Mother, sister of Joaquin Oliver, who died in Parkland shooting, shocked that death penalty was not
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2022
- Patricia Oliver said the verdict is a disservice to the family of those that died and the Parkland community as a whole.
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The defendant won. He said what his goal was and his wish to torment the parents and relatives was fulfilled today. He did fall short of the death count he wanted. I hope they do not have a banquet dinner to celebrate the defendants success.
he wanted to die and that's not what he got now he gets to rot in his own festering thoughts with no outlets but implosion
Yeah he won today. This is what he wanted. Torment them as long as possible. And now they will never be at peace and he took years of their lives in the courtroom.
He didn't want to die. He wanted to make the victims suffer and he achieved that today.
To those of you who think he wanted to die quit being a fool. He ran out of the school that day. His reverse psychology sure worked on you.
@@Yyyyyy5 so with your logic he premeditated the verdict? him saying he deserved the death penalty wasnt him wanting to die because one juror voted no?
I’m so sorry to the families that justice wasn’t served. He should have been given the chair no questions asked.
He’d probably pick the 💉 over the 🪑 lol I know I would
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty.
@@hank35682 I think the chair has been outdated for a while lol.
But if he doesn’t get DP, I hope there’s a guard out there that just might accidentally leave his cell open or something.
The firing squad
I said that at first, BUT I think the chair would’ve been the easy way out. Now he can literally rot in hell and suffer.
This is devastating. I watched their testimonies and they absolutely broke me. Completely.
I can't begin to imagine what they're going through. I have a lump in my throat as I type this.
Justice hasn't been served at all. It's just ridiculous.
My heart goes out to these two amazing ladies. They deserve so much love, respect and justice.
..I don't even know what to say really :( it's beyond words. Beyond anything I can ever say.
shut up.
you got cancer bud. you gotta go get that lump looked at by doctor fast!!!!
I feel the same as you! Your words are mine as well
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty.
Joaquin Oliver was a beautiful young man. I am so sorry. My heart breaks for all the families. The story of this young man, his beautiful girlfriend and his family touched my heart. God bless you all.
What does how he looks have to do with anything? What if he weren't beautiful?
@@ManuelSteiner reaching far looking for something that isn't there. Doesn't always mean outward only.
Yes, I agree. He was absolutely beautiful. RIP.
@@ManuelSteiner the beauty of life, child. not the physical appearance. the beauty of children, the beauty of life, the beauty of growth and prosper. every young soul is beautiful in one way or another, that's what we mean by that. youre the only one who took it as strictly looks
@@ManuelSteiner They wouldnt care
mother was incredibly well spoken.
This is sick. If this was a dog, he’d be put down and his head would get cut off to check for rabies. I’m so sorry for all these families. You were let down 😢
You sound like you need to be checked for rabies….
I feel like the juror and the defense attorney and the juror should be given a sentence as well. So gross!!!!
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty. You realy believe 5 humans executing one human being is not murder? You distinct between good and bad murder? These people who execute others as a job and get payed for it by the state are even ten times more evil than Nikolas- Only very sick nations have school shooters and the death penalty and believe in guns and war. The USA!
A dog ??? Is that a higher standard ?
@@Nonowness God said You shall not murder. When God or the approved entities enact just retribution for the sin of murder, it is not considered murder, but a killing of a murderer. It sounds like you're trolling but I wanted to give a clear explanation.
This is beyond disgusting. I don’t understand why they wasted the courts time with this. He was already in prison over these past couple years and he was a menace even still. He has no remorse. He’s wasting resources in prison for nothing. He is not worth rehabilitation. He should face the fear of his life no longer being in his hands just like his victims had to face that fear. Shame on the court.
I agree, he wanted to instil fear in his victims and he should also face that same fear. It is only fair that way
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty.
Indeed 😊
Well said
Rotting in jail is so much worse than dying painlessly.
I am so sorry for the loss of your handsome son! I can only imagine that today's verdict was heart wrenching! I pray God peace and comfort surround you today!
If this isn’t the most Florida thing to ever happen I don’t know what is.
@@vik5303 I’m from Cali & I’m pissed at this verdict. This juror needs to be charged for perjury for being dishonest about their ability to objectively consider the death penalty.
