Flash, Why The Joker Is Scared Of Him
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One thing I loved about the "Don't come to Central City" story was the villians saying "Batman will break your bones, Superman will put you in jail, But The Flash; He'll TALK to you, make you feel like you can do better and that you're disappointing him"
“Listen I got into crimes because of parental neglect and trauma I try my hardest not to acknowledge. I can handle physical pain, but feeling MORE like a disappointment? NOOOO THANK YOU! I am not even a D tier villain, people only bring up me to mention how stupid my gimmick is, I already feel like a disappointment!”
Honestly if I had been at that table, I’d have just sighed, told Flash to come on in and ask if he wanted to be dealt in.
The Flash is going to do his thing, no point making a mess over it.
@@beywheelzhater8930 Flash should've been a psychotherapist. He'd be a freaking NATURAL.
superman would do that too. In fact, he did
@@ameerkhan3257 Superman would be a motivational speaker / " life coach " or something similar.
He can move faster than you can even think. It's a wonder more characters aren't scared of him.
It's hard to be scared of someone when you know that you won't be killed or crippled for life.
@Alex Ramos Well, there's the whole stealing your speed and freezing you into a living statue that can see and hear.
Because Flash is a good guy, he would paint an old lady's fence and punch out a crook in the same day and say it's just another Monday.
In reality flash can’t be touched but for theatrical reasons the simplest person can lay hands on him
I'd say it's like with spiderman, where he isn't taking himself seriously so his villains don't either., until he stops joking and just beats their asses.
Plus, like spiderman, barry is constantly pulling his punches when he could kill all his villains in an instant (think of when doc ock took over peter's body and accidentally punched scorpions jaw clean off, not realising how strong he actually was).
The idea of condiment man having to suffer in the desert for a year surviving off his condiments is as absurd as it is hilarious
He should be punished for choosing such a PATHETIC name.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq if your powers were ketchup, mayo, and mustard, what would you name yourself?
@@ninjaguyYT The Burger King ? 😆" King on a bun, Number ONE ". Captain Cholesterol.
Whats funnier is he likely wasn't stuck in the dessert for the full year but had no way to get home without a passport or likely even a wallet.
@@kagato3 That would be *RICH* The embodiment of it.
I always like these "villains sitting around talking" stories. It reminds me of the joke where the villains talk about how they all know superman is actually clark kent but purposefully don't attack him because when he's clark it's the only break they get.
I need the source for this
@@joshuaianespanola3944 source for what?
@@wheelsndealzthink he’s looking for the comic this appeared in, I’ve seen it too but can’t remember where I saw it.
@@Azur_Animeif he means the source from the video idk why he'd be commenting on me. Otherwise, there's no source of anything else. I said it reminded me of a joke I heard. There's not really a source to give.
and that there is a rule to never mess with louis lane
Even Batman told the Flash that he does "tight efficient work"
High praise coming from Batman
Wally's like Bruce in some ways, except in temperament.
Coming from the most ineffecient hero in jl
@@Agent-57 Or the person writing their part of the script.....
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eqI think in more ways that’s Barry more than wall because Barry too is a detective
Reverse Flash:
“Back off clown, he’s mine to ruin”
That in fact might literally be the most Eobard Thawne thing to do if it was for Barry
@@ThatYellowSpiderGuythawne still wouldn't allow anyone else to hurt Barry's relatives thawne doesn't only attack Barry but almost the entire flash family
Its always a weird moment when one villain who is specifically geared around a hero suddenly crosses path with a very different hero with very different abilities and personality
Especially considering the amount of supervillains that are literally just "the hero but different color". Black beatle. Black adam. Yellow Ring. Hell flash has enough evil speedsters to start a basketball team.
@@RayTheomoLOL The Anti Flash Flyers. Their currently 6-24 in the league standings🤣
@@ahc93 they speeding to the finals but it seems that reverse flash has actually fouled barry allen for no other reason than petty spite, and wally west just performed an *ankle breaker* on zoom.
@@projekttaku1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@projekttaku1 Godspeed with the lob assist to Savitar as he slams it down on Bart Allen!!! This game sure is heating up!!!🤣🤣🤣
The Flash vs Joker part reminds of that moment in the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" event in which the Joker, while being chased by Batman as usual, suddenly encounters a manifestation of the Flash's spirit, to which he tells visibly upset that facing Central City's hero is completely unfair for him. Despite being completely insane, the Joker has still enough sanity to not mess with good old Barry
This flash he messed with in the issue was Wally but yeah any flash would be a pain to mess with.
There are only three things that scare the Joker:
- what's behind the Source Wall
- the IRS
- and The Flash
@@safebox36 Wait, where did it say he’s afraid of what’s behind the source wall?
@@safebox36iirc wasn’t he also scared of the batman who laughs?
@@caylya7869 Yeah I've never seen anything saying he's scared of what's behind the source wall or that he even has any knowledge about it but it also might just not be well documented. I think the Batman who laughs had knowledge about the source wall but even with that I'm not really sure so I'd have to look that up later.
