Modern Japanese mindset shown here: 1. We entered the war too early. 2. We joined the wrong team. 3. That’s all; those catastrophic things done by us during the process is irrelevant.
Greetings from Japan. I would say this is human psychology. Allies did catastrophic things as well. (but the Chinese were mostly on the receiving end unfortunately)
@@jawedz I partially agree with you. It's reasonable for the Japanese people to shun away from the unpleasing history (so do many other nations.) However, this could not be used as a means to justify such phenomena. Chinese governments hide unpleasing history away from the mass. Yet, people still try their own ways to seek for cruel truths. I say people who are strong at heart are not afraid of the gruesome past so that they could hold the future steadfast.
In this Alternate WW2 the Japanese defeat the Allies in the Pacific. Hitler defeats the Soviet Union and then proceeds to pick of the British Empires colonies, but then goes ahead and declares war on Japan, so Japan decides to back Britain and the U.S rejoins the war to fight Germany too. Its basically like Wolfenstein only the main difference is the Pacific timeline is totally different (in Wolfenstein the Germans arrive in time to defeat the Americans invading Japan in 1945, with events in the Pacific preceding as they were IRL). The whole pretense of Japan doing better is Yamamoto goes back in time and corrects some mistakes, mostly military, but also political so the IJ aren't truly Empire building anymore but instead liberating countries from Western rule.
Its not really a modern mindset, even before "danzig or war" the Japanese were never fond of the Nazis as they have been helping China ever since (they just viewed them as a convenient ally). Japan also knew that the war has been lost ever since they were not able to cripple the Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor, moreso in the battle of Midway. Even Yamamoto knew that and after Midway they knew they were just figthing for survival. However I do agree at that 3rd point where warcrimes are considerably still ignored and not even widely taught (NowYouKnowBetter have an awesome insight to why this is). All that I am saying is that this is not representative of the modern Japanese mindset, the culture of being apologetic to World War 2 still runs to this day. However the rise of the militaristic nationalists could very well change things.
Sept. 3, 2020----I know this series is totally unreal, but I still like it. Why? It's the Japanese version of Luftwaffe '46. Right now I'm into 1/35 scale zombie/ apocalypse dioramas, but if I got back to aircraft, going for Japanese/Luftwaffe '46 aircraft/dioramas. How about a natural metal Me-262 with multiple kill markings on it while being displayed at some German airfield while everyone is celebrating Victory in Europe, meaning England fell. Germany doesn't invade Russia since it discovered all those oil deposits in the Middle East for example. Or Japanese versions of the Me-262's duking it out against Corsairs or Hellcats?
Have a look on RUclips for secret ww2 aircraft. Germany, Japan, the USSR, USA, and UK all had projects in the works for advanced aircraft. Germany got pretty far, building several designs in decent numbers but lacked good materials to build them and hardly had enough pilots left by 1945 for the planes they could build. Japan built a large number of jet and rocket planes, copies of the ME262 (Kikka) and ME163 (J8M1) but also some of their own designs. They also had advanced propeller aircraft like the J7W Shinden but material shortages prevented construction of very many. Japan had at least 6 different single engine fighter planes being built from before the war through its end. That spread resources thin when they should have concentrated on one for use on aircraft carrier and one for land based operation. Even worse was they made so many of the A6M Zero that started before the war as a fast and agile fighter but soon outclassed by new American fighters, especially with the Zero's lack of self sealing fuel tanks and cockpit armor. Japan's other finite resource was its painstakingly trained pilots. Their pre-war training process was long and produced very good pilots, but as they got killed off, Japan didn't adapt well to faster training like the Allied countries. Germany didn't either. By the end of the war they were both putting "pilots" into planes with barely enough training to be able to take off and land without crashing, and a lot of them never got to land after a combat mission. The best of Japan's best pilots survived, but their numbers were few, and several of those spent their lives fruitlessly as Kamikaze. Saburo Sakai would have been among them but the Kamikaze flight he was sent out with couldn't find their American targets in due to heavy clouds and managed to fly back to their airbase - with their well used and beaten up Zeros falling apart. As described in Sakai's biography, one had an engine vibration so bad it tore its cowling off.
"Germany doesn't invade Russia since it discovered all those oil deposits in the Middle East for example" Dsicovering oil deposits in the Middle East would have been one thing. Getting full access to those would have been an entirely new ball game.
Can you imagine Germany and Japan fighting each other while somehow deciding not to involve nukes? Like to to see things from the perspective of the West coast americans fighting alongside the japanese vs the Nazi east coast government and people. Stuff could be wild.
unlike Germany, who acknowledged their WWII atrocities head on til today, Japan has been doing a kabuki dance about their war crimes for the last 70 years. They only want the world to sympathize with them on the A-bombs that shit their pants.
go86go actually, several Japanese actually welcomed the Atomic bomb, saying that without it they wouldn't have known when to stop fighting. Also, without the A bomb, the Americans would have had to have invaded the mainland, causing Japan's definite destruction and ruin.
Laughing Man First off, loving the GitS reference in your profile picture and name. And second, I totally agree with you; the Japanese are doing far too little today to acknowledge their wrongdoings during the war... in a way their cultural veneration of ancestors has gotten to such a point that they do not want to recognize their crimes against humanity, for fear of dishonoring their ancestors. You can see this with Turkey as well, and their refusal to recognize the genocide against the Armenians committed by their predecessors in the Ottoman Empire.
+nerfmega51 6 The I 400 is actually a hell of a lot better known than most Japanese subs, just because it's so unique. I bet that's the only kind of Japanese sub you could recognize off the top of your head, am I right? So much for "unknown"! Although this is kind of ridiculous; all the I 400 could carry is like 4 single-engine Aichi Seiran floatplanes; the idea of them somehow carrying and launching all these planes is ridiculous. They were kind of ridiculous anyway; they were supposed to attack targets in the US along the West Coast...what are a few small planes carrying 500lb bombs going to do do effect the US? The Allies pummeled Germany and Japan with huge fleet of heavy bombers, and it didn't stop them from fighting, so a handful of single-engine planes making raids would only be annoying to the US. Although, knowing the way people from the US are, they'd insist on being made 100% safe, and the politicians would pull an entire Air Force and 200,000 men to man AA guns just to try to make sure that not a singe bomb landed on the US again. The US has never learned to take losses proportionately. So, I guess in some ways, the I 400 made sense, in that the US would dedicate far more power protecting from them then they really called for. Some things never change!
