I saw pictures of Joaquin and he was just as as beautiful as his mother and his sister. Seeing the pain in their eyes, especially the mother's, sends shockwaves through me. I wish from the absolute rock bottom of my heart that they are able to find peace again and I know that is what their son and brother would want. ❤️
I am SICK and tired to the BONE of PERPETRATORS being deemed as a victim!! He CHOSE hatred , and the jury showed compassion to the MURDERER and not to the real victims. May God give you peace ❤
How is spending the rest of your life in prison deprived of your freedoms and privacy in a 20 hour a day cell getting off easy ? Even if he got the death penalty, it would take many years more so than not
I was shock and to find out that Nikolas Cruz life in prison without possibility of parole. I was very surprise that one jury member voted against death penalty.
@@jenniferlaw7656 Unfortunately even here in Florida where we do still have the death penalty for capital crimes it has to be a unanamous decision by the jury to invoke the death penalty.
Absolutely outrageous there was one holdout juror that would not agree to the death penalty. That person should feel great guilt for not providing justice. The monster knew what he was doing was wrong. End of story.
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
I am STUNNED that he didn’t get the death penalty. I feel so bad for the victims and their loved ones who were completely let down by the justice system. The defense team used guilt trips to get what they wanted: life in prison for as these women correctly say “this piece of garbage”
I'm not stunned he didn't get the death penalty because what the victims love ones want is not justice its revenge and revenge don't taste so sweet. P.s if they had said he gets the death penalty and when the time came and he was put to death they still will be angry because their love ones are still dead. The only way to get rid of the angry is to forgive.
Juror Melody Vanoy is tremendously unintelligent. The reason she voted against the death penalty is because she heard a juror say 'we need to set a precedent for the state of Florida". The guidance given to the jurors was that such a factor shouldn't be considered That's the reason she, and Denise Cunha, saved Cruz and set the stage for the next mass shooting It's sickening
@@sweetreny1155 What really gets my “blood boiling” is the day BEFORE and up to the moment he went on this massacre rampage - he video’d WHAT he was going to do, WHERE he would it and . He didn’t just “snap” and who is this “angie” he mentioned in the video. Just bcz he had an axe to grind about life, he had no right to do what he did. PRE-meditated, cold, calculated murder spree. No feeling, No heart. Strap your boots on bcz we have NOT heard the last of ppl doing these kinds of things. satan and his hordes are busy bcz they KNOW they their days are numbered. Personally, I think America is under a judgement if sort already...and it is going to get worse.
@@Duciousness That wasn't the problem. Juror Melody Vanoy is tremendously unintelligent. The reason she voted against the death penalty is because she heard a juror say 'we need to set a precedent for the state of Florida". The guidance given to the jurors was that such a factor shouldn't be considered That's the reason she, and Denise Cunha, saved Cruz and set the stage for the next mass shooting It's sickening
@@opossumfpv You know what's bothering me the most? The fact that you're out here naming jurors like it's a game to you. What's sickening to me is you're doxxing people because the case hasn't come to the favoured conclusion. You're now criticizing the jurors and going on hearsay? You're a freaking psycho IMHO. The law was followed here and just because it didn't come to the conclusion that you wanted doesn't mean you can now go around pointing the finger like you're some great RUclips judge.
What a strong group of women. Joaquin would be proud. I do believe in karma and trust that the shooter will get exactly what he deserves....one day. Maybe not today, but soon. My prayers are with all of the families and victims.
yes really strong bcs psychopaths are strong. Joaquin tough guy oliver and emma gonzales and all those psycopaths bullies have the blame of this tragedy
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
The Constitution never names victims, so ya that is correct. That being said the system worked the way it was designed. Your bitter and vindictive heart wanted revenge. I pray Jesus cures your angry vindictive heart and replaces that anger and vindictiveness with compassion and mercy.
@@louiehernandez4741 I''m not bitter or vindictive. Yes I am angry that seventeen people were murdered for no reason and that this remorseless mass murder gets to live on while his victims are dead and the families are left to suffer. Also, I could never feel compassion or mercy for someone who kills people in cold blood just for the Hell of it. But that's me, you do you.
I'm so sorry for the families to be victimized again. Shame on the jury and the court system. God bless the families and I pray they can try to find peace in their hearts.
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
@@joshuamarx9547 Stop talking out your anus. You don't work in the criminal justice system and are speaking like this because your fragile ego and vindictive heart are bitter. Name every advantage that a criminal defendant has. The system worked the way it was designed. I pray Jesus cures your angry vindictive heart and replaces that anger and vindictiveness with compassion and mercy.
@@Sam-fp8zm The killer pleaded guilty to all 17 murders last October. Florida is a state that has the Death Penalty as an option. The Prosecutors decided to pursue the Death Penalty. So, they held this penalty phase Death Penalty Trial. To determine whether the killer would be given the death penalty, or would be sentenced to life in prison with no parole instead. In Florida, in order for someone to be sentenced to death it has to be a unanimous decision by the jury. Meaning all 12 jurors have to agree to sentence the defendant to death. In this case, I read that one juror refused to give him the death penalty. So, because it was not unanimous, the killer has been sentenced to life in prison instead.
