Should You Run OTS Tunes On Your Mustang? Stage 1 vs Stage 2 Cobb
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- In this video I go into detail on OTS tunes and discuss if they are safe to run or not. I compare the stage 1 and stage 2 tunes from Cobb. Stage tunes are usually fairly conservative compared to a pro tune however unlike a protune they are not specific to your car. We found out why this is important.
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Great presentation buddy, very comfortable in the camera. Appreciate the useful and detailed content. Like the mpgs of the ecoboost, bust was worried I’d miss a good exhaust note by not getting the GT.
Hey Thanks! I appreciate that. Yeah can’t argue with the GT exhaust note!
Good luck with all your mods, your videos are very helpful, I started doing some minor mods seeing your videos. I just ordered my cobb access port! I’m super excited for stage 1.
Very cool! I’m glad they have helped a bit! Thank you for watching!
Brother, you are so likeable. 🧡 You're going far. 💯
Great video. Killing it with the subs these days.
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
Great info again. I am probably going to pick up the C T for my booster as well. Your Stanger is coming right along. Take care.
Thanks Angel! Very nice! I recommend. We are getting there lol
I kept seeing a lot of negative ignition corrections with Cobb Stage 2 as well. When I switched to PD Tuning they pretty much went away. I feel MUCH better about my car now lol
Gotcha glad it’s not just me lol! Sweet I’m definitely going the PD tubing route soon. How’s the power compared to the stage 1 or stage 2 tunes from Cobb?
@@daily_driven You give up a little bit of the low end torque but more than make up for it in the mids and highs. The boost comes on perfectly. I would definitely say I prefer the power in the protune.
Cool! Yeah I think that might be better overall. Hopefully more of a linear power curve. Plus probably safer lol
@@daily_driven I do feel safer not seeing all of those negative ignition corrections, thats for sure! Haha Are you thinking of adding any other tunes (e.g., burble, automatic transmission) ?
Dude ur videos are amazing thank for actually explaining and be honest
Thanks man! Appreciate that! Happy to help 👍
Excellent video very informative answered most of my questions.
So you been using the coob stage 1 tune with the cvf intercooler for a while now and had no issues?
you always give really good info. love the channel.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
Yeah same I think off the shelf may be risky with Stage 2 and up. Pro tune is just a much safer bet to not possibly screwing up
Yeah that’s what I think too. Pro tune will have to be next lol
Hey just recently started watching ur vids bro. Loving them. I just recently got a 2018 premium performance package with 3514 miles. I ordered a roush cai. And plan on getting the intercooler u installed in your last vid. Should I get a Cobb and run the stage 1 or at this point those mods could I get pro tuned?
Hey! Awesome thanks for watching! That’s nice man, brand new with only 3k miles on it! With those mods I would get the Cobb access port and pull the trigger on the pro tune from PD tuning. You could run the stage 1 Cobb file if you wanted to wait on the pro tune, but that intercooler is the key when going pro tune. Pro tune is next on my list.
21 ecoboost A10 cobb ots stage 1 93 ran 13.1 best now ots stage 2 93 12.7 best. Currently tuning with PD but running into an issue with the cobb that impacts 21-23 ecoboost. Looking fwd to a ethanol tune. Btw the stage 2 12.7 is with a CVF street IC and stock cai. The only other mod I have is NextStep axle back exhaust.
Looks like the exhaust mods paid off lol. Sounds perfect
Hey thanks! I think it’s at a good volume now not tooooo crazy lol
@@daily_driven what all have you done?
As far as mods go I have a few videos out on the current mods but AIRAID intake tube, AFE dry drop in filter. NGK plugs 1 step colder from tune plus, flowmaster y pipe and outlaw axle back exhaust, JLT catch can, CVF street intercooler and the Cobb tuner running the stage 1 tune.
Add a can of octanium or some e30 and your issue on stage 2 will go away and pull awesome.
hell yeah, right now i have an the same intercooler and some charge pipes, about to get my 3inch downpipe, mbpr exhaust and intake. going to get a pro tune and have them do 93 and E30.
I think you have to use COBB intake / COBB innercooler for stage 2. Your using cheap drop in filter and different brand innercool which COBB stage 2 IS not designed for or tuned on...
