How To Get the Film Look with the Lumix G7 and G85
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Want to make the images from your Lumix G7 or G85 look as cinematic as possible? Learn how to achieve the "film look" in this video.
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Thanks to the amazing and incredibly attractive Jesse for unknowingly posing for the thumbnail on my now most popular video.
@@miguelsandoval3697 Miguel, do you not have access to your meds in quarantine?
that extremely white background is really bothering me, sorry. :/
It's because he used cinelike D it's more of a flat picture profile so you will be required to correct that in post production
muigah philip my cinelike-d doesn’t look washed out like his🎥
Dude, I'm not sure about the t-shirt, but this is one of the very best videos about filmmaking I have ever watched. 1. You have me convinced that you know your stuff. 2. You are economical with words (80 percent of RUclipsrs would produce much better videos if they talked about 80 percent less) 3. You make things easy to understand 4. You constantly integrate images and don't make us just look at a talkinghead. Excellent and very helpful.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it so much.
Using as a refresher and was thinking about the exact same thing!
great content. but i think your white background is too bright and kinda distracting. maybe make it little bit darker or use dark background is better with brighter clothes.
Thanks for the suggestion! I've been experimenting with different background ideas, so I'll keep your suggestion in mind.
get rid of the white background~~!! its brighter then my future
Don't worry, I've changed it in my most recent video. ;-)
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DO NOT USE HIGHLIGHT/ SHADOW OPTION!!! adds so much noise to the shadows keep it at a normal curve please. I was about to return this camera because of how grainy the images were because i followed this advice and forgot about the option till recently.
oh my god really?
I have used it for nearly all of my footage. But I have not used the curve as extreme as he shows. I did +3, -3
I think so too! I went to test
Great video
Helping lesson of optimicing the g7! Thanks!
Glad to help!
bright background! and creepy music woohoo. That's all I focus on, ha
At 2:04 you said to have shutter speed at half the frame rate. I was under the understanding that you should follow the 180 degrees rule and double the shutter speed of the frame rate to make the video smoother. Is there an advantage to going half the fps?
I meant the same thing as the 180 rule, just said it in a different way. If you're recording at 24fps, having a shutter of 50 (1/50th of a second) will mean the shutter is open for half of the frame.
Ah, ok thank you
Thanks much for this. Very helpful. Just ordered the 25mm f1.7 from your link. I like the kit lens, but have been struggling with the f stop. Perfect recommendation at the perfect time.
Glad to help!
Colors have improved on the G85/GX85 since the G7. WB is a lot warmer compared to G7 WB. Do you know if they improved Cinelike-D color rendition of skin tones ? Thanks for your video
The main cause of inaccurate colors with low contrast profiles is too much compression. The G85 has the same level of compression as the G7 while recording 4k video, so even if the Cinelike-D profile was improved in the new camera, it's likely there are still problems.
Thanks for the info. I'll probably buy the G80 since the GH5 is way too expensive for me and I don't need all the features and perks it proposes to the video geeks crowd. I think the G camera line up is a great balance.
I'd argue that Cinelike-D's color is just not right in general. It needs some tweaking, and is a bit too orange and "plastic". Cinelike-D's profile is pretty good, just contrast-y.
Good stuff man, keep rocking your own style.
THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION I WILL FOLLOW THE ADVICE GREETINGS FROM PERU I HOPE MY VIDEOS GO OUT EVERYTHING WELL
thanks so much Milhouse ...i will fallow u
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I'm fukin dead... Mill house tho...
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Good job explaining! Thanks
Great video!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic info. But bro, you gotta drop that epic music. Extremely distracting and takes away from an otherwise great video. :)
Fantastic video and fantastic music choice! Do you keep the "natural" picture profile as it is or do you change the settings? Sorry if the answer is in the video and I missed it
Thanks! I've always kept the Natural profile at its default settings.
Good one TGF
Why the annoying music in the background? i still cant believe you actually used it on this nice video :(
Incredible amount of information!
Also, thank you for submitting feature requests on behalf of the community it's actions like these that help propel all of us creators forward. Thanks man!
Brother sorry I don't know English. I speaking tamil. best short film making camera lumix g85 or g7 please reply brother.
You may be an expert in g85 but your mic steels the show. Which is the mic you're using. It's perfect for dialogue scenes and interviews. :)
do you not recommend changing the saturation or sharpness in the camera? thanks for the videos man. I'm always trying to learn more.
In my experience with the camera, I've seen no reason to change any of the picture profile settings.
thanks! Just bought it to discover filming with 4k, shallow depth of field, manual focus, etc... and got myself totally lost!
