I really was suprised by that movie, I wanted to see it when it was announced in theaters with my mother but I never did, Three years later I saw it on Netflix and it blew my mind, Let's face it, the ending is bad, but everything else is just amazing.
I think Guillermo del Toro would be an excellent director for a Bioshock movie. Hell, just look at some of the set designs and his aesthetics from previous movies like Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth, and more recently The Shape of Water (which is set around Bioshock 1's time). He's also really good with horror and suspense, and having practical makeup effects on splicers and little sisters would be incredibly cool to look at.
NewtNoot I agree fully what you said I think that Del Toro would have the kind of weirdness that we all expect from his movies like Hellboy I think that he would bring some really interesting ideas to it that would make it very watchable and very fascinating.
Honestly, a series would be the only way it could work - it would have to start with Ryan's escape from the USSR, his growing hatred of US regulation and his plans with Sullivan to get resources and start building under the sea - his desperation to unload all of his assets without drawing attention to himself, and the eventual outcome being cashed up and ready to go to ground. The story could easily follow and bolster the novel. You could also start the downfall, the civil war and unrest, the events of the Multiplayer would be a good introduction into the atrocities both sides commit throughout - then maybe, just maybe, play out the first game story, less the choices and more into Jacks plans. Granted, the series could run for a few seasons tops, but at least you'd have something lore friendly and if the budget holds, well done.
I love this idea. They could literally make about 8 seasons of it. They could do like four seasons in Rapture and four in Columbia. Explaining how it happens and how it ends. It’d be soooo cool
The reason video game movies never work is because games have much better and more complex stories than most movies do. 2 hours just isnt enough time. A tv show would be a great idea for many different games including bioshock
First off, I loved bioshock, I loved the movie and I loved the video. That said, I think the themes of control and free will in bioshock are best suited for an interactive medium. A movie adaptation would lose a lot of the impact the game had.
Nomad6763 I don't think the movie should surround around free will. Bioshock games touch many other interesting themes like objectivism, political fanatism, altruism, drug addiction, morality... I loved the first Bioshock because its twist was very meta and about how story driven games trick us to believe that we have a say in the story. Maybe a Bioshock movie could have a philosophical twist regarding movies, something like that.
Nomad6763 You sir are 100% correct. The reason the twist in the game is so powerful is because you playing the game realize that every choice you made, every path and mission, you were a slave. It’s an AMAZING twist because you go “well there’s no way they could “hypnotize” Jack, he would know better!” Suddenly you realize that you YOURSELF have been controlled. It’s such a powerful dichotomy of the relationship of Player Character that you could never achieve in any other medium. Not even a novel would make this so powerful. They took the concept of a video game and turned the “FPS” portion of the game into not only your way of interacting with the world, but literally starring as the Character yourself! YOU are the Character, and the game has been playing YOU. 😦😧😮🤯
Why do you assume that the movie should focus on existing plot points? Why not a spin-off film set in Rapture or Columbia? Hell, why not even base the movie on the book?
Harry Lawson Are you talking about the novel by John Shirley? To answer your question, let’s examine literally ANY movie that was supposedly made from a video game that decided to cherry pick elements to create its own “unique” story, in which I dare you to give one intelligent example of one that has EVER been even somewhat watchable. How about we remember The Super Mario Brothers movie, Doom, Mortal Combat, Alien Vs Predator, even more recently Assasins Creed who had fucking Michael Fassbender who is an otherwise great actor. Warcraft, Street Fighter, Tomb Raider, Hitman, Max Payne, Prince Of Persia... still not convinced it’s a terrible idea? Literally EVERY FUCKING RESIDENT EVIL MOVIE EVER MADE. If a movie franchise like Star Wars can make a spin-off movie like Rogue One that many people who love the movies HATE that chapter, surely a movie “simply based” off a game (even a great one) wouldn’t be a good Bioshock movie just because it’s labeled “Bioshock”. Stop and think for two seconds and really think about what you’re saying. Take out everything from the first game except the city and plasmids and honestly tell me that it would have been such an amazing and thought provoking spectacle without the puppet master routine that literally every single player partakes in, whether they even know it or not. You can’t just take a handful of ideas, slap the same title on a movie and expect it to be great. Hollywood doesn’t care if they gut an entire franchise except for the name and ruin everything that makes the series great. They care about one thing: MONEY. I for one am glad they didn’t make this movie because I love the game so much and taking anything away from what makes the Bioshock experience so powerful would be a disgrace and travesty to the genius of Ken Levine and Irrational/2K. If people can’t even agree on whether Infinite should even be considered a Bioshock game, you can bet that a Hollywood team of unintelligent directors who have never played the games should be trusted to take what they think is “important” or “cool” from he game. I just hope to god no one from the film industry reads your comment and decides to go full-on Resident Evil Movie bad, in which case, we all know who to blame when that happens... haha
Connor Walters Again, you assume the movie would be bad. It might not be. I should hope it wouldn’t be. You also refuse to accept the idea that an amazing story could be created using the setting of the bioshock games. Why are you so nihilistic?
I'm thankful of Levine standing up for his IP, I think we've all seen enough "average video game adaptations". The policy should be to broaden the lore, not to polish it. It's a gritty franchise and always should be and a PG13 horror movie would do nothing but scoff at long time fans. I'll grant a minor exemption for infinity which had grit but on very different terms, it was however still a good game with exceptional dlc. Even if the story felt a bit sub-par the typical expectation.
