Role Player Gets Stuck In Murder Hobo Game r/rpghorrorstories
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Imagine not liking someone for trying go role play in a roleplaying game
and then get exposed that you - yourself are the murder hobo that makes everyone feel very uncomfortable. I love the plot twist to this story.
I always try to roleplay, and often find other players don't always want to. I have to meta game a lot, because i don't want to overshadow the other players eben in situations where my character absolutely would speak up or act.
It kind of sucks and does take away from my own enjoyment of the game, but the game is for everyone and I'd rather have everyone else have fun at the cost of a little of my own. Maybe that's the DM in me talking.
In a Pathfinder campaign I play a Drow monk. Its great because another players characters back story includes the Drow. Not me in particular but just Drow. So we get to a point and more of my characters back story comes up. The character mentioned before has already been weary of me because of being Drow, but now he just doesn't know if he can or not. We got a whole session like that. Him being distrusting of my character and it ends on a good note. Next session were talking before it starts and he go "Yeah small meta gaming, but my character doesn't trust yours right now. so if it seems like I'm being hostile thats why." And I'm just like "Okay cool, makes sense." He explains that he does like me as a person and he doesn't wanna make the campaign weird.
This post was made by the roleplaying gang
How dare you roleplay in my roleplaying game?!
Neutral good character in a murderhobo team... something has gone terribly wrong here.
Terribly, Terribly wrong.
Sinisterly wrong, even...
Me rn
Wait a minute how did this happen? We’re smarter than this!
That and a WARLOCK espousing that they have a very defined MORAL compass... O_o
By the way if you check the comments on this story in r/horrorstories you'll find a few comments from the sorc, the DM, and the ranger. Turns out OP was turning the actual story into his own pity party and was actually belittling the DM and ranger as well as sending PMs to the DM saying some shitty stuff. Theres a separate post by the DM and the sorc and ranger commented to prove it. I would check it out. It turns the horror story on the OP rather heavily.
Thanks for sharing. If you watch the video that came after this one you will see that I also noticed that. Here's to a fellow man of culture 🥂
@@CritCrab Oh nice! I'll didn't see that, I'll check that out now! Thanks for being so classy 🥂
It all just boils down to he said, she said.
I thought I presided over this
Often a matter of perspective.
Murderhobo parties are fine if everyone is good with it.
What is a murder hobo game? It doesn't really explain in the video.
@@brettnelson7518 murderhobo is a term that refers to a player/character that basically goes around and kills anything that _can_ be killed (as in has a statblock) kind of like a character in a video game
It's often problematic when not everyone agrees to go along the imaginary rampage
I don't think it is because no one liked 4e
It's fine even if everybody EXCEPT ONE PERSON is good with it.
If the all but you want to be a murder hobo then you're not in the right group
I think the only problem here is the complete lack of communication on the parties (or everyone's) part. The ranger didn't really do anything wrong roleplay wise, and being RP heavy doesn't really mean being diplomatic or conversational, if it was made clear to everyone (or at least the party had better ties to work together) things like this would be fine.
But the refusal of the DM to consider a character swap, even though kicking out the poster would still require one, as well as the block, leads me to believe this was more personal than either they or the poster was letting on, which again is just something that needed proper communication to separate in a more graceful manner.
Woah, you are on absolute fire. It does seem fishy that the OP is the only person in the world who has any problem with it. I think they have some unresolved issues between each other they need to work out oog
...I'm smelling a mystery.
@@thegameknight8916 I've said it before, I'll say it again. I didn't make you the loremaster for no reason. Nothing gets by you
Thanks, @CritCrab.
But the RP group just KICKING a guy out for RP elements... Yeah, I'd bet there was a darker backstory at work the OP knew nothing about.
@@thegameknight8916 Assuming the OP wasn't lying about things, it wouldn't be surprising if the DM didn't like the guy for whatever reason, told the other players some sort of asinine story about the OP being a complete dick, and then the other players didn't bother to question it because "Why would DM lie over a game?" or some other reason.
Unfortunately I've seen this happen a few times and have also had it happen to me before, it sucks but at the same time can be a blessing in a thorny disguise. DM in that case would be a toxic person I wouldn't want to be around anymore and the other players would just be forgotten.
