Funny how the same people who made the Hellcat (which is basically a boat) also made the Viper ACR which is the literal best handling and grippiest car on earth
Colds the handling of the Hellcat Challenger gave the Sam numbers as the Alfa 4c on the motortrend testing. It surprising can handle better than you would think
robm425 the problem is it still can't handle anywhere near as well as its Camaro/Mustang. The V6 Camaro came extremely close to outrunning a challenger hellcat around a track
Methinks you need to add a qualifier to that ACR. It's the best handling, grippiest, ROAD LEGAL car on earth. I'm fairly sure if you throw the road legal requirement out, you can find plenty of cars that'll beat the Viper ACR.
I don't think this car looks bad at all. It looks cool, bulgey and mean, just what an American Muscle is supposed to look like. However, if I wanted any of the two Hellcats I'd rather the Challenger Hellcat as I prefer the looks.
Interisting, Americans build a car with more aggressive style Brits call it Vulgar..... Americans build a car a little more understated then Brits call it a boring blob. There is no pleasing them I guess. One thing I have learned about Brits over the years of talking to then and dealing with them is that they are the masters of the black handed compliment. Tell you everything they see as wrong just to in the end say eh but I love it.
The problem with this video is that they tried to take it on a track. Big mistake, as the Hellcats are designed to cruise around town in comfort and have more power than you would ever need at your disposal.
DynamiteDupree Every performance car built today has different driving settings. Just because Dodge has a track mode doesn't mean the Hellcat's suited for the track.
LOCO Fiesta Then it isn't Carfection's fault the Hellcat sucks on the track, its Dodge's for including performance modes in a car that can't really hang. "It isnt meant for the track" doesn't excuse the car from having a bad track mode. If Dodge didn't want this car on a track they would have stopped at Sport mode. Then your argument would make more sense.
DynamiteDupree M cars and AMG cars have comfort modes, yet they're not meant for comfort. It works both ways. Nowadays almost all performance cars have three driving modes: Normal or Comfort, Sport, and Sport Plus or Track. The Dodge is no exception.
Actually RUclips Charger Hellcat VS All the worlds top 4 door Performance cars ! BMW-M5, Cadillac CTS-V, Mercedes S65 AMG, Jaguar XJR, Auston Martin Rapide !! These cars are all known for Performance and Handling ! Charger won in overall competition on the Straightway and Track ! Sure it's not going to handle like a 2 door Sports car ! But for a 4 door Performance Sedan it handles better than you would expect ! I agree if you want handling, You have the Porsche 911 GT2, Caymen GT4, Viper ACR, And many more !
"I can't help but absolutely adore it!" And that statement rounds up why many collectors and enthusiasts want a Hellcat to enjoy...and why I have one too. Nope, can't handle like smaller lighter cars. Can't get the power down without drag radials and a LOT of skill. And yet...the silliest and most fun in a family car ever.
lonewolf5460 idk what to tell you man different strokes for different folks. Damn shame about the Viper though, maybe they will bring that beast back in the future, who knows
I'm never quite sure what to think when people do a "British review" of something that's not British. Of course Jaguar's are all perfect and manual diesel wagons are a must...but that's clearly not what (or who) this car was made for. It's a throwback to American muscle from years past. It's heavy and powerful. It's not a track car and it was never intended to be. It's certainly not for everyone...but seeing as how I own one...I'm a bit biased. I can also speak from experience. Overall though not a bad review but there are a few inconsistencies from common held opinions. I'm a bit suspect as to your take on the brakes for one. When reviewed by Car and Driver they said "Massive Brembo six-piston front and four-piston rear calipers grabbing two-piece rotors halt this car from 70 mph in 153 feet-averaging 1.07 g’s-with virtually no fade." How you note fade and think they're "made of paper" I am honestly not sure. They manage to bring the car from 60 to zero in 104 feet. Seeing as how a review in 2013 showed an Audi S8 taking 107 feet to do the same thing, I'd say it's pretty impressive for a car that weighs over 4500 pounds. The infotainment system doesn't have too many options/buttons either. I half suspect at this point you're just trying to find things you don't like. If it had too few, you would say it's too bland and lacks versatility. I would also venture to point out that some people, myself included, actually like the fact that it doesn't stand out in a crowd. If I wanted something ostentatious then I wouldn't have bought this car. I rather like that it blends in. When I see someone give me a thumbs up it's because they know what it is and can tell it's not your average squad car or grocery hauler. I can put my whole family in it with car seats, luggage and all for a road trip that's not only comfortable but fun. In the end, it's not a car for everyone. It's a $25,000 car with a $40,000 drivetrain. When driving to and from work you can lazily wander through traffic and never know the difference. If you find yourself a bit bored then all you need to do is mash the vertical pedal and I guarantee smiles will appear. Every. Single. Time.
I think his opinion is just that. Which is the point of his review. But if he had used the adjustability screen and took more than just one day with the car he may have loved it instead of just liked it. It is a 4 door sedan. It is made to go fast and be fun for people who like fast and fun. It's heavy for people who daily drive it. (all weather conditions) And you can also take it to the track. You won't be passing the German sports cars or other cars built specifically around handling for the driver and one friend. But it is a combination of all those things that I personally love about this car.
Great comment. I think the Europeans are just jealous because they have no idea how to make a car this badass that’s actually somewhat affordable for the everyday working man.
