My favorite real life lore fact is that the planed United States space force deep exploration vessels straight up look like Paris class frigates without the guns. Honestly the United States space force just wares it's inspirations on it's sleeves, uniforms straight out of Battlestar Galactica, An insignia straight out of Star Trek, And now their warships ....er I'm sorry definitely peaceful exploration vessels (please ignore the radar arrays, thick armour plating, hilariously high energy generation, and all the mysteriously completely empty and unused spots on the hull that have direct connections to the generator and That seem to be perfectly positioned for the placement of energy weapon turrets like lasers and railguns.... Definitely just a coincidence No need to look into it any farther) are straight out of Halo. Like seriously at this point I wouldn't be surprised if we get a US Marine Corps Space Marines branch announced in the near future, and if their armor turns out to be bright blue with a golden Latin symbol on the shoulders.
Gotta love the actual in-lore diverse designs of the ships. Some batches look they have a standardise designs which may seem a UNSC policy pre-war or those ships are made from the same company while others look completely outta of it much like in the real world.
12:02 A notable Halberd-Class Destroyer is the UNSC Iroquois, commanded by Jacob Keyes. It performed the Keyes Loop, which gave Keyes enough recognition to become in charge of the Pillar of Autumn.
@@Hendog1001 dont worry man for that there is plenty of stuff to choose from, even stuff from the games. i’d really recommend them! beautiful graphics wise and gameplay still holds up today
9:56 that will forever be my favourite BTB map in Halo Infinite because of the Mulsanne Class Frigate and the CAS Class Assault Carrier. It’s genuinely so epic when the team captures the flag and you get to see the Frigate fire.
A note on the halcyons. Though something like 50 odd of them were built, maybe even as much as 100, only about 8 had the internal bracing seen in the original design. This was due to the sheer cost of the build and time to manufacture. On another note, i think it was the stalwart class that only had about 12 of them built in total
What? No? The stalwart was one of the most numerous UNSC frigate classes. In the lore there's at least 80 individual appearances of distinct Stalwarts, and it can be assumed they were produced into the hundreds.
@@amistrophy if not thousands when you consider the losses unsc fleets would suffer later in the human covenant war once the inner colony sieges started
Isn't the number 12 supposed to be the number of the batch that In Amber Clad was part of? Knowing Stalwart was supposed to be easy to build even in the least established shipyard, it's easy to see how they would have been the most built ships of the war And tbh probably the most destroyed since we barely see any post war
@@aidanhelfrich4887 Possibly even being replacements of earlier lost ships of the same name. This would explain why the In Amber Clad has such a low registry number despite being a relatively new vessel in 2552.
Glad you started doing longer content. I love halo and knowing more about the lore just makes me wanna replay the games from the start. I’ve always wanted to know more about the prophets
The infinity and eternity were not designed with the decommissioning of Halo rings originally. They were being made during the Covenant war as a last resource in order to safeguard a portion of humanity, in case Earth would fall.
Yeah idk why people don't get this. The infinity wasn't built for combat . Well it was as much as they could but it's main purpose was to run very far away and make sure humanity survives in some form. The games didn't explain this well. It's not a good ship for combat.
@@Pierce1996h I got redesigned and was best ship in post war galaxy... till 343 decide it is "meh" and Brutes can take it. A SHIP that took on Mantle Approach! Halo for me died with shiteshow of game which was Halo Infinite
Forgot the crazy Artemis class battle cruiser! The first like 10 maybe 12 were a stealth like model and the 2 macs could knock out a CAS class in one hit, at extreme ranges
The Artemis wasn't mentioned because it isn't Canon. It's Fanon. That claim is also highly dubious since the CAS of the Prophet of Regret at the beginning of Halo 2 was implied to have survived several direct hits from ODP Super MACs before making atmosphere over New Mombasa. The MACs on the ODPs being the strongest MACs ever created before the Post-War Era.
"Extreme Ranges" doesn't mean anything with relation to the power of projectile weapons in space, because projectiles don't slow down with distance in a vacuum without some outside force acting on them. So any projectile has infinite range until it hits something or is otherwise acted on by an outside force (like gravity, hypervelocity impacts with space dust, electromagnetic field variations, etc.). Effective weapon ranges in space combat have everything to do with how fast the attack moves versus how fast the target can dodge. With lightspeed weapons like lasers, this makes their effective range probably somewhere around a light-second or two, depending on how erratic the target's evasive maneuvers are. For a kinetic weapon like a MAC cannon, which fires its projectiles at a tiny fraction of light speed? The effective range on those drops pretty dramatically unless you caught the target completely by surprise before they realized they were even in a fight. No matter what weapon system you use, the second your target starts changing its course, your effective range drops commensurately with how fast they are maneuvering.
