Canon EOS M6 II - in-depth review of Canon's best APSC mirrorless! Check prices at B&H: bhpho.to/2ZqAw5N or Amazon: amzn.to/2ovHNAg Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Like Cameralabs? Get the T-Shirt: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Filmed with the Sony A6400 and e 24mm: bhpho.to/2CqYrEs 00:58 - Design and controls, screen, EVF, ports, battery 07:17 - Lenses 09:55 - Autofocus with native and adapted lenses 13:01 - RAW burst mode 15:33 - Shutter types - mechanical, electronic, bulb timer 17:05 - Focus bracketing and stacking 18:08 - Movies, quality, slow motion, 4k vs 1080, autofocus 24:46 - Sensor and photo quality, resolution vs 24 Megapixels 28:40 - Final verdict
Clearly, the best Canon M6 MII review on RUclips. Well done Gordon. I wish they would update the M5 for photographers that want a light body and dont really care much for video. Focus Stacking, and built in Expanded HDR options would be welcomed. Unfortunately I see canon moving towards supporting the RF lens and R body more than the EOS-M system. Thanks for a great review.
Yes. I still can’t believe that Canon is calling the M6m2 their flagship M system camera going forward. I can’t see them abandoning the M5 form factor. I’m really hoping that we’ll see a new M5 six months from now with IBIS and a higher res viewfinder. However, the cynic in me thinks Canon won’t choose an M system camera as the first body to showcase their new IBIS technology especially with a R successor in the works but I can only keep hoping . . .
@@doogieham it's hard to predict where Canon will go with this, but they are very invested in full-frame mirrorless and the RP isn't that much more than a high-end APSC model would be.
Recently bought the M6ii...very happy with my the Sigma 16mm 1.4 lens on this body. But I must say, your skills on breaking down cameras on RUclips is absolutely Masterclass...Bravo!
This is a great review. I just wish Canon would release a M5 mark ii. It seems a shame that currently we have to decide between the better screen design and integrated viewfinder of the M50, and the better shooting controls, sensors, and video options of the M6 mark ii. Why not put it all in one package and release it at the same time at a higher price? Canon should give us the option to have the best of both worlds!
I bought the M6mkii and alternate between it and my 7Dmkii with the canon 100-400mkii. I love the controls, and speed of the M6, but the lag of the EVF versus the optical causes me to miss shots. The M6 mkii is an awesome camera in a small package otherwise.
I was initially going for the 90D, but the silent shutter, and the ability through a speedbooster to have two photographic opportunities with the same lens, made me determined for the M6 mark2. I previous had the M6 mark1, but sold it because of very noisy shutter and slow handling. This new model shows a new direction
I wonder if any other review could top your review of this camera. Like always the most comprehensive reviews ever. I might buy you a coffee on here and if I get to meet you. Keep up the great work Gordon!
I love the amount of detail you went into here. Great review! The lack of evf is a pain, but that plus dropping the NFC connectivity are a deal breaker for me!
Another fine review, Gordon, thanks! My feeling is that Canon's intended market all along for the EOS M has been casual photographers and vloggers who rarely exchange the kit lens for anything else; the Rebel series of mirrorless, if you will. When there have been more bodies (10, by my count) than lenses (8) since the original EOS M -- and most of those lenses are variable aperture zooms (5) rather than primes (3) -- along with the fact that they seem to be all-in for making the EOS R series a competent system for high-end amateurs and professionals, one can't help but think Canon is once again thoroughly ensuring it's products do not overlap on features with one another.
Yes. I still can’t believe that Canon is calling the M6m2 their flagship M system camera going forward. I can’t see them abandoning the M5 form factor. I’m really hoping that we’ll see a new M5 six months from now with IBIS and a higher res viewfinder. However, the cynic in me thinks Canon won’t choose an M system camera as the first body to showcase their new IBIS technology especially with a R successor in the works but I can only keep hoping . . .
Good review as ever Gordon. I have the original M6 and welcome the improvements in the MkII however I will probably hold out until they produce an upgraded M50 because I find I use the clip on viewfinder rather a lot. On the question of more lenses of which I have 4 from the current catalogue, yes Canon should because whilst I have the adapter so that I can mount any of my EF lenses, the weight and size of those lenses rather defeats the whole point of a small ICL body for travel and casual use. But that said and with Canon likely focused (no pun intended) on expanding their R range of lenses, I think it will be a long time before we see anything from them on M lenses. The thing that has always fascinated me is the popularity of the M range particularly in Japan so it makes some sense for third parties like Sigma to take up the slack and produce native M series lenses at likely, premium prices because they might be shooting at an open goal here in terms of sales with no competition from Canon.
I think canon m5 mark ii is already released with a new model name called Eos RP...so Canon is using M6 Mark ii as the flagship model in M series... It's also good to use Canon EF-M lenses for both esthetics and portability. If you really pursue very high quality images with mirrorless cameras, Canon R family will be your choice.
Thanks for the review. When you compared Canon vs Sony at 20:37 I noticed that Sony has much more pronounced sharpening artifacts (brighter lines around black objects), so an apparent increase in sharpness may be due to software sharpening.
7:24 focus rapidly hunts when you see "EOS" letter. I suspect this shot is by Fuji. I used X-T20 and I suffer focus hunt even at a very static B roll shot.
Hi there Gordon, thank you for such a comprehensive review! In your dealings with Canon did they ever clearly state whether this camera replaces both the M6 AND M5 line of cameras? In other words, do you think we will ever see an M5 mark II? Thank you.
Hmm, good question, but sadly they rarely if ever answer questions like that. I suspect with the RP not too far above that the M6 II will be the top APSC model. I hope we'll see an M50 update though.
Either would be very good. Using Sony for some time and Canon has better Ergonomics. But watch reviews and only you can choose. Its your money. I love Sony and lens selection is great, and does everything you can ask. But for some people its art/colors vs glass like sharpness. It's what your eyes enjoy. Amongst friends and family with new apple and samsung phones, they are blown away by quality of images from 16mp NexF3. So its what you personally enjoy.
About the charger: It has to support the PD Spec. So when buying a charger just look for PD and you're good to go! (PD is a technique where charger and device basically communicate what charging rates the device can handle. This prevents the 100w (or whatever wattage your macbook charger has) charger to blow up your cam's battery)
Once again, another outstanding camera review by you Gordon. You are the “Gold Standard” by which all the other reviewers should try to embrace and attain… 😊
Hey amazing video!! I currently have the 200d and wonder if I would regret the megapixels of the eos 6m mark ii with my current lenses: 1. Canon 10 18mm EFS 2. Sigma 30mm art 1.4 efs mount 3. Canon macro 60mm EFS Do you think any of this lenses would not be able to cope with the higher megapixels? Regarding the Canon 6m mark ii would I be able to use it with off camera external flashes like yongnuo yn 560 iii with the yongnuo yn 560 tx controller on the hot shoe? Just manual flash no TTL option. Also how is the 1080p 120 fps video quality? I would be so hyped for a Canon eos m aps c line but with 120 fps af and IBIS. Will it ever happen you think in the aps c line? Thanks in advance
I think your lenses would be fine on the M6 II. I'm not sure how many new EOS M products we can expect from Canon as they seem very focused on EOS R right now, but who knows?
Bought the M6 Mk2 about 2 weeks ago and absolutely love it. Beats my Lumix GX9 in many areas. The body is cheaper too. Anyway, I am keeping both system.