My brother has a Pullied E85 Hellcat Charger and man, hands down the funnest car I've ever driven. I own a C6 Z06 making 720rwhp but it doesn't compare on how good the 8-speed performs on the Hellcat, turns out it has the strongest automatic ever made designed by AMG shifts 20ms faster than the GTR's dual clutch trans and you don't get that crappy feeling of the dual clutch trans on low speeds. It's a big car but the way the power comes out through that positive displacement blower just makes it awhole lot funner. Rides amazing too when set to street mode. Hellcat will be my next car, crazy how you can get 900+rwhp without upgrading any components besides fuel system and driveshaft reliably.
Well this definitely more sedate than the Challenger, I'm not sure I'd call it boring. The R/T-and-SRTs definitely stand out in traffic from all of the other Chargers. Now, of course, because Dodge sells so many of these things, the basic look is very familiar, but again, the high-zoot Chargers are mos certainly not boring.
TheShowOff2I if u have passion for cars u can tell difference between base model and art or hellcat bcz hellcat is way more beefier than regular and it's sit down more low and u can tell the supercharger noise that's some thing is special
I see the Hellcat as a modern version of a Yenko Chevelle, or a Chrysler 300 Hurst Big, floaty, absurd amounts of power, but yet you have a special place on your heart or your imagination for it, due to its sheer madness.
It'll happen anyway, but before anyone else complains that it's ugly, too heavy, isn't made very well, and has too much power: 'Murica knows. We don't care. It makes noise and goes fast in a straight line.
Man, that's one of the coolest reviews that you have ever done! It's nice to see how you criticize the car, always comparing it to the more expensive, somewhat "better" german cars, but still respecting it and remembering its own merits). Great review ˆˆ
I think it's very noticeable. My dad owns a scat pack charger and every time he takes it out we get people trying to race us at ref lights and get, "hey nice car!" Every time we're in the city
great review as always! reminds me of the review clarkson did on the viper a few years back. he talked about all the bad stuff then concluded by saying he absolutely loved it! keep up the good work! if you think about how old this platform is (came out in 2005) dodge has worked a miracle with the hellcat! muscle cars are not about handling and build quality, they are all about the driving experience! I'd suspect you would have to drive a Ferrari at 9/10ths to get the same giggles you would get driving the hellcat at 5/10ths.
this car is made for people that love big engines alot of power alot of sound alot of fun and not so much focused on the interior its just a blast of a car to drive in you forget how shitty the interior looks once you hit the pedal to the metal!
Hellcat is power to the ppl, was never designed for track, It can if you want do track days, but its not a track car, it's design to give its buyer the biggest smile every time he/she drives to work, or for a cruise or for some grand touring. I's a car designed to make you want to drive (when was the last time you got your keys and drove just because you love your car?) that's where this car is a star, was made to be fun, to make you smile, make you happy without being paranoid having to sell your left leg or kidneys to use on the road in peace.I understand you have to mention those things, but giving the car is a street car, perhaps would've been more relevant to test this car where it belongs... public roads. Not a fanboy or anything, just keeping it real, this amount of coolness for this little money is unheard, and a soon to be dead breed, much props to Dodge while manufactures are building soulless no balls cars, they give to us the ppl a 707hp car that you can buy in 2 or 4 doors, to the average guy like me. This should be cheered
"Over 100 mpg, 0-62 in less than 5 seconds, fit a flat pack wardrobe and look incredible", sounds a lot like you are describing a Tesla Model X P100D. Perfect car, and no noise whatsoever...
Man I was on the parkway today an I swear I put my foot on the gas it was like everything was standing still . You feel almost like your showing off to a child . These cars are so underrated. I mean nothing was touching me it's completely a mans car
An Italian owned company that builds a car with an engine designed by an English guy and built in Mexico, inserted into a German platform, with final assembly in Canada. This is about the least American car ever.
MIKE192rotary you understand that power usually had 395 or bigger the tires are way too small needs at least 405. For that money the damn thing is cheap all over plastics and it's too damn heavy.
what are you talking about? the widest tires on any production car is 355's (VIper) 395s is a Flinstones type tire!!! Hellcats at the Track (the STRIP) run on 305-315's and thats Drag Radials.
If you want a European friendly super sedan, drive a CTS-V, it fixes almost all the problems you have with the hellcat. This is made for huge burnouts, street racing, bragging rights, and overall badassery. Also, while I'm not really familiar with Chrysler's Uconnect, I have never heard a complaint about it, and most people consider it to be one of the best infotainment systems out there.
i think the exterior is very attractive, suits a car like this, and it's way better than the current c63 especially from side and rear, the interior looks cheap crap though
I think it looks awesome. The more I see it the more I like it. At first, I didn't like the change from the previous generation, but like I said I now think it looks awesome.
For me it feels perfect, but you have to understand that it is not a circuit car, its just the biggest coolest sedan on earth. And the Challenger its just a big GT car. For me, thats the right way to look at it.
Love to see the different take on these. I own a challenger hellcat, have you had a chance to drive one of those? To me its a more lively experience than the charger, making it more fun, in my own opinion. But for what it is and the price it is, its tough not to love it, I daily drive mine and enjoy every minute...except having to fill up a lot haha.
