The BIGGEST MISTAKE Employees Make | Never Trust Verbal Promises | Career Talk With Anand
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- The BIGGEST MISTAKE Employees Make | Never Trust Verbal Promises | Career Talk With Anand
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Never is your hardwork paidoff. Its always politic and talk power is paidoff
Ajay, In some cases hard work is rewarded as well 🙂👍
@@CareerTalk it takes very decent bosses and colleagues to get appreciation for ur hardwork. It's been 28 years in my VFX career and after my hardwork, and aging to 50, they are never ready to shift me into management. These companies only prefer irrelevant, ignorant managers to run their companies, who only survive with politics and promoting favoritism. So this time I shifted to teaching with a very less salary rather than fighting the silly office politics. I have made them crores of rupees completing many reputed projects leading 150 people, but they just dont consider shifting me to management from production. The bosses just need ass lickers
@@ajay4i absolutely sir. Ass licking doesn't suit everyone. Its better to move somewhere where you can work keeping your head high, irrespective of the money.
@@ajay4i itna dukhi na ho, ja pogo dekh ley
May be politics and talk power is the criteria in most of the cases to be paid off...
This has been categorised as milking the SME.
Unfortunately in my 16 years of career I never got promotion internally. I always upgraded my skills, scope, role and responsibilities throughout my career and created a strong profile.
This helps in getting better jobs in other companies
That's right if one is upgrading skills and other things then there may be opportunities outside as well 👍
That's true. Growth in same company is very rare.
The enormous hard work i took to get one promotion in IT in 7 years.. Compared with Quater of hard work my brother took to sell samosas with 8 times money he got..
@@jayrashtrahindavi2089 here, this is me,who didnt get promotion for almost 8 years!!😞
@@codeaffection10
No worries at all.. Promotion in indian IT are obnoxious and abnormal process .. Very few who they thing are multi tasking and can do super human things are only promoted.. Don't focus on promotion.. It is slower than 🐌.. And eventually may get only max 10 percent rise.. Focus on getting expertise on advance levels in your technology.. Switch at right times and look for onsite opportunity..
These alternatives are better than promotion
I am Hr in wipro.
I suggest all IT employs plz have mail conversions ..even your manager quits also it will valid and will help you
This is totally relatable. Never trust your Manager.
The boss is setting things up against him. All are planned.
A simple solution is to keep upskilling , applying to new jobs , getting new offers then threatening to leave if the company doesn’t provide the growth or opportunity. Also , it is always good to start hustling on the side for gigs and startup opportunities.
With 3 yrs of experience.. I don't know if i have to be happy or sad about it but it happened to me and my friend already.. we joined a company through campus placement with 2yr bond.
They made us work on legacy technologies which no experienced person was willing to.. so we were shown this dream that we will be taken into other project after we support the legacy one for 1yr.. believe me 2yrs passed away and we were in the same legacy project. The project manager who made us the promise left silently.. me and my frmd were stuck anyway..
But never the less we kept up skilling and are in a better position now..
Again I don't know if i have to be happy or sad about it but it happened to me and my friend
Hope this helps
Cheers
Hello Balji, Thanks for sharing your experience. It is great that you and your friend kept learning other things and got better opportunities. Best wishes for your future endeavors 🙌
Technology is not everything, sometimes a big project teaches you a lot many things, even if done with a legacy technology. Focus on engineering aspects , not only on technology. But yes, Our indian IT recruiters sadly though, focus only on technology and not on engineering.
Same with me for 17+ yrs experience
This happens quite a lot. At the end of the day, very few bosses really stand up for their direct reports and do what they promised. There is always an excuse for not doing it - you are almost there but not quite there yet, there was a budget situation but it will happen next year, I stood up for you but someone else said no etc etc. All CYA. You need to look out for yourself and not trust anybody too easily in the corporate world.
1 out of 100 bosses,
Hi Anand I worked in your project in Zensar , the content in your channel is so good. Its very informative and a guiding source for many professionals. Keep up the good work👍🏻
Thank You Richa 🙌
Guys dont fall trap to the company's career growth.