Would've appreciated it if you showed us the end result.
If you want to see some examples of my result, I've posted some stills here: facebook.com/tallguyfilms/posts/743411362504979. I didn't include any in this video because my examples are from a separate and yet unannounced project.
i'm confused about the Nd filters. i just bought my g7 yesterday and this is relatively new to me. What size ND filter holder would i need for the kit lens? i was going to purchase this - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019RT2GRY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JI8FYVP5BRX8 . would that work?
The kit lens has a filter thread of 46mm. The smallest threaded adapter in the kit you link is 49mm, so you would need a step-up ring to make it fit on the lens.
Great info I had to subscribe
Thanks!
Thanks a lot Sherminator :D
I've spent way too much time playing with the cinelike D profile, with the leeming Lut in resolve 12.5 and I've come to the conclusion that Standard and Natural are the only profiles that will not destroy skin tones. Frankly, the amount of color grading the G7 can take, with that puny codec, is not that great and it's imperative to be as close as you want to be in cam. The argument of Cinelike D increasing the dynamic range by 1/2 is ridiculous. If you shoot a film your lighting and contrast should be controlled, since it's fiction and you decide what is going to be seen, so why bother with a preset such as Cinelike D that start destroying the thin color in cam. Good call from you to tell your audience to use Natural. I find very little difference between natural and Standard. I also NEVER use AWB for video. I always manually balance, and sometime use the K scale.
Yeah I'd either use Cine D with the COntrast NOT turned all the way down - or one of the others with the Shadow curves giving as much dynamic range as you can.
have you used the 8mm slr lens for this camera?
I didn't want to miss one second of your great awesome video, thank you for sharing your knowledge. This is what I've been looking for. ｡◕ v ◕｡
nice video, you think same setting are good for g95?
This was very informative, thank you 🙏
Great video, very detailed and in depth! Thanks :-) If you had to get an external mic for the G85, which one would you choose? (I am looking for something that is compact / great value for its money)
I use the Rode VideoMicro, it's a great little microphone and I have a review of it on this channel as well. The audio quality isn't the greatest, but it certainly wins in price and compactness departments.
Thanks for the reply! I agree with you in regards to the audio but one big advantage that I see with the mic is, its very portable when you are travelling! The main thing I don't like about it is really the big fluff ball it comes with! I wish it could have been more simple & cleaner it terms of aesthetics! :-P
All very good information. While I do use vnd's, they always have vignetting issues. A good set of nd's will cost a few hundred dollars, so vnd's, in my opinion, are cheaper to correct in post or leave it as it can work artistically in some shots.
VND filters are certainly a situational tool, but I've found they're generally useful to have on hand, especially when shooting in daylight.
Never leave home without it! :D
Thanks. BTW You can't go wrong with Holst. :)
I followed your advice but it doesn't look that cinematic. Do I have to wait until it is on a bigger editing screen for it to look more 4K? Or am I being dumb? I'm new to this!
I also have a 12-60mm lens.
Do you think the g85 and lumafusion with the iPad Pro 512gb would be sufficient
Can you do a review on the GH5? Great video btw.
Thanks! I'd love to check out the GH5, but I haven't been able to get my hands on the camera yet.
Loved the video, was very helpful. But don’t mean to be mean, but the music is so distracting, felt like I was in Star Wars and couldn’t concentrate on what you were saying
Is there any way to hack it and have an adjustment for the master pedestal? On my gh4 and gh5, I have them cranked to +15. I can always just turn down the contrast in post, but it's a little more work
Question. People are saying the 25 mm has a hard time focusing when shooting video. Any thoughts?
It's a bit slower, but not too bad in my experience.
Would you recomand the g 25mm lense over the 12-60mm kit lense? Could you give your take on premier cs6 for cinematic looks? Thank you so much!!!
The 25mm has much better image quality than any kit lens, but it does restrict you to only one focal length. What I recommend for editing with Premiere should work in CS6 for the most part, with the exception that you won't have Lumetri Color.
Hi guys I'm new to the camera world, from my research I narrow my choices down to
Pentax K-70 vs Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85
I want great picture and video quality, without needing too much of upgrade in the future.
my budget is under 1k with lenses.
my question is which of those two best fit my need?
Thanks
What is your height?
Ok, nvm. You mentioned using Step Up Rings (It wasn't on the list in the description.) I already have the Lumix 25mm lens. Would the Goya 46mm Step Up ring be the right size?
Hi Ken, I have a Lumix FZ300 and was thinking of getting a G85 to get some better results - specially shooting video. Although the difference in IQ and dynamic range etc may not be all that great, I thought I should cut my teeth on the G85 before I chose something else like the G9. What do you think of my choice?