That may be. However I’m using a AFE drop in filter that is identical to the Cobb filter plus the AIRAID intake tube which is slightly larger diameter compared to the Cobb intake. This has been proven to be more effective than most aftermarket intakes out there.The intercooler from CVF is great though and it very similar in size to the Cobb unit. So I don’t think that would change anything. I think it more has to do with Cobb tunes are very generic and not specific to “your” car. Since every car is slightly different some may have different experiences with their tunes than others.
@@daily_driven that larger diameter intake would throw the tune off as the MAF sensor is calibrated for the specific diameter and air flow of the cobb access system, you are probably running lean and knocking so the ECM is pulling timing to compensate.
Hi bro, can i check what is the increase/max bhp between cobb stg 1 vs stock ?
Same goes for torque, what was the diff between stg1 n stock
I’m thinking about buying an accessport. I’ve installed s&b intake and a catback exhaust, would I be safe running Stage 1 91 octane with those mods?
Yeah you would be fine with that! Stage 1 Cobb only requires a drop in filter technically. I’ve been running stage 1 for over a year now no problems. However if you want more power than what stage one can give then I would say go pro tune. I saw a lot of negative ignition correction on stage 2 Cobb.
@@daily_driven Awesome, thanks for the feedback! I’m not looking to go crazy with modding, just wanted to get a little more power than what i currently have
Not a problem! Then I think you will like stage 1 for sure!
nice exhaust sound , what system is that or custom ?
Thanks! I think in this video it was just the flowmaster outlaw axle back but now I have the scavenger y pipe as well. I have a few vids on it 🙂
so i just bought cobb and the filter so i can rock the stage 1 safe it seems. Im going to do downpipe next but will stage 1 with downpipe will be ok? i mean im sure its not gonna give the 100% of the dp but it will do better right? im not sure
Yeah stage 1 with the drop in filter you should be just fine. Depends if your going catless or not. I’ve heard a few story’s on people running catless downpipes without a tune designed for them and have had issues. Personally I would go pro tune if you get a down pipe to insure your tuned for it.
@@daily_driven what do u mean by going pro tuned ? Like custom tuned ?
huh maybe this is why im having some slight issues. i was getting some neg adjustment, we did a carb cleaning (almost 50k miles) and put in some iridium plugs, it seemed to go away, only getting pos adjustments now. But i have stock intake with intercooler and charge pipes.
Also the reason you have to unplug your negative battery is because the car is still looking for your stage 1 tune and them fuel maps for that and I wonder what type of boost you're creating and Stage 2 I'm getting around 26 that's what the Cobb reading and I haven't had any issues so far I've been running it for about a month and I don't get little to none ignition correction car runs fine
Gotcha! I hit around 25 psi on stage 2 when I was running it not to bad
I'm a huge fan of yours. I recently went ecoboom. Don't know exactly what happened. Went full retard in short order. Started off with cobb stage 1 and within 2 months went full bolt on. Full exhaust downpipe intake Intercooler and oil catch can. Then went got it pro tuned with burble. Tuned if for 2 months just about done with the tune being 100% done. Data logs looked good and then started to get misfires on cylinder 3. Oil was getting into the combustion chamber. Keep changing the spark plug. Then shifted from 1st into 2nd gear at 2900 rpm and boom. Piston went through the block. I truly don't think the mods or tune did it. I dogged out the car not gonna lie. When I get it back my driving habits will change. Lesson learned don't beat on the car and you should be good. Car had 47k miles
Hi Marcus! Thanks man! Sorry to hear about the Ecoboom! I hope your car is back on the road soon! If you don’t mind me asking who did you go with for tuning?
@@daily_driven Went with Ryan from PD tuning. Awesome experience. He is very knowledgeable and even helped with a gasket leak a had from the downpipe install free of charge. Will definitely be going to him again if/when I decide to tune the car again with a more conservative safer tune. At max I was hitting 29 psi (according to the cobb gauges) which is what I think the beginning of the end was.
What do you think of the PD-Tuning 2015-2020 Ford Mustang Ecoboost Custom Tune for COBB ProTune Accessport 3 . I have the cvf fab intercooler, hks blow off valve, roush intake, cvf downpipe and the borla race Atak catback exhaust
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I think you should do it! I’m going to go with PD soon! I have been holding off because I am getting wheels first but after that, I’m definitely going PD tuning!