Joker's whole thing is psychological torture. It's hard to psychologically torture a dude who can literally put you in your cell halfway across the city before you can blink
You also got to remember, if his messing with wally he can maybe do something, and I say maybe because speedster are too quick at times to even attempt it do some psychological torture, but barry nope not even possible. One reason what can the joker do that Thawne hasn't already done or tried.
@@tinchinsaber6438 Wally is faster then Barry. At least now he is. When he was a teen he was slower then Barry but not anymore
@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 I know just saying that because what the reverse flash has done or tried doing to barry, joker has no hope at doing any psychological torture to him unlike wally even if he can get that far.
@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 the difference in speed between wally and barry is negligible compared to what they could do with the joker lmao
@@tinchinsaber6438 ^this is the real thing, barry already deals with a joker with super speed and time travel abilities, joker aint anything special
Wally chasing a villain to the end of the universe just to save a girl's lollipop is the most Wally thing ever and that's why I love him as the Flash. It's a shame Adams got kicked off the series because its moments like these that made me love his run so much.
The prologue to the new series looks alright. Don't like how Linda is written but we will see in September if Spurrier can fill Adams' shoes.
Wally's a people person, & his mother was murdered when he was a kid, so he's got empathy towards kids being mistreated.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq same with the flash tho
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq I don't recall his mother being murdered. Her and his dad are alive but they just didn't treat him well.
@@firesnakex8 Flashpoint Paradox had Wally going home & seeing the police at his house, his mother murdered then many years later he broke the time barrier in an attempt to either save her or just SEE her again. Which was where things became FUBAR.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq That was Barry Allen not Wally.
10:20
*Fun fact:* Beast Boy is actually a huge Flash fan. In fact, before he became a hero, he witnessed the first time Barry traveled to Earth-Two while showing him and other children his speedster powers.
Yeah he was the narrator in Flash of 2 Worlds
@@Crazy-Gaonk
One of it’s re-tellings in Secret Origins.
A post-Crisis retelling that reveals Jay Garrick Flash and all of Keystone City were in suspended animation by Fiddler, Shade, and Thinker, before Barry Allen Flash discovered and freed Keystone City with Jay’s help.
In my headcanon, the post-Crisis version of Flash of Two Worlds show Jay Garrick being active as the Golden Age Flash from 1939 to 1951 before he and Keystone City were in suspended animation on the night that Barry Allen was strucked by lightning and made his debut as the Silver Age Flash in the modern era (which is, in my head canon, 17 years before Secret Origins Vol 2 50 in 1990, or 38 years before Dawn of DC in 2023). Four years after Barry’s debut, he would discover Keystone City and would team up with Jay Garrick Flash to free Keystone City from suspended animation and defeat Fiddler, Shade, and Thinker.
@ThatYellowSpiderGuy
Given how Ethan turned out, kinda makes sense.
I love seeing stories about why The Joker doesn't visit other cities. I love the canon one where Superman breaks him down mentally, toys with him using his powers that Joker hadn't thought about, and informing the Joker that Superman _only kills when he absolutely must_ (since he deals with giant monsters and stuff) the Joker just decides that there is no fun to be had in Metropolis.
Bruh would get turned to a red mist if he ever went to Themyscira Island to start shit.
@@The-Deadite Force him to get therapy while bound with the Lasso of Truth. He'd have a complete meltdown not being able to hide behind tons of lies.
@@PosthumanHeresy "why are you like this?"
*joker goes in a 3 day meltdown rant*
@@PosthumanHeresy Or collapse in a blubbering heap then go catatonic trying to sort out all the lies that he's told over the years.
If it’s the same comic I’m thinking he mentions that batman doesn’t kill because some code ware as he doesn’t just because
It's not just Joker, everyone should be scared of someone who can go back in past and delete your entire bloodline from history.
I don't think flash would be so quick to jump to time travelling to the past after a certain series of events.
*cough cough* flashpoint *cough cough*
in the Story they just have Wally as Central City's Flash (Fuck Keystone, I guess?). So, the only thing keeping Villains from realising Wally would never do that is the Change from Wally West having a public identity...
@@InsertNameHere649 but he can be flash again O_o just like flashpoint.
Omni-Man doesn't even want that smoke!
@@InsertNameHere649 flashpoint is plot convenience to lecture people about time travel just like those that lecture us about living forever is wrong, yet zoom has travelled back in time to kill barrys mom, so screw the storylines, its all fictitous so you can right in whatever you want
Batman puts Joker back in Arkham for the 1000th time and Joker is like “meh I’ll try again later.”
Flash puts him back in Gotham ONCE and he’s like “OH HELL NO. NEVER AGAIN.” 😂 I’ll admit that’s impressive.
Flash ended his fun before it could begin.
Maybe the Joker suffers from tachnophobia?
Must have been the commute.
Flash took way less time to stop him than Joker took on thinking the plan.....
My favorite moment in DC comics was when Batman tried to threaten Flash, and Flash calmly said, "The only reason you touched me I'd because you're upset and I let you, because youre my friend."
Except a bunch of times we see flash get hit by someone like Captain Boomerang. If that crazy australian can get a few good hits in when Flash doesn't expect it, Batman could too. Flash can't always be on guard. 95% of the time, yeah Batman couldn't touch him. But it's still better than the .01% chance any normal person has.
