very well made video. Did you ever get word from Anycubic? and what do you think of them after a few months of use? Both are up on Black friday sales, I'm not really keen on the giant Jupiter, just way too big when compared tothe anycubic.
Thank you for the comparison. I personally prefer the gravity-fed refill design of the Jupiter. It's a simple design, but that's not a bad thing. I think as long as you're careful not to crossthread the caps, the odds of an overfill situation are probably pretty remote. Then again, it only takes one time to get burned LOL
The peristaltic pump for resin recovery seems like a more elegant solution than Elegoo or Anycubic’s sending solution, however what is there to stop hardened bits of resin in the vat from being sent back into the bottle and creating free radicals that can mess up future prints?
Great review I just purchased the Anycubic photon m3 max One thing though it’s not a V8 engine it doesn’t need a tone of grease just a dab of Vaseline on the screw and rails will last for years.
Fantastic video, I think the difference in the structure of both machines comes down to cost savings. Although the Jupiter is very sturdy, I'm happier with the weight and cost savings gained by the Max's plastic cover. I think the Jupiter is a little "over the top" considering the build volume. The shipping costs are also massive. The Max generally has free shipping.
shipping costs usally are FREE SHIPPING, you can easily put a pipe out for the fumes on Jupiter, with M3 MAX you simply cannot contain the fumes inside, also its technology is a POS with a slow mo procesor, display looks like comes from the 90's. VERY diapointed with the M3 MAX
Thanks for this. I'll be checking back to see what Elegoo has to say regarding the play in the lead screw. I had been leaning towards the Elegoo, but now I'm undecided.
@@twinstalk The more I think about this, I have to wonder if that vertical play would make any difference in the print quality. It seems like the only thing it would effect would be the lift height. After looking more closely, it looks like the coupler itself is stretching, and that is the source of the movement. Regardless, I would think adding an extra mm to the lift height would be enough to accommodate the linear flex.
I've had the Jupiter for a few months and it's definitely the best printer I've used, I returned my M3 MAX and used the money to buy the saturn 2.. I've not had any play in my build plate and I've done a bunch of large prints that maxed out my z axis to within 2mm and the prints have been absolutely perfect, since it arrived I've sold both of my mono x's as well because the Jupiter is a beast!
@@printitpaintit.2436 Thanks for your input. I will be getting the Saturn 2 soon as my first printer. And I'm pretty much decided on the Jupiter after I get the hang of the Saturn 2. After considering it, I really don't think the flex in the z coupling would have any effect on printing function.
Thanks! I bought the Anycubic Photon Max to make large prints. I bought a cure station. The Creality UW-2 is the only one that fits the size of prints I am making, so I had to accept it with warts and all. I would love to see your thorough take on washing and curing
@@RCREVIEWS101 I used it without problems for about a year for I didn't really have time to keep it up. I printed a lot of skulls and other bones from the body. I was pretty happy with it. It get some errors that were frustrated at times take close swatch complex prints to make sure it didn't fail
Que buen trabajo, una comparación muy profesional, mi decisión quedo clara despues de este video. Gracias por el tiempo y la dedicacion. Saludos desde Colombia . Good job, a professional comparison, my decision was clear after this video. Thanks for the time and dedication. Greetings from Colombia
Thanks for reporting the loose ball screw. There's another video were the guy cant understand WTF is going wrong and he probably has the same issue. I dont think it will work right until that's solved.
- Rusty rails - Cracked rear window - Flimsy noisy front metal panel - Buggy screen - 10sec freezes at lift and retract - Normal 5h print is 25h due to stutter - Pump screams at power on - Pump literally sucks, in reverse - homing sometimes compresses the screen for no reason, risky. Anycubic sold us a 1000$ trash can. I'm so pissed. They act like its nothing. Barely responding. Go with Elegoo, much more reliable and responsive.
Glad to see you back after a year, have you tried any prints on these 2 giants? Any different in print quality that can clearly spot on? I believe Anycubic come with protective screen between LCD and FEP film, will it have any effect on the UV power that have to go through additional layer of glass? Longer exposure time than Elegoo?
