Thanks for watching, here's a full parts list: Catch Can (2 needed): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XK9PTP7/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06XK9PTP7&linkId=c05f74427892e3f588afac517e1b605e APS Billet Lower Grill: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07819M8SV/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07819M8SV&linkId=aca6c631f68f1482156d41fa1dbd4a70 AEM DryFlow Air Filter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OKXNFE/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B006OKXNFE&linkId=1f0389d69717aa4dfc989895e1025695 BRAND SPANKIN' NEW CHANNEL MERCH! teespring.com/stores/trial-n-error More monkey business? Find me on Facebook: facebook.com/RUclipsTrialnerror/?view_public_for=232815904127596
@iAmJohn2004 The silver button is a different model that has an optional breather valve that he doesn't have installed. The silver button is just a cap for where the breather valve would go. I tried to link the model that he used but I guess he deleted my comment? I don't know 🤷.
I bought an engineered kit from Mishimoto for my 2016 2.7 ecoboost and put almost 200k miles on the truck with it. Best investment ever. I installed the catchcan at about 25k miles. And cleaned the throttle body and all three MAP sensors. I checked those another 2 times i owned the truck and they were clean. So absolutely worth ot on the ecoboost. Never once had an issue wirh that truck increadibly reliable. All basic maint. On the 200k miles i had it.
Just stumbled on this video. I have an F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost as well and love it. Agree wholeheartedly on the oil changes. I do mine every 5000 miles max. I also highly recommend adding MotorKote to your oil. I'm usually bot one for additives and snake oils but this is a good one that actually does what it says it does. Those turbos spin at 170000 RPM at highway speeds and generate a lot of heat. Those little micro ports can get clogged and no oil = kerploded turbo. It also does a lot to prevent that cam phaser rattle that these are known for. Also, after driving and parking your truck, let it idle for about 5 minutes before shutdown. It allows the turbos to cool properly and prevent premature failure. I learned that from our mechanic that maintains our fleet of ambulances that have turbo diesels.
The turbos in the ecoboost are also watercooled with a pump that runs after shutoff so unless you're running the engine super hard you shouldn't need to idle it, but it never hurts to err on the side of caution after a big drive.
I use the Motorkote Hyperlubricant engine treatment. Watch the demos and read the reviews. It's the only oil additive that actually does what it says it does.
I 2nd the coolent pumping after vehicle is shut off, but I still let it idle for a good 30 seconds to let everything get back to operational temperature.....
I just purchased a 2015 F-150 Platinum truck with the 3.5 L. It scares the crap out of me because it's so Hi-Tech. Thanks for the video. I need to learn more about this truck.
I just ordered two catch cans I was going to put one on,until I watched your video. I was wondering why nobody mentioned anything about the left side of engine .Thanks a lot for the info.I just subscribed.I’ll be seeing you again.....
Good video. This helped me with installing dual catch cans on our 2015 Expedition 3.5L Ecoboost. It took me longer to make the bracket to mount them on the firewall than it did to install the catch cans and hoses. Thanks.
I just bought an '18 F150 with 160k miles. Runs perfect, completely stock. Truck literally looks like a 20k mile truck. Previous owner def took care of it. Had full records and was Ford certified which means all oil changes were done on time and at an authorized dealer. It feels like a new truck, smells and looks like a new truck. Pulls everything I need it to. But I haven't did the mods yet, which I do plan to do. The first thing I did was put a soft tonneau cover on, which now everything stays dry in the bed. Also installed a 2nd row seat tray, which holds all my straps, fire extinguisher, and junk under the back seat. Installed husky liners which def keep the dirt off the carpet. Also installed a 3/4" hose on the evaporator drain pipe, passenger side firewall behind the wheel well liner, to prevent the common leak problem which hasn't appeared yet. I'm thinking about installing a programmer to remove the top speed limiter, and gain a little more power, lol. Not that it needs it, but why not...
@trentonharris5521 Where the condensate drain goes through the firewall it's poorly executed such that it's easy for the condensate to dribble back into and under the foam seal and under your passenger firewall/floor carpet. I had to do some serious remediation on mine since I have Husky mats and didn't discover it until I removed that one for a deep cleaning. They sell an overpriced elbow to fit over the drain and route the condensate clear of the wicking seal. Easy to find YT vids and accounts in forums with helpful details/mods to insure success. Would've cost Ford 29 cents to do it right.
I just installed this catch can setup and it works great. There is a sensor on the driver’s side PCV tube. It needs be installed on the hose coming off of the turbo pipe, not the valve cover or you will get an engine light.
In very cold winters, condensate in the catch can lines will freeze - unless you mount the cans so that gravity drains it into the can when you shut down the engine. My 2012 F150 (3.5L) had this trouble and oil (>1 quart) blew past a valve cover gasket. The oil leak stopped once the ice in the line melted & the crankcase pressure normalized. You southern boys won't have this problem, of course.
Had the exact same thing happen to my 2012 3.5 in the winter. Needed a new valve cover gasket. Our winters get cold enough that I will have to take the cans off for the season and replace it with the OEM hard line. Kind of defeats the purpose of the catch can setup for that part of the year, but can’t keep blowing gaskets. I am hoping that all that water condensate that forms in the winter might actually have a bit of a cleaning effect . In the summer the cans catch oil/ unburnt fuel. In the winter the amount it catches quadruples but I it seems to be 80% water.
