The original idea of a B-17 was that it wouldn't need a fighter escort. If you ever look at one it has guns literally everywhere. It wasn't until later in the war that this idea proved to be ineffective. It's why the B-29 actually had less defensive weapons than a B-17.
And this takes place after the war in Europe and the Pacific are over, so why would an air force still send a hand full of bombers without proper protection across the ocean? Makes not a lot of sense.
@@1337penguinman The B-17 formations without fighter escorts delivered quite some damage themselves but also received heavy losses. Day attacks on Germany were postponed for almost a year until long-range capable fighter escorts were available.
The Axis PoweR Pre-War Japanese "engineering" wasn't exactly a compliment, bro. sure, their planes were maneuverable, but they were also tinderboxes that blew up with one or two hits. their tanks were so thin-skinned heavy machine guns could knock some of them out. Some of their infantry rifles dated back to the Russo-Japanese war, and their machine guns weren't much younger. then there was the issue of how all of their weapons seemed to use different-caliber bullets, and how their pistols were utter crap, and...eh, i could go on.
The Axis PoweR fat lot of good better planes do you when all your skilled pilots are at the bottom of the Pacific, sunk by "inferior" American aircraft and ships... Kinda hard to talk about Japanese "engineering" without talking about ALL their weapons, man. you can't just look at one aspect of their technology and apply that to all their weapons. That a pre-war tank design and weapons like the M3 37mm anti-tank gun were still effective against Japanese tanks all through the war shows how ineffective the Japanese tanks were. look at their tank assault on Saipan, none of the Japanese tanks survived, while not a single US tank was knocked out. ah yes, one of the most powerful Navies....that never developed Radar, put far too many resources into useless giant battleships, and was torn apart by the ships and aircraft of the US fleet. Japan lost the resource and technology war, as well as the manufacturing war.
+Soundwave3591 if you wan to talk about japan you need to learn about how they thinking , japan mainland are 90% mountain or hill that not fit for huge battle for tank or for heavy tank same for asia / island in asia + japan tank were make to vs Chinese which only got few ww1 tank and armor car other asia country don't even had ta(nk + the colony country don't used tank in they colony in asia dual to same reason that the Japanese didn't focus on tank only later In the war the American bring m4 and the british bring they m3grand to asia that out class japan tank lead to japan making chiha 75mm with same class with the m4 and heavyer tank chiho with better gun and armor to vs m26 but the war end befor it been mass build for chiho and chiha was keep in japan + remember one think in saipan the American control the air and who control the air = control the battle = tank attack will get destroy by F4U ,F6 with rocket / bomb + navy bombard from American bb / cruiser / dd it not the tank bad if tank vs tank only japan light tank vs American light tank both side will get the same number of destroy tank lol .about inft weapon japan lack of everything that why they didn't go for semi auto rifle that they test in the 1930s , same to Japanese submachine gun , only in late war more type 100 were make but befor war only marines / special force get to used those type 100 smg dual to lack of rescouse to make gun / ammo for them + japan machigun is one of the best during ww2 they heavy type92 can shot all day with out overheat the barrel and can put behin the hill to loop shot over the other side , type99 light mg great MG light , accurate better then the brens( which the bren is a copy from Czech LMG only abit modifly ) meanwhile the type99 look like but it not the same like the Czech mg ( the france also have the gun that look same but it not the same inside ) + japan rifle are not from 1905 WAR lol
inoue jerry the Japanese were developing tanks almost as long as tanks existed: their first machines were surplus British WWI tanks, and they started their own development program in the early 20's. the Type 89 "medium" was one of the results of these tests. the battle of Khalkin Gol in 1939, where Japan fought superior units of Soviet armor, should have demonstrated that if they intended to face a superior Western army, they needed modern ground assets in strength.
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@@dalvovalos3928 todays Allies might be your tomorrows enemy. Much like Soviet and America I guess Anyways, I’d recommend you watch “the man in the high castle” if you like this kind of content
There is a reason why you get escort fighters. One of them is so they don't get wrecked by interceptors armed with derpy 57mm cannons that would have considerable trouble dogfighting.
The problem is the extreme range. I'm sure the Germans would have provided a fighter escort if they could, but unless it was so laden down with extra fuel tanks as to be useless in a dogfight, no fighter plane of that era could accompany a long-range bomber all the way to the target. If you're attacking Europe or Japan from bases nearby, sure, but a flight from occupied Europe to Japan would never be able to have fighter protection for the whole flight.
The P-51 had a maximum range of 1,650 miles, or 2,656 kilometers. The B-29's, for example, was 3,250 miles, or 5,220 kilometers. So, no, it absolutely could NOT, or at least not if it were flying out of anywhere further away than Okinawa or mainland China, which they did. However, the hypothetical German equivalent would not have the opportunity to do this, as in this scenario I believe Japan still firmly held on to its territory in China and the Pacific.
AutoFox1 hmm when the atomic bpmb was dropped over Hiroshima the B-29 had an escort from 2 P-51 and a weather plane but then they could have launched from islands closer to mainland Japan
I believe they took off from Okinawa, yes. Also, the Enola Gay didn't have a direct escort; the weather planes - also B-29s - flew over something like an hour ahead of time, and the P-51s hung back, which makes sense given the projected power of the bomb.
I watched the first 5 minutes of this alternative history and concluded that the Japanese, (with a dismal record of invention), significantly advanced the state of the art in aeronautical engineering, while the Germans (arguably the worlds greatest engineers and scientists) went backwards..........lol
They're loosely based on them, I think. The wings are moved back on the jets in the anime. Kudos to the animators for taking into account a different center of gravity.
I have just noticed that these "modified" MXY-7's would have exactly the same problems as the ME163 rocket interceptor from real life, in as such they would be going too fast for them to be able to bring their cannons to bear.
i like how these Japanese aircraft isn't just made up but are variants of the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka, which were Japan's main kamikaze aircraft which the long front of the jet is where it holds explosives along with unfortunately locking the pilot in who is manually guiding this rocket to a collision course to its target. great anime! :)
Nope, these are jet planes (in this anime). These fighters have ramjets. The ramjet can starts only when its reach a higher speed. thats what we see in the vid. the original mxy-7has got rocket engine thats true
I've now viewed a number of clips from assorted Japanese air warfare themed animations, and find many of the imaginative aircraft designs are impressive. Many are so extreme, they stretch credibility, while others are just to the "left" of what might have been. The reasonable designs show clear lineage from an existing air frame: the Ohka is clearly the parent of the "Super jets", with enough differences to make them dramatic. One of my interests is production design, and have found there often needs to be a compromise between what an engineer would (grudgingly) accept, and what a director wants to put on screen to capture an audience.