Both women were amazing- but I cried at the moms testimony. She is trying to move forward, to find happiness again, but every single day she spends without Joaquin is another day Cruz continues to hurt her. While he sits in a cell with an iPad drawing guns and wishing he could commit another mass shooting- she still suffers every, single, day. He can move on now, they can’t 😔
This boys whole family and his girlfriend is truly amazing. You can tell this young man was raised around love and raised by amazing parents. With how well spoken his father, mother, sister, and girlfriend is I truly believe that he was well spoken, very intelligent, very kind, very loving, and wonderful because his whole family including his girlfriend is this same way. I pray they each find peace and happiness because they truly deserve it and they did not deserve what they had to deal with during the trial.
@@charlesciminera5881 not the justice families wanted and deserved. I know they can’t decide. Doesn’t matter, they’re unsatisfied and rightfully so. They have a great point about the death penalty. If not now then when??
Justice not being served would be him getting off Scott free but that’s clearly not the case. You wanna talk about injustices, look at Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson. Same with Emmitt Till. Their murderers were acquitted and walked free
This breaks my heart in two. I love these two strong women. I am so sorry for your loss and so sorry for the ridiculous, unforgivable outcome of this trial. My heart breaks.
Joaquin is the name of my husband and my older son, Joaquin Oliver was a beautifully young men. This women mom and sister are so strong! My heart ♥️ goes for them and Joaquin’s dad.
Didn't the juror or jurors lie about being able to vote pro-death penalty when being questioned to get on the jury in the first place?! Pergery to me...misrepresentation of your true beliefs under oath! BS!
I have a brother who was senselessly murdered over 10 years ago, with no one ever being arrested or coming to the point of being tried and convicted of the crime. Since these individuals who served as jurors didn't understand the difference between justice and vengeance, and didn't find the level of atrocity of this crime to be worthy of the punishment of the death penalty, they should be each held personally responsible for the financial support of sustaining this murderous monster in prison until he dies.
@@RehanaF13 you giant retard, the law doesnt work like that. There is a reason why the constitution and law exists to begin with. Also, prisoners are usually footed with the bill of their stay in almost all US states.
This is so sad. My heart goes out to all those that were dramatist by this monster. This is our justice system. The person who ran down people during a Christmas Parade last year killing six and injuring others. Went on trial this month and is acting as his own attorney. Being allowed to question his victims. Making it easy for him to victimize his victims all over again. This is just not right.
I'm so sorry- my thoughts with you as a Venezuelan that live abroad - Shame on that who was afraid of taking the right decision... the animal will live... and for sure will have a normal life in prison... please keep doing whatever is needed to look for the justice this case deserves!
Dahmer wasn’t killed because of his crime. He was killed because he disrespected the wrong inmate. This romantic honor code ya’ll think exists in prison among criminals is absolutely hilarious and ignorant. Everyone said the same thing about Chris Watts. Everyone said someone would get Casey Anthony. Someone said they would kill Scot Peterson. They’re all alive.
Dahmer had a death wish he purposely provoked the inmates, even his attorney stated this. Dahmer got exactly what HE willfully wanted. Cruz doesn't want to die and is afraid of Pain. He will be more cautious and not be killed most likely.
This outcome is so upsetting. In my country too, the murderers claim they have mental illness, and then they got away with the death penalty. But 17 young, beautiful lives...
You poor poor people. This is the worst travesty of justice I have ever seen. You have every right to be shocked and disgusted. There is something very wrong with your judicial system.
I hope the jurors and the defense team see these videos and it hurts. I hope they have sleepless nights. And- I hope the prisoners make the murderer’s life so miserable that he wishes he were dead. Remember- he also attacked a prison guard. He likes violence, so I hope he RECEIVES lots of it.
I know, and he was even drawing horrible things on his cell walls, and doodling shooting people even during trial! He’s planning more mass shootings. He’s not sorry for taking those beautiful lives and causing the surviving families to suffer. No remorse at all. In these 4 years he hasn’t changed one bit. He lives for murder. This is what he does. He enjoys every minute of seeing people suffer while he gets attention. He is an animal gone mad. A devil that feeds on others pain. So immature!
I am absolutely disgusted with this verdict.. I am so sorry for all pain these families had to endure. This is like a green light for the next " school shooter". They know they can live. "Everyone can know my name"" absolutely horrifying.
What a powerful message from that mother my heart is torn for her . They gave the shooter exactly what he wanted to endure as much pain as he could and he won . I pray God works around the clock for these families and heals the broken hearted .
What a punch in the face to all of the victims families. Thanks to the on those three jurors I hope karma takes care of both the jurors and the POS killer.
@@captainlegend5377 Wrong It would’ve been shameful if he got off Scott free. But he’s not. Spending 20 hours a day in a cell and deprived of your freedoms and privacy are worse than death IMO
@@RYMAN1321 well lets just be on the same team here. And i absolutely agreee. If he has to do his time in general population then yes life is way worse .. but hes got it easy in pc protective custody . doesn't he ?.. isn't that wjere he is ?
@@felixxxwifey88 Yep. There was no point in it. Just send him to death immediately. No excuses can outweigh premeditated mass murder of 17 people, committed in a matter of a few minutes. By law, it’s mandatory to have a trial. This verdict is madness. That stupid jury failed everyone, even Cruz.
Every time I checked in on this trial, this chick and her friend were laughing, pointing and joking and having a good ole time. That all stopped when the verdict came out, LOL.