I'm in the north too. If the can is located lower down and lines are ran so there are no low points and gravity will work, are there any issues that could impact gasket?
@@johannesgrimm9911 I also gave up completely on the catch cans in the winter. Some guys are drilling a small hole at the low point of the intercooler (it acts like a big catch can anyway). But, then you got that crap draining all over the place - not being captured in a can. The slight loss of boost in not significant, they say.
Just took some 18 gauge steel and bent over the top edge to make a lip. Screwed the cans into the long part and hung the lip from the factory battery tray. Super simple.
@@Trialnerror do those can lids where the inlet/outlet connections tap into have some sort of condensation screen involved? I have the JLT passngr can system since 15k miles, but wld like to put the drvrs on now at 33k, but if there isnt a screen those things arent performing to full potential vs the pricey ones, or possibly doing anything at all. Im not ragging on it, im 100% all for dealing with this concern on my '16 2.7l EB
@@Mike_Jones68 I bought the same catch cans (Same design anyway: Evil Energy w/o breather). They have a nice compartment on the "input" side that you can put steel wool into. I paid $19 each for two of them, and they are really good quality. The fittings and hoses are "meh" but easily replaced with quality parts and it is much cheaper than "brand name" catch cans. Very happy with mine so far.
@@TrialnerrorI’m curious about something. I did the same thing on my 2017 2.7L Ecoboost. About a week after installing my trick started making a high pitched whining noise. Couldn’t figure it out so I ended up at the dealer. They told me I was not supposed to put one on the driver’s side. I removed it and reinstalled the hoses that came on the truck. Noise eliminated. How have you not had the same issue?
I have 293,456 miles on my 2011 f150 lariat 3.5 and other than the K&N drop in air filter, MSD coils and 4” MBRP exhaust the engine is bone stock and I tow large 25’-35’ yachts with it every week and this thing still has a TON of power, no catch cans, no tune.
Subscribed to the channel! I love my '18 2.7 Babyboost, that I got in Dec.' 21, with 83,000 miles on the clock. I don't know what you do for a living, but I wish FoMoCo would pick you up as a common sense engineer! Great tips, thanks from a Texas fan.
They put the tag over the cooler to cut down on condensation getting in the system. Now they use shutter vents. The water in the system was causing plug problems. 2018 and newer use dual injection to help clean the valves and performance. Separators are a nice thing to have should've come from the factory with it.
That's really good information. Mine has the shutters and I disconnected them. My turbo knowledge comes from the aftermarket so I was thinking; "more air, more better". I had ASSumed the shutters were for mileage/EPA issues. I'll be plugging them back in now! Thanks again Pat for the great info!
I bought a used 2012 f150 about 5 years ago. I got a scorching good deal. It had a few items of neglect. sticky valves was one of the issues. I solved that and have no issues. I read about catch cans and opted to generate something Simler for NO cost. It is called a weep hole in the inner cooler. I leave it unplugged for the bypass gunk to drain. The weep hole serves as a port of entry for intake cleaning. It cleans the residue from the remining bypass gunk from the valve stems without messing with the downstream sensors.
@@chiingythao570 not if it is small. Mine is a tight fit for a straw from an injector cleaner. If you are still worried use a small screw to plug it. Just drain it often
I've got an 11 3.5 eco platinum with 293,756 and no catch can... yet. But I change oil ever 5,000 and drive it like an old man 50 miles every day. Thanks for showing this mod can be done cheaply. I've got 2 in my cart now.
I have 100k on my king ranch already, only have changed the cam shaft rear seal and the check valve and solenoid valve other than that its been regular maintenance. Runs like new. Thanks for the video
I was that guy too.. I never would buy or had purchased a new truck or car, worse financial decision ever. Then COVID hit and right now USED trucks are selling for over MSRP and if you can find the right dealer you can pick up a brand new truck at MSRP. I just picked up a 2021 F150 XLT FX4 brand new because it was at MSRP vs the older trucks selling at over MSRP. Granted MSRP of a 2018 is still lower then MSRP of a 2021 but the difference between a low mileage used F150 and a new F150 actually justified buying one new.
This is very true. About 3 months ago, just for fun I got a trade in quote for the truck in this video...it was $41,000....I paid $33,000 for it almost a ear earlier (I still have it, love it). Market has gone insane.
Would like to see a long term comparison of the valves with and without a catch can setup and how much differece in performance and mileage it makes. 218,000 on my 2013 3.5 ecoboost , rough idle on startup, but fine after about 1 minute.
They say it is normal for gdi to run ia little rough on cold start up.my car only has 22k its a 4cyl turbo gdi and has done this since new@@DominiAeternum
Yes..buying an unplanned 2013 F150 EcoBoost is what I did also as I past a Ford Dealership and the sticker price and truck caught my eye. Of course I had to buy a small economy car to go with it.
You could have mounted the front license plate on the FORD bracket that replaces the left bumper pad...see earlier model w/turbo...MY '11 - '14. So how did you mount the snazzy red dual catch-can array pleez? Thnx!
@@Trialnerror I don't know nuthin' 'bout no RADAR. If you mean Active Cruise Control, then no, my truck is MY2013. I am unsure how FORD's Cruise sys operates. My INFINITI has the Active & utilizes LIDAR.