Subscribed, I was a huge Top Gear BBC fan. But always had issues how they reviewed American cars by European standards. There are some benefits to these ridiculous cars and its nice to hear an unbiased review. I don't personally like the Hellcat enough to spend the money but this was a great review that made me curious enough to maybe test drive one.
I dont think they'll make it all wheel drive, it's a muscle car But i agree with the lightweight materials, if they can make the viper acr so light, they can do the same with the hellcats
Hakuna Matata It is just bad engeneering. European cars of the same sice are not that heavy. But you need the raw materials to keep the price of the car down.
The Viper ACR is a 2-seat (mostly) track car. Of course it's going to be light. The Charger isn't, and the Hellcat is basically a Charger with more power. Though yes, like what was said already, they COULD make it lighter if they used different and better materials, but you're not going to get a miracle.
The Standard Chargers weigh abotu the same as a 5 Series/E Class. THe Hellcat HAS to have extra to support the power. SC. Engines have to have the extra piping cooling requires to run trouble free. that alone adds 200lbs. without it, it would end up like most Z06's.....
This is one of the big differences between American and European tastes in so far as how we design cars. European manufacturers tend to inch their cars closer and closer towards track cars. All the engineering is geared towards track times, 0 to 60 times, some comfort and so on. And that's all fine. The American model is more about fun. Yes, there are some cars that go in that direction but more that try to be subjectively fun while objectively not as fast as their European rivals.
There are cars like this in Europe done by brabus, yes it is a tuning company but people by them, as well as other companies around the world. The difference is the price but a lot of people like to buy them.
I think you should go over pro's and con's better. Just a suggestion, but i think more categorization would be good, since it seemed you were kinda trash talking a lot about the Charger
Eedo Amitay - M5 may have a sophisticated underpinnings as far as undercarriage. But the price you pay to maintain it will be half the price of a hellcat and that is not even for tracking. For what this car is worth its a steal
I don't get what all British reviewers claim about American build quality. I had the previous generation Charger SRT for four years, worked perfectly fine right through and recently traded it in for a 2016 Jaguar XJ. I've had the Jag for a few months now and it has one of the worst infotainment systems I have every come across, which by the way was upgraded for the 2016 model, its camera stops working when it feels like, the door locks don't work half the time, can't play music out of a USB flash drive, the glove box opens by itself, and the list goes on.
I believe that American muscle is rubbing off on Ian. He said nearly the same thing about the Viper ACR and was very impressed with the Corvette Grand Sport.
Chalres Kirkland not exactly. He never really complained about the way the Viper drove, just that it was exhausting. I remember him basically saying it was a thrilling experience, and he loved the fact that it made him work.
I would spend a bit more and step it up to buy American's MOST powerful car (760hp) instead of settling for 2nd at 707hp if it's for bragging rights. Dodge need to upgrade it to 777hp to take that title back but probably still couldn't do 0-60mph in 2.5s.
I just wish they would make this in a two door form for those who don't want a retro looking challenger and want a modern looking sports car style not muscle...
I guess you could do a two door conversion after buying but its expensive weld back line of the rear doors chop 4 inches off the rear door add to the fronts move be killer back maybe section 3 to 6 inches out of the total length as I said expensive but in america people do two door conversions like this to evos, subarus, Lincons, mercs so its possible but wish dodge would just do it
***** your question is redundant if it doesn't mater why would you even comment obviously its preference and it would look more sporty and would be lighter I said sporty care not a saloon
boring looking? i have a scatpack and get nothing but compliments and thumbs up everywhere i go so i can only imagine how often that happens to hellcat owners.
And that's the problem with US cars... We've got the smarts to build excellent cars, but the execution falls short. There should be a some type of AWD system for the Hellcat line, 65% to the rear 35 to the front.
As an American I love everything about this video. "it's ENORMOUS!" No sir, that is a mid-size 'round these parts. Also, no one believes that this is a track car in any sense of the word. This is a drag racer/dick measurer
'Merca....enjoy it while you can people I don't think it's going to be allowed to continue as it has been for much longer. Yes it's fat loud and obnoxious, just like the car, but you also can't help but like it due to it's eagerness and extroverted personality, not to mention it's uniqueness.
RUclips Charger Hellcat VS All the Worlds Top 4 door Performance Sedans !!! Cadillac CTS-V,, Auston Martin Rapide,, Jaguar XJR,, BMW-M-5 ,, Mercedes S65 AMG !! Charger won in overall competition on the track and the Drag takeoff acceleration !! Race was sponsored by Motor Trend Magazine !! Charger handles Better than you would expect for a 4 door MUSCLE CAR and was way Less expensive than all the Competition !! First of all, who cares about the Track ?? Average Dudes never been to a Track Including Myself ! Charger Hellcat is a Damn Amazing Thrill to drive ! Car is Loud , Fast and Hot Looking !! Charger Handles good enough for Public Roads !!
This guy thinks he is Jeremy Clarkson "It is awful, I should hate it but I love it"...sorry mate you aren't...work more on the delivery....:-) Soft suspension?? Did you forget to set in track mode (which is brutal)??
Carlton Banks but that wasn't your argument. Your argument was "more power = more fun". Not "more power to weight = more fun", or "better power delivery = more fun".
