CANON EOS R REVIEW vs A7III
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Canon EOS R Test Vs Sony A7III
The Eastcore has the Canon EOS R. We test the EOS R with a Hands On review of the Body, Ergonomics, AF, Features, and Video Modes. Is it enough to make us switch back to Canon? Do Sigma Lenses work on the EOS R?
Shot using the A7III, no picture profiles, auto white balance, no colour corrections, no grading, no overthinking.
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Firmware update made the eye focus work in burst or other drive modes too. Video works as well.
I simply want a Canon body with Sony guts.
I'm a Sony guy, that actually sounds great lol
That's why I am having such a hard time choosing between these two
Stay away from them Sony shutters though
@@TheOlJWShow it's just the a7iii, the rest are good lol
Probably the only video I could watch all the way through comparing these two cameras. The different people vouching for different features really gave us the full gamut of opinions which is something a lot of videos are lacking. Thanks guys !
I'd love to see an updated version of this video after the canon software update
Good review that tells pretty much everything needed. I waited for this EOS-R but decided to go a7iii when I saw that this Canon camera would not be up to the standards required for my hybrid shooting. And the value simply isn't there in this EOS-R for 2300 USD.
It's because Canon is made in Japan.
Smart move!...........me, I am not even considering the Canon! I am trying to wait for the A7s III!
c marcelin well as they say you get what you paid for.
My friend has the Sony and I’m killing him with my Canon R images. So sad that Sony is far behind canon. They have no plans on releasing a 28-70 f2 lens. As a real photographer, it's in the lens. The body is obsolete in a few, no matter the tech. Sony has a lot of catching up to do. These guys are clwons.
zbestman1 I do video with the 28-70 @ f2. I don't see how Sony is dominant. What lens do you use for video?
I really want to like this camera because its Canon, but I can't lie to myself. The Sony is clearly superior.
Herbert Kitchener Specs dont matter to me. Canon files and colors look better, and thats what matters for my work. Sony has so much hype and ive never been impressed with the work photographers do with their systems
Now sony is the best not because i own one but i use many of cameras i see the sony is what you want
@@FanaticDrummer A redundant argument, Canon has had great colour for a long time. You buy a new camera for new features.
sony ALWAYS has a yellow greenish cast no matter what you do. It can be corrected in post but it is always there.
New features come and go. Lenses are forever.
Very well balanced. I shoot both Canon and Sony and as much as I wanted to buy a EOS R to use alongside my Canon 5D Mark IV I just can convince myself to pull the trigger on one. I will continue to use my Sony A7x's along side it. I am not currently a huge video shooter but I am trying to learn and I see no need to use the Canons for that. Thank very much for the video and I think the approach taken and presentation was great.
I'm a Canon shooter (15 years). Do you use your canon lenses on your Sony or bought Sony lenses? Is it usable for professional work?
The hosts in the comments say they shot this review on the A7III, no profile. Why do people gripe about the Sony's color science? I'm not saying another maker's might not be better...but the people in this video look totally realistic, color-wise. Why is "color science" such a big issue against the Sony cameras?? (not a Sony user myself)
It's one of those oft repeated and baseless sticks with which to bash Sony from Canon and Fuji fanboys along with the body is not as durable or the menu is too difficult.
Because people need something to bitch about these days........unfortunately.
What camera did you use to shoot this video ? Great comparison , thinking of getting the A7r3 I have an old canon 6d but canon don't seem to be keeping up with the competition these days .
Toby Maggs Earlier in the comments section, the host said it was shot on the A7III, no profile, edited in Final Cut.
By the way, I didn't like how small the a7iii was either as my pinky also wouldn't fit. Get the Vello battery grip for $79, problem solved. Mine came the other day and I shot with it today. MUCH easier to hold and feels great now. I always get grips though as I am a portrait shooter and love that extra shutter button. They also make these little extenders for the a7iii for like $50 but I figured I might as well just pay a little extra and get the full on battery grip, its great.
Michael Bell Sony makes that little extension grip for your pinky as well...it’s not cheap but it’s really well made and makes the grip so much better on the A7riii.
