Why a Dead Silence PERK is so Important in Call of Duty
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- The debate surrounding a footstep dampening perk like Dead Silence or Ninja in Call of Duty has been raging since the launch of Modern Warfare (2019) and while I've discussed this many times in previous videos, I wanted to make this dedicated video covering all of my primary arguments in favor of having a perk like this for multiplayer CoD. What are your thoughts on Call of Duty having a footstep dampening Perk, rather than a limited use Field Upgrade?
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0:00 Intro
0:30 History of Footstep Dampening Perks in CoD
2:11 Gameplay Pace & Flow
4:37 Playstyle Variety & Balance
6:47 Skill Gap & Skill Ceiling
10:19 Why CoD Specifically?
14:28 "You just want to blind rush"
15:07 "It shouldn't be in Warzone"
15:29 "They should just balance footsteps better"
16:04 "What's the counter to a Dead Silence Perk?"
16:59 "Dead Silence would be a Crutch Perk"
21:26 Wrapping Up 
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they changed so much stuff in the most recent cods (dead silence, spawns, re rolling streaks, no score streaks, disbanding lobbies, sbmm, maps... ). All these things combined in made a fun experience in past titles. One or two of these aren't deal breakers but all of them combined make a frustrating experience that has me take a wait and see approach when it comes to new cod games where it used to be an automatic buy every time I feel.
Underrated comment. I would add pick 10 system or some equivalent like ghost’s to that. Sick of the nade spam from everyone being forced to use one on spawn. Flak jacket will always be the crutch perk no matter the slot it’s in as long as everyone spawns with nades.
Agreed. I also don't like how they put bullet velocity in the games. I never minded it in BF since that was a more realistic game.
Disbanding lobbies is especially deal breaking for solo players like myself. Turns the game into a soulless, life sucking experience. I've bought every cod title, but regret the last two. I won't buy anymore.
@@rpaustex my biggest regret was honestly infinite warfares multiplayer although it’s campaign and zombies was pretty good
Something I feel isn't talked about enough here is how the minimap is completely busted in new cods. It straight up doesn't work. Vanguard added a perk to fix this but I shouldn't have to run a perk to fix what is more of a bug than a feature in your game.
BO2 is the perfect balance for dead silence imo. Base footsteps weren’t overly loud and it was in a competitive perk category (dexterity, tac mask, extreme conditioning). Not only that but the pick 10 system made it so you would have to sacrifice an extra couple perks or an attachment to get it.
Pick 10 ruined perk balance
@@liquidsweg4858 no it didn’t. BO2 did it right and nobody complained
@@liquidsweg4858 Oh yeah pick 10 system definitely is better than being able to have 10 attachments and perks like a brain dead sheep... 🙄
@@Cuhfs yes it did
Perk Greed fucked the balance coz now you can have 2 of the best perks in a single category
@@liquidsweg4858 and you had to sacrifice two gun attachments for that…. Or both lethal and tactical pick 10 was the best
I think the way that MW3 did it was perfect. Both Sitrep and Ninja were in the game so there was counterplay in both options in a very competitive perk 3 category
Agreed. This would be a reasonable solution.
Besides Assassin being OP, MW3 was pretty well balanced in terms of perks.
Uhhh sir. Did you play with the last patch that made Dead Slience 100% useless againist Sitrep? Because that balance wasn't it at all.
They even made it so Sitrep with your own footsteps to you, you had no audio.
That balance wasn't it chief. 💀
@@fiend2society Assassin wasn’t so bad. There was other value in the perk 2 slot. Quickdraw reduced ADS by half which is insane. Also hardline meant you could rack up extra perks through Specialist fast anyway. I played a tonne of S&D on that game and I’d only switch to an Assassin class once the enemy team had a UAV. I guess Dom/Demolition it was more useful but even then just use Hardline to get it.
Well it was perfect until sitrep pro was OP that it made ninja not very usable
I do feel like the sneaky flank style of play is hindered in recent games. I do miss the way it felt before. Good thoughts here, sir. Thank you.
The only CoD that it’s hindered in is MW19.
BOCW & Vanguard were fine.
They never really allowed for flanking full on, but god do I miss feeling like a badass coming behind them
I don’t. In cold war i have gotten every single one of my nukes by flanking left side of green house on nuketown, climbing up on the rail in front of the window, and cleaning house, then spawn trapping. It’s not that hard to do on cold war’s small maps, but it takes an eternity on the larger maps like cartel and by the time you’ve gotten all the way to their spawn the spawns will have flipped.
So well communicated ace! Nobody could of explained this better. Activation I hope you are listening. You would have to be crazy to argue and deny what and how some people want to play. But it's most.
"This increases the skill gap and the skill ceiling" Ahhh, now you've come to the real problem. Activision doesn't WANT a skill gap. That much has been made perfectly clear.
Well there was one anyway. Otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about SBMM so much.
So why do they have a profesional league then? The point of COD is that you want to improve, become better and to see the results of putting time into it. Everyone suck when they started playing the game, it’s the satisfaction of improving that kept many around
@@jey7230 why can I pull an easy 2.0+ kd on mw2 without using stopping power on my m4 and barely break 1.0 on mw2019? You die extremely fast in mw2 and yet here I am, using a relatively weak weapon, challenging quick scopers and ump45 w/stopping power users like its nothing. I'm not afraid to charge around the map and move positions in a game where many weapons will 2-3 shot you, sometimes even without stopping power.