@@kyleellis1825 that's the cw show which isn't super canonical to any comics. no one is touching the flash, you should look into how fast they can process events
@@Atomicitalia And you should look at the dozens of comics where Captain Boomerang does touch the Flash, along with all the other Rogues.
@@kyleellis1825 the flashes biggest weakness is the writers
@@Atomicitalia The fans biggest weakness is constantly denying the countless instances of Flash getting distracted/touched by a normal person/sent flying in a fight.
Flash is perfect because of his abilities on paper. But Flash is human and he makes a ton of mistakes. Just because he can think faster, doesn't mean he's going to get the right answer. A million monkeys with typewriters will in fact not write Shakespeare.
I love Flash because he almost always gives you a chance to just make things right and go about your business. It’s when either you pass on that option or are too hard core that he makes your life difficult. And even then, it’s mainly just a huge inconvenience. The reason no one messes with him is that he does it in such an overwhelming and yet casual way that you know without a shadow of a doubt that you want to keep this guy jovial.
He recognized that the Trickster hadn't taken his medication, so where any other superhero would open a 12 - pack of whupass on him, he simply advises him to take it then turn himself in.
Well said man
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Batman would legit cripple him for life while yelling “I AM BATMAN”
@@void-os9mz I think that all the Flashes have studied Sun - Tzu's Art of War.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eqtheir power is so overwhelming they can actually afford to apply those tactics 💀
As he should be
The Flash can run at speeds enough to time travel
Don't mess with a guy who can end all crime on the planet in mere seconds
But doesn't cause comics.
@@flamelover1746the comics nerf him so that villains can have a chance. That's why the flash is as powerful depending on who's writing him. He could be a God in some cases and outrun death and in others he can barely outrun a train lol (looking at you CW)
Though this is true, sometimes I like to imagine The Flash doesn't run at High Velocities because he's afraid he can destroy everything or everyone with mere speed. So he limits himself to prevent it
Of course, I can't say this to anyone as an Actual Point, because there's moments he has ran impossibly fast.
@@flamelover1746 But that's not just the Flash. The comics massively dub down the accomplishments of Superman who even he has incredible feats of speed and can apparently think faster than light, although he can't move as fast. The problem with Flash is if he tries to change the past with his speed he messes up the timeline. It's a double-edged sword.
A guy who can undo all crime to have ever been done on the planet in mere seconds
Im pretty sure that this has happened in marvel at one point. A bunch of villians were talking about all the best and worst places to commit crime in New York, saying stuff like how if you run into Spider-Man to play along with his quips and he'll go easy on you, that daredevil will probably break something inside of you, and how you never want to be anywhere that the punisher's been spoted at recently.
I recall this as well, but I remember Luke Cage being the one to leave people with broken bones, I think Daredevil was something like stop fighting early and he won’t leave you in the hospital
@@waz207nice
Break something on the inside? Like physically or emotionally/mentally?
@@rashaunellis1339 honestly I was just blanking on the word bone.
@@rashaunellis1339it means he will go inside him from the back
It’s pretty crazy to think flash could mess with the joker more ways, than he can do to him. Flash could take joker back to the ice age and leave there. Take him to a prison in the far future. He can annoy him to death and he couldn’t do anything about it. Even go back and time to stop his origins or find record evidence of his true identity before it was destroyed. Give to Batman and him in prison forever.
Basically what thawn would do
depending on which continuity you subscribe to, Batman already knows the Joker's true identity.
Tell that to Injustice movie joker lmao
still what a lame way to remove flash
Or take him back to 79 A.D. / BCE ( Pompeii, Vesuvius eruption ), or the Mesozoic era, prevent the Joker from being born, or simply keep Spinach - Top's parents from meeting. It would create an alternate timeline rather than making the fabric of space - time blow up, implode or come unraveled, according to Professor Hulk, AKA Bruce Banner. " So Back to the Future's a bunch of bullsh-t ? ".
or just pick the point in time that traumatize him so much that he became the joker and prevent the trama from ever happening then joker would be alive but not joker.🤔🤨🧐
I think he should be scared of Barry, because Barry disproves his entire thesis that anyone would be as bad as the Joker given enough trauma. Barry has had worse shit happen to him than the Joker at the hands of Reverse Flash. He has had multiple friends die in front of him, he has been put on trial by his own friends for killing Eobard, he has been forced to fight and kill his own best friend, his mother was killed, his wife was killed. And despite all this, Barry remains a happy-go-lucky wisecracking guy who leads with compassion when facing his foes. His mere existence is proof that Joker is wrong.
Martian Manhunter actually watched his whole world die and he's a telepath. He felt it too.
I just want some other heroes to meet up with Joker and laugh at the whole 1 bad day thing. "One bad day turned you into this clown? Many, you really are pathetic, I've had at least 10 days worse than that this month."
I thought the Jokers thing was "all it takes is one bad day". Which means that some people live life already on the brink. Usually due to mental issues or whatever. So all it takes is a traumatic event to set them off.
It's not how much trauma its how you react to it. Everyone is different, we're all a random distance away from insanity, and we can all be pushed there. Some are just closer than others.