"Are you a stabbing type hobo or those singing type hobo"
One of top best lines from the Simpsons
Mike Kazz fantastic point of separation
That ranger was “that guy” and if they didn’t like that you didn’t go along with it in game then screw that group.
"Wangrod" is probably my new favourite word now
Same
What about douchecanoe?
NewOldEBM same I love that word now
I learned wangrod from Matt Colville, been using it ever since
Even in a murder-hobo game, actions should have consequences. If the DM doesn't have the balls to have his NPC authority figures declare the party that burned down the village to be killed on sight - that DM doesn't deserve to sit behind the screen. Without consequences, there is no immersion. Without immersion, there is no real entertainment value.
Agree, in our long standing game the party might be arrested by our own retired older characters with overwhelming force.
And when inevitably they kill the guard and their captain, wanted posts are answered by parties of actual good adventurers.
this, like if I was making a game like Skyrim, I'd make it so that you do acts like the causing a massive fire that kills innocent people Id be making pay and might even send a high level hitman after that PC
Burns down warehouse murdering multiple innocent people.
Party member says they'll retaliate
Dm & That guy: ***Surprised Pikachu***
:0
I hate people who play out of character. And dm's who arent neutral
As long as the DM's interest isn't any group over another, then they're fine.
It's tolerable if their interest is in the world over the characters, it's annoying to play if they don't do it right, but even then it's fun with how you can play out your actions to drastically or subtly manipulate the world through the DM's own mind.
If their prioritizing the characters than the world usually falls flat, since the DM _is_ their world.
Thing is, the ranger was playing Rambo. Sounds like he was RPing him to a T.
@@snikerz5886 if the ranger gets to roleplay to a T, then it's dumb that the warlock gets "called out" when he roleplays his character.
except that isn't the whole story and all the original party members found that post and exposed the OP as lying.
Lesson of the story:
Reading the table is one of the most useful traits you can have.
That would suck so much, glad he got out of that one, even if forced out
Yeah, that is probably the best thing that could have realistically happened unfortunately.
Missing the best part which is the rest of the party finding the posting revealing he is lying, you can find this story very easily on the controversial tag in the subreddit
but then.... who is/are the actual liars here? seems like we might have two words pitted one against the other: the OP and his group who forced him out.
without an impartial third witness, you can't tell which is real
@@lanteanboy Are you serious? OP says 'they kicked me out of the game because I wasn't murder hobo enough' and FIVE different people says that 'that's bullshit, you character did death threats to the rest of the group'. I'm inclined to believe the FIVE other people more so than OP. I think OP just wanted sympathy points from strangers, and didn't anticipate the rest of the group to actually post on the forum as well.
as I explained in the FOLLOW-UP video, you can't always trust the word of a group due to group mentality, HOWEVER, as I also said there, the group's arguments DO seem more legitimate than OP's attempt. As such I am tempted into leaning more into the group's argument than OP's.
The ranger was playing Rambo. Not the one from the movies, but the one of the book First Blood, that the movie is based of.
First i am also Argentino :D (if that's the reason for your name)
Second. It is not based off the book First Blood, First Blood was based on other book novels, some of which were based on real biographies.
I can't remember the name of the books, multiple, but i do remember the author being quoted saying Rogue Male was one of the inspirations, as well as tales from vietnam vets.
I remember being taught this way back in 2003 by a much more Rambo inspired Argentino :P, i checked it out back then, and i even remember seeing youtube videos referencing the books.
It's not abnormal for authors to not admit to all the inspirational sources they take when creating something new.
Kly argentum is Latin for silver
That's what I was thinking.
Well, I mean First Blood was Hobo War Veteran Arrested for Vagrancy John Rambo
@@KaiTenSatsuma wiping hands on robes = wiping ink covered hands on fingerprint forms.
Aloof, not caring about the world. Defintely John Rambo.
Ranger+Rambo=Rango
The Rangers book character, the emotionally broken hobo war veteran in jail for vagrancy, is Rambo. Dominic Noble did a Lost in Adaptation video about it, good watch if you're interested in that.
I was going to say..... This sounds a lot like Rambo.... :P
And then OP added the part about being in jail for vagrancy. ~facepalm~
So the book would be First Blood by David Morrell.
