I think the point of the tapes is that they stop the sound from spreading around the material so the sound just kind of getting muted quicker than without tape, basically like your normal sound is a whole note and the tape makes it a half note if you get what I mean. Great video! I'll surely try this out when my first custom kit comes
I have the same problem, but echo is very metallic (top metallic, bottom plastic). So I'm assuming it won't make switches any quieter? Did you cover PCB, base, or both? What if I fully cover back of PCB, base, and roof?
I haven't seen anyone try the tape mod with the "cotton" athletic tape used by players to wrap up their hands and fingers it is a little thicker than normal cloth tape and gaffers tape and may be a thing worth looking into but great video!
(not in list) painter's - white chocolate/caramel frappuccino gaffer's/cloth - white chocolate frappuccino (not in list) mounting/foam - caramel frappuccino duct - white chocolate mocha masking/pale yellow - caramel mocha packing/clear/sticky - latte electrical - mocha pe foam - coffee-flavored Fiji water none - water Thank you for this video. My favorites are (from your and ConsumerReviewTech video): painter's, gaffer's/cloth, mounting/white foam/double-sided, and duct. What surprised me is packing/clear/sticky and masking together sounded the closest to my ideal 'raining on stones/rocks' sound. Weird.
Thank you very much for this informative video! I'm new in the hobby and this was very helpful! You went above and beyond on this topic and I'm especially thankful you took the time to test combinations.
Electrical Tape is the best for Tape Mod! Painter's masking tape adhesive sucks and will leave a dried mess after some time on your PCB. As well I am not sure the chemical compatibility of the adhesive used. As for normal electrical tape, people tend to buy it from the dollar store which is not the same as Scotch 33+. Those tapes will leave a gooey mess which is a royal pain to remove.
Electrical tape actually damages the keyboard I don't recommend at first it's normal the more you use it you will notice there will be a delay when you press certain keys
@@GOLDAK1ST I'm sorry but that makes no sense. The tape doesn't enter the switch and cause a physical delay, nor can it cause any kind of electrical delay. It's an insulating tape.
- I tried foam tape although I would recommend using a base layer of sticky tape because that will at least allow 2 layers or more if applicable, simply because foam tape is rather thicker than most tapes! - I have also tried using Alien tape (gel/polymer tape) which is the thickest "tape" I have tried while experimenting different tapes for different sounds. I have not found any videos of anyone using Alien tape for keyboard PCB modding, but it definitely works!
As someone who works with Electrical Tape on a regular Basis. DO NOT use this for a longer Period of time. At some point the glue gets super soft and sticks to everthing. It's not a Pleasant feeling on a Cable, so i dont think it will be on a PCB.
I am kind of afraid to do this because I have heard that using tape mod on boards with battery can make it on fire by the time the tape peel off. And some people recommend using 1 layer of masking tape and 1 electrical idk what to do.
I think the electrical tape sounded the best overall, but I would never use it because the adhesive always gets all over everything. I think there would be a lot more of a difference in the sound profiles if the switches were lubed. I don't know if these ones were, but they were loud and scratchy sounding, so I'm just guessing.
If you want to make use of electrical tape, maybe you can try to put in a layer or two of masking tape first, then a layer or two of electrical tape. Avoids the problem of the electrical tape adhesive mess
Fantastic video, i did 4x masking tape 2x duct tape before finding this video on my keyboard and it did wonders. Duct tape on it own seems to be pretty mediocre but it does wonders when combined with masking tape for some reason, im not gonna retape it, since masking/duct tape is luckely my favorite combination out of what you have tested. Keep in mind that the PCB gets THIC! When using so much tape!!! I nearly broke my keyboard by overstuffing the little space left in it with cotton foam after doing my tape mod.
What's the brand of your duct tape? And also you just earned yourself a new subscriber! You explained everything very well! You're underated tbh. I hope you can answer my question😁
Which tape you recommend to use ? I am looking for a tape that won't leave any residue on the PCB. Cause when I do this mod I intent to leave it on. And don't care about it like for years.
Is masking tape really good when it terms of longer use? (I’m new for tape modding) I’ve been researching online that people often say it did or did not leave a sticky residue on the PCB. What is your opinion for this?
It leaves less residue compared to other tapes. Most tapes aren’t designed to be left on for months or years with no residue in mind. High quality masking no tape is a good compromise.
I have modded my redragon 530 pro with painters but it has an battery inside I have made sure to leave enough room but im still worried it might catch fire If i put electrical tape over the painters tape Would that be a better idea to prevent any fire hazards?
When you are doing the sound demos with combos of tape which tapes goes on first? I see there is a order to the way you listed it but I'm not sure if the top or bottom of the list goes onto the PCB first.