“This is the most Florida thing ever” says someone who’s not even from Florida
@@Relaxedjack Florida let Casey Anthony walk and now they're letting this monster live. So, yea, kinda pissed with Florida.
@UCOxMD0E8E-arAW3SqTiBgDQ You are obviously not a conservative
You guys are acting like he’s getting released from jail
This is absolutely ridiculous how do you just give a life sentence after killing 17 people and you have the opportunity for the death penalty. Literally what do you have to do in Florida to get the death penalty? Because it seems like the jury went into there religious beliefs and sorrow for a serial killer and decided to give him life instead of death. I’m so so sorry to all of the victims and toward there family’s. The justice system has once again done us wrong and I’m sorry this monster has to live. R.I.P too all of the people that lost there lives that Valentine’s Day in 2018, may you rest in peace and I’m sorry we couldn’t get any of y’all Justice this is so wrong I’m so sick to my stomach. This is gonna show other crazy/mentally ill kids that your literally just gonna get life in prison after killing over 15 people what is wrong with our Society?!
What you have to do?! Be black
At least he’ll spend the rest of his life in a cage
All you have to do is take a Leo life to get the death penalty.sad but true.florida sucks
it falls on the 1 juror that voted for life. I hope their life is hell.
@@anitakristensen4679 maybe that person didn’t want death on their conscience, even if that person is truly disgusting and evil
I knew this was going to be the verdict. I knew it. It's unfathomable. I'm truly sorry for your pain, unless one walks in your shoes no one will understand the rage. I pray for your peace, strength and healing. RIP to ALL the souls departed. So sad.
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty.
Your speech is powerful ❤️😭🙏🏼
If I were in their shoes, I don’t think I could cope with this verdict. Those two women are far stronger than I am.
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty. You realy believe 5 humans executing one human being is not murder? You distinct between good and bad murder? These people who execute others as a job and get payed for it by the state are even ten times more evil than Nikolas-
I bet you're stronger than you realize
Absolutely heart breaking. To go through such hell & pain for more than 4 years to reach a verdict like today - I dont have any words. The families and loved ones lifes changed forever and will NEVER be the same again. I'm in pain for them. May you all find the strength to carry on and heal. We are all devastating by the outcome of this.😢 Much love from South Africa.
I have enormous respect for this lady. After such a long nerve wrecking trial and so many emotions Joaquin's mother reacts with so much wisdom and dignity.
I watched the whole case and the prosecution was stellar. They dismantled the defense completely.
Exactly and that's what the jurors should've went by.
Dont agree, the defense acted like heartless, calculating robots and their agenda to spread hate and anger in the jury was clear to see, they tried everything to provoke hate and spite and vengance. The defense on the contrary, mostly women fought for his life with all their heart, with empathy and emotions and human qualities won over at the end. I found the prosecution disgusting. They earn millions with the death penalty. Dont be naive, their wittness did get 400 Dollar per hour to testify against Nikolas, they were all bought.Adeath verdict should never just come from a mental state, ethical reasons, inner guidance and empathy must be part of the decision too.
True. So very sorry for all your pain. You suffered unimaginable losses, endured this lengthy, traumatic trial and then this.
WHERE ARE THIS COUNTRY'S MORALS WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN?
Unfortunately long gone.
Well may be if you start with not selling teenagers guns then less kids would die.
@@redmoon8217 I agree ☝️
At least one jury did. They protected this kid who was abused and r**** as a child from a bunch of sick blood thirty vengeful Americans. God bless them.
@@redmoon8217 careful the RUclips comment section doesn’t appreciate intelligent ppl like you…. Don’t you know if every kid in that school had a gun they could’ve defended themselves??? The solution to these ppl is more guns and more murder.
Absolutely heartbreaking. I hope they put him in the toughest prison and the inmates make his life a living hell.
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty. You realy believe 5 humans executing one human being is not murder? You distinct between good and bad murder? These people who execute others as a job and get payed for it by the state are even ten times more evil than Nikolas-
I’m disgusted. Those 14 sweet, beautiful kids and 3 brave teachers are never to be seen again. No more words.
I'm so disgusted that justice was not served properly for the families that still endure the pain and suffering of having lost a loved one.