Why did these families have to sit day after day enduring details from their worst day...only to have a jury return this ridiculous verdict.The very paper the checklists are printed on is a waste at best...checked EVERY SINGLE BOX for Aggravating Factors...sat through.months of the most horrific testimonies I've ever witnessed both by victims families, victims themselves, experts on everything from weapons to psychiatry to forensics to social media data to cell phones from students in the middle of gunfire to NK own cell phone on which.he makes videos about his big plan to kill etc....These parents have shown more strength, character and honor than I've ever seen and its easy to see how their Children were each so full of potential.etc...my heart is just shattered by this injustice.The Prosecuted in this trial was beyond brilliant and.left.no room for doubt about the destruction NK caused.How a jury is allowed to come up with Life over Death in THIS case causes me to question the Death Penalty and whether it should be done away with after this.I never want to know what a person would have to do to be given Death because my God, if NK didn't deserve it, I never want to see the Defendant who would.I am literally appalled..I have 10 Grandchildren and no faith at all that they will ever be safe doing something as.normal as attending school.This verdict gave a free pass to all others to follow NK path...They literally have.nothing to fear do they? I am disgusted to my core.I pray he is thrown into general population and lives in constant agonizing fear until his last breath.may he be hunted, terrorized, tortured and left for dead..and I hope the last images he sees are the faces of his victims! All 34...
I hope the jurors never find themselves in a situation where they experience a person who murdered a loved one of theirs and was sentenced to life and continues to breathe. NO JUSTICE!
You completely misused “no justice” No justice can apply to Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson. Same with Emmitt Till. None of their killers were convicted or spent time in prison. Even though everyone knows they did it. Cruz will, and will never set foot outside a prison again. Spending 20 hours in a cell every day is worse than death IMO
Absolutely heartbreaking. The state did an outstanding job at proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the animal-who I will not name because he deserves zero notoriety-should have been given capital punishment. Justice was not served. Although, I have a feeling this monster won’t last long in prison. Someone will take care of it. Until then, I hope he gets to look over his shoulder in fear everyday-just as every victim felt as he was completing these heinous acts. Rest in paradise to all those lost. To the families, my heart breaks for you. I wish I could bring all 17 of your loved ones back.
I can understand that the family members are all VERY disappointed and hurt, but life in prison with no parole (and I don't believe they will ever release someone who killed 17 kids and adults) is not an easy sentence. I might feel differently if it was my sister or niece, but I believe the death penalty should be outlawed in the USA. It is not dispensed fairly and innocent people have been executed. I am a minority in Texas, but I am not alone. Lock the monsters up, and throw away the key. Don't expose society to them. John Wayne gacys last victim was killed on the very day he was supposed to have been paroled in Utah if he had served his full sentence. Need I say more?
So sorry for your loss. I really am. The jury screwed up. They have compassion for a cold blooded murderer who planned what he did. Where is their compassion for the victims and loved ones? Justice,. No Way.
Turns out it was three. But, I agree with the haunting part. They got it wrong. They clearly looked at all the evidence but then were swayed by a sob story.
I believe that the reason why this is hard for the victims' family is knowing that calculative and planned shooting of innocent minors resulting to 17 lives lost doesn't warrant the capital punishment. Honestly they should just abolish the death penalty if this case cant even result to it. I believe everyone would have felt more resolved and at peace with their feelings regarding the life sentence w/o parole verdict if it was the harshest punishment possible
This is like the James Holmes case all over again--wherein there was ONE juror hold out. It's like the law REALLY needs to be changed to a majority of the jurors and NOT unanimous to get a verdict for sentencing. Trust, the ANIMAL who did this most horrific crime knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He was NOT crazy! Also, I'll ALWAYS hate that when a person IS crazy , their absolute go to has to ALWAYS be to grab a gun and get their kill on. Like that's the ONLY thing they can do. ENOUGH!!! It's time to STOP making these types of weapons that can cause this kind of destruction in the first place...😑.
@Padraig Warren Thanks, I'll just wish the law or the constitution or WHATEVER could be changed so this kind of outcome wouldn't have to keep happening. And also if there wouldn't have to be assault weapons manufactured...that would be EVERYTHING!
@@sA-ny2jl Hey thanks! I'll just always wish that WHATEVER is needed to make verdicts be majority over unanimous be a thing. Otherwise, the kinds of verdicts that loved ones like these would like to seek, are pretty much NEVER going to happen.
It can’t bring their loved ones back but for me these families have become a total inspiration to us all. I understand they would rather have their loved one than to be my inspiration
Vote was 9-3, and that's with one of the members threatening one of the jurors not voting for the death penalty. Watching the reactions and the way the families attacked the jurors is gross. We live in a country of laws. You can't only like them when they go your way.
yup, it's horrible how people who have sacrificed their time and sanity have been disrespected in this manner. They made an incredibly hard decision. These people deserve RESPECT, and to watch them be stalked, insulted, shamed and threatened by the members of the public is disgusting. It's so uncivilised. I feel sorry sorry for them. Thank you for being a rational voice
Oh beautiful people I wish I could hug you and know that from across the world here in Australia we feel your pain and anguish. Your children will be remembered xx
The mutant lifeless mass murderer of the 17 victims and countless injured, should have 100% been given the death penalty. There shouldn't have even been a trial. What a bunch of B.S. Had this been a POC, there is no way in hell that person would have walked and gotten a prison sentence. They would have been gunned down immediately. May this POS rot in prison.
Bless you and all the other families I am so deeply sorry for what you are all going through this is so unreal I shed more than a tear for you and all the other families God bless you
You’re full of it You wanna talk about a travesty of justice ? What happened to Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson, as well as Emmitt Till were travesties of justice. The murderers who killed them walked free and spent no time in prison. It’s not even a fair comparison. Cruz will never set foot outside a prison again.
