Canon EOS 90D and M6 Mark II Hands-on Field Test
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Both the new Canon EOS 90D and the M6 Mark II have a new 32.5-megapixel sensor and a Digic 8 processor. Although, they are very similar at the core, they differ greatly in terms of their form factor and overall feature set. Watch as Dave Paul and Evelyn Drake test these cameras at the Rocky Mountain Show Jumping grounds.
Special thanks to:
Bianca Ferreira & Duvel for being our main subjects
Rocky Mountain Show Jumping: rmsj.ca
Diana Ferreira & Lava Hair for Ev's new cut & colour: www.lavahairsal...
Canon EOS 90D: www.thecameras...
Canon EOS M6 Mark II: www.thecameras...
Videography by Brendan Schmidt
www.brendan-sc...
Instagram:
Evelyn Drake: @tcstvev
Dave Paul: @tcstvdave
Main: @thecamerastore
#Canon #90D #M6II
It’s 2022 and I went with the m6 mark ii. It’s a wonderful compact and powerful system with room for growth.
Ive bought the 90d. Id like a mirrorless maybe. For the ability to shoot silently. But I dont like the small size, and I dont like the small battery. And the screen that doesnt flip sideways is a dealbreaker for me. And so is the missing headphone socket. (no camera has a headphone JACK, by the way).
Nice to see The Camera Store introducing these 2 cameras...so much talk and speculation and very little hands on videos....I hope this is only an intro. I would like to see more footage taken with the Canon 90D in 4 K in both cropped and uncropped mode and also see the quality of the 1080p footage and compare it to the 80d. And of course I would love to see some low light video testing some time soon pls. Nice review-nice to see new faces (at least to me) and a personal style- but I would love to see more footage taken with the actual cameras...Thanks for posting! Cheers from Toronto!
to clarify...so much speculation in OTHER videos! This one is good! To see the cameras in action!
I bought the 90D. The form factor is very important to me, may be in future I will need to get used to the idea of having a much smaller body. But, right now, I still much prefer the bigger size of the DSLR, I don't have huge hands, still I found the 90D a little small to hold without the battery grip, so like I always do I also bought the battery grip. It is quite a big battery grip and heavy because it is using the LP-E6N battery, still I found it so much nicer to hold with the battery grip if that makes sense. Other than that, you don't need to use any adapter for the lenses which is a major plus. In terms of practicality, it is hard to use live view, what I do is to pull the camera forward to make the camera strap taught around my neck which then makes it much easier to aim. Will be getting a LCD viewfinder. What I found is focusing is more accurate in live view in general as opposed to using the viewfinder. Either way, is safe to say the 90D will most likely be my last DSLR.
Father and daughter make a good reviewing team good video guys keep it up
wait, what?
Is the autofocus when using the EF 100-400mm lens, or in my case I have the Tamron 150-600mm, on the M6ii with the adapter fast enough for wildlife photography?
I love that you have the option of the viewfinder or live view depending on light situations, and the flip screen on 90d allows me to shoot more things without getting in difficult positions
I recently brought the canon 90D camera and is added to my 2 canon 80Ds
6:53 I had a wild horse ride in Yellowstone when a bison decided to charge after the horse I was on. True story (from 2017). If you go on the Cowboy Cookout in Yellowstone since 2017, you've probably heard this story of the tourist being chased by a large male bison. That was me ;-) I thought I was dead...the stirrups kept getting lower and lower and I thought the horse would eventually throw me off because once the stirrups got too low, the saddle was slamming into my rear end and I couldn't hold on much longer. Whew! That was a ride I won't forget.
@TheCameraStoreTV - "Full sensor readout" does NOT mean it uses the full width of the sensor (i.e. there is no crop). "Full sensor readout" means all of the pixels (in this case 32mp) on the sensor are being used and downsampled to create the final image (resulting in extremely detailed footage). This is clearly not happening with this camera (though it may *possibly* be happening in the 4K crop mode).
Love the professionalism of you too guy’s, no matter what camera you review it always feels special . Thank you for awesome reviews.
