Staebies seem amazing. But TX sounds just a little better for spacebars, to my ear at least. I wonder if it’s because they can tolerate more misalignment due to a twisting keycap. Staebies seem to rattle a little for spacebars.
for the life of me, my TX stabs for my spacebar are rattley as helllll. I balanced the wire, lubed and did some dielectric grease. I wonder what I screwed up.
Thanks for this! Went eith the durock for my super budget keyboard project. Gm610 eith black jellys, smokey durocks, new key caps and full lube on everything. Maybe some added dampening too under the pcb.
after countless tuning of staebies (including the 1.2mm to 1.6mm washers), I will say TX are better. Staebies are a bit scratchier, which drives me insane from a tuned Durock set. But you'd have to holee mod the Durock, but you can't beat the smoothness of Durock.
would love to see another comparison video featuring cherry, owlabs & c3 screw ins. TX was pretty surprising considering that they are clip in instead of screw in which is traditionally known as the best way to mount stabs, really hope they'll experiment with screw ins in the future
I have no idea why people prefer screw ins to clip ins. I’ve tuned stabs for a long time and have never heard a difference between screw in and clip in.
@@chunkymilk1288 People didn't start recommending screw-ins for the sound; early on in the hobby, we found that clip-in stabilizers had the wire pop out more often when compared to screw-ins. It seems like TX stabilizers don't have that issue as often, though. With the added bonus of easy installation.
@@apuya well that’s quite strange, because screw ins don’t prevent wires from popping out. Maybe the screw ins had a mechanism that prevented popped wires, similar to Everglide/Durocks?
Tx sounds very similiar to cherry which tbh is exactly why I like cherry yes stabs so much there is a pop no others have it'd tight controlled and just nice I still think cherry even has more pop then the tx stabs but both are amazing
I've been struggling with my Durocks and hope an alternative like the Staebies will do the trick. I really would prefer not to have to try something like the holee mod, either.
funnily enough where i'm at, TX is both cheaper and easier to find than durocks, and from this test imo they sound great. definitely getting them for my builds
@@thegarfield6796 Let me rephrase this for the pedantic -- the only type that North American vendors stock is the Nylon variety. Keyboard Treehouse is an Australian vendor in which purchases would include expensive international shipping.
@@thegarfield6796 Well I live on the East Coast and if I wanted to buy a $8 pack of switch films (which could certainly fit in a smaller box/envelope than stabs) it would cost me $15 in shipping. Not sure how I'm wrong again. I also have a hard time believing that a vendor would send a product to you over the Pacific ocean for free.
@@oImagine Yea I'm up at 7 staebies myself actually. And I just ordered 2 sets of nylon v2's. Just got the notification that they just shipped lol. TX stabs are shit. The tolerances between the stem and housing are absolutely shit. You could drive a plane through there.
@@riceoverwife really it's just the space between the stem and housing that make them suck and idk why anyone really raves about them. it will make your spacebar twist back and forth. tx stabs are really easy to put in, but screw-ins aren't hard to put in by comparison either. the space also makes tx stabs tick from time to time, because they're wobbling back and forth. staebies just stay very tight in general. there's not wobble or play there. both the PC and nylon versions are super smooth and almost need 0 lube. the wires on both TX stabs and staebies come bent as hell though. I have several packs of TX stabs currently and despite their packaging, you still need to tune the hell out of them. all in all, TX stabs are easier to get ahold of them staebies, because they're not quite as good. I would put durocks over TX stabs.
The real winner is the one you can actually buy.
That is very true.
Thats pretty much true. The only ones easy available over here are the durocks really.
Staebies seem amazing. But TX sounds just a little better for spacebars, to my ear at least.
I wonder if it’s because they can tolerate more misalignment due to a twisting keycap. Staebies seem to rattle a little for spacebars.
for the life of me, my TX stabs for my spacebar are rattley as helllll. I balanced the wire, lubed and did some dielectric grease. I wonder what I screwed up.
@@gonzoguy2424 Do you know what part is causing the rattle?
@@batmanh8899 the stabilizer wire.
Hmm maybe try holee modding, and then band-aid modding the contact points with the wire and PCB. Look it up if you don't know how.
Thanks for this! Went eith the durock for my super budget keyboard project. Gm610 eith black jellys, smokey durocks, new key caps and full lube on everything. Maybe some added dampening too under the pcb.
after countless tuning of staebies (including the 1.2mm to 1.6mm washers), I will say TX are better. Staebies are a bit scratchier, which drives me insane from a tuned Durock set. But you'd have to holee mod the Durock, but you can't beat the smoothness of Durock.
so in conclusion?
