Panasonic G85 / G7 Custom Flat Picture Profile Inspired by Sony Cine4

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @TheHybridShooter
    @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад +5

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  • @germanevision
    @germanevision 5 лет назад +12

    After two days of watching videos and researching on seven camera manufacturers, your video has made me choose G85. thank you so much

  • @A1Bokeh
    @A1Bokeh 5 лет назад +18

    when i turned down the settings on my g7 the footage comes out pretty amazing

    • @zillaman0916
      @zillaman0916 5 лет назад

      Same. I couldn't believe how great the footage looks. It's comparable to the gh5.

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh 5 лет назад +1

      @@zillaman0916 ya man pretty crazy I have a g9 now and gx85 and im still tweaking with them and granted some shots do come out amazing but the g7 was just easier to do it !

    • @Juanescacha
      @Juanescacha 5 лет назад +1

      awesome, what settings are you tweaking, i just received my G85 and learning the manual , video tips/tricks profiles etc and wanna get the maximum quality footage! thanks

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh 5 лет назад +3

      Juanescacha hey!! I’ve never used the g85 but I know it’s close to the gx85. I personally used the natural or standard with the contrast and saturation turned to -5
      SOMETIMES I’ll use it on -3
      And I’m still somewhat torn on turning down the sharpness I sometimes feel I let the lens take care of that but at most I put that at -3
      I play with setting sometimes before I shoot too

    • @Juanescacha
      @Juanescacha 5 лет назад

      @@A1Bokeh Oh Thanks, i will try and play with those settings, that settings are alike to get best color grading results?

  • @truthmefree
    @truthmefree 6 лет назад +13

    Not sure if you ever do live videos... but a video on "settings for G85 for live video streaming" would be awesome coming from you. You obviously really understand this medium. Thanks again!

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад +1

      I unfortunately know nothing about live streaming. Maybe I will look into it in the future.

    • @kn00tcn
      @kn00tcn 6 лет назад

      dont reduce the contrast & saturation? i assume live would mean dont wash out the colors unless there is a way to apply a lut or grade in realtime (might be possible, i just havent checked)
      then i guess you'd need to decide on the most stable focus, depending on if the subject moves

    • @HeXBLiTz
      @HeXBLiTz 4 года назад

      I know this is an Old comment. BUT you could set this same profile on the camera and apply a LUT Preset (cube and PNG) inside OBS Studio Live stream software

  • @camil721
    @camil721 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you for all your useful and well done videos ! Very helpful for me and for many others! We like your calm and precise tone, and, beleive me, your landscape and home area. Also, your living room is so classy and inspires to relaxation...

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      You're welcome, I'm glad you like my videos a find them to be useful.

  • @aryahmdm
    @aryahmdm 7 лет назад +4

    Thank you for this, I will try this out on my G7 :)

  • @apetterproductions
    @apetterproductions 7 лет назад +4

    Thanks for this! I've been using a similar profile on my GX80, except I had the noise reduction at -5 and I didn't adjust the shadows/highligst curve in-camera. Will try your profile for my next video!

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад +4

      You're welcome, shadows/highlights are worth adjusting those affect captured dynamic range, it can be seen in Lumetri scopes in Premiere.

  • @skepsys
    @skepsys Год назад +1

    5 years later, do u still think it extends dynamic range? im asking mainly because ghalex (the guy with emotive colors) doesnt recommend this. i asked him a while back and he recommends keeping contrast at 0. of course, he provides in his method a lut that converts the "natural" (also "cinelike d", i think) to vlog, but he recommends keeping contrast at 0. he did the gh5 to alexa conversion in a very precise way/methodology. and i seem to recall he also recommends against fiddling with highlight/shadow, if im not mistaken. opinions?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  Год назад +1

      I haven't used this camera for about 4 years, so I can't answer that, sorry.

    • @skepsys
      @skepsys Год назад

      ​@@TheHybridShooter thanx

  • @NolanGunn
    @NolanGunn 5 лет назад

    Interesting! Especially using the curves in-camera. I'll have to try this out. Thanks!

  • @SerrilMedia
    @SerrilMedia 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this video, I acn see a little more green color in the flat color profile for the g85/g7 - would you recommend to get some of that green out so it can match better with he Sony color profile, I know it will never be exact but maybe less luma or green color space can help achieve a more cine flat look? But I have noticed that my G7 picks up a lot more green color/tone especially with flourcent lights or office lights since those cast a green light.