Not only did they suffer once, when their loved ones died, but having to sit through this lengthy trial, to then not even receive closure, is a whole form of suffering all over again.
I'm glad she mentioned Kate O'Shea. Kate is the one who was delivering messages back and forth from the defendant to his "Fan Club" and also facilitated relationships between the defendant and two people that live in the UK. She was the "behind the scenes" misconduct.
This awful jury. I am a pacifist but I am, with the rest of America, sickened by the justice OR rather lack of it in his country. Just sick and tired of being sick and tired. What do we HAVE TO DO IN THIS COUNTRY TO GET SOME DAMN JUSTICE ... FINALLY?
Not right!!! So sad for the families of the victims. Have faith the children and teachers killed are now in Heaven and remember God will judge the killer someday and then justice will be served. 🙏🏻
I am so sorry for the families and the victims. Justice system failed today. THis should've been the death penalty no doubt. And the fact that hte defense showed no empathy towards the victims' families is truly disgusting. The let a killer breath while he gave no mercy to the vicitims. Just truly disgusted by the "justice" system.
Bullshit He’s still going to spend the rest of his life in prison, without freedom or privacy. 20 hours a day in a cell is worse than death IMO Not only that but it takes many years to be executed
Every dog has its day!!! I believe with all my heart that the mass murder will get exactly what he deserves. As a father my heart hurts and goes out to the families of those who were taken away far too soon. I pray God helps you to deal with your pain of losing a child. I don’t want to imagine that pain. I’m so sorry you have been put through this. Your angels will always be with you and I pray you find the strength in remembering your beautiful children.
To the 17 families who lost their children on February 14 2018 I offer my sincere overdue condolences and may all the deceased rest in peace. 😔🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🇺🇸
I saw pictures of Joaquin and he was just as as beautiful as his mother and his sister. Seeing the pain in their eyes, especially the mother's, sends shockwaves through me. I wish from the absolute rock bottom of my heart that they are able to find peace again and I know that is what their son and brother would want. ❤️
You took the words right out of my mouth. I hope and pray the same.
My heart goes out to all the victims families and to the people who were injured. No words.
They need to get rid of the death sentence, then there wouldn't be disappointment like this.
I am SICK and tired to the BONE of PERPETRATORS being deemed as a victim!!
He CHOSE hatred , and the jury showed compassion to the MURDERER and not to the real victims.
May God give you peace ❤
How is spending the rest of your life in prison deprived of your freedoms and privacy in a 20 hour a day cell getting off easy ?
Even if he got the death penalty, it would take many years more so than not
May God give YOU peace
@@RYMAN1321 agree I think the families will not feel better with the death penalty as opposed to life in time they will realize that
You're dry and old, go for a walk.
Hopefully he won't last long in Prison. Someone will eventually get to him.
The sadness in the mom's eyes is killing me.
I know. I want to hug her.
I thought he would get the death penalty too. I was shocked. 1 member of the jury voted against death
I was shock and to find out that Nikolas Cruz life in prison without possibility of parole. I was very surprise that one jury member voted against death penalty.
3 of them
@@jenniferlaw7656 Unfortunately even here in Florida where we do still have the death penalty for capital crimes it has to be a unanamous decision by the jury to invoke the death penalty.
no 3 of thm did..
@@Lark_Vivian 1 of them did, and then convinced the other 2....per the juror that they interviewed.
Absolutely outrageous there was one holdout juror that would not agree to the death penalty. That person should feel great guilt for not providing justice. The monster knew what he was doing was wrong. End of story.
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
@@joshuamarx9547 I felt that also. I knew in my heart his abuse in the womb would give him life and not death.
Yep
@@suzannaj3834 the juror who didn’t vote for death was anti death from the start. Should have never been on the jury. Denise Cunha is her name.
@@suzannaj3834 so all those who have abuse in the womb commit crime?
I am STUNNED that he didn’t get the death penalty. I feel so bad for the victims and their loved ones who were completely let down by the justice system. The defense team used guilt trips to get what they wanted: life in prison for as these women correctly say “this piece of garbage”
I was beyond😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
The justice system is what it is. This is what you’ll depend on, if you’ll don’t like it, then people need to do justice for themselves!
I'm not stunned he didn't get the death penalty because what the victims love ones want is not justice its revenge and revenge don't taste so sweet. P.s if they had said he gets the death penalty and when the time came and he was put to death they still will be angry because their love ones are still dead. The only way to get rid of the angry is to forgive.
Juror Melody Vanoy is tremendously unintelligent. The reason she voted against the death penalty is because she heard a juror say 'we need to set a precedent for the state of Florida". The guidance given to the jurors was that such a factor shouldn't be considered
That's the reason she, and Denise Cunha, saved Cruz and set the stage for the next mass shooting
It's sickening
@@sweetreny1155 What really gets my “blood boiling” is the day BEFORE and up to the moment he went on this massacre rampage - he video’d WHAT he was going to do, WHERE he would it and . He didn’t just “snap” and who is this “angie” he mentioned in the video. Just bcz he had an axe to grind about life, he had no right to do what he did. PRE-meditated, cold, calculated murder spree. No feeling, No heart. Strap your boots on bcz we have NOT heard the last of ppl doing these kinds of things. satan and his hordes are busy bcz they KNOW they their days are numbered. Personally, I think America is under a judgement if sort already...and it is going to get worse.
The prosecution team was incredible. The jury delivered a disgustingly embarrassing travesty of a verdict.
You could even see the judge losing it as she was reading the documents out.
