I have 2017 GT with some suspension improvements. This video tells me I should stick with it rather than trade up to a Mach 1, as it will likely be no quicker and possibly slower. Good buyer advice.
Next test should be 305 NT-01 square with an upgraded pad and track alignment without any upgraded suspension parts. Show what tires, alignment and pads do before adding special parts. The ecoboost is a purpose built track rat sporting a lot of negative camber front and rear.
@@Shaggie_Thrills Yeah, I have a straight pipe single exit on mine. I didn't want to spend 400 on an axle back and more on a resonator just to have it sound bad. Might as well sound bad (but very fun) for super cheap. It is fun though and does pop and crackle a lot. At this point I dont care that it doesn't sound all that good, but its so much more fun this way. Also not too loud suprisingly.
Great Video Steeda, Thank you! Question- why wasn’t there much discussion about the tires used on the Ecoboost? It seems to me that would make a big difference in braking and corner speed.
Nitto 315 Nitro NT-01 on the EB; stock Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on the Mach 1. Handling pack Mach 1 (which they were NOT using) has Cup 2’s. All that was covered in the video. Did you watch it?
For the EB haters (plenty of them) out there, the lap time tells the tale. Spend any time at a track with turns, and you will see Miyata's lapping heavy V8's all day long. Sure, the EB emits a sound like a fart-can. But the people hearing it are behind you. And now that it's been out for a while, proven power adders make it plenty quick, and pretty sorted out. They indirectly, point out the basic 5.0 V8 problem, weight. The EB has a lighter front end and a better center of mass for autocross, track days, etc. I added a Steeda Tri-Axe short shifter to mine, it's so fun to drive at all those events. (amongst plenty of other Steeda go-fast bits) Don't get me wrong, I dig V8's, I6's, W10's, V-Twins, etc. But, a 1:20, beats a 1:24 all day long.
really good points here, but i think its worth noting the EB has had a shit load of work to it, only to edge out the MACH 1 in its stock form. also i noticed the MACH1 had the back s seat and the EB had the deletion, as you pointed out weight is everything, i feel the EB, has probably removed a few items not needed, also keeping the weight down. So in conclusion as stock vehicles, the MACH 1 would win hands down. This has nothing to do with engine size rather a track proven/ready vehicle versus a standard road car.
We addressed this towards the end of the video. Track conditions were very similar for both vehicles as it had just sprinkled before the EcoBoost went out as well. Hope this helps! -Chris
I'm sure the ecoboost is a great car. But I'm old school, driving a 5.0 manual is a really fun driving experience. That ecoboost won't last as long as a v8 will
We addressed this towards the end of the video. Track conditions were very similar for both vehicles as it had just sprinkled before the EcoBoost went out as well. Hope this helps! -Chris
Wow, that Ecoboost just spanked that Mach 1 by over 4 seconds, on a short course. It just goes to show you that weight, handling, and brakes are more important than HP, when road racing.
Awesome video comparison!!! Im still doing everything I can to try and sell my 2v to buy an affordable 15-18 GT. Mach 1 is way out of affordable monthly payment range :-/
Great video. Can't wait to see what the Mach 1 will do with the Steeda parts. I have a 2015 PP GT. Steeda springs, sway bars, vertical links, K member bracing, rear axle bracing, and shock tower brace. Incredible handling. Steeda makes great parts.
Excellent comparison. I am impressed how well the Mach1 did against a race prepped Q350 EB. Of course the EB is better around the track it damn well batter be with all the mods, brakes and track tires. The lighter car always beats the heavier one on a road course because of the speed it can carry through the curves. A race prepped Mach1 would be a good match for the Q350 😁👍👍
I honestly am saying this humbled, I have the gt pp1 and manual. When guys with the ecoboost start reving its a hair stratcher .I will never understand.Like alot of women
I'm really a fan of modern turbo engines... but this 4 cylinder Mustang just sounds like someone crashed a 5.0 into a tree and now tries to run away with a broken car :D
Its a shame that a Ford Ecoboost engine is still inferior to a VW TSi engine. It doesn't rev well. It can't make 400 crank HP as easy as the TSi. It heats up too fast. Volkswagen is far superior to Ford with turbo engines
The Ford eco boost engines hasn’t been out nearly as long as the Vw turbo engines have. I watched an modified Ecoboost straight up gap tf out of a RS3 from a dig on the same stretch the CTSV and Z06 ran on in my videos. That same stretch of rd the Audi and Eco ran on earlier that same night.
