2019 Mustang EcoBoost Cobb Stage 1 vs PD Tune! | Acceleration Tests
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2021
- Today I flash the Cobb Stage 1 91 Octane Tune back on my 2019 Ford Mustang EcoBoost after doing some acceleration tests with the PD (Purple Drank) Tuning Pro Tune. The results may surprise you! Is a pro tune worth it?
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Just finished my 93 tune with Ryan @ PD Tuning and it's incredible. I'm currently working on the E30 tune with Ryan just as a time if I feel like getting nasty but I'll run my 93 tune 95% of the time. I'm running full bolt ons with stock turbo and stock block and I couldn't be happier. A HUGE DIFFERENCE from the COBB OTS stage 1/2 maps.
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E.t. Results would be hard data, that would be more useful. Like Cobb stage 1 vs Cobb stage 2 vs PD tune timeslips, or dyno #s.
Cobb tunes the ecu, PD tunes the ecu, you won't likely find a big difference, the only difference is the PD tune will just fine tune some parameters on your ecu/engine where the Cobb tune was developed using multiple cars. For a street car the Cobb tune is fine, if you are racing and need every last horse power then a tune for your engine would help.
Very interesting results, I have a 2019 10r80 as well and I'm getting consistent 5.2 0-60 and 13.4 quarter mile with no tune and few bolt ons. Getting tuned this week by a shop locally we'll see how it goes.
Most likely just traction issues.
How did it go
Results?
I actually live out in Vegas to, I own a 2019 base model ecoboost with the 10-speed. I also am currently tuning with Ryan at PD-Tuning. Just wanted to say the biggest thing that woke the car up for me was a downpipe. I opted for a catless downpipe but I feel the tuning process has woken up the car even more. If anything we should link up sometime and do some test pulls! Awesome video's!!!!
I’d be down to see the difference! HMU on Instagram @ Jvette01!
Can confirm a downpipe even a catted one makes a huge difference.
yeah i did the same. actually i preferred that 'smooth' and more instant feel of COBB stage 1 93 over Adams 93 tune.
BUT... when you wanted to go 1/4 mile or track work with higher speed the custom tune was much faster. around town the COBB felt better. but def not faster. maybe 0.5-1s. But you only notice it on hooligan driving mode.
E30 is where it was at. E30 pro tune was better in every single sense. felt more solid. lively. reliable. power was brilliant. But the economy was bad lol
I just went from Cobb stage 1 to a protune from Ryan as well. Ryan's tune is obviously quicker for me, plus the way the boost hits is so much more satisfying with the protune. What mods do you have so far?
I had just an intercooler and tune. Everything else was stock.
@@JVette01 Do you need an intercooler if you have a tune or would you be okay?
No you don’t need one, but I recommend one as it makes power more consistent and doesn’t get heat soaked as quickly.
I feel pro-tune is much more worth it if your car is heavily modified.. If you have no-modes or only have an exhaust change the canned tune is probably pretty close to what you need... if you buy cob's stage-2 package with cobb intake and cobb-intercooler and use those as your only mods then their canned "stage2" tune should match that setup well(but don't try on factory inter-cooler) if you upgrade different parts from different vendors and do full-bolt-on upgrades and/or want to mix in methanol or other alternative fuels you'll need a pro-tune to optimize for this.
Good point!
@@JVette01 I also feel the other very useful purpose of tuning custom is to ensure more accurate afr's, and being able to pull timing in rpm+map-pressure regions that are prone to knock to make the engine last longer, and to be able to ensure you can perform that pull with minimum engine wear and damage.. I'd probably run both again with "knock count" showing as well as "octane-adjust-ratio" showing.. so if they get very similar times but the pro tune has far less knock, its safer.
I'd be interested in a cobb stage 2 vs PD tune considering they both require an upgraded intercooler. I think that would be more apples to apples. I have a 2020 HPP with 201A fully loaded running a 5* 91 pro tune along with tuned trans 10spd, i feel the cobb tunes have the boost kick in sooner and feel a bit stronger down low where the pro tune feels a bit stronger up top. My mods are CVF street intercooler, CVF H/C side pipes, K&N drop in filter with Airaid tube. Active exhaust with stock DP.
Yeah that would be interesting. That’s a good little mod list you have there. How fast does it feel compared to stock?
@@JVette01 the car feels great, I really enjoy the added power along with the magnaride suspension. I will agree with you that the Cobb tunes feel much smoother as far as shifting. The 5* trans tune shifts through all gears up and down in normal mode. I did have them do a revision for me softening up the 2-1 downshift....it was a little harsh 😅 I'm over here in AZ so the car is always 🔥🥵
You should upload a few videos! I’m curious to see how the high performance compares to the normal EcoBoost.
Especially when tuned
@@JVette01 I was talking to Adam at tune+ and he said on 91 there isn't a big difference, he said where the bigger turbo shines over stock is a E30 tune.
is that a different version of sync for the infotainment screen? cause i’ve seen it where the apps are all white compared to yours being all blue
It’s sync 3.4 … you can get that on any sync 3 and 2020+ has it standard.
I’m pro tuned by Ryan 2017 premium ecoboost and have both 93 and E30 maps and I was getting 11.9s on E30 and 4.4 0-60 felt like night and day compared to the crap OTS map.
11.9 in the 1/4?
Yessir even with stock 20 inch wheels too 😆. I have Mbrp race exhaust, cvfab race intercooler, cvfab catless downpipe, NGK spark plugs, turbo smart Blow off valve, JLT catch can, new revised low pressure fuel sensor, roush cold air intake. Stock I used to get gapped by my cousins 2016 stock 5.0 now with the mods and PD tuning maps I gap stock 5.0s with ease. Amazing how this tiny 2.3T responds to mods
That’s impressive. I’d love to run a fbo EcoBoost with my stock GT
@@JVette01 we should meet up in Mexico sometime 👍
DM me on Instagram!