The order in the video should be bottom tape first, then the next tape is the one above it. Sort of like the same order you would make a “stack”. Tbh it doesn’t make any difference in sound if they’re stuck properly, safest bet is always masking first in case u need to remove it in the future! :)
i'd done 2 layer of masking,painter,cloth tape under my pcb,and extra 2 layer on certain row to give similar sound profile across all alphabet row..sounds alot but its just barely 1mm+ thicker
Thank you, I did your "personal favorite" combo and it sounds so much better, deeper, marbly.
what sequence did you apply the tapes in? would you still recommend it after 2 years?
sound test timestamps
individual tapes
2:31 - no tape
2:42 - 1 layer of masking
2:52 - 2 layers of masking
3:02 - 3 layers of masking
4:50 - 1 layer of electric
5:00 - 2 layers of electric
4:50 - 3 layers of electric
5:41 - 1 layer of gaffers
5:51 - 2 layers of gaffers
6:01 - 3 layers of gaffers
6:38 - 1 layer of duct
6:48 - 2 layers of duct
6:58 - 3 layers of duct
7:27 - 1 layer of duct
combinations
9:07 - masking 2x / electrical x1
9:17 - masking x3 / cloth x3
9:22 - masking x3 / duct x3
9:27 - sticky x3 / duct x3
9:34 - sticky x3 / electrical x3
9:37 - sticky x3 / cloth x3
9:42 - sticky x3 / masking x3
9:48 - masking x2 / sticky x3 / electrical x1
deepening - sticky tape
premium creaminess - gaffers / masking
marbling - electrical tape
you my sir, are dedicated to this cause
@@scuffed_graphics7262 all thanks to @Andi 🙏
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Wrong time timestamp of 3 layers electrical tape, anyway thank u
big thanks
I think the point of the tapes is that they stop the sound from spreading around the material so the sound just kind of getting muted quicker than without tape, basically like your normal sound is a whole note and the tape makes it a half note if you get what I mean. Great video! I'll surely try this out when my first custom kit comes
Yes that’s right. Have fun modding!
Nice you know whole notes do you learn music
It also adds another layer for sound to travel through. Lower sounds travel through substances more effectively than higher pitched sounds
one layer of cloth tape and the sound changed massively
thank you for doing this tedious test. I've been wondering about this myself.
I did not see the mixing of the tapes coming. Well done.
Damn underrated channel , Love from Malaysia
Super useful, thanks! tried 2x electrical tape with blue switches and it sounds clickily and not echo-y awesome
I have the same problem, but echo is very metallic (top metallic, bottom plastic). So I'm assuming it won't make switches any quieter? Did you cover PCB, base, or both? What if I fully cover back of PCB, base, and roof?
@@WellBeSerious12 I did bottom of PCB and then sheet foam in the case. If you like hearing that click... this is for you (and me)
I used Masking x3 and Packing tape x3, and it worked for my 17.19$ keyboard. Now it turned into a creamy heaven.
I haven't seen anyone try the tape mod with the "cotton" athletic tape used by players to wrap up their hands and fingers it is a little thicker than normal cloth tape and gaffers tape and may be a thing worth looking into but great video!
Great point, yeah I did consider this, but felt it was not viable for most people cause it can cost double or triple.
@@andiyao In the world of custom keebs this price tag is nothing.
Just wondering the same thing, i happened to have elastic sports tape at hand, but haven't try it.
(not in list) painter's - white chocolate/caramel frappuccino
gaffer's/cloth - white chocolate frappuccino
(not in list) mounting/foam - caramel frappuccino
duct - white chocolate mocha
masking/pale yellow - caramel mocha
packing/clear/sticky - latte
electrical - mocha
pe foam - coffee-flavored Fiji water
none - water
Thank you for this video. My favorites are (from your and ConsumerReviewTech video):
painter's, gaffer's/cloth, mounting/white foam/double-sided, and duct. What surprised me is packing/clear/sticky and masking together sounded the closest to my ideal 'raining on stones/rocks' sound. Weird.
Great job done!
It's an interesting topic to get different sound effects based on tape mod.
Thank you very much for this informative video! I'm new in the hobby and this was very helpful! You went above and beyond on this topic and I'm especially thankful you took the time to test combinations.
FINALLY, someone managed to do the tape mod using duct tape
This is the video I need. Thank you so much for this comparisons!
Electrical Tape is the best for Tape Mod!
Painter's masking tape adhesive sucks and will leave a dried mess after some time on your PCB. As well I am not sure the chemical compatibility of the adhesive used.
As for normal electrical tape, people tend to buy it from the dollar store which is not the same as Scotch 33+. Those tapes will leave a gooey mess which is a royal pain to remove.
