Thank you, Ben, for sharing your important reasons why you upgraded from M50 to M6 M2! Why I am writing so late (this is recorded about four years ago by you) is that I recently purchased this M6 Mark II camera (used one) ! It was really helpful for, for example I didn´t know about the so called 180° rule and your advice for making smooth time-lapse videos was very precious to me! So all in all, a big THANK to you for this video! Much appreciated! Wishing you all the best!
@@deannapak go to the camera website and look for software updates... download and store the file on PC... and connect the camera and transfer it and install it on your camera...
Appreciate the kind words! Be sure to check out Gordon Laing's review if you haven't already. Thought he did a really great job ruclips.net/video/72bWNI6n9tk/видео.html.
how do you not have more subs !!! amazing video I'm trying to upgrade my camera for RUclips I had the canon g7x Mark 2. Then I purchased the sony ax-53 camcorder That thing was amazing, but it couldn't focus in low light so I sold that now im going back and fourth between the sony z-v1 and the canon m50 or canon m6 mark 2. Thank you for the video subbed!!!
Upgrades are good if thé improvements are needed. To upgrade for features that you don't use obviously doesn't make sense. Some people upgrade just to have a "better" camera and end up regretting it because they realize, in this case, that they could have bought a few lenses or one insane lens instead. Think about the lens that you could buy for 1500 bucks and slap onto your m50 Instead of upgrading to an m6 and getting nothing that you really missed instead. I think that my m50 is so good and takes such great video and decent photos that all I dream of is lenses, like one of those amazing téléphotos for wildlife photography. Oh boy, oh boy. Or you could get another m50. There are some very cool things you can do with 2 cameras. Compared to spending for an m6, you would still have enough left over for a $600 lens. I will upgrade cameras only when I really need to and have the cash to spend easily.
It flips up so you can still see it , has better 4K Focus and no 4K crop. If you aren’t doing video and you are only worried about photos there are better options than any of the M series cameras.
Rexx Reviews what would you say was better in a similar price range? I have an M50 which is a great camera but curious as to what would be better without paying a silly price as I am not interested in video
AMP as well as if you would like to actually use an EVF... to me this is pointless as a still Photographer. Pretty sure there are better options for video only though...
Your video here was so good, everyone else talked about all the same commonly known stuff and you were almost 11 minutes into this before you were not bringing up new things !!!
1. the M50 can also switch between auto focus and manual with a button on the back dial. 2. the M50 can shoot electronic (silent)shutter; they just hid it in the SCN dial. I like the idea of the little bounce flash on the M6 II, but I tend not to use flash with my M50 anyway. The only reason I would upgrade is for the 120fps at 1080. I've shot a few music videos with my M50, and have gotten away with 120fps at 720p... LOOOL
My mistake for not realizing the M50 has the silent shutter mode in the SCN dial. I assumed it wasn't there since I never saw it in the menu. Should have done a google search before posting just to be sure. That said, since it limits the camera to auto exposure I'm not sure I would have used it much even if I had known it was there.
@@benbjurstrom Yes. Not sure why Canon hid the feature, and like you say it is pretty limited. Having said that, it has come in handy from time-to-time when shooting streetphotography on the bus or train, and even sometimes at events. I take it the silent shutter on the M6 II more advanced?…
I recently bought the M50 (was initially going for the A6500 but my budget didn't quite get there and almost bought the Lumix Gx85 but there were shipping issues and I was refunded) so far I think it's a happy accident cause I like it! But then again I only tried it at home during quarantine lol; I still have to experiment outdoors with it.
Hi Ben, great review. This is exactly at the right time for me. I doubted between the M50 and the M6II but now my doubt is over, I will definitely go for the M6II. Thank you man 👍
M6 mk2 seems a really good camera, but for me, there's no real reason to change my M50 to this. Software features (timelapse, electronic shutter) can be upgradeable in M50 too. Missing buttons, dials of course not replaceable, but I don't need them. Because a few amounts of changing settings I use daily. The flash in both camears has a limited usability,ifI you want to use flash for various cases, you might to buy a better flash. Finally, EVF is priceless for me. If I'd need it to M6 mk2, I'll have to buy it separately.
I might be making this move too...The M50 is my first camera that got me into this game. Love shooting with it so much but as I wanted to do more things, so many times i had the "aw man" moment realizing the feature i wanted is not available on my M50. The M6 MKII has all the stuff I wanted but missing from the M50. However the lack of flippy screen is kind of big deal for me. I use it a lot when doing low or high portrait orientation shots. Also it should be useful when mounted on a gimal.
@@benbjurstrom Interface Cable IFC-600PCU Conveniently charge the battery in your compatible Canon camera - including the EOS M50, PowerShot G5 X and PowerShot G9 X - by connecting it to a computer using the IFC-600PCU cable.
Loved my M50. The single dial drove me a little nuts, and the no DPAF 4k sucked. Got rid of it and got A6400 which has been great. That M60 M2 is really nice.
@@cammac66 You think its overrated really? Its a good value and takes great pictures and the video is quite good. The handling and menus are subpar of course though.
Liquid Valium hey man I got question, I’ve been thinking of doing the same, selling my m50 for the 6400, what worries me the most though is the small batteries and some people say shaky footage for stuff like vlogs. What’s your opinion?
