2022 BMW M5 CS vs Dodge Charger Hellcat Redeye // DRAG RACE, ROLL RACE & LAP TIMES
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2021
- The 2022 BMW M5 CS ($170,800 CAD as specced, ~$143,000 USD) and the 2021 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Redeye Widebody ($116,685 CAD as specced, ~$89,735 USD as specced) are two of the most powerful sedans to ever reach the market. Are they different in price? Yes. But are they different in experience? Also yes. However they do share the unique ability of providing unending thrills and tire-shredding excitement while carrying a car full of people. Thomas and James are excited to take these four door super sedans onto the drag strip and the track to see how capable they really are. Watch to find out what happens! SUBSCRIBE!!!
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At least the hellcat is supercharged so it can whine while it’s losing.
Hahahahahahahahah you’re too funny
The car is build for drag tho, it’s made to go in a straight line, not bending tight ass corners with all that weight.
@@2mighty69 which it also got smoked at.
@@2mighty69 it’s slow.
Epic 🤣🤣🤣
When they put the M5 CS in rear wheel drive mode and it still won, the shock I felt was immeasurable lol
and didn't use launch control while the hellcat did
Deutsche Qualität
@@chrisgarret3285 na the hellcat prob didn't use launch control to make it fair
@@TheFlyingClutchman He mentioned that he still used launch control in the Hellcat and lost
@@TheFlyingClutchman na it's just the fact M power is on another level! No competition at all come to find out!😄
That M5CS just may be the best most complete all purpose car ever.
Not maybe. It completely is
It’s between the M3 touring and the M5 Cs
Amg gt63. Just as fast and it has a bigger trunk
You really got to emphasize "car" though, because when you gotta leave the apshalt, that statement no longer rings true...
@@Solstare handling isn’t as sharp as M5 CS
M5 is in a league of its own. Absolute top engineering. European cars can’t be touched built quality and performance.
And they look boring as fuck and plain. Not interested
Over engineered garbage. Pleasure to drive, but a nightmare to maintain.
@@1HeatWalkover engineered is more pleasing than any American boat with wheels with some companies still 2 decades behind giving GM the chance to make the most mundane, boring, poorly built boats that can fit on American roads
@@liamcorr1215damn 😂😂😂
@@1HeatWalkima get a m 5 or 6 an hit that gas on a cat or scat
I 100% believed Dodge would name a color Camel Toe.
I was hoping it was true
No doubt! The real question is, however, who’s the hell is ever gonna buy and drive a CAMEL TOE!?
ruclips.net/video/Oy2KNgnV17M/видео.html
@@bengriffin5146 everyone has ridden a camel toe at some point 😂
I was thinking ... that car's color is "eggplant" actually, maybe this remark fits in the discussion ??
I love the Hellcat, especially the Redeye, but there's no denying that the M5 CS is an absolute MONSTER of a car.
Yea but no ones paying 150k+ so no one will really have them
EP 150k??this is chep compared to benz and audi top model cars
@@gill4ko123 Which Audi are you talking about ? This is the RS6 and Mercedes E63s competitor and it's more expensive than both. BMW are hella expensive, only Audi more expensive are the RSQ8 and the R8 (which is a naturally aspirated V10 supercar btw)
@@arthurpalushaj7271 Did you see how badly the hellcat got gapped... That much of a gap makes me feel that the M5CS is worth the extra 50k for the additional performance/luxury...
of course if u have the extra 50 to spend, that is
Sooo, apparently the BMW M5CS ACTUALLY has around 702HP at the crank. That along with the 500lb weight difference and AWD explains the performance. Truly insane stuff from BMW.
ppl just forget dodge makes garbage, excluding the Viper. Any other make same weight 150-200whp less and it will beat any dodge hellcrap every single time. way overhyped and you're still getting chrysler quality.
@@Dante_S550_Turbo But you can't get an M model for the price of a Dodge either 😄
@@shx7051maybe not a true m but the f22 m240i can pick one up for $35k and a downpipe and tune and it's faster than scats
That BMW is a work of art.
And masterpiece actually.
As much as I hate BMWs and it's community, that car is a damn unit
@@hambotorres7644 why do you hate the community?
@Max Oberg cause most of them are too c0cky, they think they have the best car and no other is better than them...they are the alpha person and stuff like that, I don't think they respect builds and others opinion
@@hambotorres7644 most of them are not like that luckily. Maybe you have just met the bad end of the bmw stick. The cars are awesome and very fun to drive, They are also a very big part in the tuning community :).