In my opinion when the time comes for humanity to become a spacefaring civilization I feel that the starships of the halo are the closest representation of the kind of ships we will use to traverse the universe.
Armor will be thicc and sturdy to make sure things like high speed debris and radiation can't penetrate the hull FTL could only be achieved by using wormhole tech like slipspace, warp, and hyperspace. Armaments have to be easy to resupply, either using very simple and easy to produce ballistic projectiles or energy weapons thar use rechargeable battery banks. And unless we meet aliens they will be perfectly suitable for blowing up dangerous asteroids and dealing with human piracy or rebel groups
i'd love to see this channel continue to grow, it is truly one of the most fun ways to engage and digest Halo lore outside of reading through the books! Keep it up dude
I'm grateful someone does detailed and awesome videos of halo related stuff like this. Seen your tiktoks and now watching your RUclips videos. I appreciate your content keep it up!❤❤
Well for perspective, the Infinity could hold around 10,000 crew, not including Spartan IVs and you can only go down from there. At best, something like a Paris-class could hold upwards of a thousand or more while something like the Orion-class would hold 3K to 4K.
@@insertsomethingfuni2617the reality is these ship let’s say if they were to exist in real life, they could hold up to let’s say 20 or 30 thousand people, for example the infinity, because a real life US navy carrier has up to 5k people and is the size of a halo frigate hell the halo frigate or 500 longer and wider next to a us navy carrier, soo crew size doesn’t make much sense in the games.
Spirit of fires 1st life as a ship was a colony ship. It was then taken by the unsc and refitted to become a support vessel. There isn't a specific naval term given to the ship but I think expeditionary assault carrier would fit. Carrys forward operating bases, short swords, vtol's, drop ships and various land vehicles
A video idea I'd love to see are the people who played a role in making cheif who he is people like Halsey, Johnson, General crother(the odst commander in operation silent storm), the commander/traitor of the prowler task force you mentioned earlier, and Sam. Plus, a dive into some of the operations like silent storm would be awesome
Very good video! Well structured and comprehensive. Just a couple nitpicks: 1. Epoch is pronounced 'e-pock' not 'e-potch' 2. The UNSC Trafalgar is named after a real place and pronounced 'tra-fal-gr' Tiny things though, excellent job overall 🩵
The Pillar of Autumn was able to fire 3 light splinter mac rounds (think of them as shredder rounds) on one charge where most ships used Heavy Rounds and can only fire one per charge. This was very affective for the Autumn for being able to take out shields with the first two rounds and simultaneously firing Archer missles with the third Mac round for maximum damage
Thank you for covering over the UNSC Fleet I really love spaceships. Too bad we couldn't get to see more of the Halcyon class Heavy Cruiser that ship looks more like a Dreadnought then a Heavy Cruiser
01. GA Humanity's (on the non-'time of peace' section of theirs. the military part of their current era's from before) or (post-Human-forerunner war ancient Humankind era) UEG era Humankind's UNSC military. ....
I really wish there was a Halo game like Dreadnought but for Halo ships. Or a gamemode in a Halo main game where we fly Sabers, playable Elite players fly Seraphs. Would dog fight in space maps with UNSC, Covenant, Banish, or Sword of Sangilous ships. With the background being a fleet battle the map be a 1 on 1 ship battle like Star Wars Battlefront.
The Autumn Class ships don't SOUND that bad, but these things are a whole different level of problem compared to the Marathon and Halcyon ships. But it's worth mentioning that although it has just one MAC gun, it's one very similar to the Autumn's. It can fire more than once in a charge, which was one of the Autumn's upgrade packages. Except unlike the Autumn, it's using a heavy coil gun with this modification. So 3 rounds back to back to back into a single target. That will destroy a Cruiser and severely damage a Dreadnought. Otherwise they're quite well armed in the broad strokes. They are also equipped with cutting edge detection and targeting equipment designed from reverse engineered Covenant stuff. This is great for combat, but the actual reason is that the UNSC fully intends to refit them with more powerful and advanced weaponry in the near future. Plasma weapons and heavier electromagnetic weapons we're starting to see the UNSC use. It's also only the exterior of the Halcyons that were reused. This is because ALL of these ships have a honeycomb super structure like the Autumn's, which most Halcyons did not. Meaning they are durable enough that they can take shots into non-critical sections from anything as large as a Super Cruiser or even presumably a CAS Carrier. They have tons of armor, which is actually designed to melt off and prevent plasma rounds from melting through more than a small section at a time. In addition to sectional energy shielding, these ships can take an ungodly amount of punishment. They are also very fast given that they have much improved engines compared to what the Halcyons had. Given what we know about the Autumn's performance and the fact this is a considerably more powerful version of the Autumn's upgraded variant, it puts these ships at roughly 15 times (UNSC losses 3-1 ships, this ship appears to be capable of fighting outnumbered by 5-1) the combative effectiveness of an average UNSC capital ship from the middle of the war.