Very important lesson and great solution! Thanks a ton.
Have experienced similar situation twice so far.
Glad it helped!
Boss quitting is one thing. Managers don't quit generally. But boss downplaying the extra responsibilities one took , at the time of appraisal is quite natural and expected .
Boss is always right ........ they may have a soft corner for
certain employees but that is justified. As you said every bit
of work should be documented and the top management should be
kept in the loop else there is a chance of someone else getting
credit for our hard work
Anand it would be great if you could make a video on the
work culture and regional politics in Indian IT companies.
I have worked in the USA and in India, based on my experience
there is huge difference in work culture and discipline.
Sure Zameer. Thats a good idea. I can try one on work culture in India and US 🙌
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That exactly happened in my case!!
Obviously, responsibility should have been documented.
Yes, very good. There must be conditions before accepting the new role. Otherwise, you are taken it granted.
Thank you so much Anand Sir for this great and valuable information. Please continue to motivate us and also direct our path in organization we are in as most of us are not aware of these.
Glad you found it helpful 🙂👍
Thank you very much sir. Nobody is there to tell us these things
Managers do a very good job of covering and hiding each others malpractices
By far the best youtube channel for career advice. Thank you Anand Sir, for putting out such beautiful content!
it mostly fear mongers about everyday life
This exact incident happened to me three months ago. If only I had viewed your clip then... Nevertheless thank you for your valuable insights!
Doesn't work in reality. He is giving bookish advices, nothing else.
You need to work sometimes in stealth mode as per boss advice without much advertisement. If you don't, then there are others who will take up the work. You need to trust your boss first than anyone else. If you show rigidness that I will follow the process, document everything, then highly likely it would irk your boss who is looking for result first, and once you earn the trust you can push your thoughts very easily
These things are theoretically correct, but rarely gives results in reality. At the end we work only for money to meet monthly finances. Bitter but truth....!!
True
In Indian corporate world there is no sympathy or humanity.
Your boss is tremendous pressure from his boss.And pressure just transferred to you.
To be successful you have to exploit or use your subordinates as a ladder.
Whenever requirement is fullfiled then just throw him out.
Is it the same scenario everywhere? I don't think so
It is the same in Pharma Industry as well
@@CareerTalkno
Very true sir! Your videos are really informative!
Sometimes we make efforts but never get recognized by the manager!
We should never give up 😄!
Life is difficult, job is just a part of life 😄!
Thank you Anand for giving such valuable information with us.
Please do motivate us with your Experience and thoughts to grow in IT.
Thanks 🙏
Thank You Nagendra Babu. I am glad you found it helpful 🙌
Really helpful 👍
Thanks a lot 🙌
Actually happened with me, i got the promotion but then didnt got any salary hike and boss left after few months
Absolutely correct.
I hadn't done this.
nd face lots of issues. Kra shud be documented 👍
all these years i have had a pathetic boss :( most of them were self centered !!!! Very true never trust these people's words get a better job and move!!!
This is not always the case...have worked in different projects in TCS and most of the time I got good manager whom I trusted and it paid me well.
Firstly I would appreciate for this precious advice. I would request to continue in future. Could you please help me know in such cases how to politely decline additional work/baggage. If we decline how negatively how it will remarked on our career advancements? Thank you
Sir this has really happened with me. I was promised promotion since i took up the challenge of a new pilot project. I got nothing at all in the appraisal cycle.
Here in india , once 10 years experience is reached , many start pushing for mangers role hoping for enhanced status and power
Thanks for the excellent guidance and can be the perfect course of action in such scenario😊
Anand sir, you are superb. I need one suggestions. My self Pramod Pathak. Working in multi national IT firm last 2005 but due to lack of me not switch much jobs and not updated my skills. Am very worst situation in terms of salary and position both. My junior and my boss's don't give such important those I am deserving. I need your suggestion how I over come this worst situation of my life. Need some tips and tricks. Also let me know can we call to you and discuss you on same over the phone or online medium. I will really appreciate for the same.