That M5 CS is just gorgeous to look at.
just get used to looking at the rear end lmao
Pure German Perfection 👌🏽
If only the M3 and M4 could replicate such splendour.
But the charger is gorgeous to listen to
Not really
YOOOOO THAT DRONE SHOT GOING IN TO THE HANGAR WAS SIIIICK
Sick af
@@tgfbroly5354 Sick AF for sure
@@thisguyfromyoutubesaid1537 they have all that shit. This wasn't meant to be a metered test.....
@@thisguyfromyoutubesaid1537 y u replying that in everyone’s comments
BMW Drift Fail | Wheel Fell Off The Car
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trying to beat a BMW on track with a muscle car is everytime like punching yourself in the face
Now imagine if Shelby Series 1 done this same thing.
😂😅😅😂EXACTLY…..GREAT COMMENT!……I DRIVE A 2014 Impala LT….134mph….! No Noise…Just Zooooom❗️
You clown
I beat them all the time home boy all the time💯👍✊️👊👏👏👏👏👏
Lord have Mercy on these daft breeze-block headed ''Trumpite'' Yankee yee-haw ''Mad-Max'' comedy-on-wheels contraptions when it's pitted against the *Formidable 2021 Porsche 911 Turbo S.*
“Ok let’s do a roll race because that will change nothing”
Legend😭
The paint alone on the Bimmer cost more than the car I drove for my entire 20s.
What do u drive now if u don’t mind me asking
so true, costs more than an e39
@@jonasf1275 MORE THAN E39 M5..??? 🤔🤔🤔
Well bmw paint is meant to last i have a beat to shit e46 but the paint is perfect
@@hoodiedrifts3994 true
“HOW MANY HORSEPOWER DID THEY PUT IN IT??”
Bmw: “it’s not the horsepower but the POWER of the horse😏”
👌🏽
💯😏
///M Engineers: "It's 635HP.."
Small print: *at the wheels*
@@ertugrulbae46 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣
Hellcat driver: "hold on, before we race, let me prep the driving surface"
Great review and I love the visceral experience you both had with the M5 CS!!! So awesome.
I feel like these cars embody two very different personalities. Dodge has always been about having a great time while going in loud and proud, while BMW has always been about combining luxury, power and precision. I’m a challenger guy myself but that BMW really just hits all the boxes
Surprised you haven’t got any controversial comments. But you worded it eloquently.
The inter webs does still have some respect. 👍
@@KineticTaco couldn’t have said it better!
I’m a bmw guy
So the dodge neon is about goin in loud and proud? Or what abt the avenger? Did that come in loud and allow ppl a great time? 😭 dodge got nun on bmw but i love the big rams. By the way, who has a dodge intrepid for sale? Asking for a friend
@@dussemccussay3995 doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize he's talking about the performance cars.
As Clarkson would say: “That M5CS just fucks off…”
“I’ve never seen anything like that…”
Yes! Rimac
That em-foiv just fooks off
@@LafemmebearMusic Huh?
@@stevem2323 google rimac. It makes the tesla plaid look bleak.
That 797HP is just for vibes 😂
We have officially reached the point where hp does not matter most. it's about how to bring the power down. traction (AWD, engine in the back), aero, shifting, turbo lag.
But this is too difficult to understand for an American. They just believe that putting a supercharged V8 in an enormous brick is enough to defeat a German car with 200hp less, but building a car is more difficult than that.
The Americans have to learn from us🇩🇪
@@pommerose8236 the Charger also suffered a lot in drag races against TVR cars tho.
@@pommerose8236 It's not. It's a balance of power, performance and affordability as opposed to luxury.
@@ErokCherokee a US car is a balance of power and performance ? Wait you see how your car got defeated I mean it wasn't just a few meters... Any 400 hp Porsche would defeat that redeye too... And affordability... Not really, in the same range of price many European cars could complete against a redeye, while being way more luxous and good looking.
@@pommerose8236 I love German cars, but they're not all superior to the Americans. There are different versions of the Mustang and Camaro to meet or exceed the capabilities of countless German performance cars at a fraction of the cost of their direct competition. Their chassis and powertrains have come a long, long way. Furthermore, the Corvette has always been a bargain performance machine that has gone toe-to-toe with its foreign competition. There was also the Viper, until recently. Let us also not forget that Tesla is an American company, and they paved the way for their foreign EV competition - which are still way more expensive, if we're to find competitors that can match the Teslas' power and acceleration figures.