6:30 She is the owner of the CameraStore daughter 😁
I kinda buffer at that part
Yes, at first I wasn't even sure what that meant. It took a moment to parse it into English. :-)
She actually said "She's the owner of the CameraStore's daughter." The clause "owner of the CameraStore" is a phrasal noun. Then she ends that noun with a possesive form "CameraStore's." Therefore, the sentence "She's the owner of the CameraStore's daughter" is gramatically correct.
I still love the DSLR and I think the 90D is an excellent camera 🙏
Going to be buying one soon still. Did you buy yours with a kit lens?
@@chunkymomvlogs7220 yes i did because Alle my old lenses from my 5D Mark III are non STM so they aren't quiet during Dual pixel AF. 😊
Very nice review, both seem like great choices.
What is the bitrate in 1080 and 4K on both?
Get the EF-M 32mm 1.4 lens as it is surely one of the best out there. There is also an EF-M 22mm that is awesome. Add the 200mm and your are set. or 50mm and it's game over. There is enough glass out there.
T is a curious situation. Usually a mirrorless camera is better than a DSLR for video, but in this case the M6 M2 is better for stills, and the 90D is better for video.
The battery and headphone jack makes the 90D first choice unless shooting sports stills, but both cameras get big black marks for no 24fps. It might not be used very often, but whenever doing anything artistic and working in a group, the default is almost always 24fps. Plus it is not just amateurs who buy these cameras. Pros also buy cheaper cameras for various reasons and pros often use 24fps. This is an idiot move on Canon’s part. It is as if Canon makes cameras because people expect it, but they are quite happy to see people continue to migrate to Sony just to get basic things like 24fps.
What Canon stopping allowing to install external EVF on D90 that will be make D90 all in one camera
Nice review. It's the lack of m glass that puts me off the m6, otherwise would be a nice b cam to my eos r. An adapter to r glass would be great, but according to other sources it's not physically possible. May be the m50 mark 2 could be the perfect bundle 🤔🤔 I use the rx100vii, but Sony menus and ergonomics, no proper touch screen so limiting imo. Despite its does do great photos and videos as an end result. If the m6 binned the flash for a pop up evf, it would have been 👌👌👌
Does the M6 mark 2 really have A UHS-II card slot?
Yes it does. :)
@@TheCameraStoreTV That's great ! Thanks
Why does everyone act like lens stabilisation doesn't exist?
It's more that with in body stabilisation it can work with the lens creating even more stable footage for example the R5 gets upto 8 stops of stabilisation with an image stabilised lens
@@NatesEscape video doesn't matter at all to me, stills shooter here. I can see that all RUclips reviews are reviewing video as a priority these days. Lens stabilisation is fine for my use. Video doesn't sway my opinion at all.
@@KPAki1Ler image stabilisation matters in photos as well though means you don't have to use a fast shutter speed all the time especially for taking long exposure shots hand held or even shooting a bird flying really fast etc...
It's not just for video
@@NatesEscape yea i know
Ik heb de 90D en de m6 mark 2. De 90D voor de wildlife en sport en de M6 meer voor algemeen gebruik en hij is wat makkelijker om mee te nemen
Great video. Would a lcd viewfinder be a great thing to put on the 90D lcd screen to take advantage of eye AF?
Been thinking the same thing.
I use an LCD viewfinder with my T3i and 80D. It’s a great tool for shooting video outside.
What telephoto lens you used for Canon M6 Mark II? I am looking for a good telephoto lens for wildlife photography with my Canon Mark II.
Their 70-200 for the M is decent, otherwise you could get a fixed lens from a 3rd party ~ or of course adaptor + EF lens.
I understand face detection with showjumping, but I normally shoot motorsports and aviation demo's. Isn't cross type DSLR autofocusing faster in my application?
I'm so used using the focus points in a DSLR that although I can easily change the focusing on a mirrorless and it can face track, I still feel more comfortable just putting the focus point in the subject. But probably people that will get used otherwise will find DSLR very clunky and rigid, maybe.
I'm new to photography and looking to upgrade, mainly want to shoot with larger glass, and like a viewfinder. would the 90D be a better bet. Thanks Mick
2020 in few months and still no in body IS on Canon 90d? Perhaps I am expecting too much ?
IBIS is not possible on DSLRs.. you see any other implement that in dslrs?