@@FidelCashflow_YT But that excludes all the trauma that led up to that point. Batman already had his one bad day and it turned him into Batman, not the Joker.
Then he had a bunch more bad days as Batman and very few versions of went bad. Joker is trying to make himself feel better for being so weak he broke after one bad day.
Heroes don't break with a single bad day. It takes dozens/hundreds of them stacking up. Weak people... Villains, are the ones who go evil because they had a bad day.
@@kyleellis1825 Well that's my point tho, everyone is different. We have mentally strong people, and weak people as well. In some of the multi verses. Batman don't turn out that way...
@@FidelCashflow_YT One Bad day onky works if Joker only goes after a person once. But he obsesses with Batman. It's not a bad day, i's been years at this point and still hasn't broken batman.
Trauma breaks everyone. 60-230 days of constant combat is how long it takes for a soldier to break mentally (not go crazy, just for mental fatgue tp have overwhelmed them).
Batman is working in a state of constant PTSD. He's already broken and the joker is still stirring the pot. It's a hundred bad days.
It's a cool sounbite/line in the movie, where it is the first encounter between them. but it's stupid when you apply it to any of the comics/tv shows that are long form.
“Don’t come to Central City” This is such a good example of why Wally is my favorite hero. He’s this compassionate and ornery funny guy, but also driven and has the powers of a god.
Wally and Barry are amazing
Your favorite hero has no soul!
@@derekmayers-louther Barry is. i never thought much of WW..
~I think those who were kids in 2000's or younger like WW cause of the animated cartoon.
Is wally always a Ginger?
@@CT-nb5lm People like Wally because he has had such an incredible character arc. He went from neglected super fan, to side kick, to reluctant replacement, to one of the most power heroes. He started as kind of a jerk and became a family man.
Not only that but he introduced concepts like the Speed Force, Savitar, Impulse, Infinite Mass Punch, Zoom, and all sorts of other an awesome concepts.
I love the idea of Flash terrorizing criminals by proving unequivocally that he could kill you faster than you can literally blink, yet using his powers just to clown on and softly fuck with criminals until they get the message.
Wally West is fundamentally different from the rest of the heroes
To the point the villains talk about The Flash like how the citizens do
It’s VERY RARE you have a hero that both the people AND the villains respect
Honestly stories like this are why I love the flash a hero to the people who for a little girls sucker would chase a guy to the end of time.
Agreed!
He has empathy for kids because his mother was murdered as a kid & his dad was blamed.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eqHis mother was murdered as a kid.... Wanna run that by me again?
@@eggroll3055 When Wally was a child, his mother was murdered. Sound better, Hoss ?
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq 👍
Flash is one of those heroes that you HAVE to be attacking SPECIFICALLY if you want to get anything done. half assign it will almost always lead to a debilitating loss if you dont already have power comparable to the average Superman
I mean, call is simple, but you could just drug em.
Or fill his bedroom with CO2
He's not exactly low profile so I don't think finding him would be hard.
@@thebeaverkidd2970 Yeah, the only attacks that human villains can do against flash is the ones he has to walk in himself. You either become something like speedster, or you have to get him to walk on a trap with no triggers. His only weakness is you can plan against him because he can't be everywhere at the same time... unless he does. He's just nerfed most of the time so that we can actually have a decent story.
@@hurricaneb6243Exactly, if it was Barry Allen who don’t give af then he’s merking everyone
That’s why Captain Cold, Mirror Master, and Weather Wizard have ways to mess with the Flash’s footing or try to control his direction
Pretty sure Superman will lose to flash even without cryptonite. Insanely OP god character.
Wally's quirks at full display for Mordru part haha.
Imagine getting chased all over the timestream for a piece of suckerpop.
And he keeps smiling while doing it too! My knees would've gave out right on the third dimension.
I liked when Joker went up against Impulse, who drove him to beg for mercy going, “Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why. Why, why. Why, why, why, why.”
I love bart. he's quirky with his speed reading ability. when he recovered from Deathstroke blowing his knees apart, and the surgery having to deal with his super healing without anasthesia. he came back after reading every single book in the library and just folded Deathstroke like so much dirty laundry. tactics, disassembling the gun in DS's hand. it was a big moment for him. he matured after that.
Frankly I think he lost a lot of his Bart-ness and became Kid Wally 2.0. I really disliked what Graduation Day did. I'd been following Bart almost since he was introduced and I felt that when the converted Young Justice to the teen titans they did a number on both Bart and Tim's personalities trying to make them more like Wally and Dick because the writer didn't want to write them but the Titans they grew up with.
I really wish they had done more Bart and Xs interactions as the issue of Impulse were the 2 hung out was one of the best (also one of the first showing of his speed learning).
@@kagato3 I know what you mean. And I can't disagree.
I personally think the Flash is one of if not the most dangerous character in DC and I don’t understand why more people aren’t concerned about him😂
Cause everyone knows his moral compass is as far slammed into good as Superman. But as we’ve seen with Injustice, it just takes one bad day.