Hi Pramod, Please write to me on careertalk@anandvaishampayan.com
It seems wrong title given for this video. Instead it should be never trust verbal promises. Your title gives negativity in boss, employee relationship which is not right.
These things are theoretically correct, but rarely gives results in reality. At the end we work only for money to meet monthly expenses. Bitter but truth....!!
Why don’t you make a video on “why Appraisal is nothing but pulling you down”
But I very verbal discussion can’t be asked to be given in writing . For example , if the boss says “keep working if so then you could be leading a team”.. now no boss will give it in writing. It’s just a kind of verbal assurance
If the boss Quits , we should inform him to inform about promotion and work to upcoming boss , when he is doing KT or to his boss
Good video
But
1. If your boss leaves, then skip level must keep you happy in order for you not to leave as well.
2. If the promise was made to you for any short term goal. Then even if it is documented, your organisation can still deny promotion for you since they can replace you after getting short term goal accomplished
Unskill and keep switch with good package is good solution in IT industries
True.. We don't know when he hates.
👌👌👌👍 it had already experienced.
🙏 teaching reality others .👏👏👏👏👏
And do keep nlmind that everyone in mangers layer and above is fully integrated and aligned with every other manager .
Very good channel
thanks for sharing this valuable piece of information.
If you thought of your manager is quitting soon , then any other project assignment / responsibility should be recorded in SYSTEM with all stake holders , HR , Manager's Manager and client and stakeholders so that you can get hike for your additional responsibility as promised
Doing the same thing from last 7 years but I got the rewards most of the time..but this so unprofessional, I must say..
We cannot generalize this, my boss is someone who helped me so much to build my career.
Great to know that Rakesh. Yes, agree we cannot generalize it 🙌
Managers want certain ppl to be thier side thug to know about if ppl talk bh their back about manager
Yes guys....there in no such thing called "verbal" promises...
Even yesterday he promised me like this but he thinks I don't know the reality🤣
Sad part is , once worker becomes manager he is just the same as others are in the company.
I am not experienced person in IT but I don't understand why boss does not give him the promotion or hike the money is not going from his pockets. can somebody explain?
You are just using your personal experiences to make vast generalizations. "Never trust boss". "There is no work after 40". Most people will have a great time in software development, if they keep maintaining their skills, and they know how to maintain relationships.
Oh it's so true and relatable
Thanks, very useful.
Got a lead role with direct reportees addition to my other responsibility. But there is no official job title, no increment. Its been a year. Not sure should i be happy for this role or sad for no increments. 😢
Can we ask for written promise? I don't think my manager will entertain this. What should I do?
Hi sir.. I'm a recent graduate. Started working in a company. They put me in L3 support. I'm not getting any proper work, I just have to support my senior in what he does. I liked coding in college but now I hate it. What should I do?
You can build your functional expertise, work with customers and let your manager know your worth
@@shindeamol25 will not having done a lot of coding in my current job prevent me from getting a developers job in my next switch?
Very good way
Sir! Why didn't you post this video 2 years back? 😔
This is exactly what happened with me in my previous company. I was taking care of the MIS function of a client, our General Manager gave me other clients as well and this way I was working on the operations as well as UAT testings for new projects by the end of my stint in that company.
Thanks a lot for sharing this!
Thanks Atharva. Glad you could relate to it 🙌
I guess just keeping all the stakeholders an Boss's Boss will also not do in this situation as the promotion was promised by your direct boss also verbally and now he is leaving. Stakeholders or boss's boss will not give a damn about your deal. They will evaluate your workarounds though as you have kept them from beginning but chances of your promotion are very less. You can get a great rating for that fiscal year but almost forget your promotion.
With the advent of AI these sort of things won't be relevant in 10 years as so many IT jobs may go away and the entire structure of companies and job nature may change drastically.
Good Information sir thank you..