@@justforever96 the attack would probably succeeded but with more submarines so they can carry more planes, and meaning it’s an Panama Canal attack it would take a lot of time repairing it, and because most of us military factories are located near the Atlantic Ocean they would need to use the Panama Canal and because it’s it damaged and flooded it it’s technically imposible to mount anti air guns
to be honest those where some GENIUS Level Engineering and a Masterful attempt at something nobody ever thought of before other then them not having much capacity for planes and they where VERY Difficult for Japan to produce they actually fucking worked. and fun fact these dudes where eating GOOD white rice, Fish, beef, liquor, bread at a point where most people in Japan weren't eating a whole lot...like at all.
@@justforever96 if you have a handful of planes that released bio chemical weapons to wipe out the civilian population and manufacturing Centers that’s all you need
Here they made a 3 plane i 400 if you get 10 of this is like had a normal carrier but it can t be located. They can spy you put planes bomb you and later if you survive they can torp you . If japan ever made this tactic before pearl harbor it will be hell fpr USA they only has to stalk wait to night put a fighter with seekera bengals and later bomb you + torp you.. is like go against dd+ cv
And you seem to have contracted aids from trying to figure out which hole to stick it in. I suppose you 'Muritards get triggered everytime Japan portrays winning something in anything, nevermind the fact that you did not watch this entire series because you are braindead, secondly you do not understand the language which does not help you in your case. Thirdly the Japanese are not invincible in this anime, but 'Muritards like yourself only see what you want to see.
Matthew Pham see like what he said you did not even watch the hole series to understand what is going on. Yes it is possible for Japan to build Something similar to F-4s during WW2 because the technicians and other scientists have their memories from the future. So it is 100% possible. And the Americans literally built B-30(basically b-29 with more defense)4 months after Pearl Harbor as well, I feel like that is more stupid. In 4 months, they design and tested and all those things in 4 months.
Samurai COWBOY they lost 10,000 planes(just from the navy), 7 aircraft carriers, 15 battleships, 29 heavy cruisers, 36 light cruisers, 186 destroyers, 218 transports, 17 submarines(4 of which are I-400 type) within the whole series. That seems like a fair result. And by the way the German navy lost 10 aircraft carriers, 28 battleships, 15 heavy cruisers, 34 light cruisers, 207 destroyers, 538 transport and 83 submarines. And remember that Germany was in war with basically the whole world.
Isoroku Yamamoto in this Anime...its actually the real Isoroku Yamamoto Captain of the Battleship Yamato...during the events of Operation Ten-Go where Yamato sailed on for her last sortie...at the end of the operation Yamato went down with 3000 crewmen and Yamamoto...Yamamoto then woke up thinking his in heaven or hell...instead he found himself in a An Alternate World where japan has advance technology but still uses the current Arsenal in his world...and since This Alternate World also has WW2...Yamamoto decided to reveal himself to this AU Japan and help them during the course of the war Yamamoto teaches the AU japanese pilots night battles which result in a devestating night raid on pearl harbour...the AU USA didnt know what hit them...then the battle of midway came...All 3 US CVs including Enterprise where sunk...this particular scene in the Anime shows that the Isoroku there is actually the real Isoroku and knows what will happen during the Pacific campaing...at the end of the campaing...Japan won the War which force the United States to sign a surrender form on Ironically enough...The Battleship Yamato herself...then this leads to the war between Germany vs America , Britain and of course Japan.
Actually u got one part wrong, he's the Yamamoto who died in a plane crash on Bougainvillea Island. The Allies heard he was trying to escape so they shot him down.
@@alistairdiren5790 Ok Yamamoto did use the Yamato as his fleet's flagship during Midway but the last captain of the Yamato during Operation Ten-Go was Kōsaku Aruga.
Better than anything that came out from Turtledove honestly. And people need to take a chill pill because this is an alternate history series where the first thing they do is depose Tojo and make the IJA a lesser factor in the war. Basically, only the Navy and the Air Force were fighting in the war. The Army is basically glorified guard posts.
I love it how they display Nazi soldiers with mean muggin faces, lol. As if Japan's imperial army was descendant from saints and considered other nations their equals. hahahahaha!
randomv3iwer Remember this is based on a alternative history where Yamamoto is blasted back into time where he can make changes he knows about in his future including on the political stage, so maybe he could change a little of the way they looked at the world as well. Remember he was not all that happy with his country going to war.
sh ha "so maybe he could change a little of the way they looked at the world as well." You remind me of myself years ago of how naive I was and saying emphatically everything Japanese is nice and changed to the better. Now I've been living in Japan for 3 years and I can confidently say: "We've been punked" Nationalistic attitude towards anything foreign is an everyday struggle. Romanticizing about a second chance to fight the enemy is deep hidden guilty pleasure that Japanese folks won't tell you unless you get them really drunk. And for this anime, You are wrong! Yamamoto did not change a thing. he still went on and attacked pearl harbor but this time the made sure war declaration was received so no one can call them cowards.
+randomv3iwer LOL well making sure you got the declaration of war there on time is a pretty big change if you ask me. But he changed other things as well, such as guiding the development in weapons and strategy, so why not a little in the political system as well, moving more power away from the army to the navy for example. Do remember that he was not that excited about going to war anyway. He even had his enemies consider him a "running dog" with death threats from other officers. Tried to stop the being allies with Germany in the late 30's. So why not try to turn the government a bit to the other side, especially when they see what he has to offer 30 years ahead of its time. But I understand the nationalistic zeal you are talking about, I am not certain when you were there but the 70's were just as active of the little black trucks with their bullhorns. Not to mention several family members happy married with some members of that nation. But I do not think I romanticize that much, just the histories I have researched and the people I have interviewed, not to mention the military education I received here in the states. But the argument is non-existent, this is alternative history, with very little of reality, the world of what if. What if Lee's order 191 did not fall into enemy hands, what if Hitler had let his generals fight the war, what if Lincoln had ducked to pick up his hat at the show, etc. Neither one of us can be right, because it would not happen. Better yet, what would you do, knowing past history and with the abilities you have. In this case the gentleman has all his knowledge intact including the mistakes to be made in the future. Besides alternative histories are there to think and enjoy. I remember going over many battles where the instructor would say "If" LOL.