This isn’t true, if you are referring to the ridiculously low crew count. The reason why is basically on the account of the fact that the UNSC makes use of smart AIs. Also since UNSC ships are pretty much taken up by the engines and MAC, especially frigates were pretty much built around the MAC and engines
@John-11739 I am actually referring to the fact that the stated size of the ships is such that a longsword fighter wouldn't fit in the hanger bay of the Pillar of Autumn and the scaling from that point in official sources is off. Instillation 00 did a video on this issue. The use of AI doesn't excuse the scale of the ship being too small to be a functional warship. ruclips.net/video/CH1STi9thUc/видео.htmlfeature=shared Yeah he calculated in the video linked above that the ships need to be increased in size by 2.65 times the original scale stated in the lore. In order for the ships to be functional. AI can do a lot but AI can't manually repair and rearm a ship in a hanger bay that the ship doesn't actually fit into because of the scaling of the ship. The Autumn for example is 1,170.63 meters long and the hanger bays are located on the sides . This needs to be scaled up to fit the craft it is supposed to carry. So if we do that then 1,170.63 meters times 2.65 equals 3,102.16 meters which gives the room to have the hangers be fully functional. Then we have the scale up all the other ships by the same in order to keep them consistent with each other. And yes this means the Covenant ships are like wise much larger when scaled properly. Also neither the Covenant or UNSC's actual fleet numbers have ever been officially declared so both sides could have thousands or millions or even billions of ships in total. The UNSC being on the thousands to millions end of that equation. Given the colony numbers involved with the UNSC and use of AI in construction of ships and automated shipyards.
Small quibble: "Epoch" is pronounced like "EH-pok", not "ee-POTCH." Similarly, "Punic" is pronounced "PEW-nik", not "POO-nik." And lastly, "Charon" is pronounced "KEH-run", not "shair-AHN."
Great video but there are a number of minor verbal errors that while they do not detract from the video in anyway I do think are important to point out. 1. Epoch is not pronounced "E-Posh" but is rather pronounced "E-Pock". 2. Punic is not pronounced "Poo-Nic" but it rather pronounced "Pyu-Nic" 3. The name of the named Punic you brought up, the UNSC Trafalgar, is not pronounced "Taf-La-Gar" but "Truh-Fahl-Gar". 4. When listing the Punic Class's weight you forgot to add the word "Million". It's weight is 670 Million tons, what was said was that it weighed 670 tons. Okay that's enough of me being the grammar police for the day XD
We do not know exact numers of UNSC ships or even the Covenant before the war. However, seeing how Reach was defended by about ~150 capital ships (the max), and we see that the Fifth Fleet was like ~70 ships.. times that by at least 17.. add in the CMHA Navy (might have misspelled that) and they probably had several thousand vessels. Before the war ends, Lord Hood, the commander of the UNSC, makes it perfectly clear that the UNSC Navies strongest remaining forces, being the fleets at Earth, were nearly incapable of combat. He could only committ 7 Charon Light Frigates and a couple dozen LongSwords to attack Truths ship. Humanity's Navy was after the war gutted and was a shadow of itself. My conclusion: Pre war: several thousand capital ships, many more built during the war albeit mounting losse. Post War: Maybe a hundred at most, if we are being generous. Dozens at minimum, mostly scattered across the remaining Inner Colonies.
I like this style of video. One tip though. Put the numbers on the screen for us to see as you read them off. Just a tip for the future. KInda hope you can re-do this video with that information on screen at some point as well. :)
I kind of dislike the change in later Ships starting to deploy Lasers. Like I get the technology is progressing, but would much rather still see MAC's being the principle, just suped up with the tech, as this distinction was what separated the Humans. Now they are just becoming clones of the Covies or Forerunners.
is that the scaled actual size lore accurate sizes in the game? these things are huge. the biggest on is 60 football fields in length. that would be about 290 empire state buildings in length
I just wish we got a good halo show. It's crazy I come to all these halo channels for my halo fix. And a multimillion dollar project can't even get people that like halo to write or produce for them.