@@sdhute Yes but I could not use it much as a result of travel restrictions going places. It is still the best value mirrorless camera for taking with you when walking around. The GX9 is good but its sensor is smaller with less resolution. I have both.
Another fantastic review, thanks Gordon! One suggestion: I realize it's probably more of a pain for you, but it would be nice to have a time stamp list where we can jump to different parts of the review, as I'm sure some of us are more interested in certain things than others, and it's a bit fiddly to find the portion one might be interested in. Either way, still a great review! Cheers
@@cameralabs Hmm... I'm not seeing a pinned comment. Probably an issue on my end and not yours. Not sure. And I've seen it done in the description up top underneath the channel name, but also in a pinned comment. I suppose it doesn't matter where it is. Much appreciated either way, and thanks!
@@cameralabs No idea why I wouldn't be seeing the pinned comment. Really strange. Oh well. Appreciate the add to the description though, my apologies for being a pain. I'll try to figure out the pinned comment issue. =\
Hi Gordon, I'm watching your videos and this video is one of the main factors helped me decide to buy this camera I had it for 3 weeks now and really great! Love the stabilization and colors! I also made an unboxing of this camera the timw I bought this and oh by the way 24p is now available!
Hi Gordon! Awesome review as always! I always view your videos because they are very detailed and informative. BTW, can you do a side by side comparison of the M6 2 vs Sony a6400 for portraits and color performance? Sony claims to have a comparable color science to canon with the a6400 but when I saw the video that you take from the beach with both cameras at 19:46 sony's color is horrible and too flat in my opinion. I don't color grade that much as I shoot family photos and videos only and Jpeg is my main selection. I've only seen landscape comparison in this video and I hope you will add it in your future comparisons. Thank you!
I still think Canon's colours look better. While the conditions vary, you can compare the sample images I've taken with each camera as I try and take lots that are of the same subjects for comparison. You can find these in my reviews at cameralabs.com
@@cameralabs Went to your site and I was stunned by the image quality of canon m6 mark 2 compared to the a6400. Colors were really great. Ill actually buy it if it only has unlimited recording option. But nonetheless its a great camera for hobbyist and casual photographers. Great review sir!!
Fantastic review Gordon. Spot on. I haven't been able to put the camera down since I got it. 32mm is an absolute must. Owning a 5d3. I wanted something smaller so size was the primary reason for the m6 II and its exactly what I needed.
Outstanding review and overview! You did a lot of work to put this all together. Hat's Off! I just bought the M6 Mark ii as a second tripod camera for wedding Videography and I use the 90D on my Gimbal or Monopod as my primary Wedding Video camera.
I'm wondering if this is a worthy upgrade for my canon m50 it seems that the m6 mark 2 does not have a crop factor like the m50 would you recommend upgrading to this from the m50? or should I keep the m50 for a lil longer?
You haven't said why you want to upgrade. If it's to avoid the 4k crop, then yes, the M6 II can film without a crop AND with dual pixel AF, but you'll already know that from watching the review.
I am new to this world of photography. I am deciding between this Canon EOS MK6 II or the Sony A6400 or 6100. I mostly want to use it for taking pictures of animals and taking pics when I am out on the city and a little bit of people. I am not too worried about filming. I am leaning a bit more towards the Canon, but a lot of people are recommending the Sony. Or is there even another camera I should be looking at?
Hey, Gordon. I’ve watched both this and your a6400 review. I’m trying to decide if I should return my M6 II and get the a6400 instead due to the 4K overheating issues. Is rolling shutter on the a6400 a noticeable hinderance when vlogging? How would u compare the picture quality of 1080p 120fps between the two cameras? These are my two biggest concerns.
The A6400 definitely has sensitive rolling shutter, but I think the M6 II did too. I find the image quality on the Sony to be excellent - I user it to film all my reviews - but I rarely shoot slomo outside of my tests.
@@cameralabs thanks for the quick reply and comprehensive reviews! Do u own both of these cameras? If so, is there any way u could do a slow motion test using both of them at the same time?
Hi Gordon, some new excellent in deep review, worth the time. A sum up just for me : 4K video IQ is somewhat strange, contrasted, eroded & resolves far less than the Sony. Would never buy because of that. @19:47. Like a mix bag techs for saving processing power (Canon tries to hide, but) that ur eye detects at first glance & the clever chart test confirms.
Vivian Valdi the upshot is less rolling shutter. Sony reads out and downsamples all pixels resulting in superior sharpness but major rolling shutter. Image sharpness is not the only aspect to video imagery. Sony’s Rolling shutter can render footage useless really fast...
I'd much rather have a useful, slightly washed clip than a useless, shutter-rolling heaven, slight sharper one. I don't want the clip to look like my camera is on acid while taking footage.
Thank you for the direct comparison of the images on the m50 vs the m6 mark ii, you're right - the difference wasn't nearly as drastic as I thought it would've been!
Gordon it would be great to see a follow up video on which EF-S lenses can "keep up" with the 32mm f1.4. There's a ton of cheap glass out there; but which can resolve 32.5MP?
Very good review, thanks for taking the time to review this new body properly. I use the original M6 regularly when I don't want to carry the 5D or RP. It's a decent camera and I've captured some lovely shots with it. This upgraded version has me tempted.
it is review by pros like you (with the reasoning and evidence) that I depend on when buying cameras and your conclusion with a recommendation for this camera convinced me to purchase the M6 mkII. thank you.
I briefly contemplated buying this camera. The OEV attachment ensured I didn't. It's small and easy to lose. Maybe I will fork out the money for the 90d as there seem to be some good improvements over the 70d and the 77d I am currently using, but it's touch and go. If only the viewfinder on the 77d were a bit bigger with 100% coverage instead of the 95% it offers. 4k video is not a deal breaker for me.
Good honest review. Thank you for showing a few different lenses. Seems like a good compact camera. But seems like Canon neglected the mirrorless range and lenses.
@Gordon Laing ... I not interested in the video abilities of any camera, as I'm only interested the stills abilities. I have a large reange of EF and EFs lenses, and only M lenses. I'm cosidering the M50, but the M6 II (s/hand) is a possibility.... What would you choose for general / sports / lanscape ? I would prefer a viewfinder (I currently use an M10) as on my 5d mk1.
I think I’m in love with this camera, due to your review ! I have a M3 and then M6, when I realized I wanted to take pictures of flying birds (I use a adapted Nano USM 70-300). I also was missing a silent shutter in both cameras... but did you mention there is no burst possibility with it ? And can you tell me if it’s possible to change the exposure compensation with the function dial, by changing button layout ?
Thanks Pieter, you'll have to check with Canon though as my loan sample was returned several weeks ago and I've tested several other very different cameras since then.
The M6 mk2 marks the point of no return from dSLR... When an entry level Mirrorless camera has more features and goes over the curve of the Enthusiast dSLR like the 90D, especially coming from Canon, that can only mean one thing.. This doesnt mean that dSLR are dead, but they are retiring from the consumer market, and soon the profesional one...
But there are also features on the 90D that are missing in the M6 ii for example cropped 4k. The 90d also doesn't overheat and is weather sealed. DSLRs are a long way from retirement.
@@martinhommel9967 Dont get me wrong. I shoot dSLR right now. I have a 5DVI and 5DsR, also for casual shooting i also own an EOS M6 and M5. Im not against dSLR. But, the undenying thing its that mirror technology has already reach its peak development, and mirrorless tech has just started. The main features of the Mirrorless tech its based on silicon and software, it will keep improving overtime more easily and frequently, with more ease of use and options. Mirrortech will not. For example, the best shooting features of the 90D are based on mirrorless tech and way of shooting. I had the oportunity to try out the EOS R, EOS Rp and Sony A73, and I was impress by those cameras, far better shooting experience than my 5D4, it felt like my high end dSLR was already obsolete. And that was last year (2018)...! Mirror cameras will become what Medium format cameras are right now... a minority and a quite specialiced one.