Oh, by the way, not sure if you knew this but the Charger / Challenger / Chrysler 300 all owe their existence to Mercedes-Benz for supplying the base platform on-which these machines are built. The chassis has come a long way and gone through countless changes over the decades, but it started life in Germany.
I gotta say I really like that m5 cs color scheme
Yea. It also looked nice on the M8
@@thisguyfromyoutubesaid1537 can you stop replying this to every single comment
BMW Drift Fail | Wheel Fell Off The Car
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“Yeah, matte”
“No James, Thomas”
I lost it
That shit cracked me up so much more than it probably should've, my sense of humor is so fucked... do love me some good bit of truly witty banter tho.
was literally the cringest shit ive ever heard
Its top gear level fuckery
guys. the level of your production and quality of your storytelling through words and camera is INSANE. the best car review channel in the whole world, the best since og top gear. might be even better than them. great cars, greater content.
the M5 /M6 platform is a fabulous base. supercar from tuner performance! 1200 horsepower variants are pretty plentiful. Pretty compelling. Ive had a550i for years and love it, but its time to upgrade. M5 or M6 on the top of my list.
I love bmw but there pricing crazy 😂
I love it how he says it has more power than the BMW "on paper" 😂
Gotta love how BMW always underrates their cars
They do it on purpose
All of the Germans underestimate their vehicles' performance, especially BMW and Porsche.
This alone spoiled the entire video
@@ilyasovichbruh if you go into the comments at the beginning of a video don't be surprised if there are spoilers
the M5 CS is proof that BMW can still build an engaging/fun M5
Engaging, fun? This is fucking masterpiece.
Cost $143,000 to do it tho 😬
The M5 CS is a motoring masterpiece that stands alone, ive seen nothing like it before.
Anyone who buys it and looks after it, will soon see the price go north...mark my words.
Automatic cars aren’t engaging
@@PhatTok like any other German high end car, once that car leaves the lot, price will drop quite hard like a rotten sack of potatoes 🥔
Good review! Again one of the best channels out there by far. Less bro info and more practical info. The straight pipes is peak bro, Throttle house is middle of the road, and you guys are the perfect balance.
This awesome video convinced me so I pulled the trigger and yesterday ordered off my dealer for the M5CS. Props! and you've earned my sub
"How many horsepower did they put in it?" The answer is all of them.
About 800-820hp 😀
@@kisstomi1991 wait actually? Has anyone gotten the chance to pit it on a dyno and see if/ how much they're bullshiting by?
@@corwinblack4072 measured at the wheels?
Calculating power-to-weight (ignoring torque and gearing, and assuming the Dodge is actually 797hp, which it probably isn't) makes the BMW at least 730+.
No, pay attention, the answer is, rhe right amount.
It doesn't matter if you have 100000 horse power, If you can't put those horses on the ground and have shitty engineering, you won't be fast or good
Germans be like : we have different type of horses around Frankfurt
Yah, zeh are called stallions.
That's so true🤣
Hhhh I like 😘😘
dude hahahahahahahahahaha
Exactly. We don't feed our horses Mcdonald's. LOL! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“And I’m James!!!!!!”😂😂 kills me every time. 😂
Great review as always 👍
I know that feeling James had after the first launch / drag race where there is literally no blood left in your head from such acceleration that you are so lightheaded and confused what just happened. It's written all over his face, that M5 CS is a fighter jet on wheels.
I've had the same feeling on my Hayabusa.
The M5 at one time was just the best sedan without question. It has taken a while, but I think we are back there now.
Not really, the e60 was the best of its time, the f10 was also the best however we had new competitors, the french, itallian and Korean rising up and shining, f90 dropped e63s’s, rs6’s and many more
You both are correct and to add the M5 has always been the benchmark by which all others are judged by. Like it or not that's the truth.
@@afegasdf76y123e I read car magazines every day, and have been for years and year and years. The E60 wasn't always the daddy, mostly it was, but it wasn't as dominant as the E34 versions were compared to their competition in my opinion and this is just my opinion. F10 I think was a backward step myself and by this time the competition was crowded, again, my thoughts are about the level of dominance and I think the latest one is heads and heels above the rest in a way the much earlier, say E39 version was in its day. Just my 2c.