Why are they driving this car on a track? They compare it to being the size of an Audi a8. Would they take the Audi S8 to a track to review it? Well maybe the S8 is aimed more for luxury than for performance. How about the s5 coupe or hardcore rs5? Nope didn't review those on a track either. I was quite curious to find out how the Hellcat drives on the road, but I guess we won't be finding that out.
I'll take this with it's flaws over a 5 series diesel any day or whatever else I can get for the price, and I'll probably save a bit of money too. Just because it has a "race" mode doesn't mean it was built for a race track, we all know that. There are other American sedans better suited for the track. That's what the CTS and ATS-V's are for. But you don't see many Brits taking them out for reviews. Why is that?
its still so weird to think that a 707 HP car can barely over take a V6 camaro... when the V6 camaro is coming with in 3-4 tenths of a second on a few tracks... something is wrong.
I doubt they intend for people to road race the hellcat besides at the drag strip so it makes sense while the Camaro and Corvette are how Chevy prove they can road race
ofc, i know that, but you would expect some decent dynamics out of this highest level performance product... when a V6 camaro is beating you int he canyons, back roads, and scenic routes... thats sad.
justin bouche I agree, but at the same time, I feel like dodge is the only American company that stuck to the muscle car roots. Big, bulky,good,heavy,not so great handling,good looking, fast,and a loud nice sounding engine. The GT500 and Camaro are more along the lines of a sports car in my opinion, especially with how much better they turn when compared to the charger and challenger.
like i said i understand that., but its the most performance focused challenger / charger ever, and a v6 camaro will walk it on a back road... like wtf
The Challenger and Charger share the same chassis as the E class from MBenz, Blistein Suspension and a lot of good quality things as German/Italian Cars , don't understand why you blame Dodge when it wasn't just them who designed the Hellcat
Chargers outside design is brilliant in my opinion.
Leuff Same!!
Leuff I agree, unlike some of these other people, I love everything about the Hellcats
Exactly. Even that central infotainment: sooo much more exciting than the audi.
Ngl in my opinion it's the best looking car interior is not bad but could be better apart from dat superb charger srt hellcat over any Germans for me
Funny how the same people who made the Hellcat (which is basically a boat) also made the Viper ACR which is the literal best handling and grippiest car on earth
Colds the handling of the Hellcat Challenger gave the Sam numbers as the Alfa 4c on the motortrend testing. It surprising can handle better than you would think
robm425 the problem is it still can't handle anywhere near as well as its Camaro/Mustang. The V6 Camaro came extremely close to outrunning a challenger hellcat around a track
robm425 it also went round willow springs slower than a 360 hp CLA 45 or a M235i
Methinks you need to add a qualifier to that ACR.
It's the best handling, grippiest, ROAD LEGAL car on earth.
I'm fairly sure if you throw the road legal requirement out, you can find plenty of cars that'll beat the Viper ACR.
Do you ever plan to do a jaguar XFR? or any more jags?
I don't think this car looks bad at all. It looks cool, bulgey and mean, just what an American Muscle is supposed to look like. However, if I wanted any of the two Hellcats I'd rather the Challenger Hellcat as I prefer the looks.
Interisting, Americans build a car with more aggressive style Brits call it Vulgar..... Americans build a car a little more understated then Brits call it a boring blob.
There is no pleasing them I guess. One thing I have learned about Brits over the years of talking to then and dealing with them is that they are the masters of the black handed compliment. Tell you everything they see as wrong just to in the end say eh but I love it.
Facts
The problem with this video is that they tried to take it on a track. Big mistake, as the Hellcats are designed to cruise around town in comfort and have more power than you would ever need at your disposal.
LOCO Fiesta then Dodge shouldn't have had a track mode as a feature.
DynamiteDupree Every performance car built today has different driving settings. Just because Dodge has a track mode doesn't mean the Hellcat's suited for the track.
LOCO Fiesta Then it isn't Carfection's fault the Hellcat sucks on the track, its Dodge's for including performance modes in a car that can't really hang. "It isnt meant for the track" doesn't excuse the car from having a bad track mode. If Dodge didn't want this car on a track they would have stopped at Sport mode. Then your argument would make more sense.
DynamiteDupree M cars and AMG cars have comfort modes, yet they're not meant for comfort. It works both ways. Nowadays almost all performance cars have three driving modes: Normal or Comfort, Sport, and Sport Plus or Track. The Dodge is no exception.
Actually RUclips Charger Hellcat VS All the worlds top 4 door Performance cars ! BMW-M5, Cadillac CTS-V, Mercedes S65 AMG, Jaguar XJR, Auston Martin Rapide !! These cars are all known for Performance and Handling ! Charger won in overall competition on the Straightway and Track ! Sure it's not going to handle like a 2 door Sports car ! But for a 4 door Performance Sedan it handles better than you would expect ! I agree if you want handling, You have the Porsche 911 GT2, Caymen GT4, Viper ACR, And many more !
Absolute ANIMAL! As you say, it makes very little sense, but you've got to love it for all its madness...
"I can't help but absolutely adore it!"
And that statement rounds up why many collectors and enthusiasts want a Hellcat to enjoy...and why I have one too. Nope, can't handle like smaller lighter cars. Can't get the power down without drag radials and a LOT of skill.
And yet...the silliest and most fun in a family car ever.