If you make one it should be a fucking slasher horror like Scream ... that is for sure ... make it a fucking horror flick ! Because that is what it is ... if you make it like that ... god damn it would easily fit into nowadays spectrum of films ! If you are even better you manage to make it a real masterpiece ... could easily be a kickstarter for young regisseur.
Sooo weird to see an older format Filmento video. You've gotten so much more confident/charismatic/peppy and good at editing! Not that the editing was bad before...! But you've definitely tailored it to a larger audience! Love your work Filmento, I hope you never stop!!!
I want a Bioshock movie too, damn it! But when I found out that Sony is the one holding the license, I gagged. I imagined Rapture with old-timey Coca-Cola ads with ragtime music playing in the bathyspheres, a Googie style Dunkin' Donuts shop sitting at the corner of Fort Frolic, and Jack gaining insights on Andrew Ryan from Sony M-Type tape recorders. Ugh, just kill me now!
I'm late to the party here, but I watched Cure in 2018 and felt the same way. I really felt like it had some very BioShock-y elements to it. Your video here, the writing, the structure, captured perfectly. Couldn't have said it any better myself. Great work, dude.
Bioshock needs a movie, but Cure For Wellness was just that: A Cure For Wellness. I recieved no Bioshock vibes from that movie in any general way. Honestly, while the impact that Bioshock had on gamers, which was brought home by the twist where it turned out you had no free will, will never be as crazy as it was in the game, but a movie would be a dream come true, as well as one of the first full fledged horror game movies. Not to mention, it is a remarkable chance to get the video game cinema genre off its feet (even though I, personally, loved Warcraft), granted it's done right. It just wasn't THIS movie, which was a treasure unto itself.
I kept thinking about Bioshock throughout the movie. The setting and story are different, but the colors, parts of the design, the green filters, etc. - I think it's obvious Gore Verbinski understood he's never going to make Bioshock so he used this opportunity to incorporate some of the Bioshock style and design into this film.
Coming back here in 2022 where they just announced the Bioshock movie being made by Netflix What really matters is who they’re gonna hire to direct this. Because you can't just take any random person and say "make this" and expect it to be good. I would suggest hiring Mike Flanagan or James Gunn or James Wan or Gore Verbinski(the original director for this project before it was cut.) or maybe even Jeff Fowler to make this. You'll also want to get the people who helped bring the game to life in on this project too in order to get some of the finer details just right which is why I suggested Jeff Fowler, he managed to do the impossible and made a video game movie adaptation that was actually good. So instantly he's a good choice for director and maybe we can have James Wan or James Gunn or Mike Flanagan or Gore Verbinski in on the project as well, because of they're pretty good winning streak when it comes to sitting in the director’s chair (along with some extra flare provided by the talented Guillermo Del Torro and possibly some writing done by Zach Snyder.) and it depend on who you hire to play each character. Right off the bat….Johnny Depp as Andrew Ryan, Mark Strong as Fontaine, Emily Blunt or Scarlet Johansson as Brigid Tenenbaum, Hayley Atwell as Julia Langford, Reese Witherspoon as Diane McClintock, Margot Robbie as Jasmine Jolene, BD Wong as Dr.Suchong, Cillian Murphy or John Waters as Sander Cohen, David Dastmalchian as Dr.Steinman, Jessica Lange or Tilda Swinton as Sofia Lamb, Angela Bassett or Octavia Spencer as Grace Holloway, Charlie day as Stanley Poole, Jeremy Renner as Gilbert Alexander, Bob Odenkirk as Augustus Sinclair. For Jack I think a number of actors could play him considering he has no speaking role(except for the beginning of the game and the occasional noises he makes during the game.) the top 3 choices for me at least are Logan Lerman, Devon Sawa, or Steve Howey. The reason why I’m putting the cast of each character from BioShock 1 and 2 here is in case they take the movie one of two ways. One way they’ll explain the origin of rapture and the eventual fall of the city or start off where Jack travels through the city in which we would only need the characters from the 1st game.
If the way to the Wellness Centre community was somehow a lighthouse it would be a valid Bioshock movie. Genetic experimentation and body horror via slugs. A secluded community of people. The misguided ideology and beliefs of one person being the rise and downfall of that community. Strange Father/Daughter dynamics. A protagonist that enters the community, learns about it, saves the daughter/daughters. They could make Infinite (Pun intended) Bioshock movies as long as it follows the formula above. Infinite lighthouses.
A cure for wellness is a great movie, albeit very, very disturbing. I loved it, but I could see why people didn't like it very much. It's definately not for everyone
Interesting observations, but I have a hard time saying I agree. Some similar ideas here, but everything has been done before, right? I mean, I guess I can see SOME similarities, but calling it “the Bioshock film we never got” is a little overstating this one, I think.
Bioshock is my favorite game of all time! I just saw A Cure For Wellness recently and I knew there must have been a good reason that I enjoyed that movie. Thanks!
I think if I did a bioshock movie, I'd do it from Andrew Ryan's perspective as he watches his creation crumble around him. Maybe at the end Jack could show up in the pod, he steps out...then cut to credits
This movie was so underrated. Yeah, it’s a bit too long and full of plot holes, but the set design and cinematography is amazing, and yet it feels like an R-rated throwback to classic Universal horror movies.
Excuse me! I think "A Cure for Wellness" (2016) has nothing to do with "Bioshock". Both works have totally different approaches. I find greater inspiring similarities into the creative vision of Ken Levine which were taken from the film "Dark City" (1998); born from the visionary director Alex Proyas, than the so called "La Cité des Enfants Perdus" (1995) by Marc Caro & Jean-Pierre Jeunet.