The e39 was the absolute best that’s why the values are climbing. The e60 was just legendary since was the last naturally aspirated and V10 the f10 seems to be totally forgettable and the least iconic m5. E34 m5 and e39s are already classic status
@@lionelanderson2368 the E34 M5 WAS THE LAST HAND BUILT M MACHINE!!!
Damn that's fast!!! I bet that thing would beat the new zo6.
I wish you guys would race that m5 against the '23 z06. I would pay to see that. It would teach all these z06 car flippers a good lesson.
I mean I was thinking about getting a demon charger, but this video changed my mind. Now I want one of those m5's. Or an AMG.
Great video guys!!! Very helpful. A real eye opener.
This is my favourite Throttle House video
Jeezus Christ this thing needs to see a dyno
BMW might be juicing their press cars. I'd like to see what the customer cars are producing.
@@galactictomato9168 if you use most previous performance BMWs all of them press cars or not have understated power figures
For BMW turbo cars, figure they're going to dyno close to their rated _crank_ hp. So 627 whp. Call it 725 crank hp. And that would give it a similar power to weight ratio as the Redeye. Only it won't heat soak as fast and it probably has better aero too.
@@ChurchAutoTest would you measure the whp in rwd mode or leave it in awd because rwd would yield more power ? but less likely to be used so would you just leave it in awd
I have a 2017 m240i which claims 335 hp, but I was somehow keeping up with cars pushing 400 hp. Found out people have been dynoing stock m240's at about 395 hp. BMW is cheeky af with their numbers for sure! At least with the m240i model
Don’t change a thing, don’t become like MotorTrend please, stay like this!!!
Motortrend went from having the greatest American car RUclips channel to just poop after they introduced MT on Demand.
I miss the days of Head to head with Jason Cammissa and Jonny Lieberman
@@Lungwun this’s the official explanation to my comment, VERIFIED
Yes believe me guys you are the New Auto Stars Show (( Top Gear))
Frrrrrrrr
@@moustafakassem2591 100%
I love how turns, both side turns are becoming more popular in the US
Once your car can also handle cornes it also makes really much fun.
@@adoggone5429 it also handles like Lotus Europa S.2.
I'm a BMW guy, but I would love to also own that Charger hellcat redeye.
Me too. I also wanna own Mini Cooper S Countryman Edition 2011 one day.
You'd thank yourself for keeping the Beamer, the Dodge will spend most of it's life at the Dealership.
@@danielfair4675 lol you mixed up BMW with dodge in that bs statement. nothing drains the bank account faster than a BringMyWallet
@@danielfair4675 You're actually a 🤡
@@Welcometofacsistube nah bro bmw is definitely more reliable than a dodge
Yep, the roll race proved the M5 is underrated at 620ish HP. Dang awesome car!
amen
Ive seen a couple of videos where they dynoed these M5 CS's, theyve hit 690 to 710 hp
yall forget about transmissions and weight XD but mostly the BMWs trans
@@GoonSquad710 gear ratios"
usually m5 cs has more hp than bmw says its making factory like 50hp or more than advertised
This is quickly becoming the best car channel on youtube.
Becoming? Been that way for a while.
Yeah I love the channel... They just need to find a smoother track. I don't think that's possible tho, with those Sub-Zero Canadian winters destroying the asphalt year after year.
Throttle House is good but it ain't TRC (that racing channel). Really just depends on what you like though.
This has been the best car review channel on YT for some time now.
2nd runner up to Carwow imo
As BMW X5 owner.... This was absolutely amazing and now I want a M5. CS
You should see how fast the M5 gets with just a base tune. Gets to 850hp. BMW is doing something special with these cars.
Was just thinking this, easily better turbos and tune would go crazy
@@itsphazeokay2876 pfff; good luck improving bmw's turbos
Love both of the cars. The M5 is like a sledgehammer in a tuxedo. The Hellcat is a sledgehammer in overalls and a beer belly.
Perfect description haha
Anyone with a lil bit of common sense would take the BMW over that POS dodge.more reliability better build quality and it will do more than just go straight...unlike the POS dodge.