  • @dronetheworld4k67
    @dronetheworld4k67 4 года назад

    can you please create a video how to shoot, edit and color grade indoor for youtube studio ?...

  • @villesyrjakoski2068
    @villesyrjakoski2068 6 лет назад +2

    Amazing. I need to go and change my settings

  • @weirdwildwackyz
    @weirdwildwackyz 4 года назад

    Thanks Bro! Looks great on my G7

  • @iamjiroe
    @iamjiroe 6 лет назад +6

    lowering the contrast and changing the highlights and shadows settings does not increase the dynamic range at all. It is the same as doing it in Davinci in Post. I did many tests on this and the result was that the only thing this does is bring in Noise.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад +1

      How did you test it, have you looked at the waveform? The in increase of dynamic range is clearly visible there.

    • @iamjiroe
      @iamjiroe 6 лет назад +4

      Not trying to fight but more like talking about it, but this is how I see it. if I clip something and then bring down the highlights in Resolve, the scopes will show that it's not clipping even though the information is not there anymore. So the waveform might show that it's fine, but in reality, all your doing is lower an already clipped highlight. I think I'll upload the tests so people can decide but it's hard to really judge with this RUclips compression :p Specially when we talk about Noise in the footage. But my results were that lowering the contrast and the saturation and changing the shadow/highlight settings only bring in noise, because in the end, I am not keeping a flat profile, I am color grading it, bringing in more contrast etc. So the only difference I saw between leaving a the picture profile at 0 vs all the way down to -5 is that making it "flat" brought some unnecesary noise and lost some valuable information in colors that couldn't be brought back compared to the neutral 0 picture profile.

    • @iamjiroe
      @iamjiroe 6 лет назад +2

      You can see this very well actually if you clip the skin of someone in the highlights with a light, try bringing down the highlights in the camera and you'll see it doesn't help. The detail is gone.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад +3

      I am certainly willing to discuss about that, but the waveform cant't lie, my practical results after color grading hundreds of clips shot on G85 using various settings are also that settings shown in this video are the best for capturing as much dynamic range as possible. Noise is mostly introduced with highlights / shadows settings, which is why I only recommend -1 / +1 setting there. I am also editing on 100% AdobeRGB 10-bit IPS calibrated monitor, so that can make a difference in what you see as well.

  • @수천도
    @수천도 6 лет назад

    It's very useful for me. Thanks a lot.

  • @JohannKristan
    @JohannKristan 5 лет назад

    are you sure you can't choose auto white balance in M video mode? Because I just checked it and I can select it while having the Cinelike D profile.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  5 лет назад

      You can use auto WB with M settings but not auto ISO.

  • @chrisstokes2418
    @chrisstokes2418 7 лет назад

    brilliant video . very well done!!!

  • @markmurphy5486
    @markmurphy5486 6 лет назад +1

    So should I use a Cine4 normalisations LUT before I begin colour grading?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад +1

      Personally, I don't use LUTs at all, so I can't tell you, but it is worth trying.

    • @markmurphy5486
      @markmurphy5486 6 лет назад

      Ah I see, thanks for the quick reply.

  • @unbroken1010
    @unbroken1010 5 лет назад

    Do you recommend this flat profile setting for Stills as well on a gx7. And just boosting everything in post. I'm really having a problem finding a nice profile for the gx7 that gets me a nice film look where I've had no problem figuring out a profile on my other cameras. I am using 50mm panny/ leica prime

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  5 лет назад +1

      No, I recommend shooting RAW for stills.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 5 лет назад

      @@TheHybridShooter thanks. Right now I'm trying to concentrate on best out of camera jpegs because I don't have access to a computer most of the time. Can you recommend a raw conversion app for Android

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  5 лет назад

      @@unbroken1010 Snapseed is the best one by far.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 5 лет назад

      @@TheHybridShooter yeah I like it . it does raw for. Pansonic.? It does not do raw for Fuji.. it does do raw for my Ricoh GR I get really nice stuff with it. I've actually had stuff published using only Snapseed. Thanks for the advice

  • @princea1105
    @princea1105 4 года назад

    After the video...i would like buy a camera for only videos ... Which one is the best is it G85 or A6500....plz say which one is suitable for me...plz

  • @A1Bokeh
    @A1Bokeh 5 лет назад

    do you think thsi would be good on the g9? I also turn down the settings i think the picture comes out much better and almost cleaner as well

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  5 лет назад

      G9 has Cinelike D with Auto ISO, so I don't use it on G9.

