Ford Performance Catch Can Results - Awesome or waste of money?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- It's been 5000 miles since I installed the catch can. Was it a worthwhile investment or complete junk??
Part 1: • TWO catch cans in your...
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PARTS
► Ford Performance Catch Cans:
▪︎ 2.3L: Ford Performance M-6766-B23
▪︎ 2.7L: Ford Performance M-6766-B27
► UPR Catch Cans
▪︎ 2.3L: UPR 5030-282-1
▪︎ 2.7L: UPR 5030-274-1
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CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
2:04 - Oil Change
7:16 - The Results
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Thank you for the update on the cans. Great information!
Thank you for another great video.
Going to catch most on the positive side where the PCV is at. I’ve had same set up with two one on intake and other on out put side. Output side caught everything. Intake Nada. So what you can do is double up on the PCV side . Lot cleaner intake.
Join the discussion on the Bronco6G post: www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/ford-performance-air-oil-separator.74053/
Also check out my Bronco Oil Change Cheat-sheet on Bronco Nation: thebronconation.com/bronco-how-to-n.141/want-to-do-oil-changes-on-your-bronco-heres-the-info-you-need-t.16445/
i had 2019 ranger with the small motor. I installed a catch can i notice the catch can would have oil after road trips not around town driving. they do work give it time. I install one on my 2.7 bronco.
Figures Ford would make there's harder to empty, LOL. Great video!
So, I finally cracked my FP can open after running it for 4ish months/ 2 oil changes or so. I have 29k miles and vehicle lives outdoors in MI day-in, day-out. I was surprised to find a decent amount (couple ounces?) of rather foul-smelling oil (almost gassy?) lurking within. Seems to be doing a decent job of catching crap.
It's silly to expect anything to be collected on the clean side of the PCV loop. However, the Ford design is superior, so it should do a more efficient job of collecting blowby spooge and offer greater capacity than the UPR if moved to the dirty side of the loop.
I have a catch can on my truck and for how yellow that first one was on the lid; you emptied it before filming again🤣🤣
The driver side doesnt have as much blow by VS the passenger side.
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The Ford catch can works really well. I have one on my mustang and it does a great job of catching the oil vapor that would normally end up in the intake. The problem isn't the can, but where it is plumbed too. If you put it where the UPR is plumbed, it would catch as much (if not more) oil.
My only complaint with Ford's catch can is the lack of a drain plug. That really makes cleaning it much easier!
For your particular car, apparently you don't really need an oil catch can. I drive 392 Challenger and I change my oil every 2k (overkill I know) but my oil catch can is almost always full. I also know from previous experiences, that Infiniti Q50 twin turboed 3.0 also needs an oil catch can, because all the unburned oil goes directly onto intake valves and since Q50 3.0 are direct injected, after 50K your intake valves will be clogged up with carbon build up and good luck finding a decent shop that would do a 100% clean and honest job cleaning those valves up.
Maybe you are removing all the vapour residue with your originally installed catch can?
I suggest removing the original and try that for a change period, maybe you only need one!
Ragnar there are two sides to the crank case.
A) one side is called a "breather". this is connected to your fresh air. **** this is the one that was clean**** that is normal. I too had two catch cans and this side was completely clean (as is yours)....
**** the concept here is... when the turbo's make positive pressure on the intake... the crankcase vapors/pressure have no place to go and backs up into your fresh air system. Thus poluting your intercooler with nasty oily condensation..... NOT GOOD.... however... most people don't run with their turbos blasting full time. So this is virtually not really an issue. This explains the totally clean catch can... I hope this makes sense.
B) The other side is connected to your PCV valve which is pulling (blow by and nasty oily vapor from your engine crankcase to your intake. This is the oily nasty stuff you don't want in running through your intake manifold through your engine. (especially on a Direct Injected motor)
This is totally normal to get this catch can completely crudded up .
So...yes.... you only really need a "Catch can" on the PVC-intake (blow by nasty oily air) side of the crank case to intake manifold .
And.... yes, the two "Catch Can" system Ford and other is not necessary. ONE CAN YES (PCV SIDE)
Great video!!!! good call on the waste of money!!!
Is it an oil separator from Ford and not a catch can? Oil separators drains right back into the crankcase I believe. No service needed unlike a catch can.
Oil change on the 2.7is so much easier. And catch cans are snake oil if you ask me….most of what they catch is water vapours.
Yeah 2.7L is much easier. The o-rings on the canister/filter can sometimes be finicky, but it's nothing like the filter on the 2.3L.
I have one on my 5.0 and it catches about 1/2 a pint per oil change.
@@mrblackgabe1/2 pint of water vapours that won’t hurt your engine
@@Thatgreenbronco it’s not catching water vapors it’s catching oil. I didn’t think I had to specify.
Perhaps the valve in the PCV system to the oily can is the one that opens up first releasing the crank case fumes/pressure only there?
I would say you got nothing on the turbo can and very little on the simple fact that your bronco is farely new. New piston rings, and you are not getting whole lot of blow by. Also not enough miles driven. In an long run it will keep your intake and turbo clean. You have a nice set up there man! Nice bronco man keep it neat 👊👍
Don’t buy the ford one it does nothing for you, they have seemed to con more people into that one. The aftermarket catch can is needed it really is, so don’t take that off. And if your followers don’t have one please I recommend them to buy one
Really sucks that you had to break factory parts to put it in for it to do nothing.
Very interesting. I have the UPR as well, but just bought the Ford one for the Ranger because I don’t feel like going through that install again. Haha. I’ll let you know if the Ranger collects anything in a few months.
Side note - both my UPR hoses go down to the side of the motor only an inch or two apart from one another. One of your hoses looks like it’s piped on closer to the top of the engine. Did something change after 2021 models?