+randomv3iwer Does that surprise you? Japanese are humans. They fought a very brave and bitter war, and took enormous losses, only to loose. That puts a real blot on the national psyche. Look what happened to Germany after WWI. If that Japanese didn't unconsciously resent having made those sacrifices for nothing, they wouldn't be human. Why do you think all though history, humans have constantly gone to war again and again? There is human pride, and there is national pride; if I get drunk at the bar, act like fool, pick a fight, and get clobbered, I might apologize the next day, and feel embarrassed for acting like fool...but I'll also both resent the fact that the other guy beat me, and I'll deep down resent the fact that I have to feel embarrassed for acting like a fool. Japan knows the US still judges them for their actions during the war; I'd be pissed too, if I was Japanese. The US didn't behave like saints, but they point the finger at the Japanese and act like they did nothing wrong, and that everything that happened was 100% Japans fault. People in the US have no problem with wanting to fight. In the US, when you say "we can kick anyone's ass, and we WILL if they try to order us around", it's just fine. But when another nation says "we don't have to listen to you! We'll fight you any time, anywhere! No-one tells us what to do!", the US calls it "nationalism" and treats it as a problem. The US would be furious of someone tried to order them around, and many US citizens would be more than happy to go to war over a perceived insult, but when another country refuses to do what the US says, and insinuates they'd rather fight than submit to being ordered around, the US calls it "provocation", and "nationalism". Why is all right for people in the US to act on their pride, and not other nations. In the US, people like to say they'd rather die than admit defeat for the US but when another country actually does it, it's some kind of evil act? Why should Japanese not be proud? They are a strong and proud people, with a long heritage. Was attacking the US the wisest course of action? No, but neither was it the most abhorant act in the history of mankind, like the US makes it out. For all the bad things that happened during the war, there are many more that the Japanese ought to be able to take pride in; they fought the most powerful nation in the world, against impossible odds, and they lasted a lot longer than any rational predication would suggest. The US likes to blame Japan for not giving up sooner, because it "caused unnecessary death", but at the same time they constantly spout homilies about "not giving up hope, no matter how bad things get", and "death before surrender!" It's hypocrisy. In any case, if you really expect Japanese to really just forget the whole thing, then you're wrong. I'm not saying they are going to start another war, or that they should. I'm just saying that the whole thing is a scar on the national psyche, and it's going to have it's effects, especially among youngsters. The older generation surrendered and had had enough of the death and suffering. The next generation grew up in their shadow, many grew up with the effect of the war still around them, and no one wanted to talk about it. But there is another generation of youngsters now, and it's the way of young men to want to prove themselves. That's how we keep ending up at war, the politicians keep exploiting the willingness of young men to go and fight...the way of the warrior, etc; having lost WWII just makes it worse. There is both a national humiliation there that they want to expunge, and a pride that they want to confirm, pride in that the Japanese once faced the US and managed to bloody them. So they are at once both aware that the Japanese are good warriors, and that there are still those who look down on them for having lost. It's a dangerous but natural combination. There is a similar problem in France; I can't tell you how much it annoys me to hear people telling jokes about France surrendering. It's bullshit; if it pisses me off, it must piss off young Frenchmen even more. France fought with appalling bravery during WWI, sending massed charges into the attack. They lost 3.5 MILLION men, but never gave up. Hitler managed to outmaneuver them, and they were forced to give up, and just because of THAT, they are now the butt of jokes in the other Allied nations? If Britain hadn't been protected by the Channel, she would have fallen just as fast; in the end they managed to barely hold out against the Luftwaffe alone, and somehow that gives them the right to laugh at the French. Where was Frances channel to hide behind when Germany attacked? But more important, what chance does France have of ever changing that reputation short of fighting another war and doing it in a way that no-one can call them cowards because of it. It's s different problem, but the same in some ways. We put these nations in situations by making jokes about them and pointing fingers, and wonder why some of them get defensive, and would rather fight than be peaceful about it? What bothers me most of all though, is still the US hypocrisy at being a proud, nationalistic and warlike nation who acts as if others were breaking the rules when they act the exact same way. Apparently Americans see no contradiction in being proud of their nation and ready to fight over any perceived insult, while insulting other nations freely and acting shocked when respond aggressively.
So after all this years i finally know what is going on, the anime is good for entertainment, It's stupid but meh, i love film about space wizard using laser sword, at long it's entertaining, then why not.
Esta serie turbopunk es muy buena y tiene grandes referencias, me gustaría ver todos los capítulos y comprender los diálogos aunque algo se entiende con lo que muestran.
So Yamamoto goes back in time tells japan they will lose the war, but that somehow gives the ability to mass produce jet fighters before Germany, who in real life they ripped they’re designs off of, not buying it
How can you say rip when Germany give them the license, that mean Japan have all the right to copy it, not to mention Kikka are not only different in size but also performance and wing shape.
heh... does anyone have subtitles? :) I always wanted to watch Konpeki no Kantai and Kyokujitsu no Kantai, but too many butthurt people and no fansub group took it :(
So while Japan has jet powered aircraft that can launch from submarines, Germany STILL uses their FW-190Ds?? You’d expect they’d probably upgrade their airforce with jets, maybe newer versions of the Me-262 or other aircraft like the Ta-183
Prolly cos Madagascar is considered a backwater and the Germans with their superiority complex believes the Japanese air or naval attack force to be made of paper mache.
@@Jadefox32 I know but i cant help to think there must been a way to keep at least one of those as a historical ship... not only they were the biggest subs ever to that date.. they were the only submarine aircraft carriers even to date (yes there was a french and a british sub that could carry a plane..but that was intended to be recon plane .. just like some battleships carried planes too but they didnt work as aircraft carriers)
I kid you not the only really accurate thing about what I've seen of this anime is those submarines. They actually developed some very much like them and the Americans scuttled them.