Canon announced their trinity of 2.8 lenses for the R mount and they all have IS so I think it will be a while before IBIS is a feature in their mirror-less bodies.
@@ZaberAnsaryOfficial Pentax has had IBIS in their DSLRs for years and works amazingly, I can mount any lens and have IBIS.
If canon wants to keep m series they need good glass (small/sharp)
And mirrorless full frame compatibility
John Doe why? Even on EF-S users still tend to use the EF lenses on the smaller cameras. Canon sells lots of EF-M adapters and have little reason to hurry too fast with releasing M lenses. That said, if the M6 M2 sells as well as the M50 does, we are sure to see more M lenses eventually. Up until the M50 the whole M line was a low seller. The M50 changed that, and the M6 M2 is equally attractive as a purchasing option. I hope it is a hit for Canon.
EF-M 22mm F2 is tiny and really sharp
Are Canon likely to be able to fix the AF Eye detect issues with a firmware update ? how to the liveview screens cope in bright sunlight ie being able to use them
Hair looks nice Eveline!😁
Thanks John. I'm growing it out. -Evelyn
Not a fan with the M6 Mark II EVF, just another add on costs that should be included in the first place.
What camera was this video shot with?
Our trusty Panasonic GH5.
as a professional protographer can you recomend which is best to use 90D or 6DM2? I'm thorn between these gorgious cameras
As a professional you should get the 5DmkIV or the R5.
M6 needs an expensive adaptor for EF lenses. 90D 4k isn't really 4k? How are they getting 4k? Why didn't you mention this IMPORTANT point for video shooters?
Interesting review, although what I really want to know from Evelyn and Dave, is this: with all of the equipment you test, what camera(s) do you actually own, and use yourselves? What did you choose to spend your money on?
Hey Christopher,
I (Evelyn) bought a Fujifilm X-T3 last fall. It's my baby and is great to travel with so I bring it with me everywhere. I chose it as my main camera because I love the feel and experience. We also have a Panasonic GH5 at home that I sometimes shoot with. But, that is mostly my husband's video camera. Dave has been shooting with Canon DSLRs for many many years. He currently still owns his trusty Canon 5D Mark III, but hasn't pulled the trigger on what mirrorless system to buy into yet.
@@TheCameraStoreTV Thanks Evelyn. I appreciate the reply. Shooting with a crop sensor camera makes total sense to me, especially when travelling, as does using a tried and tested dSLR system. I use the OM-D E-M1, primarily, and have done so for years. Of late, I've been weighing the options for a replacement, but reviews alone are only so useful. Knowing what people trust also helps. Cheers.
@@TheCameraStoreTV Based on your preferences l think Dave would be as disappointed as other Canon shooters that there is no 7DM3 coming. That's what's missing in action from Canon. In product management terms they still have too many models and too many mounts.
Great review as always, thanks!
Thanks Jess!
All great and fine. Would be great seeing some printouts (large format, at least 20") coming out of it. Ease of use? I can use a smartphone for insta-snaps so any photos I take have to take print quality first. SLR always my choice because I have large hands and mirrorless have so far not been at all practical, no matter the bells and whistles (or brand)
FWIW, I've printed roadside signs featuring pictures from my GX85 (16mpx) and G9 (20mpx). Remember that only a few years ago that was all the industry had in top-of-the-line cameras, and we did fine. If you have large hands, the G9 is definitely a comfortable camera to hold and shoot with. I found the GX85 too small for professional work, but I adored it for taking casual pictures/street photography.
Canon claims that the 90D offers face tracking through the optical viewfinder -- their website specifically says "The EOS 90D camera also incorporates Canon’s EOS Intelligent Tracking and Recognition system (EOS iTR AF) that detects and tracks your face - even while looking through the optical viewfinder - automatically switching the AF point to optimize face tracking" -- but your video makes it sound as if that feature does not exist. Does it actually offer that feature, and if so, does the feature work well or is it just a bullshit advertising claim?