@@dacountryone I mean at literally double the price I’d sure hope the BMW is better
@@dacountryone you mean anyone that can afford the BMW M5 cs will choose it. 😅
@@dacountryone you’d be surprised most ppl would pick the the charger over the bmw
"He's gonna make smoke while getting smoked" That's my quote of the day
Any true Hellcat fan knows they couldn’t launch to save its life😂 you’d need a 4ft wide tire and a track made of glue traps to get them to hook up
AWD WOULD HELP ALOT. that C's would never catch it by the 1/4 mile.
@@dooginladel6275 didn't they both race in rwd only and it still lost?
Like i said, put 10,000 in the charger. And it will leave four car lengths ahesd
Well the American musle cars stayed with real wheel drive system because the car enthusiasts that buys them wouldn't buy them if they switch to a all wheel drive system like the European and Asian cars because that a turn off for rear drive enthusiasts.
@@dooginladel6275 well go and tell dodge to put 10k in the charger besides BMW you paying a lot of money to get the finest things in life
Got my first car this year (a 2014 320i) and it's my dream to get something like that m5 in the future. Although I definitely wouldn't turn down a hellcat if I got the chance 😆
Fuel economy is crap on the hellcat but is very fun to drive. Take a MBW if you've the option but nobody would turn down a hellcat
First car is a 2014 let alone a bmw bruh
@@daftcow706 Yeah I'm not rich, I really had to really work to save enough for it. But I wanted to get something rewarding, but not too outrageous.
@@punisher3607 if you want to look at german sport cars that are decent price wise, check audi's S series, prolly one of the best bangs for your buck
@@xtruemw2 hey thanks for the pointer
James looked permanently scarred from the M5 CS launch lmaoo
Yep 😁😁😁
Do not know how to launch the Dodge so it was really pointless.
@@bighands69 didn't make a difference, RWD-mode M5 still smoked it. Dodge needs to better because they're the only ones who don't know what they're doing for RWD launching on the streets
@@masterwhopper414
It makes a massive difference. Somebody that actually knows how to drag race the car would get it to perform far better.
@@bighands69 what delusional reality are you living in lol
The Hellcat Red-eye loses every time once they racing into the top end. M5 has more power, period
Damn the production quality just keeps on improving.... hats off guys
Concur. That drone shot going into the hanger was awesome. I even liked the dusting.
@@thisguyfromyoutubesaid1537 they often do include their 0 to 60 times...they might have missed to include it in this video
Opposite of the production quality of american cars
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@@kraljtopkomentara1085 nobody asked
“These cars are literally impossible to launch on a non-prepped surface”
- dude from the hood: hold my blunt
3:20 "Yeah... matte.(Matt)"
"No james -- _Thomas_ "
pure, refined, polished 24 karat comedy gold
"There is a difference between *Fun Heavy* and *Annoying Heavy* "
~Thomas
And he thinks 4100 pounds is "light" lol...
When EV cars are “the future” you bet it is! Future safety mandates will make this a lightweight class too.
That goes for women to
@@mannypee205 lol
Square box lol
I looked at 5:33 and I was thinking, wait, what happened? How come Thomas didn't launch the Hellcat? Then a second later I realized he did and how ridiculous that BMW was! It literally made the Hellcat look like it was standing still from inside!
bcz of traction issues
@@rayyannaeem3062 I would be very curious what this looked like on a prepped strip. Though if a prepped track really would have made a difference then at least Hellcat should have beat or matched him in either the roll or rear-drive only race.
Me too. Wtf!
@@rayyannaeem3062 no, the BMW pulled away top end. It was all around quicker and faster
what’s even more ridiculous is the tesla plaid model S is a full second faster to 60mph i mean wtf lol
I love Thomas' reaction when he's confirming the hp of the BMW
What a great video. I love both cars.
The M5 CS makes me proud, its an absolute beast.
M5, the car is a legend.
What did you contribute to the developtment of that M5 CS that makes you feel proud?
Don't be stupid man... you can be proud of something you're a fan of. His name is "BMW M POWER", get a clue.
@@qwinn111 so he's a fanboy
Maybe he’s proud of BMW...
Im an M5 owner and im proud.
Who are you to judge?
And yes i am a fan, because of how they drive and what they can do.
They are a car that not everyone can understand and appreciate, clearly.
Its the original supersedan and is a legend to be reckoned with.
Thomas laughing his ass off about the drag race. James' brain is broken
@@thisguyfromyoutubesaid1537 maybe they just figure that since almost every other reviewer as well as magazine publication does it that it's sort of pointless. I can find four different magazines and about ten different RUclips videos that give me that information. Not saying I disagree with you, but maybe they just don't see the need.