@@MarkoNara maybe they will, maybe they won't. It seems to me that there is quite a way to go before that could happen. In my opinion it's premature to pronounce DSLRs dead as their ergonomics seem so much more developed. I go window shopping quite often and apart from the Canon R and Lumix bodies there's nothing that could entice me to ditch my DSLRs for mirrorless just yet.
I agree with the statements here and have same thoughts. I think DSLR tech has plateau'd while Mirrorless has become really stable, and is now easily encroaching capabilities that we used to think is untouchable territory for Mirrorless systems 3-4 years ago. The release of M6 Mk II and 90D is a great window to Canon's thinking by putting up pretty much same cameras but in 2 form factors, let the people decide. If we see more lens support for the M6 Mk II in the future, then it could be because it is outselling its DSLR fraternal twin. Canon making EF/EFS adaptable supports this logic too in my eye. Similar with cellphone tech, we started big, then the battle for how small we can get, and now who can go biggest with lesser compromise again. So I'd advice not to let go your DSLRs yet, society might ba back to it again... Hahah
Thank you, Gordon, for another excellent and open minded review of the m6-ii and comparing it to the 90d and xt30 and a6400! I am happy for the Canon fans for this. I am sure those who want to stay with canon will find these improvements significant. In my case, this model and any other canon has more limiitations than I want to. In fact, I would just feel frustrated if I had to compromise so much with Canon. I don't have that frustatration now I have switched to Sony. It's not a perfect camera, but most of the things I need Sony ticks it for me. There is always room for improvement in future releases, but at least, I know I get a better all around camera. After my a7-3, I am now aiming for the a6400 + the 70-350. That would complete my affordable sport/action camera and lens. But then again, for Canon users, the m6-ii is a big and worthy update.
80D and m100 owner here - interesting thought for a mix of photos and videos for someone that travels a lot, and likes to pack very light: Do I supplement these two cameras with the new G7x Mark iii (for ultralight weight travel better than iPhone XR), or get the RP to displace the 80 for photos and youtube channel for the kids and keep the 80D as a backup? I have 3 L lenses: 17-40 F4, 24-70 F4L IS, and 70-200 F2.8L II IS. Would love your thought here Gordon (considering the RP after this review and current $1000 US for the RP right now)...
Great review. I think this is the camera that brings me back to APS-C from Micro Four Thirds. M43 is actually a great system. Sexy, even. But it takes an experienced photographer to get the best results. I'm a novice who needs the larger tried-and-true sensor size to get the results I want with a little less work and worry.
I bought both the M6 Mk II and the Fuji X100V and shot them for several weeks trying to decide on which one. I also bought the Canon EF-M 22mm F/2 pancake lens to use head-to-head vs. the X100V's 23mm F/2. Even though the M6 has 32Mpx and the X100V 26Mpx (I also shot the same comparison photos with Canon's kit 15-45mm lens)... the Fuji was sharper! I guess I should have purchased the Canon 32mm F/1.4 (as you suggest in your review of the M6 II) for possibly a better comparison against the mighty Fuji X-Trans 4 sensor? I returned all of it... because the Fuji's battery started malfunctioning after just a few re-charges...and the Canon didn't measure up against the Fuji. But maybe, I sold the Canon short without shooting it mounted with the 32mm /1.4? Should I re-buy the M6 II again to give it a second chance --Are any of the other Canon EF-M lenses 'equal to' the 32mm for sharpness? Particularly any of a longer focal length to go with the 32mm?
So helpful - I film a lot of dancers who sometimes move slow, sometimes fast. Need a video camera with fast autofocus, preferably 4K, and much is handheld (sometimes with gimbal). Want to upgrade from my Canon 70D which has been great and have canon lenses also - With a budget of around £1000, looking at sony a6400 or sticking to the upgrade to the canon - the 90D. For run and gun shooting, is there a better camera? Gearing towards sony but will dance moves be skewered due to rolling shutter on this? Any advice would be welcome. Many thanks
For good autofocus, it's really between Sony and Canon, and you're right to be wary of Sony if there's fast movement, as there could be some skewing. The Canon is less susceptible to rolling shutter, but its 4k is not as sharp as the Sony. There's no perfect camera!
For my M6II, I own the 22mm F2.0 and the 15-45mm and that's likely all i'll ever buy. Maybe if i was an old man and really wanted to pair down my system, but for now, I want my EF glass. Particularly; 35mm F14. II L.
Could you (or anyone here) help me out with this question regarding the Canon M6 II? Google searched the hell out of it, no luck. Is there a way to shoot an auto exposure bracketing row (AEB) with a (manual Yongnuo) flash trigger on the hot shoe? Frustratingly the 6D and 6D II can do that (as long as there is no TTL flash connected, and even if - you could tape off the 4 other pins), but the M6 I does not allow that (looking at the M6 II hot shoe it seems to be similar). The reason is that there is a little pin under the metal flap inside the hot shoe that turns off the AEB any time anything is depressing that flap. It is not possible to have anything on the hot shoe (even a piece of plastic) and do AEB. Surprisingly I have not found anything online regarding this. Does anyone know if there is a workaround? Would like to buy the M6 II but this issue is a deal breaker for me. Thought about snipping off the metal flap in the hot shoe, but I'm not sure if the M6 would still trigger the flash without the pin being pressed down.
I still thinking either M50 mkii or the M6 mkii. still using my over 10 years old Powershot G12. so am thinking of upgrading. purpose just for taking still photos & videos of my kids growing up and for travelling. anyhow this is a good review. thumbs up!!!
Great, very informative and "to the point" review. Watched almost all reviews about m6 mark ii on YT and this video is most professional in depth. Im still thinking to upgrade my m50 to m6m2 for 1080p120, uncropped 4k and higher mpix sensor for big prints.
Hi. When comparing the M6 MkII with the Canon 90D what do you recommend? My concern is low budget , higher bitrate video than my 70D and some 1080P slow motion. I don’t care about whether shield capabilities. Thank you in advance
Gordon Laing I really don’t care much about the type of camera I want. I just want the best quality video performance for the lowest price. Thanks in advance
@@850Tech the 90D ironically is a bit more flexible with the fully articulated screen and crop option, but I personally prefer the size and weight of the M6 II.
Thanks for the review. Without a built in viewfinder and flip screen, it's a deal breaker for me beyond the shadow of a doubt . . AND . . the very reason I sold my M6 and purchased the M50, the latter of which is amazing!
Finally some innovative features from Canon out there, overall a very nice camera, what not so nice is price tag at the moment, hopefully cost goes down in the near future.
It clearly shows you spent a lot of time to give us the best M6 review out there! About the camera, I have mixed feelings. I appreciate Canon fitting it with interesting features but in this day and age for many people the lack of built-in evf is a further temptation to just use a smartphone. And I find the external evf to be too much of a hassle to carry, fit, remove when screen is up, fit again for high speed shooting, remove again when fitting a mic, fit it again in bright condition,... Good move from Canon overall
Thorough and objective review as we are used to from you Gordon - Good job. It seems like a very good effort by Canon, though I'm still not convinced how much future there is for Canons M system. One minor note, Gordon: Even though the shallow depth of field you use for the product shots gives super sweet and smooth bokeh, I must admit that I think the DoF might be a little too shallow - I find it slightly distracting that parts of the camera is out of focus. What are your thoughts behind using such shallow DoF?