I can't wait until the JGC TrackHawk is released. Hellcat with AWD!
dont forget the hellcat ADR (American drag racer ) ,wide body big tires hellcat
Ayoub AL-awadhi yeah the widebody ADR is going to be sick, it looks like Dom was driving one in the beginning of the new Fast & Furious trailer
Either it was the ADR or he was driving the widebody Challenger GT concept from last years SEMA
813Productions the damn car is stupid only car I liked they got rid of the viper. The tires are not wide enough it's too heavy and slow for the power
lonewolf5460 idk what to tell you man different strokes for different folks. Damn shame about the Viper though, maybe they will bring that beast back in the future, who knows
I'm never quite sure what to think when people do a "British review" of something that's not British. Of course Jaguar's are all perfect and manual diesel wagons are a must...but that's clearly not what (or who) this car was made for. It's a throwback to American muscle from years past. It's heavy and powerful. It's not a track car and it was never intended to be. It's certainly not for everyone...but seeing as how I own one...I'm a bit biased. I can also speak from experience.
Overall though not a bad review but there are a few inconsistencies from common held opinions. I'm a bit suspect as to your take on the brakes for one. When reviewed by Car and Driver they said "Massive Brembo six-piston front and four-piston rear calipers grabbing two-piece rotors halt this car from 70 mph in 153 feet-averaging 1.07 g’s-with virtually no fade." How you note fade and think they're "made of paper" I am honestly not sure. They manage to bring the car from 60 to zero in 104 feet. Seeing as how a review in 2013 showed an Audi S8 taking 107 feet to do the same thing, I'd say it's pretty impressive for a car that weighs over 4500 pounds.
The infotainment system doesn't have too many options/buttons either. I half suspect at this point you're just trying to find things you don't like. If it had too few, you would say it's too bland and lacks versatility. I would also venture to point out that some people, myself included, actually like the fact that it doesn't stand out in a crowd. If I wanted something ostentatious then I wouldn't have bought this car. I rather like that it blends in. When I see someone give me a thumbs up it's because they know what it is and can tell it's not your average squad car or grocery hauler. I can put my whole family in it with car seats, luggage and all for a road trip that's not only comfortable but fun.
In the end, it's not a car for everyone. It's a $25,000 car with a $40,000 drivetrain. When driving to and from work you can lazily wander through traffic and never know the difference. If you find yourself a bit bored then all you need to do is mash the vertical pedal and I guarantee smiles will appear. Every. Single. Time.
I think his opinion is just that. Which is the point of his review. But if he had used the adjustability screen and took more than just one day with the car he may have loved it instead of just liked it. It is a 4 door sedan. It is made to go fast and be fun for people who like fast and fun. It's heavy for people who daily drive it. (all weather conditions) And you can also take it to the track. You won't be passing the German sports cars or other cars built specifically around handling for the driver and one friend. But it is a combination of all those things that I personally love about this car.
Great comment. I think the Europeans are just jealous because they have no idea how to make a car this badass that’s actually somewhat affordable for the everyday working man.
My brother has a Pullied E85 Hellcat Charger and man, hands down the funnest car I've ever driven. I own a C6 Z06 making 720rwhp but it doesn't compare on how good the 8-speed performs on the Hellcat, turns out it has the strongest automatic ever made designed by AMG shifts 20ms faster than the GTR's dual clutch trans and you don't get that crappy feeling of the dual clutch trans on low speeds. It's a big car but the way the power comes out through that positive displacement blower just makes it awhole lot funner. Rides amazing too when set to street mode. Hellcat will be my next car, crazy how you can get 900+rwhp without upgrading any components besides fuel system and driveshaft reliably.
Well this definitely more sedate than the Challenger, I'm not sure I'd call it boring. The R/T-and-SRTs definitely stand out in traffic from all of the other Chargers. Now, of course, because Dodge sells so many of these things, the basic look is very familiar, but again, the high-zoot Chargers are mos certainly not boring.
Adrian Brown Most people can't tell the difference between a base model and an SRT
you can DEF tell the differece as the base models dont even have Crosshair grills.
TheShowOff2I if u have passion for cars u can tell difference between base model and art or hellcat bcz hellcat is way more beefier than regular and it's sit down more low and u can tell the supercharger noise that's some thing is special
I'd say, as far as Hellcats go, a Challenger is more 'Murican than a Charger... but that's just me.
100% true. Challenger looks sexier too.
Nick Amarit I agree man
You guys do a great job! Really starting to love this channel. 👍🏾
The infotainment is fine, no idea what you're talking about
smh to many buttons, seriously?? as soon as i heard that i stopped the video.
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" I got myself a Hellcat."
Poor guy looks like he just about crapped himself as he was saying that.
I see the Hellcat as a modern version of a Yenko Chevelle, or a Chrysler 300 Hurst
Big, floaty, absurd amounts of power, but yet you have a special place on your heart or your imagination for it, due to its sheer madness.
It'll happen anyway, but before anyone else complains that it's ugly, too heavy, isn't made very well, and has too much power:
'Murica knows. We don't care. It makes noise and goes fast in a straight line.
Terrible car. I need one!
GT7786 Terrible car huh?
@@andrewhullinger3155 you almost got the joke
Why is it terrible in your wrong opinion?
