I am the original owner of a 2012 F-150 with a 3.5 eco. After the original warranty expired, I have been doing all of my own maintenance with the exception of a timing chain job at 212,000Km. After that job, I added a catch can and have been on full synthetic oil. Vehicle is now at 270,000km and running well (Thanks in a huge way to these videos!!). This video is the first time I have ever heard mention of these turbo filters! It would be awesome Brian, if you could do a video on the turbo filter replacement. I am hoping this is something a decent home mechanic can do.
I just read in the comments on a different video, some people and companies (Subaru) are removing the filters completely thinking dirty oil is better than no oil. Any thoughts?
The 3.5 and 2.7 are good engines. Just like he said every 4-5 thousand mile oil changes will prevent a lot of trouble down the road. I currently have a 2020 F-150 with the 3.5, 50,000 miles later no problems.
Thanks to you and a few others that I watch, I change my oil religiously at 3,000 miles on my EcoBoost. I have a 2016 F150 with 222,000 miles and hope that I can easily make it past 300,000!
@@meeder78 I don’t drive as much as you but oil is cheap… $50 bucks or less plus 30-40min of my time… if I had to do that every 4 weeks that would be ok
Both turbos launched on my 3.5 Transit 250 with about 125,000 miles on it. I relied on the vehicle's maintenance system for oil changes. I researched oils and filters, changed both and never go over 5,000 miles between oil changes. The engine is coming up on 270,000 miles. Thank you for this video. I hope it helps people avoid the grief and expense of turbo issues.
I remember when these engines first showed up, the initial skepticism revolved around longevity concerns. You've shown that a properly maintained twin turbocharged V/6 can last for many miles and be reliable. Thanks for all your videos.
The change to to 5W-20 or 0W-20 industry wide was for the manufactures to meet emission standards. The EPA required that the engines meet requirements so many minutes after starting the engine and the thicker oils created additional fuel burn or increased emissions.
@@thk7513 I run 5W-30 on everything, which is the recommended weight, except my ‘06 Expedition with the 5.4, which suggests 5W-20. I moved up to 5W-30 at the recommendation from these videos. Although, my old Ford 8N tractors still get 10W-40 in summer and 10W-30 in winter
Not that the concerns aren't valid, given that the turbos add another set of components that require regular maintenance that most people won't bother with. Like others have said here, the switch to thinner oils to meet EPA standards doesn't help matters either. Honestly at this point, I don't doubt the manufacturers will soon be intentionally making new engines less reliable to get people to switch to electric.
@@Jacob1986 We have two cars with small turbo engines, neither is maintained "by the book", both cars have maintenance at three times the recommended rate. Oil changes every 3-3.5K miles. No issues with either.
I change my own oil for $30 a pop. That's half a tank of gas. How many tanks of gas do people go through between oil changes? Changing oil frequently is very cheap insurance. I change mine every 3000-4000, and I have the normally aspirated 3.5.
@Major Kong Where are you buying oil? I can't hardly get 5 quarts for less than $30, the Ecoboosts take more than 5 quarts. Then you have to add in the filter cost. Not being critical, just curious. That said, $200/year for 4 oil changes is cheap compared to a new turbo, or a new engine.
This info. is gold! I did not know about the filter screens on the turbo oil feed before this. I'm a 5k, synthetic oil change believer. 138K on my 2018, 2.7 and so far so good.
@@meeder78...or you can buy a new vehicle in 2-5 years or less if you "dog" it out like my buddy....Heck, even a cheap , oversized Go-kart vehicle nowadays is $20,000 and up with no options....
I see this issue all too often as well being a mechanic. People don’t change their oil on time and what I learned over the past recent years is that there are some vehicles that the manufacture recommends an oil change every 8,000 miles. Some even 10,000. Never go beyond 6,000. Aim for 5,000 with a full synthetic oil and decent filter. Most oil filters are rated up to 12,000 with full synthetic but never go that far. If your engine sees a lot of stop and go city miles or high idle hours change your oil sooner. You may think idle hours are easy on the car but actually it’s not good at all. There is less oil pressure going to the top of the cylinder heads and cylinder walls and everywhere else to help clean and avoid buildup from carbon and soot and oil breakdown residue.
I get an oil analysis every time i change my 2.3l Ecoboost on my ranger. The metals are always super low and wear has been great. And beey consistent. Every 2700-3k is the interval i go. I always let the turbo idle down and let fresh oil get to it before i shut it off. All this thanks to you brian. My ranger loves the oil changes and im glad I found you to take care of my Ford
your turbo is getting fresh oil all the time. The thing about idling them, like on a big heavy duty diesel, is to let the turbo-s cool down before shutting them off.
@@oneninerniner3427 right. The pump is giving it fresh oil. The turbos have filters in them for the oil to pass through. If you have old oil in your system (not fresh) it will cake the inside of the filter, turbo and oil lines. That's why it's crucial to let it idle down (even a non diesel ) cause if you shut it off while it's hot, it'll cake more oil on the inside of the turbo. @fordtechmakuloco just did a video on this with a twin turbo V6.
@@champinsoccer9 yeah I seen technalocobrains too. Point being a high quality premium 100% synthetics like AMSOIL are way more resistant to varnish, sludge and turbo coking. Most oil molecules are positively charged & oxygen is negatively charged so they are attracted. I think that's the way it is but it could be the opposite too, I forget. So anyway oxygen starts to break down most oils right away turning them into varnish which is the precursor to sludge. High quality premium synthetics are neutrally charged so they do not attract oxygen. That is a big positive right from the get go for turbos. Not to mention the fact that they take the heat and the cold way better, way more thermally stable. Their film strength and wear protection are all but unparalleled. I speak from personal experience here as a life long mechanic by trade and retired amateur racer with great confidence in the Amsoil.
I went in February to my local ford dealer and I got everything I needed and the man at the counter asked if I really wanted to get into this project I said yes because I have been working on my own stuff for years and I have all the tools except for a 2 post lift so it might of taken me longer than a everyday mechanic but I did it right and saved myself money so I could justify buying some more tools
Dude, I'm on the verge of buying my own lift. I think we need to do it hahahaha Chicks buy themselves shoes and purses and shit all the time, why not treat yourself to a new lift? 🤣
@@terrybrown7771 ...yep....my buddy got one on an online auction from a business that had closed....he paid $1700 for one(and $250 to get it delivered) of the better, higher capacity, asymmetric ones. that makes it SOOOOOO nice to work on whatever you need to
I've been working at a ford dealership in ohio for over two years and your tips have been very helpful and every video I've watched of yours is 100 percent true you know what you are talking about no lies
Geat Video!!! I own a 2019 Ford Edge ST 2.7EB V6. I change my oil at my dealership every 5,000 miles. I never paid any attention to the oil life monitor at all. I was not aware of the inline oil filters on the turbo oiling system. I have 63,000 miles now, but when I get close to 75,000 miles, I will be sure to order new oil supply lines and filters and have them changed !!
Now this video was an eye opener as some who's defiantly a oil change procrastinator this has opened my eyes and I can say for certain I'm no longer an oil change procrastinator I'm now an oil change stickler at 3k to 5k every time with out hesitation. TRUTH 💯 FACTS. Thanks for opening my eyes and I'm sure many many others l I ke me as well.
Excellent video and information. I just got my first EcoBoost ('24 Ranger Raptor 3.0 V6 Twin Turbo) My buddy runs the Roush Yates racing engine shop and told me to be more frequent on the oil changes, early on the first change, and go full synthetic. He educated me that the EcoBoost is hard on oil, but we didn't get this deep into the discussion. Great information and the visual is really helpful.
I have 2015 F150 Ecoboost. I always try to have new synthetic oil before and soon after pulling my travel trailer. I never waited for the oil change notice to come on. Super Tech full synthetic and a new filter. I appreciate your video!!