Electrical tape actually damages the keyboard I don't recommend at first it's normal the more you use it you will notice there will be a delay when you press certain keys
@@GOLDAK1ST I'm sorry but that makes no sense. The tape doesn't enter the switch and cause a physical delay, nor can it cause any kind of electrical delay. It's an insulating tape.
I'm glad that someone did this test, good job!
Masking+Cloth sounds like knuckles popping but without any "cream" which I think is better.
- I tried foam tape although I would recommend using a base layer of sticky tape because that will at least allow 2 layers or more if applicable, simply because foam tape is rather thicker than most tapes!
- I have also tried using Alien tape (gel/polymer tape) which is the thickest "tape" I have tried while experimenting different tapes for different sounds. I have not found any videos of anyone using Alien tape for keyboard PCB modding, but it definitely works!
The amount of dedication to make this video tho. Respect. you earn a sub.
As someone who works with Electrical Tape on a regular Basis. DO NOT use this for a longer Period of time.
At some point the glue gets super soft and sticks to everthing.
It's not a Pleasant feeling on a Cable, so i dont think it will be on a PCB.
Agreed! A layer of masking first is the best bet for now.
Weird, imo the 2 layer in all tape types had a slight hint of metal pingy sound(marble?) while 3 layer just sound muted.
that might just be excuse the screws are a bit loose, that can be fixed by using orings though
@@九头金蛇 dont use orings
God bless you for making this!!!
cloth tape sounds amazing i better cop that
whats the difference between masking tape and painters tape? which one is better to use in modding keyboard?
would you think 3 masking tape and 3 duct tape would sound similar to 3 blue painter's tape and 9 packing tape?
What about Magic tape(easy peel, doesnt leave residue) then put the other tapes?
On my keyboard I did 2 layers of masking tape and 1 layer of sticky tape, it sounds really good and poppy
i might be 1 layer is masking tape since it leaves less residue then foam tape then cloth tape and the outher is electrical tape
So much work in this video wow
I am kind of afraid to do this because I have heard that using tape mod on boards with battery can make it on fire by the time the tape peel off. And some people recommend using 1 layer of masking tape and 1 electrical idk what to do.
I think the electrical tape sounded the best overall, but I would never use it because the adhesive always gets all over everything. I think there would be a lot more of a difference in the sound profiles if the switches were lubed. I don't know if these ones were, but they were loud and scratchy sounding, so I'm just guessing.
Yup these are just holy pandas left intentionally stock for loudness and less deep sound
If you want to make use of electrical tape, maybe you can try to put in a layer or two of masking tape first, then a layer or two of electrical tape. Avoids the problem of the electrical tape adhesive mess
Great thumbnail.
Great video as usual
I feel like tape is the easiest way to spark the sound profile. I am getting tired of the painters tape sound. This video is a great source of ideas.
It absorbs the pcb vibrations
cloth tape made it very deep tbh
For the sticky tape, would you say more layers we're better?
Fantastic video, i did 4x masking tape 2x duct tape before finding this video on my keyboard and it did wonders.
Duct tape on it own seems to be pretty mediocre but it does wonders when combined with masking tape for some reason, im not gonna retape it, since masking/duct tape is luckely my favorite combination out of what you have tested.
Keep in mind that the PCB gets THIC! When using so much tape!!! I nearly broke my keyboard by overstuffing the little space left in it with cotton foam after doing my tape mod.
Nice editing dude
3 layers duct tape best sound!
I liked masking x2 and electrical x1
good video, exactly what i need, thankss
Is FrogTape non conductive? I have some in my garage and wondering if i can use it for my keyboard without frying the pcb.
What brand of electrical tape did you use? Will the Scotch 33+ brand leave a mess on the pcb?
only 592 subs you deserve more
For the cloth tape can I use medical cloth tape?
Watched this all the way through and realized I was on 1.25 speed 🤦♂️. Watched it again on normal speed.
Thanks, I really appreciate you watching it through!
should i tape the bottom of the pcb or should i tape the case, (im using electrical tape and gk61)
What's the brand of your duct tape? And also you just earned yourself a new subscriber! You explained everything very well! You're underated tbh. I hope you can answer my question😁
I think mine is as cheap as I could find. Paint Partner 48x30mm Duct Tape. If you like the sound, I’d probably advice getting better quality tape.
What do u think is the best for making the pitch premium sound like?
I wanted to make my magegee mk box red switch more clacky
try just masking/painters tape!
thanks so much dude!! I like ur channel
could you send me the link of the electrical tape?
Which tape you recommend to use ? I am looking for a tape that won't leave any residue on the PCB. Cause when I do this mod I intent to leave it on. And don't care about it like for years.