@@mirrorlessmemory The video quality is far superior on the A6400. As the 4K out of it is crazy sharp. The picture profiles are great as well. You must use an OSS lens. If you do it will be reasonably good. If you want silky smooth stable though you have to use a gimbal. Frankly, the stabilization on an A6400 with an OSS lens, is very similar to the M50 with a Canon IS lens, For your mic add a $15 small rig cold shoe mount, and you can put mic to the side, and flip up the screen. The A6400 really is far superior to the M50 in many ways. That said, the ease of use of the Canon is easier to grasp quickly, and the Canon menus are the best hands down.
I'll be sticking to my M50 for now. I need an EVF and the clip on one adds cost and bulk. And one can't use the EVF and external flash at the same time.
Great review, thanks! I've moved from A6000 to M50 last year (I'm VERY cheap on gear), but the AF performance is not great. Not sure if moving 'up, but back' to 7d m2 makes sense, but with wildlife I mostly use the viewfinder... I would love the quick settings changes with the extra dials in the very same situations though... why does Canon make it so hard with the trade-offs and can't make the body a bit bigger to include a Sony a6* style EVF or a pop-up EVF... not sure if I want the extra bulk of 90D and neither the AF versatility/settings of 7D2, nor the upgraded Dual focus AF (talking about the EVF situation in both cases and acknowledging the difference in AF tech). I hope it makes sense :)
This is admittedly a weird question. Does the M6 let you select to shoot in the same crop as the M50 (I cant remember what it is in millimeters) and still get 4K? I ask because I use the M50 with some lenses that vignette with larger sensors. I’d love it if when you pick from the dimensions you want to shoot on the M6, the M50s crop size would be available too. Thanks for your thoughts!
A6400 is best when on the tripod 100% of the time. Shaky and horrible rolling shutter every time unless on a gimbal. Canon m50 FTW tbh. I returned my a6400 ASAP. Unusable.
Really interesting review and affirms my decision to buy one, not yet received. One odd thing though, all reviews talk about the lack of 24p but page 11 of the Canon Supplemental Information booklet that comes with the User Guide states that it supports 24p. Has 24p been added by a firmware upgrade? Also why is 24p such a big deal especially when you have 25p and 29.97p (according to the printed specification).
Great video. Definitely a great camera now that we have the Sigma Trio and 24p via update. For me though, I’m waiting for M50 MK II hopefully. I love my EVF for photography and flip out screen for blogging. But the biggest factor for me is that the M50 is so much more affordable. I would hope that if a M50 MK II comes out it will maintain the same price point. I would hope they add a 2nd control dial for it, but if not, I’ve been able to live with it as I grew up with the Rebel series. But the M6 MK II is definitely a beast and hopefully will get more 3rd party accessory makes to look into EF-M. I want EF-M to continue on.
i love the tilty twisty screen (which you didn't mention, tho' you did briefly show the m6II's less useful tilty one!) & the evf of my m50. i'll stick with it for now!
I got the m50 for vlogging and I love it. I’m not a fan of the Mark series for that reason. You also didn’t discuss screen sizes and swivel features. I do like the usb type c power charge in camera but that won’t make the sale for me on the mk2.
Very good review, this the only review that dig that much into m6 ii. I found more reason to get this camera. I'm currently using m50, and I'm planning to add a second camera. But I do wish it's have the tilt swivel screen, I always use it.
Yeah.. The digital is in m50 is really suck, unusable, it's warping so weird. I hope that someone can upload the sample of digital is from m6 ii. But judging from this video it look pretty good.
after 1 years i sell my m50, this camera is really good for photo and video vlog, but i realy dont like the grip at least for my hand, and the build quality like plastic, dual pixel autofocus is amazing and image quality in low light amazing too, thank u my m50 for 1 years :}
good video and info. I've got the m50 mkii and I love it for stills and mostly love the video it produces. The big crop at 4k would be an issue except most of my 4k video is wildlife and zoomed way in on distant subjects so the crop hasn't really been as problem for me
Great review! 24p is on its way... I'm about ready to buy, Im torn between the 15-45 vs 18-150 kit lens. (I'll probably have both eventually anyway). BUT that 32mm (f1.4) will be my first get after the kit. I'm glad that you spoke favorable about the electronic/digital stabilization. I have hopes that (hand held) video with the 32mm (no IS) can be acceptable.
Was at the coast in a storm, we have a haystack rock there so I set the mk2 up and ran some footage. Was able to stop up nicely to get the waves, rock detail and grass waving when the weather broke. Lots of fun! Need to get the remote working, thanks for askung - Mark
I was about to buy the M6 Mk II for those times I don't want to lug around my 5D Mk III, so thanks for the reassurance. I have not seen a bad review yet, and DPReview like it as well :-)
Exactly my thoughts that the m6m2 is coming close to higher end full frame canon. But, samsung phones now $700 10+ or $1200 3 lense 20+, ibis stabilized phone can give always with me pics capability. Especially since the canon eos r was such a bad attempt at full frame, and with a new mount. And, surprisingly, watching youtube on my samsung phone now, selectively chosen content, imparts way more real knowledge that my expensive college years
Guess just being older enjoy the shutter sound it is satisfying and let me and the people the picture was taken. But I am a hold over from the film days
Hi Ben, nice comparison review! At 1:50 you were describing how you liked that the M6 Mark II has a manual/auto focus switch. Does the Canon M50 not have the ability to switch from manual to auto and back? How is it done on the M50? Could you please elaborate on this alittle more? Thanks! I am currently deciding between the M50 and the M6 Mark II as my first camera as a beginner.