Wow, it changed mid-2021. I hated that install - having to blindly access the PCV and intake on the side of the engine through the wheel well wasn’t fun. You can see on UPR site that they have two different installation documents.
Yes, it's different. The 2021 Bronco had the same layout as the 2019/2020 Ranger. Early during 2022 Bronco production the layout of the PCV hose changed _slightly_ making it much easier to install the UPR catch can.
To be honest, I don't actually know if the newer Rangers adopted the same layout or not.
My Ranger is 2020…so, opted for the FP. I’ll report back after 5k.
@@marbledmeatshop did your fp oil catch can works? Im planingon buying
Did your FP oil catcch can works? Im planing on buying
Your other catch can is catching it before it gets to ford performance. If you didn’t have the other catch can. It would show up in the ford performance.
Could it be because you have the other catch-can installed too? And that is why the Ford one is dry.
Maybe?? I wouldn't have expected that simply because the Ford Performance one was plugged into the valve cover on top of the engine, while the UPR is plugged into the crankcase on bottom of the engine.
@@RagnarKon I have *only* the FP catch can; have yet to crack it open after about 3-4k of operation. Will keep you posted.
Not a waste of money. All that gunk in that catch can is that much gunk that didn't get into the throttle body, iac valve and intake. The filter is just letting clean air in and should be easy maintenance. The catch can will catch more as the engine ages and you still need to clean the throttle body once in awhile but, less with that catch can doing a lot of the dirty work.
Your Bronco is brand spanking new, as you drive more and put ware in the engine those oil catch cans will pay for them selves and then some
Do the catch cans void your Ford factory warranty??
No. As my Ford service manager said, and I quote: “NOTHING voids your warranty and anyone who tells you it does is lying.” In other words, you always have your warranty, but you CAN do things to your truck that will cause a Ford dealer to not cover the repairs under warranty if your actions were the proximate cause of the damage. Which is fair. Ford should not pay for an owner’s installation mistakes if they cause damage. FWIW. BTW, do I trust my Ford dealer? Well, no. They’re a car dealer. But I don’t trust anyone else in the auto repair business, either. It’s called experience-I’m an old guy. 😅
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Catch can is not necessary on anything 2018 or newer. The 1st generation had a lot more blow by that would need the catch can. 2015 -- 2017. There is videos that explains way.
What oil drain valve did you install?
It's a Fumoto drain valve. Have it on all of my vehicles. Awesome stuff.
@@RagnarKonWhich one fits the 2.3, is it the F106 or F107?
@@LLQ423 F-107SX is the one I bought.
The drain plug has M12-1.75 threads, so F-137 should also work (but might require the extension).
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Oil blow by separators [catch cans] are the most useful on high compression NA [normally aspirated] and boosted engines, as that is when blow by is forced past piston rings and valve stem seals into the crankcase and then that vaporized oil is then evacuated by the PVC system[s] and heads towards the intake track and then into your combustion chamber. Racing a vehicle at full throttle or even towing under needed boost is when you create that blow by. If you are never really into boost, or have a low compression newer NA engine that doesn't need high octane gas, then any "catch can" isn't really needed. There's a reason Ford supplies the Shelby GT 500 with one and I'll bet these new racing Mustangs will all have one. If your cans stay dry [and are installed correctly] you're taking it easy. Try rally crossing where your either on boost or braking. Then look at your cans! UPR's dual system works great for the Ford 2.0 ECO engine. Never go over 3000 RPM? You don't need cans.
I think is a waste of money for the bronco. Is like everything else companies trying to make money. I got one for a year and mine is always empty. I had one on my old f150 and it worked right away
You need to check yourself if you really think catch cans “are a waste of money” lmao
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*sigh* after seeing the beginning, I wanted to give you an attaboy for showing the proper way to pour from oil bottles. Then…6:40 happened 🤦 🤣
You can use the same technique on the bigger jugs too 😁
Ya know… that honestly has never even occurred to me. But it makes perfect sense that you’d be able to pour the larger jugs in the same way.
We’ll just pretend 6:40 didn’t happen.
5000 miles and two drops of oil between both = complete waste of time and $!
Upr catch cans are far better..
Y’all been brainwashed into thinking you need to add one. Results speak for themselves. 😂😂😂
I track my bronco.
Boy do I have a catch can for you!!!
Want to trade a factory hose? 😉
@@RagnarKon lol. Thinking of maybe getting the b&m sport shifter though. looks kinda cool. Let me know what your thoughts are.
@@Clarkeisawesome I have my eye on it for sure. Waiting for Archetype Racing's shifter to be released before I make a final decision.
@@RagnarKon There are no videos on youtube of anyone who has gotten the shifter so if you do end up getting it please post one!!
Congratulations... You've voided your warranty. Ford explicitly says not to install catch cans
Nah, doesn't void warranty. Already got warranty service three times with it installed. Maybe if I had a problem with the PCV they wouldn't fix it under warranty, but otherwise it won't impact anything.
Furthermore, one of the catch cans in this video came directly from Ford. 😉
@@RagnarKon strange that there is a bulletin where Ford tells owners not to add a catch can. but you do you.
Well considering Ford Performance sells that condensation/separator
Catch cans are worthless on this motor. It already has an oil separator.
True. But since the 2.3L is a direct injection engine, I opted to give it a shot anyway.
Turns out even with the oil separator, the UPR catch can filtered out a fair amount of oil. Can't say the same about the Ford Performance one though, that seems to have been a giant waste of money.
I agree. I firmly believe that any direct injection engine should have a catch can. @@RagnarKon
Don’t complain about the lack of oil or liquid trash in the catch cans.
Be grateful your engine isn’t producing blow by contaminants.