Loved the attention to detail but just for a future tip, it may be a good idea to be able to properly be able to pronounce the class names of some of these ships in order to better represent the content especially for those who have an intimate knowledge of halo lore. Example is the Charon class isn't pronounced like chair-on its more like care-on and Epoch is pronounced like E-pok.
only the ships made after the human covenant war had shields, so mainly the infinity, strident and from what i read on the wiki the post war autumn class heavy cruisers
This has very little to do with the video but one of the things I like about the game space engineers is the fact that I could build all of these ships in almost perfect scale size and see what they would look like in real life almost lol 😂
The orion class assault carriers look like assault rifles. Ive always though they look like a gun since combat evolved then it turns out they even have a big cannon in the front. I mean what's the deal with that? Was that on purpose?
Good video overall, chief, but most of what is said is speadrunning through the wiki. I think it wouldve gone better if you looked at each ship in depth and went more over each ships tactics and role in the UNSC, and less saying numbers without context
I love that the UNSC fleet is so fleshed out, but the look of the Paris/Charon/Stalwart frigates are just so iconic. Love the lore content!
My favorite real life lore fact is that the planed United States space force deep exploration vessels straight up look like Paris class frigates without the guns.
Honestly the United States space force just wares it's inspirations on it's sleeves, uniforms straight out of Battlestar Galactica, An insignia straight out of Star Trek, And now their warships ....er I'm sorry definitely peaceful exploration vessels (please ignore the radar arrays, thick armour plating, hilariously high energy generation, and all the mysteriously completely empty and unused spots on the hull that have direct connections to the generator and That seem to be perfectly positioned for the placement of energy weapon turrets like lasers and railguns.... Definitely just a coincidence No need to look into it any farther) are straight out of Halo.
Like seriously at this point I wouldn't be surprised if we get a US Marine Corps Space Marines branch announced in the near future, and if their armor turns out to be bright blue with a golden Latin symbol on the shoulders.
@@anarchyandempires5452 Source? would like to see this ship been looking and really want to see it ngl
Halo has some of the best, deepest, and interesting lore of any space movie or game.... star wars can't touch it in my opinion
@@anarchyandempires5452source? I wanna see this
@@dark_honors02did you find it?
Gotta love the actual in-lore diverse designs of the ships. Some batches look they have a standardise designs which may seem a UNSC policy pre-war or those ships are made from the same company while others look completely outta of it much like in the real world.
12:02 A notable Halberd-Class Destroyer is the UNSC Iroquois, commanded by Jacob Keyes. It performed the Keyes Loop, which gave Keyes enough recognition to become in charge of the Pillar of Autumn.
Never played halo never had any interest in it till I found your tictoks now I can’t get enough of this lore
i want a video on the most ridiculous thing the master chief ever pulled off…
@@Hendog1001 dont worry man for that there is plenty of stuff to choose from, even stuff from the games. i’d really recommend them! beautiful graphics wise and gameplay still holds up today
The early eric nylund books, Fall of Reach and First Strike, really set the stage and were great sci fi in their own right
Be like me: dislike the games, love the lore
It was the same for me, it was the UNSC Navy content that sucked me in over a decade ago.
9:56 that will forever be my favourite BTB map in Halo Infinite because of the Mulsanne Class Frigate and the CAS Class Assault Carrier.
It’s genuinely so epic when the team captures the flag and you get to see the Frigate fire.
I love how from Halo 3 to halo 4 the Forward unto Dawn remnant piece went from a Charon class to a Stridant class. I never hear anyone mention that
I love the older halo games and the music makes me nostalgic i love the music
Ah yes, the famous battle of Taflagar (Trafalgar.)
Hurt my ears
Had to a double take on that one
The war between Sparta and Athens or The Persian war against the Greek world.
Dont forget the eh-poche and poonick
A note on the halcyons. Though something like 50 odd of them were built, maybe even as much as 100, only about 8 had the internal bracing seen in the original design. This was due to the sheer cost of the build and time to manufacture. On another note, i think it was the stalwart class that only had about 12 of them built in total
What? No? The stalwart was one of the most numerous UNSC frigate classes. In the lore there's at least 80 individual appearances of distinct Stalwarts, and it can be assumed they were produced into the hundreds.
@@amistrophy if not thousands when you consider the losses unsc fleets would suffer later in the human covenant war once the inner colony sieges started
Isn't the number 12 supposed to be the number of the batch that In Amber Clad was part of?
Knowing Stalwart was supposed to be easy to build even in the least established shipyard, it's easy to see how they would have been the most built ships of the war
And tbh probably the most destroyed since we barely see any post war
@@Bernorisyou are correct! All 12 of these Stalwarts were destroyed by the time of the Battle for Earth.