Thanks. No prints yet. The screen protector should not have an influence on the uv light source power i.e. exposure time. These screen protectors do have a very high light permeability. I will test with the screen protector on. Just have to wait for elegoo service to responde to my email. Did send it out today.
Why does a refill "system" even need a pump? Just have a holder that holds the opening of your resin bottle in the vat at whatever depth your want your resin to stay at. That's it. The resin will pour out of the bottle until the level in the vat reaches the opening of the bottle. Once the resin reaches the opening of the bottle, air can no longer get into the bottle and a partial vacuum is formed in the bottle preventing more resin from filling the vat. When the level in the vat drops below the opening of the bottle once more, air can rush in equalizing the pressure in the bottle allowing some more resine to flow out. It's super simple. No pumps, no power, no sensors or computers needed, nothing extra to clean, will work with any bottle and is basically fail proof. There simple ways to make this even better, like drilling one hole in the top of the lid and another on the neck at the desired resin depth, this way air isn't trying to enter the bottle the same way resin is trying to leave and with smaller holes, it's much easier to remove the bottle without too much spillage.
I like the weight and construction, and I think the feeding system of the Elegoo Jupiter, but I need it to be larger. I might have to get a Mega 8K from Phrozen as I am printing 1 to 4 foot models of Star Trek ships, so the least amount of pieces that I can make to model them, the happier I am about it. I have had problems with the auto resin feed on the M3 Max, which from what I have seen, It works well or not at all. I have also had issues with Anycubic CS, and waiting forever for parts to ship. I don't like that the Jupiter is 6K also. It is probably Stupid on my part and my models are somewhat simple, but if any of these companies come out with a 10K, or 12k model and can print on like a 20 inch screen like 2 feet on the Z axis and can be like in the 6000 dollar range, I will be there.
@@smallnuts2 I ordered one and have it on the way. The Star Trek TOS Constitution class is just over 4 feet in length. I have a M3 Max and it makes some big parts but has its limitations mostly on the Z axis of the prints.
That was very informative and in-depth. Thank you for taking the time to properly examine both machines. In full disclosure I backed the Jupiter, but took the refund after the many delays. I’m in no way knocking the Jupiter, but after watching your presentation I might have dodged a bullet.
There are some people in the Facebook group having issues with their prints and getting the first layer right. Maybe it is connected to my problem. Let's see what elegoo will respond.
@@twinstalk while there may be a problem with the printer that has yet to be diagnosed, I’m sure it’s more user error. Having been in most of these groups too many don’t understand what they’re doing. They refuse to look for solutions, won’t take advice, and sully a product that they shouldn’t even poses. I’ve read Amazon reviews where they returned a printer because it wouldn’t print an stl no mater how many times they leveled it. Before the Jupiter was released many on that page told new users to get a cheap compact printer to learn on. They barely had the funds to purchase the Jupiter and didn’t think of the resin it would consume, to even fathom learning on something more affordable. Now you see them posting that they don’t have a wash and cure system to go along with it, when there’s plenty of options. After closely looking at your video I would look at where the ball screw sits in the collar. Is it seated completely and correctly? Also is that a flex collar? It on its own will cause the deflection you showed. Are both ends tight, and seated fully? I would look at those first to diagnose the problem. Second I would also inspect the backlash components to make sure they are correctly installed. Lastly if those are all correct then I would look into the ball and screw. Are they matched tolerances? Is the ball the correct diameter? Remember machine parts will have a tighter tolerance with grease or oil. Could the parts be under lubricated and that’s the cause of deflection. I’d be curious to know if these would be the same questions their tech department would ask. Again I’m looking forward to your other videos comparing the two, and I hope you find a solution for the Jupiter.
@@lorinrobbins7911 thanks for the advice. I will see what the service will come up with and check the points you have mentioned. Will document my findings with some kind of a video log and post it here. Hope that there is an easy fix and posting it online will help others with similar problems.