How did it work out? Value is everything, so can't comment on your wisdom without a price, but you can't really go wrong either way -- unless you have a specific NEED for a G9, which you don't.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 I got both, a G85 and a G9 (with the Leica 12-60). I don't like the buttons on the G85 and land up using it as a second camera when I shoot rocket launches. I use the Fz300 for video and control both the other cameras remotely with the Panasonic app when shooting long exposures of the launches.
When you said set your shutter speed at half your frame rate I assume you meant double?...
Technically it's half. If your framerate is 30fps you're taking a frame every 1/30 of a second. A shutter speed of 1/60 means the shutter is open half the time each frame is shot.
@@AlteraSound ohhhh. Cool thanks for clarifying. Great video!
Hi there. What lense under $1000 for do you recommend for gh5 specially for short films ? Thank you.
Hi man, i want a variable ND Filter for my 14-42mm kitlens, but do i need 46mm for my step-up adapter? (because it's until 42mm)
thanks for the video, can you help with a problem.. I'm settings tab but can't change the photo style to natural because its greyed out, any reason why the photo style is greyed out??
I can't figure out how to record on a 4:3 aspect ratio on the G7 Everytime I hit the record button it goes to 16:9 . Any help would be appreciated
The G7 will only record video in a 16:9 aspect ratio. If you want a different aspect ratio, you'll have to edit the video after the fact.
@@AlteraSound thanks
Also, would be very useful if you could put some of the suggested products on the screen? I couldn't catch the name of the editing software just by your words. Or add links at bottom of video? Otherwise ...very well done and thanks for your insight
Hmm,I guess if Gh4 is basically a big brother of G7 you can achieve the same effect with it?
I learned a lot from this video! Thanks for making it! Subbed.
Question. I love doing video and photography, should I get the 25mm or the 42.5mm?
It depends on what you do. I've found the 25mm is very versatile; it's wide enough for wide shots but long enough to get super nice closeups. The 42.5mm is a borderline telephoto lens, which makes it great for shooting closeups and portraits, but it'll be more difficult to use than the 25mm in tight spaces or if you want a wide shot.
Thanks for the reply! I'm looking to take pictures of people to maybe start a business, so I think I'll get the 42.5 first, but I definitely have to have the 25 because I love wide shots! Thanks again!
i have a G7 and before i click the record button everything looks smooth but as soon as i hit record the footage starts looking laggy , is that normal
Great video. It was very dense, which makes it excellent for referencing _once I know what I'm doing with this badass camera I just bought_. My only suggestion (which would be great content for your channel), would be to make a series of 4 or 5-minute videos that cover each section you went over here, in a follow-by-numbers format. I guarantee you it will do wonders for your channel. You've already got all the info, now just make it bite-sized for us nubs.
Do you keep those settings regardless of environment (indoor/outdoor, etc)? Obviously you change exposure settings but I mean all of the other settings that you should in the beginning.
I might use one of the Cinelike profiles in a few very specific circumstances, but outside that I always keep my settings the same.
Great information video.
Thanks.
Hello! Your video guide is really helpfull. Thank you so much. I'm about to buy the G85, but I have i big doubt? Do you think is better the old GH4 for more video options and Mbps? That's my big doubt? Thanks in advance.
Can you better explain how to set exposure using the Grey Card? I think it's the same as when I had a film camera in 70's, but a bit different now in digital world?
Using the G7 and I changed the settings to match what you have, but I feel like I still have some noise in my shots did I miss something? Also just got the 25mm.
my exposure mode is greyed out on my camera...anyone know why this is and what can be done for me to change it to 'M' ?
Why is exposure mode not available on my g7? the option is like faded out and I can't access it
Whats your settings in the Natural profile regarding Contrast, Sharpness, Noice Reduction and Saturation? Would you recommend the same settings for a guy who doesn't plan to to any color grading in post? I just want to get the best result possible straight out of the camera.
If you don't plan on grading I'd stick with the Natural profile. It still produces really great colors without tweaking. The only other thing I'd change is to set the "Highlight Shadows" setting to the default.
Ok cool. And what about the settings within the Natural profile? Thanks!
I've always left them set at the default "0" for everything.
Best cinematic lenses under 500 for MFT are the sigma 30mm 1.4 contemporary and real cine lenses from slr magic (T0.95) and rokinon (T1.5)
Unless I misheard something, the variable ND filter will fit the Lumix 25mm with no problem at all?