@@lolbuster01 the ttk imo shouldn’t be too fast something more balance like Coldwar’s ttk is ok for me, since more tracking requires more skill. Imo the best way is to have both ninja as a perk and dead silence as field upgrade so ppl can choose when to use what.
@@jey7230 bo2 had the best ttk. few weapons were peashooters but all the hard hitting weapons fired very slowly, with the exception of the Scar-H but that was the best ar in cod history so i’m not complaining.
I just wish they'd put strong perks together like they used to so it not so much a crutch, its a decision.
Having say dead silence and flak jacket in the same category means you pick stealth vs durability. Or whatever example you wanted.
Search is so much better with Dead silence. Without it, basically DO NOT run around. Do not flank. Play extra slow.
There is nothing tactical about sitting in a room with claymores and a shotgun watching the doors.
Footstep dampening perks are essential for aggressive, high movement gameplay.
Scorestreaks are definitely better for getting people to play objectives but we don't need the cold war style system where you always get the streaks during the match.
You'd need to spread perks differently...
Eg: Perk 1 being Overkill, Ghost, Restock or Dead Silence...
Then all other perks split between the other 2 categories.
Or make perks a point value and use the Ghosts system which is far superior to the 3 perk system
The other thing to do would be having a perk similar to the old Amplify where footsteps are louder....
But instead make it so it makes dead silence users footsteps regular volume and doesn't affect non dead silence users
Too bad. On the MWII sub. I explained that dead silence could return as a field upgrade simply so they can integrate the content from MWII into Warzone II knowing how some field upgrades, Killstreaks and loadouts would transfer over. For that comment, i receive somewhere like 5- Downvotes for saying that could be the case. All i was saying was that it may just be for the warzone integration. Its that fucking simple to understand but redditor can’t have two seconds to understand what my point is.
[Source: www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareII/comments/vtpitx/please_dead_silence_as_a_perk/?]
@@playerslayer6923 thats what makes reddit stupid sometimes. Getting downvoted for providing facts and doing it while being respectful is kinda dumb. People just like being right and dont want to hear any other opinions
@@Icepyr0 i don't think that would be smart because it would basically become a gamble perk. If no one is using dead silence then you've wasted a slot. if that becomes common, then people wouldn't use amplify thus making dead silence an instant pick for those who are more in the know when it comes to the meta.
Remember when you had to build counter classes for a few scenarios and change up your style to get wins? My old team had anti-killstreak classes we would switch to and eliminate areal steaks. Now I have the same class copy pasted with different guns. No need to mix things up.
Yessss.
Make it a perk but please give it interesting competition. The last thing we need is everyone running it on every class like in Cold War because all of the other perks in it’s tier suck.
Yeah that's kinda the problem. In every cod that has Dead Silence, it's one of the most picked perks and for good reason.
The counter to a dead silence perk is supposed to be sit rep, a perk that makes footsteps louder / cancels out with dead silence.
He mentions that, but referred to it as Awareness
@@JoshiVlogsOfficial bo3 called it awareness.
For someone like me who always play solo ninja is a must on most my classes and it's my most used perk in cod history. The fact that it wasn't in MW2019 was one of the major factors in why I disliked it so much.
That's what some would call a "crutch".
Id also love Sitrep. A perk that would louden footsteps or negate the dead silence of your enemies, and make your own footsteps and your teammates footsteps *Appear* silent to you.
Agree with all of this. I've always enjoyed the sneaking/flanking playstyle (especially as I get older and reflexes wane) and MW19 completely killed that as it was basically Camping Simulator 2019. Dead Silence should always be represented in perk form as it allows that playstyle to exist. If MW2 is anything like the previous with footstep audio/no Dead Silence perk I'm continuing my streak of skipping COD as it just won't be fun for me
You must have skipped Cold War and Vanguard for other reasons then because they have the perks.
@@sidneysmith6698 I did, neither looked good enough tp bring me back
Dead silicence needs to be a perk. It being only a charged field upgrade in MW 2019 drastically hampered aggressive game play and incouraged camping game play. In my option a complete mistake in design for a FPS multiplayer game.
I'm so tired of Infinity Ward's bad choices since Ghosts. Since Ghosts IW wants games to be campy and punish aggressive players. Cold War was a return to form and I can't wait for the next Black Ops title. Vanguard was a mix of both but in its current season it's leaning towards campy maps.
@@noobbotgaming2173 And that’s only one change. Going back to killstreaks from scorestreaks is another horrific change that wasn’t needed.
@@noobbotgaming2173 cold war was fucking awful, the campiest cod I've ever played
@@eggbug2244 killstreaks are far superior
i never had an issues with rushing in mw19 and I have dealt with a lot of campers but mostly in hardcore. In normal modes its not there. I don't know how people keep saying they can't rush yet i have no issues with rushing
I have fond memories of BO1 S&D where everyone had ninja and positioning was way more important. The ability to pull off creative flanks and make clutch plays is now only periodic and doesn’t last very long. I was able to adapt and I do still to this day enjoy playing MW19, but I know it could be better. I do hope they change their mind on this.