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh 5 лет назад

      The Hybrid Shooter So would you also turn down settings in cinelike D

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  5 лет назад

      I would, but I am struggling a lot with flat footage from the G9.

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh 5 лет назад

      @@TheHybridShooter really? how so ?

  • @LogicmanTv
    @LogicmanTv Год назад

    My Lumix G95 always produce noise each time I preview the footage on computer

  • @bojam02
    @bojam02 7 лет назад +1

    would you use different setting if you know you will shoot indoor ?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад +2

      Not necessarily, this mode is suitable for all-round use.

    • @bojam02
      @bojam02 7 лет назад

      thx for the reply

  • @masternick94
    @masternick94 4 года назад

    I have used this color profile with settings like yours on my panasonic g80 to shoot in a wedding, and I noticed that blue clothes practically turn black

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  4 года назад

      There are no color changes with my settings and it captures higher dynamic range, so it can't be caused by these settings.

  • @lyndonlabayan
    @lyndonlabayan 6 лет назад

    This is such a great video. I'm a year late to the party.

  • @vrrrdaan728
    @vrrrdaan728 3 года назад +1

    thanks

  • @smalltalk.productions9977
    @smalltalk.productions9977 6 лет назад

    still relevant, at least to me! thank you for the effort and the sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. thumbs up.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      You're welcome, I'm glad that is was helpful.

    • @smalltalk.productions9977
      @smalltalk.productions9977 6 лет назад

      @@TheHybridShooter i just rewatched this vid and STILL helpful. gain, thank you. in a tangental way, what are your G85/gx85/g7 color profile settings for best straight out of camera footage? thumbs up.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      @@smalltalk.productions9977 I mostly use standard picture style for that, or sometimes natural.

  • @Narqosh
    @Narqosh 6 лет назад

    Does your custom settings give more dynamic range than Cinelike-D?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      Yes, it does.

    • @Narqosh
      @Narqosh 6 лет назад

      @@TheHybridShooter Great, Thank You ;)

    • @KtmDesignz
      @KtmDesignz 6 лет назад +1

      no it doesnt... if anything it adds more noise, try it yourself

  • @jaezoeofficial
    @jaezoeofficial 5 лет назад

    I just bought mines this week !!!! Waiting for it Thursday and i will do a full review of it myself !! and compare it to the old DMC-LX100 which is a cheaper/budget camera that i've been using for quite a while.. Go follow me and stay tune!

  • @IntheDAW
    @IntheDAW 6 лет назад

    loved this I mosly do video with my g85 but I love this setting

  • @pauloancarvalho
    @pauloancarvalho 7 лет назад

    I just got a panasonic g80 for 600€ on black friday with 12-60 kit lens. I'm used to canon 80d and i can't replace it because autofocus is crucial for what i do professionally, however i'm very interested in the dual ibis from panasonic for my travel stuff, are not the cine d style profiles good enough that ship with the camera?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад

      Cinelike D is good profile, but it is not possible to use it with Auto ISO and it is too flat for some scenes.

    • @pauloancarvalho
      @pauloancarvalho 7 лет назад

      Oh I see! Thanks for the info 🙏 I will test this profile then! 😁

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад

      I personally never use shutter priority, because I want to have aperture under control all the time. Aperture priority in manual movie mode also works with auto ISO, but manual doesn't.

  • @Igelpapa368
    @Igelpapa368 7 лет назад

    Hi hybrid shooter, I'm really new to video shooting and grading, so my question is : You drop sharpness to -5, why? Did you resharpen afterwards or is there no need for it? I just don't quite understand it.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад

      That's because sharpened video is not necessarily suitable for all purposes, and if you turn it down in camera you can control level of the sharpness in the editing.

    • @Igelpapa368
      @Igelpapa368 7 лет назад

      The Hybrid Shooter ah okay, now I get it. I thought that 0 would be enough and - would mean the camera "undersharpens" the video for some reason. That is what I didn't understand. Do you recommend it also so for cinelike video or dynamic. I don't necessarily need manual video mode. Looking the shutter to what I need or for me even letting it in P mode does the job most of the times.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад

      Depends on what look do you want to achieve, the best would be to try the settings yourself so that you can seed how the footage looks.