I have been using the M3, and the M3 max. Good price, but so far the slicing is a pain in the ass, and the company sucks to deal with. I use Chitubox, but it converts the files into Anycubic files which has issues. I have been looking at Phrozen Mega 8K but I have seen some negative reviews on that, but that will happen with any and I am sure all of them. I have had to wait 3 weeks to get a replacement screen. That Sucks as I have been selling Star Trek models on Ebay, and now have to wait. I think I will order another screen or 2 to have spare.
I just got this M3 MAX and is problem after a problem, CS is worthless replying with copy/paste replies that has nothing to do with the problem you asked for. Have you got it to work? I can still retun it
I just got this M3 MAX and is problem after a problem, CS is worthless replying with copy/paste replies that has nothing to do with the problem you asked for. Have you got it to work? I can still retun it@@apratimjha917
I have had success and failures with it. I mostly hate their slicer software as it seems to not like my Blender models and tends to make areas and objects that are not there. Chitubox has helped but it still has to convert it into their slicer files to print.@@RCREVIEWS101
I actually broke down and I have a Mega 8K S on the way, but when the M3 max does work it is good. but yea, it seems like getting them to work is a pain in the butt sometimes
The any cubic has a grease nipple on the bottom of the linear guide block they need to be greased with gl2-3 minimum grease with a mini grease gun, anycubic uses garbage linear blocks and they come almost bone dry
I just got this Anycubic M3 MAX and I am very disappointed, the pump stopped working after one hour of use. The Display screen is like from the 90's, the whole machine shows poor quality, technology inside is old, VERY SLOW, cheaply made at premium price. I may will return it if their CS does not help with the issues, the reply back but with copy/paste replies that has nothign to do with your problem, not helpful. The Elegoo seems like a good choice, I like the enclosure as you can plug a pipe for the fumes. Seem all the M3 MAX problems was disappointing.
I had no idea m3 max was that big...I have a X2 that the print width has 20cm ..3d max's is 30cm, right? never thought would be such a huge difference on the machines. Is this video made by filthy hobbitses?
OP can't even take it out of an easily packaged box. Then, huffs and puffs like and eighty year old man having a heart attack. Sigh. I left before 3 minutes. He still was gasping and had not unwrap. How do you exist?
Yeah I am a little bit out of my form. But nice that you even watched 3 minutes. I had to laugh at your comment because you are so right. Maybe I should work out more.
@@twinstalk good on you for taking cold criticism from an anonymous person with a cool head. Thanks for this review, i was considering elegoo but that deflection is way to much for such a device.
@@twinstalk that was actually really funny!! I can relate to the struggle! Good on you for showing us the entire process without any cuts, instant sub from me 💚
That was a very professional in-depth comparison, thank you very much. Very useful content
very well made video. Did you ever get word from Anycubic? and what do you think of them after a few months of use? Both are up on Black friday sales, I'm not really keen on the giant Jupiter, just way too big when compared tothe anycubic.
Brilliant review! Please do more video's, looking forward to an update to this review :)
Man, you have done an excellent job on this review, well done, so useful.
Were are the Print comparison vid? Same Like Last year. With the Saturn and mono comparison. No Print results? Or i Just cant find them
Thank you for the comparison. I personally prefer the gravity-fed refill design of the Jupiter. It's a simple design, but that's not a bad thing. I think as long as you're careful not to crossthread the caps, the odds of an overfill situation are probably pretty remote. Then again, it only takes one time to get burned LOL
The peristaltic pump for resin recovery seems like a more elegant solution than Elegoo or Anycubic’s sending solution, however what is there to stop hardened bits of resin in the vat from being sent back into the bottle and creating free radicals that can mess up future prints?
I love the idea.
Great review I just purchased the Anycubic photon m3 max One thing though it’s not a V8 engine it doesn’t need a tone of grease just a dab of Vaseline on the screw and rails will last for years.
Estamos esperando la comparación en la impresión de las máquinas. Un saludo grande muy buen video
any update regarding the print tests ? love your channel , great work !!