Japan had a larger problem looming in 1945 than America - history is often forgotten but Stalin wanted Japan invaded by Oct 1945 with the intention of beating the American invasion he thought would happen in early 1946.
Stalin might have Wanted to invade Japan. But the USSR lacked the Amphibious capability let alone capacity to invade the Japanese home islands. I will grant that the USSR could capture the port of Pusan, Korea; that would be like the Allies trying to invade Spain from the port of Cherbourg, Normandy, France, a month after capturing it. Look up the MASSIVE Fleet of cargo vessels, not to mention specialized Amphibious landing craft and warships just to cross the English Channel. Two years of preparation. Next consider the Armadas, larger than those used to land in Normandy, necessary to invade Iwo Jima and then Okinawa. Soviet logistics would have to go by train across the Trans-Siberian railroad. Where do they get the ships? Vladivostok? The USSR wouldn't have the capability to invade Japan by October 1965!
@@WanderfalkeAT "some ships" they literally have a better navy then the germans, both during ww2 and we can assume they have a far more advanced navy in the 50s and 60s
Alternate WW2 history always involves dropping some bizarre "yeah you wish" tech into the laps of Axis powers that somehow saves them from the inevitable
Look I'm a bit of a weeb but when I see Japan win against America and stuff in Light Novels and stuff I do cringe a little. Example, Chivalry of a Failed Knight.
From the looks of it, seems like a hybrid Rocket and Jet Interceptor modification of the Ohka suicide bomber. The plane was launch with the help of catapult and rocket engine and then proceed to fly with the jet engine after detaching the rocket engine. This plane would prove to be difficult to land, there could be a parachute somewhere installed on the plane to help with its landing. The armament shows that this plane was specialized in intercepting slow moving target. The gun low rate of fire making this plane unsuitable for dogfighting. If the German had escort fighters these interceptors would have had a hard time intercepting their bomber target.
In this time line Japanese actually have J7W2s which pretty much match 262 tho in show it not actually called shinden if remember it known sorai or something like that
@@nicholaswilson1851 the kikka it isn't 262 it smaller it was very much Japanese in house design it it was Japan first jet to bad day or so after it first test flight it got bomb the J7W on other hand was pusher prop which ad limited number made the was idea to refit them with better version of jet engine on kikka which been cool to see
No they weren't. Those were kamikaze jets. Think bomb with a pilot and jet engine. But they were Japanese. The only Japanese jets used in combat so far
The design of the wings are for much slower planes like prop driven planes, if used for high speed jets they will just tear off and it will fly just like a cannon shell.
The A-10 Warthog uses a similar wing design and the MXY-7 Ohka kamikaze rocket propelled bomber also used a similar wing design, so an early generation jet fighter would be able to get away with a straight wing rather than a swept wing since they would not be going that fast for a jet. They would just have to reinforce the wing to cope with the additional stress , but it would not be in insurmountable problem.
1973Washu A-10 Warthog is one of the few modern planes that went subsonic speed only. As for Ohka, it a suicide rocket-boost aircraft. You does not need wing if it going to blew up right? The aircraft shown above is moving above the speed of sound so swept wing is able to avoid any wings from being ripped when used at supersonic speed. A usual straight wing cannot sustain such drag power from the wind at supersonic speed.
Just found this (2019) and wanted to thank you for posting it. Have never seen this series...really like the aircraft designs....reminds me of a comic series called Luftwaffe 1946 I read a loooonnnggg time ago.
The Japanese were pretty much the Germans of the Pacific. They both had amazing vehicles and some of the best crews, but the allies could outlast them. The Germans and the Japanese just couldn't keep their superior quality up, while the allies could keep a constant quality going. Although in the end the allies crews far outmatched the axis ones, because the allies had more resources to train them and keep a good pace at the same time.
+Wizard 03 most of the ships might be good, but not the carriers, they lacked external venting systems for the hangers. this forced the crew to open hatches to thin out the aviation fumes so they didn't pass out. problem was that now almost the entire ship was a highly volatile bomb waiting to go boom. only other main problems with ijn ships was lack of trained crew among the sailors especially damage control an anti-air defence.....take a look at the fate of the Yomato and its sister ship.
I just read the synopsis of this series. As soon as I read "they easily defeat the allies in Asia liberating the former colonies and giving them back their independence" I was just thinking "Fuck off" with a smile. It'd be all well and good if the main characters that went back in time were liberal scientists and engineers from modern Japan but they're not, they're both imperialist that was supposed to have been killed during the war, a politician and the other an admiral, and despite that, they're conveniently aware of how to make technology that would have been ridiculously advanced even at the time of their deaths and are also staunch anti-imperialists. I'm British, this anime is the equivalent of me sending Montgomery and Churchill back in time and having them just shout "Hang on chaps! We'll quickly show you have to make a nuke, jet engine and nuclear submarine and also about this whole Empire business, we think it's all a bit old hat!" I just find overly patriotic stuff cringy, doesn't really matter where it's from. There's this trope in British TV that occasionally pops up where you have an overly arrogant American being outwitted by someone from Britain and it just reeks of inferiority complex.
This and The Cockpit are kind of weird war shows. It's best to focus on the animation and not the propaganda.......Let's be glad this show was hidden away.
Japan' entire objective in the war was to liberate Asia from Europeans and set up friendly governments in the area, so yes they will set up de jure independent governments, not colonies.
I am American. I am concerned for the creator and supporters of this anime. They are very.... anti everything. Germans, British, Americans, Russians, Etc... I would categorize these animes in the "Racist" category, to be honest.
was Japan who betray Germany IN THE REAL LIFE when instead attack soviet union Japan attack USA, if Germany was attacking Soviet Union so Japan should do the same from the east but not, they attack yankeeland forcing to that fucking country to enter the war, the reason is simple, JEWS MUST TO PROTECT THEIR LOVELY DAUGHTER, SOVIET UNION, never forget that comunism IS THE SON OF THE JEWS, and SOVIET UNION WAS THE DAUGHTER OF JEWS, that is the reason why all the efforts of allies was to protect soviet union, cos ALLIES WAS WORKING FOR JEWS, and this days the entire world is owned BY JEWS, is simple
@@carloko08 Japan could NOT attack USSR... While Germany was busy with their neighbours... USSR was fighting Japan and kicked Japan's ass (Battle of Khakhlin Gol) and then Japan and USSR made a peace treaty...but USSR still had Manchuria surrounded till the end of the war If Japan had attacked USSR they would have been crushed just like before. They were useless against USSR on land and their navy would not be of help
@Sweetbutter Cupcakes Japan was already getting drained in China alone... Japanese army was not as good as Soviet Army.. Japanese navy was good but not their army.. and yes Japanese did signed a non-aggression pact with Soviet en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Neutrality_Pact If Japan had attacked USSR then it would have faced bigger problems by Soviet Siberian divisions...which were sent to German front after some delay (due to fear of Japanese attack).. Japan would have been stuck taking Siberia..