You should be angry at the Prosecution for not stating a stronger case, not the Defence.
@@Duciousness That wasn't the problem. Juror Melody Vanoy is tremendously unintelligent. The reason she voted against the death penalty is because she heard a juror say 'we need to set a precedent for the state of Florida". The guidance given to the jurors was that such a factor shouldn't be considered
That's the reason she, and Denise Cunha, saved Cruz and set the stage for the next mass shooting
It's sickening
@@opossumfpv You know what's bothering me the most? The fact that you're out here naming jurors like it's a game to you. What's sickening to me is you're doxxing people because the case hasn't come to the favoured conclusion. You're now criticizing the jurors and going on hearsay? You're a freaking psycho IMHO.
The law was followed here and just because it didn't come to the conclusion that you wanted doesn't mean you can now go around pointing the finger like you're some great RUclips judge.
@@Duciousness you think I give a shit about what's bothering you? Lmao
The jurors were Denise Cunha and Melody Vanoy
What a strong group of women. Joaquin would be proud. I do believe in karma and trust that the shooter will get exactly what he deserves....one day. Maybe not today, but soon. My prayers are with all of the families and victims.
strong LOL
Yes. He definitely will. Maybe not in this life, but in Hell. Karma is very, very real.
@@Biscuit9891 stronger than you'll ever be.
Only children believe in karma
yes really strong bcs psychopaths are strong. Joaquin tough guy oliver and emma gonzales and all those psycopaths bullies have the blame of this tragedy
Our justice system is broken. Only the criminals have rights. Shame on the jury.
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
It will become worse if Florida turns blue.
The Constitution never names victims, so ya that is correct. That being said the system worked the way it was designed. Your bitter and vindictive heart wanted revenge. I pray Jesus cures your angry vindictive heart and replaces that anger and vindictiveness with compassion and mercy.
Apparently it was ONE Juror who blocked the death penalty...So shame on the ONE Juror.
@@louiehernandez4741 I''m not bitter or vindictive. Yes I am angry that seventeen people were murdered for no reason and that this remorseless mass murder gets to live on while his victims are dead and the families are left to suffer. Also, I could never feel compassion or mercy for someone who kills people in cold blood just for the Hell of it. But that's me, you do you.
If it was their own family, it would've been different. Life is so cruel. Hugs to you from South Africa 🇿🇦.
I totally agree with Joaquin's wonderful family. My heart is broken.
Ill keep you all in my prayers. I feel the sisters anger
I'm so sorry for the families to be victimized again. Shame on the jury and the court system. God bless the families and I pray they can try to find peace in their hearts.
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
@@joshuamarx9547 Stop talking out your anus. You don't work in the criminal justice system and are speaking like this because your fragile ego and vindictive heart are bitter. Name every advantage that a criminal defendant has. The system worked the way it was designed. I pray Jesus cures your angry vindictive heart and replaces that anger and vindictiveness with compassion and mercy.
@@joshuamarx9547 how was the penalty decided? Like to do with % jurors and their opinion etc?
@@Sam-fp8zm The killer pleaded guilty to all 17 murders last October. Florida is a state that has the Death Penalty as an option. The Prosecutors decided to pursue the Death Penalty. So, they held this penalty phase Death Penalty Trial. To determine whether the killer would be given the death penalty, or would be sentenced to life in prison with no parole instead. In Florida, in order for someone to be sentenced to death it has to be a unanimous decision by the jury. Meaning all 12 jurors have to agree to sentence the defendant to death. In this case, I read that one juror refused to give him the death penalty. So, because it was not unanimous, the killer has been sentenced to life in prison instead.
@@joshuamarx9547 Thank you. That one jurors decision has had such negative effect on the family members of the victims.
Both women were amazing- but I cried at the moms testimony. She is trying to move forward, to find happiness again, but every single day she spends without Joaquin is another day Cruz continues to hurt her.
While he sits in a cell with an iPad drawing guns and wishing he could commit another mass shooting- she still suffers every, single, day. He can move on now, they can’t 😔
This boys whole family and his girlfriend is truly amazing. You can tell this young man was raised around love and raised by amazing parents. With how well spoken his father, mother, sister, and girlfriend is I truly believe that he was well spoken, very intelligent, very kind, very loving, and wonderful because his whole family including his girlfriend is this same way. I pray they each find peace and happiness because they truly deserve it and they did not deserve what they had to deal with during the trial.
Couldn't agree more. God Bless you! Prayers
Poor mom😞 every single family member deserves justice. This shouldn’t be happening!!
They did get Justice in America the family dose not get to pick the punishment this guy will die in jail
@@charlesciminera5881 not the justice families wanted and deserved. I know they can’t decide. Doesn’t matter, they’re unsatisfied and rightfully so. They have a great point about the death penalty. If not now then when??
@@amber7245 just another reason to scrap it I. understand how people feel sometimes it's just simple Justice but the better arguments are against it
No justice for victims ... prison is a money making racket!
Justice not being served would be him getting off Scott free but that’s clearly not the case.
You wanna talk about injustices, look at Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson. Same with Emmitt Till.
Their murderers were acquitted and walked free
Did you forget the jury system and the court system is all a business
The defense was shameful, disgusting and should be disbarred, they sold out.
Prayers and condolences. An outrageous injustice.
I'm very sorry. My heart breaks for you
This breaks my heart in two. I love these two strong women. I am so sorry for your loss and so sorry for the ridiculous, unforgivable outcome of this trial. My heart breaks.