About the plate location.... on previous gen 3.5's it was mounted on one of the bumper pads. However, there was an issue with the intercooler cooling the air TOO much. If I recall, this sometimes resulted in excess condensation buildup which led to water vapour entering the combustion chamber and reducing engine performance. Ford's fix for this was to install a plastic shroud that partially covers the intercooler! I'm not sure if that shroud is still present in later models but I could totally believe that they would relocate the plate back to center to act as a shroud. This would save them money on two fronts.
The catch cans are definitely needed on the 1st Gen motors but are not really needed on the 2nd Generation Ecoboost motors because they have port injection as well as direct injection. The port injection helps to keep the intake valves cleaner which was the main issue with the 1st Generation motors.
6:44 You say you used 1/2 in vacuum tubing but the gas can only comes with .24, .39, and .31 fittings. Did you have to also get the correct size fittings separately because you used a much larger hose that was originally supplied?
About buying new....I purchased a brand new 2019 F150 Lariat 502a package with moon roof FX4 in the 4th quarter of the year, got it at 0.99% Ford financed, they gave a new set of Winter tires with Ford Alloy wheel (not ugly steel rims) and Ford Tonneau Cover 50% off, with new Weather Teck mats for Free. Now coming to the point, I shopped a lot before buyin for used F150 Lariat or Platinum and none, I mean none I found which actually beat the price Ford offered for a new one...the Used price with finance monthly premium was either same as what Ford offered for a new or in some cases more..I even tried 4 years old models, no luck, so why bother buying used, I ended up buying a brand spanking new F150 loaded Lariat with all free goodies, Loving it (for family personal use).
Wow, that's a good deal! You're right, especially right now the used pricing for full size trucks is flat out insane. Carvana is offering me $10k more than what I paid for this truck. World's gone nutty.
Great video I have a 12 F150 3.5 EchoBoost. I don't drive it often because of all the problems others have had with. My advisor is a friend thats service manager at the local Ford dealership but my tips come fron RUclips.
I just bought a 3.5 Eco with 48k on it. I like the truck A LOT so far but I'm nervous. Always been a preventive maintenance guy (I guess that's the US Army in me) but if something goes wrong I hope it does before the warranty is up.
I very much agree! I refuse to buy new stuff. Some sucker out there will drop a pretty penny for new stuff and then I swoop in on Facebook marketplace and lowball em and it usually works. Surfboards. Foil gear. Cars. Hell, even my dog.
Great video… only a 1,000 miles per year? My 2015 3.5 is almost to 300k miles. No catch can and all oil changes were 10k intervals. Maybe half million miles if I wouldve installed a catch can.
just got a 2014 3.5 ecoboost with 100k miles. Then did research lol. It has had oil changes every 10k but I'm hoping I can do a few things to it, change oil every 5k, and not deeply regret this purchase lol. Prolly doin the catch can first and checking the intake valves for carbon.
Thanks for the video! I installed the dual catch can system and the catch can that should have the most material isnt collecting anything??? And my hoses are hooked up properly...
Hello again thanks for replying last time but for the past 5months I've been collecting from the drivers side catch can and still nothing from the passenger side... is there something else I can check? Both cans have the same filter and hooked up correctly still not a drop from the passenger side.
Hi, I just bought a new 2024 Raptor that comes with the 3.5l Ecoboost. It's my first Ecoboost truck and all new to me. Have they done anything to the newer engines to improve or nullify blow by? Should I do the same upgrade now or wait for a certain amount of break in miles before I do so? Thanks
You pack it into the little round holder inside the intake side of the can. That's what catches the oil/air mixture and uses gravity to drop it into the can.
Hello, first of all, thanks for such a good information for these beautiful trucks, after analyzing what you recommend, it is very valuable for me your answer. What value really adds, adding E3 spark plugs to these vehicles?. Thanks for answering. BR
My ecobost the license plate is on that black piece on the bumper but I do need to put a grill in where the iner cooler is I have been meaning to do that since 2013 when I got it
Yes, I left everything exactly as it came from stock, just running through the catch can before it returns. Really shouldn't throw any codes unless you have a vacuum leak on the drivers side.
@@Trialnerror nice video. I installed the passenger side months ago and no issues. After one day with drivers side, check engine light came on. I left the sensor and attached the same hose you have to the van after the sensor. Is this how you set yours up? Not sure why I am getting a code. I put the factory hose back on, cleared the code and no issues.
I have a 2014 Explorer 3.5 EB. I have a catch can, but not two. Do the transverse mounted 3.5 EB's have the same connections to put a second catch can on?
Hey- loved your video. I've only ever had F-150's and is my fourth (2016). It has 68000 on it now and I Love it!!! I drove other brands, and they can't compare to these. If you would put up your paint correction videos that would be great. I don't know if you do anything with door ding removal... That would be great too.
I just got mine all set up and didn’t get any engine lights which is alway nice. The only thing I’ll be doing differently is putting in a couple one way check valves to prevent blow back or what ever they call it.
@@Trialnerror I'd be more worried about Armor All, and aerosols outside my engine compartment... but then again, I might beat a person if I caught them with either of those in my paint booth. LOL
You have direct and port so it's better, but it's not perfect. You would benefit from adding a catch can but it's not as critical a need as it could be.