Thanks Peter, I personally enjoy the shallow DOF effect when it works, but I agree it can sometimes get in the way of presenting the information here, so I may make some adjustments!
@@cameralabs Thank you for replying Gordon. That's another thing about your channel that is great - we as followers can actually get to interact with you. Its nice to know that you will give this a thought or two. I want to point out that this was just a minor thing - on the whole I think you are doing a tremendous job and I really enjoy your videos. You are one of only very few channels that I have on "notification bell" - so keep up the good work...
Gordon, question related to lens data. DPP4 has option to load canon lens data which can then be used to correct aspects like distortion. Is there a way to load 3rd party lens data in DPP? Please let me know.
Great review 👍 ps. I’m thinking about buying this camera as I wish to have something smaller for concert photography, can I ask for your opinion? Do you think it’s a good choice with 18-150 mm lens, or maybe you will point me in different direction? Thx for your time
I'm looking for a good lightweight travel/hiking camera for landscape and wildlife and have already a number of full-frame Canon lenses. Problem is, there are little good lenses for EF-M, so yes I can mount the M6 II on a Sigma 150-600 for birding when traveling, but that misses the point of a travel camera; The Sigma already weighs 2kg. Now looking for a Panasonic G9 with the Leica 100-400... A lot more money, but than I have a good travel camera and with the Leica 12-60 a good set (the complete set will weigh only about 2 kg). Canon cripples the M line by supplying only consumer lenses and (almost) no prosumer lenses and stops at focal length of 200mm. So you need the adapter to get more than 200mm and than get stuck with much bigger lenses and weight. And no in-body stabilization for stills...
It would be great if Canon could make a compact and light 100-400mm for the EF-M mount. Go for f 6.7 at the 400mm end and all plastic build to keep the weight (and price) down (like the Olympus 75-300mm another sharp compact and cheap zoom). Also not cripple it with STM instead use nanoUSM.
@@The.Urban.Birder Canon is not going to do that because it would eat in to the lower DSLR range. The same strategy why they ditched 24p on the M6 II. When a camera can do 25p or 30p than of course the software can do 24p... Nope: buy a more expensive camera for that option. And there is a pattern: The EF-S range is also limited. Canon wants you to move as prosumer to the EF full frame line.
@Reuel T After a lot of fuss in the media; remember my comment was 2 month ago and a lot of people were surprised that canon started to listen and do something about it. Good for Canon, I have moved to a great MFT camera.
There must be an M50 mkII launch soon? Maybe with DPAF in 4K with a less harsh crop? And yes, I would like to see more native EOS M lenses. I had the original EOS M with the 22mm f/2 and that was a cracking lens, more please Canon, I think you have more M bodies than lenses! p.s. thanks for the great in depth review.
It's really hard to say. There's rumours of APSC RF bodies, but no evidence yet. I'd like to see them, or for the M mount to continue. I feel maybe it's like Sony who have APSC but mostly concentrate on full-frame. So ultimately I'd like it, but I won't expect it.
Great review! My question is when would you enable or disable the continous auto focus function? It seems to work super except when I don't want it to. What is its purpose?
Great review. Regarding charging it took me a while to understand that merely technology has changed. This one requires a PD (Power Direct) also due to the voltage of the battery that is > 5V regular USB output. I now have a PD powerbank, a PD car charger (inexpensive) and a PD regular wall charger. All relatively inexpensive. I can also charge my EOS R and my small G5X Mk II with those. So, I think using upcoming PD technology is a good thing. However, they should be more clear that this technology is used and compatible. I even asked Canon support in Germany and they were more then reluctant to give this information.
Well, I'm a year late. But my question seems to span eons. No one talks about exposure control in video mode. Without it, no sale. I have no idea if there is any after this video, or if there is, what the range of override is, or whether it can be completely locked down.
As always, best review by far. Thanks again for all you work and efforts. :) . Coming from Sony NEX/a6*** since 2012, the Canon colors and final images are much more appealing. Like what you see in magazines, Canon seem to aim for that printed look. Sony seem more digital. The video might be sharper in Sony, but Canons has better colors.
A great review. Good that you mention the lack of built-in EVF on the M6 II. To me, having to clip on that hideous-looking EVF on top of the camera takes it out of the running as an otherwise great camera for street photography.
By far the best review on this camera I've watched. Good job.
Picked this up for use on my Channel reviews. So far, it is outstanding.
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Filmed with the Sony A6400 and e 24mm: bhpho.to/2CqYrEs
00:58 - Design and controls, screen, EVF, ports, battery
07:17 - Lenses
09:55 - Autofocus with native and adapted lenses
13:01 - RAW burst mode
15:33 - Shutter types - mechanical, electronic, bulb timer
17:05 - Focus bracketing and stacking
18:08 - Movies, quality, slow motion, 4k vs 1080, autofocus
24:46 - Sensor and photo quality, resolution vs 24 Megapixels
28:40 - Final verdict
This is so good, it like a lesson about these cameras. I loved the split screen comparison, its puts a lot of doubts to rest. Thank you..
You're very welcome, it's a lot of work, so nice to hear when people find it useful!
06:00 Canon EOS M6 does support 10-bit 4:2:2 (Uncompressed YCbCr) via HDMI output.
Just returned to this video after I bought the M6 Mark II. The video helped me a lot when deciding. Thanks!
Clearly, the best Canon M6 MII review on RUclips. Well done Gordon. I wish they would update the M5 for photographers that want a light body and dont really care much for video. Focus Stacking, and built in Expanded HDR options would be welcomed. Unfortunately I see canon moving towards supporting the RF lens and R body more than the EOS-M system. Thanks for a great review.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
Yes. I still can’t believe that Canon is calling the M6m2 their flagship M system camera going forward. I can’t see them abandoning the M5 form factor. I’m really hoping that we’ll see a new M5 six months from now with IBIS and a higher res viewfinder. However, the cynic in me thinks Canon won’t choose an M system camera as the first body to showcase their new IBIS technology especially with a R successor in the works but I can only keep hoping . . .
@@doogieham it's hard to predict where Canon will go with this, but they are very invested in full-frame mirrorless and the RP isn't that much more than a high-end APSC model would be.
Recently bought the M6ii...very happy with my the Sigma 16mm 1.4 lens on this body. But I must say, your skills on breaking down cameras on RUclips is absolutely Masterclass...Bravo!
Thanks! Check out my review of the three Sigma lenses for EF-M!
This is a great review. I just wish Canon would release a M5 mark ii. It seems a shame that currently we have to decide between the better screen design and integrated viewfinder of the M50, and the better shooting controls, sensors, and video options of the M6 mark ii. Why not put it all in one package and release it at the same time at a higher price? Canon should give us the option to have the best of both worlds!
I bought the M6mkii and alternate between it and my 7Dmkii with the canon 100-400mkii. I love the controls, and speed of the M6, but the lag of the EVF versus the optical causes me to miss shots. The M6 mkii is an awesome camera in a small package otherwise.
I was initially going for the 90D, but the silent shutter, and the ability through a speedbooster to have two photographic opportunities with the same lens, made me determined for the M6 mark2. I previous had the M6 mark1, but sold it because of very noisy shutter and slow handling. This new model shows a new direction
I wonder if any other review could top your review of this camera. Like always the most comprehensive reviews ever. I might buy you a coffee on here and if I get to meet you. Keep up the great work Gordon!