Wrong use of words.
Unforgivable would be if he got off Scott free which isn’t obviously the case.
@@RYMAN1321 considering what he did, this is basically not a punishment at all.
My condolences to the families, your children would be proud of your courage and efforts. 🙏🙏
Joaquin is the name of my husband and my older son, Joaquin Oliver was a beautifully young men. This women mom and sister are so strong! My heart ♥️ goes for them and Joaquin’s dad.
Worst jury since OJ trial.
I’m sorry but since Casey Anthony another dumbass Florida trial
My thoughts and prayers are with the families.
The families should sue the jurors
You are protected as a juror you can’t be sued for jury duties.
And what is the cause of action? They didn't get to exact revenge on Cruz is not a cause of action.
😂😂😂😂🤡
You can sue over spilt hot coffee that you ordered but can't sue over incompetence
Didn't the juror or jurors lie about being able to vote pro-death penalty when being questioned to get on the jury in the first place?! Pergery to me...misrepresentation of your true beliefs under oath! BS!
I am so sorry for the suffering of the family members. Horrific grief.
I have a brother who was senselessly murdered over 10 years ago, with no one ever being arrested or coming to the point of being tried and convicted of the crime. Since these individuals who served as jurors didn't understand the difference between justice and vengeance, and didn't find the level of atrocity of this crime to be worthy of the punishment of the death penalty, they should be each held personally responsible for the financial support of sustaining this murderous monster in prison until he dies.
Agreed. They deserve it. If they are that compassionate to spare this monsters life, then they should be the ones to pay for him.
@@RehanaF13 you giant retard, the law doesnt work like that. There is a reason why the constitution and law exists to begin with. Also, prisoners are usually footed with the bill of their stay in almost all US states.
@General Spaz excuse me? you’re not very friendly. You don’t even know me. I’m not answering further.
I completely agree!
This is so sad. My heart goes out to all those that were dramatist by this monster. This is our justice system. The person who ran down people during a Christmas Parade last year killing six and injuring others. Went on trial this month and is acting as his own attorney. Being allowed to question his victims. Making it easy for him to victimize his victims all over again. This is just not right.
She's right. The Death Penalty was the only appropriate sentence in this case. 14 kids were murdered, 3 Staff members.
I'm so sorry- my thoughts with you as a Venezuelan that live abroad - Shame on that who was afraid of taking the right decision... the animal will live... and for sure will have a normal life in prison... please keep doing whatever is needed to look for the justice this case deserves!
Im heartbroken for all of these families
Dahmer didn’t last long in prison. The odds are not in his favor.
Dahmer wasn’t killed because of his crime. He was killed because he disrespected the wrong inmate. This romantic honor code ya’ll think exists in prison among criminals is absolutely hilarious and ignorant. Everyone said the same thing about Chris Watts. Everyone said someone would get Casey Anthony. Someone said they would kill Scot Peterson. They’re all alive.
Dahmer had a death wish he purposely provoked the inmates, even his attorney stated this. Dahmer got exactly what HE willfully wanted. Cruz doesn't want to die and is afraid of Pain. He will be more cautious and not be killed most likely.
Love to you and your family, well said. ❤️
Mis respetos para estas damas increíblemente fuertes.
This outcome is so upsetting. In my country too, the murderers claim they have mental illness, and then they got away with the death penalty. But 17 young, beautiful lives...
@@sA-ny2jl the way you structured your comment makes me think YOURE mentally ill
What a shameful verdict! I'm so sorry for the families. I am so disgusted and angry about this verdict!
Yes it terrible
You poor poor people. This is the worst travesty of justice I have ever seen. You have every right to be shocked and disgusted. There is something very wrong with your judicial system.
I hope the jurors and the defense team see these videos and it hurts. I hope they have sleepless nights. And- I hope the prisoners make the murderer’s life so miserable that he wishes he were dead. Remember- he also attacked a prison guard. He likes violence, so I hope he RECEIVES lots of it.
I know, and he was even drawing horrible things on his cell walls, and doodling shooting people even during trial! He’s planning more mass shootings. He’s not sorry for taking those beautiful lives and causing the surviving families to suffer. No remorse at all. In these 4 years he hasn’t changed one bit. He lives for murder. This is what he does. He enjoys every minute of seeing people suffer while he gets attention. He is an animal gone mad. A devil that feeds on others pain. So immature!
I am absolutely disgusted with this verdict.. I am so sorry for all pain these families had to endure. This is like a green light for the next " school shooter". They know they can live. "Everyone can know my name"" absolutely horrifying.
Just show proof of a mental illness and it’s a free ticket to bypass the death penalty. Our Justice System in the U.S. sucks.
Ban semi-auto rifles.
What a powerful message from that mother my heart is torn for her . They gave the shooter exactly what he wanted to endure as much pain as he could and he won . I pray God works around the clock for these families and heals the broken hearted .
This breaks my heart! 😢
🕊 Wishing you peace!! Two beautiful women.. I’m so sorry for you😢😢
So hard to believe. If the death penalty is for the worse or the worse, I can’t imagine what is worse.
What a punch in the face to all of the victims families. Thanks to the on those three jurors I hope karma takes care of both the jurors and the POS killer.
Don’t wish bad on people, it’s just asking for karma to bite you
@@RYMAN1321 very true. Lol. Your right.
No parent should outlive their child
No justice, no peace!
You spoke perfectly. Don’t let him steal your live. Your strong.