@@gigacanno750 Exactly! Maybe it’s the Batman in me, but I wouldn’t trust any metahuman in a universe where mind control and evil doppelgängers exist
Super Speed, as great as it is, is a Glass Cannon ability. Anyone with the following powers are capable of either wrecking a Speedster, or being equally dangerous:
- Time-based
- Strength-Based
- Mass-Based
- Mind-Based
- Temperature-Based
- Light-Based
- Ghost-Based
- Reality-Based
- Teleportation
- Earth-Based
- some Magic-based
- And perhaps other powers that are special, or I haven't listed off.
Superman, who has the strength to move Planets and Insane Durability, with an Advantage of Range and Close Combat, is definitely a more threatening foe. This is even without mentioning he has speed, flight, ability to time travel, and other abilities that just makes him a Powerhouse.
It isn't to say "Flash is weak" but more-so "There's stronger foes out there"
@@baligong3592the fact you're comparing him to Superman, a walking hex of a character, to prove your point just proves how overpowered Flash(and all the other speedsters)is.
So...yeah. You just wanted to gush about how great Superman is, I'm guessing?
@@baligong3592Well that’s not exactly true because most of the powers you’ve listed the flash has beaten their users or he had those powers themselves
Temperature: Captain and heatwave are regular Tuesdays for him
Mind: Gorilla grodd is not much of a major threat anymore / The flash was able to beat the users of the sage force
Teleportation: skipper is literally not even a threat anymore because the flash moves faster than teleportation
Strength: People actually forget how strong the flash is especially when he uses the infinite mass punch , he was basically able to knockout a white Martian with that, which in comparison are a little stronger than green Martians whom aside from fire are comparable to kryptonians
Time: you can read any flash comic after rebirth and you’ll see him defeat someone who manipulates time
Mass: falls in the same category as the strength users you can change his mass but his ability to vibrate at different frequencies negates that
Reality: flash has beaten villains like shade and was the main reason why the anti monitor was defeated
Earth: I don’t know how logically that will stop someone who can move faster than you can think
Ghost: not even deadman nor the keystone killer could actually possess the flash , once again he goes too fast
The point is everything you’ve listed the flash has faced and seen
The only true weakness the flash has is the writers cause realistically just based off his feats he should be the most dangerous being in the dc universe
I mean hunter zolomon once went toe to toe with the justice league and nearly won, imagine what a competent speedster could actually do.
Not to mention that Batman himself said he would fear the flashes most ( yes even more than superman) if they weren’t being held back by their arrogance
Sure there are other abilities that by raw power are more threatening
But based off of pure practicality and versatility I think the only thing that could actually rival the speed force is magic and that’s only if the magic abilities are fast enough
If I was the Joker, I wouldn’t want to mess with the Flash either. Imagine spending months planning an elaborate clown themed attack on Central City, and the moment you proceed to step one, you blink and you’re in a jail cell.
Love that Barry and Iris occasionally visit Dawn and Don to just be a family.
Flash broke a man who's whole schtick is dimensional travel by beating him at his own game. THAT'S CRAZY 🤩
Let's be real. If the guys explained that they legit didn't know the money was stolen from central city, Flash would probably let them off easy.
Tbf only one of them stole from central city everyone was just collateral lmao
@@Imanifestchaos That's also true.
i'm pretty sure Flash would chase a criminal from other cities if he is just walking by.....it takes him a couple of seconds.
I like that whenever Joke tries to mess with anyone else, the Joker either breaks or the character just kills him
which if joker is aware of the 4th wall like people say he is, then he probably does so deliberately just to reinforce that his little game with batman is a never-ending inescapable dance only the 2 of them can share
@@TimmyMcGowan he's not aware of the 4th wall...
@@sangun123depends on who's writing it, he's either a normal supervillain or he's a fucking god.
Wally and Barry literally outran the Black Racer by phasing through Darkseid. Speaking of Darkseid, both Wally and Barry are protected by the speed force from the Anti-Life equation. I'm surprised people are always downplaying the Flash as if he's just comedic relief like he couldn't literally delete them from reality.
Well, if he does that now, we get a Flashpoint. So he's probably not going to be going back in time to erase a random crook.
It's funny how my two favorite heroes both competing for first place as my favorite hero, is Barry Allen and Clark Kent as Superman.
Which I personally think both are one of the most powerful and dangerous beings in the multiverse including the DC and MCU.
Here I put the top 10 most dangerous or powerful whatever heroes in DC and MCU:
The Flash is a number 3 if my boi Clark in first.
You should check it out it's very interesting
The first episode of The Boys is exactly why everyone should find speedsters terrifying 😂
Except that's not how speedsters in DC work. The speedforce literally prevents them and the outside world from being affected by their immense speed.
In fact, realistically what A-Train did (ignoring that his own body should breal from the speed as well) is a very tonned down version of what would actually happen without the speedforce.
Like, small stones and pennies even remotely near a passing speedster would become bullet like projectiles. Even far away glass would shatter, they'd be absurdly loud and blah blah blah.
... but evidently Flash works differently. So _that_ is the last part to be concerned about.
@@goji253 Pretty sure they meant that if a speedster isn't paying 1000% attention while running, people turn into red mist.
@@kyleellis1825 I got that. I'm saying that's not how speedsters in DC work. The speedforce literally prevents such things from happening. So long as a speedster doesn't directly run into you or something like that, you are absolutely fine.