@@Sneaky5.sl0w. I specifically mentioned the Ford 2.3l ecoboost engine. The one derived out of the age old Mazda 2.3l block. The 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 ecoboost actually are ok and good but the 2.3 is very weak and the Ford 2.7l V6 is also good..the 3.5l ecoboost too is good but still inferior to 2.9l v6 of Audi and far inferior to Nissans 3.7l TT v6
@@VistaBlueGT Yes.. I said the Ford 3.5l TT s infetior to an Audi 2.9l v6 TfSi and it is weaker I ve seen how sluggish 3.5 eco is to rev out compared with the 2.9l of Audi which revs very fast for a V6 and makes insane power as low as 2000 rpm whereas even with lag compensation the ecoboost still feely laggy till 3000 rpm in a Ford Raptor
OMG,.. Really? A V-6 against a V-8? Or am I wrong on this vid? A PowerBoost 4.0, as impressive as the engine is, the suspension grip due to the light weight of the engine... Really? Come on man! A N/A 5.0 will dust a 4.0 V6 any day on the track or the dragstrip. Remember, Y'all gotta go stock vs stock... Performance mods are a different equation! I laughted at every inadequate Pony Car sporting a V6 on the road... Sigh....
Our Q350 build is not a V6, and this test was to compare how a stock vehicle compares to a modified and race-prepped car does on a brake-intensive course.
I have 2017 GT with some suspension improvements. This video tells me I should stick with it rather than trade up to a Mach 1, as it will likely be no quicker and possibly slower. Good buyer advice.
Next test should be 305 NT-01 square with an upgraded pad and track alignment without any upgraded suspension parts. Show what tires, alignment and pads do before adding special parts. The ecoboost is a purpose built track rat sporting a lot of negative camber front and rear.
The "sound" of that EcoBoost, I just can't 🤣
very interesting
I noticed that the center of gravity of the ecoboost was much faster from the edge to the center.
Love the video . So far my wife is really enjoying her Mach 1 . She enjoys it better than our 19 BULLITT she traded in to get the Mach 1 .
Must be nice to have money like dat
@@arizonacolour8793 haha thinking the same
When will she be taking it to the track?
i have yet to hear a good sounding ecoboost
Hard to sound good even harder to sound good on video 😂
@@Shaggie_Thrills Yeah, I have a straight pipe single exit on mine. I didn't want to spend 400 on an axle back and more on a resonator just to have it sound bad. Might as well sound bad (but very fun) for super cheap. It is fun though and does pop and crackle a lot. At this point I dont care that it doesn't sound all that good, but its so much more fun this way.
Also not too loud suprisingly.
I'm looking forward to taking my car to this track soon with a few friends!!!!!
Great Video Steeda, Thank you!
Question- why wasn’t there much discussion about the tires used on the Ecoboost?
It seems to me that would make a big difference in braking and corner speed.
They talked about the tires like 3x. 🙃
Nitto 315 Nitro NT-01 on the EB; stock Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on the Mach 1. Handling pack Mach 1 (which they were NOT using) has Cup 2’s. All that was covered in the video. Did you watch it?
For the EB haters (plenty of them) out there, the lap time tells the tale. Spend any time at a track with turns, and you will see Miyata's lapping heavy V8's all day long. Sure, the EB emits a sound like a fart-can. But the people hearing it are behind you. And now that it's been out for a while, proven power adders make it plenty quick, and pretty sorted out. They indirectly, point out the basic 5.0 V8 problem, weight. The EB has a lighter front end and a better center of mass for autocross, track days, etc. I added a Steeda Tri-Axe short shifter to mine, it's so fun to drive at all those events. (amongst plenty of other Steeda go-fast bits) Don't get me wrong, I dig V8's, I6's, W10's, V-Twins, etc. But, a 1:20, beats a 1:24 all day long.
really good points here, but i think its worth noting the EB has had a shit load of work to it, only to edge out the MACH 1 in its stock form. also i noticed the MACH1 had the back s seat and the EB had the deletion, as you pointed out weight is everything, i feel the EB, has probably removed a few items not needed, also keeping the weight down. So in conclusion as stock vehicles, the MACH 1 would win hands down. This has nothing to do with engine size rather a track proven/ready vehicle versus a standard road car.
Give any car over $4000 in suspension and it will perform well.
Great stuff fellas!
Looks like rain coming down during the timed Mach 1’s runs.
We addressed this towards the end of the video. Track conditions were very similar for both vehicles as it had just sprinkled before the EcoBoost went out as well. Hope this helps! -Chris
mach 1 blew the last brake zone compared to the ecoboost. probably more water on the track. i'd say that was worth about 2 seconds
@Chris & Steeda, I want to see the Handling Pack Mach1 timed against the GT350. Even if it's just a Stock HPM1 vs your Modified GT350.
We can do that going forward for sure
Great video! Can't wait for the Mach 1 track set up vs GT350. (both manual)
Very nice comparisons!
I'm sure the ecoboost is a great car. But I'm old school, driving a 5.0 manual is a really fun driving experience. That ecoboost won't last as long as a v8 will
It would be really hard to pass up on the Tremec manual for a 10R80.
They're both impressive! -Chris
That track was wet when the Mach 1 ran on it, you can see rain droplets on the windshield
We addressed this towards the end of the video. Track conditions were very similar for both vehicles as it had just sprinkled before the EcoBoost went out as well. Hope this helps! -Chris
You can definitely make an Ecoboost Mustang sound alright: ruclips.net/video/4odW0V_WLAg/видео.html
Sounds like Steeda built a fast track car……and hates it, lol. Love to see the turbo car with the 10 speed.