@@thisguyfromyoutubesaid1537 they obviously don't do it due to money. They don't do it for other reasons.
@@thisguyfromyoutubesaid1537 STFU bot
James’ reaction during the first race 😂😂
Can’t wait to see people build this car
Blown away by how easily the M5 CS dispatched the Hellcat in all 3 types
I mean, it only beat it by a half car on the roll race. I thought it would be 1-2 cars honestly
925Redeye but that race was specifically hellcat favored and it still lost (and the gap wasn’t narrowing down either).
@@QuickF90 it’s crazily impressive that it beats it in a roll with 170 less bhp.
@@freddiejones4598 the bmw weighs a few hundred lbs less don’t forget
@@MM-su4gu but that’s part of why it’s so impressive. It’s more luxurious and still manages to be lighter. As it’s not just cobbled together like the dodge
That BMW is insanely fast 💨 it’s a killer on the road
It’s a killer in the service department too. Be sure to lease, never buy one.
@@aussie2uGA isn’t that the same logic for the dodge?
it's same logic for every performance car, all of them needs maintenance or go buy prius
@@aussie2uGA Like the Charger would do any better in the service department? Lol.
@@Tritonal92 Considering Dodge and it's sub-brands have place top ten and have been leading the American manufacturer listing on every annual government required repair records, and consumer reports far ahead of BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, and even Porsche for the last five years; factually, I'd say so.
i have an older 2012 550i M sport and absolutely love it the car is smooth and goes hard especially in sport+ has 120k miles on it bought it used a while ago and never a problem for those that hate on them as unreliable, just do the maintenance on time and little things do yourself. Been wanting to flash mod it to M5 specs being the same engine but going too just wait till i can get a used M5 off Craigslist from a grandma.
18:09 I agree with this my buddy has a 2020 Charger R/T I have a 2021 Challenger R/T track ready package. I feel the push from the ass end of Charger in the corners and feel the ass getting light in Challenger in the corners. Love driving both models in the twistys. That M5 is a monster for sure damn.
Proof that BMW can(when they want to) still build The ultimate driving machine.
Yes indeed
More like when sales director and EU regulations allow it.
They always could, but CEO's and state regulations stops them.
Also, electrical age is upon us.
Btw, this, 340i, M2, 8 series are insanely great cars.
It would be the ultimate driving machine again if all their sedans still gave you manuals
Bet they start catching fire again after sitting for a few days. 🤣
What a beast that M5 CS! Carwow should make a version of this race for the timings. Insane BMW!
Oh it's in the works bruh you know it is...
Im not clued as to their production concept but it I wish these guys put the times for us
Pointless to use this charger, no challenge
@@KorpiSoturi1 I think they're proving a statement on the Charger.
I recently bought a BMW X6 and hands down perfection
The M5 cs is just something else bro 😳 It's insanely fast
For almost $150k USD, it better be fast. It's 2x as much as the Hellcat.
@@V8_Diva It destroyed the hellcat in every way
@@kelvintorres924 like i said, for almost $150k, it better have.
@@kelvintorres924
A Redeye is not losing a roll race
To an M5. Thats not how physics
Work. Power-weight dont work like
That unless the M5 is underrated
@@panelsm7933 Also, the simple fact is, the crossplane setup and the "hot V" turbocharging setup the M5 runs is a different ballgame as opposed to the more typical supercharging arrangement run by the competition.
The transmissions are both ZF (8hp70, M5s), (8hp90, Hellcats) 8 speeds. Everybody uses them anymore. That part's not so special. So it boils down to mainly tuning and gear ratios there.
The reason the M5 beats the Hellcat boils down to the weight disadvantage and the better traction with the M5's AWD/RWD setup. I love Hellcats, but they don't need extra power, they need suspension upgrades. Smoky burnouts are fun, but you need to be able to get the car to hook.
I grew up salivating over M5 from 30 years ago. It's truly my dream car.
For me it was the 02 m5 and the. V10 M5..
When I finally grew up and had the money to buy a V10 M5 I went to the M5 forums.. and literally not a single owner said that they would buy it again. 😥
I decided it was best to not meet my heros.