At the very least they should tone down the foot step audio and not make it sound like I'm EDP running around a map trying to get a cupcake
Imo footsteps should be loud so people cant super easily sneak up to you
@@spacedout4061 Why so they can’t catch you in the corner pre aiming down sight with your Rose skin you 🤡 stop being a troll on everyone’s comments weirdo
Where you really understood how bad the footstep audio was in MW19 was playing Search and especially Hardcore Search. It was nearly a death sentence when on the planting side when running around as the defenders could just sit in a corner ADS listening to footsteps to know exactly where you are. The only time Search really felt good was when Dead Silence charged and you could freely run around without fear of being instadeleted.
just get better
@@hxvok5676 that’s the absolute dumbest argument. I’m a 2kd player and most likely better than you😂
@@j0hny00s only the shitters think loud footsteps is a good idea, ignore him he's delusional
@@j0hny00s L
@@j0hny00s he probably doesn't even get a kill in search
Yeah, totally agree. Sometimes I play with no volume what so ever and I still do totally fine. I feel like it's like you said, it's mainly about being strategic.
Vanguard got it right imo, Nina and the Dead Silence perk, so you don't have to run the perk if you want something else, if MWII does that with field upgrade pro, that would be amazing imo
Yes this was the only thing vg got right.
And they made it perk 3 slot competitive where you had to choose if you wanted ninja, lightweight, marathon, or scavengar
No, Vanguard and Cold War got it wrong because there isn’t any perks to semi-counter dead silence (like in the old games). Where’s amplified? Where’s eavesdrop? Where’s awareness? If cod isn’t gonna balance dead silence in their games, I don’t want it in the game at all. Nobody wants to just hear gunshots and explosions only.
@@Live_Fast_Die_Punk make ninja the perk not completely silent. It halfs the range of running noise, walking noise is only hearable within 5 meters, and crouching or ads walking is silent. No need for a counter perk. Or make it so high alert makes it so you're never silent with it, but it still lowers the audio range. Make dead silence a field upgrade, and you're completely silent even when tac sprinting.
@@RednaxelaExE exactly, I can agree with that because it makes no sense as to why a player’s footsteps are 100 percent silent. That’s OP and unbalanced af (unless you’re using it as a field order then it should be 100 percent silent) and I use dead silence on all my classes, like I said, shit just needs to get balanced out. Cold War and Vanguard ruined the perk and made it too OP. The developers just got lazy if I’m being honest, it can’t be that hard, they’ve been making these games for years.
AW did have a perk to quiet the jet noise, so i would count that
Yup, Blast Supressor! It stopped you showing up on MM when using exo-jumps
I didn’t “show up with MW19” I’ve been playing since CoD4, I’m a run and gun kind of guy, but what I love so much is that it makes you have to stop and think just a bit more than just mindlessly sprinting around a map nearly infinitely, hopping around corners and getting a better angle and element of surprise on someone to get their kill, it’s cracked. That’s why footsteps audio should be balanced better. There should be an element of both.
This
If you truly think you can just sprint mindlessly in older CoDs you probably didn't really understand why and when people do it.
Because if you play like that you won't have much success. But Ace probably addressed this
0.9 KD player here.
I don't mind MW19 original maps. Like I really don't. Headquarters Grazna, Hardpoint Petrograd and Domination Rammaza has always been intense and fast paced action.
That being said, I wished I had DS as a perk in many situations, especially when the enemy are already locking down the HP or HQ. It's difficult to try and flush them out when they can accurately pinpoint where you are. I come around and 3 Kilos/M4s are already aiming at me 🤡
"0.9 KD"
opinion discarded. only people with 2.0+ kd should be talking about whats good for the game.
@@awepossum1059 Guess that number is the only highlight of your life. My condolences 🤗
@@awepossum1059 "you're not as good as some players are so your opinion is invalid and couldn't POSSIBLY have any good thoughts or ideas."
Lololol ok 😂
@@awepossum1059 That’s an incredibly shitty opinion.
@@awepossum1059 Wrong, all skill levels deserve to have their thoughts heard (I'm a 2.4 k/d btw) the only thing is lower skilled players shouldn't be catered to, which is what MW19 did
First and 100% agreed. We need a dead silence perk to counter the camp playstyle
Confused because that's kinda the point of MW19 and why people think it's so great.
Plus snapshot grenades, or perks like sixth sense or a millimeter scanner from bo2
So why is cold war the campiest cod in the last 10 years, it has ninja
@@bladeclanhalo3 It's not. Modern Warfare 19 is.
@@bladeclanhalo3 what? in what world is cold war the campiest cod in the last 10 years? it's the opposite of that. First of all there are no doors in that game and second well you said it has ninja. Not saying camping is fully gone, but atleast there is counterplay to campers whereas mw19 had none other than waiting for a field upgrade to use for about 15 secs or so.
All those people that call it a crutch perk probably run ghost in every single class setup
Just barely started the video and already had to hit the like button. The lack of a dead silence perk in MW2019 was a huge part of why I stopped playing it much earlier than any previous COD.
Imagine needing a crutch so bad you stop playing a good game because of it
Put Ghost & Dead silence/Ninja in the same perk tier. You’d have to pick one; silent foot steps but appear on the radar vs you do not appear on the radar but you cannot have loud footsteps. Why are they so incompetent?