Mach Nasty all the way!
Nice vid
Do you guys have a parts list of what's on the Ecoboost?
Yup, you can check them all out here!
www.steeda.com/mustang-ecoboost-q350-build
@@steedaautosports Thankfully you changed out the crappy stock rotors that cool from the outside of the wheel instead of the inside from under the car
Wow, that Ecoboost just spanked that Mach 1 by over 4 seconds, on a short course. It just goes to show you that weight, handling, and brakes are more important than HP, when road racing.
Did you experience any oil starvation in the corners with stock pan? Curious about this since hoping to start tracking my 2018 later this year
Exactly what i want to ask too. Very intresting question.
We did not see any oil starvation! - Jamie
Awesome video comparison!!! Im still doing everything I can to try and sell my 2v to buy an affordable 15-18 GT. Mach 1 is way out of affordable monthly payment range :-/
Great video. Can't wait to see what the Mach 1 will do with the Steeda parts. I have a 2015 PP GT. Steeda springs, sway bars, vertical links, K member bracing, rear axle bracing, and shock tower brace. Incredible handling. Steeda makes great parts.
sounds like a Miata Cup
The driver has COVID
Driver was vaccinated and tested. -Chris
Cough
P T - I have seasonal allergies and cough into my elbow often enough. Never freaked anyone out until the China Flu came along.
@@The_Sword_Rules China flu eh ?
Are those 335 A7's?
315 Nitro NT01s! -Chris
@@steedaautosports Was the Mach 1 on the track pack wheels and tries, or was it the standard car?
The Mach 1 we have is the entry trim level so it was on the standard setup.
No helmet, no safety?
New Edge Coyote Swap people should be looking at ecoboost swaps instead...
Excellent comparison. I am impressed how well the Mach1 did against a race prepped Q350 EB. Of course the EB is better around the track it damn well batter be with all the mods, brakes and track tires. The lighter car always beats the heavier one on a road course because of the speed it can carry through the curves. A race prepped Mach1 would be a good match for the Q350 😁👍👍
I honestly am saying this humbled, I have the gt pp1 and manual. When guys with the ecoboost start reving its a hair stratcher .I will never understand.Like alot of women
Ecoboost makes pretty good power, that's all that matters
Kinda of a dumb comparison. the Ecoboost will never last as long as the V8 engine will. Ask any mechanic.
It was more so a comparison test between one of our race car versus a stock vehicle to see how well it would perform. - Sam
I'm really a fan of modern turbo engines... but this 4 cylinder Mustang just sounds like someone crashed a 5.0 into a tree and now tries to run away with a broken car :D
Its a shame that a Ford Ecoboost engine is still inferior to a VW TSi engine. It doesn't rev well. It can't make 400 crank HP as easy as the TSi. It heats up too fast. Volkswagen is far superior to Ford with turbo engines
i have an ecoboost and i agree with you sadly.
The Ford eco boost engines hasn’t been out nearly as long as the Vw turbo engines have. I watched an modified Ecoboost straight up gap tf out of a RS3 from a dig on the same stretch the CTSV and Z06 ran on in my videos. That same stretch of rd the Audi and Eco ran on earlier that same night.
@@Sneaky5.sl0w.
I specifically mentioned the Ford 2.3l ecoboost engine. The one derived out of the age old Mazda 2.3l block.
The 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 ecoboost actually are ok and good but the 2.3 is very weak and the Ford 2.7l V6 is also good..the 3.5l ecoboost too is good but still inferior to 2.9l v6 of Audi and far inferior to Nissans 3.7l TT v6
@@1989rs500 The Ford 3.5L inferior? That must be why FoMoCo decided to use that engine in the Ford GT, huh? You people crack me up. lmao
@@VistaBlueGT
Yes.. I said the Ford 3.5l TT s infetior to an Audi 2.9l v6 TfSi and it is weaker I ve seen how sluggish 3.5 eco is to rev out compared with the 2.9l of Audi which revs very fast for a V6 and makes insane power as low as 2000 rpm whereas even with lag compensation the ecoboost still feely laggy till 3000 rpm in a Ford Raptor
ecoboost lol enough said
That's what the Corvette guys said at Lemans running behind the Ford GT's
Cute🐎🐎🐎🎀
Jesus this guy needs to learn how to drive...
Our driver is actually a multinational racing winner
OMG,.. Really? A V-6 against a V-8? Or am I wrong on this vid? A PowerBoost 4.0, as impressive as the engine is, the suspension grip due to the light weight of the engine... Really? Come on man! A N/A 5.0 will dust a 4.0 V6 any day on the track or the dragstrip. Remember, Y'all gotta go stock vs stock... Performance mods are a different equation! I laughted at every inadequate Pony Car sporting a V6 on the road... Sigh....
Our Q350 build is not a V6, and this test was to compare how a stock vehicle compares to a modified and race-prepped car does on a brake-intensive course.
LOL this is a turbo 4 like the SVO not a V6. 4 cylinder means the front end is lighter so at least it's more agile than a V8. I'd still get the V8 tho