@@EndlessTheCreator in conclusion if u know how to do the holee mod do it on a durocks most smooth
@@Twk1991 thank you
would love to see another comparison video featuring cherry, owlabs & c3 screw ins. TX was pretty surprising considering that they are clip in instead of screw in which is traditionally known as the best way to mount stabs, really hope they'll experiment with screw ins in the future
I have no idea why people prefer screw ins to clip ins. I’ve tuned stabs for a long time and have never heard a difference between screw in and clip in.
@@chunkymilk1288 People didn't start recommending screw-ins for the sound; early on in the hobby, we found that clip-in stabilizers had the wire pop out more often when compared to screw-ins.
It seems like TX stabilizers don't have that issue as often, though. With the added bonus of easy installation.
@@apuya well that’s quite strange, because screw ins don’t prevent wires from popping out. Maybe the screw ins had a mechanism that prevented popped wires, similar to Everglide/Durocks?
Tx sounds very similiar to cherry which tbh is exactly why I like cherry yes stabs so much there is a pop no others have it'd tight controlled and just nice I still think cherry even has more pop then the tx stabs but both are amazing
That TX spacebar sounds sweet. I think durocks are still king because you can actually get them and they are easy to tune.
@@sam-e. weird
Try cherry clip ins
My current keyboard build is qk65 and i'm using staebies v2 they are fantastic no need for holee modded i lubed and tuned them sound so good already
TX stabs, Staebies in that order for me 🙌
I don't know how people can get such precise sounding preferences with such strong background noise.
Its a relative comparison, not absolute sound signatures
I've been struggling with my Durocks and hope an alternative like the Staebies will do the trick. I really would prefer not to have to try something like the holee mod, either.
same
too bad it's like impossible to find staebies in stock
I got staebies and idk if I just suck or mine are shit but- even with a holee mod and balanced stabelizers my staebies rattle and tick like no other.
meanwhile, owlabs over here thinking: "am I a joke to you?"
funnily enough where i'm at, TX is both cheaper and easier to find than durocks, and from this test imo they sound great. definitely getting them for my builds
Thock pop has staebies in stock atm for anyone who wants to buy some
man - these make durocks sound like some shit I can make in my basement hah
staebies are sooooo godly
Just today I bought a pack of durock v2 and the sound of the space bar is absolutely horrible even after lube
Staebies sounds more clean/concise than the other two; tx has more of the “rubber-like” sounds, prob bc it uses diff material.
Remember, Staebies come in nylon as well (not represented in this video) which is the only one NA customers can buy.
@@_fatalruin Wrong. Just bought pc staebies from treehouse, and PC is the only available one now.
@@thegarfield6796 Let me rephrase this for the pedantic -- the only type that North American vendors stock is the Nylon variety. Keyboard Treehouse is an Australian vendor in which purchases would include expensive international shipping.
@@_fatalruin Wrong again. I live in CA and paid no shipping fee for a small order (21.5 dollars). Yes that's right, Free Shipping.
@@thegarfield6796 Well I live on the East Coast and if I wanted to buy a $8 pack of switch films (which could certainly fit in a smaller box/envelope than stabs) it would cost me $15 in shipping. Not sure how I'm wrong again. I also have a hard time believing that a vendor would send a product to you over the Pacific ocean for free.
tx do be the endgame now... from owner of 2 staebies
*lemme get those staebies*
i own 7 ahahaha
@@oImagine Yea I'm up at 7 staebies myself actually. And I just ordered 2 sets of nylon v2's. Just got the notification that they just shipped lol. TX stabs are shit. The tolerances between the stem and housing are absolutely shit. You could drive a plane through there.
@@ThatDudeDeven wow... anything else u found the staebies outperformed the tx at?
@@riceoverwife really it's just the space between the stem and housing that make them suck and idk why anyone really raves about them. it will make your spacebar twist back and forth. tx stabs are really easy to put in, but screw-ins aren't hard to put in by comparison either. the space also makes tx stabs tick from time to time, because they're wobbling back and forth. staebies just stay very tight in general. there's not wobble or play there. both the PC and nylon versions are super smooth and almost need 0 lube. the wires on both TX stabs and staebies come bent as hell though. I have several packs of TX stabs currently and despite their packaging, you still need to tune the hell out of them. all in all, TX stabs are easier to get ahold of them staebies, because they're not quite as good. I would put durocks over TX stabs.
I like the sound of steabies
What did you lube the stabs with?
Lube
Easily TX or durocks for me. Staebies almost goes in the opposite direction of desirable sound for my ears
tx may sound better, but from what I've read, they are not smooth.
durock is better
does anybody know if c3 or staebie stab wires work in tx stab housings?