The force break mod is basically magic

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  • @Xilenda
    @Xilenda 2 года назад +153

    05:16 It wasn't Keybored who first discovered the force break mod. I believe :3ildcat was the first big creator who put masking tape to reduce ping in the AR87, but there could be earlier examples. Regardless, it's still a fantastic mod for any two-piece keyboard, especially for older KR top mounts!

    • @eloreneloreneloreneloreneloren
      @eloreneloreneloreneloreneloren 2 года назад +19

      wildcat is goat in terms of mods, he found a lot of cool things

    • @joshthian
      @joshthian 2 года назад +17

      @@eloreneloreneloreneloreneloren I agree. 3ildcat pioneered keyboard modding and rhinofeed pioneered keyboard typing sound test.

    • @ricey3952
      @ricey3952 2 года назад +12

      @@joshthian and now we got Keybored who helps us understand even more in depth what certain mods do by using science. I love how these guys make such great content for us to learn and understand the mods we may or may not want to use.

  • @MrSkullhead0
    @MrSkullhead0 2 года назад +206

    This is a MUST for the Keychron Q series boards. I am building a couple of boards for coworkers and this drastically changes the board from sounding like a metal baseball bat hitting a ball, to a light pop of the ball from a wooden bat

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +33

      I love keyboard sound analogies

    • @MrSkullhead0
      @MrSkullhead0 2 года назад +4

      @@AndyVNguyen permission granted to use for any review of a pingy cased board in the future 😹

    • @blacksterangel
      @blacksterangel 2 года назад +2

      Even for later Q series? My understanding is the Q1 knob version as well as Q2 and Q3 uses another silicone gasket to separate the top and bottom case.

    • @MrSkullhead0
      @MrSkullhead0 2 года назад +3

      @@blacksterangel yeah I recently built a newer Q1 with the silicone but the silicone sits in little grooves in the board and basically lay flush with the metal, thus not solving the problem of pinging. Just use tape around those silicone points and adjust accordingly :)

    • @littlebumgorf
      @littlebumgorf 2 года назад +2

      I just did this mod with a v2 of the Q1. Two layers of masking tape on the bottom half that didn’t have the silicone. I also took out one of the two foam pieces. It was so easy and it made a massive difference. No metal, more flex, more open sound. Yeah there is silicone but tbh it’s too thin and it really needs that masking tape. Rice cloud did a video on this recently as well.

  • @comic7516
    @comic7516 2 года назад +69

    I was coming into this vid with april fools expectations but left satisied. Thank you for this. (Also, great light bar lightsaber skills)

  • @krisrobitzsch
    @krisrobitzsch Год назад +2

    Sounds the same. If there’s a difference it’s kit getting picked up by the mic

  • @CEngi
    @CEngi 2 года назад +5

    How dare you insult my thocky 500$ keyboard that I tape modded and PE foam modded... How can you call that the same as 50$ GK61????!??!? /s

  • @randybaguinon
    @randybaguinon 11 месяцев назад +5

    I found that Transparent Sticker film (used to print out stickers with transparent background) -- is the best force break mod material so far. -- It is sticky enough to stay in place where you put them... but does not spread out adhesive like an Electrical Tape. In terms of thickness, it's somewhere between Masking Tape and Electrical Tape (in fact, you can choose the thickness of your liking too -- it varies per GSM). Therefore, 1 layer is all you need... The material is great because its "grippy" and has the ability to absorb force -- which is the main goal. In addition, it's more aesthetically pleasing compared to other tapes, because it's transparent - so it's like not there :) hth

  • @arpeykeys
    @arpeykeys 2 года назад +17

    Everytime I watch one of your videos I'm like, he fucking gets it! Joined the hobby about the same time you did, and even bought that durgod hades based on your video. Had a tofu for a while and went through the same thoughts you had about all the mods that have come about in the past 2~ years. Thanks for showing off this mod! Can't wait to try it once my boards ship from their GBs

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      Damn you’re an OG subscriber! The Durgod was a great option at the time for sure.

  • @lutzheinrichs2120
    @lutzheinrichs2120 5 месяцев назад +2

    This improved my QMK Q65 sound considerably. Better thock than ever! Thanks for the video.