That engine still went over 200k miles. That is pretty impressive. I know a van driver who put over 400k miles on his 3.5 ecoboost before selling the van. Engine was never opened up and still original turbos. Of course he had perfect maintenance. The 3.5 ecoboost is a good engine if maintained properly.
I have a 2021 Ranger, 2.3 L EB that has oil changes every 5K miles. Driven on over 20 minute trips almost daily. Hour trips weekly. Thought all the bases were covered till this video. Will be checking those screens for sure. THANK YOU!
Have my 2017 F150 3.5 open right now for the second timing/phasers. Dealer did the first one and used the same defective part numbers. After seeing this video I will be checking for these issues too. Love this channel. Thanks for the content.
2018 3.5 second set of phasers being replaced right now. Ford used what parts inventory they had in 2021, part shortage due to the pandemic. Unfortunately most of us received the defective H series instead of the newly designed M series phasers. I had 44,000 miles on the first cam phasers and exactly 88,000 I am replacing those. Grateful I bought an extended warranty, deductible $100.00
I have used Full Synthetic , have even sold it , for 5 years or so in my high mileage vehicles , no turbo though , going the extended miles and then some a few times and never had an issue. Sent in to be checked a couple times and could have spun on new filter and kept on with close to 36,000 on 25,000 oil. From my 2001 Lincoln Town Car , 4.6 V8 300,000. I do all mechanic and maint. Im getting the Trans changed with their brand and everything serviced for its third Vac trip we do in June from Kansas to Montana. Wife runs it 6 days a week to work just over 60 mile round rrip so it helps me not being under it every week. Good product and regular tlc is key. Good video.
Really glad I came across this video. I don't drive my 2018 fusion very far, I don't even make 5k miles in 6 months. But even I was getting nervous when at a little over 4k miles and the change oil light still didn't come on, so I went and got it changed it anyway. So glad I listened to my paranoia because this video proved me right. Gonna change at around every 4k miles now just to be safe. Thanks for the great and super informative video.
Every 3000 miles with synthetic high mileage oil on my 2015 Escape Titanium 2.0 with 132,000 miles...oil is crystal clear at and after oil change. Well worth it IMHO. Snappy little engines that make driving so much fun!
Just had to replace my rear turbo on a 2013 explorer sport w/ 110k miles and it was THouSANDs of dollars 😢. I have leaned SO much about my engine since and wish I had known sooner - one being the dash interval is bs. Thanks for all the great info, I’m now a subscriber!
Sent this video to several people who I've talked with about the importance of a strict 5,000 mile full synthetic oil change interval. Keep it up Brian, your videos are indisputable proof that maintenance makes the difference!
I just bought a 2019 f150 stx with the 2.7 and it has 116k miles. It still runs like new. The previous owner taken it to the dealership every 4k miles. I put a boroscope down intake and everything was clean. Maintenance is everything.
As an owner of a '15 F-150 with the 3.5L EB engine, I want to say thank you for bringing this to our attention. I did the first 80k on my engine at 5K intervals. Since then I have changed over to 4K intervals. I'm at 98K now and will continue to do that. I did not know there were little filter screens for the Turbos so it is something I will put in the back of my head should I ever need to remove them. Can you swap out the screens without taking off the Turbos?
When you go to your oil life reset on the dash menu it gives the option to reset it in 10% increments from 10% all the way to 100%. With my driving style 50% is right at 5000 miles
Great video and advice.Unbelievable how many automakers continue to recommend 10k oil changes on turbocharged engines, and also how many owners follow them ! As a repair Tech with 50+ years in the business I have always recommended regular oil changes and inspections as the key to get the most miles from your vehicle and minimize costs.
@@LightningFast240 The problem is that 10k intervals do not work in the real world. Turbo failure, piston ring failure and premature engine failure is all a real possible result. Small displacement ,hi-output, turbo engines are super fast to break down and burn engine oil. The best way to avoid it is use only the best oil and filter that meets or exceeds manufacture specs and change it at 5k max. Using a 10k interval will get you out of warranty and into trouble and the carmakers do not give a crap after that. They like to recommend 10k so they can advertise a low cost of maintaining the car.
@@Huey4214 well if your driving the car normally and a company like let's say amsoil or mobil advertise a 20k mile oil and filter. That's what It should be, not 5k miles. Then maybe they would be responsible for the oil not withstand common conditions.
Great video, it is amazing how owners will will keep pushing longer oil changes, I don't care what they say I always change my oil on everything 3000 to 3500 miles, it doesn't matter if it full synthetic or synthetic blend, it is much easier to change oil and cheaper than changing a motor out.
So bought a used 2018 f150 2.7 90,000miles from Ford dealer put 5000 miles on it and had oil changed at same dealer they were adamant on 5k oil changes book maintenance interval all wrong! Thanks for the video. I learned a lot.
Brian - I'm like many viewers who know nothing and rely on RUclips to learn about my vehicle and your channel is the best. I happen to have the exact same engine in my 2015 Expedition and can attest to the importance of regular oil changes. I think it is also important to use the Motocraft oil filter but you need to watch out for counterfeits. I would also add that aftermarket parts, including a catch can, are not necessarily beneficial because they also require maintenance. I bought my vehicle with 156,000 miles on it from a dealership and had them do the regular maintenace before taking delivery. They changed the oil with Motocraft synthetic blend oil but did not empty the catch can and they did not change the air filter because it had an aftermarket K&N filter mounted in a non standard filter housing. The vehicle was warm when I took it for a test drive but had been sitting in the cold when I took delivery. I discovered that it had a phaser rattle and reluctantly took delivery because I was assured that it wasn't a problem. I later figured out that the catch can was part of the problem because it was nearly full with milky gunk and needed cleaning. I changed the oil at 3k miles and used a full synthetic oil and a Motocraft filter. I changed it again at 3k and the oil catch can had some oil in but it wasn't nearly as dirty. I changed it again at 3k and the oil in the catch can was even cleaner. The K&N filter is a pain to clean because you have to use a special kit and allow the filter to dry overnight before reinstalling it and I agree with Brian's earlier video that it should be avoided. The good news is that phaser rattle has diminished with every oil change and can be avoided by flood starting the engine until the oil pressure gauge registers OK. It is such a minimal rattle that I only flood start it when it is well below freezing. The bad news is that I've developed an underboost condition and am in need of a timing job, I just turned 170k. Edit update - Just turned 176k and it has been below zero for the past week and no more phaser rattle, no more flood starting. But I did have to have my starter replaced last week. Don't know if it was the flood starting or corrosion from road salt.
Thanks for sharing the 3.5 eco knowledge. I have 2015 expedition and like to do my own work as much as possible trust issues lol. Wish you were my local tech. Thx again. I love your videos.
Great point. My Ford dealership recommended this when I inquired about new turbos. That place had good part techs. 332000km on my 11 ecoboost and have only changed plugs and coils. Driver side turbo hums every once and a while on a cold start but I prime my oil system now if I don't drive it for a week. I pull a 8k lb 5th wheel with it to. My ecoboost doesn't owe me a thing. That truck will get a rebuild when the engine goes. Thanks for the content Bryan. P.s oil changes every 5k since I bought it.
Wow. Thanks so much for this crucial information. I bought my truck used from a dealer and I just changed the oil for the first time based on the cluster reminder.
Another fine, useful,to the point video from FordTechMakuloco. I've been watching your videos for a couple of yrs now & follow your tips religously. Hope my 2014 EcoBoost last many more miles by doing exactly as you specify.Thanks Brian.
I bought a Lincoln mkc the engine went put the first time at just around 32,000 miles unheard of and now I'm doing another engine swap at 87,000 miles. I'm amazed.