I was gonna say jack reacher
(ranger burns down a building)
OP: I am gonna punch you so hard!
Ranger: I don't feel comfortable with this
OP: SAYS THE GUY WHO JUST BURNED DOWN A BUILDING!
Vaguely reminds me of my first campaign. One of my fellow players was role playing an aspiring murderhobo. A fiend pact warlock. I was playing an abolishionist activist. A acolyte with a divine soul. There was... friction. But in a good way. We got along great, even though our characters didn’t, and there was always an understanding that once one of us crossed a line the other didn’t like spellfire would burn and only one would remain. It was great. When our battle finally came, we had both seen it on the horizon and when the dust settled we were both satisfied with the result.
The battle, not so much. I won itiatiative, twinned Chaos Bolt and hit him with two simultaneously. He was down for the count and rolling death saves before he had a chance to do anything. Then a priest of justice executed him then and there. A little... anti-climactic, you know?
So... I'm getting the feeling that there's more to the story here than the OP is telling us. I though the ranger does sound like a major wangrod, if the ranger was being that big of a problem, it doesn't make sense to me why the other PCs would feel uncomfortable with OP's character. Also, I can't fathom any possible reason why a DM would say "No" to the problem player actively trying to fix the issue.
My theory is that the OP unknowingly joined a murder-hobo group and was being a wangrod about it. Then he got kicked. The story was added to for making him seem better than he is. Again, this is all speculation and I may be completely wrong here. If the story did happen as OP says, then I agree that no one (except for the Ranger) was in the wrong here. It's just a conflict of interest. I still can't understand why the DM wouldn't just let him play a more murderhobo character.
My thoughts exactly, it is true that almost every story on the sub comes from only one point of view. I personally believe strongly in your theory's merit.
Wangrod?
@@thegameknight8916 basically calling someone a d*ck. But it was popularized by Matt Colville who is a very talented dungeon master/RUclipsr, now it's a common phrase for problem person in D&D
Ahhh, gotcha.
Still, it's a right mystery.
That, or the group lied about what they were. I think the OP said himself that this was an RP heavy group, and yet the group was okay with a That Guy murderhobo? Seems more like they only said they were an RP heavy group when they were probably more a combat heavy group in reality. Both equally likely options, yours and mine, so we'll never really know unless someone from that group comes forward and says something.
I feel that the ranger was probably an entitled brat out of session and likely whining to the DM to get their own way when another player put their actions into question. It's fine to play a character with no moral compass, but you cannot expect that to not come without consequences.
I am playing a Fighter/Rouge in pathfinder right now and having never played a Rouge class before the Dm has been very patient with me and extremely helpful as I learn the skills and nuances of the class but he has also reminded me on one occasion after my first lvl in rouge that my character is neutral good and unnecessary killing of innocent people would carry consequences for me and the party. the group was worried what I would do with my rouge abilities when I first got to tinkering with them but now they love my character as I am now a master of disguise that gathers information and negotiates better pay on jobs and purchases by pretending to be a beggar or a rich merchant and even a noble man and i constantly change my name and looks to fit the task at hand. with a good group of Players behind you that are truly into the role play aspect of the game it can turn into the most fun that you've had in a long time.
That feels like a weird power move to say "no you must change your characters entire identity if you want to play with us." In my experience people dont try to force symbolic gestures like that out of people they... respect as people... unless there playing a game of a decidedly different nature... my guess is they would have just fucked with him more if he accepted or tried to talk it out so getting blocked was probably a good thing.
"murder hobo" dontcha mean 99% of the Skyrim community?
If you read "first blood" the "murder hobo" WAS the roleplayer.
I am deeply ashamed that I know exactly which manga your pic comes from......
No homo.....
Care to share with the class?
@@Dragonlover553 His, "no homo," comment makes me think that it's something similar to Boku no Pico.
@@chimblemasterofchimney4771
Boku no pico is sesame street compared to this. Lol
If it were me, the second the GM asked me to change my character rather than creating a new one, that would be the moment I say I'm not the right fit for the group and wish them all the best on their future adventures.
This video was made a week or so ago. So mind me if it is a tad dated. Fresh new content coming up!