@@bluewardog >only really accurate thing >in an anime about a WW2 Alternate History where you can't fight on the side of the Axis because of your own media laws >only really accurate thing >the anime itself has tons of battles with period correct aircraft and equipment >only really accurate thing >literally none of the I-400 class subs were able to be used in combat and only three ever actually made it off the slipways >only really accurate thing >they launched fucking jets It's almost like you took a light hearted comment too seriously my guy
The only realistic thing about this is that submarine aircraft carrieres where actual a thing with the imperial japanese navy. But only on paper though
I dont think a lot of the commenters here have actually watched the series, and commenting based on this scene alone. I do agree that it's terribly unrealistic (especially in terms of resources) and whitewashes japan's crimes during ww2 (not sure if they happen here though?), but please watch the series and understand the storyline before commenting.
damn bro, just ignored them, they are not even the fan of anime afterall speaking about WW2, as Indonesian i don't care about that shit because we Indonesia having own warcrimes too, so yeah we must be never being hypocrites as China, South Korea, and US
@@modchannel8387because they always use the "Japan wants to forget their war crimes" card since it's so convenient to say when you're on the "winner" side. They're hypocrites who forget that their own country is built with hate has been spreading hate through "Freedom" ever since then. They're just as in-denial as those japanese who pretend Nanking never happened.
1:47 What the?
God damn it, Gaijin can you please fix matchmaking.
here we are 6 years later annnnnnnd still not fixed.
Hearts of Iron IV multiplayer match. circa 1948 colorized.
@DEFCON ZERO Don't try to make it into a mod, it will be too weird
When your Tier V airplane gets into a match with Tier IVs in War Thunder
I was about to make a War Thunder joke when the jets went and buzzed the little prop plane
微課金勢が「高い城の男」で重課金勢が「旭日の艦隊」て例え好き
この話、ナレーターの方の声が心地いいんだよね。
寝る前に見る（聞く）とよく寝れる。
Should have just thrown in a couple Gundams while they were at it, ffs.
敵の弾幕は一切当たらないのにこちらの攻撃は100発100中
アニメだもの
まぁ漫画だとこちらも被弾してるところあるらしいけどこれ手書きですから…許してあげてください()
戦艦大和でさえ坊ノ岬では約300の敵航空機を4〜5機くらいしか落とせてないから、案外対空砲ってそんなもんなんだと思う
弾幕は当てるためじゃなくて進路妨害程度しか役に立たんからな
大和魂で弾幕弾いてるんよ(？)
Modern Japanese mindset shown here: 1. We entered the war too early. 2. We joined the wrong team. 3. That’s all; those catastrophic things done by us during the process is irrelevant.
Greetings from Japan. I would say this is human psychology. Allies did catastrophic things as well. (but the Chinese were mostly on the receiving end unfortunately)
@@jawedz I partially agree with you. It's reasonable for the Japanese people to shun away from the unpleasing history (so do many other nations.) However, this could not be used as a means to justify such phenomena. Chinese governments hide unpleasing history away from the mass. Yet, people still try their own ways to seek for cruel truths. I say people who are strong at heart are not afraid of the gruesome past so that they could hold the future steadfast.
In this Alternate WW2 the Japanese defeat the Allies in the Pacific. Hitler defeats the Soviet Union and then proceeds to pick of the British Empires colonies, but then goes ahead and declares war on Japan, so Japan decides to back Britain and the U.S rejoins the war to fight Germany too. Its basically like Wolfenstein only the main difference is the Pacific timeline is totally different (in Wolfenstein the Germans arrive in time to defeat the Americans invading Japan in 1945, with events in the Pacific preceding as they were IRL). The whole pretense of Japan doing better is Yamamoto goes back in time and corrects some mistakes, mostly military, but also political so the IJ aren't truly Empire building anymore but instead liberating countries from Western rule.
Its not really a modern mindset, even before "danzig or war" the Japanese were never fond of the Nazis as they have been helping China ever since (they just viewed them as a convenient ally). Japan also knew that the war has been lost ever since they were not able to cripple the Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor, moreso in the battle of Midway. Even Yamamoto knew that and after Midway they knew they were just figthing for survival.
However I do agree at that 3rd point where warcrimes are considerably still ignored and not even widely taught (NowYouKnowBetter have an awesome insight to why this is).
All that I am saying is that this is not representative of the modern Japanese mindset, the culture of being apologetic to World War 2 still runs to this day. However the rise of the militaristic nationalists could very well change things.
Shameful.
That moment when friendly fire is on and there's a troll in your team...
Man in the High Castle's new season is looking great.
When you use the research all command in HoI IV.
lmao
Literally what this anime is lmao
これが自分と「艦隊シリーズ」との出会いでした
Gotta love it when your ally signs a non aggression pact with your enemy, thanks bro
Sept. 3, 2020----I know this series is totally unreal, but I still like it. Why? It's the Japanese version of Luftwaffe '46. Right now I'm into 1/35 scale zombie/ apocalypse dioramas, but if I got back to aircraft, going for Japanese/Luftwaffe '46 aircraft/dioramas. How about a natural metal Me-262 with multiple kill markings on it while being displayed at some German airfield while everyone is celebrating Victory in Europe, meaning England fell. Germany doesn't invade Russia since it discovered all those oil deposits in the Middle East for example. Or Japanese versions of the Me-262's duking it out against Corsairs or Hellcats?
Have a look on RUclips for secret ww2 aircraft. Germany, Japan, the USSR, USA, and UK all had projects in the works for advanced aircraft. Germany got pretty far, building several designs in decent numbers but lacked good materials to build them and hardly had enough pilots left by 1945 for the planes they could build. Japan built a large number of jet and rocket planes, copies of the ME262 (Kikka) and ME163 (J8M1) but also some of their own designs. They also had advanced propeller aircraft like the J7W Shinden but material shortages prevented construction of very many. Japan had at least 6 different single engine fighter planes being built from before the war through its end. That spread resources thin when they should have concentrated on one for use on aircraft carrier and one for land based operation. Even worse was they made so many of the A6M Zero that started before the war as a fast and agile fighter but soon outclassed by new American fighters, especially with the Zero's lack of self sealing fuel tanks and cockpit armor.