Cobbs OTS tunes aren’t all that great either, so I only recommend them to people who wanna go on vacation and need a tune very aggressive in case you come across shitty gas. Everybody on here needs to remember that the 2.3 Ecoboost especially if it’s not the high-performance back version a.k.a. focus RS, Is gonna nose dive at high RPMs that’s because the cylinder head and turbo are out of efficiency. The reason why this is important it’s because you can get the best turner in the world, to flash your Ecoboost and it won’t be that much faster than a regular OTS Tune. Remember drag racing is all about the launch and maintaining power at higher PMs or having a shift points in the happy spot of the powerband. This is one of the reasons why if you watch 2018 and up Ecoboost Mustang acceleration video you’ll see it short shifting around 5500 RPM, Ford isn’t doing it by mistake
So just be aware that at higher RPMS and this goes for most modern day turbo engines, if you want to get big gains you’re gonna have to run higher octane E 30 or race gas, Because it’s all gonna come down to timing
Thanks for sharing that info! That makes sense.
what would u recommend for a stock 2018 eco boost premium mustang
Just stick with Cobb stage 1 unless it makes you more comfortable to get a pro tune.
I own a 2020 ecoboost. I wanted to know if i should tune my car? Any recommendations if i should?
I tuned mine and had no issues. Just make sure you get the right tune, don’t get like a Stage 3 tune with a stock EcoBoost.
Start with a Cobb tube see if ya like it
I heard the OTS tunes cause ecoboom though? Thats why everyone just does pro tune
The Cobb was fine for the time I had it. I went pro tune afterwards. Both ran great and no issues. Got rid of the car around 28k miles though.
When PD tuned your car, did it have an upgraded intercooler?
Yes
@@JVette01 Then why didn't you compare the PD tune to the Cobb stage 2 OTS tune, rather than the Cobb stage 1 tune?
Cobb stage 2 requires an upgraded intake. I still had the stock airbox
pro tunes are meant for more modified cars. get all your bolt ons and then get a protune
Yeah I feel like if you heavily mod your car then it makes sense to go pro tune
Is Pd tuning worth it vs Cobb stage 1 93?
For performance, no. For reliability, I don’t know. Just stick with Cobb unless you feel more comfortable having a pro tune.
@@JVette01 I like you're being honest!
Honesty is the best policy! However, If you do a bunch of mods and want to utilize them best, then I suggest going pro tune.
@@JVette01 I don't have many mods beside a catback mbrp race and a green air filter.
Yeah, I’d stick with Cobb if I were you.
Your doing it on a curved road 😳
I know, it’s just a slight curve though. I don’t know if any good empty streets near Mexico where I could do a better 1/4mi test.
What intercooler did you get?
CVF
@@JVette01thanks
So if I get cvf street or Mishimoto Intercooler with the coob stage 1 tune it should be safe and reliable?
Yes
That smoothness that he was saying that he felt that disappeared the transmission is no longer sliding in the air is popping into gear this way you don't lose RPMs this guy really doesn't know anything about a car he shouldn't be doing the video
You have such positive things to say on every video. Thanks for the view!
What you just said makes absolutely no since. Keep up your positivity.
You think i’ll be safe with that cobb tune for 4-5 years 80,000+ miles? It’s my daily and the last thing i want is to go ecoboom lol
Only time will tell but if you take care of it, I don’t see why not
@@JVette01 I’m about to order the accessport next week. I just hope i don’t go ecoboom because i absolutely cannot afford that💀 But at the same time, yolo. Gotta enjoy life
True 😂 have fun!
@@JVette01 One more little question man. How was the trade in process on the ecoboost. Did they say anything because of the tune?
No. I just flashed it back to stock. If you want to talk more, feel free to dm me on insta
looks like Vegas...
Mexico
I am genuinely confused. Why do you do these pulls/tests in normal mode and not Sport mode? I just put in my tuning request even after driving with the stage 1 cobb OTS tune on my car since Friday (the difference is subtle but i feel it when I drive and floor it). Perhaps you need more mods under the hood and get a pro tune from that. like a bigger turbo? a cold air intake? etc....
So you really go down to mexico to do these??? lol wow.
It’s because when you put the drive mode in Sport/Track/etc. it doesn’t matter if the shifter is in S or not. For base cars, you’d want to use S since you don’t have the drive mode toggle switches. And yes, I ship my car to Mexico to do these ;)
@@JVette01 So what you're saying is, since I don't have the drive modes, Sport is the way to go, but if you do then normal Drive mode? I'm confused still
For base cars: D is for normal driving (skips gears, shifts smooth) S is for sporty driving (doesn’t skip gears, shifts firm, and allow you to lock it in manual mode with paddles). For my car, it’s the same way, BUT putting the drive mode in Sport also changes the exhaust, steering mode, and suspension (if equipped). You don’t have to have the car in S for it to be in the sport driving mode. Does that make sense?
@@JVette01 Let me see if i can get this straight. Since your car has the driving modes, it doesn't need to be in S to be in sport mode since you have the toggle switch for other driving modes?
100% correct.
Get a pro tune they said... It'll be faster they said...
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He’s doing Quarter mile times on stock tires he probably should’ve got the dragy and did 60 - 130 rolls rwd cars aren’t meant to be quick from a dead stop otherwise that would have given you a sticky tire when you bought the car
Rwd = rolls that’s where the orotune is gonna shine not a dead stop where the tires are a serious limiting factor
@@cdl34453 I couldn't disagree more with your comment.
That Mexican road looks familiar 🤔 🤔
You live near Mexico too!?
@@JVette01 let's just say I'm right on the border 👌😁
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