Looking for a second camera for interviews. Good insight about astro and shooting in 24FPS, or lack thereof... Might get it as a second camera, unless you can recommend another. Pretty lame how Canon limits their cameras- makes me almost want to switch to a sony.
Agreed...I'm torn between Sony and Canon, Fuji is not far away from the corners of my mind either. However, after watching a lot of videos and reading comments, people seemed a little disappointed or frustrated with some of Canon's choices and limitations 😕.
M50's built in EVF makes it $150 cheaper right from the beggining, especially if you still want to use the hot shoe for anything and even more so if you want to bundle discount the EFS lens adaptor from a place like B&H. Imagine spending $300 more to get those two add ons... Does that evf compare to OVF for manual focusing Low F macro? Also can you elaborate on manual focus mode with the M50? Do you really have to use the camera menu, no dedicated button?
I know this video is a year old and maybe you won't see this comment, but I am in the same exact position as you were. Have the Canon M50 and I now upgraded. My question is this: how did you sell your M50? Where should I, in your opinion? And what would be a good price for a used but excellent condition M50? Any advice would be appreciated.
EOS M50 does also have an electronic shutter but it is rather limited on functionality. To me it annoys most that you cannot use the AWB-W setting (you can shoot in raw and develop in camera with AWB-W though). The electronic shutter is in the SCN-setting. That speed setting is nice. EOS M50 on P does not go below 1/60s, nice with the 22 mm but way too fast with IS. EOS M was just the opposite as it went to 1/30. I think they should automatically base that on the lens. I was considered M6 in 2017. I could not make my mind between M6 and M3 and I ended buying G9 X Mark II. When I saw the M50 I wondered the single wheel but IMO touch and use the wheel works nice enough.
I’m gonna upgrade from M-50. I never use EVF. I hate the swivel screen on M-50-HATE IT. I want the screen in line with lens. Plus it feels like one wrong move, it’ll snap off. Plus better specs. Now if Canon will create a full spectrum of lenses (come -on!) And why doesn’t firmware support in camera multi-exposure?????? The 5DMk3 onwards has the best in the business. It would be VERY HELPFUL for creatives to have this capability. Please Canon, we like your cameras, make each release as thorough and complete as possible, you’ll win in the long run (think Fuji).
Christian Lawrence I don’t think it’s really a fair comparison. The M6 II is an APS-C camera and it would be better to compare it to something like the Sony A6400 (or A6600). The RX100 has a tiny 1” sensor. I have an RX100 VII and use it sometimes for some video but not for stills. 1” sensors are tiny compared to APS-C.
@@AdrianChoPhotography yes I agree Adrian. 🙂 the reason I asked was that I own the rx100mk7 but iam trying to convince myself that the m6ii would be a better B cam to go with my eos R which is my primary shooter. The rx100 is awesome, but I find it a bit fiddly for stills. The video is great mind you. The m6 just feels better in my hand and easier to adjust using the dials, also the menu similar to the R. But as you say like comparing apples and pears.🙂🙂 might get the m6 and keep the rx 😉😉😉 just won't tell the wife. Have a good xmas 🙂
Christian Lawrence I’m a Sony full-frame shooter and I can’t stand the RX100 for stills. Every time I look at any photo from it I can’t get past the poor image quality. HOWEVER it is great for video especially as the RX100 VII has video eye AF which makes a huge difference if you are vlogging or recording people’s faces. And yes I agree the RX100 is a bit fiddly because of the size although you get used to it.
@@ChristianLawrence If you so prefer, it is a much bigger camera but sizes are a matter of opinion. I have M50 as my primary and G9 X II as my secondary. For me RX100 would be too big for a secondary camera. Note that EF-M and RF lenses are totally incompatible with each other. Both systems, however, can us EF and EF-S lenses. I would not get a secondary incompatible ILC system. I would focus on the R-series, they will introduce smaller lenses.
Hi, i am looking for a compact one, so confused between m6 mark ¡¡ and m200, because price range is also different and i am an occasional camera user, will use for photography, usually for outings and family gatherings, could you please advise which one would be good from image quality perpective? Is m200 is a hood choice?
Aoi Kemono a new m50 can be bought at $567 right now. $1099 for the m6 II with the same kit lens? $532. Id rather buy a new m50 and another m50 body + 22m EF M.
Aoi Kemono if you meant m6 to m6 II then maybe. But a great point is the EF M line glass not being high quality enough for the new sensor too. Until you adapt to EF / L glass.
I've enjoyed your insights but can you please advise me on the following - for a beginner youtube video maker if you'd choose a camera mainly used for youtube videos (80% time for video, 20% for photos) and considering these prices on ebay UK for NEW M6 Mark ii are about-ish $775 (camera + kit) and for NEW EOS M50 on ebay UK are about-ish $570 (camera + kit), which camera would you finally choose? Assuming it is M6 mark ii, does it rise up to its price tag, is it worth the money difference in terms of its new features? PS, I was also contemplating again for youtube videos an used sony A6400 with stock kit on ebay at the same price as a new M6 mark ii but the price of sony lenses really scary me and not sure if it is worth it? I'm looking forward to making this decision in the following days and your comment would be very much appreciated, in a nutshell I'm torn between the models above and I just want to make a decision that would yield best price/value ratio while providing innovation in terms of camera features. Anyone reading this comment that knows a thing or two about above cameras can also comment it will mean a lot to me. Thank you in advance! Have a good one fellow youtubers and aspiring youtubers. :D
Are you sure that's the M50 mark 2? All of the M50 mark 2's I'm seeing on Amazon and youtube have a flip screen, viewfinder and doesn't have the 2 dials on top and mf, af switches. Did Canon release 2 different versions of the mark 2? The current M50 mark 2's layout are practically identical to the standard M50.