@Sweetbutter Cupcakes This is an alternate reality we are talking about though... Soviets broke the pact and invaded Japan.. But Japanese army was not "roughly equal" Soviet were much more advanced in terms of land equipment than Japanese... Japanese had their navy going for them which would be useless against USSR ... They could not have stretched their forces like Germany did and would have gotten kicked from both China and USSR. Germans on the other hand were losing Stalingrad and D-day as you say "US distraction" came after Germans were getting pushed back. It would have just taken a little longer without USA.
because the writer/designer of this story or anime doesnt know anything about warfare. those bombers were obviously inspired by the USAF high altitude bomber which didnt fly with escorts because they literally flew higher than anything else at the time, including anything that japan had to throw at it. and the interceptor is obviously inspired by japans rocket propelled kamikaze plane which was a poor choice. modifying the shinden would have been a better choice in my opinion although adamantly harder to animate.
apparently, the only way for the japanese to win the war was to have isoroku yamamoto reincarnating 40 years prior his death and lead japan with his knowledge of future warfare. i'm not joking, that's the premise of the series.
The reason Germany probably doesn’t have jet powered bombers in this is most likely because of fuel consumption Early jet powered aircraft consumed a lot of fuel which probably explains why the modified Ohka is used an an interceptor and the Germans are still using propeller aircraft
"Are you ready for your last flight?" "Yes sir, but i just joined the air force yesterda-" "Shut up and go!" And then he explodes because there's a bullet touching the detonation
They wouldn't be aiming, regardless. Spray all ammo into the formation on one pass, glide back down when our of fuel. A wall of lead works just as well as specific targeting. Just requires more bullets.
These heavy bombers were unescorted? Doesn’t add up in this situation. Another question: how are the interceptor pilots dead accurate with every shot??
the heavy bombers would have likely been inspired by the american's late war bomber which was never escorted because they few so high that japan had nothing they could touch them with. and its a fictional story, the hole design of that get fighter is stupid anyways.
@@xxxxCronoxxxx your totally wring they were real designs the fighter is the okha suicide jet and the bomber is the fuck wulf ta400 it was a german super heavy long range bomber project to bomb the usa ( the program was called amerikabomber) theres also similar projects in spain such as the loring b2 fortrena in 1930 six engined super bomber or the japanese j10N fugaku they are similar to b36
There's another question, the X-15 and the X-1 we're use titanium and high quality steel. Japanese poor industrial standards and lack of materials in WW2 was hard to produce heat resistant material to create supersonic aircraft (e.g.:shushui rocket plane exploded in it's first flight in 1945). And normally, large caliber guns produce huge recoil, thus affect flight stability, it may result in structure breakdown( which can destroy the aircraft by itself), vibration( hard to aim and firing next round) , and fatal injury for the pilot inside(when the g-force and the recoil from the gun contact together). So that's why we've don't found any jet fighters exist in post war didn't use large guns with 57mm, they replace it with rockets( soviet was the first user in 1930's, the RS-82 family), missiles and autocannons between 20-30mm.
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Ah yes, sending unprotected bombers into enemy controlled air space, my favorite ww2 tactic
The original idea of a B-17 was that it wouldn't need a fighter escort. If you ever look at one it has guns literally everywhere. It wasn't until later in the war that this idea proved to be ineffective. It's why the B-29 actually had less defensive weapons than a B-17.
And this takes place after the war in Europe and the Pacific are over, so why would an air force still send a hand full of bombers without proper protection across the ocean? Makes not a lot of sense.
@@1337penguinman The B-17 formations without fighter escorts delivered quite some damage themselves but also received heavy losses. Day attacks on Germany were postponed for almost a year until long-range capable fighter escorts were available.
These anime creators clearly have absolutely no knowledge about aerial warfare.
@@brothergunns5055 I'm sorry they're not gay nerds like you
This is what playing a bomber in war thunder fells like
G00NS indeed
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I find it ironic about the Japanese having superior aircraft...when they got their Jet and Rocket engines from the GERMANS...
japanese engineering, bruh
The Axis PoweR
Pre-War Japanese "engineering" wasn't exactly a compliment, bro. sure, their planes were maneuverable, but they were also tinderboxes that blew up with one or two hits. their tanks were so thin-skinned heavy machine guns could knock some of them out. Some of their infantry rifles dated back to the Russo-Japanese war, and their machine guns weren't much younger. then there was the issue of how all of their weapons seemed to use different-caliber bullets, and how their pistols were utter crap, and...eh, i could go on.
The Axis PoweR
fat lot of good better planes do you when all your skilled pilots are at the bottom of the Pacific, sunk by "inferior" American aircraft and ships...
Kinda hard to talk about Japanese "engineering" without talking about ALL their weapons, man. you can't just look at one aspect of their technology and apply that to all their weapons.
That a pre-war tank design and weapons like the M3 37mm anti-tank gun were still effective against Japanese tanks all through the war shows how ineffective the Japanese tanks were. look at their tank assault on Saipan, none of the Japanese tanks survived, while not a single US tank was knocked out.
ah yes, one of the most powerful Navies....that never developed Radar, put far too many resources into useless giant battleships, and was torn apart by the ships and aircraft of the US fleet. Japan lost the resource and technology war, as well as the manufacturing war.