When I bought my A7iii I also bought a base plate that extends the bottom of the camera by around half an inch. Now it's basically perfect and the feel in hand is much better than it is without it. No need for a huge and heavy battery grip.
which camera and lens u used to shoot this video
In the description they put "Shot using the A7III, no picture profiles, auto white balance, no colour corrections, no grading, no overthinking".
The way the video shot I must agree that it looks amazing!
Thanks for the video. You did fail to mention the native glass which is the area I'm most exited about. The EOS R is more of a mount launch than a body launch. The native glass is incredible. The new zooms are sharper than any current canon prime at equivalent focal lengths according to Northrup and Co. Can't argue with IBIS, video and DCS gripes though.
Pat Davey Yeah, I agree. I think much better cameras are to come. On Canon’s timeline, of course. But, they are clearly investing a ton of R&D into lens development.
There is nothing wrong with Sony GM. For R so far you have got 4 lenses and actually when I read the reviews most of them are not really that good and have the same old issues: vignietting, astigmatism, not sharp corners, flairing, aberrations and so on...and that’s including the hyped 50mm - go and check it there is plenty of info online now. So the new Canon so-called spectacular lenses are a myth and nothing special.
I loved the video. However, I do find it funny that the dual cards are such a hot topic to Sony users who didn't get dual cards until this generation of camera. One famous Sony Artisan mentioned it and claimed he couldn't work without it...yet he's been working without it for years and never mentioned it. Strange.
I've had a card fail - four to be exact - and it's not fun. So the EOS R, for me, will not be replacing the 5D Mark IV. But I think it will be a great camera for traveling, shooting real estate, family portraits/engagement, and product photography. Traveling on vacation with a $3100 5D4 + lenses is questionable for me so I like that I can be very happy with a cheaper camera that has no loss in image quality. The tilt screen for real estate and product photography is going to be absolutely awesome to work with.
Not a perfect camera. A clever one for sure, as Canon strategically placed it in it's lineup to compete against itself only and not Sony. It's like a 6D Mark II and a 5D Mark IV had a baby that has it's dad's eyes (sensor and better AF) and takes after it's mom in most other areas (design layout and single card slot). Looking forward to seeing a 5D4-level EOS R next year. Hopefully they address the single card and maybe even lack of IBIS.
You can do slow motion in 1080p... 60 FPS (though I’d love 120 in 1080). I don’t ever shoot video handheld... gimbal, monopod or tripod, and use IS lenses. Buy a wide enough lens for the field of view you want. Looking at EOS r for b-cam to my 5D4.
My question is what camera did you shoot this interview with? lovvvveeee the quality
+1
took words outta my mouth..did he ever answer the question here or anywhere?
He's on the A7iii, for sure. He referenced this video in a thread about color: www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4331323
Camera used was the Sony a7iii. I believe we used the sony 50mm f1.4 planar for the sit down/talking parts and for the rest we used sigma lenses (35 f1.4/85 f1.4 and 135mm f1.4)
What was this shot with?
Have you guys figured out if there is a way to modify the sensitivity of the electronic viewfinder engaging? No one seems to be talking about this, but I find that that split second delay of it turning on when I raise the camera to my eye can cause me to miss shots.
We haven't looked into that yet, but we will...
What lens did you use to film these interviews?
Nice comparation. What do you think is the best way to go in comparation with these 3 cams? eos R, Fuji XT4, 5dm4 and 7iii? In therms of photo and video combo in one body cam? I like stills from 5dmark4 the most including colors ooc. But it therms of video I prefer cinematic look (like bmpcc or gh5) thank you very much
I am very interested in the EOS R for my next camera. I am a photography enthusiast and not a pro so one card slot is perfectly fine for me. Also I have never even turned on video mode on my 80D so all the complaining about video performance means nothing to me. I feel this camera ticks a lot of boxes for amateur photographers and that is the segment I feel Canon was aiming for.
Same boat.. I have a ton of canon glass. Only own crop camera 7DII and 80D looking for a full frame and this camera along with the adapters allows me to use both EF & EFS. also the adapter with the built in Vari ND has sold me, do to a disability its hard for me to screw on/off lens filters.