*subbed* much love from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦 I’ve been waiting for this video I came from the SL2! Still deciding between the eos R or RP or the m6 or 90d but the best camera ur right it’s the one you have with you!
I don't color grade and I don't use 4k so I don't think it matters but I do like the idea of the RP and the m6ii they both use the same battery which is awesome 👌
In terms of sharpness and detail which one would you recommend me to buy, iPhone 12/13 Pro Max or Canon M6 Mark II? And my second question would be if Canon M6 Mark II can compete with iPhone 12/13 Pro Max in nnight and low light situations? Thanks in advance for your response.
The Canon M50 doesn’t have clean HDMI out on it. You have to turn off the info and set it into Manual Focus to get a clean signal out for, the HDMI port, or else you get all of the onscreen display info. From what I hear, the M50 Mark II does have clean HDMI out though, just not the original M50.
@@orangefrogphotography9019 It actually even easier with the viewfinder. Just look through the view finder and use your finger do drag the focus point around on the touch screen. You might have to find the settings to do this. It's called "touch-drag autofocus".
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Thank you, Ben, for sharing your important reasons why you upgraded from M50 to M6 M2! Why I am writing so late (this is recorded about four years ago by you) is that I recently purchased this M6 Mark II camera (used one) ! It was really helpful for, for example I didn´t know about the so called 180° rule and your advice for making smooth time-lapse videos was very precious to me! So all in all, a big THANK to you for this video! Much appreciated! Wishing you all the best!
Love the videos from folks who ACTUALLY USE THE CAMERA!
Update: Canon has updated its firmware that adds 24fps for the Canon mark ii
Kudos to Canon for attempting to leave it out, shooting in 24p shouldn't be allowed lol.
How do we obtain this? I just bought the canon m6 mark ii and I didn’t see that option for 24fps
@@deannapak go to the camera website and look for software updates... download and store the file on PC... and connect the camera and transfer it and install it on your camera...
@@bsvlitmus if you buy a new m6 (like today), is it not already installed?
@@squintygreeneyes no
Best review of this camera so far. Well done!
Appreciate the kind words! Be sure to check out Gordon Laing's review if you haven't already. Thought he did a really great job ruclips.net/video/72bWNI6n9tk/видео.html.
Outstanding video, Ben! Thanks for sharing what other reviews missed. I am buying the M6ii!
Omg Love ur watch reviews dude
Had the 90D but ended up returning it for this! I enjoy the features both cameras share but the size and weight comes in so handy for travel
I'm on so many videos about canon m50 and mark ii..Well now I will look for M6
.Thank you
I like the view finder on the M50 Mark II because it lets me create an additional point of contact for stability when taking handheld pictures.
I would love a low light video comparison between the two cameras. That's what my decision to upgrade boils down to.
Where do I find 120p? I go to video mode on the wheel, and then I can set 4k30, FHD60, FHD30, but no FHD120
how do you not have more subs !!! amazing video I'm trying to upgrade my camera for RUclips I had the canon g7x Mark 2. Then I purchased the sony ax-53 camcorder That thing was amazing, but it couldn't focus in low light so I sold that now im going back and fourth between the sony z-v1 and the canon m50 or canon m6 mark 2. Thank you for the video subbed!!!
I heard a f/w version allowed 24 fps on the M6 so that may no longer be an issue. Great review. I'm getting the M6 soon.
You can adjust the focus mode on the m50 with just one click too.
Comparing m50 with a camera that is almost double of its price.. it's like comparing iphone 7 to iphone 11
Agree.
Its not worth the upgrade.
Upgrades are good if thé improvements are needed. To upgrade for features that you don't use obviously doesn't make sense. Some people upgrade just to have a "better" camera and end up regretting it because they realize, in this case, that they could have bought a few lenses or one insane lens instead. Think about the lens that you could buy for 1500 bucks and slap onto your m50 Instead of upgrading to an m6 and getting nothing that you really missed instead. I think that my m50 is so good and takes such great video and decent photos that all I dream of is lenses, like one of those amazing téléphotos for wildlife photography. Oh boy, oh boy. Or you could get another m50. There are some very cool things you can do with 2 cameras. Compared to spending for an m6, you would still have enough left over for a $600 lens. I will upgrade cameras only when I really need to and have the cash to spend easily.
@@perrypelican9476 Im keeping my M50 until i literally outgrow it.
@@perrypelican9476 good for you Perry Pelican sheesh 🙄😁😂
Very insightful idea with pointing the flash up
Nice review.
can you compare the PS2 with a PS5 next.
No fa screen, no evf, 40% more expensive, so m50 for me.
Yeah that's something I can't compromise.
It flips up so you can still see it , has better 4K Focus and no 4K crop. If you aren’t doing video and you are only worried about photos there are better options than any of the M series cameras.
Rexx Reviews what would you say was better in a similar price range? I have an M50 which is a great camera but curious as to what would be better without paying a silly price as I am not interested in video
@@RexxReviews If you have a microphone, it will be in the way of the flip up camera.
AMP as well as if you would like to actually use an EVF... to me this is pointless as a still Photographer. Pretty sure there are better options for video only though...
My m50 and a 50mm have given me some of the best pictures I’ve ever taken.