He looks so tiny in those seats
2017 ZL1, RIP germans
7:29 around Nurburgring
Ahmad Majid AMG gtr. 7:10 from independent reviewer. rip
2016 Dodge Viper ACR got a 7:01.67
Man, that's one of the coolest reviews that you have ever done! It's nice to see how you criticize the car, always comparing it to the more expensive, somewhat "better" german cars, but still respecting it and remembering its own merits). Great review ˆˆ
Our track day at the SRT experience the brakes never faded. The Charger does have softer suspension than my Challenger.
Europeans don't get it
I think it's very noticeable. My dad owns a scat pack charger and every time he takes it out we get people trying to race us at ref lights and get, "hey nice car!" Every time we're in the city
great review as always! reminds me of the review clarkson did on the viper a few years back. he talked about all the bad stuff then concluded by saying he absolutely loved it! keep up the good work!
if you think about how old this platform is (came out in 2005) dodge has worked a miracle with the hellcat! muscle cars are not about handling and build quality, they are all about the driving experience! I'd suspect you would have to drive a Ferrari at 9/10ths to get the same giggles you would get driving the hellcat at 5/10ths.
this car is made for people that love big engines alot of power alot of sound alot of fun and not so much focused on the interior its just a blast of a car to drive in you forget how shitty the interior looks once you hit the pedal to the metal!
alot of power except the power is unusable.
ofcourse its ususable or els it would be illigal to drive.
Hellcat is power to the ppl, was never designed for track, It can if you want do track days, but its not a track car, it's design to give its buyer the biggest smile every time he/she drives to work, or for a cruise or for some grand touring. I's a car designed to make you want to drive (when was the last time you got your keys and drove just because you love your car?) that's where this car is a star, was made to be fun, to make you smile, make you happy without being paranoid having to sell your left leg or kidneys to use on the road in peace.I understand you have to mention those things, but giving the car is a street car, perhaps would've been more relevant to test this car where it belongs... public roads.
Not a fanboy or anything, just keeping it real, this amount of coolness for this little money is unheard, and a soon to be dead breed, much props to Dodge while manufactures are building soulless no balls cars, they give to us the ppl a 707hp car that you can buy in 2 or 4 doors, to the average guy like me.
This should be cheered
"Over 100 mpg, 0-62 in less than 5 seconds, fit a flat pack wardrobe and look incredible", sounds a lot like you are describing a Tesla Model X P100D. Perfect car, and no noise whatsoever...
Man I was on the parkway today an I swear I put my foot on the gas it was like everything was standing still . You feel almost like your showing off to a child . These cars are so underrated. I mean nothing was touching me it's completely a mans car
all those less powerful cars that you mentioned would still beat it in a drag race
gzilladude But its a 4 door car. Compare this to other 4 door cars around the world less than $75,000.... I'll wait
Carlton Banks do you want a better car or a more powerful one?
A more powerful one. Power is everything.
Protector of the Republic well then a modded evo off ebay
power is nothing without control.
An Italian owned company that builds a car with an engine designed by an English guy and built in Mexico, inserted into a German platform, with final assembly in Canada. This is about the least American car ever.
with coilovers and wider tires I think it'll grip and have more steering feel
315/35/20 in the rear...
MIKE192rotary you understand that power usually had 395 or bigger the tires are way too small needs at least 405. For that money the damn thing is cheap all over plastics and it's too damn heavy.
what are you talking about? the widest tires on any production car is 355's (VIper) 395s is a Flinstones type tire!!! Hellcats at the Track (the STRIP) run on 305-315's and thats Drag Radials.
405! Damn... that would be a steamroller.
you know? is he using Metric system lol?
If you want a European friendly super sedan, drive a CTS-V, it fixes almost all the problems you have with the hellcat. This is made for huge burnouts, street racing, bragging rights, and overall badassery. Also, while I'm not really familiar with Chrysler's Uconnect, I have never heard a complaint about it, and most people consider it to be one of the best infotainment systems out there.
if only it had 1,000HP...
BEEF05 Why?
because it needs to be even more insane...and that would make it even more american for an american like myself :P
BEEF05 It would be even more undriveable then it is now.
i said insane didnt i...
BEEF05 Insane does not have to mean undriveable
why do i feel kind of offended lol maybe its just my American pride is hurt.
And this is why something like an E63 AMG costs a bit more. Thanks for the honest review.
The Dodge charger is the most badass car in the world ! period.
Should have ordered the Dixie horn option like Richard Hammond. You'd liked it even more!
I love the slow shots passing the fuel signs that was on purpose
i think the exterior is very attractive, suits a car like this, and it's way better than the current c63 especially from side and rear,
the interior looks cheap crap though
He said the hellcat don't look good 🤦🏾♂️ you sound crazy that car beautiful. Engineered in DETROIT 🔥🔥🔥
I think it looks awesome. The more I see it the more I like it. At first, I didn't like the change from the previous generation, but like I said I now think it looks awesome.
He frikkin loved that car. How could you not. My heart belongs to Chevy, but I think this would come before my ZL1.
For me it feels perfect, but you have to understand that it is not a circuit car, its just the biggest coolest sedan on earth. And the Challenger its just a big GT car. For me, thats the right way to look at it.
i was waiting for this channel's review of hellcat
Love to see the different take on these. I own a challenger hellcat, have you had a chance to drive one of those? To me its a more lively experience than the charger, making it more fun, in my own opinion. But for what it is and the price it is, its tough not to love it, I daily drive mine and enjoy every minute...except having to fill up a lot haha.