It would also be really interesting to make a movie out of the bioshock radio play! It tells almost the entire lore of rapture so you don't have to do stupid things like dumb down the narrative to those not in the know, while also giving hardcore fans an interesting view on the rise and fall of the fair city. You don't really have to have jack in it other than maybe the puppy scene with dr. Suchong. It wouldn't make the players mad by giving an outside view of jack, a character that doesn't need more story because the players made their own. It would give them a different main character in the main worker and switch perspectives when switching recorders. I don't know if Sony would be able to grab the script from the guys who made the radio play but I still think it would be amazing.
I mean, A Cure For Wellness is definitely not a Bioshock adaptation. But I can definitely see it as the answer to the fact that the Bioshock film never happened. ACFW is legitimately one of my favorite thriller films, and I would kill for a Bioshock film in the same vein
I actually prefer bioshock to stay as only videogames. The story aint that complicated to follow in game and unless its going "hardcore henry" style (fpv) it would mean we would see jack...and jack is not as much a character as he is the player themselves. I think seeing jack would ruin it as it would mean he would have to talk and show off more exprections. Another reason is that jack doesnt talk because the player can fill that gap with their own ideas of how he would talk and intern let the player get into jacks shoes . Besides videogame movies suck anyway because the viewer cant interact with them, the viewer cant decide to do this or to do that, etc.
With FPV you also run the risk of such a potential movie becoming Doom? The problem with FPV is you see how other people interact with you as the viewer/main character, but never what or how your character looks to the other characters - in a sense, you feel as something of an Invisible Man. :)
I'm so glad that you made this video, I was wondering if anyone else had thought this about the movie when I first saw it, And I think it was more than a coincidence that Verbinski was set to make the BioShock movie, and made this one later on when he couldn't, And while watching it, (Cure) and having no idea what to expect, I couldn't help but feel like it seemed like a Proof of Concept if you will, of what a BioShock movie would have been like, in terms of Set-up, Feel, and Style. Loved the movie, loved BioShock, and really loved that you caught the same vibe I did, Keep up the good videos, man, (Sorry I watched them in reverse order. ;') )
This is interesting to watch now that a Bioshock adaptation was announced. I loved A Cure for Wellness ever since, and seeing that Verbinski was obviously inspired by Bioshock makes me curious
@@oopartsw911 sorry buddy I really wanted to like this movie and I shouldn't hate on it knowing you like it I wouldn't want someone doing that to me I just didn't enjoy it as much as I hoped my girlfriend didn't like it either and I loaned it to another couple to watch and get their opinions and they both disliked it too I was like "damn"😔
Dude it's horrible the only 4 people I know who watched this movie including myself thought it was really bad not scary at all and I really wanted to like it I mean I bought it without having seen it I was so sure it'd be good but nope
I like movies like this. They are heavily inspired by a big ip but create their own story and lore, arguably better for this medium too. Smaller studios should do more like this especially for A24.
I have to admit I would rather have no Bioshock movie than a bad one. Even tho I'm one of those hardcore fans who love this franchise go death. It would just annoy the heck out of me if they screw it over..
What you suggested for a movie is basically the story of the bioshock infinite DLC Burial at Sea (part 1). A white haired Booker is in rapture and Elizabeth finds him to find a girl who has become a little sister.
The problem with adapting Bioshock is in the very nature of it's message. Bioshock is about video games, and the blind obedience and illusion of choice they impose on the player. A true Bioshock movie would ignore Rapture and the theme of choice and instead focus on the nature and illusions of cinema.
Interesting but if a live action version of BioShock was ever to be it needs to be a tv series set before the events of BioShock, hypothetically called "Welcome to Raputure" centering around a detective, investigating crimes taking place within the city of Rapture this way you can lead the story to the events that take place in BioShock and it gives you more room to work with side storys and give people more insight into characters before there demise in BioShock!!
Honestly, I think Ken Levine made the right call. While I agree there are similarities here, I just don't see how even an R-rated *Bioshock* adaptation with the best budget can fully recapture the original's magic. I say this out of logic, not bias. Even a 3 hr length + Filmento's proposed rewrite wouldn't be enough imo to replicate the lore building, characters, plot, and overall experience that made *Bioshock* what it is. Whatever the approach, it'd most likely at best be a limited imitation. Some stories are just better off left as is in their own medium, and there's NOTHING at all wrong with that. Sometimes, the best way to demonstrate appreciation or respect for a quality product or art is knowing when to leave good things ALONE.
You can actually read and download John Logan's Bioshock script, so you or someone else can do a comparison between A Cure for Wellness and the unproduced script (since it might contain differences from the game)
I definitely I want to see a Bioshock movie and have Guillermo Del Toro involved with the project and either make it Live action or 2D Animated, but we already know that it should definitely be Rated R and they should do it right
I did feel a bio shock watching this movie. They could sorta take a similar approach for a true bioshock. Doesnt need to follow jack but if it does i would prefer he had personality. Likeable or otherwise.
Never heard of that movie, but I will look into it now. And I could have sworn I heard Guillermo Del Toro's name being thrown around for a Bioshock movie, but I could be wrong. That being said I got a lot of Bioshock vibes from atmosphere of the Shape of Water so who knows.