Very well done!Thanks for that. Very well shot and well done overall. Ive been waiting for a comparison like this as I just sold my Canon gear and got an a7iii a couple weeks ago after 15 years with Canon but was still interested in renting the R. As a professional portrait shooter, 8:38-10:36 of the video was all I needed to see. The a7iii is vastly superior in both face tracking and eye AF, thats a deal breaker for the EOS R with my needs. Not to mention the lack of IBIS. I love shooting 135mm on location and shoot video quite a bit. Will be getting that same Sigma 135 and the video without the stabilization was poor. Definitely needs it at that focal length. You just saved me $250 on renting the EOS R, thanks!
Do you have any Canon Lenses for sale?
Already sold it all.
Michael Bell dam, love them canon lenses. Got good money for them I hope.
You may go back to canon after a while. Just sayin'. I've used Sony cameras now for 4 years and although I have gotten good work out of them, I have never enjoyed shooting with them. I find the EOS R a real joy to shoot with.
Bob Hanuman yes I to seriously considered the A7R3 so I rented it along with the adapter for my canon lenses. The camera focus perfectly but after a couple of days I just kept going thru so many menus just to make a small change. And not intuitive at all to point of frustrating.
Canon lineage is in still photography. Sony's is in video. That's why Sony A7III is better in video capability than Canon EOS R. There is no surprise to me.
As an enthusiast photographer, I'm mostly into the still photography (portraits and landscape) and I've invested a lot in Canon glasses over the decade. I'm not sure if Sony A7III convinces me to move from Canon into Sony platform. For me, a camera body is a part of the entire platform. My experience is having great lenses, which I think Canon does, would compensate a little shortcoming in the camera body. In my personal observation, the life cycle of a modern digital camera body is probably between 2-5 years. The life cycle of a professional glass is between 8-10 years if not more.
This is the FIRST un-fanboyish video about these cameras I've seen in a long time. Thank you for that. It's so hard to find those these days ;)
Cheers! Thank you
Great video. What lenses did you use? Thanks.
what camera did you use to record this video?
by far best review i watched on these two cameras and huge help on deciding which camera to get ... sony it is guys.... hope to see more videos from you guys.
Dang, Canon always messing up LOL... It's almost 2019 now and your gonna release a 120fps slow motion in 720p?!!! 720p shouldn't even exist anymore...
You're right! I wonder if it's greed or just some stupid people at Canon!
@@Jazzmarcel its not greed
@@Jazzmarcel No canon doesn't give a shit about your precious video specs, ur just 0.1% of the market. and may i remind you canon m50 was the top selling mirrorless in 2018
It is a professional photocamera, not a professional video camera
Then go buy a one of their cinema cameras or the 1DX mark 2.
Masterful composition and color grading. Well made video lads.
Hey guys loved watching this video. First, what camera did you use to shoot this? Secondly, If you didn't own a Canon camera and you had to decide between the Canon 5d mark iv and the EOS R, which camera and lens would you buy using it for video? Not a Sony please. Finally, what is the best hybrid camera and lens do you recommend for an up and coming wedding videographer?
Do you have to have tattoos to be creative?
I'm the guy in the video that did most of the talking, as well as the editing...I have no tattoos, so... I hope not!
there are accessories available from Sony or Meike for your pinky issue.
Mostly everyone I've been watching say the same thing the video in the R is no good but people like Matti haapoja it's telling everyone in his video the 1080p of the R it's maybe even better like the Sony. Is so funny seeing RUclipsr sharing the same review but everyone have to be comfy but I definitely don't believe Matti. Thank you for the honest review
Look at the comparison from Potato Jet he is sharing the same opinion as Matti
Matti is a clickbaiter who doesn't think his premises through very well. I stopped watching Matti when he made a video about GH5 'problems' that were either easily solved or weren't problems at all.
@@raksh9 agree with you 100%
Hello great review guys, question what lens did you guys use for this video? im impressed
Awesome video! This definitely deserve more views. Greatly shot and edited.