Thank you , I really appreciate this video. I have a 2020 F150 with the 2.7L that I bought brand new. My dealer told me that they recommend semi synthetic motor oil and to change it every 10,000 miles. I sad no way , I do my own oil changes and I use full synthetic Mobil1 and I change the oil and filter every 5,000 miles. I am glad to see this video and it reinforces to me that my dealer is an idiot and that I am doing the right thing. 👍
Thanks Brian. Knowledge is power. I have a 2017 Explorer Sport I bought from a dealer last May. Only had 46,000 thousand miles and the body & interior are immaculate. I just hit the 5,000 mile interval last week since I don’t drive that much anymore. I used your recommended Penzoil Ultra Platinum and a Motorcraft filter. I guess I’m going to go to a timed interval since it takes me so long to put the miles on. I also have a 2006 F150 5.4 3v with 270,000 still going strong.
Great great info. I CHANGE OIL EVERY 5000 MILES. DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHEN THE TURBO FILTERS SHOULD BE CHANGED AS REGULAR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE??? Thanks for all your information.
I just replaced my rh exhaust manifold on my 2012 3.5. Replaced my oil line and screen too. Still looked like new, not a spec of oil deposits. 125k miles, synthetic oil, set the oil life monitor to 50 percent.
Always did oil at 3K, kept my engines running well. Such a simple thing can make the difference on the longevity of your vehicle. Thank you for putting out such great content.
My 2018 Raptor had first 3 changes "early"; 3,000, 3,000, and 4,000 miles; at 5,000 there after. At 55,000 I notice first episode of phaser rattle. Dayhem. I was unaware of the screens on the turbo oil lines. Looks like they could do more harm than good since the oil pump should be supplying filtered oil. You are very informative! THANKS!
As unfortunate as it is, this is the exact reason why I will never buy an eco-boost Ford preowned! You just can’t take a chance with how sensitive those turbos are! If I do get an eco-boost, I will get it from brand new as the first owner, so that I know that it will be me taking care of that engine, and the turbos, and not relying on the hope and wish that the previous owner did what they were supposed to do. Too costly.
I have a friend with a 2013 Escape. The turbo waste gate failed at 60,000. I was with her when she bought it new. I told her I would maintain it for her and buy it when she decided to get something new. Well, it was like pulling teeth to get her to bring it over for me to change the oil. Now she wants to get a Subaru because she doesn’t trust American made cars anymore. Yup, it’s Fords fault you go 10,000 miles or more on an oil change and never check the dipstick. Ugh. Maybe the Japanese stuff can hold up to her lack of maintenance. Just needed to vent. I’ll probably still buy it from her and just assume I’ll have to drop a new engine into it.
@@tbone2859 I understand completely! I have been a Ford guy all my life! Right now sitting in my garage is a 2003 mustang GT and a 2012 fusion SEL. I had a 1999 explorer sport sitting in the driveway, but now, in its place, sits a 2018 Honda pilot! Most painful decision I ever made! I had to do it! With a growing family the two door, four seat bachelor truck had to go. Wanted a 2019 or 2020 explorer sport so bad! All I could find were eco-boost TwinTurbo models with anywhere between 40 and 70,000 miles. visited about four Ford dealerships looking for the best price every single one of them wanted between 32 and 37,000! Decided to go with my second choice and the first Honda dealer I visited had a 2018 with 49,000 miles for 28,000. Now that very truck is mine. if you wanna turbo escape, that bad, save the money that you were going to spend on the engine R&R waiting to happen and get yourself a brand new one. You will probably sleep better at night in the long run.
I think a vehicle with verifiable service records, with regular oil changes less than every10k miles would probably be safe to buy used. Lacking that? Pass.
2019 Expedition. I use Mobile 0ne 20,000 mile oil and filter rated and I change every 5K. I also initially send in a sample every 5k to Blackstone until things calm down then every 10K. I'm at 50K and just did oil, transmission, transfer case and rear end. In my opinion there is nothing you can do to promote long life than clean oil.
@@alcocklake I do mine at 3,000. I know is overkill but I buy Kirkland oil when on sale. It costs me less than $30 a change. I have the Fumoto valve. Nice thing to have.
@@junboo8730 Blackstone wont pay what bill? I do it to keep tabs on my engine wear. And it's for resale. It shows I really took care of the vehicle although We'll probably keep this for a long time,
Man, this makes me not want a Ford. I know it's just maintenance, but if you don't have a good mechanic, it's going to cost you big. Excellent video. New sub earned.
Very eye-opening post-mortem analysis! Those turbos choked to dead 😮. I have a company-owned vehicle & is very hard to get approval to change the oil sooner. They try to "save" on maintenance by changing the oil at extended intervals. I don't drive that much so I only change it once a year because I don't even reach the mileage of the oil-change sticker.
Excellent video for all the naysayers about changing your oil at 5000 miles or less. These EcoBoost GDI engines are dirty. If you do mainly around town / city driving, change it even sooner. If you idle a lot, change your oil sooner. Use high quality full synthetic. Don’t be shy to change your oil with only 3500 to 4000 miles. 😊
I’ve got 410,000 on my ecoboost 12 to 15,000 mile intervals but I use Amsoil signature series oil with their 25,000 mile oil filter, no turbo problem no timing chain issues it’s a great oil for a great engine
Yes, I have my oil checked every 3-5k when running Amsoil. I generally have been changing it every 3-4 months depending on the weather more than anything. Winter I can't go as long due to fuel diluted oil, but summer I can go easily 8-10k and probably closer to 15k if I really want.
@@Steve_A71 no doubt, Amsoil Signature Series is no joke, and well worth the cost IMO I also run a catch can, get about 2-3oz of junk every 3k or so during the warm months, a bit more in the winter.
I just started using Amsoil on my 15 f150 3.5. You answered my question because I hear a lot of people say they wouldn’t trust going that many miles for any oil change but I think I’m gonna a go about every 10k. What are y’all’s thought on Amsoil?
I go 7500 miles on a really high quality oil. Every oil change I have the oil tested at a lab and they recommend running the oil longer. I had to replace a valve cover a little bit ago and the heads still looked brand new clean. I feel like if your willing to spend the extra money on good oil then your probably fine.
Ecoboosts GDI tend to get heavy fuel dilution, so the best oil on the planet won’t help that. Any turbo GDI should be changing the oil 5,000 miles or less using high quality full synthetic.
300000 kilometers. Only Amsoil signature series 5-w30. Has had an Amsoil bypass oil 0:02 filtration kit for the last 100000kms. Just had BD diesel manifolds and garret stage 1 turbos and new magnaflow cats and exhaust. As well all new oil and coolant lines hoses and screens done. Shop said slight bearing wear on the turbos but they were clean and same for the screens. Now with summer temps gonna start blending Amsoil 5-30 w 5-50 to get 5-40. And I always do an Amsoil engine flush at service time. And with the dual remote Amsoil bypass kit it uses bigger filters and adds capacity. 2 US gallon for a service
Watching this just scared the sh*t out of me. I'll be changing the oil in my 2.7 EB tonight! I bought my 2017 F-150 with 99,000 miles; who knows what the previous owner did or did not do. Thank you so much, Brian!
The 2.7 is entirely different from the 3.5. Way more reliable. Bought mine with 220k on it. Carfax showed regular service between 4 and 8 thousand miles. It runs very smooth. My neighbor has been a dealer mechanic over 20 years at same shop and said he has never had to tear down a 2.7 but he does several 3.5 every month.
@@darylturcott I appreciate the reply. So far, *knock on wood*, I have had no issues with my 2.7; however, my neighbor, same year 2017, has the 3.5 and has had issues...
thanks again for the detailed information. 👍 just built a new 150 fx4 5.0 at the dealer and its on order . i just hope the new Kevlar belt system holds up! have two 5.0 in 2nd generation mustangs no issues! oil changed every 4 thousand miles. 5w30 penzoil platinum ✨️
I’ve been doing 6k with Amsoil and thought I would be fine since I was doing 90% highway driving (2022 Bronco 2.3). I had even considered letting it go to the full service interval when I drove to Alaska. That said, I’d rather do a couple more oil changes. Oil is cheap.