Thank you so much for advice , sick channel looking to view your channel more 🙏
Hey I recently got a Cobb access port for my 2020 eco. I installed the stage 0 tune and noticed that I get about a -2.3 ignition correction on random cylinders. I also get positive corrections. Have you had any negative corrections and if so how high where they? Thank you in advanced!
Hey! I haven’t checked recently so I’ll have to do that again. Was the negative correction under Wot? Or just cruising?
@@daily_driven I just got a mount for the accessport today so ill have to check that now. I want to say it was usually just crusing around and not wot.
Isn’t the stage 0 tune the stock tune? That’s what Cobb does when you first set it up on your ecoboost (stage 1 = CAI only, stage 2 = CAI+intercooler, stage 3 = stage 2 plus down pipe/cat back upgrades).
I just set my tune back to 0, so I could run 87 gas until prices go back down.
@@E52O4 I heard that its "like the stock tune" but isn't the same exact tune but similar.
Hey what's up man I had the same problem when I uploaded my stage 2 and I was getting all types of negative readings as well what I done was unplug the negative part of your battery and I deleted stage 2 Cobb and reuploaded it again and when I done that all my negatives went away I'm a get a negative every once in awhile but not a real high- negative hope this helps oh and by the way how much oil blow-by did you have in your factory intercooler
Hey man! Gotcha I’ll give that a shot! Could have been a bad tank of gas as well. Maybe we will try again in the future. I appreciate it!
Also I really didn’t see any blow by in my stock intercooler. I think it maybe because I have a catch can as well
@@daily_driven yea I just got mine in got to get the intake side as well any way keep it up bro have any questions let me know ill be going for 400 hp soon
Very cool! Will do thanks! Let me know when you get to 400hp. I’m sure it will be awesome!
Aren't you concerned about voiding your factory warranty by adding the larger intercooler and changing the "tune"?
I’m at just about 60k miles so no mote warranty anyways once I hit 60k. So no not worried. Also the intercooler is unlikely to void warranty, the tune however probably would.
@@daily_driven Ok. Thanks. I'm still in factory warranty and will just have to wait to do any mods. My stock Ecoboost actually exceeded my expectations.
I never liked stage 2 just felt funny but stage 3 is the best, Get a 3 inch turbo back and feel the power.
So can I buy stage 2 for the intake and inter cooler and then bring it to get tuned professionally instead of that device?
You can buy the parts and Cobb tuner and then contact PD tuning. From what I hear they do a great job at custom tuning! I’m going to them soon!
@@daily_driven got it was only wondering because I'm stationed in Hawaii and want to know if it would be possible to do cause there aren't many tuners around.
replace ur charge pipes(i went with SR performance) and fuel pressure sensor before you do.
Can I run stage 1 with a kn cai installed. Only current mod.
I would think so, stage 1 only requires a drop in filter and is pretty mild. But it’s noticeable for sure! 🙂
Pd tunning let's go
Yes Definitely that’s the plan! Thanks for watching!
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what is the top speed you have hit with the cobb access port so far
Not that fast, maybe a little over 100mph. I haven’t done any top speed runs as of yet. Need to go to Mexico for that!
I hit 136 on an stage 2 cobb
Hey, I just loaded the stage 1 and i’ve been watching my ign correction and it goes negative sometimes. My cyl 3 even got to 2.16. Does yours do that on stage 1?
-2.16*
Hey! Are you seeing that negative correction under normal driving or WOT? I will sometimes see a little negative correction under normal driving but you never want to see it under full throttle. I would recommend buying the pregapped NGK plugs from tune plus. They are one step colder and a good idea for anyone going to stage 1 or farther.
@@daily_driven Yes i see that negative correction under very minimal acceleration when driving by normal. For example giving it a little gas to merge on the highway. Mild Acceleration of a red light etc. Never went negative under full throttle pulls. I ordered the plugs from Tune + a couple days ago so hopefully i should be fine.
@@jadbarazi4138 any updates? Still going negative??
i been reading in on this negative timing correction did anyone contact cobb and ask them why there off the shelf ,/ canned tunes go negative vs. the stock tune ? and why ?