If mw2022 doesn't have dead silence, this just proves iw loves defensive/camping playstyle and wants cod to be slow
Or they just want the new players to not quit after the first game of getting destroyed haha I think they're catering too much to younger or newer players unfortunately.
@@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O But that is what skill-based matchmaking is for.
The fact that they’ve come out and said that they want this game to cater to all play styles gives me hope…
What would be the point in saying that if they don’t plan on having dead silence as a perk?
@@PaggerDunch I agree. Hopefully SBMM will be a thing in MW2.
I agree. IW lost its way since MW3. Every IW title since then (except Infinite Warfare) punishes rushers. Treyarch is way better. Ninja as a perk and the Wildcard 6 perk system!
No dead silence perk also drastically impacts the knifing community.. melee weapons won't get as much attention if footsteps are too loud
Good it's a game based around gunplay isn't it?
@@zkilla4611 it's based on both hence the existance of both and challenges for melee.weapons .
The knifing community is so small also that it doesn't have much of an impact on over all gameplay
@@ramadadiver59 I hate knifers
Woah s/o to Ace for pulling out a long video.. this is his true passion and analytical skills to the series.
Weird... I liked MW2019 quite a bit. But after playing CW and VG I played MW2019 MP today and I realized how shit not having a dead silence perk was. I'm normally around a 1.5 kd player but I was averaging like a 1.2 kd (based on most of my matches ending with a 0.9 to a 1.4) cause I usually move around a lot. I can win a gunfight... but when 90% of the other team is holding hands and crouch walking in a room or sitting in a corner it's hard to do well at all
skill issue?
@@hxvok5676 yeah... I don't have that camper skill. I can't sit that long and hide. I can win gunfights... but I'm not a scared little bitch thats gonna camp corners with dragon's breathe shotguns.. so yeah lol
Annoying as hell when someone thinks camping is a skill right bro? Like sitting in a corner sound whoring with your 725, two shot weapon, riot shield, val, etc isn’t a skill but that’s the dominate playstyle in MW 2019. Wanna see a huge skill gap try that camping crap in Apex arenas youll get them cheeks clapped. That’s been my go to lately cause SnD has just turned into a big ol hide n seek match.
@@andrewmirandavalverde5402 facts
Should be build in for everyone. No reason to add perk that everybody has to use
Yes agree
They should bring back old school ghost too. Having to move to not be on the radar doesn’t work in a mode like s&d. You could be the last man alive in a 1v3 and they use a uav but you’re not in the position where you can just start moving around and because of that you’re dead cause you either showed up on the map or died cause you have to move when it wasn’t safe. Same can be said for if you’re a few kills off from a nuke or a big streak, uav comes up but you’re in a spot where you just need to chill for a second but cause you have to be moving for ghost to work you get killed.
You talk a lot about checkers and chess but it sounds like you want to play more checkers then chess. Not having to check usual corners or spots where someone might be camping. You would just rather the map give you the info. I know you say other wise but your arguments against ghost say the opposite.
Being able to build a full stealth class for s&d and other times you wanted to play like that was cool. In todays cod they try to force you to play one way rather then give players the choice. I’ve played a lot of hardcore and theres no map and we still seem to rush around just fine cause we check our corners and usual camping spots.
The only reason people argue against old school ghost is cause they want to run around full bore chasing red dots without having to check corners and have peoples positions spoon fed to them.
I never thought about that. And I think that the ghost while moving things was introduced because people started camping and sound whoring really hard in mw3 where sitrep was so strong you could hear almost clear across some maps.
@@lolbuster01 Footsteps being to loud is a big problem imo and for sure makes camping easier. They need to go back to softer footsteps like in the first few cods.
@@lolbuster01 no. black ops 2 made it so ghost made you immune to uav only when moving.
As unrealistic as it sounds, I think it would be interesting to make dead silence be linked to gun attatchments. Like, either the more naked your gun is, the more silent your footsteps are, or maybe doing things like using no stock and a short barrel will make you silent but will add more recoil. That way there is a true advantage/disadvantage to running with it. Right now, I feel like dead silence is an absolute crutch perk.
I totally agree with your analysis! I feel like CoD always messes with things that were perfectly balanced for the sake of change. I also feel like they make a balancing mistake and fix it halfway through the game's lifecycle when they receive feedback on that item - then they go and make the same exact mistake with the release of the very next cod without learning anything. Very frustrating.
I don't think dead silence can really ever be a crutch perk because it wouldn't be the perk of choice for every playstyle. Example is little Timmy in the corner, or Chad defending an objective would never need dead silence because they wouldn't benefit from quiet footsteps. To me, the prime example of a crutch perk is stopping power because it was be the best perk to use in any playstyle.
But to use stopping power you had you had give up lightweight pro, and cold blooded. Arguably both good second runner ups and very very valuable in their own way
It was absolutely a crutch in Cold War. There was no reason not to use it.
it would be a huge crutch in search and destroy
dead silence without an Awareness perk to counter it ruins snd
@@hxvok5676 yeah, that's because it's a one life mode. That's been true in every search and destroy in every cod. Except in mw3 where sitrep pro was so strong you could hear people across some maps walking.
The dead silence Field Upgrade serves only *one* purpose and that is simply this: to run to your preferred camping spot and sit out the rest of the game there.
Thanks for the great content.