And considering Speedster's think and perceive at a ridiculous speed it's downright impossible for them to do it by accident. From their perspective, they have already seen you before the first neurons in your brain would have even fired.
@@goji253 Well considering the speedforce wasn't always around, that's not actually true.
Jay Garrick had none of those protections while he was the golden age flash. He was still going fast enough to pulp someone if he ran into them.
If a flash gets distracted (like in a fight with Zoom), people would be popping like bubblewrap. Heck, just Flash getting hit by someone when he's going fast would turn his body into a deadly weapon as he shot through the air.
@@kyleellis1825 Except that's literally been retconned since even before the New 52.
And even afterwards from New 52 till post rebirth he clearly is connected to the speedforce.
The matter of fact remains that DC speeedsters do not adhere to our laws of physics. A speedster running past you will not be a death sentence. And there is literally no way for them to be "distracted" enough to just accidentally hit someone. They think at a lightning fast rate after all. Even if they forgot you for a second, they'd remember you before they even remotely hit you.
If that weren't the case, Jay, Barry, Wally and so forth would likely just run into walls all the time.
That Mordru Chase is just Mind Blowingly insane!
If flash was more willing to break legs with a supersonic kicks before his enemies could even blink he’d have the respect he’s due. Seriously, Flash is EASILY a superman level threat. This man needs to be feared
Flash is not a Superman level threat, and don't disrespect him that way. He's not that low on the threat scale
@@TheKyrix82 he can end & reset timelines tho
@@TheKyrix82 Wally West is counted on of most dangerous being if he decides to become a villain.
@@mochiroll3648 Hes saying hes much stronger. read the last sentence
@@mochiroll3648 Yes...read what I said again
I love that they bring Impulse into it, with the artist from the old Young Justice series. Also show how smart he can be. He’s constantly underestimated, and I loved his development during Geoff Johns Teen Titans series.
I love how flash showed up in the first story, just that moment of "oh... hi flash... uhhhh... so this is going to be awkward but we didn't know he stole that from your city, we just wanted to play some poker... "
"Yall really just sold me out like that?"
"Dude it's the flash. I'm not fighting him."
Love to hear more flash stuff. His charisma was always his best attribute.
He may be a bit of a goof, but he's basically a good guy. He's DC's Peter Parker.
Most criminals arent scared of flash because he has this bad habit of running up to a villian and stopping and then talking to them ,allowing the villain to use their powers on him. Now if flash ran up to villians at near light speed , and without stopping immediately captured them and took them to jail ,all in less than 1/100 of a second ,then villians would be petrified of him
The fast man alive could pull a quick one on Joker, it’s all about timing.
An interaction that I have always wanted to see between these two.
A hero team vs villain team fighting in what's basically a free-for-all. While Flash is running around the area finding someone to pick off, Joker would finish eating a banana, wait for the right time to drop the peel, and makes him slip out of the city altogether.
It just...sounds perfect.
Joker laughs even harder when Green Lantern trips on the same banana peel, only to suffer friendly fire because Gorilla Grodd didn't find the banana amusing
Except that Flash would have plenty of 'seconds' in his time to note the banana peel falling.
Another reason i love the 'Justice ' storyline from AlexRoss.
And the fight between the two Legion of Doom rosters was pretty cool
in justic eleague unlimited (iirc)
Anyone wish the classic wally west would replace Barry as the main flash in the new James Gunn cinematic universe?
Yes hes more comical really working with james gunn style
Not really
Yes
If Joker messed with Flash… Flash would unalive him faster than Batman or Superman could tell him not to.
Flash doesnt unalive any1. Batman would become a killer before flash.
Then Joker wins and he would celebrate
@MD lol right he "wins". Flash doesn't have that same moral code. He'll kill someone if he has to or put them in a state where they wish they were dead
@@calebrichardson5259 no Flash wouldn't he has the same morals as Superman he's a boy scout why do you think he doesn't like Reverse Flash or Gorilla Grodd
He would not unalive em,but he would do something fucked up where the Joker would wish he was unlived.
I also loved the Young Justice issue where Superboy, Impulse, and Robin got trapped in nightmares. Eventually they managed to switch, and when they found Impulse he was driving the Joker insane.
I need to read this now
@@Mary_Studios It’s not the time I was thinking of, but Impulse #50 does have him meeting the Joker in real life for the first time and slowly annoying the hell out of him as he plays along with the Joker’s demands.
Love that Hunter basically doubles down on his villainy and not redeem himself. I really hope that Zoom appears frequently in the relaunch.
Gosh, i really love Walley as flash. I grew up with him as The Flash.
A character so overpowered they intentionally always write him to downscale him. I think there is a story somewhere where the flash solves all the world's problems before they ever occur.
Is that the same one where there is a city utopia with no crime because a "Red blur" solves every single problem for them.
imagine discreetly gathering stuff for a robbery and the flash stops your ass at checkout and goes “woah buddy, i hope that’s not for a robbery you gonna commit in 30 minutes right?”
1:50 the scariest one on here, even scarier than hopping deminsions. This dude was instantly moved to the middle of and African desert and he didn't even feel it!