Masking Tape first for sure. Then I prefer multiple layers of sticky tape to deepen the sound.
Is masking tape really good when it terms of longer use? (I’m new for tape modding)
I’ve been researching online that people often say it did or did not leave a sticky residue on the PCB. What is your opinion for this?
It leaves less residue compared to other tapes. Most tapes aren’t designed to be left on for months or years with no residue in mind. High quality masking no tape is a good compromise.
I'm going to add a butyl sound dampening mat
Great work!
is it bad to use duct tap (3 layers)?
May I know what key caps are u using and where to get it?
Would you recommend a layer of masking tape than electrical tape?
Yes, generally masking tape is easy and cheap, so it's a go to!
Thanks helped a lot
TY sir👍
Frog tape!
Whats switch do u use? Its lubed?
I have modded my redragon 530 pro with painters but it has an battery inside
I have made sure to leave enough room but im still worried it might catch fire
If i put electrical tape over the painters tape
Would that be a better idea to prevent any fire hazards?
When you are doing the sound demos with combos of tape which tapes goes on first? I see there is a order to the way you listed it but I'm not sure if the top or bottom of the list goes onto the PCB first.
The order in the video should be bottom tape first, then the next tape is the one above it. Sort of like the same order you would make a “stack”. Tbh it doesn’t make any difference in sound if they’re stuck properly, safest bet is always masking first in case u need to remove it in the future! :)
Can you do something like different foam, lube or switches sound test. I would love to see that
Yep, when I get the time to lube some switches.
If u have a battery should u use electric tape to avoid having fire hazards?
yes
which conibnation would you recomend for a deeper sound?
Masking x3, Duct x3
@@andiyao also, which order do you put it in? (if it makes a difference
what do you think is the best combo for a tray mount board (rk61, gk61) planning to tape mod my board, so this would really help! thanks! :)
Multiple layers of masking will do the trick! Also some foam in the case helps remove any hollowness.
do you have any links to the masking tape that you would reccomend, and how many layers?
3-5 layers is ideal. No specific links to masking tape soz, just go for any masking/painters tape from your crafts store 🙂
should i put the masking tape or the electrical tape on first
Masking tape
I might just put like 5 layers of masking tape lol
Is the difference between just masking tape and masking+duct very big?
I personally hear a difference but it is quite minor.
you from australia?
Can you do this with the switches attached?
Yes!
what do you think will give the most pop?
Tough one, cause any sort of tape deadens sound rather than bring it out more. Maybe the electrical/stretchable tapes
I do have electrical and masking tape. With which one should i go??
Both
@@axylotl1878 so wait 1 layer with taping tape and 1 layer with electrical tape. Are you sure
what happens when you put in the whole roll tho 👀
👀💦
yo thanks!
how many layers will you suggest, 2 or 3?
3!
ive tried masking tape and some of the keys dont type on the screen. i need help ASAP
damaged pcb
Hello, um what is the best option for deep and thocky sounds?
Masking tape first then duct tape layers on top, the more layers the deeper the sound.
@@andiyao I see, thank you.
I can’t figure out what electrical tape is good can someone help me
Cloth tape sounds like a horse galloping on cobblestone or some shit. My brain we t somewhere man lol.
I actually thought the same!
where can i buy that cloth tape?
Try your local hardware store!
is tape mod with masking tape flammable?
Be sure any tape you buy is non-conductive!
@@andiyao is masking tape conductive?
@@ryza9791 Nope :)
@@andiyao pogggg
is electric tape flame retardant good?
Fairly, not the cheapest, marbles the sound.
Is gaffer tape sticky?
Yes sticky, but it's built to not leave residue. Also hard to pull off, so I recommend a masking layer first.
@@andiyao ooh ok thx I will try the mod once I got a keyboard that sounds better than my cursed blue switches
i'd done 2 layer of masking,painter,cloth tape under my pcb,and extra 2 layer on certain row to give similar sound profile across all alphabet row..sounds alot but its just barely 1mm+ thicker
ITS really work!!
I got 13 layers of Masking tape mod💀
damn nice video thats some work
why was Jesus on the thumbnail xd
9:22 9:42 9:47
Everyone else ignore this comment this is more me in the future
Masking x3 duck x3
I feel like I just hate everything about this. People who have literally no IT knowledge doing little crafts like this.
shut up
i feel like you havent even seen 1% of the custom keyboard modding community and what lengths they do to make a keyboard sound even a tiny bit better
Please help me someone...
I did the tempest mod with masking tape
And after putting the keyboard together the middle rows RGB failed
9:47
Honestly IMO it sounded better with no tape. All the sound is reflected right in your face.