Thankyou! I try my hardest to cover everything I can think of and just hope it's useful and interesting for other people too!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for actually talking about image quality!
I love the amount of detail you went into here. Great review! The lack of evf is a pain, but that plus dropping the NFC connectivity are a deal breaker for me!
Thanks!
Another fine review, Gordon, thanks! My feeling is that Canon's intended market all along for the EOS M has been casual photographers and vloggers who rarely exchange the kit lens for anything else; the Rebel series of mirrorless, if you will. When there have been more bodies (10, by my count) than lenses (8) since the original EOS M -- and most of those lenses are variable aperture zooms (5) rather than primes (3) -- along with the fact that they seem to be all-in for making the EOS R series a competent system for high-end amateurs and professionals, one can't help but think Canon is once again thoroughly ensuring it's products do not overlap on features with one another.
Yes. I still can’t believe that Canon is calling the M6m2 their flagship M system camera going forward. I can’t see them abandoning the M5 form factor. I’m really hoping that we’ll see a new M5 six months from now with IBIS and a higher res viewfinder. However, the cynic in me thinks Canon won’t choose an M system camera as the first body to showcase their new IBIS technology especially with a R successor in the works but I can only keep hoping . . .
Good review as ever Gordon. I have the original M6 and welcome the improvements in the MkII however I will probably hold out until they produce an upgraded M50 because I find I use the clip on viewfinder rather a lot. On the question of more lenses of which I have 4 from the current catalogue, yes Canon should because whilst I have the adapter so that I can mount any of my EF lenses, the weight and size of those lenses rather defeats the whole point of a small ICL body for travel and casual use. But that said and with Canon likely focused (no pun intended) on expanding their R range of lenses, I think it will be a long time before we see anything from them on M lenses. The thing that has always fascinated me is the popularity of the M range particularly in Japan so it makes some sense for third parties like Sigma to take up the slack and produce native M series lenses at likely, premium prices because they might be shooting at an open goal here in terms of sales with no competition from Canon.
@John Haynes I’m waiting for M5 mk ii...seems like it missed its turn
I think canon m5 mark ii is already released with a new model name called Eos RP...so Canon is using M6 Mark ii as the flagship model in M series... It's also good to use Canon EF-M lenses for both esthetics and portability. If you really pursue very high quality images with mirrorless cameras, Canon R family will be your choice.
I certainly appreciate your straightforward reviews without clickbait headlines like some other reviewers. Well done!
Thanks for the review. When you compared Canon vs Sony at 20:37 I noticed that Sony has much more pronounced sharpening artifacts (brighter lines around black objects), so an apparent increase in sharpness may be due to software sharpening.
That's right.
Impressive work. You put a huge amount of information in there!
Thanks, these things take ages to put together!
Top quality review as expected from one of the best reviewers. Thanks very much Gordon, have bought the 90d, like it but early days yet.
Thanks Andrew, my 90D review should follow in about a week...
7:24 focus rapidly hunts when you see "EOS" letter. I suspect this shot is by Fuji. I used X-T20 and I suffer focus hunt even at a very static B roll shot.
I filmed with a Sony A6400 -didn't I put that at the start of the video?
Excellent unbiased, professional review. Great information
Thanks!
@@cameralabs M6 is the king
This burst mode 14:20
Hi there Gordon, thank you for such a comprehensive review! In your dealings with Canon did they ever clearly state whether this camera replaces both the M6 AND M5 line of cameras? In other words, do you think we will ever see an M5 mark II? Thank you.
Hmm, good question, but sadly they rarely if ever answer questions like that. I suspect with the RP not too far above that the M6 II will be the top APSC model. I hope we'll see an M50 update though.
@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon for the quick reply, much appreciated.
Either would be very good. Using Sony for some time and Canon has better Ergonomics. But watch reviews and only you can choose. Its your money. I love Sony and lens selection is great, and does everything you can ask. But for some people its art/colors vs glass like sharpness. It's what your eyes enjoy. Amongst friends and family with new apple and samsung phones, they are blown away by quality of images from 16mp NexF3. So its what you personally enjoy.
@@cameralabs so M5 mark II is not coming ?
@@1677dj different people will tell you different things. I'm guessing not, but they may end up doing it.
About the charger: It has to support the PD Spec.
So when buying a charger just look for PD and you're good to go!
(PD is a technique where charger and device basically communicate what charging rates the device can handle. This prevents the 100w (or whatever wattage your macbook charger has) charger to blow up your cam's battery)
Once again, another outstanding camera review by you Gordon. You are the “Gold Standard” by which all the other reviewers should try to embrace and attain… 😊
Thanks! I wish I had the views of the bigger channels, it's hard to justify doing this amount of detail when the views are low.
Hey amazing video!!
I currently have the 200d and wonder if I would regret the megapixels of the eos 6m mark ii with my current lenses:
1. Canon 10 18mm EFS
2. Sigma 30mm art 1.4 efs mount
3. Canon macro 60mm EFS
Do you think any of this lenses would not be able to cope with the higher megapixels?
Regarding the Canon 6m mark ii would I be able to use it with off camera external flashes like yongnuo yn 560 iii with the yongnuo yn 560 tx controller on the hot shoe? Just manual flash no TTL option.
Also how is the 1080p 120 fps video quality?
I would be so hyped for a Canon eos m aps c line but with 120 fps af and IBIS. Will it ever happen you think in the aps c line?
Thanks in advance
I think your lenses would be fine on the M6 II. I'm not sure how many new EOS M products we can expect from Canon as they seem very focused on EOS R right now, but who knows?
Bought the M6 Mk2 about 2 weeks ago and absolutely love it. Beats my Lumix GX9 in many areas. The body is cheaper too. Anyway, I am keeping both system.
are you still enjoying the m6 mii ? I'm coming from m43 world too looking into this camera
@@sdhute Yes but I could not use it much as a result of travel restrictions going places. It is still the best value mirrorless camera for taking with you when walking around. The GX9 is good but its sensor is smaller with less resolution. I have both.
man i have been binging your videos and they are very well made with plenty of information regarding every question i had! you rock sir
Thanks! Glad you found me!
Another fantastic review, thanks Gordon! One suggestion: I realize it's probably more of a pain for you, but it would be nice to have a time stamp list where we can jump to different parts of the review, as I'm sure some of us are more interested in certain things than others, and it's a bit fiddly to find the portion one might be interested in. Either way, still a great review! Cheers
Thanks Zach, and I've already done it for you - it's in the pinned comment! Should I also put it anywhere else?
@@cameralabs Hmm... I'm not seeing a pinned comment. Probably an issue on my end and not yours. Not sure. And I've seen it done in the description up top underneath the channel name, but also in a pinned comment. I suppose it doesn't matter where it is. Much appreciated either way, and thanks!
@@dirragon1 Hmmm, it's definitely in the pinned comment, but I've also just added it to the description,.
@@cameralabs No idea why I wouldn't be seeing the pinned comment. Really strange. Oh well. Appreciate the add to the description though, my apologies for being a pain. I'll try to figure out the pinned comment issue. =\
@@dirragon1 no problem, hope you find it somewhere!
Hi Gordon, I'm watching your videos and this video is one of the main factors helped me decide to buy this camera I had it for 3 weeks now and really great! Love the stabilization and colors! I also made an unboxing of this camera the timw I bought this and oh by the way 24p is now available!