Cheers man. We were a bit rushed, but we spoke truth and put our hearts into it.
i like the set up of this vid... very well done . straight to the point , no filler/ garbage.
The top LED screen shows battery life, setting goes back to DSLR. You guys are insane for ripping on this.
its a nice start for canon, but it is definitely not a camera to switch from sony... unfurtunately sony is way ahead, i think the best they can do is to fix at least the IBIS and dual Slot issue to begin competing... other than that it doesn't worth the switch. I have a lot of canon glass and its frustrating they are too behind...its a nice looking and ergonomic camera but thats it...
I think the same I also have my old canon 6d and I will go for the sony a7lll
What did you use to record this review?
You can also set it up to automatically backup files to phone, tablet or laptop. That should be talked about when you say you want dual memory shot. With that function only having 1 shot is not so big deal. 👍
Only jpgs and not high res so that’s not a backup at all.
what lens did you film this with? crazy shallow depth of field!
from the first second it hits my eyes, instantly awed.
135/1.8
@@SemenShtorkin really, with such an open background?
Looks like something around 35 mm, maybe less, and 1.4 or 1.2 if such a thing exists.
Yes it looks pretty good, I think it could be 35mm something
What camera was the video recorded with? A7III or what?
Great video, the only thing that ticks me is the one card slot issue, did 35mm film photographers had 2 film cameras? I have a 2 card slot camera and the second slot I use it as an extended storage so if my first card gets full it automatically records images to the second card. As long as you don't take the card out of the camera (as removing the card and inserting it to a card reader and back again stresses the card and create the possibility of creating an electrical arc which can and will damage a card) I just leave them in and transfer directly via USB 3 cable which by itself is as fast as any card reader :-) I have done weddings and sweet 16 for over 11 years and have never had a card fail, just avoid removing and inserting the card and the camera will fail far before the card does.
So would it be correct to say you shot the Canon R review on a Sony As 3? Why not shoot the video of the Canon R on the Canon R? Apologies if this is a stupid question.
Great video! Loved how it was set up with the 3 different opinions. I switched to sony for the eye AF, so it's kind of relieving to know that Canons it's not there yet. However I do miss Canons dual pixel AF for video and the flip out screen. I still have a Canon 80d and I still use it for video for those reasons. Can't have it all
This is great. What did you guys actually film yourselves with? The Sony?
Thank you. Yes, we used the A7III, mostly.
If your doing a wedding with this camera surely you would have 2 cameras with you, I know I do, one on each side of me, so one card slot does not bother me, no different to film cameras of the day, cards rarely go corrupt, I have never had one go on me, buy good branded ones not cheep. have 2 cameras not just one. have you heard the saying??? back up back up back up??? wow!!!!! honestly to put this camera down for having only one card slot is your biggest mistake, the images from this camera are stunning and to me that is what matters in my photography not one card slot.
Canon had *the answers to the test* and still [failed] to at least match the key features. If they had, perhaps a better camera than the a7iii because of the grip/feel. [I've learn to appreciate that more] Shame shame Canon, i was rooting for you.
A Sony shooter
Did you guys update the sigma 35mm to the newest firmware? The firmware that at least fixed compatibility issues with 6D Mark II and newer cameras.
Which camera and lens did u guys use to shoot this video ?
One card slot has been on the Sony’s for AGES and they were used by professionals including myself. It’s really not an issue at all. Also Sony May have better frame rates with resolution but the codec is pretty much garbage...don’t nail your exposure properly and you can kiss your highlights goodbye even in log. With ca on it pretty much any other camera you have some grace with that. Sure it would have been nice but i would sacrifice slow 120 slow motion for a better codec to be able to grade the way I and my clients like.
Not entirely sure what you mean by the sigma 35 1.4 not working properly? You mentioned it was dark and the colors were off? Could you compare the canon 35 1.4 vs it at the same settings? I was thinking about getting this as a photos only body to the 1dx ii. I like that sigma lens.. that would be a bad deal.
Did you compare s-log vs c-log? Just wondering?