Japan's other finite resource was its painstakingly trained pilots. Their pre-war training process was long and produced very good pilots, but as they got killed off, Japan didn't adapt well to faster training like the Allied countries. Germany didn't either. By the end of the war they were both putting "pilots" into planes with barely enough training to be able to take off and land without crashing, and a lot of them never got to land after a combat mission. The best of Japan's best pilots survived, but their numbers were few, and several of those spent their lives fruitlessly as Kamikaze. Saburo Sakai would have been among them but the Kamikaze flight he was sent out with couldn't find their American targets in due to heavy clouds and managed to fly back to their airbase - with their well used and beaten up Zeros falling apart. As described in Sakai's biography, one had an engine vibration so bad it tore its cowling off.
"Germany doesn't invade Russia since it discovered all those oil deposits in the Middle East for example"
Dsicovering oil deposits in the Middle East would have been one thing. Getting full access to those would have been an entirely new ball game.
The Season 5 of The Man in the High Castle we should have gotten…sort of.
Can you imagine Germany and Japan fighting each other while somehow deciding not to involve nukes? Like to to see things from the perspective of the West coast americans fighting alongside the japanese vs the Nazi east coast government and people. Stuff could be wild.
ホント日本の作画技術はこの頃からすごいな
3:41
When you run out of ammo but you brought french fries with you
Japan: invents time machine
Everyone: cool, now we will get more knowledge about past
Japan: ye, some kind of that
Films be like anytime there is a plane STUKA SIREN
Lmao yes
Now this really makes me want someone to animate a what if the Nimtz hadn't returned to the present in The Final Countdown?
Japan willing to talk about fictional battles. But, never talk about what they actually did during WW2.
unlike Germany, who acknowledged their WWII atrocities head on til today, Japan has been doing a kabuki dance about their war crimes for the last 70 years. They only want the world to sympathize with them on the A-bombs that shit their pants.
go86go actually, several Japanese actually welcomed the Atomic bomb, saying that without it they wouldn't have known when to stop fighting. Also, without the A bomb, the Americans would have had to have invaded the mainland, causing Japan's definite destruction and ruin.
Laughing Man
First off, loving the GitS reference in your profile picture and name.
And second, I totally agree with you; the Japanese are doing far too little today to acknowledge their wrongdoings during the war... in a way their cultural veneration of ancestors has gotten to such a point that they do not want to recognize their crimes against humanity, for fear of dishonoring their ancestors. You can see this with Turkey as well, and their refusal to recognize the genocide against the Armenians committed by their predecessors in the Ottoman Empire.
+ Laughing Man , thats why china and korea hate japan even now ……
Japan did have the aircraft carrying submarines back in WWII
Heart of Iron IV Universe be like,
When you researched Jets already but your enemies still around 1940 equipments.
I do like how they used one off the most unfamous submarines the 1400 class it was basically a submersible aircraft carrier
+nerfmega51 6 The I 400 is actually a hell of a lot better known than most Japanese subs, just because it's so unique. I bet that's the only kind of Japanese sub you could recognize off the top of your head, am I right? So much for "unknown"! Although this is kind of ridiculous; all the I 400 could carry is like 4 single-engine Aichi Seiran floatplanes; the idea of them somehow carrying and launching all these planes is ridiculous. They were kind of ridiculous anyway; they were supposed to attack targets in the US along the West Coast...what are a few small planes carrying 500lb bombs going to do do effect the US? The Allies pummeled Germany and Japan with huge fleet of heavy bombers, and it didn't stop them from fighting, so a handful of single-engine planes making raids would only be annoying to the US. Although, knowing the way people from the US are, they'd insist on being made 100% safe, and the politicians would pull an entire Air Force and 200,000 men to man AA guns just to try to make sure that not a singe bomb landed on the US again. The US has never learned to take losses proportionately. So, I guess in some ways, the I 400 made sense, in that the US would dedicate far more power protecting from them then they really called for. Some things never change!
@@justforever96 the attack would probably succeeded but with more submarines so they can carry more planes, and meaning it’s an Panama Canal attack it would take a lot of time repairing it, and because most of us military factories are located near the Atlantic Ocean they would need to use the Panama Canal and because it’s it damaged and flooded it it’s technically imposible to mount anti air guns
to be honest those where some GENIUS Level Engineering and a Masterful attempt at something nobody ever thought of before other then them not having much capacity for planes and they where VERY Difficult for Japan to produce they actually fucking worked. and fun fact these dudes where eating GOOD white rice, Fish, beef, liquor, bread at a point where most people in Japan weren't eating a whole lot...like at all.
@@justforever96 if you have a handful of planes that released bio chemical weapons to wipe out the civilian population and manufacturing Centers that’s all you need
Here they made a 3 plane i 400 if you get 10 of this is like had a normal carrier but it can t be located. They can spy you put planes bomb you and later if you survive they can torp you . If japan ever made this tactic before pearl harbor it will be hell fpr USA they only has to stalk wait to night put a fighter with seekera bengals and later bomb you + torp you.. is like go against dd+ cv
もし俺が戦争前の日本にタイムスリップしたら、科学者じゃないから大したことはできないが
今現在ある兵器のコンセプトや大まかな戦況を教えることができる。
という願望を漫画やアニメにしたのがこれだろ
絵が描けるやつがそんな妄想を思いついちゃったら漫画になっちゃった
アニメってそういうことですから
設定がどうとかどうでもいいんだよ
Mark Felton Productions presents: The secret Japanese raid on Madagascar
No lemurs were harmed during the bombing of this island...
Great! Another anime to watch that similar like Zipang!
Man in High Castle anime
They're difference between an alternate history and a complete bullsh*t.
And you seem to have contracted aids from trying to figure out which hole to stick it in.
I suppose you 'Muritards get triggered everytime Japan portrays winning something in anything, nevermind the fact that you did not watch this entire series because you are braindead, secondly you do not understand the language which does not help you in your case.
Thirdly the Japanese are not invincible in this anime, but 'Muritards like yourself only see what you want to see.
@@SMGJohn fuck you son of a bitch
SMGJohn
So you think Japan developing F4 Phantoms during WW2 is even remotely plausible?