+Soundwave3591 if you wan to talk about japan you need to learn about how they thinking , japan mainland are 90% mountain or hill that not fit for huge battle for tank or for heavy tank same for asia / island in asia + japan tank were make to vs Chinese which only got few ww1 tank and armor car other asia country don't even had ta(nk + the colony country don't used tank in they colony in asia dual to same reason that the Japanese didn't focus on tank only later In the war the American bring m4 and the british bring they m3grand to asia that out class japan tank lead to japan making chiha 75mm with same class with the m4 and heavyer tank chiho with better gun and armor to vs m26 but the war end befor it been mass build for chiho and chiha was keep in japan + remember one think in saipan the American control the air and who control the air = control the battle = tank attack will get destroy by F4U ,F6 with rocket / bomb + navy bombard from American bb / cruiser / dd it not the tank bad if tank vs tank only japan light tank vs American light tank both side will get the same number of destroy tank lol .about inft weapon japan lack of everything that why they didn't go for semi auto rifle that they test in the 1930s , same to Japanese submachine gun , only in late war more type 100 were make but befor war only marines / special force get to used those type 100 smg dual to lack of rescouse to make gun / ammo for them + japan machigun is one of the best during ww2 they heavy type92 can shot all day with out overheat the barrel and can put behin the hill to loop shot over the other side , type99 light mg great MG light , accurate better then the brens( which the bren is a copy from Czech LMG only abit modifly ) meanwhile the type99 look like but it not the same like the Czech mg ( the france also have the gun that look same but it not the same inside ) + japan rifle are not from 1905 WAR lol
inoue jerry
the Japanese were developing tanks almost as long as tanks existed: their first machines were surplus British WWI tanks, and they started their own development program in the early 20's. the Type 89 "medium" was one of the results of these tests.
the battle of Khalkin Gol in 1939, where Japan fought superior units of Soviet armor, should have demonstrated that if they intended to face a superior Western army, they needed modern ground assets in strength.
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Ja Broski huh the gunner seems to have been exploded by a 20mm round that directly hit him
Japanese fighting Germans, on Ōkha aircraft? This looks like War Thunder custom battle servers.
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Aren't they allies?
@@dalvovalos3928 todays Allies might be your tomorrows enemy. Much like Soviet and America I guess
Anyways, I’d recommend you watch “the man in the high castle” if you like this kind of content
Now the realist battles are mixed... a real sh*t!!
There is a reason why you get escort fighters. One of them is so they don't get wrecked by interceptors armed with derpy 57mm cannons that would have considerable trouble dogfighting.
The problem is the extreme range. I'm sure the Germans would have provided a fighter escort if they could, but unless it was so laden down with extra fuel tanks as to be useless in a dogfight, no fighter plane of that era could accompany a long-range bomber all the way to the target. If you're attacking Europe or Japan from bases nearby, sure, but a flight from occupied Europe to Japan would never be able to have fighter protection for the whole flight.
AutoFox1 the P-51 Mustang was able to escort bombers all the way to the target and back
The P-51 had a maximum range of 1,650 miles, or 2,656 kilometers. The B-29's, for example, was 3,250 miles, or 5,220 kilometers. So, no, it absolutely could NOT, or at least not if it were flying out of anywhere further away than Okinawa or mainland China, which they did. However, the hypothetical German equivalent would not have the opportunity to do this, as in this scenario I believe Japan still firmly held on to its territory in China and the Pacific.
AutoFox1 hmm when the atomic bpmb was dropped over Hiroshima the B-29 had an escort from 2 P-51 and a weather plane but then they could have launched from islands closer to mainland Japan
I believe they took off from Okinawa, yes. Also, the Enola Gay didn't have a direct escort; the weather planes - also B-29s - flew over something like an hour ahead of time, and the P-51s hung back, which makes sense given the projected power of the bomb.
史実の桜花は特攻機だけど、このアニメの世界では要撃戦闘機として完成してる。
史実桜花とは異なり機首固定の大型爆弾が無くなっているので、重心位置が後方に移動した分だけ主翼の取り付け位置も後ろにズラした設計になっている。
この世界線では特攻はしないという明確なメッセージを示していると共に、技術面においても、全く現実味の無い蒼莱と比べると手を伸ばせば届きそうな丁度良いレベルに仕上がっていて好感が持てる。
正直に言うと一回くらい敵に勝たせてやれよ。(面白いけど)と思います。
@@陽仁清水確かにwそのせいで外人がマジレスしまくってるw
エセ桜花
より良い負けが出来ていない定期
現実でも戦闘機だったら...。
I watched the first 5 minutes of this alternative history and concluded that the Japanese, (with a dismal record of invention), significantly advanced the state of the art in aeronautical engineering, while the Germans (arguably the worlds greatest engineers and scientists) went backwards..........lol
you could argue that they finaly got their America bomber and went to Japan😉
No no the pilots are high off the jet fumes after front flipping to 20,000 feet
@@obelic71 YEAH and Japanese fighting with Germany like wtf Japan and Germany were all axis countries so why are they fighting
@☀️☢️DEFINITIVO☢️☀️ naah I don't think so
@☀️☢️DEFINITIVO☢️☀️ YEEES LMAO
Those “jets” look almost like those suicide vehicle thingies.
Nimori Kandara they are
I forgot they were but the pilots were called kamakaze pilots
Those kamikaze planes are called "baka" by the Americans
MXY-7 Ohka
They're loosely based on them, I think. The wings are moved back on the jets in the anime. Kudos to the animators for taking into account a different center of gravity.
You'd think of all nations, Germany would have Jet bombers speeding through the sky, but you thought wrong
We meet again. Idk when was the last time I saw you Comrade. Hope your doing well👌
They already made the first jet in real life.
They did. AR 234 for instance.
Didn't expect seeing you here, waiting for your next lego video.
They were making some, one even infamously overflew over normandie as a flex, but only on a recon manner
この桜花めっちゃかっこええ...
I really miss this animation style, it was beautiful and it let your imagination run as wild as the stories they presented.
珍しく「やったか！？」で撃墜されなかったアニメ
むしろ、逃げだそうとした爆撃機を撃墜してる始末。
ヒトラー激オコかと（笑）。
@@月夜のにゃんこ 勇者王な桜花パイロット「光になれぇ!!」
チョビ髭「チクショーメェ⁉」
Funny how altimeter spins like crazy but it still shows 5000 feet.
I have just noticed that these "modified" MXY-7's would have exactly the same problems as the ME163 rocket interceptor from real life, in as such they would be going too fast for them to be able to bring their cannons to bear.
Also these guns are high velocity cannons too
i like how these Japanese aircraft isn't just made up but are variants of the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka, which were Japan's main kamikaze aircraft which the long front of the jet is where it holds explosives along with unfortunately locking the pilot in who is manually guiding this rocket to a collision course to its target. great anime! :)
これは、山本五十六が高野五十六となって転生したチート物語です。動画に出ている戦闘機（あなたがロケットと言っているもの）は局地戦闘機「桜花」です。前世は特攻機だった桜花は後世では蒼莱や爆龍と一緒に、本土防空のために努めております。動画では飛行実験をしており、発射した時に、ドイツの戦闘機「ヨルムンガンド」がたまたま本土を爆撃しに来ていたため、迎撃しました。
原作者に感謝したい。実はこの特攻機を見た時に局地戦闘機に改造出来ないか海軍技術士官だった祖父に話し二人で考慮した事があった。技術的には可能だが離着陸方法、搭載エンジン、搭載武装等の問題に突き当たり挫折した。
@村木倫太朗 それは思った
しかし、着陸装置はありません 🤔
@村木倫太朗 秋水がそうですよ。
@@TURIKITHIKOZOONOMARUBOUZU秋水をベースにしたらどうですか?