What camera was used to shoot the video? Looks fantastic . Great video
Thank you! We used the A7III for most of the footage. We're actually not too deep into video, more so photography, so it's great to hear this
@@jamiesondeanlooks FANTASTIC. Did you shoot in S Log and correct. Or which color profile and lens did you use please. Again, looks perfect
@@EdRobles1 hey thanks! We actually shot with no profile, auto WB, and no colour corrections!
Wow - what lenses? It honestly looks great.
@@neural9 thank you! We mostly used the Sigma Art 135 and 50mm lenses for this video
Please tell us what camera you used to shoot the video?
Excellent review. My guess for the poor AF tracking of the canon probably is down to the poor performance of its processor when compared with Sony and Fuji xt3. Fuji's face tracking used to be pretty poor too but with the updated processor the XT3's tracking performance is almost as good as the Sony's.
One of the best reviews ever done, no sugar coating, very candid and spot on! You can all guess the camera I bought after this review. Hint: I take more videos than photos.
Im not gonna buy a separate camera for over 2000 dollars for only casual shoots.
I can already imagine people doing that...
I had issues with rings in the frame and dark viewfinder with the Sigma 35mm Art and the Eos R. After updating it to the latest firmware (2.01), from the summer of 2019, it now works great! Also the new Canon 1.2 firmware changed the eye AF to work better. Would you do a follow up video? With image quality and testing the new fw? :-)
I dont do video with my eos 80d. I probably wont do video with a mirrorless ff camera. I rarely do live view. I am not invested in great glass. I could leave canon easily. I understand that if i wanted to use my efs lenses with eos r. I could, but my reason to go full frame is to get away from the crop factor in ultra wide angle shots. I dont own any L series lenses because my 80d does not resolve thsm as well as it does with efs lenses. Which ff mirrorless is fo me?
I'm right there with you, exactly the same situation. I'm leaning towards the R for 2 major reasons: all sorts of AF options on the touchscreen, and a better electronic viewfinder. The 30MP extra resolution is a small plus. Also I'm looking to expand on my lens collection with the R rather than buying fresh lenses at sizable premium.
How did you find the famed "out of the box" colour science of the EOS R vs A7III (or any Sony)? People seem to go on and on about Canon colour. Suppose it almost doesn't matter when shooting raw, but having to play around in less in post would be amazing.
To be honest, pretty damn close. I think the Canon color thing was way more relevant years ago with earlier dslrs. We're at the point now where all major camera brands are producing comparable color.
Sony still has some zombie looking skin here and there, but it is better. You can correct it pretty fast/easy if you understand color curves, if not, play with the sliders until you get it right. The one thing that I really hated on sony, is recording 8 bit and trying to correct fluorescent looking greens/yellows that can occur around golden hour with grass etc. It usually would fall apart before I could get it fixed.
nice comparison, only concern the shutter close while changing lens is what happen if the dust gathers over time on the shutter.
isn't that worse than just cleaning the sensor. Time will tell. great works guys thanks.
This is such a great review. How do you guys have under a 1000 subs!? I look forward to seeing more content from you guys!
Thank you, thank you! More coming... We're just new to the sharing on RUclips thing;) I took the EOS R on a full shoot today, testing out the WiFi send to phone in place of the dual card slots, as well as more insight into the AF and system logic. We'll be dropping a follow-up video soon!
Been shooting professionally for 25yrs. Never lost a roll of film or a flash card. Crazy how much people are harping on a single card slot. Used smaller cards if you're that worried!
What lens was used with the Sony A7III to film this video.
is this shot with a7 iii? what lens? and pprofile? awesome review
Yes, we shot it with mostly A7III cameras... To be honest, we're mainly photographers and aren't too deep into the video aspect, but we used no profile and mostly the Zeiss 50mm 1.4 Planar
sooo sharp and crispy @.@
Actually the video colors were great.
@@anthonym3051thanks man!
Jamieson Dean ... any adapter mount for the Zeiss?
An amateur that never does pro work and I own a ton of Canon Glass. Up til now I used crop sen cameras 7DII and 80D dabbled with video but mostly still based time lapse. Looking to get a full frame for a while now and because of the adapter I can still use all of my EF S glass and my better EF L glass, which for me is a bonus. I wish it has better burst rate and Servo focusing.