Fantastic video, I think the difference in the structure of both machines comes down to cost savings. Although the Jupiter is very sturdy, I'm happier with the weight and cost savings gained by the Max's plastic cover. I think the Jupiter is a little "over the top" considering the build volume. The shipping costs are also massive. The Max generally has free shipping.
shipping costs usally are FREE SHIPPING, you can easily put a pipe out for the fumes on Jupiter, with M3 MAX you simply cannot contain the fumes inside, also its technology is a POS with a slow mo procesor, display looks like comes from the 90's. VERY diapointed with the M3 MAX
Thanks for this. I'll be checking back to see what Elegoo has to say regarding the play in the lead screw. I had been leaning towards the Elegoo, but now I'm undecided.
The printer looks great. Build quality is great. I am curious on how elegoo will help with my printer. Will keep you all up to date.
@@twinstalk The more I think about this, I have to wonder if that vertical play would make any difference in the print quality. It seems like the only thing it would effect would be the lift height. After looking more closely, it looks like the coupler itself is stretching, and that is the source of the movement. Regardless, I would think adding an extra mm to the lift height would be enough to accommodate the linear flex.
I've had the Jupiter for a few months and it's definitely the best printer I've used, I returned my M3 MAX and used the money to buy the saturn 2..
I've not had any play in my build plate and I've done a bunch of large prints that maxed out my z axis to within 2mm and the prints have been absolutely perfect, since it arrived I've sold both of my mono x's as well because the Jupiter is a beast!
@@printitpaintit.2436 Thanks for your input. I will be getting the Saturn 2 soon as my first printer. And I'm pretty much decided on the Jupiter after I get the hang of the Saturn 2. After considering it, I really don't think the flex in the z coupling would have any effect on printing function.
@@printitpaintit.2436 How are you liking the Saturn 2? Any good?
Did you ever finish your pump? Possible to access your plans so i can make one?
This is this the most professional 3D printer review I've seen. Great respect!!
Hope you can compare these to to the Phrozen Sonic Mega 8k some day.
I will try to get one. Let’s see.
Thanks! I bought the Anycubic Photon Max to make large prints. I bought a cure station. The Creality UW-2 is the only one that fits the size of prints I am making, so I had to accept it with warts and all. I would love to see your thorough take on washing and curing
any lucky with the M3MAX? I only got problems with this junk
@@RCREVIEWS101 I used it without problems for about a year for I didn't really have time to keep it up. I printed a lot of skulls and other bones from the body. I was pretty happy with it. It get some errors that were frustrated at times take close swatch complex prints to make sure it didn't fail
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662should i buy the m3 max ?
Did you had issues with it ?
A lot's of people talking that it was a bad printer
Just what I was looking for
Que buen trabajo, una comparación muy profesional, mi decisión quedo clara despues de este video. Gracias por el tiempo y la dedicacion. Saludos desde Colombia .
Good job, a professional comparison, my decision was clear after this video. Thanks for the time and dedication. Greetings from Colombia
What happened to the next part also thanks for the video
Thanks for reporting the loose ball screw. There's another video were the guy cant understand WTF is going wrong and he probably has the same issue. I dont think it will work right until that's solved.
I have a Peopoly Phenom, but man I am tempted by that Photon!
don't, it is a POS
RIP Part 2 :(
Great presentation - thank you
Print quality?
is the jupiter print volume large enough to print a helmet all in one go? not in parts.
1st time ive seen someone need a break in a unboxing video.😂
- Rusty rails
- Cracked rear window
- Flimsy noisy front metal panel
- Buggy screen
- 10sec freezes at lift and retract
- Normal 5h print is 25h due to stutter
- Pump screams at power on
- Pump literally sucks, in reverse
- homing sometimes compresses the screen for no reason, risky.
Anycubic sold us a 1000$ trash can.
I'm so pissed.
They act like its nothing. Barely responding.