I agree with Patricia and Andrea. Joaquin Oliver was loved and will be remembered
I wonder if Patricia Oliver ever mentioned the word animal bastard monster or garbage or creature in her life
I am hurting by this outcome ..
You know what i been watching this since day 1 and if you look back at my comments.. i was screaning saying this would happen. This is shameful
@@captainlegend5377 Wrong
It would’ve been shameful if he got off Scott free.
But he’s not.
Spending 20 hours a day in a cell and deprived of your freedoms and privacy are worse than death IMO
@@RYMAN1321 well lets just be on the same team here. And i absolutely agreee. If he has to do his time in general population then yes life is way worse .. but hes got it easy in pc protective custody . doesn't he ?.. isn't that wjere he is ?
How beautiful they are! I can only imagine how handsome her son was! Beautiful inside and out...God speed to the family's...
Rotting in jail is worse. Plus certain people won’t tolerate someone that killed children.
My condolences 💐
I can't believe the jury gave him life when he took so many for no damn reason!! It's another slap to the face of the families!!
Yes, and he took those lives faster than this whole trial.
@@RehanaF13 u ain't lying... I agree with the sister when she said there shouldn't of even been a trial
@@felixxxwifey88 Yep. There was no point in it. Just send him to death immediately. No excuses can outweigh premeditated mass murder of 17 people, committed in a matter of a few minutes. By law, it’s mandatory to have a trial. This verdict is madness. That stupid jury failed everyone, even Cruz.
Disrespectful... general population is our only hope
@@felixxxwifey88 street or prison justice sufficient
Every time I checked in on this trial, this chick and her friend were laughing, pointing and joking and having a good ole time. That all stopped when the verdict came out, LOL.
Joaquin’s murder details haunted me for weeks. God bless his family and friends💔🙏🏽
Why did these families have to sit day after day enduring details from their worst day...only to have a jury return this ridiculous verdict.The very paper the checklists are printed on is a waste at best...checked EVERY SINGLE BOX for Aggravating Factors...sat through.months of the most horrific testimonies I've ever witnessed both by victims families, victims themselves, experts on everything from weapons to psychiatry to forensics to social media data to cell phones from students in the middle of gunfire to NK own cell phone on which.he makes videos about his big plan to kill etc....These parents have shown more strength, character and honor than I've ever seen and its easy to see how their Children were each so full of potential.etc...my heart is just shattered by this injustice.The Prosecuted in this trial was beyond brilliant and.left.no room for doubt about the destruction NK caused.How a jury is allowed to come up with Life over Death in THIS case causes me to question the Death Penalty and whether it should be done away with after this.I never want to know what a person would have to do to be given Death because my God, if NK didn't deserve it, I never want to see the Defendant who would.I am literally appalled..I have 10 Grandchildren and no faith at all that they will ever be safe doing something as.normal as attending school.This verdict gave a free pass to all others to follow NK path...They literally have.nothing to fear do they? I am disgusted to my core.I pray he is thrown into general population and lives in constant agonizing fear until his last breath.may he be hunted, terrorized, tortured and left for dead..and I hope the last images he sees are the faces of his victims! All 34...
No justice!
I hope the jurors never find themselves in a situation where they experience a person who murdered a loved one of theirs and was sentenced to life and continues to breathe. NO JUSTICE!
You completely misused “no justice”
No justice can apply to Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson. Same with Emmitt Till.
None of their killers were convicted or spent time in prison. Even though everyone knows they did it.
Cruz will, and will never set foot outside a prison again. Spending 20 hours in a cell every day is worse than death IMO
I hope they do.
Karma...those jurors 3 blind to injustice mice
these ladies show more class than I have ever imagined having in the face of this ridiculous set of tragedies.
You are 100% correct
I’m so sorry
❤️🙏
Absolutely heartbreaking. The state did an outstanding job at proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the animal-who I will not name because he deserves zero notoriety-should have been given capital punishment. Justice was not served. Although, I have a feeling this monster won’t last long in prison. Someone will take care of it. Until then, I hope he gets to look over his shoulder in fear everyday-just as every victim felt as he was completing these heinous acts. Rest in paradise to all those lost. To the families, my heart breaks for you. I wish I could bring all 17 of your loved ones back.
That mom's right Cruz got everything he wanted...he's happy tonight.
I can understand that the family members are all VERY disappointed and hurt, but life in prison with no parole (and I don't believe they will ever release someone who killed 17 kids and adults) is not an easy sentence. I might feel differently if it was my sister or niece, but I believe the death penalty should be outlawed in the USA. It is not dispensed fairly and innocent people have been executed. I am a minority in Texas, but I am not alone. Lock the monsters up, and throw away the key. Don't expose society to them. John Wayne gacys last victim was killed on the very day he was supposed to have been paroled in Utah if he had served his full sentence. Need I say more?
So sorry for your loss. I really am. The jury screwed up. They have compassion for a cold blooded murderer who planned what he did. Where is their compassion for the victims and loved ones? Justice,. No Way.
Rest In Peace to all 17 victims ❤️ #parklandstrong
I love that the reporters switched to Spanish so that she can communicate comfortably.
So very sorry for you and your family 💗 we will not forget
Wonder how that juror feels tonight? Hope the decision haunts her!
I so agree. I hope it never leaves their mind that they let a killer live
I guarantee you she’s a narcissist herself.
Turns out it was three. But, I agree with the haunting part. They got it wrong. They clearly looked at all the evidence but then were swayed by a sob story.