Perhaps "the Ranger" is based on Rambo from the book "First blood", A green beret Vietnam veteran retired from service (Therefore the former military retiree and ranger) who starts the book by getting in jail (Therefore his insistence on beginning as a convict)
@@emiledlund9559 Duuude, that also matches his lethality description.
We've been stuck with a chaotic neutral character for two sessions.
1st Session he attempts to murder our sorcerer because "it's to hurry up the game", I was able to calm down the sorcerer after the combat to avoid them fighting back but I did warn the monk "if you try to hurt one of my teammates again, I will consider you an enemy to be killed and looted". Honestly I was just trying to get him to stop since we were a 5 person group not including him, but we had a loyal NPC and a strong pet of the druid's on our side, and he stopped for a while.
2nd Session the crappy monk steals my wizard staff and hides it where I can't find it for no reason except "I'm chaotic neutral, I do whatever I want", steals a large amount of loot that was supposed to be shared, and then once again tried to kill the sorcerer "for the group's safety" when the sorcerer tried to open up a door which was untrapped, totally safe, and had no enemies inside.
We didn't kill him, but on strike three it's been agreed we will all attack and murder him (both me and the sorcerer have used two healing potions to bring him out of making death saves)
Update: he's been kicked from the group after he continued to be an asshole.
@@PaladinGear15 Glad he got kicked. Chaotic Neutral doesn't mean a bully or rude. Stealing and hiding something "for fun" is Chaotic Evil, not Chaotic Neutral. So many people don't play their alignments well.
I'm with you on this one. I kind of hate the 'loophole alignment' myself. Conan the Barbarian is C-N , being a narcissistic Tasslehoff is not.
LOL...that just sounds like Rambo: First Blood....hahaha
make roleplay game
only one roleplaying
everyone hates it but doesnt say
gets kicked
Man, I'm sorry you got hurt like that man, that sounds like that had the potential to be fun
@Eddie Traylor how?
Hello again, from the remake video
Thank you for the video! All of you friends are super awesome! Oh, moments in that video are sad.
I designed specifically for my two brothers game to play a muder hobo game.
Its been really fun.
They've:
-got arrested
-broken out and stabed a prison guard with a fork
-kill many guards allowing for a goblin raid
-made a few drinking buddies
-givin alcohol to a kid
-got two guards drunk
-made a goblin buddy
-token a job to dethrone a king
Ect...
Imagine a good aligned character reporting a heinous crime lmao
You know, now that I think of it I think the character the Ranger was playing was supposed to be Rambo from the Manhunter book. An aloof hobo who’s got PTSD and doesn’t want to hang with the group.
Love that you are playing Neverwinter (D&D) for RPG (horror stories)
This sums up my entire d&d experience. I’ve only played with one group, most of us like role play, but the dm caters to the two that tune out as soon as we aren’t in combat,
I relate to this post.
I hate when people don't allow my characters to be true to their nature and ban me without warning.
Ah alignments issues. I know the feeling. My last session another player tried to kill an old blind man, that myself and another player had just pulled from a burning building. Whilst fleeing from a horde of zombies. He claimed the man was annoying and made an attack roll against the man. I made it perfectly clear that if he killed or even attacked the man, he would have me to deal with. My buddy also backed me up on this, as we knew the guy loved to murder hobo in every game if he could. We are all supposed to be playing relatively good characters by the way. Had already had an incident where he ran right by people crying for help, and just stood at the door and watched them burn or be eaten by zombies. So yeah probably not going to go well. May have to talk to the DM, about people playing their alignments properly.
(Burns down warehouse)
OP: I am not forgiving you for that!
(get's instantly banned)
OP: ... DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE PATIENCE OR NOT???
i played D&D in the 90's and all of this would be considered painful, and we knew it would be painful, that's why we never played evil characters or allowed PvP, we were all in the adventure together and that was it
As someone who has been looking for a group for a year now, this is one of my biggest fears for when I finally am able to play. I'm the kinda guy that RPs his skyrim characters as he plays so naturally that's the kinda player I'm looking to be in DnD or what ever game I end up playing.
I couldn’t get over that Omin Drann is in Neverwinter...
haha, so we were fooled by this guy. you should link the new vid to this one Critcrab, it would be really helpful
Just kicking out OP instead of discussing things is the murder hobo response
An RPG Horror Story from the villain's perspective. Cool!