Matthew Pham see like what he said you did not even watch the hole series to understand what is going on. Yes it is possible for Japan to build Something similar to F-4s during WW2 because the technicians and other scientists have their memories from the future. So it is 100% possible. And the Americans literally built B-30(basically b-29 with more defense)4 months after Pearl Harbor as well, I feel like that is more stupid. In 4 months, they design and tested and all those things in 4 months.
Samurai COWBOY they lost 10,000 planes(just from the navy), 7 aircraft carriers, 15 battleships, 29 heavy cruisers, 36 light cruisers, 186 destroyers, 218 transports, 17 submarines(4 of which are I-400 type) within the whole series. That seems like a fair result. And by the way the German navy lost 10 aircraft carriers, 28 battleships, 15 heavy cruisers, 34 light cruisers, 207 destroyers, 538 transport and 83 submarines. And remember that Germany was in war with basically the whole world.
Isoroku Yamamoto in this Anime...its actually the real Isoroku Yamamoto Captain of the Battleship Yamato...during the events of Operation Ten-Go where Yamato sailed on for her last sortie...at the end of the operation Yamato went down with 3000 crewmen and Yamamoto...Yamamoto then woke up thinking his in heaven or hell...instead he found himself in a An Alternate World where japan has advance technology but still uses the current Arsenal in his world...and since This Alternate World also has WW2...Yamamoto decided to reveal himself to this AU Japan and help them during the course of the war Yamamoto teaches the AU japanese pilots night battles which result in a devestating night raid on pearl harbour...the AU USA didnt know what hit them...then the battle of midway came...All 3 US CVs including Enterprise where sunk...this particular scene in the Anime shows that the Isoroku there is actually the real Isoroku and knows what will happen during the Pacific campaing...at the end of the campaing...Japan won the War which force the United States to sign a surrender form on Ironically enough...The Battleship Yamato herself...then this leads to the war between Germany vs America , Britain and of course Japan.
what in the actual f*ck
Oye cómo se llama este anime militar me dice el nombre
Actually u got one part wrong, he's the Yamamoto who died in a plane crash on Bougainvillea Island. The Allies heard he was trying to escape so they shot him down.
@@firesturmgaming who was Yamato's captain again? i know that Isoroku died before Yamato sank.
@@alistairdiren5790 Ok Yamamoto did use the Yamato as his fleet's flagship during Midway but the last captain of the Yamato during Operation Ten-Go was Kōsaku Aruga.
Those poor FW190-D9s, beautiful warbirds.
Those are Ta-152's
still a fave Alternate WWII anime
なんでドイツがTa152なのに、日本は戦後ジェット機みたいな奴なんだよw
色々な意味で面白いけど
他の話でドイツはドラケンやミラージュみたいなの使ってたし
スカイホークを春嵐として出すぐらい誤差だよ
@@hotspur3260 ドイツ軍、稼働率、うっ、頭が
どっかの転生系の人達が結構な集団で転生したからね。しょうがないね。
(江戸時代らへんから近未来まで)
でも、一応ドイツとかにも前世の記憶を持った人はいたよ。
まぁ、架空戦記だからね。
紺碧艦隊は最新の機材を最優先で与えられるけどマダガスカル守備の独軍は足止めのために捨て駒にされてたから古いのしか回してくれなかったんだと思う。
@@hotspur3260 春嵐はシーダートでは？。
Op Japan bias (think of war thunder)
+kitty jakolantern only in war thunder it's russian bias in anime it's Japanese bias but in history it's american bias
+araw540 In history Russian&British bias as well...
1:27 that looks like a very high tech plane for WW2
Not really and that jet actually able land on water I just think of it as a fancy looking sea meteor
Season 5 of Man in the High Castle starting strong.
実際、この潜水空母、作られたんだよな😉もしかしたらこんな風に活躍したかも知れない🤔ロマンだね😁他にも登場兵器はどれも素晴らしい🤩
伊ー400だよな
伊400型は日本初の潜水母艦で搭載機は晴嵐や瑞雲だった
Those jets seem pretty unstable to me. A hard turn would probably put one in a spin.
似たようなアニメあってこれなのかはわからないが
山本五十六の転生後の世界じゃなかったっけ？
昭和が照和だったり 20年で終戦しなかったり
他にも技術者がいて、生前の記憶を元に改良をして兵器開発してたとか。
AZUMA ch このアニメだよ
間違いなくこれです。
うん、そのアニメ。
相違ござらん。
Regardless of the Neo Reactionary aspect pointed out by Matthew Bailey, the animation is pretty kickass.
Better than anything that came out from Turtledove honestly. And people need to take a chill pill because this is an alternate history series where the first thing they do is depose Tojo and make the IJA a lesser factor in the war. Basically, only the Navy and the Air Force were fighting in the war. The Army is basically glorified guard posts.
the turret firing sound like firing gumball
the sheer amount of people debating about fictional anime over ideological and historical values scares me
and they are from fucking US hypocrites
and shitty wumao too
I love it how they display Nazi soldiers with mean muggin faces, lol. As if Japan's imperial army was descendant from saints and considered other nations their equals. hahahahaha!
randomv3iwer Remember this is based on a alternative history where Yamamoto is blasted back into time where he can make changes he knows about in his future including on the political stage, so maybe he could change a little of the way they looked at the world as well. Remember he was not all that happy with his country going to war.
sh ha "so maybe he could change a little of the way they looked at the world as well." You remind me of myself years ago of how naive I was and saying emphatically everything Japanese is nice and changed to the better. Now I've been living in Japan for 3 years and I can confidently say: "We've been punked" Nationalistic attitude towards anything foreign is an everyday struggle. Romanticizing about a second chance to fight the enemy is deep hidden guilty pleasure that Japanese folks won't tell you unless you get them really drunk.
And for this anime, You are wrong! Yamamoto did not change a thing. he still went on and attacked pearl harbor but this time the made sure war declaration was received so no one can call them cowards.