Your video here was so good, everyone else talked about all the same commonly known stuff and you were almost 11 minutes into this before you were not bringing up new things !!!
1. the M50 can also switch between auto focus and manual with a button on the back dial. 2. the M50 can shoot electronic (silent)shutter; they just hid it in the SCN dial. I like the idea of the little bounce flash on the M6 II, but I tend not to use flash with my M50 anyway. The only reason I would upgrade is for the 120fps at 1080. I've shot a few music videos with my M50, and have gotten away with 120fps at 720p... LOOOL
My mistake for not realizing the M50 has the silent shutter mode in the SCN dial. I assumed it wasn't there since I never saw it in the menu. Should have done a google search before posting just to be sure. That said, since it limits the camera to auto exposure I'm not sure I would have used it much even if I had known it was there.
@@benbjurstrom Yes. Not sure why Canon hid the feature, and like you say it is pretty limited. Having said that, it has come in handy from time-to-time when shooting streetphotography on the bus or train, and even sometimes at events. I take it the silent shutter on the M6 II more advanced?…
Thanks for the video. You sold me on the M50 on this one, since I'm trying to upgrade for my RUclips channel. Thanks again and great content!!!
Wow thanks man, you've made me upgrade because of the minimum shutter speed.
I'm happy with the M50, it takes nice stills which is all I care about. Ergonomically it's great too. Thanks.
Dude, never mind the cameras. I love your background! All those wires and stands ever slightly bokeh'd out. I'm being serious :)
It gives a feel of being behind the scenes in a realistic environment vs over performed and staged and promoted
I recently bought the M50 (was initially going for the A6500 but my budget didn't quite get there and almost bought the Lumix Gx85 but there were shipping issues and I was refunded) so far I think it's a happy accident cause I like it! But then again I only tried it at home during quarantine lol; I still have to experiment outdoors with it.
Hi Ben, great review. This is exactly at the right time for me. I doubted between the M50 and the M6II but now my doubt is over, I will definitely go for the M6II. Thank you man 👍
wait so there's no viewfinder for the m6 mark ii? does that mean that everything has to be done using the screen?
M6 mk2 seems a really good camera, but for me, there's no real reason to change my M50 to this. Software features (timelapse, electronic shutter) can be upgradeable in M50 too. Missing buttons, dials of course not replaceable, but I don't need them. Because a few amounts of changing settings I use daily. The flash in both camears has a limited usability,ifI you want to use flash for various cases, you might to buy a better flash. Finally, EVF is priceless for me. If I'd need it to M6 mk2, I'll have to buy it separately.
I might be making this move too...The M50 is my first camera that got me into this game. Love shooting with it so much but as I wanted to do more things, so many times i had the "aw man" moment realizing the feature i wanted is not available on my M50. The M6 MKII has all the stuff I wanted but missing from the M50. However the lack of flippy screen is kind of big deal for me. I use it a lot when doing low or high portrait orientation shots. Also it should be useful when mounted on a gimal.
I miss the flippy screen too.
Mark ii has clean HDMI out as well for my streamer friends. That camera is on my list for sure.
Doesn’t it shut off after 30 mins?
@@benthurr you know what, you're right. Rip m6...
@@CHEFPKR at least it shuts off when it's recording so idk if it'll work it might
I’d buy it today if it had a fully articulating display. Why did the not make that.
Thank you! I’ve been debating between the two cameras as an upgrade for my channel! This helped narrow it down for me!
curious which one are you interested in.. I have a Canon g7x mark ii which I'm not impressed with im thinking of buying something else..
Looking forward to upgrade to this camera from my Canon 80d. Focus Peaking, 4K, Video Image Stabilisation, C-Raw and D+2....
If you have any questions regarding the 90D you can speak to canon directly www.canon.co.uk/canonlive/
This review was seriously helpful. How's the face detect AF? That's my only remaining point of concern as I have a 2 and 4 y/o.
Wow quality of content in your Chanel is awesome.. It'll easily reach a million :)
I like the M6 Mk II but there's no built in viewfinder & the screen only tilts.
Can the M6 Mark II be charged while controlled remotely over USB C from a laptop?
Probably not, I'm not aware of any laptops that output power delivery over their usb-c ports.
@@benbjurstrom Interface Cable IFC-600PCU
Conveniently charge the battery in your compatible Canon camera - including the EOS M50, PowerShot G5 X and PowerShot G9 X - by connecting it to a computer using the IFC-600PCU cable.
Loved my M50. The single dial drove me a little nuts, and the no DPAF 4k sucked. Got rid of it and got A6400 which has been great. That M60 M2 is really nice.
Oh the overrated sony cam
@@cammac66 You think its overrated really? Its a good value and takes great pictures and the video is quite good. The handling and menus are subpar of course though.
Liquid Valium hey man I got question, I’ve been thinking of doing the same, selling my m50 for the 6400, what worries me the most though is the small batteries and some people say shaky footage for stuff like vlogs. What’s your opinion?
@@mirrorlessmemory The video quality is far superior on the A6400. As the 4K out of it is crazy sharp. The picture profiles are great as well. You must use an OSS lens. If you do it will be reasonably good. If you want silky smooth stable though you have to use a gimbal. Frankly, the stabilization on an A6400 with an OSS lens, is very similar to the M50 with a Canon IS lens, For your mic add a $15 small rig cold shoe mount, and you can put mic to the side, and flip up the screen. The A6400 really is far superior to the M50 in many ways. That said, the ease of use of the Canon is easier to grasp quickly, and the Canon menus are the best hands down.