I am on my 4th 3.5 truck since they came out in 2011. No one had to tell me to change oil much earlier than what is recommended. I have always changed my oil myself at no more than 4000 miles. Actually went back to 3000 miles on last new truck. 2021 model bought before price gouging. Use Mobil 1. Have never had any issue on my trucks.
Ford is criminal for not setting the proper oil change intervals on their clusters. Guess there's a good reason for that ($$). I change my oil every 3000 miles, and my engines have lasted over 300K.
For me, my upgraades - must haves for a 2012 Ecoboost. -Check with the dealer for the ten-year campaign for the trans valve body and brake vacuum pump. Free repairs. Avoids shift issues and the 6 to 1st. Gear shift issue. If not, change the trans valve body with the Solinoid quasi-conductor plate (USE GENUINE). Perform a relearn. Then filter and trans fluid every 40,000. Changing the conductor plate with aftermarket releases Ford from liability and does not totally cure trans issues. -Clean and re-grease with polyurethane bushing grease the rear drive shaft spline. Avoids the 1 to 2-gear parking lot SLAM. Typically shows up after pulling a trailer. You will feel the drive shaft center-bearing vibration prior to this issue. - Gale Banks air box upgrade to draw intake air from the top of the radiator instead of the fender well. -RX catch can for PVC passenger and Driver turbo to valve cover-intake. The $550 set up. After 1,000 highway miles at 80mph ish, I get 12 oz of milkshake on the catch can(s) drain. -Change plugs every 55,000. Regap is an option. -Change oil only every 2,000 and only the Motorcraft filter every 6,000. I am more comfortable with the Motocraft filters bypass valve being accurate. I use Costco Synthetic. - Idle for a little bit, 30 seconds prior to shutdown. It may help turbo oil cooking. -Run premium fuel. Runs much better, and the overall MPG increase covers the added price of fuel. I am at 19.5 hwy on Highway 40 from California to Tennessee. Especially premium in California. This is after 8000 miles of testing. -Remove and clean the MAP (not MAF) every 2000 with contact cleaner. Even though it is a diaphragm-type variable resistance sensor. -Hold the gas pedal to the floor prior to position 3 when starting after overnight sitting. This cuts out the fuel injectors. Crank until you hear the phasers load with oil and change the cam setting. Lift off the gas to start in About 10 seconds. This avoids phaser wear due to the lack of oil. -Rear-end fluid change and wipe at least every 40,000 as well. Looking for advice on the electric vacuum pump issue for the brakes. It could if be failing due to the lack of filtration or an electric motor stall in any internal valving. -Ensure all of your wiring harnesses are fastened away or properly, as much of the wiring is not shielded. At various locations, resistance can change when low and dirty higher voltage impedes. Very smooth idle now. -Caution if you drilled a 1/16 hole at the base of your intercooler discharge, add a small hose with a check valve.
@@FordTechMakuloco did you see project farms test of Pennzoil? He had the blend. Regular synthetic. Platinum and ultra platinum. The regular synthetic out performed the platinum. The oil test showed much lower additives in the platinum vs the regular synthetic. Ultra platinum was premium and performed the best as expected.
Best oil description as to why you can not trust the marketing department of any manufacture and change you oil more often Its amazing that Ford does not list replacement of those components to be replaced at 100 k as preventative maintenance the more. It would be interesting to see screens at 100k.
10 years of quality ecoboost information. I appreciate your video. My truck hasn't been to a mechanic in 8 years thanks to you...
so take it there tomorrow
Brian you should do a video on showing us how to remove and replace those oil screens on the turbos for the 3.5 that would be awesome!
I would love to see one on the 3.0 as well, but I suspect they are similar.
They are non serviceable. Sold as a full piece
I am the original owner of a 2012 F-150 with a 3.5 eco. After the original warranty expired, I have been doing all of my own maintenance with the exception of a timing chain job at 212,000Km. After that job, I added a catch can and have been on full synthetic oil. Vehicle is now at 270,000km and running well (Thanks in a huge way to these videos!!). This video is the first time I have ever heard mention of these turbo filters! It would be awesome Brian, if you could do a video on the turbo filter replacement. I am hoping this is something a decent home mechanic can do.
Yes I agree with a video on a how to, replacing lines and filters
Yes, great video idea!
Timing chain done aroumd 115k kms here. 2011 3.5 fx4
I also have a 2012 3.5 and would love to see a filter replacement as well.
I just read in the comments on a different video, some people and companies (Subaru) are removing the filters completely thinking dirty oil is better than no oil. Any thoughts?
Thanks! Best F-150 information available.
Your channel should be called Ford Technician School. Thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge with the world.
I haven’t owned a Ford in years but continue to watch your channel. I don’t think I’d ever own an Ecoboost.
They aren’t that bad tbh. This one make it 227k miles with just minimal maintenance.
The 3.5 and 2.7 are good engines. Just like he said every 4-5 thousand mile oil changes will prevent a lot of trouble down the road. I currently have a 2020 F-150 with the 3.5, 50,000 miles later no problems.
They're great
Thanks to you and a few others that I watch, I change my oil religiously at 3,000 miles on my EcoBoost. I have a 2016 F150 with 222,000 miles and hope that I can easily make it past 300,000!
Get a Cummins and change the oil every 10,000 miles and get over 500,000 easily.
@@duckwacker8720 yeah just pay out the extra money for other extra maintenance and deal with headaches from the DPF system
How often do you have to change to oil? For me 3000 miles would mean every 3 to 4 weeks.
@@meeder78 I don’t drive as much as you but oil is cheap… $50 bucks or less plus 30-40min of my time… if I had to do that every 4 weeks that would be ok
Nice work hope ya make it 500,000 brother
Both turbos launched on my 3.5 Transit 250 with about 125,000 miles on it. I relied on the vehicle's maintenance system for oil changes.
I researched oils and filters, changed both and never go over 5,000 miles between oil changes. The engine is coming up on 270,000 miles.
Thank you for this video. I hope it helps people avoid the grief and expense of turbo issues.
I changed mine every 5000 religiously I don't care what the computer says or anything else tells me
I remember when these engines first showed up, the initial skepticism revolved around longevity concerns.
You've shown that a properly maintained twin turbocharged V/6 can last for many miles and be reliable.
Thanks for all your videos.
If it was designed and built right in the first place it wouldn't have the issues. Also the change to thinner oil doesn't help.
This sounds like lottery for me
The change to to 5W-20 or 0W-20 industry wide was for the manufactures to meet emission standards. The EPA required that the engines meet requirements so many minutes after starting the engine and the thicker oils created additional fuel burn or increased emissions.
@@thk7513 I run 5W-30 on everything, which is the recommended weight, except my ‘06 Expedition with the 5.4, which suggests 5W-20. I moved up to 5W-30 at the recommendation from these videos.
Although, my old Ford 8N tractors still get 10W-40 in summer and 10W-30 in winter
Not that the concerns aren't valid, given that the turbos add another set of components that require regular maintenance that most people won't bother with. Like others have said here, the switch to thinner oils to meet EPA standards doesn't help matters either. Honestly at this point, I don't doubt the manufacturers will soon be intentionally making new engines less reliable to get people to switch to electric.
I’ve learned so much from your videos, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge on RUclips. It’s appreciated by all of us!
When will people learn that an extra oil change or three per year is way cheaper than any repair.
The issue is Ford recommended service is telling people otherwise. I think its almost better to ignore it.
@@Jacob1986
We have two cars with small turbo engines, neither is maintained "by the book", both cars have maintenance at three times the recommended rate. Oil changes every 3-3.5K miles. No issues with either.
Like the old Fram commercials used to say..."You can pay me now, or you can pay me later ".🤷♂️
I change my own oil for $30 a pop. That's half a tank of gas. How many tanks of gas do people go through between oil changes? Changing oil frequently is very cheap insurance. I change mine every 3000-4000, and I have the normally aspirated 3.5.