Isn't this the one where it turns out that op was lying and in reality he was the problem ?
What?
Yeah
That dm is apparently on love with that Ranger.
Y'know, I'd love to ask the OP if he'd be okay with his Bard being a character in the story, or at least mentioned.
yeahhhh I would as well.
Would you mind asking the OP if I can add this character? I would myself, but my PS4 doesn't like Reddit for some reason.
Curious, the bard that the guy was going to make?
Actually, I was thinking the Bard who had a problem with the Ranger.
*sees the plot twist*
Wow.
The OP sounds like one those "it's what my character would do" types.
I feel like "That wasn't good enough for them" is a catchphrase for the series by now.
I feel like the RP'er just ended up in the wrong game for them. I feel like the DM really should have given everyone a heads up that it was meant to be a murder-hobo game. I feel like if it's an edgelord/murder hobo game, everyone needs to be on-board with that. Literal murder hobo character seems to be a lot more murder than the other characters, but the group seemed on board with him as a sort of player antagonist. I feel like if you're not into a game like that, though, you should probably speak up about it right near the start.
The book he refers to sounds like The Short Timers by Gustav Hasford, the book that spawned the film Full Metal Jacket.
its a little weird that no one was like "dude we are supposed to be the bad guys"
Imagine this happening but I ABSOLUTELY made my concerns heard!
Murder hobo? Never heard of that term to describe a D&D campaign before! But it's accurate.
Play however you want, as long as everyone is okay with it.
The truth is a 3 edged sword. I seriously wonder how the story would sound from everyone else's perspective.
The cure for murder hoboes is bounty hunters.
That works when the GM takes his job seriously
Acquisitions Incorporated quest for a murder hobo story.
I like it.
I was an RPer caught in a murder hobo game. Our DM let me have my story though. I am now his assistant to help with story & other details
This doesn't exactly sounds like the party hates you and more the DM wants to kick you with an excuse
3:45 "What did I say? We just instituted our 'no children on fire' policy. We are not supposed to be doing this! ...it's okay. Really, it is my fault for setting a high bar; that first goal of no children on fire. We should be thinking about reduced children on fire. As long as we are seeing some progress, like fewer and fewer children on fire; it's a long therm goal."
A man of culture I see.
Even if I play my characters as chaotic evil they would hate murder hobos and have an even evil has standards moment. Telling them it is not what they did that made them angry. It is that they did it in the middle of town and got the attention of the guard. Meaning that the chaotic evil character is worried about their own neck. They just want to go house shopping for an evil lair namely the dungeon the party cleared and wants to get in on that sweet sweet loot as well. They are mostly just a ruthless pirate who are just out for whatever they can get their hands on at least how I play them. They only care about helping the party because they want to get paid and adventuring pays pretty well. Have to rescue a princess. A chaotic evil character will grumble about saving the damsel in distress but won't kill them because they wanna ask for a ransom in return and know the princess is their ticket to getting paid by her rich parents. This gives them a reason not to go about killing random npcs.
Wiped his hands on his employer's robes? No wonder the character was homeless. In my campaigns that npc is immediately elevated to party level x2 cr and very mad.
If the group can't talk things through or at least attempt to then I personally wouldn't want to play with that group. I've had quite a few issues in the past with some of my friends when it comes to playing (One who is no longer my friend for reasons not pertaining to D&D would accuse me of going out of character, ignoring the rather clear pattern of behavior for MY character.. xD) and we all talked things through and would come to an understanding of each other's frustrations. Sometimes that meant I was in the wrong, sometimes that meant someone else was, but the key point is that communication is what it was about.
If the group wants to play murderhobo I'm all for it, but if the group wants to change a non-murderhobo game into one then I am against it. Make a new game if you just want to go kill stuff, play it on a different day or alternate games, but don't break the current story just for the sake of breaking it. x.X
I feel bad for the person in this story that was tossed out of the group, I know how it feels (overall, not just when it comes to D&D) but as much as it hurts it was probably a good thing, they'll continue the group will probably fall apart due to lack of communication skills and the poster will most likely find a new, much more reasonable, group. Or move on to other hobbies.