  • @pauloancarvalho
    @pauloancarvalho 7 лет назад +1

    Don't you consider a gh5?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад +1

      No, I do not, I prefer Sony A6500 to GH5, but I might get G9 as G80 upgrade.

    • @pauloancarvalho
      @pauloancarvalho 7 лет назад

      G9 has some real powerful specs even for video! Great consideration as an upgrade!

  • @dukebozikowski3801
    @dukebozikowski3801 6 лет назад

    When you take the contrast down doesn't that introduce noise?

  • @wendydrinkslove6516
    @wendydrinkslove6516 7 лет назад +6

    Notification squad!

  • @muttyhc
    @muttyhc 7 лет назад

    What would you recommend for a good ooc setting, with minimal post editing?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад +4

      Standard picture profile with no customization is actually really good IMO. You can increase contrast and saturation by +1 to make footage more distinctive.

  • @johnnydospassos5167
    @johnnydospassos5167 5 лет назад

    Hy Do you know if G85 model got HDMI LIVE mode and keep sending video signal trough the HDMI out put during filming ? ( My DMC-FZ300 LUMIX shutdown the monitor and give me a nice black window !!! ) PS : Same limitation on GH7

    • @kavenskindelbeau5042
      @kavenskindelbeau5042 5 лет назад

      Johnny Dos Passos the g85 got hdmi live and give u a nice view when u record on it , its not the same case for the g7 ( automatically u start to record with the g7 the screen monitor goes black )
      Wanna sell my g7 for getting a g85

  • @jonaspyromagic
    @jonaspyromagic 6 лет назад

    Whitch Camera Mode do you use while recording videos ?

  • @cameronarehart9527
    @cameronarehart9527 6 лет назад

    Dose it work with the g9?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      It does, but G9 produces better files, so there are better option for shooting flat on G9.

  • @msvisuals9327
    @msvisuals9327 6 лет назад

    Amazing !!!!!

  • @jakekulik4081
    @jakekulik4081 3 года назад

    thank you, good sir

  • @caspervon3880
    @caspervon3880 6 лет назад

    Awesome tutorial bro! I noticed you used APP2018 for editing, I also updated to 2018 version in october, then it started to crash in splash screen before it didn't even load any files. Right now it's been almost four months since I last edited my projects with it... I've also tried to reinstall back to 2017 version but it also started crashing. I'm telling this, because did you have any problems after updating it? Would be nice to get back to editing... Btw I also have G80, its awesome. :)

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      Thank you, I have had some issues with GPU that was not compatible with newer version of the Premiere Pro, than it worked really bad. Since I upgraded my PC I haven't had any issues.

    • @caspervon3880
      @caspervon3880 6 лет назад

      Cool to know. I've read in the adobe's forums from hundreds of people complaining about the same issue I have and they also gets frustrated by this and including me. Most of them are nvidia users btw so I don't know if that has something to do about it. Hope there's solution for that. :P

  • @ArpadAmbrus
    @ArpadAmbrus 7 лет назад

    Thanks a lot! Would you recommend this for the G6 as well?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад

      You're welcome, I have never used G6, so I unfortunately don't know whether the codec is suitable for these settings.

    • @ArpadAmbrus
      @ArpadAmbrus 7 лет назад

      Fair enough! :) Thanks for the answer, might still give it a try.

  • @ancellrembang4338
    @ancellrembang4338 6 лет назад

    Thanks Hybrid Shooter....veru useful...because until now I cannot add Vlog (looking for free)...my question is : What about Setting Master Pedestal Level and Highlight Shadow? I always set on MPL +15 and HS H-1 S+1...already subscribe for U

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      G85 doesn't have master pedestal, so I haven't tested that, highlights / shadows can increase dynamic range, but recommend max -1 / +1. I appreciate your subscription!

  • @EddyEdify
    @EddyEdify 4 года назад

    thank you

  • @AwesomeKicks
    @AwesomeKicks 7 лет назад

    I shoot mostly video and I need to upgrade my current camera which is the Nikon D3200. I'm stuck between the G80, a6300 and the Fuji X-T20. In Sweden, the G80 kit costs 1200 USD. a6300 body only costs 960 USD and the Fuji X-T20 18-55 f/2.8-4 kit costs 1400 USD. Help! Which is the best choice?
    btw, I'm blown away by the quality that your channel has. Keep it up!