"It's not very pretty." It's a muscle car.
It's designed to comfortably cruise around town and eat up expansive highways. If you want a more of an American track toy there's the ZL1 and GT350.
You should have chosen the Challenger Hellcat. The Charger is a unicorn with no real competition in its niche.
Subscribed, I was a huge Top Gear BBC fan. But always had issues how they reviewed American cars by European standards. There are some benefits to these ridiculous cars and its nice to hear an unbiased review. I don't personally like the Hellcat enough to spend the money but this was a great review that made me curious enough to maybe test drive one.
I think this car looks awesome, and I'm not American. One of my dream cars of all time.
My scat pack lease is almost up. Looking to grab a hellcat next
Fast=good. Control + power × madness =amazing
Wonder what you'd think about Camaro 1LE.
Sounds AWESOME 🤘🤘
The amount of power it has is definitely not an issue. The car is way too stable for 700hp. Not fun to drive
how about a set of pilot cup 2 to improve things?
More lieghtweight material, higher quality and awd and there you have your monster.
I dont think they'll make it all wheel drive, it's a muscle car
But i agree with the lightweight materials, if they can make the viper acr so light, they can do the same with the hellcats
Hakuna Matata
It is just bad engeneering. European cars of the same sice are not that heavy. But you need the raw materials to keep the price of the car down.
The Viper ACR is a 2-seat (mostly) track car. Of course it's going to be light. The Charger isn't, and the Hellcat is basically a Charger with more power.
Though yes, like what was said already, they COULD make it lighter if they used different and better materials, but you're not going to get a miracle.
The Standard Chargers weigh abotu the same as a 5 Series/E Class. THe Hellcat HAS to have extra to support the power. SC. Engines have to have the extra piping cooling requires to run trouble free. that alone adds 200lbs. without it, it would end up like most Z06's.....
Tomaz Hilton well the charger/challenger are built on the 90's e-class chassis
This is one of the big differences between American and European tastes in so far as how we design cars. European manufacturers tend to inch their cars closer and closer towards track cars. All the engineering is geared towards track times, 0 to 60 times, some comfort and so on. And that's all fine. The American model is more about fun. Yes, there are some cars that go in that direction but more that try to be subjectively fun while objectively not as fast as their European rivals.
Why are people always expecting for sedans not to roll??!!It's still a street car so no sedan is going to have stiff springs!
There are cars like this in Europe done by brabus, yes it is a tuning company but people by them, as well as other companies around the world. The difference is the price but a lot of people like to buy them.
very good reviews because you actually review the car...
Surely enjoyed this, you should review the Grand Jeep SRT, its essentially a Cross over version of the Hellcat. Enjoy American Muscle
I think you should go over pro's and con's better. Just a suggestion, but i think more categorization would be good, since it seemed you were kinda trash talking a lot about the Charger
My dream car
did you get it??
its been 2 years
How does the roll and brake dive feel compared to a current-gen M5? Any response is appreciated
Eedo Amitay - M5 may have a sophisticated underpinnings as far as undercarriage. But the price you pay to maintain it will be half the price of a hellcat and that is not even for tracking. For what this car is worth its a steal
i really like the looks of that car
Reupload?
I don't get what all British reviewers claim about American build quality. I had the previous generation Charger SRT for four years, worked perfectly fine right through and recently traded it in for a 2016 Jaguar XJ. I've had the Jag for a few months now and it has one of the worst infotainment systems I have every come across, which by the way was upgraded for the 2016 model, its camera stops working when it feels like, the door locks don't work half the time, can't play music out of a USB flash drive, the glove box opens by itself, and the list goes on.
If the car had a BMW grill, this guy would love the design.
I believe that American muscle is rubbing off on Ian. He said nearly the same thing about the Viper ACR and was very impressed with the Corvette Grand Sport.
Chalres Kirkland not exactly. He never really complained about the way the Viper drove, just that it was exhausting. I remember him basically saying it was a thrilling experience, and he loved the fact that it made him work.
Terry Price yeah, he's getting used to driving American muscle cars. They can be addictive. Hopefully, he test drives the latest Camaro ZL1 next.
I would spend a bit more and step it up to buy American's MOST powerful car (760hp) instead of settling for 2nd at 707hp if it's for bragging rights. Dodge need to upgrade it to 777hp to take that title back but probably still couldn't do 0-60mph in 2.5s.
lol 0-60 in 2.5? it can barely do 4......
I see the biased towards American cars but the cost of ownership buying a European competitor will cost you 15 - 20% more on top of actual price.
Europe doesn't need this.
We have Mpower, RS and AMG.
hannes something soooo junk, crap and trash then?
This thing looks like Mitsubishi tried to make a car look like an American muscle car.
looks like more of a flagship grand touring car than a track car
I just wish they would make this in a two door form for those who don't want a retro looking challenger and want a modern looking sports car style not muscle...
I guess you could do a two door conversion after buying but its expensive weld back line of the rear doors chop 4 inches off the rear door add to the fronts move be killer back maybe section 3 to 6 inches out of the total length as I said expensive but in america people do two door conversions like this to evos, subarus, Lincons, mercs so its possible but wish dodge would just do it
b pillar not killer haha😅 auto correct can be annoying
I would rather see it as a wagon. Or a big 4 door convertible.