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty. You realy believe 5 humans executing one human being is not murder? You distinct between good and bad murder? These people who execute others as a job and get payed for it by the state are even ten times more evil than Nikolas-
God bless this family 😔🙏💔 My heart is so broken for them.
Shame on this f****** jury that gave this monster life in prison. No sympathy or empathy for the suffering families or the dignity of these victims; who deserve justice. A life for a life.
So much love to Joaquin’s family and friends, he was so amazingly beautiful!!! His mom is so right. 😘
I'm glad she kept saying "the defendant." Stop giving him what he wanted, infamy. Stop saying his name.
you sound as if you are as sick and hateful as he is...
Well said ladies. When if not now. He won. Again. He is laughing all the way to the bank. I hope he gets his justice in prison. Someone will get him. Well said mama.
The pain in the Mother’s face makes me sad and angry.
Florida prisons are among the toughest in the country.The guards,convicts,and staff have children.They will stand in line to punish this individual
You ever heard of protective custody.
yeah, the inmates will torture him more than the chair(which is not even used anymore) ever could
@@ben10yu the inmates in p.c. also have children,the opportunity will arise.
Both statements by both people were spot on
Death is not easier than life!!! He is more than capable of living a fulfilling life in prison. It’s obviously not an ideal environment but humans can and do adapt and find ways to create and feel happiness in their lives even when incarcerated for life. The jury gave him that chance and it is infuriating.
you realize that probably all the prisoners know who he is. if you know anything about US prison you would know that prisoners torture and make prison hell for sex offenders and people that harm defenseless women and children.
I really feel for these families im in canada our courts are so lenient on criminals that crime is escalating with young kids .hugs and love from canada ❤🇨🇦
I am so sorry to the families that had to endure so much pain over the years and relive this daily before, during and now after the testimonies and evidence presented. How hard it must have been to have to listen to all of that in the courtroom and spend so much more of their time on this that should have not even been in question in the first place. Like someone else here said he should have been sentenced to death no questions asked. What this mother and daughter said could not have been said any better and more true. We need to do better and receive proper justice for all these families🙏❤️
very strong words from all the families
Truly a sad day in Florida this afternoon. The families of the victims had a chance to receive some form of justice today, only to see it ripped away and leave them once again asking “why?”. Then seeing the families afterwards have to field questions and essentially relive the pain all over again…it’s tragic. I pray they find peace through all of this 🙏🏻
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty. You realy believe 5 humans executing one human being is not murder? You distinct between good and bad murder? These people who execute others as a job and get payed for it by the state are even ten times more evil than Nikolas-
The nation is shocked and grieves with all of you.
Heartbreaking.
So sorry for your loss and the pain the verdict has caused
Beyond sad!!! This young man Joaquin was so handsome!! and a life taken away way too soon! Thoughts and prayers are with all the families! Justice will prevail for them either way! God watch over all these broken hearted families!! 🙏🙏🙏
I'm from England all I can say is WOW
i hope these families can find peace. i don’t agree with the death penalty but i have to agree, if not for this.. then why even have it anymore?
I am so so sorry ....
It’s especially heartbreaking how Joaquin died, if the bathroom wasn’t locked he could’ve hid in there. The autopsy stated that he had his hand over his face to protect himself when he was shot.
Peter Wang got it the worse, shot 4 times in the head and shot 13 times all together and nik even spoken how Peter's head blew up like a water balloon bursting.
Ugh that really sucks. Just an unfair way to go.
Joaquín was so handsome! I could imagine how he would like right now at 21-22. 🥰😍😘-- Rest in heaven baby boy.
Everyone is not thinking rationally. By getting him life in prison is so much worse. He will have to wake up and face the memories and the ways he killed all the victims. He even said he would prefer a peaceful death over life in prison due to the fact being, how his actions are mentally torturing him day by day. There is not much to do in prison besides one thing, which is time. You have endless time to think and regret your actions. That will be his ultimate punishment. He will have to face his demons until the day his rotten soul decides to leave this earth. When he does, I hope he burns in hell.
When at least one person on the jury doesn't believe in the death sentence, injustices like this occur. That one person who does not believe cannot be swayed, and the verdict is cemented from the very beginning. Since this was only a recommendation by the jury, could the judge still sentence the monster to death?