The best approach by far would be to film the story of Rapture.. instead of a play by play of the game. There are plenty of fully fleshed out characters and enough story for several movies if done right. I'm glad they pulled the plug though.. do it right or not at all. There is absolutely no way to do the story justice with less than an R rating. We are talking about some really dark content and extreme violence, much of it involving children.
Bioshock movie should focus on the story of Mark Meltzer from Bioshock 2. A man looking for his daughter discovers rapture and has to find is way through a crumbling city. You can give him a counterpart to go through the story with so it's not as empty as the game, maybe Atlas could be with him the whole time instead of on a walkie talkie, maybe he has a very cowardly C3PO personality and then big reveal he's Frank Fontaine.
Joshua Barkdull But we already got his story. There's Something In The Sea introduced it and BioShock 2 concluded it. Everything that's to tell about Mark Meltzer has already been told.
I appreciate your thoughts, and yet don’t care to make the comparison. I love Bioshock. This movie could fill some compelling previews, but was a jaggedly stitched together mess of unfulfilling twists and unconvincing moments. The movie wasn’t worth watching, despite bits of stylish flair, but those games had impact. Glad they didn’t make a weak adaptation. A solid R rated movie might be a Watchmen-level artistic success, but I can see why it was risky.
Hate to tell you 'Bioshock' and "A Cure for Wellness" simply used common story elements common in stories with same tone/themes. So are you saying 'Neo-Genesis Evangeline' and 'Fooly Cooly' are the same? By your logic they must be
I think a bioshock movie has as much potential as the video game just because the video game has such an interesting story and universe, it just needs to be advised by the original writers in order for a faithful adaptation to be made.
Man, you're awesome, but you should really, REALLY try to get better at the audio! This is a trip video. Subscribesd, liked and I would love to see some improvements on the narrative! Awesome channel and ideas!
How difficult can it be to make a bioshock movie. It doesn't need to be GORE. Just make a psychological horror. There are so many examples in cinema history. I would end the movie, with Jack's plane crashing (or something like that in the background) and the film's main climax - new year's eve (with reference to Subject Delta also somewhere in the background).
The main setting of bioshock is rand objectivism there is actually a two part atlas shrugged movie series that's horrible but has a real bioshock theme just ironically told from the perspective of Andrew Ryan as the good guy
So although I understand your overall point, "A Cure For Wellness" wasn't really Bioshock at all. The steampunk and mysterious feel is there but its also there in "The Shape of Water". My end point is that just because there is water involved, that doesn't mean that its based on Bioshock.
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"A Cure for Wellness" is one of the most beautifully shot movies out there.
I really was suprised by that movie, I wanted to see it when it was announced in theaters with my mother but I never did, Three years later I saw it on Netflix and it blew my mind, Let's face it, the ending is bad, but everything else is just amazing.
I think Guillermo del Toro would be an excellent director for a Bioshock movie. Hell, just look at some of the set designs and his aesthetics from previous movies like Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth, and more recently The Shape of Water (which is set around Bioshock 1's time). He's also really good with horror and suspense, and having practical makeup effects on splicers and little sisters would be incredibly cool to look at.
NewtNoot him and Ken Levine on the script would be otherworldly
NewtNoot I agree fully what you said I think that Del Toro would have the kind of weirdness that we all expect from his movies like Hellboy I think that he would bring some really interesting ideas to it that would make it very watchable and very fascinating.
Okay but he better keep his fish people out of it or I'm gonna be super mad
@@TxxT33 Most of the films he's made don't feature a fish person... What are you suggesting?
"Shutter Island" has the Bioshock ending you were looking for .
Agree. A fantastic twist to both mediums
Honestly, a series would be the only way it could work - it would have to start with Ryan's escape from the USSR, his growing hatred of US regulation and his plans with Sullivan to get resources and start building under the sea - his desperation to unload all of his assets without drawing attention to himself, and the eventual outcome being cashed up and ready to go to ground. The story could easily follow and bolster the novel. You could also start the downfall, the civil war and unrest, the events of the Multiplayer would be a good introduction into the atrocities both sides commit throughout - then maybe, just maybe, play out the first game story, less the choices and more into Jacks plans. Granted, the series could run for a few seasons tops, but at least you'd have something lore friendly and if the budget holds, well done.
All that was explained in the novel Rapture.
Silica Beastmaster - Yeah I literally said you could 'easily follow and bolster the novel'.
I love this idea. They could literally make about 8 seasons of it. They could do like four seasons in Rapture and four in Columbia. Explaining how it happens and how it ends. It’d be soooo cool
The reason video game movies never work is because games have much better and more complex stories than most movies do. 2 hours just isnt enough time. A tv show would be a great idea for many different games including bioshock
@@tedjonston777 why don't they just make it more hours?
First off, I loved bioshock, I loved the movie and I loved the video. That said, I think the themes of control and free will in bioshock are best suited for an interactive medium. A movie adaptation would lose a lot of the impact the game had.
Nomad6763 I don't think the movie should surround around free will. Bioshock games touch many other interesting themes like objectivism, political fanatism, altruism, drug addiction, morality... I loved the first Bioshock because its twist was very meta and about how story driven games trick us to believe that we have a say in the story. Maybe a Bioshock movie could have a philosophical twist regarding movies, something like that.
Nomad6763 You sir are 100% correct. The reason the twist in the game is so powerful is because you playing the game realize that every choice you made, every path and mission, you were a slave. It’s an AMAZING twist because you go “well there’s no way they could “hypnotize” Jack, he would know better!”