@@aidanhelfrich4887 Possibly even being replacements of earlier lost ships of the same name. This would explain why the In Amber Clad has such a low registry number despite being a relatively new vessel in 2552.
What I like about Halo is that the game's lore history has dates and place of important events.
Glad you started doing longer content. I love halo and knowing more about the lore just makes me wanna replay the games from the start. I’ve always wanted to know more about the prophets
The infinity and eternity were not designed with the decommissioning of Halo rings originally. They were being made during the Covenant war as a last resource in order to safeguard a portion of humanity, in case Earth would fall.
That's dark
They really are behemoths
Yeah idk why people don't get this. The infinity wasn't built for combat . Well it was as much as they could but it's main purpose was to run very far away and make sure humanity survives in some form. The games didn't explain this well. It's not a good ship for combat.
@@Pierce1996h I got redesigned and was best ship in post war galaxy... till 343 decide it is "meh" and Brutes can take it. A SHIP that took on Mantle Approach! Halo for me died with shiteshow of game which was Halo Infinite
Forgot the crazy Artemis class battle cruiser! The first like 10 maybe 12 were a stealth like model and the 2 macs could knock out a CAS class in one hit, at extreme ranges
The Artemis wasn't mentioned because it isn't Canon. It's Fanon. That claim is also highly dubious since the CAS of the Prophet of Regret at the beginning of Halo 2 was implied to have survived several direct hits from ODP Super MACs before making atmosphere over New Mombasa. The MACs on the ODPs being the strongest MACs ever created before the Post-War Era.
"Extreme Ranges" doesn't mean anything with relation to the power of projectile weapons in space, because projectiles don't slow down with distance in a vacuum without some outside force acting on them. So any projectile has infinite range until it hits something or is otherwise acted on by an outside force (like gravity, hypervelocity impacts with space dust, electromagnetic field variations, etc.).
Effective weapon ranges in space combat have everything to do with how fast the attack moves versus how fast the target can dodge. With lightspeed weapons like lasers, this makes their effective range probably somewhere around a light-second or two, depending on how erratic the target's evasive maneuvers are. For a kinetic weapon like a MAC cannon, which fires its projectiles at a tiny fraction of light speed? The effective range on those drops pretty dramatically unless you caught the target completely by surprise before they realized they were even in a fight. No matter what weapon system you use, the second your target starts changing its course, your effective range drops commensurately with how fast they are maneuvering.
In my opinion when the time comes for humanity to become a spacefaring civilization I feel that the starships of the halo are the closest representation of the kind of ships we will use to traverse the universe.
Armor will be thicc and sturdy to make sure things like high speed debris and radiation can't penetrate the hull
FTL could only be achieved by using wormhole tech like slipspace, warp, and hyperspace.
Armaments have to be easy to resupply, either using very simple and easy to produce ballistic projectiles or energy weapons thar use rechargeable battery banks. And unless we meet aliens they will be perfectly suitable for blowing up dangerous asteroids and dealing with human piracy or rebel groups
Either Halo ships or ships from the expanse
The expanse would be more early spacefaring halo like designs would be closer to when we start regularly visiting other stars.
@@ZR-cj2fm (on the Bright side....
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@@AugmentedEdits666 Yes....
i'd love to see this channel continue to grow, it is truly one of the most fun ways to engage and digest Halo lore outside of reading through the books! Keep it up dude
Not gonna lie, love the design of unsc ships and ancient human ships.
Will definitely keep watching, a big refresh on halo since I’ve kind of fallen off the last couple years
I'm grateful someone does detailed and awesome videos of halo related stuff like this. Seen your tiktoks and now watching your RUclips videos. I appreciate your content keep it up!❤❤
I feel that crew size should have been added. Can’t forget the most important asset of any ship.
And how much ammunition. So we can have some idea what 190 missile pods actually means
@@cosmictreason2242there are about 25 missiles per pod at least of the ARCHER type
Well for perspective, the Infinity could hold around 10,000 crew, not including Spartan IVs and you can only go down from there. At best, something like a Paris-class could hold upwards of a thousand or more while something like the Orion-class would hold 3K to 4K.
@@MrJakerosI just read through the kil five books and I think it says the infinity can hold 17000 crew in the second book, I might be wrong.
@@insertsomethingfuni2617the reality is these ship let’s say if they were to exist in real life, they could hold up to let’s say 20 or 30 thousand people, for example the infinity, because a real life US navy carrier has up to 5k people and is the size of a halo frigate hell the halo frigate or 500 longer and wider next to a us navy carrier, soo crew size doesn’t make much sense in the games.