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад

      Thank you, it depends on your preferences, I have made video comparison of Sony A6500 and G85, that may help you decide: ruclips.net/video/kt2RTPBye1U/видео.html&list=PLXAOglgekGttYGEIR6-HmyHXdTD-Tux02

    • @angriestphotographer3590
      @angriestphotographer3590 7 лет назад

      Get A6300 + kit lens

  • @jesusrey6063
    @jesusrey6063 6 лет назад

    this configuration applic for a panasonic G7

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      It should, but haven't tested it on G7.

    • @jesusrey6063
      @jesusrey6063 6 лет назад

      Would you recommend this type of profile for nocturnal recordings? or this profile settings are only for sunny days or with enough light.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  6 лет назад

      Depends on specific situation, it is also suitable for low light as you can see in the beginning of the video.

  • @murasaki1177
    @murasaki1177 5 лет назад +3

    I have tried
    Cine D + 4K 24P 8Bit + LUT 70% I did not get good result. Mostly all colors are easily broken.
    Natural + 4K 24P 8Bit + LUT 70% works okay, it holds up but no where near as good as a 10Bit color.
    SOMEHOW:
    Cine D + Leeming Luts works great
    Cine D + JooWorks Luts works great
    Cine D + Impulz Luts work great

    • @PhilippeOrlando
      @PhilippeOrlando 5 лет назад +2

      After many test with my G7 I can tell you that nothing beats the Cine D with the Leeming Lut.

    • @uprisingsuperstarartistxxl5719
      @uprisingsuperstarartistxxl5719 4 года назад

      @@PhilippeOrlando what settings do you use for your cine d

  • @kagumedia567
    @kagumedia567 6 лет назад

    Does this work with G6, too?

  • @EugeniaLoli
    @EugeniaLoli 5 лет назад +1

    I don't understand why you don't put the highlights to -5. Highlights don't introduce noise, the shadows do. You'll get a LOT more DR in the highlights with -5 setting.

    • @albinocify
      @albinocify 5 лет назад

      I'm a newbie to color grading. What would you personally recommend someone do in order to get the most DR when color grading? And have you used a v-log on a g85?

    • @EugeniaLoli
      @EugeniaLoli 5 лет назад +3

      @@albinocify It's generally not a good idea to use LOG in 8 bit footage, because it breaks badly during color grading. You need a 10bit camera for LOG grading. That vlog was thrown into the G85 for marketing reasons, it has no real purpose. For 8 bit cameras, use the best rec709 profile, in this case: either cinelike-d, or natural, with saturation, and sharpness all the way down, and highlights at -5 and shadows at +3.

    • @GlennUpgraded
      @GlennUpgraded 5 лет назад

      Eugenia Loli
      contrast 0
      Saturation -5
      Sharpness -5
      Noise Reduction 0
      Highlights -5
      Shadow +3
      Is this what you’ll recommend that’ll give the most dynamic range?

  • @froznfire9531
    @froznfire9531 6 лет назад

    i will try that :)

  • @jwz1780
    @jwz1780 5 лет назад +1

    가성비 짱

  • @abhidmusic7819
    @abhidmusic7819 5 лет назад

    good

  • @VideoClubos
    @VideoClubos 6 лет назад

    Супер

  • @arslan_at
    @arslan_at 6 лет назад

    КРУТО

  • @rjyanal
    @rjyanal 7 лет назад

    Sorry, but I don't understand the point of this. You "flatten" the image only to bring it back in post? Because ...?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  7 лет назад +7

      Yes, it allows you to capture more dynamic range and details in highlights and shadows. Every new movie is shot in flat picture profile and color graded in post, it is how you achieve best possible quality.

    • @7alken
      @7alken 5 лет назад

      @@TheHybridShooter hi, great change/results, - pls, its something like old audio tape dolby compression during recording and expansion during playback approach applied to video signal to enhance dynamic range?

  • @13_cmi
    @13_cmi 3 года назад

    The only big difference I noticed between the natural and cinelike d profiles is the blue reflections off of my glasses. Cinelike d makes it look super wonky and gross and I'm not a fan