In a game all about roleplaying and enjoying time with friends or company having enough respect for each other to at least try and talk about things is extremely important.
Murderhobo is fun, as long as you eat what you kill.
“Just try roleplaying a deranged killer”
2:00 I'm pretty sure the book their talking about is First Blood. The way they describe the character and the "getting arrested for vagrancy" sounds exactly like Rambo at the start of the book.
IMHO ANY D&D game with no rule against internal pvp is destined to failure and internal conflict. It's a simple matter of 5 people always getting along, it won't happen.
I don't even play DnD but these stories are addicting to listen to
I've been a game master for a while now, I have never had to see a murder hobo in any of my campaigns but I have warned that I would make players change their alignment to evil when they do become a murder hobo, also a Lobo style NPC bounty hunter is my way of removing such groups.
that ranger was chaotic stupid, and chaotic stupid characters need to be punished in character for their actions.
I played a game of World of Darkness where one of the pc's was an escaped con, and he kept doing shit that didn't mesh at all with the group. Like raping a girl in my character's car, for example. Now my character was a British heavy - huge dude with a leather jacket and a mo-hawk but a heart of gold, and he already didn't like the con character (we didn't know in character that he was an escaped con) so when he found out in character what had happened, my character lost blew his top, which was sort of a character tick that had only come up a few times.
In world of darkness, combat is pretty secondary to rp, but you can still spec for it, and as a street thug my character was pretty beefed up in the fisticuffs department. When he gets really, truly angry, he doesn't hold back. Well, ex con pc was NOT specced out for combat, so the exchange was pretty one sided. After beating the ex con unconscious, my character continued to kick and stomp him, wracking up something called aggravated damage, which is basically broken bones, burns, that kind of shit. The kind of damage that can kill you. With the con barely hanging on to life, my character handcuffed him to a pole at an abandoned gas station, and the party drove away.
Basically what I'm saying is, OP was in the right. If I was in a game with that ranger, I would have done the same thing. Hell - I would have actually hunted him down, and if the dm/party blocked me for it, well, their loss. I don't like playing with fucking munchkins at the cost of rp, and I will attack any player character who deliberately acts against my character's morals.
yeah, I really hated that the statue would heal when you are way too far away also how BS the fight is when they boss kicks you out of the arena ultimately forcing you to restart because he healed back up again.
You know... looking back at this... self-gratifying story by a liar... reminds me of when I joined a campaign with a level seven character... and I thought I knew what I was getting into because I was informed "hey, this is basically the "final boss" of the campaign. Reason I joined? Massive group, multiple tables, and this was a table offering to let others join while the others were more locked off.
I... did not have as much fun as I could have, HOWEVER, I blame that on myself underestimating what I got into. It was a scripted-for-story (since I had not ran with the group since the beginning, much went over my head. Oops.) forced loss scenario. Nobody in the party died, but... it was a bit frustrating to go against a homebrew creature that was part-EVERYTHING from the base Monster Manual. Neat gimmick, it could only move OR attack, but it basically treated every more like a Legendary Action, in that it had a turn after each player in the round. Also, DM had a chart custom made so they could roll for what monster abilities it took after for each action or move. Appropriately horrifying. Luckily it never landed on a Shadow, that dice roll. Str-drain is a mean thing.
I didn't go into the second round for the next session due to feeling miffed about it, but for that, none of those parties died as far as I know... They at least had fun with it, because they were familiar with the story this tied into. They knew this was coming. That's fine.
... *deep breath* Hopefully I can play a campaign at last when I don't clear through character levels because I joined a higher-level table again. 7 to 13, sheesh. While I was given XP, I did NOT feel like I earned it.
Yeah, I personally prefer milestone leveling. Mostly because I can't bear to do to my players the same that happened to you.
@@CritCrab Milestone leveling doesn't account for strange mishaps like a single character getting lost off on their own then accidentally killing the boss by themselves. I'm asking because I accidentally went down the path my party didn't take and ran into a giant snake, which swallowed me whole but I cut my way out at -8hp and lived. Then the party showed up. What would you have done in a case like that?
I wouldn't expect diplomacy from a hard core murder hobo group; and man, that ranger was a d.