Dead silence is good for people who are deaf or hard of hearing. Having footstep audio be so loud puts those people at a massive disadvantage, having dead silence adds a bit of balance.
Maybe make MW3's Sitrep Pro the field upgrade and swap Dead Silence to a perk? Having a limited-time use Dead Silence counter as a field upgrade seems like a decent compromise for those not satisfied with the "actually think while you play" counterplay that already exists.
This is actually a great idea! Would love to see something like that instead!
The fact that these devs don’t understand the fundamentals of COD balancing (although it’s barely balancing when it comes to certain things) is absolutely disheartening and worrying.
No they understand, they just choose not to follow it.
This was outright clear in the MW3 days where the community manager at the time Robert Bowling just said no Last Stand and screamed "F&#@ YOU FINAL STAND" right in front of everyone but the devs then put in the death streak version and doubled down with a C4 version that blew everyone up.
Thats how much they understand and refuse. There was an excellent video from BDobbinsFTW on how they hate high K/D players that explains it. Its fairly old but shocklingly relevant because it was based on CoD Ghosts really. A game that its fundamentals are in many ways near identical to MW2019 its actually shockling to me that game has any kind of a following for its core MP, non-Warzone version.
@@CmoIsDaNam3i the only people who liked MW19 were hardcore tryhards and camo hunters. Most who I knew only played SnD and that’s it. Like always, it’s a good game at its core but execution is horrible.
Great video as always Ace 👍
One important thing that you just very briefly touched on was the fact that audio cues are REAL TIME. A $60 headset will provide you with real time information about where someone is...
"up the stairs, on the wood floor in the left bedroom"
Whereas even a UAV (and other information related field upgrades or equipment) which is a EARNED killstreak provides location info with a delay.
The thing you just said about the skill gap is 100% the biggest problem I see with my teams. They have 0 clue on how to read the map, how to not group together, how to actually flank...... it's super frustrating
Hopefully there will be a perk to increase equipment recharge time because we know dead silence won't be a perk
THANK YOU for making this video. Literally argued every point you brought up in this video against the anti dead silence people in your comment section yesterday and they just could not understand the same valid points you brought up in this video that I was giving and instantly brought up how I needed dead silence because I was a bad player and needed it to sneak up on people lol. It really does need to be a perk 100% though, I literally can't enjoy my playstyle because I'm constantly punished from how loud my footsteps are.
These people argue like hearing is a skill set
SAME! Was gonna write basically the same comment until I saw yours. Smh @ these people talking about deadsilence being a crutch when they're the ones helplessly reliant on soundwhoring...
None of his points are valid. Dead silence is a worthless perk that youtubers like him want so they can dominate bot lobbies easier and won't have to worry about them hearing them rush up to the enemy.
Deadsilence is a sht perk that removes one of the most important environmental awareness things out there. While also forcing literally EVERYONE to use dead silence. Since no matter how good the other perks are. Nothing van ever compete with deadsilence. The lying cnta who claim there will be other perks to pick are deluding themselves or intentionally lying. You vant pick anything other than dead silence when everyone has it.
@@HavenMonahan yea dude and every anti dead silence kid claims to be top 5% with a 3+ k/d. I feel like they're all lying and spend the entire game camping 🤣
@@-Zelo FR. Tho hardcore soundwhoring is pretty close to wallhacks in this game (and in some ways superior bc also works on enemies behind you), so if you combine that w other soft exploits like camping a headglitch perch, reverse-boosting, dashboarding every time you're neg kd, etc. wouldn't be too tough to get a 3+k/d.
Its sad we have to fight/argue for core game designs that literally no one ever complained about or asked to be taken out
I just realized infinty ward has not have Dead Silence as a perk in a game since 2013, almost 10 years ago, really hope they are not thinking on copy paste what MW 2019 did
I’m cool with it being in multiplayer, and I’m super glad you mentioned how it wouldn’t work in warzone! Dead silence in warzone plagued that BR. If it was a perk in MWII, what do you think they would do when it transitioned over to WZ2? Take it out completely or balance it in some way?
Make perks lootable and not have Dead Silence in the perk loot pool
Some mw2019 perks work differently in Warzone, so I don't really see a problem with rebalancing perks and stuff
CoD added Awareness as a perk in earlier titles. This not only increased the audio of normal footsteps but also unmuted Dead Silence users (as far as I’ve heard). It even exists in Black Ops 2 and can be paired with Dead Silence for an arguably OP combo.
My question is why would they add such a perk in the first place and why did it persist for so long?
Awareness made you hear dead silence user’s footsteps however, your footsteps were still 60 to 70 percent silent so you really had to concentrate your ears to hear that player. I don’t understand why people don’t want a counter to dead silence. Just Imagine if thermite charges, Semtexs, exploding crossbows and Molotovs didn’t kill riot shield players. everyone but the riot shield player would be angry. (As a constant dead silence user, there has to be a counter to it, if there isn’t then there’s no reason to have it in the game) Old cods have always had something to counter everything but kept the perk or whatever you was using still relevant for the most part.
Thank you Ace for eloquently and simply debunking the "it's more tactical" argument. I love it.