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty. You realy believe 5 humans executing one human being is not murder? You distinct between good and bad murder? These people who execute others as a job and get payed for it by the state are even ten times more evil than Nikolas-
Not only that but the parents are paying to keep him alive. Feeding him 3 meals a day, free utilities and medical. Talk about injustice.
Heartbreaking!!
No person should bury a child or a loved one, as happened in this extremely unnecessary instance. I have a lot of sympathy for their respective situations.
I find it just extremely sad to see how much hatred the families carry. I would suggest that it is detrimental to their own Mental Health that this hatred has built up over a period over more than 4 years and seems to be continuing to grow.
Time has perhaps come for acceptance (of death that unfortunately cannot be reversed), hatred to subside and forgiveness to be given in an attempt to concentrate on future wellbeing and closure.
All families had opportunities to make wonderful memories with their loved ones and I hope that those memories will in time dry all tears and bring calmness.
Your family members came from privileged upbringing and yet never befriended anyone like Nikolas, because he was "stupid" and "below" them. I therefore urge parents to stop concentrating on wanting the death penalty imposed - Rather help the much larger problems, such as: (1) Mental Health training for both teachers and scholars, including early warning signs; and (2) stricter and safer gun laws. That would be much more positive time and effort well spent as a legacy for your loved ones.
I have watched this whole trial and this verdict is the most disgusting and hateful thing that could have been done to these poor families. The jurors responsible for it should be prosecuted for perjury and the trial should be null and void. The jurors who voted to save this monster's life are going to be the cause of many more deaths. They will be as guilty of those future murders as the murderer will be. I hope they thought about that and the fact that it could be one of their family members next time. Those jurors will reap what they have sown. Hopefully those jurors will never get another good night's rest. I feel so sick and angry for those families. Where I live we have executed several people over the last 30 years and they were only guilty of killing one or two people. How can that punk kill 17 people and get life?????? HE IS NOT MENTALLY ILL...HE IS AN EVIL DEMON WHO DESERVES TO BE SENT BACK TO HELL WHERE HE CAME FROM!
So on one hand if you don't give people the death penalty it will let people know it's ok to kill. But on the other had it's no deterrent because the state where they have the death penalty is where you have the most shooting. Its something your country is doing because there are countries that don't have the death penalty and they also don't let general public have guns and there are hardly any shootings. So go figure!
you don’t know how US prison works and it shows very clearly.
So devastating to the families that lost a child, a sibling in this heinous crime. I feel the disgust and anger of each parent! Cruz will now go on and completely adjust to prison life and theses families will always have to live with the pain of loss and disgust!
The killer only deserves Death penalty 😮 Please! If it's not, there will be more killers
You know what is maddening? Alienne wornos was put to death in Florida. She killed 7 men but also said she was abused as a child. Had a horrible childhood. Jury sure didn't cut her any slack. So what was different about her case? Make me understand. 🤔
I keep praying for all the family keep your faith faith
Come of prison system please put this dude in general population at 3 am
This is incredibly painful
I hope the jury members that made this disgusting choice feel the weight of their actions and I hope the pain they have caused haunts them for the rest of their lives. I hope every time they try to sleep they remember the disservice they were apart of. They helped satisfy and fulfil the killer's hopes to watch the families suffer. He killed, he ruined and he gets to live. 17 people for one person. He will never be punished, and the three jury members are okay with that.
What a horrible thing to say, that would have been such a difficult thing to have decided. They probably knew that they would be hated but they have done what they believed to be right. If the death penalty worked and was a deterrent you wouldn't have the most killings in the states that have it. But it doesn't work, what stops these kids from being killed is not selling guns to mentally ill teenagers.
Hey Mary Adam. Respect the U.S justice system. Shame on you for speaking like your opinion/ decisions are better than the chosen jury. Maybe that is why you didn’t get jury duty. Reckless women. Where’s your husband
you’re no better for shaming people for standing up for their beliefs and for what they think is right.
@@chip23worldwide49 where is your husband?
@@jocelynhunter2359 yeah. Sit her ass down basically
BEST WORDS I HAVE EVER HEARD.
