The Conception Of The Howard Plan | Wine and Roses | Better Call Saul

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @AlexandraAndStuff
    @AlexandraAndStuff 10 месяцев назад +233

    Kim is 100% responsible for her own demise, but I still felt very bad for her. It's also a nice case study of what happens if you decide to step away from a bad path (Kim) vs. keep on going (Jimmy)

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 10 месяцев назад +10

      Jimmy could choose not to be evil but somehow he let a guy who died a long time ago (Chuck) to have too much influence over him and kept blaming Chuck (and Kim as an extension of Chuck) for making him that way.
      I’m 100% convinced that Jimmy chose to be evil. I’m not that convinced that Jimmy could choose to be good.
      The reason that I didn’t buy that Jimmy has turned “good” during his redemption moment, because he never regretted destroying Howard’s life. He only regretted that Kim dumped him for it. And the main priorities of his redemption were to exonerate Kim (from something that was her fault) and to make himself look good in front of Kim, not because he grew his conscience on his own.
      Overall, Kim is not a perfect person. Very flawed but still has a good side. Jimmy, on the other hand, is an irredeemable abomination monster who is pure evil to the core.

    • @michaelwhit1059
      @michaelwhit1059 10 месяцев назад +18

      Jimmy did it for Kim.
      Saul did it for money.
      Kim did it for *fun*.

    • @jotarokujo5132
      @jotarokujo5132 10 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@nont18411 pure evil ? whoa there. there are dozens of characters who put Saul's crimes to shame.
      Saul was a greedy lawyer, nothing more.

  • @williamwestmoreland4069
    @williamwestmoreland4069 10 месяцев назад +97

    The shot at the end where Kim and Jimmy are depicted behind bars is symbolic of how there's a fence outside. Bravo Vince

    • @ConsumeristScroffa
      @ConsumeristScroffa 10 месяцев назад

      A fence outside? Wdym?

    • @gabe6475
      @gabe6475 10 месяцев назад +1

      Willliamwestmoreland4069 STOP. HELPING.

    • @lilithgrey8057
      @lilithgrey8057 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@ConsumeristScroffa There is a fence outside of the restaurant, a fence is like wall but outside to deter animals and stuff. Hope this helps!

    • @km077
      @km077 Месяц назад +1

      @@lilithgrey8057 It's also worth pointing out that such wall is see-through. It's the very staple of modern engineering, not seen indoors. In prehistoric times people were forced to use glass like absolute dum-dums, but since the moonlanding we have learned that we can install special, non-distorting devices into the material itself. The youth calls them "gyapps" or whatever. I prefer the old-school "gaps".

  • @skroumi2538
    @skroumi2538 10 месяцев назад +141

    There's just something so eerie about slippin' Kimmy. To see a moral character turn into quite the opposite is so sad.

    • @dtczyk8976
      @dtczyk8976 Месяц назад +1

      What’s even crazier is that not only is she moral she is extremely compassionate. She really cares about the innocent people that can’t afford a good lawyer.

  • @DaScorpionSting
    @DaScorpionSting 10 месяцев назад +51

    The beginning of something that Jimmy could've backed off after he had his fun but Kim wanted hers.

  • @pablo_giustiniani
    @pablo_giustiniani 10 месяцев назад +112

    The lightning in this scene is insane

    • @siamesevodka
      @siamesevodka 10 месяцев назад +27

      The cinematography in the entire series was brilliant,

    • @CheesyChez421
      @CheesyChez421 10 месяцев назад +26

      It's cuz lightning shoots from his fingertips

    • @Hustlery
      @Hustlery 2 месяца назад

      ​@@CheesyChez421kid named finger

  • @SteveNathn
    @SteveNathn 2 месяца назад +3

    3:40 on rewatch is so good. When he says "coke", they both look at each other like they know the other use of the word would work - especially Jimmy's quick look at 3:52 and Kim's side nod following that

  • @ozundone7805
    @ozundone7805 10 месяцев назад +6

    Rewatching the lead up to Plan and Execution always gives me chills. They just had no idea

  • @dog_owner
    @dog_owner 10 месяцев назад +26

    jimmy really didnt want to destroy howard but his love for kim told him to go through with it

    • @oliviamonamekionis4550
      @oliviamonamekionis4550 10 месяцев назад +7

      Kim pushed him, but he pushed Kim first. They wouldn't have done all the terrible things without each others (bad) influence.
      On the other hand, isn't there something slippery about Jimmy before Kim... Maybe Jimmy would have turned Saul without her, but she wouldn't have went that path if not Jimmy. In that way, I feel his influence was bigger/ uglier

    • @richardconstante6486
      @richardconstante6486 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@oliviamonamekionis4550Saul Goodman was born because of Chuck, Kim had nothing to do with it and actually was against it. But in the series and with the years they were together Kim was influenced to be her true self and have fun without really think about the consequences of their actions until it was too late

  • @SteveNathn
    @SteveNathn 10 месяцев назад +31

    I fr need a woman to look and talk like that to me, the way Kim does to Jimmy

    • @snowarmth
      @snowarmth 10 месяцев назад +11

      It helps to be as invested in the conversation as she is because people mirror other people. The hard part for a guy is getting a girl to be interested. XD Try not to be too pushy, etc. It's rocket science~

  • @kidnamedfinguh
    @kidnamedfinguh 10 месяцев назад +20

    With Kim,jimmy can be the best version of himself, but with Jimmy, Kim becomes the worst version of herself😢what a tragic love story

  • @Blizzard199X
    @Blizzard199X 10 месяцев назад +56

    Jimmy ordering a coke is pretty clever foreshadowing.

    • @Jasman500
      @Jasman500 10 месяцев назад +1

      How

    • @joanavarrobellido
      @joanavarrobellido 10 месяцев назад +24

      @@Jasman500because of what they do to howard afterwards, make everyone think that he does cocaine (coke for short)

    • @MarfilStudios
      @MarfilStudios 10 месяцев назад +25

      @@joanavarrobellido I think you are over analyzing this lmao

    • @ConsumeristScroffa
      @ConsumeristScroffa 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@MarfilStudiosYup. I mean, there's plenty of foreshadowing, no doubt. But some fans try to find connections in every little thing.

    • @mschillingjr
      @mschillingjr 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@MarfilStudios Absolutely not. Nearly every second shot of this show is done the way it is for a reason.

  • @buckbuck9225
    @buckbuck9225 10 месяцев назад +6

    This reminds me of why I dislike attorneys.. cocktail party's and everyone's secrets..I'm glad I didn't marry mine. Hells gonna be rough...

  • @mrcakey3704
    @mrcakey3704 10 месяцев назад +1

    That outside shot with the still beats. Like we didn't know the significance then but the crew did.

  • @nachocarrillo7106
    @nachocarrillo7106 10 месяцев назад +10

    Sopaipillas, CHILE mentioned 🇨🇱

  • @lakemadden4397
    @lakemadden4397 9 месяцев назад +2

    i just love her

  • @dextermcgrubbin
    @dextermcgrubbin 8 месяцев назад

    Jimmy will do anything for Kim's approval. These two are bad for each other.

  • @idanlewenhoff2295
    @idanlewenhoff2295 10 месяцев назад +7

    kim is the dream girl

  • @DarkRek-y5q
    @DarkRek-y5q 10 месяцев назад

    New episode?

  • @jawaunaewing2627
    @jawaunaewing2627 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing amazing

  • @CheesyChez421
    @CheesyChez421 10 месяцев назад

    3:26-3:46 is such great writing.