@@陽仁清水 秋水は航続距離が短いロケットエンジンですからね。
このジェットタイプの桜花も計画されてましたからね。簡易的な構造にした感じなんでしょうね。
Those are not "Super Jets". They are Rocket Planes. They look like a modified version of the Yokosuka MXY-7 "Ohka" suicide Rocket Plane...
Nope, these are jet planes (in this anime). These fighters have ramjets. The ramjet can starts only when its reach a higher speed. thats what we see in the vid. the original mxy-7has got rocket engine thats true
@Positive Anion guess they have a turbo charger lmao
In real Life, The interception version of the MXY-7 ia really build and used, but only 2 was build, and use the rocket engine not jet engine
Positive Anion ramjets don’t have any moving parts. They need to be already moving to start.
Positive Anion ruclips.net/video/xpOa3B03gYg/видео.html
あくまでも別世界のお話ですから娯楽で見てくださいね海外の方たち
Can i have the name?
@@crimson7554 author Aramaki Yoshio Art of Title "紺碧の艦隊"→"新・紺碧の艦隊"→"旭日の艦隊"→"新・旭日の艦隊"
CとKが火病🔥起こしそうで草🌿
恥ずかしいよな、こんな妄想戦記でホルホルなんて
しかも米帝じゃなく敵がドイツて
@@ryokum卑屈精神を自慢してホルホルするのがそんなに楽しい？w
I just wanted to say thank you for this, the lack of subs is annoying but I will watch it due to the nature of the show. You're a real hero mate.
There’s a fansub project on Patreon
@@WeissVogel thanks dude I have heard of it, do you know how much they're asking for a month or is it a contribute what you can sort of thing?
紺碧の艦隊‼︎
I've now viewed a number of clips from assorted Japanese air warfare themed animations, and find many of the imaginative aircraft designs are impressive. Many are so extreme, they stretch credibility, while others are just to the "left" of what might have been. The reasonable designs show clear lineage from an existing air frame: the Ohka is clearly the parent of the "Super jets", with enough differences to make them dramatic. One of my interests is production design, and have found there often needs to be a compromise between what an engineer would (grudgingly) accept, and what a director wants to put on screen to capture an audience.
Ace combat in a nutshell
先陣きった人 「守ったら負ける、攻めろ！」「倍返しだー！」って言いそう
シロー・アマダやんけ…
航空母艦加賀 シロー･アマダじゃんかw
末雅之 もしくは勇者王ww
武装が大口径なのは合ってるｗ
はえ～後是日本はEz8作れんのかwww
gaijin pls....
+Kevin Y This was on point, thanks for the laugh xD
With an added KV-2 cannon.
And the rocket boosters wouldn't run out.
lol
pls add gaijin to counter Tu-4's
Japan had a larger problem looming in 1945 than America -
history is often forgotten but Stalin wanted Japan invaded by Oct 1945
with the intention of beating the American invasion he thought would happen
in early 1946.
Stalin might have Wanted to invade Japan. But the USSR lacked the Amphibious capability let alone capacity to invade the Japanese home islands.
I will grant that the USSR could capture the port of Pusan, Korea; that would be like the Allies trying to invade Spain from the port of Cherbourg, Normandy, France, a month after capturing it.
Look up the MASSIVE Fleet of cargo vessels, not to mention specialized Amphibious landing craft and warships just to cross the English Channel. Two years of preparation.
Next consider the Armadas, larger than those used to land in Normandy, necessary to invade Iwo Jima and then Okinawa.
Soviet logistics would have to go by train across the Trans-Siberian railroad. Where do they get the ships? Vladivostok?
The USSR wouldn't have the capability to invade Japan by October 1965!
Stalin wanted to use the war to grab off as much territory for the Soviets to make into puppet states as he could.
Nobody:
RUclips suggestions:
Let’s see an alternative version of WW2 upload 7 years ago!!!
for this to happen this has to be a "man in the High Castle" scenario or is my friend likes to call it the "Wolfenstein scenario"
Well, in Man of the High Castle the Germans had Nukes, Jets and VTOL, and all the Japanese had where some Swords, old Carabiners and some Ships :)
@@WanderfalkeAT "some ships"
they literally have a better navy then the germans, both during ww2 and we can assume they have a far more advanced navy in the 50s and 60s
桜花がこんな風になってれば良かったのに···
もしかしたら現代の戦闘機にも勝てるかも？
流石に無理かなぁ…
ヌケニン好きの syun
弾速が遅いからな～
爆撃機又は大型機用だね
魂不知火 火力が問題になるな
確かに
ロケットエンジンであんなに旋回できるのかね（笑）
ミト爺「なんちゅう脆い船じゃ」
ちなみに、｢ナウシカ｣の世界では、｢エンジン｣を回収して再利用するそうです。
この画像を見るとエンジンに直撃して再利用できそうにないな。
Wasnt expecting ju-390s. Well done!
"Help yourselves everybody. There's no fighter escort !"
Battle of Britain??
@@thefellathathuntsvatniks Yep.
桜花の正しい使い方である
これだったら乗りたい。
これ、桜花なのか
Alternate WW2 history always involves dropping some bizarre "yeah you wish" tech into the laps of Axis powers that somehow saves them from the inevitable
heh they just love to imagine themselves having the tech they wanted to try to win, at least Germany was advancing before we kicked their ass
Look I'm a bit of a weeb but when I see Japan win against America and stuff in Light Novels and stuff I do cringe a little. Example, Chivalry of a Failed Knight.
Sir this is fiction.
From the looks of it, seems like a hybrid Rocket and Jet Interceptor modification of the Ohka suicide bomber.
The plane was launch with the help of catapult and rocket engine and then proceed to fly with the jet engine after detaching the rocket engine.
This plane would prove to be difficult to land, there could be a parachute somewhere installed on the plane to help with its landing.
The armament shows that this plane was specialized in intercepting slow moving target.
The gun low rate of fire making this plane unsuitable for dogfighting.
If the German had escort fighters these interceptors would have had a hard time intercepting their bomber target.
桜花？
自爆テロ機という呼び名は撤回求む。
特攻はテロとは違うのだよ。
テロとは。
@@ぬこで悪いかなテロって何処に書いてありましたか？
Alternate history where the axis backstabbed eachother to death
Or the war against Japan have success and Heusmann launched the nuclear missile.