@Major Kong Where are you buying oil? I can't hardly get 5 quarts for less than $30, the Ecoboosts take more than 5 quarts. Then you have to add in the filter cost. Not being critical, just curious.
That said, $200/year for 4 oil changes is cheap compared to a new turbo, or a new engine.
This info. is gold! I did not know about the filter screens on the turbo oil feed before this. I'm a 5k, synthetic oil change believer. 138K on my 2018, 2.7 and so far so good.
Every 4k to 5k TOPS I don't go over that
For me that would mean changing the oil every 5 weeks is a chore but if that keeps them alive it's something you have to do.
@@meeder78...or you can buy a new vehicle in 2-5 years or less if you "dog" it out like my buddy....Heck, even a cheap , oversized Go-kart vehicle nowadays is $20,000 and up with no options....
TOPS is a convenience shop chain in Thailand.
I see this issue all too often as well being a mechanic. People don’t change their oil on time and what I learned over the past recent years is that there are some vehicles that the manufacture recommends an oil change every 8,000 miles. Some even 10,000. Never go beyond 6,000. Aim for 5,000 with a full synthetic oil and decent filter. Most oil filters are rated up to 12,000 with full synthetic but never go that far. If your engine sees a lot of stop and go city miles or high idle hours change your oil sooner. You may think idle hours are easy on the car but actually it’s not good at all. There is less oil pressure going to the top of the cylinder heads and cylinder walls and everywhere else to help clean and avoid buildup from carbon and soot and oil breakdown residue.
I get an oil analysis every time i change my 2.3l Ecoboost on my ranger. The metals are always super low and wear has been great. And beey consistent. Every 2700-3k is the interval i go. I always let the turbo idle down and let fresh oil get to it before i shut it off. All this thanks to you brian. My ranger loves the oil changes and im glad I found you to take care of my Ford
your turbo is getting fresh oil all the time. The thing about idling them, like on a big heavy duty diesel, is to let the turbo-s cool down before shutting them off.
@@oneninerniner3427 right. The pump is giving it fresh oil. The turbos have filters in them for the oil to pass through. If you have old oil in your system (not fresh) it will cake the inside of the filter, turbo and oil lines. That's why it's crucial to let it idle down (even a non diesel ) cause if you shut it off while it's hot, it'll cake more oil on the inside of the turbo. @fordtechmakuloco just did a video on this with a twin turbo V6.
@@champinsoccer9 yeah I seen technalocobrains too. Point being a high quality premium 100% synthetics like AMSOIL are way more resistant to varnish, sludge and turbo coking. Most oil molecules are positively charged & oxygen is negatively charged so they are attracted. I think that's the way it is but it could be the opposite too, I forget. So anyway oxygen starts to break down most oils right away turning them into varnish which is the precursor to sludge. High quality premium synthetics are neutrally charged so they do not attract oxygen. That is a big positive right from the get go for turbos. Not to mention the fact that they take the heat and the cold way better, way more thermally stable. Their film strength and wear protection are all but unparalleled. I speak from personal experience here as a life long mechanic by trade and retired amateur racer with great confidence in the Amsoil.
I went in February to my local ford dealer and I got everything I needed and the man at the counter asked if I really wanted to get into this project I said yes because I have been working on my own stuff for years and I have all the tools except for a 2 post lift so it might of taken me longer than a everyday mechanic but I did it right and saved myself money so I could justify buying some more tools
STEALERSHIPS Suck
Go ahead, get that 2 post car lift. They're not that expensive.
Dude, I'm on the verge of buying my own lift. I think we need to do it hahahaha Chicks buy themselves shoes and purses and shit all the time, why not treat yourself to a new lift? 🤣
@@terrybrown7771 ...yep....my buddy got one on an online auction from a business that had closed....he paid $1700 for one(and $250 to get it delivered) of the better, higher capacity, asymmetric ones. that makes it SOOOOOO nice to work on whatever you need to
I love when I “have to” buy new tools to get a job done 😅
Had my oil changed today on 3.5 Eco at 4,000 miles, before leaving on an extended trip. Thanks for the excellent video!
I've been working at a ford dealership in ohio for over two years and your tips have been very helpful and every video I've watched of yours is 100 percent true you know what you are talking about no lies
Geat Video!!! I own a 2019 Ford Edge ST 2.7EB V6. I change my oil at my dealership every 5,000 miles. I never paid any attention to the oil life monitor at all. I was not aware of the inline oil filters on the turbo oiling system. I have 63,000 miles now, but when I get close to 75,000 miles, I will be sure to order new oil supply lines and filters and have them changed !!
Now this video was an eye opener as some who's defiantly a oil change procrastinator this has opened my eyes and I can say for certain I'm no longer an oil change procrastinator I'm now an oil change stickler at 3k to 5k every time with out hesitation. TRUTH 💯 FACTS. Thanks for opening my eyes and I'm sure many many others l I ke me as well.
Excellent video and information. I just got my first EcoBoost ('24 Ranger Raptor 3.0 V6 Twin Turbo) My buddy runs the Roush Yates racing engine shop and told me to be more frequent on the oil changes, early on the first change, and go full synthetic. He educated me that the EcoBoost is hard on oil, but we didn't get this deep into the discussion. Great information and the visual is really helpful.
Oil changes are cheaper than rebuilds. Thank you for all your videos and advice helping keep my 3.5 eco boost on the road and problem free.
I have 2015 F150 Ecoboost. I always try to have new synthetic oil before and soon after pulling my travel trailer. I never waited for the oil change notice to come on. Super Tech full synthetic and a new filter. I appreciate your video!!
That engine still went over 200k miles. That is pretty impressive.
I know a van driver who put over 400k miles on his 3.5 ecoboost before selling the van. Engine was never opened up and still original turbos. Of course he had perfect maintenance.
The 3.5 ecoboost is a good engine if maintained properly.
I agree 100%
200k and it pulled an Expedition, a big heavy pig.
3500 mile oil changes or ALL highway miles 5000????? That's unsurpassed.🎉
Impressive for ECO Junk
This was maintained properly
I have a 2021 Ranger, 2.3 L EB that has oil changes every 5K miles. Driven on over 20 minute trips almost daily. Hour trips weekly. Thought all the bases were covered till this video. Will be checking those screens for sure.
THANK YOU!
Finally, a good explanation on the EcoBoost.
First I have heard about these line screens. Thank you.
I can’t like this video enough. Absolutely excellent advice.
Bravo Sir! Its impossible to over-maintain a machine!
Have my 2017 F150 3.5 open right now for the second timing/phasers. Dealer did the first one and used the same defective part numbers. After seeing this video I will be checking for these issues too. Love this channel. Thanks for the content.
2018 3.5 second set of phasers being replaced right now. Ford used what parts inventory they had in 2021, part shortage due to the pandemic. Unfortunately most of us received the defective H series instead of the newly designed M series phasers. I had 44,000 miles on the first cam phasers and exactly 88,000 I am replacing those. Grateful I bought an extended warranty, deductible $100.00
I have used Full Synthetic , have even sold it , for 5 years or so in my high mileage vehicles , no turbo though , going the extended miles and then some a few times and never had an issue. Sent in to be checked a couple times and could have spun on new filter and kept on with close to 36,000 on 25,000 oil. From my 2001 Lincoln Town Car , 4.6 V8 300,000. I do all mechanic and maint. Im getting the Trans changed with their brand and everything serviced for its third Vac trip we do in June from Kansas to Montana. Wife runs it 6 days a week to work just over 60 mile round rrip so it helps me not being under it every week. Good product and regular tlc is key. Good video.
Really glad I came across this video. I don't drive my 2018 fusion very far, I don't even make 5k miles in 6 months. But even I was getting nervous when at a little over 4k miles and the change oil light still didn't come on, so I went and got it changed it anyway. So glad I listened to my paranoia because this video proved me right. Gonna change at around every 4k miles now just to be safe. Thanks for the great and super informative video.