That's correct. Canon has new iTR AF technology that uses the metering system in the viewfinder to prioritize a face when it detects one in the frame. However, it does not highlight and track a face as obviously and as accurately as dual pixel AF which uses the pixels on the sensor to detect a person in the scene. We should have specified this. But, in our initial test, the iTR did not behave in a way that was obviously tracking a face. I wouldn't call it BS, as it works. But, it is still not as good as the tracking face and eye detection we see in live view or mirrorless cameras.
Great review. Super location.
If only you could put the DC2 on the 90D... Hard to like these cameras for what they are when I am frustrated over what they are not. Nice review.
M6 mark ii or xt30？for family picture and travel ....thanks
Nice! thanks for sharing this video.
Hmm.. sound I go from my 7d mark 2 to the 90d?
How does this compare with the Fuji XT30.
awsome check of AF ! nice Job !
i love 90 d i am planing to buy,,i think i will
I feel like you guys had a lot of fun this time around.
We always have fun. ;P
@@TheCameraStoreTV to clarify, I meant extra fun. Soaking in some of the last sunshine eh?
The 90D or the D500?
Nice review
Which is the best aps-c camera in the market now. Please help me 🤔.
Every camera has a tradeoff it's just which one you rather deal with, for me I love the canon 90d because it has the flippy screen and quality is still good enough for photo and video it's a great all round camera, but others may like Sony or nikon for different reasons, there is no best camera it's the camera that's right for you to get started
So how about trying to do m6 mark ii shots with off camera flash with a transmitter, or even on camera, and use the evf. And not the tiny built in flash. YOU CAN'T! Total deal breaker for anyone who does flash photography and wants to use the evf.
One thing Canon could've done was building a full frame mirrorless system with the EOSM mount, the M mount is larger than Sony's E mount and if that doesn't allow Canon to put f1.0 AF full frame lens on then so be it, Canon should've known that they are competing with Sony now instead of Nikon, maintaining another incompatible system makes people doubt about your strategy, no room for half measures here, a bigger mount isn't going to help compete with AI trained AF or any computational side of things coming in the future.
Keep dreaming!
DSLR all the way for wildlife
Unless you buy the Sony A9 or A7R4 which are way better than DSLR have a search for Mark Smith channel
@@naturealbums I talk to Mark often..If you notice he uses the Sony's more for video and the D850 and D500 for stills..The mirrorless cameras AF gets confused with a busy background but they are getting there
@@naturealbums LOL... out in the wild, you can't scope/scan via that EVF or back LCD for long, the sensor will overhear in about 45 mins, or the noise would have increased. Also, not to confuse between wildlife (in the wild for days) vs backyard or zoo. LOL
@@naturealbums Yes of course $$$
@@naturealbums Sony can do the job, but at a high price!
No face detect the the ovf ????????? what a deal breaker that is.
Thanks 👍✳️👍✳️👍✳️
Hi
Arrrghhh!!! I want Ev's cute bob back!!!!
Guys from other reviews I know the 4K in these cameras isnt really 4K but more a 1080p with inflated files, I was hoping you will share this with the viewers and not hide, this is yet another way Canon is crippling their cameras, if you want REAL 4K footage you will have to look elsewhere. This is a very important point you need to add to your review!
I wish I can afford a camera
What a huge sad story and honest words these are.
Geez Louise Canon... That PD adapter price is almost Apple levels. Almost.
I know! It would be awesome if they could install a USB-C port that could charge direct without a PD adapter.
The only thing bothering me, is that 120 Fps with no AF ....but otherwise, i am glad that canon Made another great camera, for all of my very expensive lenses....so i havent been investing in glass for Nothing.....😁....and i only wish i was younger Again.... a beautifull woman with a gorgeous smile ,and a daddy who ownes a camera store.....when you introduced her ,you should have startend with the phrase.....once upon the time there was a........😁
I like dslr because dslr have big battery.
Why don't Canon make it so you can use the DSLR like a mirror less by making the mirror stay up for that mode and then you can use the evf and the other features. I use the M3 , I have two, and the M5 with M and EFL lenses using a 0.7 adapter. Good enough results if you don't get too anal about it.
A hybrid viewfinder would be interesting.
@@TheCameraStoreTV A technical problem for the clever buggers at Canon to solve, maybe the bottom layer of the prism could be electro active and become a screen when energised and the mirror is kept up or, maybe, one of the 3 reflective faces.