Suddenly you realize that you YOURSELF have been controlled. It’s such a powerful dichotomy of the relationship of Player Character that you could never achieve in any other medium. Not even a novel would make this so powerful. They took the concept of a video game and turned the “FPS” portion of the game into not only your way of interacting with the world, but literally starring as the Character yourself!
YOU are the Character, and the game has been playing YOU. 😦😧😮🤯
Why do you assume that the movie should focus on existing plot points? Why not a spin-off film set in Rapture or Columbia? Hell, why not even base the movie on the book?
Harry Lawson Are you talking about the novel by John Shirley? To answer your question, let’s examine literally ANY movie that was supposedly made from a video game that decided to cherry pick elements to create its own “unique” story, in which I dare you to give one intelligent example of one that has EVER been even somewhat watchable. How about we remember The Super Mario Brothers movie, Doom, Mortal Combat, Alien Vs Predator, even more recently Assasins Creed who had fucking Michael Fassbender who is an otherwise great actor. Warcraft, Street Fighter, Tomb Raider, Hitman, Max Payne, Prince Of Persia... still not convinced it’s a terrible idea?
Literally EVERY FUCKING RESIDENT EVIL MOVIE EVER MADE. If a movie franchise like Star Wars can make a spin-off movie like Rogue One that many people who love the movies HATE that chapter, surely a movie “simply based” off a game (even a great one) wouldn’t be a good Bioshock movie just because it’s labeled “Bioshock”.
Stop and think for two seconds and really think about what you’re saying. Take out everything from the first game except the city and plasmids and honestly tell me that it would have been such an amazing and thought provoking spectacle without the puppet master routine that literally every single player partakes in, whether they even know it or not. You can’t just take a handful of ideas, slap the same title on a movie and expect it to be great. Hollywood doesn’t care if they gut an entire franchise except for the name and ruin everything that makes the series great. They care about one thing: MONEY. I for one am glad they didn’t make this movie because I love the game so much and taking anything away from what makes the Bioshock experience so powerful would be a disgrace and travesty to the genius of Ken Levine and Irrational/2K.
If people can’t even agree on whether Infinite should even be considered a Bioshock game, you can bet that a Hollywood team of unintelligent directors who have never played the games should be trusted to take what they think is “important” or “cool” from he game.
I just hope to god no one from the film industry reads your comment and decides to go full-on Resident Evil Movie bad, in which case, we all know who to blame when that happens... haha
Connor Walters Again, you assume the movie would be bad. It might not be. I should hope it wouldn’t be. You also refuse to accept the idea that an amazing story could be created using the setting of the bioshock games. Why are you so nihilistic?
I'm thankful of Levine standing up for his IP, I think we've all seen enough "average video game adaptations". The policy should be to broaden the lore, not to polish it. It's a gritty franchise and always should be and a PG13 horror movie would do nothing but scoff at long time fans. I'll grant a minor exemption for infinity which had grit but on very different terms, it was however still a good game with exceptional dlc. Even if the story felt a bit sub-par the typical expectation.
I have massiv respect for this descision
Thanks very much for watching, friends. Really means a lot to me.
And what do you think? Did the filmmakers have Bioshock in mind here or no?
I think there are a lot of similarities, I think it's cool to draw this parallel
thanks for making the video
If you make one it should be a fucking slasher horror like Scream ... that is for sure ... make it a fucking horror flick !
Because that is what it is ... if you make it like that ... god damn it would easily fit into nowadays spectrum of films !
If you are even better you manage to make it a real masterpiece ... could easily be a kickstarter for young regisseur.
Sooo weird to see an older format Filmento video. You've gotten so much more confident/charismatic/peppy and good at editing! Not that the editing was bad before...! But you've definitely tailored it to a larger audience! Love your work Filmento, I hope you never stop!!!
I want a Bioshock movie too, damn it! But when I found out that Sony is the one holding the license, I gagged. I imagined Rapture with old-timey Coca-Cola ads with ragtime music playing in the bathyspheres, a Googie style Dunkin' Donuts shop sitting at the corner of Fort Frolic, and Jack gaining insights on Andrew Ryan from Sony M-Type tape recorders. Ugh, just kill me now!
Majyxs Not only that but Sony would've butchered it.
@@opticalraven1935 agree. I would be ashamed to see it
The girl Hannah in Cure for wellness also struck a lot of the same chords as the little sisters in Bioshock.
I think the movie metropolis 1927 is more similar to Bioshock
Angela Gonzalez interesting perspective.
Angela Gonzalez Too bad a large portion of that movie is gone.
the 2010 version had more scenes
I WANT A BIOSHOCK MOVIE SOOO MICH
Ask yourself this why
I'm late to the party here, but I watched Cure in 2018 and felt the same way. I really felt like it had some very BioShock-y elements to it. Your video here, the writing, the structure, captured perfectly. Couldn't have said it any better myself. Great work, dude.
Bioshock needs a movie, but Cure For Wellness was just that: A Cure For Wellness. I recieved no Bioshock vibes from that movie in any general way. Honestly, while the impact that Bioshock had on gamers, which was brought home by the twist where it turned out you had no free will, will never be as crazy as it was in the game, but a movie would be a dream come true, as well as one of the first full fledged horror game movies. Not to mention, it is a remarkable chance to get the video game cinema genre off its feet (even though I, personally, loved Warcraft), granted it's done right. It just wasn't THIS movie, which was a treasure unto itself.