You will undoubtedly save many engines with this video. Thanks !
Every 3000 miles with synthetic high mileage oil on my 2015 Escape Titanium 2.0 with 132,000 miles...oil is crystal clear at and after oil change. Well worth it IMHO. Snappy little engines that make driving so much fun!
which synthetic high mileage oil do you use?
Love my 2.0. Maintenance is key.
Just had to replace my rear turbo on a 2013 explorer sport w/ 110k miles and it was THouSANDs of dollars 😢. I have leaned SO much about my engine since and wish I had known sooner - one being the dash interval is bs. Thanks for all the great info, I’m now a subscriber!
Sent this video to several people who I've talked with about the importance of a strict 5,000 mile full synthetic oil change interval. Keep it up Brian, your videos are indisputable proof that maintenance makes the difference!
I just bought a 2019 f150 stx with the 2.7 and it has 116k miles. It still runs like new. The previous owner taken it to the dealership every 4k miles. I put a boroscope down intake and everything was clean. Maintenance is everything.
Same specs about a month ago! It got two new turbos put on at 100k (before me) and I’m hoping it will last a long time
As an owner of a '15 F-150 with the 3.5L EB engine, I want to say thank you for bringing this to our attention. I did the first 80k on my engine at 5K intervals. Since then I have changed over to 4K intervals. I'm at 98K now and will continue to do that. I did not know there were little filter screens for the Turbos so it is something I will put in the back of my head should I ever need to remove them. Can you swap out the screens without taking off the Turbos?
This is why i run an amsoil dual remote filter. It's amazing how well that has protected my engine
Do you have some pictures of that setup?
... and a pre-oiler.
I have said a million times trading my wife's 2015 Ford Fusion for a Toyota Camry was the best decision ever!
I got a 5.0 coyote and I still love this video 👍🏻
I always reset my oil change minder to 50% after oil change.
That usually works out to be around 5000 miles.
283000+ on my 11 ecoboost
Ditto !
how do you do that to a Ford? I'm new to the product
I go every 5k on the odometer. Don’t even need a sticker. 5,10,15, about to hit 20. OLM is usually right at 50% when I change it.
@@btw985 Same here but now (since when I hit 80K) I have changed to every 4k so now it's multiples of 4. Still not to hard to figure.
When you go to your oil life reset on the dash menu it gives the option to reset it in 10% increments from 10% all the way to 100%.
With my driving style 50% is right at 5000 miles
Great video and advice.Unbelievable how many automakers continue to recommend 10k oil changes on turbocharged engines, and also how many owners follow them ! As a repair Tech with 50+ years in the business I have always recommended regular oil changes and inspections as the key to get the most miles from your vehicle and minimize costs.
I have a 2020 explorer and I was recommended 10,000 oil changes. Guess what. My turbo blew a few days ago. I’m absolutely sick over it. 😢
If you put a filter that's suppose to last 20k miles what's the problem then?
@@LightningFast240 The problem is that 10k intervals do not work in the real world. Turbo failure, piston ring failure and premature engine failure is all a real possible result. Small displacement ,hi-output, turbo engines are super fast to break down and burn engine oil. The best way to avoid it is use only the best oil and filter that meets or exceeds manufacture specs and change it at 5k max. Using a 10k interval will get you out of warranty and into trouble and the carmakers do not give a crap after that. They like to recommend 10k so they can advertise a low cost of maintaining the car.
@@Huey4214 well if your driving the car normally and a company like let's say amsoil or mobil advertise a 20k mile oil and filter. That's what It should be, not 5k miles. Then maybe they would be responsible for the oil not withstand common conditions.
This is great info. I'm looking at used f150s and looking over maintenance history. I'm glad I know this now.
Great video, it is amazing how owners will will keep pushing longer oil changes, I don't care what they say
I always change my oil on everything 3000 to 3500 miles, it doesn't matter if it full synthetic or synthetic blend,
it is much easier to change oil and cheaper than changing a motor out.
Me too I use oil that they claim can run long service intervals but I still change at 3000 miles
So bought a used 2018 f150 2.7 90,000miles from Ford dealer put 5000 miles on it and had oil changed at same dealer they were adamant on 5k oil changes book maintenance interval all wrong! Thanks for the video. I learned a lot.
Brian - I'm like many viewers who know nothing and rely on RUclips to learn about my vehicle and your channel is the best. I happen to have the exact same engine in my 2015 Expedition and can attest to the importance of regular oil changes. I think it is also important to use the Motocraft oil filter but you need to watch out for counterfeits.
I would also add that aftermarket parts, including a catch can, are not necessarily beneficial because they also require maintenance. I bought my vehicle with 156,000 miles on it from a dealership and had them do the regular maintenace before taking delivery. They changed the oil with Motocraft synthetic blend oil but did not empty the catch can and they did not change the air filter because it had an aftermarket K&N filter mounted in a non standard filter housing. The vehicle was warm when I took it for a test drive but had been sitting in the cold when I took delivery. I discovered that it had a phaser rattle and reluctantly took delivery because I was assured that it wasn't a problem. I later figured out that the catch can was part of the problem because it was nearly full with milky gunk and needed cleaning. I changed the oil at 3k miles and used a full synthetic oil and a Motocraft filter. I changed it again at 3k and the oil catch can had some oil in but it wasn't nearly as dirty. I changed it again at 3k and the oil in the catch can was even cleaner. The K&N filter is a pain to clean because you have to use a special kit and allow the filter to dry overnight before reinstalling it and I agree with Brian's earlier video that it should be avoided.
The good news is that phaser rattle has diminished with every oil change and can be avoided by flood starting the engine until the oil pressure gauge registers OK. It is such a minimal rattle that I only flood start it when it is well below freezing. The bad news is that I've developed an underboost condition and am in need of a timing job, I just turned 170k.
Edit update - Just turned 176k and it has been below zero for the past week and no more phaser rattle, no more flood starting. But I did have to have my starter replaced last week. Don't know if it was the flood starting or corrosion from road salt.
Yeah stay away from kn on that vehicle
Thanks for sharing the 3.5 eco knowledge. I have 2015 expedition and like to do my own work as much as possible trust issues lol. Wish you were my local tech. Thx again. I love your videos.
First gen ecoboost on my 2011 F150 and I've got 287k miles! Religious maintenance and it's treated me well! No major repairs (yet)
Appreciate you, man!
Awesome video. I had no idea about the screens on the turbos - glad I've been changing my oil way ahead of the oil minder.
Great point. My Ford dealership recommended this when I inquired about new turbos. That place had good part techs. 332000km on my 11 ecoboost and have only changed plugs and coils. Driver side turbo hums every once and a while on a cold start but I prime my oil system now if I don't drive it for a week. I pull a 8k lb 5th wheel with it to. My ecoboost doesn't owe me a thing. That truck will get a rebuild when the engine goes. Thanks for the content Bryan. P.s oil changes every 5k since I bought it.
Wow. Thanks so much for this crucial information. I bought my truck used from a dealer and I just changed the oil for the first time based on the cluster reminder.
Sounds like a good old bypass filter would be a great add on for these boosted engines!
Another comment. Man! You're a hero! You make these videos to help people and to inform. You're awesome!
Ford dealer here advises 7500-10000 intervals on my Focus. I stopped going there lol just do it myself now.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep your videos coming please.
Another fine, useful,to the point video from FordTechMakuloco. I've been watching your videos for a couple of yrs now & follow your tips religously. Hope my 2014 EcoBoost last many more miles by doing exactly as you specify.Thanks Brian.
I bought a Lincoln mkc the engine went put the first time at just around 32,000 miles unheard of and now I'm doing another engine swap at 87,000 miles. I'm amazed.
