Maybe, but I'm still not convinced that accelerating slower for longer is better that accelerating faster and getting to the cruising speed sooner and longer. Maybe I will do an hour loop test sometime, but that will take a full day! Lol I didn't put all the footage in or it would have been a 30min video. There were 2 towns and 2 stop signs.
I think your test shows that **how** you drive makes more difference than most anything. Each of the three tests was driven exactly the same. Most people using Sport mode do it to put their foot in it and have fun. That will not be as efficient as driving conservatively in Eco mode
Yes, ultimately no matter what drive mode, your driving style will make a difference. I was trying to show how the computer is set up for each mode. A lot of people believed that more city, stop and go traffic would make a big difference, so I did a video on that also.
Accelerating harder draws more power than accelerating slower. Cruise control will not show this. A more accurate test would involve the different modes in a more urban area with stop signs/lights.
I agree that accelerating harder (sport) does draw more power than accelerating slower. not debating that, but the question is accelerating slower taking longer to get to speed using the same or more power than a shorter more aggressive acceleration and being at cruising speed sooner therefore using less power earlier and longer. It does seem to be the concensus that it will be more beneficial in a busier area with more stop and go.
@@offtheshelfrides Oh thanks for the question. I was interested in long term reviews, real world consumption and accessories and you habe a lot of good content for that 👍🏻 But I do have a question for the hot summer time because I’ll get my ID4 this summer: What are the effects in range/consumption of the air conditioning? Is it better to cool the car down while charging/before the trip (long soft process) or is it more efficient to start the cooling process when you enter the car (short intense process). Is it really necessary to think about it that much? :-) I really do like your conclusion about the sport and eco mode and hope for a similar and straight forward recommendation :-)
@@MrSchneiderish my suggestion is to turn on the climate control before you leave while it is plugged in, that way you don't lose any charge while the climate control is running. Same for winter. If you wait and just get in the car and go and let it cool or heat, it will reduce your range by 10-15 miles because it is using so much energy to cool/heat the car and the battery. You will probably get a heat pump with the European model to help heat/cool the battery also.
Thanks for the videos. Very interesting,but possibly a little predictable in result. My understanding of the modes is tat you are correct in saying it is mainly acceleration that changes, but also with eco mode there will be an a reduction in power to the climate control. Since you were running with cruise control engaged you have removed the main difference between port and comfort, with a smaller affect in eco. This explains why you got the results that you did. A better test would be to avoid cruise control and drive manually in each mode, being careful to avoid differences in your own driving style, preferably over more than one journeyman time and on roads with a greater variation of speeds and conditions. No, I wouldn't have the patience to do that either.! I would suggest Euclid you feel relaxed or comfort for most driving, keeping sport for fun. Sport will give slightly worse energy consumption, slightly better. I drive a Skoda Enyaq
Hillingdon My last post, I drive an Enyaq, which is a mechanically identical to the Id4 so hopefully have a suitable comparison. I drive in comfort because it avoids the need to select mode each time, I'm too lazy! Incidentally, kW refers to power but kWh refers to battery capacity. Energy consumption is therefore correctly stated as miles per kWh.
Using the cruise control still reduced the power in each mode. What others stated was that it may make more of a difference in the city with more stop/go traffic and stop lights. That video is coming soon. I drive in comfort mostly. Only switch to sport if someone thinks they wants race...lol
yes, that is a thought. I used B to get the regenerative Braking to maximize the energy. I am hearing though to use D mode for long distance driving and B modes for normal and in town driving.
Maybe do the same test, but drive manually and mash the accelerator at every turn… drive aggressively. Eco and comfort should limit your acceleration more than sport.
These test are about the car and its programming, trying to take the human factor out as much as possible so it's a more accurate test. In your scenario, I could easily fluctuate my speed and acceleration which would alter mode results
@@offtheshelfrides I completely understand but what you have proven is that in any mode, automatic drive is the same. If you do what I suggested you’ll find out how much the drive mode truly effects the mileage. I believe that in eco mode, no matter how hard you hit the accelerator, it will be more conservative. I’d like to know that answer.
it shouldn't have made a difference because we had a tailwind the first half of the drive. only possible effect would have been since the accelerator has less power in eco mode, then it may have been more active than in the other modes. but that would mean I was correct about it using more power than sport mode
I would guess you would see more of a difference in stop and go situations vs a constant speed on a run like this.
I was going to say the same thing.
Maybe, but I'm still not convinced that accelerating slower for longer is better that accelerating faster and getting to the cruising speed sooner and longer.
Maybe I will do an hour loop test sometime, but that will take a full day! Lol I didn't put all the footage in or it would have been a 30min video. There were 2 towns and 2 stop signs.
I think your test shows that **how** you drive makes more difference than most anything. Each of the three tests was driven exactly the same. Most people using Sport mode do it to put their foot in it and have fun. That will not be as efficient as driving conservatively in Eco mode
Yes, ultimately no matter what drive mode, your driving style will make a difference. I was trying to show how the computer is set up for each mode.
A lot of people believed that more city, stop and go traffic would make a big difference, so I did a video on that also.
really like that silver color. more than i thought i would. sharp looking ride
Thank You
Accelerating harder draws more power than accelerating slower. Cruise control will not show this. A more accurate test would involve the different modes in a more urban area with stop signs/lights.