I kept thinking about Bioshock throughout the movie. The setting and story are different, but the colors, parts of the design, the green filters, etc. - I think it's obvious Gore Verbinski understood he's never going to make Bioshock so he used this opportunity to incorporate some of the Bioshock style and design into this film.
shutter island gave me a bioshock feel, lmao those last words thou "I WANT BIOSHOCK DAMNIT"!
Shutter Island was awesome
Coming back here in 2022 where they just announced the Bioshock movie being made by Netflix
What really matters is who they’re gonna hire to direct this. Because you can't just take any random person and say "make this" and expect it to be good. I would suggest hiring Mike Flanagan or James Gunn or James Wan or Gore Verbinski(the original director for this project before it was cut.) or maybe even Jeff Fowler to make this.
You'll also want to get the people who
helped bring the game to life in on this
project too in order to get some of the finer
details just right which is why I suggested
Jeff Fowler, he managed to do the
impossible and made a video game movie
adaptation that was actually good.
So instantly he's a good choice for director
and maybe we can have James Wan or
James Gunn or Mike Flanagan or Gore Verbinski in on the project as well,
because of they're pretty good winning
streak when it comes to sitting in the director’s chair (along with some extra flare provided by the talented Guillermo Del Torro and possibly some writing done by Zach Snyder.) and it
depend on who you hire to play each
character.
Right off the bat….Johnny Depp as Andrew
Ryan, Mark Strong as Fontaine, Emily Blunt
or Scarlet Johansson as Brigid Tenenbaum,
Hayley Atwell as Julia Langford, Reese
Witherspoon as Diane McClintock, Margot
Robbie as Jasmine Jolene, BD Wong as
Dr.Suchong, Cillian Murphy or John Waters as Sander Cohen, David Dastmalchian as
Dr.Steinman, Jessica Lange or Tilda
Swinton as Sofia Lamb, Angela Bassett or
Octavia Spencer as Grace Holloway,
Charlie day as Stanley Poole, Jeremy
Renner as Gilbert Alexander, Bob Odenkirk
as Augustus Sinclair.
For Jack I think a number of actors could play him considering he has no speaking role(except for the beginning of the game and the occasional noises he makes during the game.) the top 3 choices for me at least are Logan Lerman, Devon Sawa, or Steve Howey.
The reason why I’m putting the cast of each character from BioShock 1 and 2 here is in case they take the movie one of two ways. One way they’ll explain the origin of rapture and the eventual fall of the city or start off where Jack travels through the city in which we would only need the characters from the 1st game.
If the way to the Wellness Centre community was somehow a lighthouse it would be a valid Bioshock movie.
Genetic experimentation and body horror via slugs. A secluded community of people. The misguided ideology and beliefs of one person being the rise and downfall of that community. Strange Father/Daughter dynamics. A protagonist that enters the community, learns about it, saves the daughter/daughters.
They could make Infinite (Pun intended) Bioshock movies as long as it follows the formula above. Infinite lighthouses.
A TV show would be amazing - but only if it was set when Rapture was being built/before the civil war.
I would be sceptical if ever a Bioshock movie/series would release, but with this premise in mind I could even work I think
Have I said that you´re underrated? Because you´re damn underrated. You´re absolutely awesome.
he really is, i agree :)
A cure for wellness is a great movie, albeit very, very disturbing. I loved it, but I could see why people didn't like it very much. It's definately not for everyone
My wife was working in Grand Rapids and I went up to be with her . We saw the movie there . I loved it , it’s BEAUTIFUL and has an amazing feel
Interesting observations, but I have a hard time saying I agree. Some similar ideas here, but everything has been done before, right? I mean, I guess I can see SOME similarities, but calling it “the Bioshock film we never got” is a little overstating this one, I think.
Who else saw the shape of water trailer and got majorly disappointed it wasn't Bioshock?
Bioshock is my favorite game of all time! I just saw A Cure For Wellness recently and I knew there must have been a good reason that I enjoyed that movie. Thanks!
You liked this mess of a movie?😒
I think if I did a bioshock movie, I'd do it from Andrew Ryan's perspective as he watches his creation crumble around him. Maybe at the end Jack could show up in the pod, he steps out...then cut to credits
This movie was so underrated. Yeah, it’s a bit too long and full of plot holes, but the set design and cinematography is amazing, and yet it feels like an R-rated throwback to classic Universal horror movies.
Great essay, man. And I totally agree.
Especially 10:21
Excuse me! I think "A Cure for Wellness" (2016) has nothing to do with "Bioshock". Both works have totally different approaches. I find greater inspiring similarities into the creative vision of Ken Levine which were taken from the film "Dark City" (1998); born from the visionary director Alex Proyas, than the so called "La Cité des Enfants Perdus" (1995) by Marc Caro & Jean-Pierre Jeunet.
City of Lost Children, you mean? ;) What that movie - was really out there, especially with the villian unable to dream?
almost a decade latter and people are still talking about my favorite childhood game.
Bless them
I want to play Bioshock
I watched cure for wellness just cos of this video. I liked the movie... But it ain't BioShock.
It would also be really interesting to make a movie out of the bioshock radio play! It tells almost the entire lore of rapture so you don't have to do stupid things like dumb down the narrative to those not in the know, while also giving hardcore fans an interesting view on the rise and fall of the fair city. You don't really have to have jack in it other than maybe the puppy scene with dr. Suchong. It wouldn't make the players mad by giving an outside view of jack, a character that doesn't need more story because the players made their own. It would give them a different main character in the main worker and switch perspectives when switching recorders. I don't know if Sony would be able to grab the script from the guys who made the radio play but I still think it would be amazing.