The canon has another lens adapter with a built in Vari ND filter which solves a problem for me screwing on lens filters, I struggle due to a disability this solves that problem. I watched Peter Mckinnon's view point of this camera and he shot his latest short with it and it looked very good.
Nice review. I would like to see a raw comparation at same conditions. I am thinking about changing my 5d mark ii. What do you recommend?
Over the 5DII... Absolutely. The EOS R is miles better in every way. It's like going from a Camry to a Tesla :)
I mean between sony a7iii and canon eos r :)
@@sidrict1000 Ah I see... They are both great, but it really depends on what your needs are. If IBIS, video, and dual card slots are important to you I would say go A7III. If they aren't and you have a collection of Canon glass, go EOS-R for sure.
In 2019, why can we not have a camera that is exceptional at both video and photo? So much sacrifice everywhere. A7III really seems to be the best overall for video and photo but no perfect. This EOS R seems to nail a lot of things but lack important features on both video and photo fronts.
I programmed the track bar for my iso and I used the the touch screen as the joystick works perfect.
what camera was used in this episode?
What was this video shot on? Loving the aesthetics
Thanks! To be honest, we're really photographers who are newer to the video aspect of things (hence the wind noise!) We shot on the A7III, no pprofile. I then cut on FCPX.
Hi. What did use to record this video?
It seems like Canon is feeling out the market with this Camera. If you think of it like this, Compare the Old A7 and A7r to the competition back then, they were extremely lacking by large margins in almost every category. Now look at this first attempt by Canon at a Full frame Mirrorless EVF camera, it falls a bit short but not by very far. When they throw in a second card slot and possibly in body image stabilization then using that camera with the new 28-70 F2 will seem like an incomparable option.
when that happen may sony will have somthing new that you wont be able to live with it... canon's still too far
May I know Lens u guys using in that video scene on the lake? ..
Great video. I noticed that everyone shooting Sony has moved to not using the EVF for the most part. Is that because you find the EVF to be significantly worse or frustrating?
I think it just becomes advantageous to be able to take shots without having to have your camera tethered to your face, tbh. When we first switched to mirrorless, we instinctively used the VF. As we realized that you can get better angles with less effort by using the LCD without any AF penalty and a better interaction with the touch screen, we naturally began doing that more and more... Until eventually we were free of our habits of bringing the camera to our face. Now, we really only use the VF if it's too bright outside to easily see the LCD.
Even though this is a 10bit camera, I’m still inclined to get the a7iii this holiday. Only issue is... should I wait for the a7siii or just get the a7iii.
Wait a bit more and you'll get your answer. By then the price of A7III is also lower. Just a bit longer and your patience will be rewarded...
It's Great to have many opinions and precise highlights from many people in a single video !
can u help me bro??
Great video... but you guys didn't cover the comparison of:
1. LOGs
2.Ability to show rec color for monitoring while shooting log.
3.Usefulness of Focus Guide (better than peaking).
4. Usefullness of filter adapter at this timeline where people will be using more non RF lenses.
5. No mention of mode thumb wheel customization (will be similar ergonomics to Nikons) when you are not comfortable using M-fn bar.
6. 10 Bit 422 (great for green/blue screen shots).
7. Asthetics of footage/skintone rendering in mid-higher ISO (eg. plastic looking skin, natural sharpness etc).
8. Ability to adap EF-S lenses to supplement croped 4K.
The dislike is for missing those, when talking video spec, but not mentioning the practical elements.
Other than that, this comparison video is great!
Noted. Thank you for the feedback, as it gives us an idea of what to cover next.
I agree, but they did cover a ton. The video was already long enough most people probably dropped out before they would ever hear most of those things. I shoot Canon, but their sandbagging is getting annoying.
To be honest, we're not really video guys; we're photographers. This is why our touching on video aspects is limited.
btw. there IS a redundancy option at least for photos. Use the Canon Connect Wifi app and connect it to the camera, you can set it to transfer all the photos you shoot instantly to your phone while shooting. automatically. if you REALLY need a backup, thats at least a little workaround. But also a very cool option if you want to teather photos on a tablet to show it to the client instantly.