Spirit of fires 1st life as a ship was a colony ship. It was then taken by the unsc and refitted to become a support vessel. There isn't a specific naval term given to the ship but I think expeditionary assault carrier would fit. Carrys forward operating bases, short swords, vtol's, drop ships and various land vehicles
Your mispronunciation of Punic, Epoch, Charon, and Trafalgar irks me.
Ikr
Pain
Epoch I can forgive and Charon...ehhh maybe he's not a Greek mythology guy. But Punic and Trafalgar are well known histrionic events
W video, listening to this while playing games is a must. voice and volume is perfect to listen to in the background.
Did I just hear the Trafalgar pronounced as Trafff la garr
Good video regardless
That one and "poonic" instead of punic made me cringe a little bit when I heard them
Epoch also got mangled a bit
It wasn't just me lol! Still a great video
17:58 the Spirit of Fire was a Phoenix-class support vessel
Any chance can you do the covenant version of this?
It’s on the list, ❤️
Absolutely loved this video and can’t wait to see what else you will do.
A video idea I'd love to see are the people who played a role in making cheif who he is people like Halsey, Johnson, General crother(the odst commander in operation silent storm), the commander/traitor of the prowler task force you mentioned earlier, and Sam. Plus, a dive into some of the operations like silent storm would be awesome
A fantastic Idea, I will certainly add it to the list. Thank you
Very good video! Well structured and comprehensive.
Just a couple nitpicks:
1. Epoch is pronounced 'e-pock' not 'e-potch'
2. The UNSC Trafalgar is named after a real place and pronounced 'tra-fal-gr'
Tiny things though, excellent job overall 🩵
One minor nitpick, 1:25 you dont pronounce the "ch" in Epoch, you can just say it like "Epok". Also "Punic" is not pronounced "Poonik".
I love it when you say archor missle pods.
the Punic at epsilon eridani fleet was Trafalger
The Pillar of Autumn was able to fire 3 light splinter mac rounds (think of them as shredder rounds) on one charge where most ships used Heavy Rounds and can only fire one per charge. This was very affective for the Autumn for being able to take out shields with the first two rounds and simultaneously firing Archer missles with the third Mac round for maximum damage
The ship I will always have a soft spot for is the Spirit of Fire, love the design of the Phoenix-class and the story of the Spirit
Nice star citizen Gladius at 15:23. Otherwise nice video.
Dude, loving the lengthier videos❤❤
Thank you for covering over the UNSC Fleet I really love spaceships. Too bad we couldn't get to see more of the Halcyon class Heavy Cruiser that ship looks more like a Dreadnought then a Heavy Cruiser
The music at the introduction of each ship was a nice touch. Nicely done.
I won't confirm nor deny whether I shed a tear of nostalgia 6:24
I loved this video man because know i now more about the ships i already now and learnd things about ships that i didn't know
small nitpick: 2:10 to 2:23 the pictures shown are of the Thermopylae, not the Punic, just that.
and he says Epoch like E-potch, not E-pock.
I think its so funny that the infinity was frigate carrier when you think about it.
It makes sense. Infinity was not built for combat, but to run away and preserve humanity. It was stupid for them to start using it as a combat ship
Definitely going to build some of these in starfield (as accurate as possible)
01. GA Humanity's (on the non-'time of peace' section of theirs. the military part of their current era's from before) or (post-Human-forerunner war ancient Humankind era) UEG era Humankind's UNSC military.
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the last image in the Razor prowler section is a Gladius from star citizen
KAMMYSHEP is the BEST Halo lore and history guy of all time! 🎉🎉🎉
I really wish there was a Halo game like Dreadnought but for Halo ships.
Or a gamemode in a Halo main game where we fly Sabers, playable Elite players fly Seraphs. Would dog fight in space maps with UNSC, Covenant, Banish, or Sword of Sangilous ships. With the background being a fleet battle the map be a 1 on 1 ship battle like Star Wars Battlefront.