Go with Elegoo, much more reliable and responsive.
just got this Junk M3 MAX, I probaly will need endure all the PIA of returning it now
Glad to see you back after a year, have you tried any prints on these 2 giants? Any different in print quality that can clearly spot on? I believe Anycubic come with protective screen between LCD and FEP film, will it have any effect on the UV power that have to go through additional layer of glass? Longer exposure time than Elegoo?
Thanks. No prints yet. The screen protector should not have an influence on the uv light source power i.e. exposure time. These screen protectors do have a very high light permeability. I will test with the screen protector on. Just have to wait for elegoo service to responde to my email. Did send it out today.
Why does a refill "system" even need a pump? Just have a holder that holds the opening of your resin bottle in the vat at whatever depth your want your resin to stay at. That's it. The resin will pour out of the bottle until the level in the vat reaches the opening of the bottle. Once the resin reaches the opening of the bottle, air can no longer get into the bottle and a partial vacuum is formed in the bottle preventing more resin from filling the vat. When the level in the vat drops below the opening of the bottle once more, air can rush in equalizing the pressure in the bottle allowing some more resine to flow out. It's super simple. No pumps, no power, no sensors or computers needed, nothing extra to clean, will work with any bottle and is basically fail proof.
There simple ways to make this even better, like drilling one hole in the top of the lid and another on the neck at the desired resin depth, this way air isn't trying to enter the bottle the same way resin is trying to leave and with smaller holes, it's much easier to remove the bottle without too much spillage.
I like the weight and construction, and I think the feeding system of the Elegoo Jupiter, but I need it to be larger.
I might have to get a Mega 8K from Phrozen as I am printing 1 to 4 foot models of Star Trek ships, so the least amount of pieces that I can make to model them, the happier I am about it.
I have had problems with the auto resin feed on the M3 Max, which from what I have seen, It works well or not at all.
I have also had issues with Anycubic CS, and waiting forever for parts to ship.
I don't like that the Jupiter is 6K also. It is probably Stupid on my part and my models are somewhat simple, but if any of these companies come out with a 10K, or 12k model and can print on like a 20 inch screen like 2 feet on the Z axis and can be like in the 6000 dollar range, I will be there.
Thinking of getting the Phrozen 8k mega too. I want to do 4 ft models.
@@smallnuts2 I ordered one and have it on the way.
The Star Trek TOS Constitution class is just over 4 feet in length.
I have a M3 Max and it makes some big parts but has its limitations mostly on the Z axis of the prints.
That was very informative and in-depth. Thank you for taking the time to properly examine both machines. In full disclosure I backed the Jupiter, but took the refund after the many delays. I’m in no way knocking the Jupiter, but after watching your presentation I might have dodged a bullet.
There are some people in the Facebook group having issues with their prints and getting the first layer right. Maybe it is connected to my problem. Let's see what elegoo will respond.
@@twinstalk while there may be a problem with the printer that has yet to be diagnosed, I’m sure it’s more user error. Having been in most of these groups too many don’t understand what they’re doing. They refuse to look for solutions, won’t take advice, and sully a product that they shouldn’t even poses. I’ve read Amazon reviews where they returned a printer because it wouldn’t print an stl no mater how many times they leveled it.
Before the Jupiter was released many on that page told new users to get a cheap compact printer to learn on. They barely had the funds to purchase the Jupiter and didn’t think of the resin it would consume, to even fathom learning on something more affordable. Now you see them posting that they don’t have a wash and cure system to go along with it, when there’s plenty of options.
After closely looking at your video I would look at where the ball screw sits in the collar. Is it seated completely and correctly? Also is that a flex collar? It on its own will cause the deflection you showed. Are both ends tight, and seated fully? I would look at those first to diagnose the problem. Second I would also inspect the backlash components to make sure they are correctly installed. Lastly if those are all correct then I would look into the ball and screw. Are they matched tolerances? Is the ball the correct diameter? Remember machine parts will have a tighter tolerance with grease or oil. Could the parts be under lubricated and that’s the cause of deflection. I’d be curious to know if these would be the same questions their tech department would ask.
Again I’m looking forward to your other videos comparing the two, and I hope you find a solution for the Jupiter.