Great review! Good info about the USB charging. Thanks.
I'll be sticking to my M50 for now. I need an EVF and the clip on one adds cost and bulk. And one can't use the EVF and external flash at the same time.
If the evf is important to you then I would definitely wait for something like an M50mkII to come along.
@@benbjurstrom I'm still hoping for an M5mkII. I want the extra features that the M5 had which the M50 doesn't.
Great review, thanks! I've moved from A6000 to M50 last year (I'm VERY cheap on gear), but the AF performance is not great. Not sure if moving 'up, but back' to 7d m2 makes sense, but with wildlife I mostly use the viewfinder... I would love the quick settings changes with the extra dials in the very same situations though... why does Canon make it so hard with the trade-offs and can't make the body a bit bigger to include a Sony a6* style EVF or a pop-up EVF... not sure if I want the extra bulk of 90D and neither the AF versatility/settings of 7D2, nor the upgraded Dual focus AF (talking about the EVF situation in both cases and acknowledging the difference in AF tech). I hope it makes sense :)
Can decide between one of these and a Sony a6400
This is admittedly a weird question. Does the M6 let you select to shoot in the same crop as the M50 (I cant remember what it is in millimeters) and still get 4K? I ask because I use the M50 with some lenses that vignette with larger sensors. I’d love it if when you pick from the dimensions you want to shoot on the M6, the M50s crop size would be available too. Thanks for your thoughts!
Only missing the electronic view finder stops me from upgrading
I need your help everyone would u rather get a canon m50 with a 16mm sigma lens or a m6mii for the same price?
isnt the M50 the better camera for lowlight photography then the M6 MKII?
Are these small or your hand are huge ?
Didnt Canon announce that there will be a firmware update to include 24p?
Yep, a couple days after I uploaded the video. Sadly it won't be available until sometime in 2020.
@@benbjurstrom oh i see...well at least its coming i guess..
canon m6ii and sony a6400 are about the same price so which one will you recomment
I would do the a6400 if you're primarily using it for video and the M6 Mark II if you're more interested in stills.
pornjaa A6400 is more better than this m6ii
sony a6400 is the best!
A6400 is best when on the tripod 100% of the time. Shaky and horrible rolling shutter every time unless on a gimbal. Canon m50 FTW tbh. I returned my a6400 ASAP. Unusable.
@@defender1030 Can you give reasons or just repeating "Sony is better"?
Really interesting review and affirms my decision to buy one, not yet received. One odd thing though, all reviews talk about the lack of 24p but page 11 of the Canon Supplemental Information booklet that comes with the User Guide states that it supports 24p. Has 24p been added by a firmware upgrade? Also why is 24p such a big deal especially when you have 25p and 29.97p (according to the printed specification).
24p is what films are shot with so it looks the most cinematic.
Great video. Definitely a great camera now that we have the Sigma Trio and 24p via update. For me though, I’m waiting for M50 MK II hopefully. I love my EVF for photography and flip out screen for blogging. But the biggest factor for me is that the M50 is so much more affordable. I would hope that if a M50 MK II comes out it will maintain the same price point. I would hope they add a 2nd control dial for it, but if not, I’ve been able to live with it as I grew up with the Rebel series. But the M6 MK II is definitely a beast and hopefully will get more 3rd party accessory makes to look into EF-M. I want EF-M to continue on.
Hey so just you know, M50 MK II is out! And....its a firmware update
i love the tilty twisty screen (which you didn't mention, tho' you did briefly show the m6II's less useful tilty one!) & the evf of my m50. i'll stick with it for now!
Is the video quality on the M6markII better since it has the better 32 pixel sensor ??
I got the m50 for vlogging and I love it. I’m not a fan of the Mark series for that reason. You also didn’t discuss screen sizes and swivel features. I do like the usb type c power charge in camera but that won’t make the sale for me on the mk2.
hello according to your experience which will have better image quality in the video? Canon M6 Markt II OR SONY RX100 M7? THANK YOU
When dose the m50 ii come out??
Awesome! That USB charging feature is long overdue in a camera such as this.
Is the hdmi external recording continuous or time limited to 30min?
Excellent video. Very useful information, thank you.
Good advice about the flash on the M6, didnt realize it pulled back to be used to bounce, I have the same flash it seems on the M100, nice :)
There is an upgrade already for the m6ii - it has the 24p now
Very good review, this the only review that dig that much into m6 ii. I found more reason to get this camera. I'm currently using m50, and I'm planning to add a second camera. But I do wish it's have the tilt swivel screen, I always use it.
Well, I like the M50 mark ii. I haven't tried to compare it. So I prefer to have this M50 mark ii.
You’re the first reviewer I’ve heard mention a difference with the digital IS. I just assumed it was the same as in the M50.
Yeah.. The digital is in m50 is really suck, unusable, it's warping so weird. I hope that someone can upload the sample of digital is from m6 ii. But judging from this video it look pretty good.
after 1 years i sell my m50, this camera is really good for photo and video vlog, but i realy dont like the grip at least for my hand, and the build quality like plastic, dual pixel autofocus is amazing and image quality in low light amazing too, thank u my m50 for 1 years :}
good video and info. I've got the m50 mkii and I love it for stills and mostly love the video it produces. The big crop at 4k would be an issue except most of my 4k video is wildlife and zoomed way in on distant subjects so the crop hasn't really been as problem for me
Great review! 24p is on its way... I'm about ready to buy, Im torn between the 15-45 vs 18-150 kit lens. (I'll probably have both eventually anyway). BUT that 32mm (f1.4) will be my first get after the kit. I'm glad that you spoke favorable about the electronic/digital stabilization. I have hopes that (hand held) video with the 32mm (no IS) can be acceptable.