Catch can is great it you are in an area that doesn’t freeze. There is moisture created and it will freeze in he catch can and eventually plug it creating a high pressure build up and could blow out seals like a rear main seal or the weakest link and now you have a oil leak
I live in a place where it is often below freezing and it's never an issue because of the amount of oil that is mixed in to that moisture. I've never had any issues with it freezing and when it's running there's actually heat which would melt any blockage before it had a chance to blow out a seal.
Great video! I will be adding the catch cans just like you did, thanks! I don't believe in anything but paper air filters on turbo engines. You don't need extra flow, it is going to boost to a max pressure(15ish psi in this case) and then dump the rest via the waste gate. I've been through the aftermarket world on my cummins and can tell you with certainty that none of them filter as well as a high quality paper filter. If you or anyone is in dusty conditions I strongly recommend stock paper filters.
Love the video. I'm buying a 2013 f150 ecoboost this week and want to add the catch can system. Any way you could do an indepth video on hose routing and mounting cans. Also love the aem intake hose.
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Thanks for watching, here's a full parts list: Catch Can (2 needed): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XK9PTP7/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06XK9PTP7&linkId=c05f74427892e3f588afac517e1b605e
APS Billet Lower Grill: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07819M8SV/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07819M8SV&linkId=aca6c631f68f1482156d41fa1dbd4a70
AEM DryFlow Air Filter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OKXNFE/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B006OKXNFE&linkId=1f0389d69717aa4dfc989895e1025695
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2011 is when Ford finally got serious about it's engine technology.
Are you sure the catch cans are the same? In your video there is the silver button looking part but on the Amazon listing it's nowhere to be found.
@iAmJohn2004 The silver button is a different model that has an optional breather valve that he doesn't have installed. The silver button is just a cap for where the breather valve would go. I tried to link the model that he used but I guess he deleted my comment? I don't know 🤷.
I bought an engineered kit from Mishimoto for my 2016 2.7 ecoboost and put almost 200k miles on the truck with it. Best investment ever. I installed the catchcan at about 25k miles. And cleaned the throttle body and all three MAP sensors. I checked those another 2 times i owned the truck and they were clean. So absolutely worth ot on the ecoboost. Never once had an issue wirh that truck increadibly reliable. All basic maint. On the 200k miles i had it.
Just stumbled on this video. I have an F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost as well and love it. Agree wholeheartedly on the oil changes. I do mine every 5000 miles max. I also highly recommend adding MotorKote to your oil. I'm usually bot one for additives and snake oils but this is a good one that actually does what it says it does. Those turbos spin at 170000 RPM at highway speeds and generate a lot of heat. Those little micro ports can get clogged and no oil = kerploded turbo. It also does a lot to prevent that cam phaser rattle that these are known for. Also, after driving and parking your truck, let it idle for about 5 minutes before shutdown. It allows the turbos to cool properly and prevent premature failure. I learned that from our mechanic that maintains our fleet of ambulances that have turbo diesels.
The turbos in the ecoboost are also watercooled with a pump that runs after shutoff so unless you're running the engine super hard you shouldn't need to idle it, but it never hurts to err on the side of caution after a big drive.
I use the Motorkote Hyperlubricant engine treatment. Watch the demos and read the reviews. It's the only oil additive that actually does what it says it does.
I just purchased a use 2013 F150 ecoboss turbo .. I am new in this type of pickup truck.
I 2nd the coolent pumping after vehicle is shut off, but I still let it idle for a good 30 seconds to let everything get back to operational temperature.....
Coolant pump applies to the 2.3li ecoboost as well?
Thank you for making this video, I just bought my first Ecoboost F-150 with 50,000 miles appreciate all of the tips!
is this truck similar to chevy 2.7 turbomax 2021?
I just purchased a 2015 F-150 Platinum truck with the 3.5 L. It scares the crap out of me because it's so Hi-Tech. Thanks for the video. I need to learn more about this truck.
How is your truck holding up
I just ordered two catch cans I was going to put one on,until I watched your video. I was wondering why nobody mentioned anything about the left side of engine .Thanks a lot for the info.I just subscribed.I’ll be seeing you again.....
Can you add more pics on how you mounted the catch cans and routing the hoses? Thanks! Enjoyed the video.
Good video. This helped me with installing dual catch cans on our 2015 Expedition 3.5L Ecoboost. It took me longer to make the bracket to mount them on the firewall than it did to install the catch cans and hoses. Thanks.
I just bought an '18 F150 with 160k miles. Runs perfect, completely stock. Truck literally looks like a 20k mile truck. Previous owner def took care of it. Had full records and was Ford certified which means all oil changes were done on time and at an authorized dealer.
It feels like a new truck, smells and looks like a new truck. Pulls everything I need it to. But I haven't did the mods yet, which I do plan to do.
The first thing I did was put a soft tonneau cover on, which now everything stays dry in the bed. Also installed a 2nd row seat tray, which holds all my straps, fire extinguisher, and junk under the back seat. Installed husky liners which def keep the dirt off the carpet.
Also installed a 3/4" hose on the evaporator drain pipe, passenger side firewall behind the wheel well liner, to prevent the common leak problem which hasn't appeared yet. I'm thinking about installing a programmer to remove the top speed limiter, and gain a little more power, lol. Not that it needs it, but why not...
I am about to get a '17, what issue is there with the evaporator drain pipe? I haven't heard anything about that before....Thank You for the info...