@@diegovenegas5400 please dont tell me thats the actual storyline
@@diegovenegas5400 the man in the high castle
Nah this is the alternate history where US talk no jutsu'd Japan to join Allied force and now they're fucking over German.
I wonder how such Interceptors would fare, if the bombers were AR-234s escorted by ME-262s?
It would be an interesting hypothetical scenario.
In this time line Japanese actually have J7W2s which pretty much match 262 tho in show it not actually called shinden if remember it known sorai or something like that
@@dragoontype00alphaz19 if you mean the Kikka I’m pretty sure that was just a 262 serving with Japan
@@nicholaswilson1851 the kikka it isn't 262 it smaller it was very much Japanese in house design it it was Japan first jet to bad day or so after it first test flight it got bomb the J7W on other hand was pusher prop which ad limited number made the was idea to refit them with better version of jet engine on kikka which been cool to see
@@dragoontype00alphaz19 not just J7W2 and Kikka but even R2Y2
@@AErch oh yeah i forgot about R2Y2
機体が折れて墜落するシーンとか映画メンフィスベルで観たような……
I am not sure if the animation's writers know, but those Japanese jets were of German design.
i thought the same thing lol
No, those looki more like the Japanese purpose built kamikaze rocket planes, Ohka.
No they weren't. Those were kamikaze jets. Think bomb with a pilot and jet engine. But they were Japanese. The only Japanese jets used in combat so far
Cara Institute of Advanced Hypnosis and they are fighting against the German bombers.
Cara Institute of Advanced Hypnosis 37 ignorant people lol
The design of the wings are for much slower planes like prop driven planes, if used for high speed jets they will just tear off and it will fly just like a cannon shell.
The A-10 Warthog uses a similar wing design and the MXY-7 Ohka kamikaze rocket propelled bomber also used a similar wing design, so an early generation jet fighter would be able to get away with a straight wing rather than a swept wing since they would not be going that fast for a jet. They would just have to reinforce the wing to cope with the additional stress , but it would not be in insurmountable problem.
Both planes your referencing are sub-sonic. Meaning they fly under the speed of sound so they can have straight wings.
1973Washu
A-10 Warthog is one of the few modern planes that went subsonic speed only. As for Ohka, it a suicide rocket-boost aircraft. You does not need wing if it going to blew up right?
The aircraft shown above is moving above the speed of sound so swept wing is able to avoid any wings from being ripped when used at supersonic speed. A usual straight wing cannot sustain such drag power from the wind at supersonic speed.
Just found this (2019) and wanted to thank you for posting it. Have never seen this series...really like the aircraft designs....reminds me of a comic series called Luftwaffe 1946 I read a loooonnnggg time ago.
Do you have a link for the comic series ?
@@spirz4557 www.amazon.com/Luftwaffe-1946-Pocket-Manga-1/dp/0972897895/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Luftwaffe+1946&qid=1562542649&s=gateway&sr=8-5
あの高度で脱出したクルーは無事に帰れるのか…
If the Japanese were that good in this alternate World War 2 then imagine us Russians
+Joseph Stalin Well, those German planes totally sucked, so who knows.
The Japanese were pretty much the Germans of the Pacific. They both had amazing vehicles and some of the best crews, but the allies could outlast them. The Germans and the Japanese just couldn't keep their superior quality up, while the allies could keep a constant quality going. Although in the end the allies crews far outmatched the axis ones, because the allies had more resources to train them and keep a good pace at the same time.
Eve Laur The Japanese had great aircraft and ships, but their tanks sucked due to thin armor.
Or had stupid amounts of armour, in an island environment.
+Wizard 03 most of the ships might be good, but not the carriers, they lacked external venting systems for the hangers. this forced the crew to open hatches to thin out the aviation fumes so they didn't pass out. problem was that now almost the entire ship was a highly volatile bomb waiting to go boom. only other main problems with ijn ships was lack of trained crew among the sailors especially damage control an anti-air defence.....take a look at the fate of the Yomato and its sister ship.
It's an alternate-history anime...these jets were repurposed as interceptors in the timeline.
かわいそうなドイツ軍に護衛機付けてあげて下さい。
戦略爆撃に護衛はつけられないですよ(航続距離や航続距離や航続距離のせい)
まああの世界ならできるかもしれないけど
東方ファン軍事物好き かつては米軍も爆撃機に護衛用の超小型戦闘機をくっ付ける事をやってたような…
@@赤井雷 実用化されてないんだよなぁ
パラサイトファイターってやつ？
焼きチョコ少尉 あれだよ、ゴブリンってやつ
こういうあり得ない物が空飛んで空中戦広げるって言う意味で見ると面白い
海上の特攻よりはこちらの桜花にのりたいよ
こうゆう風に使われて欲しかったよね人間爆弾じゃなくてさ…まぁ、どちらにしろ戦闘がないことに越したことはないんだけどね…うん。
4:12 Those planes have German luftwaffe markings...
Also, the Japanese pilots have way too much plot armour.
thats probably the entire premise of the anime
I just read the synopsis of this series. As soon as I read "they easily defeat the allies in Asia liberating the former colonies and giving them back their independence" I was just thinking "Fuck off" with a smile. It'd be all well and good if the main characters that went back in time were liberal scientists and engineers from modern Japan but they're not, they're both imperialist that was supposed to have been killed during the war, a politician and the other an admiral, and despite that, they're conveniently aware of how to make technology that would have been ridiculously advanced even at the time of their deaths and are also staunch anti-imperialists.
I'm British, this anime is the equivalent of me sending Montgomery and Churchill back in time and having them just shout "Hang on chaps! We'll quickly show you have to make a nuke, jet engine and nuclear submarine and also about this whole Empire business, we think it's all a bit old hat!"
I just find overly patriotic stuff cringy, doesn't really matter where it's from. There's this trope in British TV that occasionally pops up where you have an overly arrogant American being outwitted by someone from Britain and it just reeks of inferiority complex.
This and The Cockpit are kind of weird war shows. It's best to focus on the animation and not the propaganda.......Let's be glad this show was hidden away.
Japan' entire objective in the war was to liberate Asia from Europeans and set up friendly governments in the area, so yes they will set up de jure independent governments, not colonies.
@@Warsie Yeah sure it was.
Nice of the Japanese to finally remember that WWII also involved some fighting in Europe.
Even if they get everything about it wrong.
@Jovan Erlando well most of their war aren't recorded for odd reason
@Jovan Erlando well, they are worse than the nazis in WWII, but they try to hide their warcrimes.
my good friend you mean this
goo.gl/images/cDHmqn
@@motulautech4680 you mean as unit 731
Someone didn’t watch the OVA
It’s ironic that Japan’s suddenly the good guy
Japan didn't like Germany originally, so it would make some sense for Germany to betray the Japanese this way and for the them to bite back
@@fishingmasterstudios9481 ahahahahahahahahah!!!