The ttk point is one of the most important ones along with map design because if the ttk is very fast and the maps are unpredictable, sound becomes a crutch way more than a ninja perk ever could
Can’t have dead silence without amplified, eavesdrop or awareness. I’m happy you brought up those two perks. Seems like everyone keeps forgetting about it. If cod doesn’t add an actual direct counter perk to dead silence, I don’t even want it in the game. Hearing explosions and gunshots only gets boring and loses the purpose of even wearing the headset.
it loses the purpose of even wearing the headset? tell me you're average at best without telling me lol
@@R0x0r I’m definitely not average and I like the fact that you actually think Cod (an arcade shooter) takes skill to play lmao that’s actually tragic.
I think it is important to have the perk as an option, but having a counter for it should be equally important. Something like high alert could have that tacked on and now it goes from being a mediocre perk to a solid counter pick. Also since you brought up different movement like sliding I personally think dead silence should have no effect on tac sprinting, that way there is a real trade off for that boost of speed. Normal sprinting shouldn't be punished, but tac sprinting should if done at a poor time.
I agree 100% with you when it comes to arguments you pointed out.
Fantastic video
Modern Warfare 2: The CoD that’s supposed to cater to all play styles
Without dead silence. 😶
I’m fine with footstep dampening, in context of MW 2019, I would say it would need to be a red perk and reduce the range of footsteps by 3-5 meters. Its a really powerful tool if it’s unbalanced
You balance perks by not allowing other perks in the same spot, that simple. No need to make it so you have some advantage for sound whoring.
Your suggestion would not help at all really, since you’d still hear people running by if they’re in a building.
Agree
Not a word on peeker's advantage. Peeker's advantage exists even in Counter Strike 1.6, which has the loudest footsteps I know.
I think another problem with MW 2019 was that the weapon meta just catered specifically to campers. The 725 was the ultimate camper's paradise and it made pushing into rooms a death sentence. I'm on the side of bringing dead silence back for MW2, but ONLY if they 'dampen' footsteps and don't entirely mute footsteps. One of the strengths I think we can all agree on was SnD on MW 2019 was the best its been in years. I think having dead silence is too much of a crutch perk in newer cod SnDs and I would be totally fine with it being a field upgrade in that mode specifically.
I agree. Perks need an overhaul so there are genuine choices without crutches.
MW19 was a hotpot of poor decisions from map flow, messing with MM, doors, 725 and claymores, Ghost always on,zero recoil mounting. DS was the only real counter to this and they made it a field upgrade with a slow cooldown.
Who to believe? Just read a comment saying Search on MW19 was so bad since the audio gives you away. Since MW19 was my most hated COD, I'm siding with him.
I mean I agree it should be a perk, but you failed to mention peakers advantage, if you are sprinting, silent, and have peakers advantage, then you will when every time. (Camping is annoying but it is a viable strategy for a large group of people).
If dead silence wasnt in CoD it would be like playing with walls, i will always know where a nearby enemy is with map knowledge alone if i can hear you running. I hated CoD Ghosts at first but learned to slow down my pacing a bit and read the enemy's footsteps. i think i ended that year with a 4.6k/d and a 80% win ratio or something absurd just because i almost always could killstreak cycle. I could do it to some degree in CW but majority of people you get matched up with(new SBMM) run dead silence so i find myself getting ran up on from behind because i didnt hear them at all even with extra audio settings to boost ingame sound in my headphones.
I think if we do get dead silence back one drawback to it should be that it won't dampen your footsteps of you're using tac-sprint
They removed footstep countering perks because Activision wants a lower skill gap. They intentionally add random features to level the playing field so that bad players don’t quit and continue to buy bundles in the shop.
Very sad the devs are going back to DS being a field upgrade. I understand the argument that it makes search more tactical but at the same time, I don’t wanna sit in a corner until my Dead Silence is ready to pop.
Or u could just not run dead silence at all and just play the game in a way that other ppl can actually fight back
@@spacedout4061 Sorry I can’t help that they get out smarted.
@@jayewilliams5921 its not being outsmarted, its just shit game design
@@spacedout4061 so dead silence being a perk is shit game design?
@@jayewilliams5921 imo most perks have no business being in the game. Especially not one as unrealistic, illogical, and overpowered as dead silence
Having a dead silence PERK in mw 2019 would’ve taken that dumpster fire of a game up so much more. It’s also annoying when it’s so inconsistent. You either have it as a perk, or you don’t. I do want a dead silence perk back and if this years mw doesn’t have it the game is gonna be just as slow and frustrating
Sounds like you struggled
@@bladeclanhalo3 I’ll be honest I really did. I just couldn’t adjust to the game being slower but maybe it’s mainly a me problem.
@@El_Malanga02 play hq or hardpoint. Not slow at all
One of the most important voices in cod history. Excellent analysis of the importance of dead silence. Hopefully they listen and work in dead silence.
I don't mind dampening perks in any mode except SnD. It definitely think it is a crutch perk there, and it makes Search kinda braindead if everyone is just sprinting around with no fear until they run into someone ELSE doing the same thing and then they have a panic spray off. So if I had my way Ninja/DS could be in every mode except one-life ones. But having to choose the right time to go silent makes Search way more tactical and makes it more rewarding when you pull off a great push or flank with the Field Upgrade.