@@dnegel9546 too many issues unfortunately for the V10 M5, idk why but I absolutely LOVE the E92 M3 more. I never used to be a fan of BMW until I saw that car in rl with the Electric Blue color 😩
@@wackysamurai1583 E92 is one of the sexiest bmw. And the sound 🤤.
@@dnegel9546 ah man, especially in santorini blue 🤤 I want one now haha
@@dnegel9546 plenty of good e60 m5s out there
Omg that dark green BMW M5 CS looks soo good I need 1 asap
Beautiful cinematography
“Let’s do a roll race because that will change nothing!”
These guys are the new OG Top Gear. The delivery, the production style and their narration. They really fill the void that was lost when Top Gear went with the new hosts. Excellent job Thomas and James!!
They’re much better than TG. More genuinely car oriented, while still being entertaining.
@@bjornar9026 I agree they are better. They seem genuinely excited
I like this show, they are entertaining but let's not sink into hyberbole. OGTG was and is the GOAT
@@facetiousmonkey5322 when you take the budget TG had vs TH I still stand by my statement. These guys hit the mark and do it on a relative shoestring vs what TG had.
@@mjrsouthpoint4740 we are not talking about the budget. Do you go into Gordon Ramsey and say Olive Garden is cheaper and therefore better? And BTW if you prefer Olive Garden over Gordon Ramsey you are allowed that. That's what makes life great, choice. Back to TG. I think what most of the kids here who didn't watch TG when it originally aired didn't realize was just how barren the landscape was for car videos. TG set the template for all the shows that followed. Throttle House, Savagegeese, Smokingtire... etc. I bet everyone of these hosts can tell you which Top Gear episode was their fave. Let me say i am a huge fan of Throttle House which i actually prefer over the Grand Tour. But to say they are the GOAT of car reviewers? Well that's your opinion but not mine.
I hope one day y’all can get your hands on a trackhawk and that CS…that’s the race we need
Trackhawk will be even worse..... Weighs more and its basically a moving brick with 0 aerodynamics.
America has a massive skill issue when it comes to making cars.
I love how BMW is one of the only companies to advertise power to the wheels. When they say 627hp. That’s what you get. That’s basically 700+ for what every other manufacturer is claiming.
They don't advertise 'wheel horspower' - they still claim it's the engine power
- they just lie about it to make the car performance look more impressive, the same thing McLaren and Porsche have been doing for the last 10 years or so
@@alenalavanja6543 The power they claim is basically the guaranteed power you will get in the worst conditions.
@@davidg8628 some of those cars, like McLaren 720s, have been dyno tested to have almost 100hp more than claimed; it is simply to make cars perform more impressively compared to competition that has correct hp quoted - that's all; don't believe any of those other excuses - it's not 'magic/german hp' or 'wheel hp' or 'hp in worst possible conditions'; it's just purposely understated
@@alenalavanja6543 765lt has 880-890 hp in the engine
How many people are going to read reviews or check real measurements vs those who just take the spec as the truth? Seems like bad marketing to me.
Thomas is a badass driver though, he makes drifting look extremely easy, where as James makes it look quite difficult.
Haha 😆😆 James u called out 😂
I do feel James is getting more talented though, but yeah Thomas makes it look second nature
@@LukeKraus360 oh no doubt James is picking up on Thomas’s talents.
@@dembeadam8401 where ? lol
And U C how long they hold the drift.
"Stupid BMW" 9:12 🤣🤣🤣🤣I'm absolutely dying!1
That "What the hell!" at the beginning killed me 😂
Wasn't even a race lol
Thomas's reaction on the first drag was golden. The shock/confusion, the pause, and then the incredulous laughter. Would love to see a continuous shot from his camera during that race instead of cutting to James, because that sequence was hilarious.
M5CS is THE BEST performance sedan EVER 😭❤️
Can’t wait for these two to review an Aston Martin Vulcan
I would like to see a dyno run with that BMW, and to see it on a scale. I think they underrated the power and overstated the weight...
They did do that. M5 CS is closer to 700
Best reaction I've seen on James face on that launch
M5 CS is finally a proper successor to the Legendary E39 M5
@Street Performance Bikes virgin
@Street Performance Bikes garbage? 😂 someone is salty he can't afford the new ones
Excellent review men, Cheers!!!!!!!!!😀
review sucked....bad camera work, all talking shitt instead of driving.....you just watch because you think their cute Gomer
@@chadhaire1711 I'm not American Pyle!!!!!