Thank you for the link.
これの前に開発したって設定している震電だっけ、その震電が後退翼を採用しているのに？
何故(?_?)に後で開発した機体が直線翼なの？
山本貴之 後退翼にするとこの機体に積んでる40mm機関砲の重さに耐えられないレベルの機体強度だからとか？
後は着陸時にソリを使うから安定性を求めた結果とか
単に史実の桜花を出したかったとか
後退翼も良いことずくめじゃ無いってことでしょ。F-2パンサーやT-33Aだって直線翼だし
あと、この作品の中では震電じゃなくて蒼莱だゾ
@@tomato_27 そもそも特効機だからねｗ
戦時増産型噴式迎撃戦闘機だから大量生産を前提に設計してるとかなんとか
I am a Japanese but I think this Anime is stupid..
What level of stupid?
Sorry, but I didn't know there is a defined "level of stupidity" in this world. If you know it, please let me know.
I am American.
I am concerned for the creator and supporters of this anime.
They are very.... anti everything. Germans, British, Americans, Russians, Etc...
I would categorize these animes in the "Racist" category, to be honest.
Like... Zinpang
You could pass it off as an usual propaganda, nothing special.
これが桜花の本来の戦い
BAKAなんて言わせない
やったか！？で敵がおちた珍しい例
確かにw自分が知ってるアニメでこれ以外にホントにやっつけたのは見たことないなw
“I become disgusted by my own clickbait tittle"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Best sarcasm ever heard.......
Previous title was full of caps and bs :D so nah
知らない人のため
このアニメはタイムスリップものです
大戦の悲劇を変えようと新兵器開発や、改良を施し゛勝利゛よりもいい未来を作ろうとする人々の話です
この戦闘シーンは本来特攻機だった飛行機を改造した回
ライアンケン タイムスリップじゃなくて後世世界に転生が正しいかと
@@デブごん-e6m わかってるけどストーリー知らん人にいきなり後世世界とか言ってもスーパーイミフ大明神だからわかりやすく説明した
@@デブごん-e6m てかタイムリープだけどタイムリープすら知らない人結構いるしね
ライアンケン そうだね｡揚げ足取るような事言ってすまそ
ダイレクトにタイムスリップでは無く、別の時代に飛んだと考えてました。
今の時代がAとするならBの時代に飛んだと。
桜花22型が間に合って居ればこの戦闘が出来たでしょう地上設備は完成していました
中々、ぶっ飛んだ物語だけど🙄私は好き🤩メカがかっこいいし、内容もいい❗️漫画版だと平和の大切さを説いてたりと単なる架空戦記ではないから考えさせられるよ😉まあ、架空戦記何だから細かい事はなしで楽しもう😉
どれだけ一方的に勝っても終わらない戦争……
てかなんでドイツと日本が戦ってんだ､､､
@@SinanjuStein_MSN06s2 アメリカと戦争を継続しつつドイツに攻撃されているイギリスを助けて日英同盟復活→日米講和→敵は世界制覇を目論むナチス…のながれ
するかしないかで言ったらする
形桜花なのになんで機関銃搭載してるんだ？
前世の記憶はあるが特攻がない世界？
1200キロ爆弾を積む必要がないからでかい砲をつむ余裕あるだろうし。
When Germany betrayed Japan after defeating the USSR in 1945, Japanese air force attacking German Bombers 1947 colorized
was Japan who betray Germany IN THE REAL LIFE when instead attack soviet union Japan attack USA, if Germany was attacking Soviet Union so Japan should do the same from the east but not, they attack yankeeland forcing to that fucking country to enter the war, the reason is simple, JEWS MUST TO PROTECT THEIR LOVELY DAUGHTER, SOVIET UNION, never forget that comunism IS THE SON OF THE JEWS, and SOVIET UNION WAS THE DAUGHTER OF JEWS, that is the reason why all the efforts of allies was to protect soviet union, cos ALLIES WAS WORKING FOR JEWS, and this days the entire world is owned BY JEWS, is simple
@@carloko08
Japan could NOT attack USSR... While Germany was busy with their neighbours... USSR was fighting Japan and kicked Japan's ass (Battle of Khakhlin Gol) and then Japan and USSR made a peace treaty...but USSR still had Manchuria surrounded till the end of the war
If Japan had attacked USSR they would have been crushed just like before. They were useless against USSR on land and their navy would not be of help
@Sweetbutter Cupcakes
Japan was already getting drained in China alone... Japanese army was not as good as Soviet Army.. Japanese navy was good but not their army.. and yes Japanese did signed a non-aggression pact with Soviet
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Neutrality_Pact
If Japan had attacked USSR then it would have faced bigger problems by Soviet Siberian divisions...which were sent to German front after some delay (due to fear of Japanese attack).. Japan would have been stuck taking Siberia..
@Sweetbutter Cupcakes
This is an alternate reality we are talking about though... Soviets broke the pact and invaded Japan..
But Japanese army was not "roughly equal" Soviet were much more advanced in terms of land equipment than Japanese... Japanese had their navy going for them which would be useless against USSR ...
They could not have stretched their forces like Germany did and would have gotten kicked from both China and USSR.
Germans on the other hand were losing Stalingrad and D-day as you say "US distraction" came after Germans were getting pushed back. It would have just taken a little longer without USA.
Why do those bombers have no fighter escort? Is there any reason beyond trying to validate that bomber killer design?
because the writer/designer of this story or anime doesnt know anything about warfare. those bombers were obviously inspired by the USAF high altitude bomber which didnt fly with escorts because they literally flew higher than anything else at the time, including anything that japan had to throw at it. and the interceptor is obviously inspired by japans rocket propelled kamikaze plane which was a poor choice. modifying the shinden would have been a better choice in my opinion although adamantly harder to animate.
Not to mention the insane accuracy of those shots. Did any of the Japanese craft miss hitting their targets?
apparently, the only way for the japanese to win the war was to have isoroku yamamoto reincarnating 40 years prior his death and lead japan with his knowledge of future warfare. i'm not joking, that's the premise of the series.
"Japan has been kicked for team killing"
The reason Germany probably doesn’t have jet powered bombers in this is most likely because of fuel consumption
Early jet powered aircraft consumed a lot of fuel which probably explains why the modified Ohka is used an an interceptor and the Germans are still using propeller aircraft
4:09の「アッハイ」すき
アッハイ実際その通りです
3:17の銃座の動きが可愛いと思ったのは俺だけだろうか
4:40の辺りナウシカっぽいね〜
というよりすべてトルメキアとペジテのガンシップの戦いに似てるような...？
"Are you ready for your last flight?"