Whether a filter will fit a lens depends on the thread size. If you purchase the filter linked in the video description, which has a thread size of 52mm, you will need a step-up ring (which is also linked), as the 25mm has a 46mm thread size.
Thank you! I
good lecture. ?- how does the in-camera NDF work and does it replace an NDF lens filter?
thanks in advance.-paul.
CINELIKE D? what profile sharp contrast adjustment? I subscribed
I can't seem to manually adjust exposure compensation like you do at 2:08, and it's constantly automatically adjusting. And I can't seem to find the setting that affects this, any ideas?
It depends on what you have your metering setting set to. If you have it set to spot metering like I do, the meter will show an exposure value based on a fix point. If the brightness of that fixed point is changing (because of camera movement, movement in the scene, or changing lighting), then the meter will adjust. The default metering setting will average the brightness of the entire image, so any changes in the scene will change the meter.
That's why a grey card is useful; you can use it as a fixed reference. If you don't have a grey card then I would ignore the meter and set the exposure using your histogram.
Ah I see. Rewatching it again, I think it was my mistake. You were changing aperture/shutter speed and it looked like you were manually changing exposure comp. Thanks for the info!
I'm rockin' the G7 as well. You, sir, have yourself a new subscriber!
The only reason I would want to upgrade to a G85 or a GH5 is image stabilization and improved tracking. You can see in some of my videos where focus wanders because I have it in tracking mode. Now, I do it manually or use the a different autofocus mode.
Thanks for the sub!
The G85 and GH5 definitely look really good. The handheld footage I've seen from the GH5 is borderline magical, although the autofocus isn't quite on par with Sony yet from what I've heard.
Could u to a color grating tutorial but using hitfilm
I'll try it out sometime! I've used Hitfilm before, it's great software. In the meantime, you could check out my color correction tutorial, which you may find useful.
rokinon lens are the best for mft filming imo and most come under the 500$ mark
Thanks so much for this succinct information packed video. I like it because it covers most or all of the important settings when using this video camera. You're Great!
Glad to help!
hey bro do you mess with contrast saturation shapness in profiles or you keep it all in the middle?
I keep all of those settings at the default.
so they are all in the middle with full contrast and saturation? for grading really? you dont put them all to left? so in post do you only play with with shadow and highlights?
great video!!
So now, I am thoroughly confused. How do I go back to original settings?
You can do a factory reset in the settings.
@@onesevencollective1123 thank you. I'm getting it figured out now lol. Appreciate the holler back.
@@JW_Mayfield Glad I could help! If you need help with where to find it in settings, just let me know.
what's do you set the sharpness,noise reduction, contrast and saturation to?
I like digital settings for emulation of other equipment. Like how blender does with the sensor size.
Thank you for making this! Liked and subscribed.
The new color tools in FCPX will do a lot of the post work now.
You don't show what buttons to press to get to anything
Good Day! I have a question. Why when I import the files to Premiere it
says that the frame rate is 23.976 jst like it was with dslrs, I thought
it shot 24. Anyone else has this Problem?
The actual framerate of the G7 is 23.976, it's just rounded up in the software.
When you say a lower aperture will give you better exposure and lower ISO, you're right, but keep in mind that a lot of lenses, certainly those older Nikkor and Canon FD lenses, are at their best between f4 and f8
It is true that lenses tend to be softer when wide open, but in most lenses that difference isn't very visible, even in 4k video.
Great information and presentation.
Glad you enjoyed it!
natural profile for Film Look?!? are you sure? Cinelike D is no good? just because orange color shift? or what do you mean by "FILM LOOK" ?!?
Thank you SO much! I used the your information to setup my Lumix FZ300!
If you go to Lowes (in the US) you can pick up a grey card in the paints section for free. It is called "software" grey, code sw7074. I contrasted on my actual 18% grey card and it disappears into it, the colors are just visibly the same. The advice on step-up rings for filters is dead on, you save people a ton of money with that advice alone. Great vid. I really appreciate it.
Good idea with the grey card!
You say you want shutter speed at half your frame rate but aren't you shooting at 4k 24p? 50 would be double
Cheddar Bob Half of 1/24 is 1/50
Great info, Thanks
Glad to help!
How much was film concert for
Great video broseph, thanks for the tips!
Glad to help!
What do you think about the use of luts?
i just try in my g85
thanks a lot
Thank you for the test footage!! I've been looking for footage to practice color grading!
Which video format is better for color grading? AVCHD or MP4?
MP4 is easier to work with, as well as higher quality if you record in 4k.
standard settings for Natural?
Thank you for this!
You're welcome!
This tutorial was very explicit, thanks a lot