@@seinsmeld13 My sympathy....but I already knew you were a Limey with the "Cheers" comment..........
@@chadhaire1711 Canadian f&(ky.
both cars clicking at each other @27:07 was funny... they were having their own little convo.
I'm starting to doubt what German horsepower even means
Only BMW, they act like they have about 300hp more than what the specs states.
They lie to keep it legal maybe or its the torque that is always off the chart.
@@michaelgimenez4032 Porsche does the same thing
Their crank is actually their WHP.
Mercedes same thing. The Nurburgring King is the Mercedes GT BS & Mercedes GT63S for a 4 door 😂👍
@@MrAaronBrown1 much lesser power, but VW does it as well. 220hp gtis are getting that at the wheels.
BMW: Welcome to Grapplbees...
Dodge: I'm not hungry anymore
GApplebees
@@hexZ06 Thanks for the correction. 😉
technically grapple works too because its got hella grip ;)
The hellcat is also a fraction of the bmw’s price
These companies like to exaggerate...Is that a true +750 HP car? Because the specs on that M5CS is nowhere close. 🗣BMW you did the damn thing! Those "Hellcats" 👹🐆 now have to take a backseat for real.
Tuned M5 CS just broke 8's at 1/4 mile
Does cs in m5cs stand for catastrophic speed?
This M5 CS got James disoriented almost like his brain speed is working at 15% capacity 🤣🙌
I mean that M5 cs is so fast it got a bird poo before hitting the ground from the sky..
( At 8:18 a bird crapped on the BMW windshield..)
LMAO
James was gone! He couldn’t wrap his mind around the speed! LMAO!
@@poplaurentiu4148 ruclips.net/video/j7YqdGt19tw/видео.html very slow car nowadays
@@colinsmith3938 If i want a track /performance oriented car is not going to be a Tesla S plaid, because that is slower than Rimac Nevera and Nio EP9..
ruclips.net/video/GUB1z5wr5p8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/hvQ8FiWpnJ0/видео.html
"Yeahhhh, matte"
"No James, Thomas"
I lost it at that🤣🤣
Shots fired at carwow
That's mat watson from carwow.
@@Robin-lc9go At what minute was that? I probably missed it :))
@@DiabloSsj3 at 3.20, bro.😂
@@Robin-lc9go thanks bro! much appreciated :)))))
My dream car M5 cs :) quality craftsmanship an raw powerhouse!
“May I remind you for this year I have a new hood” 🤣
Love it, if there is such a thing as the "CS team" at BMW they are killing it!
Then that will be another sub division to the M division
They had the M team build a M3 pickup back in 1986 and again in 2011 a E92 M3 and that one passed all the regulations and was an official truck.
The AWD system makes a big difference in any car specially in the drag races.
Thats why they turned it off
That's why audi takes off very quick
Sure does, but the kitty lost even in rwd mode. The bmw is just stupidly more expensive so I'm not really bothered by it. Also, the bmw didn't use launch control in RWD mode, while the kitty did.
@@denisdeari1
The rwd mode race is total BS 😂
M5 in drift mode doesn't have TC
Heres proof of the rwd mode 0-60 ruclips.net/video/eOV8ncp1K8M/видео.html
@@M340B58
Watch the video i shared with him
The M5 got 2.9 in X Drive mode &
3.8 in drift mode. If u think a rwd
Car with no TC is out launching a
Car with tc. U believe in fairy tales
James was in shock a full 2 mins after the first drag race. Lol.
Being an old M5 driver from the early 90's, this was not a shock to me. Being a Charger driver today, I can safely say, the Charger is a hooligans car. The M5 CS is a precision professional heavyweight boxer. Both are impressive machines. In Europe, I would want the M5. In the USA, it is equally impressive. But the the Charger is just more fun. Face it, where do you get to run out either on a regular basis? Between stop lights, the M5 will eat the Charger up. But the Charger sounds wicked and will draw a lot of attention. I personally love the sound of the Charger and you can have a blast in it and not get into trouble. IF I wanted a canyon carver, obviously the M5 is the choice machine.
M5 CS is just about 25 years ahead of the hellcat redeye when it comes to engineering but that dodge also makes some heart pumping excitement from the engine.
No it is not.
Overrated german junk
It's for handling that why is heavy
@@issavibez394 u mad bro?🤣
@@cazantrabant519 na its true ive even seen a cts v smoke a E63 i send a link