"Yes sir, but i just joined the air force yesterda-"
"Shut up and go!"
And then he explodes because there's a bullet touching the detonation
Those bombers may have been a bigger version of the HE-111's but they do look a lot like the B-29's.
Exactly!
The Germans never used such plane during WWII...
That's the B-29 superfortress
@@stephen4974 its a fuck wulf ta 400 it was a german project like also the junkers ef100 junkers j390 and there are even more
its a fuck wulf ta 400
Reminds me of an Me 264
“They’re too fast!” “Don’t get cocky, kid.” “I got one!”
本物の動画を見た後は、こっちを
見て安心したい
"Friendly Fire not Tolerated"
I know the Nazis didn't appreciate strategic bombing, but not having long-range escorts for their bombers doesn't make sense.
40ミリ機関砲の威力はすごい＾＾。
このシーンは蒼莱の初陣と並んでお気に入りです。本来なら悲壮な特攻機としての桜花を、今回は本土防衛の要として迎撃機に転生開発。その発想が素晴らしい。
what is the name of this anime?
I don't know if the creators knew this but Japan was a part of the axis forces along with Germany and Italy in fact they were close allies
嫌いじゃないけど、外国人に見られてると思うと恥ずかしいわ…。こんなの身内だけで楽しむもんじゃん…
新田良 ストーリーがストーリーだからなあ…
内輪であっても実在する国にトレースすることは向こうもいい気持ちでは無いのでは。
アニメとして見れない恥ずかしい奴等が多いんだよ
外人はフィクションと現実の区別がつけられないから仕方ない
許してほしい
これ特攻機なのにどうやって着陸するの?
RX-0 UNICORN 使い捨てみたいな感じで、使い終わったらパラシュートで脱出するんじゃない？
最近、桜花に20mmを付けて局地迎撃機にした記録が見つかったそうだ。
りんりん 噂じゃドイツの37ミリ機関砲(ルーデル機の主砲)を搭載予定らしいな。
桜花の自力離陸はあきらめて哨戒中の一式陸攻に吊るして爆撃機見つけたら切り離して迎撃するって戦法ができたらなあ
This anime is very in-accurate those bombers would take a lot more hits to be destroyed
With 57mm cannon, even FW Ta-400 heavy bomber takes only few hits.
Thanks captain obvious
@@petrberanek4230 thank god finally someone with great knowlege to know this is a ta400 :D
This looks cool! Is the series any good
They wouldn't be aiming, regardless. Spray all ammo into the formation on one pass, glide back down when our of fuel. A wall of lead works just as well as specific targeting. Just requires more bullets.
MXY7 isn't a fighter, it's a kamikaze plane, it's a flying bomb. It's the ancestor of guided missile.
Sorry Imperial Japan but only in your dreams.
4:12 isn't that the sound of a grate breaking in Half Life?
This is so cool!
very good ^Q^
4:19, the enemy bomber is German!?
Japan forgot who they where fighting against lol.
人間爆弾(Baka Bonb)と呼ばれた桜花が、高高度迎撃機ですか・・(^^;
当時の日本にこの位の技術があれば
B29も落とせたかもしれないですが
米国さんは我が国と比較して、基礎工業力が違い過ぎましたから(笑)
質より量でやられていたでしょう
まあ・・アニメの中の話なので、ご了承ください(^^)
これは橘花をベースにした改良機じゃないのかな？
popdono もともと高高度の敵を迎撃するために史実でも研究してたような気がする
地球 どう見たら橘花になんだよw
確かに桜花を戦闘機に改造するのは可能だ。しかし167型戦闘機と同じく航続距離が限定されかねないな。
正の人間馬鹿弾……
It feels odd to see both enemies in WW2 shoot each other. I don't know who to root for.
Italian?
when the 2 winners of the war are not allied anymore with each other
These heavy bombers were unescorted? Doesn’t add up in this situation. Another question: how are the interceptor pilots dead accurate with every shot??
the heavy bombers would have likely been inspired by the american's late war bomber which was never escorted because they few so high that japan had nothing they could touch them with. and its a fictional story, the hole design of that get fighter is stupid anyways.
Because it's a Japanese fanfic about them winning WWII, it's called Konpeki No Kantai.
@@xxxxCronoxxxx your totally wring they were real designs the fighter is the okha suicide jet and the bomber is the fuck wulf ta400 it was a german super heavy long range bomber project to bomb the usa ( the program was called amerikabomber) theres also similar projects in spain such as the loring b2 fortrena in 1930 six engined super bomber or the japanese j10N fugaku they are similar to b36
カッコいいーーーー！！
Jets like that would have done climb attacks and would find it very hard to turn quickly at any speed due to small wings 😊
0:02 だが実際この飛ばし方でb29を特攻迎撃する計画は存在していたよ
3:11 War Thunder pilots at high speeds pushing the stick forward and instantly redding out.
Guys its an anime there is everything possible. Dont question it...
But im not sure if it is 100% historical correct...
@dinkster is rejected by rebecca and that's your opinion lol
@dinkster is rejected by rebecca how did you even form that opinion, do you even read or watch alternate history
1:45 that's fastest jet climb I've seen
gaijin bye bye ..
epic rocket still with fuel that's epic ...
これは面白い良いアニメです。
爆撃機を護衛することなく地獄はありません！
それはアニメーションのプロットの間違いです。
Thanks, downloaded.
Manned SAM before BOMARC ? how did these pilots can stand high g's ? And also, how did the aircraft can exceed mach 1 without swept wings ?
bell x-15 exceeded mach 1 without swept wings
5000mahmud
x-1 too
There's another question, the X-15 and the X-1 we're use titanium and high quality steel. Japanese poor industrial standards and lack of materials in WW2 was hard to produce heat resistant material to create supersonic aircraft (e.g.:shushui rocket plane exploded in it's first flight in 1945). And normally, large caliber guns produce huge recoil, thus affect flight stability, it may result in structure breakdown( which can destroy the aircraft by itself), vibration( hard to aim and firing next round) , and fatal injury for the pilot inside(when the g-force and the recoil from the gun contact together). So that's why we've don't found any jet fighters exist in post war didn't use large guns with 57mm, they replace it with rockets( soviet was the first user in 1930's, the RS-82 family), missiles and autocannons between 20-30mm.
ng ch High recoil shock absorption system?
Walking with Dinos4Life japan the superpower has to deal with criticism