Absolutely disgusting. Hopefully that piece of crap gets what's coming to him in prison. Hopefully a another inmate has the courage to do what this sorry excuse for a justice system didn't. And give these families some assemblance of closure. What a miscarriage of justice.
Much love for the families. You didn't get all of justice served yet he will never get out of jail. That is some justice.
We’re devastated for you 😔
Poland pray for all families ... a very sad day :(
I truly hope another prisoner gives these families the true justice they deserve.
I m so sorry for what you are experiencing , i can t imagine living with all that ,may god help you
100% Agreed. What an injustice! So sad.
I wish them all the best from my heart!
that 1 juror that kept the death penalty from happening should leave the country as fast as she can
Poor people. I’m so sorry. 💔
That mom is heart broken so incredibly sad.
Am so sorry it’s very painful 😭😭😭😭😭
Clearly an activist Juror…
Can they appeal it
The prosecutors did a great job they couldn't do better. But justice right now is not justice and we can see with this verdict. Poor family members suffering for many years to see this resulted. Be strong God is going to give you the victory at the end.
Joaquin mom is so emotional and mentally draining you can just tell in her eyes but thank god his sister was there by her mom side she made sure her mama was there strong god blessed this young woman, I know she suffering from losing her brother
I am so sorry.
Bless the mom and Joaquin sister wise words
He might be in jail for the rest of of his life but when he comes across a big man who would want to talk to him about it and then he will have to watch his back because he might be dead by someone who has watched it on the tv and he will get what you're piece
They are both so beautiful inside out and Joaquin was beautiful as well. So so sad what this mother and his sister have to go through for the rest of their lives. I pray God gives them peace. You are heard mama. We hear you. Joaquin is king always and for ever. 👑
There is no justice either way. Soo sad for all of them. Society needs to do better in helping people with mental disabilities so horrific killings like this don't happen again. Just awful.
So true. I live in Poland, where there is no death penalty and I can't imagine choosing to kill, even a monster.
Society treats people who are different than normal like crap. I'm on the spectrum myself and have been ostracized my whole life. I never killed anyone thankfully but as you can see many people do.
@@katczu an eye for an eye.
Wisdom, very great mom.
Shocking.
This was the best speech, she is right , beautiful family, so sad
Amen young lady
Poor woman looks so drained. 😥
The comment section shows clearly what a sick idea of justice americans have. They want a jury to decide, but then when the jury is brave enough to follow their inner guidance instead of their pressure to crawl to their will suddenly the jury is blamed and spit on. So disgusting.
So much additional pain caused by one juror.
These poor families my heart is broken ….cowardly jury justice not served
I hope that one juror is happy carrying the guilt of being unjust. This is beyond disgusting
God decided that Nikolas should live and all the others who want to see him executed are at the end not better than him. He never had a chance, now god has given mercy through a gracious and brave juror. This juror will be forever blessed. Only very sick asocial nations believe in the death penalty. You realy believe 5 humans executing one human being is not murder? You distinct between good and bad murder? These people who execute others as a job and get payed for it by the state are even ten times more evil than Nikolas- who is adisabled, troubled mentally ill human being.
Going after the jury is not the right path towards "peace", sorry but the verdict wasn't for the families. If the verdict was for them, there wouldn't have been justice.
Totally agree.
Prosecution weren't great. Put me to sleep. Needed a fresher lawyer. Not a retirement gift.
Increíble una vez más no hubo justicia para para las víctimas y sus familia, si asco me da el asesino más asco me da el equipo de abogados y peor el jurado dios ponga su mano y no los alcance el Karma y le pasé algo así a uno de sus hijos.
Hopefully the inmates will deliver the justice to him that the jurors failed to do ...
Well, it's not too late. The parents can deliver justice in November when they have the sentencing hearing.
I'm losing faith in America. It's really sad. The people are so lost its unreal. God help us all. God help these families
So sad!!! 😢
of utmost value to appreciate the kind of work prosecutors do to protect the rights and lives of every citizen and beyond
He held his gun to innocent people’s chest and killed him yet he gets sparred death?! Disgusting
Such a great statement. Her passion and poise. It’s honorable. And listening to Juaquin’s sister and dad as well , wow what a strong family . I wish I could have met Juaquin. I’m sure he was a great young man
No death damn that's sad
This waz a horrible outcome smh