Hi Gordon! Awesome review as always! I always view your videos because they are very detailed and informative. BTW, can you do a side by side comparison of the M6 2 vs Sony a6400 for portraits and color performance? Sony claims to have a comparable color science to canon with the a6400 but when I saw the video that you take from the beach with both cameras at 19:46 sony's color is horrible and too flat in my opinion. I don't color grade that much as I shoot family photos and videos only and Jpeg is my main selection. I've only seen landscape comparison in this video and I hope you will add it in your future comparisons. Thank you!
I still think Canon's colours look better. While the conditions vary, you can compare the sample images I've taken with each camera as I try and take lots that are of the same subjects for comparison. You can find these in my reviews at cameralabs.com
@@cameralabs Went to your site and I was stunned by the image quality of canon m6 mark 2 compared to the a6400. Colors were really great. Ill actually buy it if it only has unlimited recording option. But nonetheless its a great camera for hobbyist and casual photographers. Great review sir!!
@@sanghuloom6943 thanks!
Fantastic review Gordon. Spot on. I haven't been able to put the camera down since I got it. 32mm is an absolute must. Owning a 5d3. I wanted something smaller so size was the primary reason for the m6 II and its exactly what I needed.
Great stuff, glad you enjoyed it - and also have the 32!
The best review (and comparison with M50) I have seen so far - brilliant!
High quality review, very well done.
Thanks!
The external power charger must be PD certified to work. I bought the Morphie PD powerstation to charge my G5XII.
Does it definitely work?
@@cameralabs Yes great for charging on the go.
@@DerrenHodson thanks, good tip.
Compact cameras are different as they use a 3.7 V battery. EOS M series uses 7.4 V.
My M50 does everything this does, and is 24.2, but since I am not into 4K. I'll stick with what I have
Outstanding review and overview! You did a lot of work to put this all together. Hat's Off! I just bought the M6 Mark ii as a second tripod camera for wedding Videography and I use the 90D on my Gimbal or Monopod as my primary Wedding Video camera.
I'm wondering if this is a worthy upgrade for my canon m50 it seems that the m6 mark 2 does not have a crop factor like the m50 would you recommend upgrading to this from the m50? or should I keep the m50 for a lil longer?
You haven't said why you want to upgrade. If it's to avoid the 4k crop, then yes, the M6 II can film without a crop AND with dual pixel AF, but you'll already know that from watching the review.
I am new to this world of photography. I am deciding between this Canon EOS MK6 II or the Sony A6400 or 6100. I mostly want to use it for taking pictures of animals and taking pics when I am out on the city and a little bit of people. I am not too worried about filming. I am leaning a bit more towards the Canon, but a lot of people are recommending the Sony. Or is there even another camera I should be looking at?
Hey, Gordon. I’ve watched both this and your a6400 review. I’m trying to decide if I should return my M6 II and get the a6400 instead due to the 4K overheating issues. Is rolling shutter on the a6400 a noticeable hinderance when vlogging? How would u compare the picture quality of 1080p 120fps between the two cameras? These are my two biggest concerns.
The A6400 definitely has sensitive rolling shutter, but I think the M6 II did too. I find the image quality on the Sony to be excellent - I user it to film all my reviews - but I rarely shoot slomo outside of my tests.
@@cameralabs thanks for the quick reply and comprehensive reviews! Do u own both of these cameras? If so, is there any way u could do a slow motion test using both of them at the same time?
@@playdoob I only own the Sony
Hi Gordon, some new excellent in deep review, worth the time.
A sum up just for me : 4K video IQ is somewhat strange, contrasted, eroded & resolves far less than the Sony. Would never buy because of that. @19:47. Like a mix bag techs for saving processing power (Canon tries to hide, but) that ur eye detects at first glance & the clever chart test confirms.
Vivian Valdi the upshot is less rolling shutter. Sony reads out and downsamples all pixels resulting in superior sharpness but major rolling shutter. Image sharpness is not the only aspect to video imagery. Sony’s Rolling shutter can render footage useless really fast...
I'd much rather have a useful, slightly washed clip than a useless, shutter-rolling heaven, slight sharper one. I don't want the clip to look like my camera is on acid while taking footage.
I would really like a low light video demonstration, especially comparing it to a Canon M50.
I personally been looking for a comparison between those two sensors a lot, better with also x-trans compared. I'm looking for better low light
Thank you for the direct comparison of the images on the m50 vs the m6 mark ii, you're right - the difference wasn't nearly as drastic as I thought it would've been!
Gordon it would be great to see a follow up video on which EF-S lenses can "keep up" with the 32mm f1.4. There's a ton of cheap glass out there; but which can resolve 32.5MP?
A lot is made of the EVF but I am finding not having one not a problem.
Bright daylight yesterday and no issue just using the screen.
Very good review, thanks for taking the time to review this new body properly.
I use the original M6 regularly when I don't want to carry the 5D or RP. It's a decent camera and I've captured some lovely shots with it. This upgraded version has me tempted.
Thanks!
it is review by pros like you (with the reasoning and evidence) that I depend on when buying cameras and your conclusion with a recommendation for this camera convinced me to purchase the M6 mkII. thank you.
I briefly contemplated buying this camera. The OEV attachment ensured I didn't. It's small and easy to lose. Maybe I will fork out the money for the 90d as there seem to be some good improvements over the 70d and the 77d I am currently using, but it's touch and go. If only the viewfinder on the 77d were a bit bigger with 100% coverage instead of the 95% it offers. 4k video is not a deal breaker for me.
Good honest review. Thank you for showing a few different lenses. Seems like a good compact camera. But seems like Canon neglected the mirrorless range and lenses.
@Gordon Laing ... I not interested in the video abilities of any camera, as I'm only interested the stills abilities.
I have a large reange of EF and EFs lenses, and only M lenses.
I'm cosidering the M50, but the M6 II (s/hand) is a possibility.... What would you choose for general / sports / lanscape ?
I would prefer a viewfinder (I currently use an M10) as on my 5d mk1.
I think I’m in love with this camera, due to your review ! I have a M3 and then M6, when I realized I wanted to take pictures of flying birds (I use a adapted Nano USM 70-300).
I also was missing a silent shutter in both cameras... but did you mention there is no burst possibility with it ?
And can you tell me if it’s possible to change the exposure compensation with the function dial, by changing button layout ?
Thanks Pieter, you'll have to check with Canon though as my loan sample was returned several weeks ago and I've tested several other very different cameras since then.
The M6 mk2 marks the point of no return from dSLR...
When an entry level Mirrorless camera has more features and goes over the curve of the Enthusiast dSLR like the 90D, especially coming from Canon, that can only mean one thing..
This doesnt mean that dSLR are dead, but they are retiring from the consumer market, and soon the profesional one...
I agree completely. I was quite surprised when the M6 II out-performed the 90D for the birds in flight.
But there are also features on the 90D that are missing in the M6 ii for example cropped 4k. The 90d also doesn't overheat and is weather sealed. DSLRs are a long way from retirement.
@@martinhommel9967 Dont get me wrong. I shoot dSLR right now. I have a 5DVI and 5DsR, also for casual shooting i also own an EOS M6 and M5.
Im not against dSLR. But, the undenying thing its that mirror technology has already reach its peak development, and mirrorless tech has just started.
The main features of the Mirrorless tech its based on silicon and software, it will keep improving overtime more easily and frequently, with more ease of use and options. Mirrortech will not. For example, the best shooting features of the 90D are based on mirrorless tech and way of shooting.
I had the oportunity to try out the EOS R, EOS Rp and Sony A73, and I was impress by those cameras, far better shooting experience than my 5D4, it felt like my high end dSLR was already obsolete. And that was last year (2018)...! Mirror cameras will become what Medium format cameras are right now... a minority and a quite specialiced one.