90's Wally was the best
Joker knows flash is secretly working with the irs
Joker doesn't mess with Flash because Flash already has Trickster in his rogues gallerie. It would be redundant. Unless Joker and Trickster teamed up. But, I don't see that working out.
They team-up in a JL Action short to kidnap Mark Hamill 😂
You know what would make for an interesting story? If Joker came to Central City, injured Flash, and then Trickster gets revenge; not only beating the Joker into submission, but dropping him off in front of Arkham/Batman.
Hmm. Maybe I should take up writing comics.
I feel like that senario would go down one of three ways:
1. They start off working together, but one of them eventually double-crosses the other*
2. Joker tries to kill James for "copying him" , and they duke it out with various prank weapons until Batman and Flash have to intervene
3. Trickster doesn't agree with Joker's lack of morality or conscience, and actually tries to take Joker down so no one else gets killed
*Honestly, James seems most likely to double-cross Joker, since he's a well known con artist. But on the other hand, Joker is a master of manipulation, so it could really go either way.
@@dominikdickey4906 Trickster and joker would be like when the joke villain teams up with the main villain and realises how fucked up their methods are.
@@dominikdickey4906 I'd go the third route. Trickster doesn't seem inherently evil; just a guy that takes his tricks to a larger scale than they need to be.
Flash has his joker as the Trickster and Superman has The Prankster
This proves the reverse flash is the most brave man to ever exist dude fights the flash every chance he gets I mean he doesn’t succeed in defeating flash in most instances but still gotta give him props for having the bravery to fight the man who will chase you to the ends of time for a simple lollipop
Thats like saying Superman is brave for fighting someone who can lift a boulder, Reverse Flash would probably chase flash to the ends of time just to steal that lollipop so that flash would feel sorta disappointed that he couldnt give it back to her.
@@lvlHive bro superman opponents is child's play, going against the flash he will chase you down to the end of time
@@farmertiga4983 Im aware, im also aware that Reverse Flash is 1000 more times more petty than the Flash thus the comparison.
The Revere Flash is the best example of what will happen if they make flash snap
To be fair, speedsters are actually really scary when you stop and think about it. Like they could could literally disintegrate you in under a second or phase through your organs or hell even travel through time and stop you from ever existing.
For Flash’s 800 issue, here is what I got to say.
The Jeremy Adams part shows the villains (including Goldface, who was killed by the son of Tomar Re in a Flash 2018 Annual and was supposed to be reformed as shown in the Geoff Johns run) taking about Irey West Thunderheart and Jai West Surge (wearing his Surge suit, which looks cool by the way) battling villains, Wally West Flash chasing Mordru to give back a girl’s lollipop, and Wally about to talk to the villains with a smug look. I like it because it’s brilliant, fun, and a family comic. May Jeremy Adams have a good run and hope that we see him in other DC projects (such as the Jay and Judy Garrick series) soon.
For the Mark Waid part, I like that Bart Allen Impulse went to the Keystone City Public Library to read some books (forshadowing what he can do as shown in Geoff Johns’ Teen Titans run) and to make sure that he could fix the mirror gun to save Max Mercury and Wally West Flash. Also, since this event is set between issues 6 and 7 of the Impulse series (that I’ve read all of it by the way and it is nice), this means that it’s set in 1995.
For the Joshua Williamson part, I like that we see Barry Allen (in his formal Silver Age civilian suit from the 1950s and 1960s) and Iris West using the Cosmic Treadmill to travel to the 30th Century to spend time with their kids the Tornado Twins (who I believe were from after Barry and Iris stayed in the 30th century after the Trial of the Flash but before Barry’s sacrifice in the first Crisis in 1985, them being born, them being affiliated with the Original Legion of Super-Heroes, and before the Tornado Twins have Bart Allen and Jenni Ognats). It’s really sweet that Barry and Iris get to see their 30th century children to see how they’re doing and to have family fun.
For the Geoff Johns part, instead of Hunter Zolomon Zoom escaping from the Forever Force (which last appeared in the Joshua Williamson run, that I find it interesting and that I understand that most readers and writers don’t want to touch that again) to apologize to Wally West and Linda Park for causing tragedies that would make Wally a better hero and apologizing to Ashley Zolomon for his tragedies, we see him escape from the Speed Force (after he lost his Forever Force powers) and attempt to cause more tragedies in Wally’s life to make him a better hero. I would prefer Hunter Zolomon learning the error of his ways by making amends with the West Family and Ashley Zolomon. That way we get to see him redeem himself and try to become a hero and a better person.
For the Si Spurrer part, I like that we get to see the return of Evan McCoullogh Mirror Master and for the sci-fi horror stuff happen to Wally West. Let’s hope that the Si Spurrier run be interesting in September.
I don't think he lost his forever force powers, there will always be a force or something that zoom possess in someway he have to be explained on how he does all of these things.
It stillsurprises me that Joker even manages to get Superman in Injustice, since Superman isn't too far off from being as fast as Flash.
He's actually very far off. Flash told him all those close charity races were just that; charity.