***** your question is redundant if it doesn't mater why would you even comment obviously its preference and it would look more sporty and would be lighter I said sporty care not a saloon
***** smh lol happy holidays fellow carnut/gearhead 👍
Do y'all have a Z06 vid coming up, or Camaro?
No...
"Hello, did you enjoy that video?"
**LOL NEXT**
boring looking? i have a scatpack and get nothing but compliments and thumbs up everywhere i go so i can only imagine how often that happens to hellcat owners.
And that's the problem with US cars... We've got the smarts to build excellent cars, but the execution falls short. There should be a some type of AWD system for the Hellcat line, 65% to the rear 35 to the front.
As an American I love everything about this video. "it's ENORMOUS!" No sir, that is a mid-size 'round these parts.
Also, no one believes that this is a track car in any sense of the word. This is a drag racer/dick measurer
'Merca....enjoy it while you can people I don't think it's going to be allowed to continue as it has been for much longer. Yes it's fat loud and obnoxious, just like the car, but you also can't help but like it due to it's eagerness and extroverted personality, not to mention it's uniqueness.
These are everywhere in my town. Basic after awhile
Still one of my dream cars...
RUclips Charger Hellcat VS All the Worlds Top 4 door Performance Sedans !!! Cadillac CTS-V,, Auston Martin Rapide,, Jaguar XJR,, BMW-M-5 ,, Mercedes S65 AMG !! Charger won in overall competition on the track and the Drag takeoff acceleration !! Race was sponsored by Motor Trend Magazine !! Charger handles Better than you would expect for a 4 door MUSCLE CAR and was way Less expensive than all the Competition !! First of all, who cares about the Track ?? Average Dudes never been to a Track Including Myself ! Charger Hellcat is a Damn Amazing Thrill to drive ! Car is Loud , Fast and Hot Looking !! Charger Handles good enough for Public Roads !!
welcome my friend to a brick with wheels AKA muscle cars
Hey Alex, how hard is your job? Just curious.
How hard would you describe your own job to any job imaginable? If your job was the frame of reference.
This guy thinks he is Jeremy Clarkson "It is awful, I should hate it but I love it"...sorry mate you aren't...work more on the delivery....:-)
Soft suspension?? Did you forget to set in track mode (which is brutal)??
So the perfect car sounds like the Tesla Model S.
Ya'll fuckin invented this recipe. The Hammer, the original M5, c'mon!
Did they do a Jeep Grand Cherokee trackhawk review yet ?!?!
More Power = More Fun
Not true. Power to weight is where it's at. 130hp in 80's 900kg hot hatch is way more fun than 300hp in 2000kg sedan.
Carlton Banks Worst statement I've ever heard.
Carlton Banks so the 662hp Mustang GT500 is more fun than the 310hp Caterham Superlight 620R?
No because the GT500 cant put power down and everyone knows it. The GT350 is the Mustang to get.
Carlton Banks but that wasn't your argument.
Your argument was "more power = more fun". Not "more power to weight = more fun", or "better power delivery = more fun".
Why are they driving this car on a track? They compare it to being the size of an Audi a8. Would they take the Audi S8 to a track to review it? Well maybe the S8 is aimed more for luxury than for performance. How about the s5 coupe or hardcore rs5? Nope didn't review those on a track either. I was quite curious to find out how the Hellcat drives on the road, but I guess we won't be finding that out.
I'll take this with it's flaws over a 5 series diesel any day or whatever else I can get for the price, and I'll probably save a bit of money too. Just because it has a "race" mode doesn't mean it was built for a race track, we all know that. There are other American sedans better suited for the track. That's what the CTS and ATS-V's are for. But you don't see many Brits taking them out for reviews. Why is that?
its still so weird to think that a 707 HP car can barely over take a V6 camaro... when the V6 camaro is coming with in 3-4 tenths of a second on a few tracks... something is wrong.
I doubt they intend for people to road race the hellcat besides at the drag strip so it makes sense while the Camaro and Corvette are how Chevy prove they can road race
justin bouche This is not designed for the track..hahaha
ofc, i know that, but you would expect some decent dynamics out of this highest level performance product... when a V6 camaro is beating you int he canyons, back roads, and scenic routes... thats sad.
justin bouche I agree, but at the same time, I feel like dodge is the only American company that stuck to the muscle car roots. Big, bulky,good,heavy,not so great handling,good looking, fast,and a loud nice sounding engine. The GT500 and Camaro are more along the lines of a sports car in my opinion, especially with how much better they turn when compared to the charger and challenger.
like i said i understand that., but its the most performance focused challenger / charger ever, and a v6 camaro will walk it on a back road... like wtf
The Challenger and Charger share the same chassis as the E class from MBenz, Blistein Suspension and a lot of good quality things as German/Italian Cars , don't understand why you blame Dodge when it wasn't just them who designed the Hellcat
Nice car!
the hellcat doesnt look all that good and the mpg is absurdly bad wtf it looks great and has great mpg
13 22 is the hellcats mpg and thats the bad rating it can get up to 25 on the freeway
the r8 is rated at 14 22
488 is 15 22
huracan is 14 21
f12 is 11 16
I thought you were going to say goto motor trend ondemand to see the next episode