Thank you , I really appreciate this video. I have a 2020 F150 with the 2.7L that I bought brand new. My dealer told me that they recommend semi synthetic motor oil and to change it every 10,000 miles. I sad no way , I do my own oil changes and I use full synthetic Mobil1 and I change the oil and filter every 5,000 miles. I am glad to see this video and it reinforces to me that my dealer is an idiot and that I am doing the right thing. 👍
I also added a J&L oil separator on my truck when it had just a few thousand miles on it. I figured that it can't hurt anything!
Mobil1 ain’t what it used to be. Try out Castrol Edge in the black bottle or Valvoline Extended protection.
@@slscamg And somebody else is going to have a different opinion. So I will stick with my Mobile1.
@@slscamgyou are correct (seen oil test on mobile 1 oil changes. Not as good as the oils you mentioned. Penzoil ultra platinum a good oil also.
Yes I do 5,000 miles or less. I did not know about the filters on the oil lines. Thanks for the information. God’s blessings
Great blog and fantastic presentation, I change my oil every 3k on my ford edge 2ltr diesel eco boost engine 👊🇬🇧
I let mine go kind of long on a few changes... PLEASE SWAP OUT MY TURBO MAN! YOU'RE THE BEST!
Thanks Brian. Knowledge is power. I have a 2017 Explorer Sport I bought from a dealer last May. Only had 46,000 thousand miles and the body & interior are immaculate. I just hit the 5,000 mile interval last week since I don’t drive that much anymore. I used your recommended Penzoil Ultra Platinum and a Motorcraft filter. I guess I’m going to go to a timed interval since it takes me so long to put the miles on. I also have a 2006 F150 5.4 3v with 270,000 still going strong.
Motorcraft filters are a poor filter , horrible efficiency. That's why it's 4bucks
@@kenj.8897 Then why does Brian use and recommend them?
@@steveturner3999 get them at the dealer
@@steveturner3999 nothing wrong with motorcraft filters, they are quality filters
@@jibrilthegreat35 My thoughts exactly. They’re made by Purolator and I’ve never heard anything bad about their filters.
Just got my wife a Bronco 2.7. First oil change at 1k miles and every 3k there on. Thanks for this.
The Bronco is a great looking truck. Congrats! Thank u for buying American. I wish everyone did. 🇺🇲
2.7 is the best engine.
Great great info. I CHANGE OIL EVERY 5000 MILES. DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHEN THE TURBO FILTERS SHOULD BE CHANGED AS REGULAR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE??? Thanks for all your information.
Wow incredible thanks for sharing this with us 3.5 ecoboost new owners!!!!
I just replaced my rh exhaust manifold on my 2012 3.5. Replaced my oil line and screen too. Still looked like new, not a spec of oil deposits. 125k miles, synthetic oil, set the oil life monitor to 50 percent.
Changing my own oil I can look at the dipstick and tell the life of the oil and it’s not 10k miles,great video Brian !
Always did oil at 3K, kept my engines running well. Such a simple thing can make the difference on the longevity of your vehicle. Thank you for putting out such great content.
My 2018 Raptor had first 3 changes "early"; 3,000, 3,000, and 4,000 miles; at 5,000 there after. At 55,000 I notice first episode of phaser rattle. Dayhem. I was unaware of the screens on the turbo oil lines. Looks like they could do more harm than good since the oil pump should be supplying filtered oil. You are very informative! THANKS!
As unfortunate as it is, this is the exact reason why I will never buy an eco-boost Ford preowned! You just can’t take a chance with how sensitive those turbos are! If I do get an eco-boost, I will get it from brand new as the first owner, so that I know that it will be me taking care of that engine, and the turbos, and not relying on the hope and wish that the previous owner did what they were supposed to do. Too costly.
I have a friend with a 2013 Escape. The turbo waste gate failed at 60,000. I was with her when she bought it new. I told her I would maintain it for her and buy it when she decided to get something new. Well, it was like pulling teeth to get her to bring it over for me to change the oil. Now she wants to get a Subaru because she doesn’t trust American made cars anymore. Yup, it’s Fords fault you go 10,000 miles or more on an oil change and never check the dipstick. Ugh. Maybe the Japanese stuff can hold up to her lack of maintenance. Just needed to vent. I’ll probably still buy it from her and just assume I’ll have to drop a new engine into it.
@@tbone2859 I understand completely! I have been a Ford guy all my life! Right now sitting in my garage is a 2003 mustang GT and a 2012 fusion SEL. I had a 1999 explorer sport sitting in the driveway, but now, in its place, sits a 2018 Honda pilot! Most painful decision I ever made! I had to do it! With a growing family the two door, four seat bachelor truck had to go. Wanted a 2019 or 2020 explorer sport so bad! All I could find were eco-boost TwinTurbo models with anywhere between 40 and 70,000 miles. visited about four Ford dealerships looking for the best price every single one of them wanted between 32 and 37,000! Decided to go with my second choice and the first Honda dealer I visited had a 2018 with 49,000 miles for 28,000. Now that very truck is mine. if you wanna turbo escape, that bad, save the money that you were going to spend on the engine R&R waiting to happen and get yourself a brand new one. You will probably sleep better at night in the long run.
@@tbone2859 Don't worry, she will get to know Japanese repair pricing too.
Luckily the guy who owned mine before me had a hand written note taped under the hood that said “full synthetic 5k 3 months!”
I think a vehicle with verifiable service records, with regular oil changes less than every10k miles would probably be safe to buy used. Lacking that? Pass.
My inlaws 2018 F-150 ecoboost had a timing job done at a Ford dealership in Grand Rapids MI, they recommended 4k oil changes.
2019 Expedition. I use Mobile 0ne 20,000 mile oil and filter rated and I change every 5K. I also initially send in a sample every 5k to Blackstone until things calm down then every 10K. I'm at 50K and just did oil, transmission, transfer case and rear end. In my opinion there is nothing you can do to promote long life than clean oil.
Look more info on those 10k miles changes. Blackstone won’t pay you the bill.
@@junboo8730 Do an oil/filter change (yourself) at the 5k miles instead... it's the same price as an oil analysis!
@@alcocklake I do mine at 3,000. I know is overkill but I buy Kirkland oil when on sale. It costs me less than $30 a change. I have the Fumoto valve. Nice thing to have.
@@alcocklake I do everything myself
@@junboo8730 Blackstone wont pay what bill? I do it to keep tabs on my engine wear. And it's for resale. It shows I really took care of the vehicle although We'll probably keep this for a long time,
Man, this makes me not want a Ford. I know it's just maintenance, but if you don't have a good mechanic, it's going to cost you big. Excellent video. New sub earned.
Great information Brian like always. Have a great day and week.
Very eye-opening post-mortem analysis! Those turbos choked to dead 😮. I have a company-owned vehicle & is very hard to get approval to change the oil sooner. They try to "save" on maintenance by changing the oil at extended intervals. I don't drive that much so I only change it once a year because I don't even reach the mileage of the oil-change sticker.
They're leases. Who cares?
Can't say it enough, Cheaper to change the oil , than the motor.
Excellent video for all the naysayers about changing your oil at 5000 miles or less. These EcoBoost GDI engines are dirty. If you do mainly around town / city driving, change it even sooner. If you idle a lot, change your oil sooner. Use high quality full synthetic. Don’t be shy to change your oil with only 3500 to 4000 miles. 😊
If your Ecoboost is tuned I recommend 3k mile oil change interval. The turbo's heat the oil so hot that the viscosity breaks down hella fast
I wish you were nearby. I have an 1100 rpm vibration in my ‘16 f150 3.5EB the dealer could not solve. Nature of the beast they said.
I’ve got 410,000 on my ecoboost 12 to 15,000 mile intervals but I use Amsoil signature series oil with their 25,000 mile oil filter, no turbo problem no timing chain issues it’s a great oil for a great engine
Yes, I have my oil checked every 3-5k when running Amsoil. I generally have been changing it every 3-4 months depending on the weather more than anything. Winter I can't go as long due to fuel diluted oil, but summer I can go easily 8-10k and probably closer to 15k if I really want.