@trentonharris5521
Where the condensate drain goes through the firewall it's poorly executed such that it's easy for the condensate to dribble back into and under the foam seal and under your passenger firewall/floor carpet. I had to do some serious remediation on mine since I have Husky mats and didn't discover it until I removed that one for a deep cleaning. They sell an overpriced elbow to fit over the drain and route the condensate clear of the wicking seal. Easy to find YT vids and accounts in forums with helpful details/mods to insure success. Would've cost Ford 29 cents to do it right.
I just installed this catch can setup and it works great. There is a sensor on the driver’s side PCV tube. It needs be installed on the hose coming off of the turbo pipe, not the valve cover or you will get an engine light.
Great advice. I just purchased a 2012 f150 fx4 3.5 turbo and will get the catch can you covered in this video asap. stay safe
Nice! I have 13 fx4, I still love those years body style
In very cold winters, condensate in the catch can lines will freeze - unless you mount the cans so that gravity drains it into the can when you shut down the engine. My 2012 F150 (3.5L) had this trouble and oil (>1 quart) blew past a valve cover gasket. The oil leak stopped once the ice in the line melted & the crankcase pressure normalized. You southern boys won't have this problem, of course.
nh plates means it gets cold here to bud!
Had the exact same thing happen to my 2012 3.5 in the winter. Needed a new valve cover gasket. Our winters get cold enough that I will have to take the cans off for the season and replace it with the OEM hard line. Kind of defeats the purpose of the catch can setup for that part of the year, but can’t keep blowing gaskets. I am hoping that all that water condensate that forms in the winter might actually have a bit of a cleaning effect . In the summer the cans catch oil/ unburnt fuel. In the winter the amount it catches quadruples but I it seems to be 80% water.
@@justaguyinagaragewithasign3244 do you have problems in winter
I'm in the north too. If the can is located lower down and lines are ran so there are no low points and gravity will work, are there any issues that could impact gasket?
@@johannesgrimm9911 I also gave up completely on the catch cans in the winter. Some guys are drilling a small hole at the low point of the intercooler (it acts like a big catch can anyway). But, then you got that crap draining all over the place - not being captured in a can. The slight loss of boost in not significant, they say.
A demonstration on how you made the bracket would have been neat
Yes!!
Just took some 18 gauge steel and bent over the top edge to make a lip. Screwed the cans into the long part and hung the lip from the factory battery tray. Super simple.
@@Trialnerror do those can lids where the inlet/outlet connections tap into have some sort of condensation screen involved? I have the JLT passngr can system since 15k miles, but wld like to put the drvrs on now at 33k, but if there isnt a screen those things arent performing to full potential vs the pricey ones, or possibly doing anything at all. Im not ragging on it, im 100% all for dealing with this concern on my '16 2.7l EB
@@Mike_Jones68 I bought the same catch cans (Same design anyway: Evil Energy w/o breather). They have a nice compartment on the "input" side that you can put steel wool into. I paid $19 each for two of them, and they are really good quality. The fittings and hoses are "meh" but easily replaced with quality parts and it is much cheaper than "brand name" catch cans. Very happy with mine so far.
@@TrialnerrorI’m curious about something. I did the same thing on my 2017 2.7L Ecoboost. About a week after installing my trick started making a high pitched whining noise. Couldn’t figure it out so I ended up at the dealer. They told me I was not supposed to put one on the driver’s side. I removed it and reinstalled the hoses that came on the truck. Noise eliminated. How have you not had the same issue?
I have 293,456 miles on my 2011 f150 lariat 3.5 and other than the K&N drop in air filter, MSD coils and 4” MBRP exhaust the engine is bone stock and I tow large 25’-35’ yachts with it every week and this thing still has a TON of power, no catch cans, no tune.
That's crazy awesome. I can't believe the amount of hard mileage you racked up. Anything else would have been dead twice over.
Your gas milage is prob bad after all those miles. Mines also has the same milage and only.get 16-17 mpg on the highway
@@TheThecharliejolly I’ve always gotten 15-17 in town and sometimes 17-19 on the freeway since I bought it, hasn’t changed much.
KN is a joke
@@kenj.8897 KN? The air filter?
Subscribed to the channel! I love my '18 2.7 Babyboost, that I got in Dec.' 21, with 83,000 miles on the clock.
I don't know what you do for a living, but I wish FoMoCo would pick you up as a common sense engineer! Great tips, thanks from a Texas fan.
Still running strong??
I just got a 3.5 ecoboost the exact way your introduction stated lol. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Congrats! Enjoy the new ride man. They are fantastic trucks.
They put the tag over the cooler to cut down on condensation getting in the system. Now they use shutter vents. The water in the system was causing plug problems. 2018 and newer use dual injection to help clean the valves and performance. Separators are a nice thing to have should've come from the factory with it.
That's really good information. Mine has the shutters and I disconnected them. My turbo knowledge comes from the aftermarket so I was thinking; "more air, more better". I had ASSumed the shutters were for mileage/EPA issues. I'll be plugging them back in now! Thanks again Pat for the great info!
They started the newer (revised) block in 2017...dual injection, revamped oil circulation in the block and heads, dual cam chains
I bought a used 2012 f150 about 5 years ago. I got a scorching good deal. It had a few items of neglect. sticky valves was one of the issues. I solved that and have no issues. I read about catch cans and opted to generate something Simler for NO cost. It is called a weep hole in the inner cooler. I leave it unplugged for the bypass gunk to drain. The weep hole serves as a port of entry for intake cleaning. It cleans the residue from the remining bypass gunk from the valve stems without messing with the downstream sensors.