I mean, A Cure For Wellness is definitely not a Bioshock adaptation. But I can definitely see it as the answer to the fact that the Bioshock film never happened. ACFW is legitimately one of my favorite thriller films, and I would kill for a Bioshock film in the same vein
I heard Roger Ebert said that video games would never be art. I wonder what he'd have to say about this video.
I actually prefer bioshock to stay as only videogames. The story aint that complicated to follow in game and unless its going "hardcore henry" style (fpv) it would mean we would see jack...and jack is not as much a character as he is the player themselves. I think seeing jack would ruin it as it would mean he would have to talk and show off more exprections. Another reason is that jack doesnt talk because the player can fill that gap with their own ideas of how he would talk and intern let the player get into jacks shoes . Besides videogame movies suck anyway because the viewer cant interact with them, the viewer cant decide to do this or to do that, etc.
Ya know, if they did do a "Hardcore Henry" style Bioshock movie, I would watch the hell out of that
Filling Sauce they should do a film based off the book with bits of the game
With FPV you also run the risk of such a potential movie becoming Doom? The problem with FPV is you see how other people interact with you as the viewer/main character, but never what or how your character looks to the other characters - in a sense, you feel as something of an Invisible Man. :)
I watched this film after seeing your video. REALLY liked it.
me: *reading bioshock in title*
My mind: Would you kindly watch the video.
I'm so glad that you made this video,
I was wondering if anyone else had thought this about the movie when I first saw it,
And I think it was more than a coincidence that Verbinski was set to make the BioShock movie, and made this one later on when he couldn't,
And while watching it, (Cure) and having no idea what to expect, I couldn't help but feel like it seemed like a Proof of Concept if you will, of what a BioShock movie would have been like, in terms of Set-up, Feel, and Style.
Loved the movie, loved BioShock, and really loved that you caught the same vibe I did,
Keep up the good videos, man, (Sorry I watched them in reverse order. ;') )
This is interesting to watch now that a Bioshock adaptation was announced. I loved A Cure for Wellness ever since, and seeing that Verbinski was obviously inspired by Bioshock makes me curious
A Cure For Wellness was my favorite movie of 2017 and one of my top 10 favorite movies
Damn bro sorry to hear that
Drawnartist 4711 uhhhh what?
@@oopartsw911 sorry buddy I really wanted to like this movie and I shouldn't hate on it knowing you like it I wouldn't want someone doing that to me I just didn't enjoy it as much as I hoped my girlfriend didn't like it either and I loaned it to another couple to watch and get their opinions and they both disliked it too I was like "damn"😔
Drawnartist 4711 meh its whatever. I love a lot of films that get hated on. I’m used to it
Clicked on this yesterday and a few hours later they announced the bioshock-netflix movie :D
Apparently it's back in production...
I think a movie about Johnny top side would be a great translation to film.
A very intriguing theory, well put together.
Didn't see the movie, but guess I have to take a look now.
MrBossInDaHouse wait their was a fucking movie?!
kimberly bruce Well it didn't look like a bio shock movie it was way different when you see it.
Dude it's horrible the only 4 people I know who watched this movie including myself thought it was really bad not scary at all and I really wanted to like it I mean I bought it without having seen it I was so sure it'd be good but nope
A Rapture prequel would be cool. Like the beginning of the end, before all out civil war occurred
Great video, I can tell you put a lot of effort into making it and it's nice to see!
I like movies like this. They are heavily inspired by a big ip but create their own story and lore, arguably better for this medium too. Smaller studios should do more like this especially for A24.
I have to admit I would rather have no Bioshock movie than a bad one. Even tho I'm one of those hardcore fans who love this franchise go death. It would just annoy the heck out of me if they screw it over..
Watched it, I'm a huge Bioshock fan and they don't have a single time in common
I hope they make a bioshock movie that gonna be a awesome horror movie
What you suggested for a movie is basically the story of the bioshock infinite DLC Burial at Sea (part 1). A white haired Booker is in rapture and Elizabeth finds him to find a girl who has become a little sister.
The problem with adapting Bioshock is in the very nature of it's message. Bioshock is about video games, and the blind obedience and illusion of choice they impose on the player. A true Bioshock movie would ignore Rapture and the theme of choice and instead focus on the nature and illusions of cinema.
Amazing movie but it hurts so bad seeing all the similarities and what could have been. Like hanna. Clearly supposed to be a little sister
Thanks for this. I had heard of A Cure for Wellness but I had no idea what kind of movie it was. I'm going to have to see it.
Interesting but if a live action version of BioShock was ever to be it needs to be a tv series set before the events of BioShock, hypothetically called "Welcome to Raputure" centering around a detective, investigating crimes taking place within the city of Rapture this way you can lead the story to the events that take place in BioShock and it gives you more room to work with side storys and give people more insight into characters before there demise in BioShock!!
This totally reminded me of this movie, need to give it a rewatch sometime
Great video! Keep up the good work man!
You could easily make Jack a functional character, the base is there, just flesh it out some more.
I think the "City of Ember" movie reminded me the most of Bioshock.
Damn
He really has changed over these 6 years
Honestly, I think Ken Levine made the right call. While I agree there are similarities here, I just don't see how even an R-rated *Bioshock* adaptation with the best budget can fully recapture the original's magic. I say this out of logic, not bias.