@@MarkoNara maybe they will, maybe they won't. It seems to me that there is quite a way to go before that could happen. In my opinion it's premature to pronounce DSLRs dead as their ergonomics seem so much more developed. I go window shopping quite often and apart from the Canon R and Lumix bodies there's nothing that could entice me to ditch my DSLRs for mirrorless just yet.
I agree with the statements here and have same thoughts. I think DSLR tech has plateau'd while Mirrorless has become really stable, and is now easily encroaching capabilities that we used to think is untouchable territory for Mirrorless systems 3-4 years ago. The release of M6 Mk II and 90D is a great window to Canon's thinking by putting up pretty much same cameras but in 2 form factors, let the people decide. If we see more lens support for the M6 Mk II in the future, then it could be because it is outselling its DSLR fraternal twin. Canon making EF/EFS adaptable supports this logic too in my eye. Similar with cellphone tech, we started big, then the battle for how small we can get, and now who can go biggest with lesser compromise again. So I'd advice not to let go your DSLRs yet, society might ba back to it again... Hahah
Thank you, Gordon, for another excellent and open minded review of the m6-ii and comparing it to the 90d and xt30 and a6400!
I am happy for the Canon fans for this. I am sure those who want to stay with canon will find these improvements significant.
In my case, this model and any other canon has more limiitations than I want to. In fact, I would just feel frustrated if I had to compromise so much with Canon. I don't have that frustatration now I have switched to Sony. It's not a perfect camera, but most of the things I need Sony ticks it for me. There is always room for improvement in future releases, but at least, I know I get a better all around camera. After my a7-3, I am now aiming for the a6400 + the 70-350. That would complete my affordable sport/action camera and lens.
But then again, for Canon users, the m6-ii is a big and worthy update.
Thanks for the thoughtful comments.
hello according to your experience which will have better image quality in the video? Canon M6 Markt II OR SONY RX100 M7? THANK YOU
I‘m waiting for a m version of a 15-85mm. I use the EFS but it would be nice if it was smaller.
Or a 15-70 in 2.8
Gordon, thank you so much for your professional approach! Its back to the drawing board for me then. M6Mii is a pass for me.
Thank you. This video has answered so many questions I had about m6 mk2.
Gordon, what a great job you did in this video review. Cheers!
Thanks!
80D and m100 owner here - interesting thought for a mix of photos and videos for someone that travels a lot, and likes to pack very light: Do I supplement these two cameras with the new G7x Mark iii (for ultralight weight travel better than iPhone XR), or get the RP to displace the 80 for photos and youtube channel for the kids and keep the 80D as a backup? I have 3 L lenses: 17-40 F4, 24-70 F4L IS, and 70-200 F2.8L II IS. Would love your thought here Gordon (considering the RP after this review and current $1000 US for the RP right now)...
Great review. I think this is the camera that brings me back to APS-C from Micro Four Thirds. M43 is actually a great system. Sexy, even. But it takes an experienced photographer to get the best results. I'm a novice who needs the larger tried-and-true sensor size to get the results I want with a little less work and worry.
My Samsung NX1 2014 camera had 120p FullHD video mode with sound and autofocus. And canon's almost 2020 doesnt :)
I bought both the M6 Mk II and the Fuji X100V and shot them for several weeks trying to decide on which one. I also bought the Canon EF-M 22mm F/2 pancake lens to use head-to-head vs. the X100V's 23mm F/2. Even though the M6 has 32Mpx and the X100V 26Mpx (I also shot the same comparison photos with Canon's kit 15-45mm lens)... the Fuji was sharper!
I guess I should have purchased the Canon 32mm F/1.4 (as you suggest in your review of the M6 II) for possibly a better comparison against the mighty Fuji X-Trans 4 sensor? I returned all of it... because the Fuji's battery started malfunctioning after just a few re-charges...and the Canon didn't measure up against the Fuji. But maybe, I sold the Canon short without shooting it mounted with the 32mm /1.4?
Should I re-buy the M6 II again to give it a second chance --Are any of the other Canon EF-M lenses 'equal to' the 32mm for sharpness? Particularly any of a longer focal length to go with the 32mm?
So helpful - I film a lot of dancers who sometimes move slow, sometimes fast. Need a video camera with fast autofocus, preferably 4K, and much is handheld (sometimes with gimbal). Want to upgrade from my Canon 70D which has been great and have canon lenses also - With a budget of around £1000, looking at sony a6400 or sticking to the upgrade to the canon - the 90D. For run and gun shooting, is there a better camera? Gearing towards sony but will dance moves be skewered due to rolling shutter on this? Any advice would be welcome. Many thanks
For good autofocus, it's really between Sony and Canon, and you're right to be wary of Sony if there's fast movement, as there could be some skewing. The Canon is less susceptible to rolling shutter, but its 4k is not as sharp as the Sony. There's no perfect camera!
For my M6II, I own the 22mm F2.0 and the 15-45mm and that's likely all i'll ever buy. Maybe if i was an old man and really wanted to pair down my system, but for now, I want my EF glass. Particularly; 35mm F14. II L.
Could you (or anyone here) help me out with this question regarding the Canon M6 II? Google searched the hell out of it, no luck.
Is there a way to shoot an auto exposure bracketing row (AEB) with a (manual Yongnuo) flash trigger on the hot shoe? Frustratingly the 6D and 6D II can do that (as long as there is no TTL flash connected, and even if - you could tape off the 4 other pins), but the M6 I does not allow that (looking at the M6 II hot shoe it seems to be similar).
The reason is that there is a little pin under the metal flap inside the hot shoe that turns off the AEB any time anything is depressing that flap. It is not possible to have anything on the hot shoe (even a piece of plastic) and do AEB. Surprisingly I have not found anything online regarding this.
Does anyone know if there is a workaround? Would like to buy the M6 II but this issue is a deal breaker for me. Thought about snipping off the metal flap in the hot shoe, but I'm not sure if the M6 would still trigger the flash without the pin being pressed down.
I didn't know about the pin turning off AEB. Sorry I'm not a flash expert.
I would really like to see your comparison of the M6 II vs the RP.
I still thinking either M50 mkii or the M6 mkii. still using my over 10 years old Powershot G12. so am thinking of upgrading. purpose just for taking still photos & videos of my kids growing up and for travelling. anyhow this is a good review. thumbs up!!!
Thanks for the detailed overview! Helped a lot choosing a camera.
Great, very informative and "to the point" review. Watched almost all reviews about m6 mark ii on YT and this video is most professional in depth. Im still thinking to upgrade my m50 to m6m2 for 1080p120, uncropped 4k and higher mpix sensor for big prints.
I'm still hoping for an M50 II with this sensor and maybe IBIS. I can dream!
Hi. When comparing the M6 MkII with the Canon 90D what do you recommend? My concern is low budget , higher bitrate video than my 70D and some 1080P slow motion. I don’t care about whether shield capabilities. Thank you in advance
the choice is whether you prefer DSLR or mirrorless
Gordon Laing I really don’t care much about the type of camera I want. I just want the best quality video performance for the lowest price. Thanks in advance
@@850Tech the 90D ironically is a bit more flexible with the fully articulated screen and crop option, but I personally prefer the size and weight of the M6 II.
Should I get This or the 6400 for Video?