Then proceeded to outrun supes
Because it’s a different world main line superman has beaten the joker pretty absolutely. It’s why he doesn’t go to metropolis much, because Supes isn’t as fun
He stole fear toxin from Scarecrow. The Joker couldn't win, in all his chemical genius, without help.
Thats a completely different universe, that superman is weaker and his moral compass isn’t as strong as mainline superman, in the mainline comics the joker doesn’t mess with superman, and superman has a very good moral compass but he absolutely will kill if he needs to unlike Batman.
@@Azur_Anime No, mainline superman does not kill. You're thinking of the terrible movies and some comics that everyone ignores.
Wonder what we will get for the 1000th issue of the flash in about 3-4 years. Superman and Batman should be this close or further ahead in the comics wonder what their big milestone issues will be like.
Keep up with the great videos bro, always watching 🫡
Thank you Comicstorian, youre narrations bring really bring the pages to life. Thank you for introducing me to so many cool stories :)
Of course Joker version will shake in his boots in front of Flash. Flash is the only one who can actually find out Joker's real identity or stop his accident before he becomes the Joker
Flash is OP AF. It's a testament to the writers that the character still works after all these years. Always gotta figure out how they're gonna slow him down.
The idea of The Joker just completely giving up and never returning. After seeing his gas that he probably spent literal weeks accumulating and setting up. Just get carried and blown all the way back to Gotham alongside himself in Looney Tunes fashion no less. All within the span of literal seconds. Is even more insane and hilarious than he is 😂
Lmfao it’s just not worth the effort, atleast with batman you get a flashy fight, with the flash it’s literally over in a second
It would’ve been even funnier if the pieza guy actually was at the door, and Wally had actually already took the money back, he was just *so fast* that literally no one noticed
or wally showed up with the pizza.
It’s not just the things that the Flash has done that should keep criminals out of his city, but the things that he could possibly do if pushed to the breaking point. 😊
I love this flash story it’s really awesome
5:22 "a little research"
Love your vids. I can stop reading comics and know that I can pick them back up whenever without feeling overwhelmed by what I missed. Instead I'm just whelmed lol
I mean, if it was just Superspeed, the fear would be reasonable for several heroes. But with Superman and Flash both there is also the fact that they wont stop until the villain has been stopped, no matter the crime. And they got to know their cities citizens, that is why they are loved in their home.
Been a while since I watched comicstorian aging hurts 😢
DUUUDE leaving condiment king in the desert and him taking a year to get back is hilarious 😂. Sometimes I feel like Wally is a comedian in an alternate universe, somewhere
Simplest reason, anyone who can pull off THOSE boots, you don't F with.
Just wanted to say thank you for getting me though my worse days 😭 and help me with my focus in school
I love that this was all about Wally. It's been too long since we've seen stuff like this.
I mean damn, everyone should be scared of him. Even Super Man but sadly the writers always nerfing him 😭
kinda wish there was more of Flash vs Joker, I assumed it would be Flash playing pranks and stopping Joker till he got annoyed enough to stay in Arkham or something
This was a cool format. I’d watch more videos like this.
Flash chasing Mordru across dimensions for a girl's sucker: "It's not about the candy, it's about sending a message."
I can tell you why Joker is scared of The Flash
Flash has connections with the IRS (see Flash 52 from 1991)
The Comic Book Story is finally here.
2:48 Flash pulled the Fingore finger wave meme before it even existed
I love that Flash design, very sleek and comicesque
First 4 minutes and I now have more reasons as to why he/ll always be my favorite character in the DC universe
I always enjoy other hero/villain crossovers. Usually ends with the villain vowing to never do that again.
One of my favorite stories is Impulse #50 where he flat out annoys the Joker long enough for Batman to put down his henchmen and rescue the hostages he’s taken, and Impulse originally comes to Gotham just to prank Tim on April Fool’s before stumbling into the situation.
mini stories like these are really just "What if writers didn't have to nerf flash every time a story about him was made".
Like for real, every comic ever except for those against other speedsters could have been ended in nanoseconds by he flash
It’s why I love Wally west flash
Even Batman has acknowledged that he could learn a thing or two about detective work from the Flash
That first story reminded me of "Almost Got 'im", the classic BTAS episode, almost feels like an homage.
More villains should fear the flash but he is always nerfed to make the story longer. I think I would deeply fear someone who could pick me up and dump me in an alternate timeline where no humans exist within half a second.
Zoom needs his own costume, he is very different from Reverse Flash
He is but he isn't. He is the reverse flash to wallys flash. Like Thawne is to barry
CW has you covered lol
@@Shadowninja01the biggest difference is zoom isn't a speedster
Would love for him to become an anti hero who tries to do good in his way but wally disapproves his method and there's no stopping him.
Who the Joker doesn’t mess with:
- The Flash
- The IRS
I love stories like this just fun little comic books like this that don’t reckon anything else and just a bit of fun
I was hoping with that first story that Wally would’ve brought a pizza with him, would’ve been the icing on the cake
"But I don't have any cash!"
"We can work something out, wink wink""
Me patiently waiting for great flash writers to come back and show that flash has the potential to be the strongest JL member if he just used his power properly (yes including Superman)
he stand there menacingly