Even a 3 hr length + Filmento's proposed rewrite wouldn't be enough imo to replicate the lore building, characters, plot, and overall experience that made *Bioshock* what it is. Whatever the approach, it'd most likely at best be a limited imitation.
Some stories are just better off left as is in their own medium, and there's NOTHING at all wrong with that. Sometimes, the best way to demonstrate appreciation or respect for a quality product or art is knowing when to leave good things ALONE.
You can actually read and download John Logan's Bioshock script, so you or someone else can do a comparison between A Cure for Wellness and the unproduced script (since it might contain differences from the game)
I definitely I want to see a Bioshock movie and have Guillermo Del Toro involved with the project and either make it Live action or 2D Animated, but we already know that it should definitely be Rated R and they should do it right
I did feel a bio shock watching this movie. They could sorta take a similar approach for a true bioshock.
Doesnt need to follow jack but if it does i would prefer he had personality. Likeable or otherwise.
Water + steam punk + rapture feel = bioshock
Never heard of that movie, but I will look into it now. And I could have sworn I heard Guillermo Del Toro's name being thrown around for a Bioshock movie, but I could be wrong. That being said I got a lot of Bioshock vibes from atmosphere of the Shape of Water so who knows.
They should make the movie about that guy on the audio logs from bioshock 2, the one looking for his daughter who was turned into a little sister.
Tomorrowland had parts that were pretty Bioshocky.
I heard bioshock might be getting a movie
The best approach by far would be to film the story of Rapture.. instead of a play by play of the game. There are plenty of fully fleshed out characters and enough story for several movies if done right. I'm glad they pulled the plug though.. do it right or not at all. There is absolutely no way to do the story justice with less than an R rating. We are talking about some really dark content and extreme violence, much of it involving children.
Bioshock movie should focus on the story of Mark Meltzer from Bioshock 2. A man looking for his daughter discovers rapture and has to find is way through a crumbling city. You can give him a counterpart to go through the story with so it's not as empty as the game, maybe Atlas could be with him the whole time instead of on a walkie talkie, maybe he has a very cowardly C3PO personality and then big reveal he's Frank Fontaine.
Joshua Barkdull But we already got his story. There's Something In The Sea introduced it and BioShock 2 concluded it. Everything that's to tell about Mark Meltzer has already been told.
I'm laughing so hard. A cure for wellness is nothing like Bioshock
I appreciate your thoughts, and yet don’t care to make the comparison. I love Bioshock. This movie could fill some compelling previews, but was a jaggedly stitched together mess of unfulfilling twists and unconvincing moments. The movie wasn’t worth watching, despite bits of stylish flair, but those games had impact. Glad they didn’t make a weak adaptation. A solid R rated movie might be a Watchmen-level artistic success, but I can see why it was risky.
Hate to tell you 'Bioshock' and "A Cure for Wellness" simply used common story elements common in stories with same tone/themes. So are you saying 'Neo-Genesis Evangeline' and 'Fooly Cooly' are the same? By your logic they must be
buddy i really love ur vids. im kinda tipsy and i think id love if u did some stuff on tarantino
I think a bioshock movie has as much potential as the video game just because the video game has such an interesting story and universe, it just needs to be advised by the original writers in order for a faithful adaptation to be made.
When i heard that Bioshock infinate's DLC was going bring Elisabeth to Rapture. I assumed Elisabeth was going to turn into a Big Sister at the end.
Definitely not Bioshock
I still wish a rapture based bio shock would be cool
Man, you're awesome, but you should really, REALLY try to get better at the audio! This is a trip video. Subscribesd, liked and I would love to see some improvements on the narrative!
Awesome channel and ideas!
How difficult can it be to make a bioshock movie. It doesn't need to be GORE. Just make a psychological horror. There are so many examples in cinema history. I would end the movie, with Jack's plane crashing (or something like that in the background) and the film's main climax - new year's eve (with reference to Subject Delta also somewhere in the background).
Why is every RUclipsr comparing this movie to Bioshock? Only things similar are the era it's set in and the lab happens to be underwater...
NooB Auto Parts I think it's because it invokes similar feelings both thematically and aesthetically.
great analysis!
Imagine if a movie was produced and it was named bioshock but it's not actually bioshock.
I LOVE gore. He woulda been perfect for making this movie
Those Corporate guy's sure do love CGI
*still would have loved seeing delta vs big daddy on big screen*
We almost got this film (which would include a hard R), but after the reasonable failure of Watchmen, the studio gave up.
"I want bioshock damn it"
you and me both brother.
The main setting of bioshock is rand objectivism there is actually a two part atlas shrugged movie series that's horrible but has a real bioshock theme just ironically told from the perspective of Andrew Ryan as the good guy
The only thing it has in common with Bioshock is water...
I really feel like you’re reaching on this one. Similarities between these two properties exist only in the broadest and most vague of terms.
Great content.. keep it up! :D
I agree, a G-13 of Bioshock would most likely really suck.
Constants, and variables. How know, he may be "It" in another universe :P
Another movie i got some light Bioshock vibes from was The Shape of Water.
So although I understand your overall point, "A Cure For Wellness" wasn't really Bioshock at all. The steampunk and mysterious feel is there but its also there in "The Shape of Water". My end point is that just because there is water involved, that doesn't mean that its based on Bioshock.
Elysium (2013) reminded me a bit of Bioshock as well ... 🤔
I would also call Snowpeircer a bioshock-esk movie