Thanks a lot Chaithanya Reddy. I am happy that it helped you in some way 👍
That’s perfect, well said 😂
Sir one think always remember in 21st century skills is most important in corporate jobs
Sir in it sector normal mind employee kon se level tak jaa sakta at the age of 56 retirement. director,pv bann sakta hai ya principal engineer tak journey end ho jaye gi please reply.
Yes. That’s the basic rule in any job
Learnt this the hardway👍
Dear one your introduction missing .This happens in big organisations
Right. The managers have earned infamy as Sly tout.
Even manager are not bothered on KRA , Manager going with budget
Thank you sir
what if there's a change of manager at the middle or before the end of the appraisal period and your new mgr. is not aware of the specifics of your achievement though it's documented, what usually happens to your performance rating??
Sir after graduation i worked for medicall billing compnay 8 months in which they deducts PF .. after that i got joined in IT as a fresher by absconding the medical billing company.. now i have 2 years experience in IT with proper relving letter and F&F settlement ..now i changed another company by showing them as 2years experience only although hided the medicall billing company in my resume as well since it is irrelevant feild ..whether they will check 2years only or they will check entire serivce history in bgv ?
I am 12 years exp.i am in a role where i am senior development but for next promotion i need to have people tagged under me and unfortunately i dont have similar skillset junior resources around who can be tagged under me. How should i make strategy and do discussion with my manager for next promotion in coming years. ?
Never believe any one including your wife...
😂
Thanks for the video sir
Same thing happened to me, thanks
this is what actually has happened with with .In my organisation people get first promotion when they complete 3.5 to 4 years in organistion and same situation happend i asked my manager to initiate my promotion he said he inititiatwd (do not trust verbal communication) and now i have completed 5 years in organsation still my promotion was not done and i took LWP in september generally appraisal is done in march and guess what he gave me C band ..all other employess would take my manager granted do not obey him and just ignore him but i really workd hard taking all the responsibiliteis and at the wnd became chutiya
Workers are selfishly foolish in accepting and agreeing to demands of boss who might himself be responsible for another resource quitting . Amd he wants the shock to be absorbed asap .
S I agree almost boss are selfish and political motive
Bulls eye !! I think the higher management does this on purpose.
Very true
When u say documentation, mail it to boss?
I never trust when my boss says he will promote me.
I was very well affected with this.
Is this best tome to switch job?
Hi Shoaib, It depends on a lot of factors. If your current situation is not good then go for it. If it is possible to wait then wait and watch. Also demand, supply with respect to your skills is a key factor.
@@CareerTalk I am getting call for Interviews, Shall I go for it?
So please don't demotivate to peoples
Its been the same with me now i have resigned 😢
You are telling my story 😂😂
Sir what about freshers that join in cognizant they are lot of number fresher in bench in last 5month is this problem to that one because of layoff
exactly my situation 😆😆
Hi I am in HCl I am facing the same situation what should I write in my email?
Sir my son studing in 10th . His interest in computer and want making future in I. T.. Pls sugest which course is suitable for him
I know you didn't ask me but Get him sent to foreign universities and then specialisation in cybersecurity over software engineering. Foreign unis in Germany, Australia, New Zealand, UK or Canada are excellent and would actually make your son worthy of his education. I would not recommend US though. btw edu in Germany is quite affordable and accepted worldwide.
Sir,
You are looking like Kapil Dev
I hate corporate life..
Sir idhar simple email communication me managers ko problem hota he.. They don't like documented communication with employees.. As in if employees communication with them abt any issue they don't like..for there own concern they will document it..So the question of involvinv other stakeholders etc is taken as a breach of hierarchy.. They will say who told u to go to hr and involve them as I was just giving u a responsibility abut u made a big thing out of it.. Now go in pip and speak to hr itna hi tumhe hr se baat karne ki interest hei.. I have seen this happen sit that why saying. . This is a very wrong advice.. Maybe purane zamane me chalta tha now a days it will go as oversmartness by employees
I agree
Sir now you should going to be do job. or it's over and you should not do job and go for other field.
We should work hard, learn new things and get the jobs we deserve 🙂👍
Cant Agree more
Thanks a lot 🙌