TECHSOME rolling shutter on all a6xxx cameras is horrific I would stay away unless using on a tripod 24-7
I believe that the maligned 15-45mm kit is actually very close to the 32 mm prime if you use it around its sweet spot of 30mm f8
Thanks for the review. Without a built in viewfinder and flip screen, it's a deal breaker for me beyond the shadow of a doubt . . AND . . the very reason I sold my M6 and purchased the M50, the latter of which is amazing!
I love the M50 and wish they'd make an M50 II with the M6 II innards!
@@cameralabs OH YEAH !!! I'd buy two. :-)
Great review as usual waiting for the 90D review
Thanks! The 90D review should be in about a week.
Thanks Gordon for showing the focus bracketing feature in action.
You're welcome!
Thanks for sharing the bit about not being to get the Rode Wireless Go on top! Very useful, and unfortunately a dealbreaker. I'll stick with my M50 😄
Im sure a cage would solve that.
9:38 Wow...now that you mention it. Yeah...more lenses please.
Finally some innovative features from Canon out there, overall a very nice camera, what not so nice is price tag at the moment, hopefully cost goes down in the near future.
It clearly shows you spent a lot of time to give us the best M6 review out there!
About the camera, I have mixed feelings. I appreciate Canon fitting it with interesting features but in this day and age for many people the lack of built-in evf is a further temptation to just use a smartphone. And I find the external evf to be too much of a hassle to carry, fit, remove when screen is up, fit again for high speed shooting, remove again when fitting a mic, fit it again in bright condition,...
Good move from Canon overall
Thanks Andrea, yes it took a lot of time to put together! And yes, i too find the slide-on EVF inconvenient.
I agree !
Thorough and objective review as we are used to from you Gordon - Good job. It seems like a very good effort by Canon, though I'm still not convinced how much future there is for Canons M system.
One minor note, Gordon: Even though the shallow depth of field you use for the product shots gives super sweet and smooth bokeh, I must admit that I think the DoF might be a little too shallow - I find it slightly distracting that parts of the camera is out of focus. What are your thoughts behind using such shallow DoF?
Thanks Peter, I personally enjoy the shallow DOF effect when it works, but I agree it can sometimes get in the way of presenting the information here, so I may make some adjustments!
@@cameralabs Thank you for replying Gordon. That's another thing about your channel that is great - we as followers can actually get to interact with you. Its nice to know that you will give this a thought or two.
I want to point out that this was just a minor thing - on the whole I think you are doing a tremendous job and I really enjoy your videos. You are one of only very few channels that I have on "notification bell" - so keep up the good work...
@@peterbeyerholm thanks for your support and following!
Gordon, question related to lens data. DPP4 has option to load canon lens data which can then be used to correct aspects like distortion. Is there a way to load 3rd party lens data in DPP?
Please let me know.
DC-1 DVF also works and tilts up, but with less pixels and slower refresh. still seems great.
Great review 👍 ps. I’m thinking about buying this camera as I wish to have something smaller for concert photography, can I ask for your opinion? Do you think it’s a good choice with 18-150 mm lens, or maybe you will point me in different direction? Thx for your time
Great review.No mention of the 22mm though.Great lens,especially for the size.
The 22mm is a nice lens
Your reviews are always great
Thanks!
The go-to person for a decent review. And those "test shots"... Delightful.
Thanks!
I'm looking for a good lightweight travel/hiking camera for landscape and wildlife and have already a number of full-frame Canon lenses. Problem is, there are little good lenses for EF-M, so yes I can mount the M6 II on a Sigma 150-600 for birding when traveling, but that misses the point of a travel camera; The Sigma already weighs 2kg. Now looking for a Panasonic G9 with the Leica 100-400... A lot more money, but than I have a good travel camera and with the Leica 12-60 a good set (the complete set will weigh only about 2 kg). Canon cripples the M line by supplying only consumer lenses and (almost) no prosumer lenses and stops at focal length of 200mm. So you need the adapter to get more than 200mm and than get stuck with much bigger lenses and weight. And no in-body stabilization for stills...
It would be great if Canon could make a compact and light 100-400mm for the EF-M mount. Go for f 6.7 at the 400mm end and all plastic build to keep the weight (and price) down (like the Olympus 75-300mm another sharp compact and cheap zoom). Also not cripple it with STM instead use nanoUSM.
@@The.Urban.Birder Canon is not going to do that because it would eat in to the lower DSLR range. The same strategy why they ditched 24p on the M6 II. When a camera can do 25p or 30p than of course the software can do 24p... Nope: buy a more expensive camera for that option. And there is a pattern: The EF-S range is also limited. Canon wants you to move as prosumer to the EF full frame line.
@Reuel T After a lot of fuss in the media; remember my comment was 2 month ago and a lot of people were surprised that canon started to listen and do something about it. Good for Canon, I have moved to a great MFT camera.
The M6 is a consumer camera so I believe that's why it will provide only consumer lenses. No way they will make a small lightweight compact 2.8 lens.
There must be an M50 mkII launch soon? Maybe with DPAF in 4K with a less harsh crop? And yes, I would like to see more native EOS M lenses. I had the original EOS M with the 22mm f/2 and that was a cracking lens, more please Canon, I think you have more M bodies than lenses! p.s. thanks for the great in depth review.
What's better of the three for race car at the race track photography?
Do you think Canon will take the Sony and Nikon approach about produce APSC cameras with the RF mount? Maybe canon let the M mount die from now.
It's really hard to say. There's rumours of APSC RF bodies, but no evidence yet. I'd like to see them, or for the M mount to continue. I feel maybe it's like Sony who have APSC but mostly concentrate on full-frame. So ultimately I'd like it, but I won't expect it.
Hot shoe isn’t an issue, just buy an offset flash mount that attaches to the tripod mount, cheap as chips.
Great review! My question is when would you enable or disable the continous auto focus function? It seems to work super except when I don't want it to. What is its purpose?
Great review. Regarding charging it took me a while to understand that merely technology has changed. This one requires a PD (Power Direct) also due to the voltage of the battery that is > 5V regular USB output. I now have a PD powerbank, a PD car charger (inexpensive) and a PD regular wall charger. All relatively inexpensive. I can also charge my EOS R and my small G5X Mk II with those. So, I think using upcoming PD technology is a good thing. However, they should be more clear that this technology is used and compatible. I even asked Canon support in Germany and they were more then reluctant to give this information.
Thanks for the info - I've heard this from a few people now, so I'll check it out!
Great review, Gordon. Cheers!
You're welcome!
Great video Gordon , easily one of the most in depth review on youtube for the Canon EOS M6 II Thank you
Thanks, I pour my heart and soul into these!
Well, I'm a year late. But my question seems to span eons. No one talks about exposure control in video mode. Without it, no sale. I have no idea if there is any after this video, or if there is, what the range of override is, or whether it can be completely locked down.
You can put it in manual exposure for video. I'd suggest downloading the manual for the camera to see all the options.
Wonderful review and the example shots were incredibly helpful thank you.
You're very welcome!
As always, best review by far. Thanks again for all you work and efforts. :) . Coming from Sony NEX/a6*** since 2012, the Canon colors and final images are much more appealing. Like what you see in magazines, Canon seem to aim for that printed look. Sony seem more digital. The video might be sharper in Sony, but Canons has better colors.
I also prefer the Canon colours
Canon's color science I dare say is one of the best, if not the best in this industry. :) And I dont even own a Canon, at least not yet.
A great review. Good that you mention the lack of built-in EVF on the M6 II. To me, having to clip on that hideous-looking EVF on top of the camera takes it out of the running as an otherwise great camera for street photography.