Drilling into the intercooler? Wouldn't that cause a boost leak?
@@chiingythao570 not if it is small. Mine is a tight fit for a straw from an injector cleaner. If you are still worried use a small screw to plug it. Just drain it often
Every time you said blow by after the initial punch line had me cracking up 🤣
Hilarious bro. And that is my exact truck. Have had it five years without a single problem. Love it and recommend it. Used or new.
What’s hilarious??
@@poopstain5216 Have you seen my face?
Trial N' ERROR WHAT THE FUCK
Can you explain more about the bracket you used to attach the catch cans, the size and how you attached it?
No response huh?
@@george5697 I responded to half a dozen of the same question in these comments already. At a certain point I need to manage my time.
I've got an 11 3.5 eco platinum with 293,756 and no catch can... yet. But I change oil ever 5,000 and drive it like an old man 50 miles every day. Thanks for showing this mod can be done cheaply. I've got 2 in my cart now.
I bought one same oil was changed every 3000 miles since runs great 👍 at similar milage .
Thanks for the tip on the OE ends would have never thought to use them 👍
Damn that's a beautiful truck...I can see why you would be lured into purchasing it driving past the lot! Just gorgeous.
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Does 2011 Ecoboost F-150 have auxiliary gear
Good point on not blocking the space on front grill with a license plate. I would rather use 1”-2” spaces, though, but keep the plates on its place.
Thanks for posting this!! Just finished mine today and used your video as reference. Keep em coming!!
I have 100k on my king ranch already, only have changed the cam shaft rear seal and the check valve and solenoid valve other than that its been regular maintenance. Runs like new.
Thanks for the video
I was that guy too.. I never would buy or had purchased a new truck or car, worse financial decision ever. Then COVID hit and right now USED trucks are selling for over MSRP and if you can find the right dealer you can pick up a brand new truck at MSRP. I just picked up a 2021 F150 XLT FX4 brand new because it was at MSRP vs the older trucks selling at over MSRP. Granted MSRP of a 2018 is still lower then MSRP of a 2021 but the difference between a low mileage used F150 and a new F150 actually justified buying one new.
This is very true. About 3 months ago, just for fun I got a trade in quote for the truck in this video...it was $41,000....I paid $33,000 for it almost a ear earlier (I still have it, love it). Market has gone insane.
Would like to see a long term comparison of the valves with and without a catch can setup and how much differece in performance and mileage it makes. 218,000 on my 2013 3.5 ecoboost , rough idle on startup, but fine after about 1 minute.
Oh so that's why the car shakes at startup while cold especially?? Rough idling from carbon?!
@@DominiAeternum That is my guess.
@@mevmevmev I've heard even newer ecoboost's suffer from this, & dealer shops tell owners it's just normal for these
They say it is normal for gdi to run ia little rough on cold start up.my car only has 22k its a 4cyl turbo gdi and has done this since new@@DominiAeternum
@@johnmitchell8925 good to know. Thanks!
What’s the mounting situation?
Yes..buying an unplanned 2013 F150 EcoBoost is what I did also as I past a Ford Dealership and the sticker price and truck caught my eye. Of course I had to buy a small economy car to go with it.
You could have mounted the front license plate on the FORD bracket that replaces the left bumper pad...see earlier model w/turbo...MY '11 - '14.
So how did you mount the snazzy red dual catch-can array pleez?
Thnx!
Can't do that on a Platinum as it blocks the radar. For the dual catch can mounts, I literally just screwed a piece of metal into the battery tray.
@@Trialnerror I have a Platinum...that's where the plate brkt. is mounted..left of center...factory mntnd.
@@SpicyRok7482 Do you have the radar option because that would certainly cause a problem.
@@Trialnerror I don't know nuthin' 'bout no RADAR.
If you mean Active Cruise Control, then no, my truck is MY2013.
I am unsure how FORD's Cruise sys operates.
My INFINITI has the Active & utilizes LIDAR.
@@SpicyRok7482 LOL, Yep that's it. The adaptive cruise uses a radar module behind that plastic area. Metal in front would block it.
That open in the bumper. Makes a great step to be used to get in the engine bay or cleaning the center part of the hood
You can add a bull bar and just step on that as well
About the plate location.... on previous gen 3.5's it was mounted on one of the bumper pads. However, there was an issue with the intercooler cooling the air TOO much. If I recall, this sometimes resulted in excess condensation buildup which led to water vapour entering the combustion chamber and reducing engine performance.
Ford's fix for this was to install a plastic shroud that partially covers the intercooler! I'm not sure if that shroud is still present in later models but I could totally believe that they would relocate the plate back to center to act as a shroud. This would save them money on two fronts.
Question did you uses a one way flow valve or is it necessary?
The catch cans are definitely needed on the 1st Gen motors but are not really needed on the 2nd Generation Ecoboost motors because they have port injection as well as direct injection. The port injection helps to keep the intake valves cleaner which was the main issue with the 1st Generation motors.
What years are the first gens? I have a 2016 f150
@@dre7018 It depends on which motor and what vehicle it's in but yours should be a 1st gen motor.
@@damon20r 3.5l sir. So i should most definitely get the catch cans?
@@dre7018 I would.