MikedieONE I believe thats only for JPEG or .CR3
Can not transfer full Raw .CR2
And will probably drain battery.
None the less, It sounds like a super convenient option for faster sharing. Especially if the .CR3 files don’t have too much loss in dynamic range.
Guys, just a suggestion, you have to check the levels of your audio with all the different mics/interviews. It's all over the place. Great reviews, but audio should be fixed.
Next time ;)
Those in the comments who are saying they could work professionally w/o having dual card slots, good for you! The Sony offers it for a much cheaper price and as a wedding photographer I’d much rather be safe than sorry. Everyone has their preference but I’m always picking the camera that can offer more and check marks most of my needs.
With what was this video filmed? ( what camera? :) )
What was this shot on?
I guess it's better to choose between Nikon Z6 and Sony A7III.
Which is better ؟
Good video, but everybody keeps harping on about the one card slot in the EOS R. While it only has the one slot you can record a backup over Wi-Fi whether two your phone or to a laptop. Have used it for a few weddings and it's worked great. I let the backup go to my phone which allows me to either email or message the client instantly with the images. The plus to this dares I beat the friends and family with their Instagram posts of the clients wedding. So if you use the camera like this the one card slot should not be a big issue.
i wonder what camera and lense you filmed this review??? You look soooo realistic!!!
Guys, for "casual photography" you don't need a crippled $2k full frame camera with hyper expensive lenses ;) You will be fine with a good and much cheaper APS-C or M4/3 camera for the engagement shots ;) It will be a great camera probably in 2022 when they release Canon R III ;)
I guess you could customize the mode dial to only have the modes you need?? Usually the mode dials are full of garbage modes.
I prefer the grip of the sony because it is smaller.. hey this is a mirrorless, if i want a bulky camera, i will just buy DSLR. I dont like the way you have to pull the side if I want to just tilt up & down. And why the hell you would want to change the true wheels with top LCD?
And, single card slot? Even I, whose not a professional will not use only 1 slot after using two slots for backup.
Why would I risk losing my travelling photos? I can't simply just go back to Europe or Japan because of the memory card corrupts right?
What is the video shot on?
First i want to thank you for this review. I'm so curious to know what camera and lense did you use to film this review because the quality is just amazing?
I didn't had any problems with my Sigma 35mm Art on the EOS R at all.
it's a great first try for canon... let's see what the RII brings...
While I'm not planning on dropping my Canon gear, the 6D was the last Canon I bought and they have not released anything compelling since then.
Also canon says the Pro version will be out in a year so gents I reckon chill and see the next rendition
Oh yeah, right. We shouldn't have made this video at all... Should have just chilled instead. Also, Canon never said that specifically, just left the door open for speculation.
So does that make the Eos R the $2300 “non pro” version for amateurs?
Would have loved to get your opinion on low light Auto focus for both cameras.
Low light AF between the two there isn't much, but we're shooting with fast primes, and rarely use zooms.
Which camera did you shoot this video with?
Eric Saulsberry Host said in the comments A7III, no profile.
Pretty much what I concluded, it was a shame as I waited patiently for this Cam I have many great Canon lenses. I should have gone with Sony a way long time ago when the A9 came out. At least waiting has seen good price drops on the A9. There is also some promising results using the MC11 so I can move over easier. I don't think Canon R2 will be any better they don't appear to care much what the competition is doing so I doubt any of the issues with the R will be addressed. They will keep the stupid slider and won't put back the joystick forget seeing image stabilizer in R2 they won't change but want people to change their views instead not really a customer oriented company unlike Sony.
The slider works insanely good to zoom in and check focus. I have a tap on the right side set to reset to Auto ISO. The left side I tap to pull up a histogram.
I think you are making a lot of assumptions here. I encourage you to wait and see. What's another 6 months? One way Canon differentiates products in their line is by adding or removing physical features such as a joystick. I think their next R in the line will have it if priced above the R.
Unless you are a sports shooter the EOS R is a perfectly valid camera. If you need fast action and want mirrorless by all means go with the a9. However once you use heavy lenses the body of the Sony’s can feel mingy and small.