+randomv3iwer LOL well making sure you got the declaration of war there on time is a pretty big change if you ask me. But he changed other things as well, such as guiding the development in weapons and strategy, so why not a little in the political system as well, moving more power away from the army to the navy for example. Do remember that he was not that excited about going to war anyway. He even had his enemies consider him a "running dog" with death threats from other officers. Tried to stop the being allies with Germany in the late 30's. So why not try to turn the government a bit to the other side, especially when they see what he has to offer 30 years ahead of its time.
But I understand the nationalistic zeal you are talking about, I am not certain when you were there but the 70's were just as active of the little black trucks with their bullhorns. Not to mention several family members happy married with some members of that nation. But I do not think I romanticize that much, just the histories I have researched and the people I have interviewed, not to mention the military education I received here in the states. But the argument is non-existent, this is alternative history, with very little of reality, the world of what if. What if Lee's order 191 did not fall into enemy hands, what if Hitler had let his generals fight the war, what if Lincoln had ducked to pick up his hat at the show, etc. Neither one of us can be right, because it would not happen. Better yet, what would you do, knowing past history and with the abilities you have. In this case the gentleman has all his knowledge intact including the mistakes to be made in the future. Besides alternative histories are there to think and enjoy. I remember going over many battles where the instructor would say "If" LOL.
+randomv3iwer Does that surprise you? Japanese are humans. They fought a very brave and bitter war, and took enormous losses, only to loose. That puts a real blot on the national psyche. Look what happened to Germany after WWI. If that Japanese didn't unconsciously resent having made those sacrifices for nothing, they wouldn't be human. Why do you think all though history, humans have constantly gone to war again and again? There is human pride, and there is national pride; if I get drunk at the bar, act like fool, pick a fight, and get clobbered, I might apologize the next day, and feel embarrassed for acting like fool...but I'll also both resent the fact that the other guy beat me, and I'll deep down resent the fact that I have to feel embarrassed for acting like a fool. Japan knows the US still judges them for their actions during the war; I'd be pissed too, if I was Japanese. The US didn't behave like saints, but they point the finger at the Japanese and act like they did nothing wrong, and that everything that happened was 100% Japans fault. People in the US have no problem with wanting to fight. In the US, when you say "we can kick anyone's ass, and we WILL if they try to order us around", it's just fine. But when another nation says "we don't have to listen to you! We'll fight you any time, anywhere! No-one tells us what to do!", the US calls it "nationalism" and treats it as a problem. The US would be furious of someone tried to order them around, and many US citizens would be more than happy to go to war over a perceived insult, but when another country refuses to do what the US says, and insinuates they'd rather fight than submit to being ordered around, the US calls it "provocation", and "nationalism". Why is all right for people in the US to act on their pride, and not other nations. In the US, people like to say they'd rather die than admit defeat for the US but when another country actually does it, it's some kind of evil act? Why should Japanese not be proud? They are a strong and proud people, with a long heritage. Was attacking the US the wisest course of action? No, but neither was it the most abhorant act in the history of mankind, like the US makes it out. For all the bad things that happened during the war, there are many more that the Japanese ought to be able to take pride in; they fought the most powerful nation in the world, against impossible odds, and they lasted a lot longer than any rational predication would suggest. The US likes to blame Japan for not giving up sooner, because it "caused unnecessary death", but at the same time they constantly spout homilies about "not giving up hope, no matter how bad things get", and "death before surrender!" It's hypocrisy.
In any case, if you really expect Japanese to really just forget the whole thing, then you're wrong. I'm not saying they are going to start another war, or that they should. I'm just saying that the whole thing is a scar on the national psyche, and it's going to have it's effects, especially among youngsters. The older generation surrendered and had had enough of the death and suffering. The next generation grew up in their shadow, many grew up with the effect of the war still around them, and no one wanted to talk about it. But there is another generation of youngsters now, and it's the way of young men to want to prove themselves. That's how we keep ending up at war, the politicians keep exploiting the willingness of young men to go and fight...the way of the warrior, etc; having lost WWII just makes it worse. There is both a national humiliation there that they want to expunge, and a pride that they want to confirm, pride in that the Japanese once faced the US and managed to bloody them. So they are at once both aware that the Japanese are good warriors, and that there are still those who look down on them for having lost. It's a dangerous but natural combination.
There is a similar problem in France; I can't tell you how much it annoys me to hear people telling jokes about France surrendering. It's bullshit; if it pisses me off, it must piss off young Frenchmen even more. France fought with appalling bravery during WWI, sending massed charges into the attack. They lost 3.5 MILLION men, but never gave up. Hitler managed to outmaneuver them, and they were forced to give up, and just because of THAT, they are now the butt of jokes in the other Allied nations? If Britain hadn't been protected by the Channel, she would have fallen just as fast; in the end they managed to barely hold out against the Luftwaffe alone, and somehow that gives them the right to laugh at the French. Where was Frances channel to hide behind when Germany attacked? But more important, what chance does France have of ever changing that reputation short of fighting another war and doing it in a way that no-one can call them cowards because of it. It's s different problem, but the same in some ways. We put these nations in situations by making jokes about them and pointing fingers, and wonder why some of them get defensive, and would rather fight than be peaceful about it?
What bothers me most of all though, is still the US hypocrisy at being a proud, nationalistic and warlike nation who acts as if others were breaking the rules when they act the exact same way. Apparently Americans see no contradiction in being proud of their nation and ready to fight over any perceived insult, while insulting other nations freely and acting shocked when respond aggressively.
+randomv3iwer It's all about the Honour and Pride of the Empire of the Rising Sun
I would know what would happen if germen make an "Alternate" animation or film like this?
Lol that's a good question
I'll do more research on it but maybe your right.
GLORIOUS AND DIVINE 👁️👃👁️🙏
Okaaay... so where exactly are the Luftwaffe's me 262s and Horton Ho's?
No puedo creer que las defensas fueran tan descuidadas como las de Pearl Harbor en diciembre del 41.
Sabes el nombre de este animé?
@@yilmeralejandrogutierrezpe2820
Konpei no Kantai.