@@damon20r ty sir.
Question. Do you empty the catch cans? How? And when do you empty them?
Yes, at each oil change I empty them both into the container for my used oil.
how did you mount the catch cans
Did you use a check valve to limit flow in one direction?
Yes, I kept the factory check valve in place.
6:44 You say you used 1/2 in vacuum tubing but the gas can only comes with .24, .39, and .31 fittings. Did you have to also get the correct size fittings separately because you used a much larger hose that was originally supplied?
About buying new....I purchased a brand new 2019 F150 Lariat 502a package with moon roof FX4 in the 4th quarter of the year, got it at 0.99% Ford financed, they gave a new set of Winter tires with Ford Alloy wheel (not ugly steel rims) and Ford Tonneau Cover 50% off, with new Weather Teck mats for Free. Now coming to the point, I shopped a lot before buyin for used F150 Lariat or Platinum and none, I mean none I found which actually beat the price Ford offered for a new one...the Used price with finance monthly premium was either same as what Ford offered for a new or in some cases more..I even tried 4 years old models, no luck, so why bother buying used, I ended up buying a brand spanking new F150 loaded Lariat with all free goodies, Loving it (for family personal use).
Wow, that's a good deal! You're right, especially right now the used pricing for full size trucks is flat out insane. Carvana is offering me $10k more than what I paid for this truck. World's gone nutty.
Great video I have a 12 F150 3.5 EchoBoost. I don't drive it often because of all the problems others have had with. My advisor is a friend thats service manager at the local Ford dealership but my tips come fron RUclips.
How many feet of hose did you need to get?
More videos on the f150 please, paint correction polish wax. That's a gorgeous truck
I just bought a 3.5 Eco with 48k on it. I like the truck A LOT so far but I'm nervous. Always been a preventive maintenance guy (I guess that's the US Army in me) but if something goes wrong I hope it does before the warranty is up.
I very much agree!
I refuse to buy new stuff. Some sucker out there will drop a pretty penny for new stuff and then I swoop in on Facebook marketplace and lowball em and it usually works.
Surfboards. Foil gear. Cars. Hell, even my dog.
Great video… only a 1,000 miles per year? My 2015 3.5 is almost to 300k miles. No catch can and all oil changes were 10k intervals. Maybe half million miles if I wouldve installed a catch can.
I really like how you take care of your truck. The license plate mount sucks though. You need the off center mount.
What year is your truck?
Exactly what yr is your truck
Did your boost side have a sensor? How did you bypass that or how did you connect your hose to it? Thank you
Should I be doing this on my ford transit van RV with the eco boost ?
For sure (if you can of course).
Which catch can did you buy?
Buy them used and save $$ and enjoy blow by & blow bye. you just like to say blow bye 😁. Great catch can set up. This guy knows the value of a dollar
just got a 2014 3.5 ecoboost with 100k miles. Then did research lol. It has had oil changes every 10k but I'm hoping I can do a few things to it, change oil every 5k, and not deeply regret this purchase lol. Prolly doin the catch can first and checking the intake valves for carbon.
I was afraid of the 3.5 ecoboost but am going buy a used one soon if the dealership installs catch cans and new plugs...I wonder if Ford has a kit.
What do you think of using amsoil
Used your instructions, worked great! Thanks! How often do you have to Clean out the Catch Cans?
I just empty them when I change the oil and that seems to work out perfectly.
Thanks for the video! I installed the dual catch can system and the catch can that should have the most material isnt collecting anything??? And my hoses are hooked up properly...
Check to make sure the filter media is in the top section of the can. You should see some watery oil after a couple hundred miles.
Hello again thanks for replying last time but for the past 5months I've been collecting from the drivers side catch can and still nothing from the passenger side... is there something else I can check? Both cans have the same filter and hooked up correctly still not a drop from the passenger side.
How did you mount the catch can bracket? Did that bracket come with the catch can kit? Thx for the video very helpful.
I catch can every vehicle I have... I use a see-thru bowl though, so I can just glance at it while checking the oil. yours looks nicer though =)
Agreed. I'm going to put one on my 17' F150 2.7L and my 14' Honda Odyssey. Great video, tons of value for $50!
What size of hoses did you buy again??
Hi, I just bought a new 2024 Raptor that comes with the 3.5l Ecoboost. It's my first Ecoboost truck and all new to me. Have they done anything to the newer engines to improve or nullify blow by? Should I do the same upgrade now or wait for a certain amount of break in miles before I do so? Thanks
What did you do with the steel wool
You pack it into the little round holder inside the intake side of the can. That's what catches the oil/air mixture and uses gravity to drop it into the can.
What do you think about adding marvel mystery oil to the engine oil to help with engine sludge and to help the cam phasers last longer
Thanks dude! Just picked up a used 2.7 so this was very helpful. New toy to obsess over and learn how to safeguard for the long haul.
Great to hear! Congrats on the new ride!
Hello, first of all, thanks for such a good information for these beautiful trucks, after analyzing what you recommend, it is very valuable for me your answer. What value really adds, adding E3 spark plugs to these vehicles?. Thanks for answering. BR
Do you recommend using the motor craft synthetic blend or can you use mobile one full synthetic with these trucks? Thanks
I use Mobil 1 but any synthetic from a brand you've heard of will be fine.