Let's be real anyone who doesn't want a silent footsteps perk just wants to sit in a corner with their headset cranked and get free info
Or plays tactical shooters where is always been a feature
Its just a crutch perk tho. Everyone will run it so whats the point. Anyone without it will just be easily killed and anyone with it will be impossible to hear coming. Its just lame
REALISM MATE. Try running and sprinting around your house and tell me if you hear no footsteps
@@spacedout4061 Tune Up was a crutch perk in MW19 so it had the same outcome on variety. If it’s in a category with ghost, flak jacket, overkill, and other strong perks it won’t be a crutch.
@@vengeanceau call of duty has never been about realism...
COD devs, please watch this. Not including a footstep sound dampening perk is an automatic L.
As long as you cant equip dead silence and Awareness at the same time dead silence can be balanced.
It's ironic but as a more tactical player who likes power positions, discouraging rushers is also takes away from my enjoyment of the game. My favorite part of the game is outmaneuvering people trying to flank my team.
Really hope they add it as a perk, one of the main reasons why MW19 was ass
it was the clogs on the feet that did it. It wouldn't have mattered if soldiers didn't sound like elephants.
Remember when headset manufacturers made headset exclusively around hearing dead silence footsteps?
Yeah, that’s totally not because dead silence is a crutch that high end headset users abuse over the casual players
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Clearly someones a dumby and didnt watch the whope video.
If you died to someone because you didnt hear footstep audio and them running toward you, you deserve to die.
Pay attention to gunfire around you, learn your minimap, pay attention to where your team is, pay attention to where your teammates are FACING to see what angles thry are covering, learn the spawns, use claymores or bouncing betty explosives to cover flanks.
Get better.
In a SMALL 6v6 map based game with 3 lanes of coverage, if you die its on YOU.
Headset audio is a MUST in 2022. It costs like $30 to get a decent headset to hear game audio better.
Stop making EXCUSES for being bad and either get good with the tools you have or just shut up, play casually, and enjoy the game.
So sorry youre not an amazing cod player overnight! if you want to BE BETTER, put the time in and get better then.
Simple.
You hit the nail on the head there Ace. A great video explaining exactly my thoughts on the need for a dead silence perk. As a flanking player myself, my play style has been completely nerfed by not having it as an option. I really hope the devs are considering bringing it back, but as with other changes such as SBMM and disbanding lobbies, I'm not too hopeful!
Completely agree with you, Ace!
THANK YOU. The last video caused quite a stir and I'm glad you're addressing this. It NEEDS to be a perk and you can't convince me otherwise.
MwII will be just as big of a failure as vanguard because they’re already tone deaf to the complaints people who actually play the game consistently. Plus the beta is just the game released early.
If you're playing the game consistently, they don't think it's a big deal because it hasn't stopped you from playing.
@@Parker-- not entirely true. Just because you play consistently doesn’t mean it’s not a problem that’s needs resolved. If you have an issue at work you don’t just quit you tell the people in charge there’s an issue. Then if you have told them and they fall on deaf as it has been for several years now then you quit.
@@dystopia3300 No, that's not what I argued. My statement wasn't that it isn't a problem. My statement was that it is a problem that was clearly not enough to prevent you from playing further since you continued to play, and since you didn't deem it enough to stop you from playing, the developers then decided that it is not a big enough issue to change because it wasn't preventing you from playing.
No, you quit playing and then tell them why you quit playing. That's when they listen. It didn't fall on deaf ears. It was shouted by a hollow voice.
@@Parker-- I stopped playing cod a couple years ago but still keep up with things hoping they'll get better also before you make an accusation please ensure you have all details correct. now since that was addressed I can see your point and while you make a valid point in that our voice is hollow. I believe we can both be correct and have our concerns heard. Stop buying from the store and that should cause a few ruffles on the quarterly reports possibly anger investors and cause them to listen to their playerbase.
@@dystopia3300 lol OK well then you postured yourself as if you did play which makes you even more ridiculous. lol like wtf are you trying to prove by pretending?
Your voice only means something if you take action. If you stopped playing then openly bitched at them to fix it so you can play again, then you have done something worthwhile and honestly that's all you can do.
Keep it as a perk, and it can be countered with the field mic. Keep the HB sensor, but, restrict how long it lasts, perhaps make batteries a pickup for the HB sensor, to help scrape campers out of the corners.
I don't want dead silence in Warzone though. I agree for multiplayer
clearly didn't watch the whole video lol
It’s not realistic 🤓🤓🤓 MW19 fanboys
I dont understand the obsession of the cod community to silence footsteps. No other game needs it, why does cod? Its cheesy as fuck.
Hearing isnt a skill? Then so is using my eyes - why not darken the screen of opponents with a perk?
100% STRONGLY agree with you that it needs to be a permanent option as a perk, not just a field upgrade.
There would have to be a counter and then what do you think everyone would be using those two f****** perks only.
@@zkilla4611 exactly this. I've already seen arguments to not have a counter perk which is hilarious and revealing. Basically they want an op perk with zero counter play.
@@pixelslaughter3492 Anyone who argued to not have a counter is a BOT or they don't use a headset so they think they should get an advantage.
I'm genuinely curious if they could even make the changes to bring dead silence in as a perk in time for launch? I feel like it's pretty much too late at this point to make that kind of change this far into the development cycle.
Vanguard added it during the beta. It’s definitely possible
@@TheXclusiveAce Oooo good to know. Hopefully they're paying attention to your videos because you brought up all the reasons it belongs in the game perfectly.