One or two of these things sound a bit like OP was either oblivious or ignoring things that he did wrong. Adapt your play style to the group you're with at least a little. You can do that without changing your character too much. Also if he had decided to hunt the other character down it would have kept the Ranger player involved and hunting down / combating a PC / choosing sides could all have made for a memorable session. As it stands OP basically just forced a PC out of the group, threatened to kill them if they returned, and followed it up by blaming it on his character which seems like a "that guy" move. Also, if the ranger was really being an issue why did the others seem to consistently get angry with the OP?
Its not a good party if one of your PCs doesn't occasionally set the building you're in on fire that's just the basics come on :P
The second i heard "chaotic neutral" and "rouge" i already knew this wasnt gonna go well
phoenix plays lawful evil masquerades as chaotic neutral all the time by saying “I can do whatever I want, I’m chaotic”. But religiously doing things only if they serve his goals, finances or whims. Never any good deeds or thoughts that equal it, never any neutral
My character is a murder hobo. Except he doesnt do much murdering...he wants a goose army and his only friends are rocks which he names. His only tie to the group is his favorite person: 3 dwarves in a trench coat named B.O.B. from years of murder hoboing, hes gone quite literally insane.
I've got to be honest. I am running a murder hobo game, mind you I put in plot points and as they get stronger they will eventually start learning more about the world. So yeah. Oh yeah I covered on session 0 that they could go under hobo if they wanted to. So yeah, just thought I should say that I'm guilty of murder hobo games
Been there bro. Had to keep asking, “ok but is there a reason to kill them all- now that they’ve surrendered?”
What game is Crab playing in the background of these videos?
At the moment I am a self-directed player with lots of schemes and plans for the world stuck in a hideously tight railroad. But I can still have fun - it’s about enjoying table time with your friends.
Regardless of how true this was...I admittedly was once in a similar situation. On multiple fronts. I've had all sorts of games where people gave me shit for stuff instead of trying to talk to me and resolve things civilly. Either people told me to stop what I was doing or just outright let the things I did fester until it all fell apart and I was kicked. It's honestly upsetting how rare talking to someone about a problem could be. We're all adults here. Let's act like it and try to resolve things peacefully instead of treating someone like they're the bad guy.
If I was in a group where NPCs were frequently getting killed because characters were Chaotic, Evil or even both and the DM was getting sick and tired of it, I would play a Lawful Neutral (less law and order and more predicticaility, cohesion, practicality, pragmatism, consistency and reliability or if it doesn’t work, then fuck it) Conquest Paladin just for the express purpose of crippling any murderhobos in the party with fear and torment, teaching them the true price of their hedonistic bullshit. If not, Divine Smites all around, then get a better party.
Rp player: “Why. Am. I. Here?”
There are reasons to block someone like this and I didn't see any of them in the story.
I don't know everything that happened so maybe he was the jerk? No idea.
There HAS to be more to this.
nerds can be the worst bullies
what game are you playing in the background?
Wait, did he base his character on John Rambo?
Ranger's character is definitely inspired by Jack Reacher
I despise when groups dont tell you somethings wrong, then kick you out with no real warning. 99% of problems can be solved if you just freaking TALK about them!
They literally kicked him out. what a petty ass move.
Imagine going into a goblin cave. Okay goblins attack party so party attacks back. Get to the end of the cave and a small hut is in place. Stealthily approached see 2 goblins one is bedridden and the other feeding the bedridden goblin some sort of broth.
Dm: *says in dm's mind* please don't kill these 2 helpless goblins
Party: *confused*
I recommend reading the follow up to this story before deciding for yourselves who is really at fault. Apparantly he left out very crucial information and what behaviors he had actually exhibited. He sugar coats what he does during his telling of the story.
Welcome to the club, OP. Most people dont want to "cause a problem", so they just bicker behind your back, then bitch you out after the fact like your a mind reader.
This happened to me once, albeit with me not powergaming, and the others all min-maxing multiclassing, decided to leave when I was the only one without 20-30 AC. Kinda felt unbalanced.
My group was all about playing our characters to the letter. If they die they die. PVP or stupidity lol.
When everyone is an asshole, you'd do better to look at yourself and ask "wait, am I the asshole?"
Are we the baddies?
Sometimes, everyone around can be an asshole.