My ecobost the license plate is on that black piece on the bumper but I do need to put a grill in where the iner cooler is I have been meaning to do that since 2013 when I got it
Sorry if I missed it. What did you use for a mounting bracket?
On the driver side did you leave the crankcase sensor on? I installed the same setup but i got a code for that sensor
Yes, I left everything exactly as it came from stock, just running through the catch can before it returns. Really shouldn't throw any codes unless you have a vacuum leak on the drivers side.
@@Trialnerror nice video. I installed the passenger side months ago and no issues. After one day with drivers side, check engine light came on. I left the sensor and attached the same hose you have to the van after the sensor. Is this how you set yours up? Not sure why I am getting a code. I put the factory hose back on, cleared the code and no issues.
I have the same problem. I bought a new sensor, cleared the code, and about 4 days later it came back on. Any suggestions would be helpful.
How did you mount the catch cans? Looks like you somehow mounted to battery bracket?
I have a 2014 Explorer 3.5 EB. I have a catch can, but not two. Do the transverse mounted 3.5 EB's have the same connections to put a second catch can on?
Yes they sure do!
@@Trialnerror Thanks! I'll take a look at it and figure out the mounting.
Hey- loved your video. I've only ever had F-150's and is my fourth (2016). It has 68000 on it now and I Love it!!! I drove other brands, and they can't compare to these. If you would put up your paint correction videos that would be great. I don't know if you do anything with door ding removal... That would be great too.
Do you have a video or any instructions you can provide on installing the lower intercooler grill? Thanks!
What about the sensor on the boost/driver side?
You need to leave that in place
I just got mine all set up and didn’t get any engine lights which is alway nice. The only thing I’ll be doing differently is putting in a couple one way check valves to prevent blow back or what ever they call it.
Did you add a check valve on the dirty side And did you add the sensor back in on the clean side
Never had an issue with oiled filters... alot of people over oil them in my experience. Good video
Well it depends, if you like fisheye's then the oil is a great choice ;)
@@Trialnerror I'd be more worried about Armor All, and aerosols outside my engine compartment... but then again, I might beat a person if I caught them with either of those in my paint booth. LOL
Did it pop any codes when you put on the cans? I’ve heard the driver side cans can cause codes to constantly pop on.
Nope, only people that have that issue are the ones that remove the check valve on the drivers side. That has to stay in the line.
I have a Lincoln MKS Eco-boost vthe 1st thing I did when I bought it was install the catch can.
Any direct injection engine should have one on it.
If you can, mount the catch cans in front of the radiator so the cooler air aids condensing the vapors.
Is there a way to tell if I have a direct/port injected motor vs direct? I have a 2017 expedition for my wife and want to make sure it lasts
You have direct and port so it's better, but it's not perfect. You would benefit from adding a catch can but it's not as critical a need as it could be.
@@Trialnerror Thanks!! I'll do the catch cans then. I just want this 3.5 to last!
How often do you have to empty out the oil catch can?
Just do it when I do an oil xhange
Are these catch cans emissions compliant?
They don't effect the emissions system at all.
Catch can is great it you are in an area that doesn’t freeze. There is moisture created and it will freeze in he catch can and eventually plug it creating a high pressure build up and could blow out seals like a rear main seal or the weakest link and now you have a oil leak
I live in a place where it is often below freezing and it's never an issue because of the amount of oil that is mixed in to that moisture. I've never had any issues with it freezing and when it's running there's actually heat which would melt any blockage before it had a chance to blow out a seal.
Does this VOID the car warranty? Are you advertising for the company?
Great video. For the drivers side connections, I'm assuming the connection on the crankcase by the oil fill goes to the "in" side on the catch can?
Sorry, just saw this and yes you've got it right!
so glad i found this, i have a 2015 king 3.5 king ranch, runs amazing and its gonna run better thanks to you👍🏼
Are both catch cans the same part number for driver and passenger side?
Can i use 5/16 fuel hose for the catch cans?
You can but make sure they are reinforced so they will not collapse under vacuum.
I have a 2018 Ford Explorer Sport EcoBoost and I’m looking to doing this mod but will it work?
what year is it? in 2018 they started putting in port injection as well
Did you ever have a problem with the check engine light coming on after catch can install?
Some thing happened to me today my check engine light came on. With code p0430. I'm going to put back to stock.
Great video! I will be adding the catch cans just like you did, thanks! I don't believe in anything but paper air filters on turbo engines. You don't need extra flow, it is going to boost to a max pressure(15ish psi in this case) and then dump the rest via the waste gate. I've been through the aftermarket world on my cummins and can tell you with certainty that none of them filter as well as a high quality paper filter. If you or anyone is in dusty conditions I strongly recommend stock paper filters.
As a diesel technician I stand by oem filters are far superior for all stock vehicles and most mild builds
JLT Performance makes fitted catch cans. I have one on our Ford Edge.
In 2017 Ford added port injectors. So they are both direct and port injected which greatly helps clean the oily crap.
What would be the down side of removing the intercooler from 21 3.5 f150. I live in Florida.
High IAT, reduced power, more fuel burned, basically; nothing good. Why do you want to remove it?
@@Trialnerror was just wondering, didn't plan to remove.
What you used to mount the oil cans? It’s a piece of metal?
Love the video. I'm buying a 2013 f150 ecoboost this week and want to add the catch can system. Any way you could do an indepth video on hose routing and mounting cans. Also love the aem intake hose.