The Autumn Class ships don't SOUND that bad, but these things are a whole different level of problem compared to the Marathon and Halcyon ships. But it's worth mentioning that although it has just one MAC gun, it's one very similar to the Autumn's. It can fire more than once in a charge, which was one of the Autumn's upgrade packages. Except unlike the Autumn, it's using a heavy coil gun with this modification. So 3 rounds back to back to back into a single target. That will destroy a Cruiser and severely damage a Dreadnought. Otherwise they're quite well armed in the broad strokes. They are also equipped with cutting edge detection and targeting equipment designed from reverse engineered Covenant stuff. This is great for combat, but the actual reason is that the UNSC fully intends to refit them with more powerful and advanced weaponry in the near future. Plasma weapons and heavier electromagnetic weapons we're starting to see the UNSC use. It's also only the exterior of the Halcyons that were reused. This is because ALL of these ships have a honeycomb super structure like the Autumn's, which most Halcyons did not. Meaning they are durable enough that they can take shots into non-critical sections from anything as large as a Super Cruiser or even presumably a CAS Carrier. They have tons of armor, which is actually designed to melt off and prevent plasma rounds from melting through more than a small section at a time. In addition to sectional energy shielding, these ships can take an ungodly amount of punishment. They are also very fast given that they have much improved engines compared to what the Halcyons had. Given what we know about the Autumn's performance and the fact this is a considerably more powerful version of the Autumn's upgraded variant, it puts these ships at roughly 15 times (UNSC losses 3-1 ships, this ship appears to be capable of fighting outnumbered by 5-1) the combative effectiveness of an average UNSC capital ship from the middle of the war.
Halo also has a scaling issue in both ship sizes and crew as well as complement numbers.
yup
This isn’t true, if you are referring to the ridiculously low crew count. The reason why is basically on the account of the fact that the UNSC makes use of smart AIs. Also since UNSC ships are pretty much taken up by the engines and MAC, especially frigates were pretty much built around the MAC and engines
@John-11739 I am actually referring to the fact that the stated size of the ships is such that a longsword fighter wouldn't fit in the hanger bay of the Pillar of Autumn and the scaling from that point in official sources is off. Instillation 00 did a video on this issue. The use of AI doesn't excuse the scale of the ship being too small to be a functional warship. ruclips.net/video/CH1STi9thUc/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Yeah he calculated in the video linked above that the ships need to be increased in size by 2.65 times the original scale stated in the lore. In order for the ships to be functional. AI can do a lot but AI can't manually repair and rearm a ship in a hanger bay that the ship doesn't actually fit into because of the scaling of the ship. The Autumn for example is 1,170.63 meters long and the hanger bays are located on the sides . This needs to be scaled up to fit the craft it is supposed to carry. So if we do that then 1,170.63 meters times 2.65 equals 3,102.16 meters which gives the room to have the hangers be fully functional. Then we have the scale up all the other ships by the same in order to keep them consistent with each other. And yes this means the Covenant ships are like wise much larger when scaled properly.
Also neither the Covenant or UNSC's actual fleet numbers have ever been officially declared so both sides could have thousands or millions or even billions of ships in total. The UNSC being on the thousands to millions end of that equation. Given the colony numbers involved with the UNSC and use of AI in construction of ships and automated shipyards.
What kind of alloy did the humans use to make the Punic class 670 tons lol (love the content keep up the great work man!)
Small quibble: "Epoch" is pronounced like "EH-pok", not "ee-POTCH." Similarly, "Punic" is pronounced "PEW-nik", not "POO-nik." And lastly, "Charon" is pronounced "KEH-run", not "shair-AHN."
Add Trafalgar to the list of butchered words in this video
@@anotherdrummer2 Nice catch, I missed that last time.
Nah
See I prefer the SH sound in Charon and EE-pok instead of the other 2. (Pew-nik is right on point though)
Great vid bro
Great video but there are a number of minor verbal errors that while they do not detract from the video in anyway I do think are important to point out.
1. Epoch is not pronounced "E-Posh" but is rather pronounced "E-Pock".
2. Punic is not pronounced "Poo-Nic" but it rather pronounced "Pyu-Nic"
3. The name of the named Punic you brought up, the UNSC Trafalgar, is not pronounced "Taf-La-Gar" but "Truh-Fahl-Gar".
4. When listing the Punic Class's weight you forgot to add the word "Million". It's weight is 670 Million tons, what was said was that it weighed 670 tons.
Okay that's enough of me being the grammar police for the day XD
who doesnt know the famous see battle of Traflagar where Admiral Noelson broke the Frunch Fleet....
15:27 is just a gladius from Star Citizen painted black
I would love to know how many ships the UNSC had before the Covenant an afterwards. Plus how many worlds the UNSC had left under their control
We do not know exact numers of UNSC ships or even the Covenant before the war. However, seeing how Reach was defended by about ~150 capital ships (the max), and we see that the Fifth Fleet was like ~70 ships.. times that by at least 17.. add in the CMHA Navy (might have misspelled that) and they probably had several thousand vessels. Before the war ends, Lord Hood, the commander of the UNSC, makes it perfectly clear that the UNSC Navies strongest remaining forces, being the fleets at Earth, were nearly incapable of combat. He could only committ 7 Charon Light Frigates and a couple dozen LongSwords to attack Truths ship. Humanity's Navy was after the war gutted and was a shadow of itself.