Please, how do they compare in terms or low light performance and noise?
Very, very helpful as a new M6 MII owner.
How do you like it so far?
Mine arrives Tuesday with the 32mm lens
Was at the coast in a storm, we have a haystack rock there so I set the mk2 up and ran some footage. Was able to stop up nicely to get the waves, rock detail and grass waving when the weather broke. Lots of fun! Need to get the remote working, thanks for askung - Mark
I just left the 18-150 kit on but have the 11-22 in the bag.. lightning fast AF!
I was about to buy the M6 Mk II for those times I don't want to lug around my 5D Mk III, so thanks for the reassurance. I have not seen a bad review yet, and DPReview like it as well :-)
Exactly my thoughts that the m6m2 is coming close to higher end full frame canon. But, samsung phones now $700 10+ or $1200 3 lense 20+, ibis stabilized phone can give always with me pics capability. Especially since the canon eos r was such a bad attempt at full frame, and with a new mount. And, surprisingly, watching youtube on my samsung phone now, selectively chosen content, imparts way more real knowledge that my expensive college years
Guess just being older enjoy the shutter sound it is satisfying and let me and the people the picture was taken. But I am a hold over from the film days
Hi Ben, nice comparison review! At 1:50 you were describing how you liked that the M6 Mark II has a manual/auto focus switch. Does the Canon M50 not have the ability to switch from manual to auto and back? How is it done on the M50? Could you please elaborate on this alittle more? Thanks!
I am currently deciding between the M50 and the M6 Mark II as my first camera as a beginner.
It's just as easy on the m50, default is left hand side of rear wheel toggles af/mf and you can customise most buttons to do whatever you like.
Nice Video! The M6 also has focus bracketing which was my reason for switching. Curious about your thoughts on this?
That flash tip is great! Even on my old m3 it works great
Looking for a second camera for interviews. Good insight about astro and shooting in 24FPS, or lack thereof... Might get it as a second camera, unless you can recommend another. Pretty lame how Canon limits their cameras- makes me almost want to switch to a sony.
Agreed...I'm torn between Sony and Canon, Fuji is not far away from the corners of my mind either.
However, after watching a lot of videos and reading comments, people seemed a little disappointed or frustrated with some of Canon's choices and limitations 😕.
M50's built in EVF makes it $150 cheaper right from the beggining, especially if you still want to use the hot shoe for anything and even more so if you want to bundle discount the EFS lens adaptor from a place like B&H. Imagine spending $300 more to get those two add ons... Does that evf compare to OVF for manual focusing Low F macro? Also can you elaborate on manual focus mode with the M50? Do you really have to use the camera menu, no dedicated button?
I know this video is a year old and maybe you won't see this comment, but I am in the same exact position as you were. Have the Canon M50 and I now upgraded. My question is this: how did you sell your M50? Where should I, in your opinion? And what would be a good price for a used but excellent condition M50? Any advice would be appreciated.
Why no evf? Still needs evf.
EOS M50 does also have an electronic shutter but it is rather limited on functionality. To me it annoys most that you cannot use the AWB-W setting (you can shoot in raw and develop in camera with AWB-W though). The electronic shutter is in the SCN-setting.
That speed setting is nice. EOS M50 on P does not go below 1/60s, nice with the 22 mm but way too fast with IS. EOS M was just the opposite as it went to 1/30. I think they should automatically base that on the lens.
I was considered M6 in 2017. I could not make my mind between M6 and M3 and I ended buying G9 X Mark II. When I saw the M50 I wondered the single wheel but IMO touch and use the wheel works nice enough.
I’m gonna upgrade from M-50. I never use EVF. I hate the swivel screen on M-50-HATE IT. I want the screen in line with lens. Plus it feels like one wrong move, it’ll snap off. Plus better specs. Now if Canon will create a full spectrum of lenses (come -on!) And why doesn’t firmware support in camera multi-exposure?????? The 5DMk3 onwards has the best in the business. It would be VERY HELPFUL for creatives to have this capability. Please Canon, we like your cameras, make each release as thorough and complete as possible, you’ll win in the long run (think Fuji).
So the m6ii has a back dial wheel but the eos r doesn't? Failure...
How does it compare to the rx100? If you had both on the shelf what would you pick up ?
Christian Lawrence I don’t think it’s really a fair comparison. The M6 II is an APS-C camera and it would be better to compare it to something like the Sony A6400 (or A6600). The RX100 has a tiny 1” sensor. I have an RX100 VII and use it sometimes for some video but not for stills. 1” sensors are tiny compared to APS-C.
@@AdrianChoPhotography yes I agree Adrian. 🙂 the reason I asked was that I own the rx100mk7 but iam trying to convince myself that the m6ii would be a better B cam to go with my eos R which is my primary shooter. The rx100 is awesome, but I find it a bit fiddly for stills. The video is great mind you. The m6 just feels better in my hand and easier to adjust using the dials, also the menu similar to the R. But as you say like comparing apples and pears.🙂🙂 might get the m6 and keep the rx 😉😉😉 just won't tell the wife. Have a good xmas 🙂
Christian Lawrence I’m a Sony full-frame shooter and I can’t stand the RX100 for stills. Every time I look at any photo from it I can’t get past the poor image quality. HOWEVER it is great for video especially as the RX100 VII has video eye AF which makes a huge difference if you are vlogging or recording people’s faces. And yes I agree the RX100 is a bit fiddly because of the size although you get used to it.