I believe that the reason why this is hard for the victims' family is knowing that calculative and planned shooting of innocent minors resulting to 17 lives lost doesn't warrant the capital punishment.
Honestly they should just abolish the death penalty if this case cant even result to it. I believe everyone would have felt more resolved and at peace with their feelings regarding the life sentence w/o parole verdict if it was the harshest punishment possible
This is like the James Holmes case all over again--wherein there was ONE juror hold out.
It's like the law REALLY needs to be changed to a majority of the jurors and NOT unanimous to get a verdict for sentencing.
Trust, the ANIMAL who did this most horrific crime knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He was NOT crazy!
Also, I'll ALWAYS hate that when a person IS crazy , their absolute go to has to ALWAYS be to grab a gun and get their kill on. Like that's the ONLY thing they can do.
ENOUGH!!!
It's time to STOP making these types of weapons that can cause this kind of destruction in the first place...😑.
@Padraig Warren
Thanks, I'll just wish the law or the constitution or WHATEVER could be changed so this kind of outcome wouldn't have to keep happening.
And also if there wouldn't have to be assault weapons manufactured...that would be EVERYTHING!
@@sA-ny2jl
Hey thanks!
I'll just always wish that WHATEVER is needed to make verdicts be majority over unanimous be a thing.
Otherwise, the kinds of verdicts that loved ones like these would like to seek, are pretty much NEVER going to happen.
It can’t bring their loved ones back but for me these families have become a total inspiration to us all. I understand they would rather have their loved one than to be my inspiration
His fellow prisoners will have the last word. They will succeed where the "good guys" failed.
Vote was 9-3, and that's with one of the members threatening one of the jurors not voting for the death penalty. Watching the reactions and the way the families attacked the jurors is gross. We live in a country of laws. You can't only like them when they go your way.
yup, it's horrible how people who have sacrificed their time and sanity have been disrespected in this manner. They made an incredibly hard decision. These people deserve RESPECT, and to watch them be stalked, insulted, shamed and threatened by the members of the public is disgusting. It's so uncivilised. I feel sorry sorry for them. Thank you for being a rational voice
Jury duty failed these families dearly jury duty didn't their job 😠 😡😡😡😡
Oh beautiful people I wish I could hug you and know that from across the world here in Australia we feel your pain and anguish. Your children will be remembered xx
My heart goes out to everyone. Justice was NOT served I definitely feel the families rage
The mutant lifeless mass murderer of the 17 victims and countless injured, should have 100% been given the death penalty. There shouldn't have even been a trial. What a bunch of B.S. Had this been a POC, there is no way in hell that person would have walked and gotten a prison sentence. They would have been gunned down immediately. May this POS rot in prison.
This family is so beautiful and articulate.
Bless you and all the other families I am so deeply sorry for what you are all going through this is so unreal I shed more than a tear for you and all the other families God bless you
I guarantee that juror was anti-death penalty and didn't disclose it.
Absolute travesty of Justice💔💔💔
You’re full of it
You wanna talk about a travesty of justice ?
What happened to Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson, as well as Emmitt Till were travesties of justice.
The murderers who killed them walked free and spent no time in prison.
It’s not even a fair comparison.
Cruz will never set foot outside a prison again.
Not only did they suffer once, when their loved ones died, but having to sit through this lengthy trial, to then not even receive closure, is a whole form of suffering all over again.
...one thing's for sure...nobody's going to go out rioting over this shit tonight...
That one juror really let the community down.
May a curse be on the head of that wicked juror forevermore
That juror let the world down
Another sad thing is NICHOLAS is probably gonna be protected by the prison and housed ALONE
I'm glad she mentioned Kate O'Shea. Kate is the one who was delivering messages back and forth from the defendant to his "Fan Club" and also facilitated relationships between the defendant and two people that live in the UK. She was the "behind the scenes" misconduct.
I wonder if that one juror was bribed to do that? In today’s society I believe anything is possible.
This awful jury. I am a pacifist but I am, with the rest of America, sickened by the justice OR rather lack of it in his country. Just sick and tired of being sick and tired. What do we HAVE TO DO IN THIS COUNTRY TO GET SOME DAMN JUSTICE ... FINALLY?
How ironic and so tragic that one juror, just like one convicted murdered, gets priority over so many others...
God bless you. I agree with you totally. I'm so very sorry.
Not right!!! So sad for the families of the victims. Have faith the children and teachers killed are now in Heaven and remember God will judge the killer someday and then justice will be served. 🙏🏻
I am so sorry for the families and the victims. Justice system failed today. THis should've been the death penalty no doubt. And the fact that hte defense showed no empathy towards the victims' families is truly disgusting. The let a killer breath while he gave no mercy to the vicitims. Just truly disgusted by the "justice" system.
Bullshit
He’s still going to spend the rest of his life in prison, without freedom or privacy.
20 hours a day in a cell is worse than death IMO
Not only that but it takes many years to be executed
Every dog has its day!!! I believe with all my heart that the mass murder will get exactly what he deserves.
As a father my heart hurts and goes out to the families of those who were taken away far too soon. I pray God helps you to deal with your pain of losing a child. I don’t want to imagine that pain. I’m so sorry you have been put through this. Your angels will always be with you and I pray you find the strength in remembering your beautiful children.
Agreed. The worst pain anyone can endure is the loss of a child. The parent is supposed to be the first one to go.
To the 17 families who lost their children on February 14 2018 I offer my sincere overdue condolences and may all the deceased rest in peace. 😔🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🇺🇸
I agree 100%