@@TheXclusiveAce If it's not a perk, could the footstep audio and dead silence be tweaked so that it recharges faster or last longer so it similarly effective, or at least not as big of an issue?
@@TheXclusiveAce j have had a message saying I won a prize. I have contacted you on Telegram. Can you please confirm or deny whether this is legit or not please.
This was one of the most used perk I used in past CoD... and was sad this was actually limited time use, and require charging on MW reboot...
Very nice and well explained argument, I now agree that dead silence/ninja should be a perk with/instead of a field upgrade. The developers still have a few months so I hope they listen to this feedback.
As you were speaking about counter play to dead silence I was thinking maybe they can add a tactical that would allow the player get a audio cue when crossed like a trip alarm or proximity alarm. Just a thought.
RIP multiplayer if dead silence, some form of it, or very quiet footsteps aren't there. You just can't have elephant footsteps in CoD and expect people to move around, which is when CoD mp is at its best.
hey TheXclusiveAce, I sure hope you see this comment as well as other people I interacted with on your last video. Firstly, thank you very much for taking to the time to address this topic with great detail AND class. Suffice it to say I was a keyboard warrior for the "get rid of dead silence/ninja entirely" group in the comment section of your last video, but have completely flipped after watching this video to the end. Looking back now, I think my jaded and shallow perspective came from my playing of only SnD on MW19 mainly as of late. I kinda threw out my experiences from previous CODs and even all my time on MW19 Domination and Hardpoint. Your points are SO fair for respawn game modes and I agree with all 3 completely. It was funny because by 10:19 I was like "dang it, I'm agreeing with him >:(" lol! Even held out for the counterpoint about balancing footstep audio but once you addressed it, I had to agree there too. Especially about how you said my perfect footstep audio balance might not be yours, so it's better to have the option. What got me really excited in this video was the part about the perk pool that dead silence could be in! I love to imagine a rock paper scissors effect in each perk group in relation to the game mechanics they affect, pretty much like you said there could be Dead Silence, Ghost, EOD, maybe Double Time/Marathon too. That would be a really cool way to balance it. I appreciate you putting in the effort to offer ideas and compromises throughout this video, it is really well done. I hope nothing was taken personally from my near tirade on the last video's comment section as I love your videos and look forward to your content and takes! Thanks :)
It’s such a crucial perk that’s integral to having a good COD game but IW’s head is so stuck up their ass that they don’t get it. The perks from MWII leaked and guess which perk wasn’t in that leak, Dead Silence. If MW19 had Dead Silence as an actual perk, not some stupid field upgrade, that game would’ve been INFINITELY better and way more fun. I’m hoping the same thing that happened last year with Vanguard’s beta happens again this year with MWII. No Dead Silence perk in the beta, community rightfully complains, Ninja gets added into the full game at launch. Unless the footstep audio is drastically lower than MW, MWII without a Dead Silence perk will once again be a campfest and will punish people for being aggressive and playing COD how it’s always been played.
As long as they add a perk to hear dead silence footsteps.
I'm praying for Dead Silence as a perk 🙏
Ace, I am curious, if offered the opportunity to consult on or participate in some way in the development of future COD games, is that something you’d be open to? I feel like these dev teams need players that not only play their game but can also understand the fundamentals of game design for both good and average/bad players as it pertains to COD style gameplay specifically.
*I agree with you, and sadly the point is that checkers can be sold to a wider audience.*
Dead silence in COD mobile is a very good example on how it should work. If equip, the footstep within 13 meters is slightly audible so having a good ear/headphones is a must. Outside on the said range, footsteps while sprinting and sliding is completely silence so you can move around freely.
I would like to see an experiment with dead silence as a perk - rather than silencing footsteps, what if it reduces footstep propagation, making your footsteps inaudible through walls/floors, and quieter at distances, but still fully audible when within line of sight and near enough to the player. so you cant literally run up behind someone and be completely unheard, but you can't be heard rotating around them in other rooms, still necessitating UAV and portable radars to give away your position through walls and cover.
"line of sight" in this case being an uninterrupted line directly between the two players, not literal visibility.
I had argument the other day with a dude in the comments saying that if ninja a dead silence is not a perk I'm not playing this crap because the game was super campy and people hid in corners behind a indestructible door made by nasa dude was delusional saying the game wasn't thst camping dude was delusional mw 19 was garbage to play idk how people defend this game 🤦♂️
Having the option for dead silence/ ninja is an absolute must. However, the developers need to get the proper audio for footsteps correct, it won’t be perfect for everyone but you are correct there were some games where it wasn’t a crutch perk. The only time it should be a crutch perk is for game modes like Search & Destroy which suffered greatly from this oversight in MW19
If dead silence isn't a perk and the minimap doesn't work correctly again, there's just no way I can buy this game
Not surprised that almost everyone posting a comment agrees with you Ace, as do I, and I know that almost every single other long term content creator does also.
But the fact we have seen so many leaks that don’t mention a DS perk AND the fact they are basically doing a copy paste of the perks from MW19 AND MW 19 was so successful, my fear is the footstep audio will be almost as loud in MW22 and DS will indeed only be a field upgrade.
I really hope I’m wrong but we shall soon see.
Quite footsteps are ok, but zero footsteps when someone is tac sprinting is bs.
Agreed, just turn it off for tac sprint