@@ChristianLawrence If you so prefer, it is a much bigger camera but sizes are a matter of opinion. I have M50 as my primary and G9 X II as my secondary. For me RX100 would be too big for a secondary camera.
Note that EF-M and RF lenses are totally incompatible with each other. Both systems, however, can us EF and EF-S lenses. I would not get a secondary incompatible ILC system. I would focus on the R-series, they will introduce smaller lenses.
@@okaro6595 traded the rx100vii in for the m6ii. No looking back. Love it, and a great small brother to my R. 👌👌
When was m6 mark ii released? Thanks
Hi, i am looking for a compact one, so confused between m6 mark ¡¡ and m200, because price range is also different and i am an occasional camera user, will use for photography, usually for outings and family gatherings, could you please advise which one would be good from image quality perpective? Is m200 is a hood choice?
“Upgrade” 🙄
I can’t justify the almost $400 difference.
But sure I’ll buy your m50 lol. Lmk!
The M50 is great. Super underrated.
The msrp is only $75 more. Some people are ignorant like that. The original M6 is even CHEAPER than both.
Aoi Kemono a new m50 can be bought at $567 right now. $1099 for the m6 II with the same kit lens? $532.
Id rather buy a new m50 and another m50 body + 22m EF M.
Aoi Kemono if you meant m6 to m6 II then maybe. But a great point is the EF M line glass not being high quality enough for the new sensor too. Until you adapt to EF / L glass.
@@RafaelUnplugged wow the topic magically went from price differences between cameras to lens quality. Good deflect there.
I've enjoyed your insights but can you please advise me on the following - for a beginner youtube video maker if you'd choose a camera mainly used for youtube videos (80% time for video, 20% for photos) and considering these prices on ebay UK for NEW M6 Mark ii are about-ish $775 (camera + kit) and for NEW EOS M50 on ebay UK are about-ish $570 (camera + kit), which camera would you finally choose? Assuming it is M6 mark ii, does it rise up to its price tag, is it worth the money difference in terms of its new features?
PS, I was also contemplating again for youtube videos an used sony A6400 with stock kit on ebay at the same price as a new M6 mark ii but the price of sony lenses really scary me and not sure if it is worth it?
I'm looking forward to making this decision in the following days and your comment would be very much appreciated, in a nutshell I'm torn between the models above and I just want to make a decision that would yield best price/value ratio while providing innovation in terms of camera features.
Anyone reading this comment that knows a thing or two about above cameras can also comment it will mean a lot to me. Thank you in advance!
Have a good one fellow youtubers and aspiring youtubers. :D
Are you sure that's the M50 mark 2? All of the M50 mark 2's I'm seeing on Amazon and youtube have a flip screen, viewfinder and doesn't have the 2 dials on top and mf, af switches. Did Canon release 2 different versions of the mark 2? The current M50 mark 2's layout are practically identical to the standard M50.
Does USB C output video so you can use the M6 as a webcam for live video?
Excellent job, too the point, re-learned some things I had forgotten, directional flash not mentioned in most other reviews
Great video Ben! Thanks!
*subbed* much love from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦 I’ve been waiting for this video I came from the SL2! Still deciding between the eos R or RP or the m6 or 90d but the best camera ur right it’s the one you have with you!
Clog makes the eos r the most appealing of your options. But the 90d doesn't crop the 4k additionally and maintains dpaf.
I don't color grade and I don't use 4k so I don't think it matters but I do like the idea of the RP and the m6ii they both use the same battery which is awesome 👌
Go for the EOS R
@@oliviermathis3235 is that what you have??
RP now there has been a firmware update.
nice comparison, great real world points
In terms of sharpness and detail which one would you recommend me to buy, iPhone 12/13 Pro Max or Canon M6 Mark II? And my second question would be if Canon M6 Mark II can compete with iPhone 12/13 Pro Max in nnight and low light situations? Thanks in advance for your response.
Are you really asking if a proper camera can compete with a phone camera?
I don’t use the electronic viewfinder ever, so I think the Canon EOS M6 Mark II will be the best option for me
The articulating screen and EVF. I'll keep the M50. The optional EVF is $200 more!
Good comparison.Thank you!
M6 really looks good to me. M6 or sony a 6400 is now the question for me
what did you get. I am torn between those two also
Where do you prefer to sell your old equipment, b&h,kel,ebay?
Ebay. There's more risk since you're dealing with buyers directly but you get much more for your old gear.
The Canon M50 doesn’t have clean HDMI out on it. You have to turn off the info and set it into Manual Focus to get a clean signal out for, the HDMI port, or else you get all of the onscreen display info. From what I hear, the M50 Mark II does have clean HDMI out though, just not the original M50.
Curious how you set up focus for stills on M50. Drives me nuts.
Either use the face tracking focus or the box focus and drag the focus point where you want. It's not that hard.
Gadgets 2.0 not that hard if you use the screen. Not that fun when using the eyepiece.
@@orangefrogphotography9019 It actually even easier with the viewfinder. Just look through the view finder and use your finger do drag the focus point around on the touch screen. You might have to find the settings to do this. It's called "touch-drag autofocus".