This is what happens when your language doesn't have cases.🤣🤣😁😁
6:42
Nooice😁
There is something really sexy and sweet about the female reviewer. She is wife material!
You both gave us a really good idea of what these cameras are like and what separates them.
These small mirrorless cameras quickly lose their advantage over DSLRs once you put on a zoom lens. So are they worth it? Are EVFs better than optical? You can always glance at the screen. What I don't like is having to press a button to go live view. Why can't they just work it off a proximity sensor?
Nothing about video quality, and crop mode in 90d. Nothing about viewfinder AF performance with new ITR system. Just specs and some obvious things, that we know from first wave reviews in day of release... Sorry, but dislike.
No worries. If you are curious, video quality is great on both. No, we didn't mention the crop mode and focused on talking about the full sensor readout. Some reviewers have said the crop mode is slightly sharper. But, when we exported the footage to view it, the difference was negligible.
tubby time
The 90D could have been great, but...
but you haven't touch it yet, correct?
@@themjian Incorrect, I got to play with it briefly at a demo showing.
Maybe you should check Sony A77 or A77mk2, released 5 years ago... eats that 90D for breakfast...
Artur Gajda you want them to review a 5 year old camera nobody owns?
@@randallherreraNyc do you call me nobody? Go play your toys trendy boy. It's funny how people get wet about technology that is 5 years overdated, only because Canon sells it now.
So the bottom line is that if you want to take advantage of the SENSOR....you must use GOOD GLASS which = The more expensive glass canon lenses. You know the ones with that ridiculous looking red stripe. So at this point you might as well spend an other 2K and get a full frame camera. This way you will have twice the image quality. You just can't fit 15 pounds of Puppy crap into a 10 pound bag. ANd that is what happens when you shoot with APSC sensors. Regardless of the pixels.
"Real World Retired Pro Comment!"
Or you can get an adapter, buy the nicer glass, keep the smaller body, and still get double the image quality. There are people who prefer a smaller body and are willing to work around the trade offs. You can get great pictures with APSC sensors and you have to be a fool to think that it can’t. Photography is subjective, but if you know what you are doing you can get a great shot with ANY camera. The photographer is the most important factor and not the camera. The tool is just a tool
@@joshuareveles Every pro that I know. That had shot a APSC we have all concurred. Junk compared to a full frame sensor. I see it in my D7200. And I have good glass. My Cheapo 610 blows it away and the 810 there is no match. I mean guys that are shooting birds fine. But for shooting landscape and people on a 2/3's it is a dog. Full Frame only.
"NO MEMORY CARD INSIDE THE CAMERA, Is the guy a clown doing a demo taking loads of picture so he thinks with NO MEMORY CARD INSIDE THE CAMERA. NO MEMORY CARD INSIDE THE CAMERA. NO MEMORY CARD INSIDE THE CAMERA. NO MEMORY CARD INSIDE THE CAMERA. NO MEMORY CARD INSIDE THE CAMERA.NO MEMORY CARD INSIDE THE CAMERA.
The close ups of the cameras where taken at a different time, that's why there's no card.
DSLRs are dead. Change my mind.
I don't think any camera system will ever be 100% dead. But, are they still relevant/superior to mirrorless in any way? IMO the only true compelling reason to go with a DSLR over mirrorless is battery life. But, there is a solution for that. (buy some extra batteries)
@@TheCameraStoreTV Sorry for the aggressive comment. I do however think mirrorless is the future. Hell, it's even the present. I have owned a dslr and always found it frustrating having to work with two focusing systems and having to guess what the final image would looking look like. I have since switched to mirrorless and very seldom find myself using more than one battery for professional shoots despite owning two batteries.
@@ApertureApex DSLRs are only dead to those who don't enjoy using them. I have nothing against mirrorless cameras and I have used the likes of the EOS M50, EOS R, Sony a7III, and the Nikon Z 6, but I still love and prefer to shoot with my DSLRs and if I were to buy a new camera, it'd be a DSLR. No need to get triggered because a new DSLR was released. If you don't like it, don't buy it, simple.
@@TheCameraStoreTV Sony Z batteries
I prefer the ergonomics of the 90d to any mirrorless camera.