@@lorinrobbins7911 thanks for the advice. I will see what the service will come up with and check the points you have mentioned. Will document my findings with some kind of a video log and post it here. Hope that there is an easy fix and posting it online will help others with similar problems.
Exactly what grease to buy for Anycubic rails? Just ordered one.
Very informative.
I have been using the M3, and the M3 max. Good price, but so far the slicing is a pain in the ass, and the company sucks to deal with.
I use Chitubox, but it converts the files into Anycubic files which has issues.
I have been looking at Phrozen Mega 8K but I have seen some negative reviews on that, but that will happen with any and I am sure all of them.
I have had to wait 3 weeks to get a replacement screen. That Sucks as I have been selling Star Trek models on Ebay, and now have to wait.
I think I will order another screen or 2 to have spare.
hello brother I'm also facing issue to slicing the printing files .can you tell me how can i slice perfectly..very disponting about after service
I just got this M3 MAX and is problem after a problem, CS is worthless replying with copy/paste replies that has nothing to do with the problem you asked for. Have you got it to work? I can still retun it
I just got this M3 MAX and is problem after a problem, CS is worthless replying with copy/paste replies that has nothing to do with the problem you asked for. Have you got it to work? I can still retun it@@apratimjha917
I have had success and failures with it. I mostly hate their slicer software as it seems to not like my Blender models and tends to make areas and objects that are not there. Chitubox has helped but it still has to convert it into their slicer files to print.@@RCREVIEWS101
I actually broke down and I have a Mega 8K S on the way, but when the M3 max does work it is good. but yea, it seems like getting them to work is a pain in the butt sometimes
The any cubic has a grease nipple on the bottom of the linear guide block they need to be greased with gl2-3 minimum grease with a mini
grease gun, anycubic uses garbage linear blocks and they come almost bone dry
What happened, why did you stop making videos?
I may get the jupiter if it goes 12k Instead of 6k.
I just got this Anycubic M3 MAX and I am very disappointed, the pump stopped working after one hour of use. The Display screen is like from the 90's, the whole machine shows poor quality, technology inside is old, VERY SLOW, cheaply made at premium price. I may will return it if their CS does not help with the issues, the reply back but with copy/paste replies that has nothign to do with your problem, not helpful. The Elegoo seems like a good choice, I like the enclosure as you can plug a pipe for the fumes. Seem all the M3 MAX problems was disappointing.
You would never get an upward deflection on any resin printer.
I have the m3 max. Are incredible slow to print.
Anycubic win
Who can afford that much resin, to say nothing of the hassle of cleaning and curing.
These are for biiiggggg prints :) I am also searching for a cheaper solution to get the resin. Maybe someone can comment on this here?
@@twinstalk How fast do they print compared to say an Ender 3?
@@Martial-Mat Will start a print comperison later on. I am in contact with Elegoo support now.
@@Martial-Mat Much faster then FDM a 300mm high takes 14hs on the Jupiter and that's stock settings I've brought that down to just under 13hs!
@@printitpaintit.2436 Thank you. That's useful information.
Why go through all that and not even test anything important lmfao
Where are the side by side test prints etc. Low effort useless review.
Delete
I had no idea m3 max was that big...I have a X2 that the print width has 20cm ..3d max's is 30cm, right? never thought would be such a huge difference on the machines. Is this video made by filthy hobbitses?
OP can't even take it out of an easily packaged box. Then, huffs and puffs like and eighty year old man having a heart attack. Sigh. I left before 3 minutes. He still was gasping and had not unwrap. How do you exist?
Yeah I am a little bit out of my form. But nice that you even watched 3 minutes. I had to laugh at your comment because you are so right. Maybe I should work out more.
@@twinstalk good on you for taking cold criticism from an anonymous person with a cool head. Thanks for this review, i was considering elegoo but that deflection is way to much for such a device.
@@twinstalk that was actually really funny!! I can relate to the struggle! Good on you for showing us the entire process without any cuts, instant sub from me 💚