My conclusion:
Pre war: several thousand capital ships, many more built during the war albeit mounting losse.
Post War: Maybe a hundred at most, if we are being generous. Dozens at minimum, mostly scattered across the remaining Inner Colonies.
Does any one know where all these cut scenes and clips of the infinity are from. I always see them but I don't know where they are from.
Most of them come from Halo 4, and it's post game mode Spartan Ops
Somehow the Spirit of Fire has returned
the punic class is the predecessor of the infinity class supercarrier as i recall
Oni: how many missiles do we need?
UNSC Point blank: YES
15:25 is an Aegis Gladius from Star Citizen? Great video though, best in depth look at the UNSC fleet I’ve found!
0:10 the expanse mentioned fucking right automatic subscribe
2:33 Really like this Picture. Was there an Enterprise in Halo canon?
Awesome video looking forward to more of them. What's your favorite ship class mine is the Phoenix class.
Mine too
If i rememebr the strident class did see combat in human cov war but only few times one was a rare unsc navy victory
15:56 - Is this from Space Engineers?
Edit: This and the next image
I would love to see you build a battle group.
Loved this video
I like this style of video. One tip though. Put the numbers on the screen for us to see as you read them off. Just a tip for the future. KInda hope you can re-do this video with that information on screen at some point as well. :)
@15:27 you used a Gladius from Star Citizen as a picture
You know something is nearly indestructible when it says "unnecessarily strong" lmao
Me have books, me no need video! 💀
Godspeed the UNSC Savannah
I kind of dislike the change in later Ships starting to deploy Lasers. Like I get the technology is progressing, but would much rather still see MAC's being the principle, just suped up with the tech, as this distinction was what separated the Humans. Now they are just becoming clones of the Covies or Forerunners.
Trah-fal-ger (hard G)
It hurts my soul to hear one of the greatest naval battles of history's name butchered so badly
The autumn-class has energy shields
I always thought that the marathon and helsyon were the same lmao
came from tiktok hoping for more in depth content here. cheers.
09:26 beautiful ship 😮
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Can you make a video talking of the unsc vehicles
is that the scaled actual size lore accurate sizes in the game? these things are huge. the biggest on is 60 football fields in length. that would be about 290 empire state buildings in length
I just wish we got a good halo show. It's crazy I come to all these halo channels for my halo fix. And a multimillion dollar project can't even get people that like halo to write or produce for them.
love the video and has master chief fought any other spartans
Seriously, Spartan Locke. Not seriously, he spared with the other Spartans regularly.
Love this stuff.
Great video
Great video! I really enjoyed it!
Loved the attention to detail but just for a future tip, it may be a good idea to be able to properly be able to pronounce the class names of some of these ships in order to better represent the content especially for those who have an intimate knowledge of halo lore. Example is the Charon class isn't pronounced like chair-on its more like care-on and Epoch is pronounced like E-pok.
Can anyone here tell me the fighter complement of these ships? And maybe which ones had shields??
only the ships made after the human covenant war had shields, so mainly the infinity, strident and from what i read on the wiki the post war autumn class heavy cruisers
If human ships had only had shields, they would have held out so much better than they did.
This has very little to do with the video but one of the things I like about the game space engineers is the fact that I could build all of these ships in almost perfect scale size and see what they would look like in real life almost lol 😂
Take a shot every time Bungie or 343 studios invents a new Frigate class because they can't be bothered to have a consistent design across the games.
Question can a winter class prowler fit into any frigate
The orion class assault carriers look like assault rifles. Ive always though they look like a gun since combat evolved then it turns out they even have a big cannon in the front. I mean what's the deal with that? Was that on purpose?
I spoke too soon a lot of them look like some type of gun.
Could have given us a fighter complement for the carriers, I mean that’s why their called carriers😂
Spirit of fire aint here
(Phoenix-class support vessel, modified in halo wars 1-2)
Epoch is not pronounced Ep-otch, it's pronounced Ep-ukh
He messed up punic and trafalgar too. Gets distracting
Pick your variety of Space brick
Good video overall, chief, but most of what is said is speadrunning through the wiki. I think it wouldve gone better if you looked at each ship in depth and went more over each ships tactics and role in the UNSC, and less saying numbers without context
*2:45* One of these things is _not_ like the others. One of these things just _doesn't_ belong...
Like I said awesome content bro! Will we see an in depth video of ONI? How it was formed and the darks things they’ve done
Missin the timestamp for the Epoch
2:10 damn thats not much of a supercarrier at 670 tons
can you make a video of the entire covenant fleet