Gracias ❤️
1:05 HONDA JET
This sounds like "Man in the High Castle", exept America isn't invaded and is rivals to Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
i guess it makes more sense since both germay and japan knew they they could not invade Us
konpekinokantai(紺碧の艦隊)
Watching this while eating my Top Ramen
Just an average time of Hearts of Iron 4
伊400型潜水艦空母が元ネタですな パナマ運河 攻撃を目的でしたが ウルシーを攻撃することに急遽決まりました元ネタも水上攻撃機晴嵐でした
Where did you find this cartoon? I must have it its like Japanese gi joe
俺つえーーーーーの先駆け？
So after all this years i finally know what is going on, the anime is good for entertainment, It's stupid but meh, i love film about space wizard using laser sword, at long it's entertaining, then why not.
where I can watch subtitled someone can tell me?
Esta serie turbopunk es muy buena y tiene grandes referencias, me gustaría ver todos los capítulos y comprender los diálogos aunque algo se entiende con lo que muestran.
¿Turbopunk? Nunca había visto ese concepto.
Above dieselpunk, but not quite atompunk, so, turbo!
この後作画が若干変わって残念な感じになっちゃったんだよな
鳴門とかいう史上空前のギャグ兵器のこともあって見る気なくした
Alternate history: If japan properly used the I-400 (ie none of em got captured)
So Yamamoto goes back in time tells japan they will lose the war, but that somehow gives the ability to mass produce jet fighters before Germany, who in real life they ripped they’re designs off of, not buying it
How can you say rip when Germany give them the license, that mean Japan have all the right to copy it, not to mention Kikka are not only different in size but also performance and wing shape.
That Moment when you got a lead on Tech in Civ.
I guess the U - Boat is meant to be an improved version of the I - 400?
It's awesome to see the concept of a aircraft carrier submarine that the japs had during ww2 taken further than it was.
heh... does anyone have subtitles? :)
I always wanted to watch Konpeki no Kantai and Kyokujitsu no Kantai, but too many butthurt people and no fansub group took it :(
This is what I called real anime
3:40 lmao a fighter jet diving like that the pilot will probably passed out lmao
where can i watch this anime??? i cant find it :s
how are they going to land?
0:50 my favourite Japanese submarine I-400
....................bro thats not i-400
thats i-600
Gilbert Nicht Tot sorry but I can't seem to find i-600 on the Internet. Is that a fictional boat?
So while Japan has jet powered aircraft that can launch from submarines, Germany STILL uses their FW-190Ds?? You’d expect they’d probably upgrade their airforce with jets, maybe newer versions of the Me-262 or other aircraft like the Ta-183
Prolly cos Madagascar is considered a backwater and the Germans with their superiority complex believes the Japanese air or naval attack force to be made of paper mache.
When japan blame german loses ww2, this anime was release
how were they planning to recover the jets? The strike aircraft were seaplanes at least...
Man in the High Castle in Japanese Version
今、なろう系なんかでよくある、転生物の走りですね。
Also why’s RUclips algorithms recommending me this?
Yeah why?
Holy shit folding jet wing
so long old friends
What is the name of the music
Japan + Germany + Italia = ❤llWW
This tech
Launch planes from submarines are real
And US captured some of this subs plane carier
Plus with blueprints
and they scuttled them instead of preserving them as museums...
@@sparrowlt we scuttled the 2 I-400s because the Soviets found out about them we didn't want them getting the information.
@@Jadefox32 I know but i cant help to think there must been a way to keep at least one of those as a historical ship... not only they were the biggest subs ever to that date.. they were the only submarine aircraft carriers even to date (yes there was a french and a british sub that could carry a plane..but that was intended to be recon plane .. just like some battleships carried planes too but they didnt work as aircraft carriers)
@@sparrowlt It was the cold war, I think we both know as in the current cold war between the US and China. Best to destroy it.
I kid you not the only really accurate thing about what I've seen of this anime is those submarines. They actually developed some very much like them and the Americans scuttled them.
The US scuttled them so the Russians couldn’t study them.
Wow it's almost like this is fiction
@@cannonball117 wow its almost like you missed the fucking point
@@bluewardog >only really accurate thing
>in an anime about a WW2 Alternate History where you can't fight on the side of the Axis because of your own media laws
>only really accurate thing
>the anime itself has tons of battles with period correct aircraft and equipment
>only really accurate thing
>literally none of the I-400 class subs were able to be used in combat and only three ever actually made it off the slipways
>only really accurate thing
>they launched fucking jets
It's almost like you took a light hearted comment too seriously my guy
You knows... anime or cartoon.... you can make everythings as you wish...
and i thought we're friends
この噴式春嵐ってどうやって着水するんだろう?
name?
Can someone please tell me what anime is this from?
>implying Japan wasn't a 19th century civilization with some passable tech bolted on
+RADIOACTIVEBUNY This is fucking perfect.
what is the name from Anime ?
Why do they even bother with the prop planes if they have a squadron of jets at near Korean War level?
Why did Germany, Britain and US bother?
The only realistic thing about this is that submarine aircraft carrieres where actual a thing with the imperial japanese navy. But only on paper though
well I-400 class was actually made and put on service, but never have the chance to prove itself
a fantasy of japanese victory
I dont think a lot of the commenters here have actually watched the series, and commenting based on this scene alone. I do agree that it's terribly unrealistic (especially in terms of resources) and whitewashes japan's crimes during ww2 (not sure if they happen here though?), but please watch the series and understand the storyline before commenting.
damn bro, just ignored them, they are not even the fan of anime afterall
speaking about WW2, as Indonesian i don't care about that shit because we Indonesia having own warcrimes too, so yeah we must be never being hypocrites as China, South Korea, and US
@@modchannel8387 well who know LOL
@@modchannel8387because they always use the "Japan wants to forget their war crimes" card since it's so convenient to say when you're on the "winner" side. They're hypocrites who forget that their own country is built with hate has been spreading hate through "Freedom" ever since then. They're just as in-denial as those japanese who pretend Nanking never happened.
This must be the anime in TNO's timeline...
I don't think a cluster bomb would do too much damage to a runway.
That was a tennis court.
What Anime is this? Nothing shows up on Amazon or Ebay.
www.amazon.com/Konpeki-No-Kantai-Kyokujitsu-PCXE-60017/dp/B004X9I0KG
Is this another time travel thing? I see a somewhat modern jet?
いろいろとぶっ飛んでるけど好き。