
Sensei Seth... great video. This one was personal. Im right where you were. After 45 years of karate a jumped into Muay Thai. Same struggle
My instructor touched on this the other week and he started doing marshal arts in 1968 in Vietnam with the ROK and other styles . Nice to see other people pointing that out
This is a great detail that i havent noticed or seen or heard before... i think we take for granted when you open/turn the hips its doing something with the lower body... this is making it more specific to generate more speed when you do that... i have noticed that when i focus on creating a "whip" through my body, i dont micromanage the movement and it generates a ton of speed. i can feel that plant and turn is stronger when i do that... thank you! i can now make this stronger 😁
Great Video, I am a Taekwondo instructor and this is how we teach the round kick as well. The pivot of the front foot is one of the most important components, and because we focus on kicks so much we definitely explain that portion. The is a summary of how we describe it. 1. In a fighting stance with your left leg forward you would start by driving your shoulder forward. This creates tension for the power. 2. The right leg comes up to the side bent at the knee. 3. Throw your left shoulder and right arm to the right (push-pull), while simultaneously pivoting on the ball of your left foot and locking out that kick. This is the same way that "Wonderboy" did it in your video. Thanks for sharing your videos very enjoyable and informative!
Love all the different types of kicks everyone has what they like.
Man your videos are so great, so much improvement since I saw you for the first time on Icy Mike´s Chanel!
good detail for power
excellent detail for pulling off convincing roundhouse feints
it's the little springing and gripping from the front leg that really sells the idea of a roundhouse - versus the hip twist feint being a drop cross or uppercut
Wow! This gem made my kick 10x more powerful when I focus on it!! Thanks!!
Looking forward to trying this out!
Ever since you pointed this out in another video, I can't unsee the pull on a proper round kick. Good catch, Sensei!
That's super interesting, I've never heard or thought of that... gonna have to try it out tonight!
That was insightful. I haven't thought of teaching it that way... I refer to like kicking a ball for beginners. Then adjust the hips and bring the leg higher. And again thank you. Everyone learns a different way and this adds to help me teach!!!
boom technique practice time i thought of this a while ago and thought i was crazy and then also i noticed in this video why my kicks are more telegraphed then needs to be so i will train it from now on like this. thanx for the vid.
Valid !
Nice observation.
This is great stuff! I have shown my students this before, so you’ll have to eat that kick! I will say you’re the first person that I have seen work emphasize it on RUclips.
Sensai seth,,,please kindly...invite sifu Paul vulnak. ...public demand
Omg, this was a revelation I had a while back that completely changed and improved my round kick.
This is similar to how I was taught the roundhouse in Taekwondo. My instructor always emphasized a sprinting motion as you raise your knee, and move your body over your front leg, as you would when running (knee being raised straight towards opponent for a snap kick roundhouse, but still pulling concept applied). This analogy is how we taught students to stop leaning back away from the opponent and to get power making an offensive aggressive strike.
I stumbled into this observation a few years ago while studying kinesiology, which led me to the concept of core sling systems- in a nutshell, core muscles operate in tandem with each other and with the large muscles in the legs in diagonal, spiral patterns of action. The sling system in this case is the posterior oblique system- When walking and especially running, the opposite glute and lat store and rebound energy and mutually reinforce one another. Swinging the top arm back (extension) recruits the opposite glútes (extension) with more juice and vice versa. So starting a roundhouse kick with that pull is hip extension, and combining it with the arm swing recruits more core muscle for rotational power and stability. The pull helps to trigger this system and put it to work in the kick.
Thank you for sharing this refinement. That one adjustment made an instant improvement in power and form for me. It was something I use in Western weapons based styles but never made the connection to kicking.
Seth, you're like the Jackie Chan of martial ats YT community. You're hella funny and you do your own stunts too. The edits are just cherry on top. :)
Awesome observation! I never thought about it like that. I do usually think more about the rotation of my standing leg than just my kicking leg when throwing a roundhouse, though.
Good breakdown of the mechanics
As I've said before proper movement is the key. You're correct the power comes predominantly from the pulling toe.
In a particular style of silat there is an exaggeration of this transition for the express purpose of creating usable torquing or rotational power.
Well done.
Not many pros even comprehend this.
Very well done indeed.
I train with IMBA Finland and one of the first things we focus on with our round-house kicks is the outward diagonal step with the lead leg, followed by the rotation of the lead foot which in turn starts the hip rotation. Great observation Seth!
It’s always a good thing to have different ways to know how to do roundhouse: TKD, karate and Muay Thai
I just never tought about it... It's kind of instinctive when you train the right way.
But it's a pretty good detail to fully understand what is generating power to your shots
Good content bro, keep up the good work.
This actually helped me. Thanks man!!!
I’ve always been taught to spring from heel to toe on your lead foot. As you step 45 degrees, your momentum carries you the same direction as you raise on the ball of your foot. The pivoting of the front foot creates speed and power.
Really nice! I'm right now in my sportsroom watching your video and trying exactly your details in the roundhouse-kick. Right now.. im really out of balance when i concentrate on the pull - because the kick gets faster - but i'm looking forward to work it in the routine. Greetings from Germany!
I love this technical education style of teaching!!! Great video!
Thanks Blake!
I think your point is definitely valid. There's some merit to making a separate video showing certain drills that will allow you to focus on that particular movement so people can improve their roundhouse.
Yes yes, i noticed it too when i was relearning to do Muay thai kicks coming from a ITF Taekwndo background that small step was the hardest to throwing the properly I was so obsessed with it.. my teacher kept doing it and it kept grapping my attention
Good eye, Sensei Seth! I have seen that before, for sure. However, it's still really cool to see others mention it.
Good work man, something I never thought about
I am a person with almost zero martial arts knowledge, and I was THINKING THAT THAT WAS HOW YOU SHOULD THROW IT. The "push off with the leg you´re kicking with" did indeed give me a second to think, but seriously, the thing I was thinking about first was the front leg.
My karate teacher taught me this more than 30 years ago. It does not seem very new to me. But I like your videos. The "If Every Martial Arts Style was in the Same Room" was hilarious.
Great video. I've had to give up on most kicks that turn on the balls of the feet for now -- I've fought chronic bursitis in the balls of my feet for four years. It is what it is. Great videos. Keep them coming.
I saw this video twice and I laughed because I thought it was stupid. I just had two muyai Thai classes and gave it a go just to test it and ohhhhh boy this is definitely a key aspect for generating those hard powerful kicks, thank you!
I really love the break down of this kick and the little extra small attention to detail definitely will make the kick more efficient. I look at it like a fast car in order to get it from o-60 really fast you need high torque and acceleration but you also need high friction. Focusing on accelerating with the front leg when you have the most amount of friction will allow you do drive through the kick even stronger. Very good Sr very good.
Incredible attention to detail!
It's funny that you mention kali because the only other place I've heard this brought up is Kali Center and he explains by comparing it to a angle 4 strike with sticks. This video definitely went into more detail and I get the concept better now. Thanks for the great video.
This might be a game changer for me.... Thank you Sensei!
Always good to see an expert getting into creative observations