Thanks for the reply guys.. Bob I agreed the camera needs a bolt on battery grip then it's perfect I do have big hands. Mik I'm done with those Canon games taking away and giving features I've been with Canon for a couple of decades and many cameras. The stupidity of it and the only people they really fool is themselves. None of their cameras are competitive anymore anyway for them to preserve neither the 5Dmk4 or the 1dx2 both well outdated they are preserving dead ghosts. For Camera bodies Canon are not even second place anymore they are behind Sony, Nikon and even recently Fuji. This guy explains my feelings well ruclips.net/video/96F4eAWdJ3A/видео.html
nature albums I agree that it is frustrating. But I think theres a bit of hyperbole in your statements. Frustrating or not, I think Canon's business model must be working for them for now-- it's not a company run by idiots. I'm not sure they have lost a significant market share overall (obviously they have in mirrorless), but market share is different than being profitable.
Are the mirrorless cameras just a gimmick?.. why change and then change lenses?..
Great video! I think a lot of people are very caught up with reviewing the camera based on it working for pro use. Yes, I know Sony has it all LOL.. but, this is not meant for that at all. I feel like it's best to wait for the EOS R "pro" which is likely not far away, and then this all makes far more sense. The EOS R at that point will be an amazing backup body to the next Canon they release etc. Frankly as a wedding pro, who shoots.. images, this is really about perfect. Except for the one card slot. But, this is me being a pro, and choosing to want to use a camera because I am excited! It's not fair to Canon to expect pro features on a more armature targeted camera. It's also not fair to expect them to "compete" with Sony on features and price. Just because they want to give away the farm when the market was open.. does not mean it was the smart move for them in the long run.. I think if we give this all another year we will see everything is going to tighten up a lot, and the gaps between the offerings will be almost nothing, and at that point will be based on where your already invested in. The EOS R shows where Canon is going.. and I think this is going to be a lot better than anything Sony has, or will be offering.. I am betting the farm that the next announcement from Canon.. will be insane! But yeah, as a wedding shooter I worry about one card. For the past 6 years I have used a 1DX. and want to get rid of it! Although I do remember a time when one card was all there was (5D, and 5D2) and somehow that was okay :-) I do see that there is an automatic wireless transfer option to smart phone! No one is talking about this, perhaps you can get more subs and views if you do a dedicated video on this ability, and see if this maybe a workaround for wedding work in the field! I have a Samsung S8+ and I can load in a 128gb SD card in my phone, and if the wireless transfer works.. wow! There is a live back up right there! :-) Something to test and fool around with!
Great point about the wireless back up. But as someone who uses the 7d ii and the 80d, I feel the wifi option might still be inconvenient. Moreover it will suck more battery from the camera since you need to switch on WiFi and Bluetooth as well.
Having said that, I am aware that the version of their wifi on the R is slightly different. Let's see.
In my experience though, the in body real time back up is a no brainer at the moment.
Hopefully someone tests this out. If I can procure an EOS R on rent (which is difficult to get so soon on rent in Dubai) then I'll just do it myself.
Travis Harris Photography "Although I do remember a time when one card was all there was (5D, and 5D2) and somehow that was okay :-)" Well, sure, lots of things used to be. Back when digital cameras had only one slot, and something happed to the card, you licked your wounds and moved on. Everyone was in the same boat. But now, everything has advanced markedly and a backup is standard and expected.
Travis Harris Photography "The EOS R shows where Canon is going.. and I think this is going to be a lot better than anything Sony has, or will be offering." Don't you think Sony will be advancing and improving during that time period as well? (I'm not a Sony user, just watching this all play out.)
For sure, good point about battery. I am sure it will be a PITA as you say. It's just a temp. solution until Canon comes out with the pro version.
This is true! But.. still.. even today, (I shoot both photo and video professionally) my 1DX II cant shoot video to two cards.. and.. well, I think my client would be just as pissed off if a card failed with video vs. photos. I hear what your saying, and your right.. but, for video two slots can't even save the day, and this is just as important.