@@puzzleluvr I too get my oil analyzed every 5k, running Amsoil SS 5W30. That is the best way to tell what the oil is doing
@@puzzleluvr Also run a Catch can and I am tuned 93 Octane
@@Steve_A71 no doubt, Amsoil Signature Series is no joke, and well worth the cost IMO
I also run a catch can, get about 2-3oz of junk every 3k or so during the warm months, a bit more in the winter.
I just started using Amsoil on my 15 f150 3.5. You answered my question because I hear a lot of people say they wouldn’t trust going that many miles for any oil change but I think I’m gonna a go about every 10k. What are y’all’s thought on Amsoil?
I go 7500 miles on a really high quality oil. Every oil change I have the oil tested at a lab and they recommend running the oil longer. I had to replace a valve cover a little bit ago and the heads still looked brand new clean. I feel like if your willing to spend the extra money on good oil then your probably fine.
I need to change my valve cover gaskets any tips? Would really help
@@ChappySinclair amsoil
Ecoboosts GDI tend to get heavy fuel dilution, so the best oil on the planet won’t help that. Any turbo GDI should be changing the oil 5,000 miles or less using high quality full synthetic.
Thanks for helping keep us on the road, one knowledge nugget at a time.
Ive been going 10 k between changes with Mobil 1 since new with my 2005 5.4 , now i have 213k miles
that ain't no Ecoboost or direct inject. If you buy a new Ford you better change the oil every 5k or you will be sorry
300000 kilometers. Only Amsoil signature series 5-w30. Has had an Amsoil bypass oil 0:02 filtration kit for the last 100000kms. Just had BD diesel manifolds and garret stage 1 turbos and new magnaflow cats and exhaust. As well all new oil and coolant lines hoses and screens done. Shop said slight bearing wear on the turbos but they were clean and same for the screens. Now with summer temps gonna start blending Amsoil 5-30 w 5-50 to get 5-40. And I always do an Amsoil engine flush at service time. And with the dual remote Amsoil bypass kit it uses bigger filters and adds capacity. 2 US gallon for a service
Brian always gives us sage advice!.. personally, I recommend a catch can in addition to timely oil changes.👍
Wish I saw this video back in 2010 or so when I bought my Ecoboost Flex. Rest in pieces, Flex.
Replacement F-150 w/ 5.0 is getting much love, though.
Excellent teaching video! Thanks
Thank you for information I have a 2015 f150 with 258000 miles on it will be checking turbocharged very soon
Watching this just scared the sh*t out of me. I'll be changing the oil in my 2.7 EB tonight! I bought my 2017 F-150 with 99,000 miles; who knows what the previous owner did or did not do. Thank you so much, Brian!
The 2.7 is entirely different from the 3.5. Way more reliable. Bought mine with 220k on it. Carfax showed regular service between 4 and 8 thousand miles. It runs very smooth. My neighbor has been a dealer mechanic over 20 years at same shop and said he has never had to tear down a 2.7 but he does several 3.5 every month.
@@darylturcott I appreciate the reply. So far, *knock on wood*, I have had no issues with my 2.7; however, my neighbor, same year 2017, has the 3.5 and has had issues...
Hello from Elburn! Thanks for another great video.
Good idea to ask that they show you the old parts . I always insist on getting them to show and not just tell .
That is very good advice, sir. 👍
thanks again for the detailed information. 👍 just built a new 150 fx4 5.0 at the dealer and its on order . i just hope the new Kevlar belt system holds up! have two 5.0 in 2nd generation mustangs no issues! oil changed every 4 thousand miles. 5w30 penzoil platinum ✨️
I’ve been doing 6k with Amsoil and thought I would be fine since I was doing 90% highway driving (2022 Bronco 2.3). I had even considered letting it go to the full service interval when I drove to Alaska.
That said, I’d rather do a couple more oil changes. Oil is cheap.
I am on my 4th 3.5 truck since they came out in 2011. No one had to tell me to change oil much earlier than what is recommended. I have always changed my oil myself at no more than 4000 miles. Actually went back to 3000 miles on last new truck. 2021 model bought before price gouging. Use Mobil 1. Have never had any issue on my trucks.
Try the Valvoline Advanced High Mileage. Recently switched to this and it’s awesome. Much better numbers on lane testing than Mobil 1
Ford is criminal for not setting the proper oil change intervals on their clusters. Guess there's a good reason for that ($$).
I change my oil every 3000 miles, and my engines have lasted over 300K.
All the manufacturers are doing it now.
For me, my upgraades - must haves for a 2012 Ecoboost.
-Check with the dealer for the ten-year campaign for the trans valve body and brake vacuum pump. Free repairs. Avoids shift issues and the 6 to 1st. Gear shift issue. If not, change the trans valve body with the Solinoid quasi-conductor plate (USE GENUINE). Perform a relearn. Then filter and trans fluid every 40,000. Changing the conductor plate with aftermarket releases Ford from liability and does not totally cure trans issues.
-Clean and re-grease with polyurethane bushing grease the rear drive shaft spline. Avoids the 1 to 2-gear parking lot SLAM. Typically shows up after pulling a trailer. You will feel the drive shaft center-bearing vibration prior to this issue.
- Gale Banks air box upgrade to draw intake air from the top of the radiator instead of the fender well.
-RX catch can for PVC passenger and Driver turbo to valve cover-intake. The $550 set up. After 1,000 highway miles at 80mph ish, I get 12 oz of milkshake on the catch can(s) drain.
-Change plugs every 55,000. Regap is an option.
-Change oil only every 2,000 and only the Motorcraft filter every 6,000. I am more comfortable with the Motocraft filters bypass valve being accurate. I use Costco Synthetic.
- Idle for a little bit, 30 seconds prior to shutdown. It may help turbo oil cooking.
-Run premium fuel. Runs much better, and the overall MPG increase covers the added price of fuel. I am at 19.5 hwy on Highway 40 from California to Tennessee. Especially premium in California. This is after 8000 miles of testing.
-Remove and clean the MAP (not MAF) every 2000 with contact cleaner. Even though it is a diaphragm-type variable resistance sensor.
-Hold the gas pedal to the floor prior to position 3 when starting after overnight sitting. This cuts out the fuel injectors. Crank until you hear the phasers load with oil and change the cam setting. Lift off the gas to start in About 10 seconds. This avoids phaser wear due to the lack of oil.
-Rear-end fluid change and wipe at least every 40,000 as well.
Looking for advice on the electric vacuum pump issue for the brakes. It could if be failing due to the lack of filtration or an electric motor stall in any internal valving.
-Ensure all of your wiring harnesses are fastened away or properly, as much of the wiring is not shielded. At various locations, resistance can change when low and dirty higher voltage impedes. Very smooth idle now.
-Caution if you drilled a 1/16 hole at the base of your intercooler discharge, add a small hose with a check valve.
Brian, you mentioned FULL synthetic but Ford uses a blend. Is the blend ok or insist on full synthetic?
Pennzoil platinum every 5k miles and you will never have these problems.
@@FordTechMakuloco did you see project farms test of Pennzoil? He had the blend. Regular synthetic. Platinum and ultra platinum. The regular synthetic out performed the platinum. The oil test showed much lower additives in the platinum vs the regular synthetic. Ultra platinum was premium and performed the best as expected.
Brian, how about the 1.0 3 cylinder with the wet timing belt. Do you recommend full synthetic for them as well?
Best oil description as to why you can not trust the marketing department of any manufacture and change you oil more often Its amazing that Ford does not list replacement of those components to be replaced at 100 k as preventative maintenance the more. It would be interesting to see screens at 100k.
Thanks for the update Brian great video great information . Take care of yourself and family and be Blessed ❤️❤️👍