I agree that accelerating harder (sport) does draw more power than accelerating slower. not debating that, but the question is accelerating slower taking longer to get to speed using the same or more power than a shorter more aggressive acceleration and being at cruising speed sooner therefore using less power earlier and longer.
It does seem to be the concensus that it will be more beneficial in a busier area with more stop and go.
Thanks a lot for the test and your work here. I really appreciate it. Keep up the good quality!
Greetings from Germany
Your welcome! I enjoy doing it, is there anything specific you would like to see?
@@offtheshelfrides Oh thanks for the question. I was interested in long term reviews, real world consumption and accessories and you habe a lot of good content for that 👍🏻
But I do have a question for the hot summer time because I’ll get my ID4 this summer:
What are the effects in range/consumption of the air conditioning? Is it better to cool the car down while charging/before the trip (long soft process) or is it more efficient to start the cooling process when you enter the car (short intense process).
Is it really necessary to think about it that much? :-)
I really do like your conclusion about the sport and eco mode and hope for a similar and straight forward recommendation :-)
@@MrSchneiderish Great! Feel free to ask questions anytime! Stay Safe!
@@MrSchneiderish my suggestion is to turn on the climate control before you leave while it is plugged in, that way you don't lose any charge while the climate control is running. Same for winter. If you wait and just get in the car and go and let it cool or heat, it will reduce your range by 10-15 miles because it is using so much energy to cool/heat the car and the battery. You will probably get a heat pump with the European model to help heat/cool the battery also.
@@offtheshelfrides thanks again, I’ll do that! I ordered my ID4 with a heat pump to get every extra mile on the road.
Thanks for the videos. Very interesting,but possibly a little predictable in result. My understanding of the modes is tat you are correct in saying it is mainly acceleration that changes, but also with eco mode there will be an a reduction in power to the climate control. Since you were running with cruise control engaged you have removed the main difference between port and comfort, with a smaller affect in eco. This explains why you got the results that you did. A better test would be to avoid cruise control and drive manually in each mode, being careful to avoid differences in your own driving style, preferably over more than one journeyman time and on roads with a greater variation of speeds and conditions. No, I wouldn't have the patience to do that either.! I would suggest Euclid you feel relaxed or comfort for most driving, keeping sport for fun. Sport will give slightly worse energy consumption, slightly better. I drive a Skoda Enyaq
Hillingdon My last post, I drive an Enyaq, which is a mechanically identical to the Id4 so hopefully have a suitable comparison. I drive in comfort because it avoids the need to select mode each time, I'm too lazy! Incidentally, kW refers to power but kWh refers to battery capacity. Energy consumption is therefore correctly stated as miles per kWh.
Using the cruise control still reduced the power in each mode.
What others stated was that it may make more of a difference in the city with more stop/go traffic and stop lights. That video is coming soon. I drive in comfort mostly. Only switch to sport if someone thinks they wants race...lol
The Kw/Kwh thing is just my wording. I forget which one to say sometimes, lol.
Thanks for testing and sharing. I thought D and B modes could make some differences for ECO or Sport mode.
yes, that is a thought. I used B to get the regenerative Braking to maximize the energy. I am hearing though to use D mode for long distance driving and B modes for normal and in town driving.
Regeneration also occurs in D mode, via braking
@@davejones1674 yes it does
The manual states the D does apply a soft regenerative braking in Eco mode.
@@tobiewolfen01 yes, but it very slight
iam from france and i own an id4 pro in black the eco mode limit your speed to 130km per hour and the climate control is reduced to 20degrees celcius
interesting, I haven't noticed any limitations on our climate control.
Maybe do the same test, but drive manually and mash the accelerator at every turn… drive aggressively. Eco and comfort should limit your acceleration more than sport.
These test are about the car and its programming, trying to take the human factor out as much as possible so it's a more accurate test. In your scenario, I could easily fluctuate my speed and acceleration which would alter mode results
@@offtheshelfrides I completely understand but what you have proven is that in any mode, automatic drive is the same. If you do what I suggested you’ll find out how much the drive mode truly effects the mileage. I believe that in eco mode, no matter how hard you hit the accelerator, it will be more conservative. I’d like to know that answer.
Our ID 4 tops out at 80mph in eco mode
Wow, I haven't tested that yet.
Do you think that the head wind affected the numbers on the test ??
it shouldn't have made a difference because we had a tailwind the first half of the drive. only possible effect would have been since the accelerator has less power in eco mode, then it may have been more active than in the other modes. but that would mean I was correct about it using more power than sport mode
Eco mode maybe better for the tire life?
The drive modes don't affect the tire life. EVs are heavier than their ICE equivalent and the added weight is the major factor for increased tire wear
Is sport the same as individual?
You can set up a custom drive with different parameters to drive the way you want to.
You probably wasn't using sport mode to its potential hence no difference.
I was driving them all in the same manner to see the difference in software settings and not my driving style.
My typing is terrible!
Lol, I understood everything just fine.
Ioniq 5 is dead plain
You scared the shit out of me with that stupid white noise loud as f...
Lol, yea. Didn't mean to scare you. That was old style, we have moved past that...lol