  • @AeroPR
    @AeroPR 2 года назад +4

    Can confirm for the Keychron Q1 the force break mod is enough to kill the ping on the case. No need to mess with the internal foam if all you care is killing the bell ring. After this mod all ring is gone when tapping!

  • @tamegaming1768
    @tamegaming1768 2 года назад +6

    Brilliantly explained all the mainstream sound mods! Can't wait to get my FBTKL.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +2

      you're gonna love it. I do want to solder it in (using hot swap right now) because of some of the odd switch orientations. but other than that, it's killer

  • @patrickjeromeobaldo2450
    @patrickjeromeobaldo2450 2 года назад +5

    I did this mod without knowing that it's an actual mod people do. My reason for doing it is so for the gaskets to not get too compressed when the case is screwed back in. However, instead of using layers of tape near the screw holes, I used the spare washers from screw-in stabilizers (much easier if the washers you have are adhesive). Did this mod on a D65 and KBD67 Lite.

    • @rad1ata
      @rad1ata 10 месяцев назад

      how well did it work on your d65? I have one and I'm thinking of doing this mod

  • @sparktite
    @sparktite 8 месяцев назад +1

    I dont really hear the difference. My goal here is to mute my old k70 board as much as possible with what i have on hand. Wondering if maybe clear silicone might work better just to reduce vibrations. Or if id wanna consider trying to fill that air gap with paper tape or foam potentially. Might even wanna just try it as is since i havent seen all my screw locations where this is viable yet if at all. If i do i might wanna try a couple or a few layers of the electrical tape so i can still screw it in snug tho. I dont trust loose screws to do anything right.

  • @PixelKhaos
    @PixelKhaos 2 года назад +3

    Not sure if anyone tried long tape strips along the entire contact point of the case pieces, as in theory that should also help block the resonances that goes through air, rather than just around the screws/contact points.

  • @icyraikkonen2516
    @icyraikkonen2516 2 года назад +3

    I always worry about the tape mod just for the future where the tape disintegrates and i have a sticky gross mess on my pcb. And with my 0 electronics knowledge, for some reason I worry its going to cause some sort of static issue.

    • @MrRuufs
      @MrRuufs 2 года назад

      that's why its masking tape though....low adhesion...less worry for sticky glue

  • @zookie3469
    @zookie3469 2 года назад +3

    I have to agree. I put some electrical tape on my Keychron Q3 by the screw holes and all the case ping went away. Also worked well on my KBDfans D65. No need to add foam or poly fill.

  • @MichaelBertolino
    @MichaelBertolino 2 года назад +4

    I'm more of a fan of the Schwartz Break Mod tbh

  • @zivens.2407
    @zivens.2407 2 года назад +21

    I've been wanting to try this out for quite some time, but so far I love the sound of my boards as they are. I want to keep this in mind for the future, though. Thank you for the thorough explanation of everything all in one place!

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +4

      It’s pretty easy and doesn’t change the sound IMO. Just kind of “fixes” it. If you don’t think your board is hollow - no need to do it

  • @0Metatron
    @0Metatron 2 года назад +6

    This is a really nice idea, instead of tape I used the sticky pad stuff that the KBD pad feet came in and made little dampeners.
    I put them around the screw points on my mode65 and it works really well. Really cleans up the sound and gets rid of a lot of the desk rumble that the mode65 is known for too

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +3

      Nice. I heard you could try removing the screw from spacebar to make that sound cleaner too

    • @0Metatron
      @0Metatron 2 года назад

      @@AndyVNguyen ah ok thanks, I’ll try it

  • @r1z3n30
    @r1z3n30 2 года назад +6

    alternate title: how to make gasket mounts with cases from shitty allu sound great

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +3

      Are we calling tape gasket now? The bar gets lower

  • @jelleyka
    @jelleyka 10 месяцев назад +1

    brow it actually helped
    i didn't know anth about it
    really thx

  • @kobb4467
    @kobb4467 2 года назад +3

    Will this mod make my rk61 thock like your unikorn?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      Yes, but this is not financial advice

  • @Hahnck750i
    @Hahnck750i 2 года назад +3

    The way i explain tempest tape mod is like u are tapping on paper. It has a similar sound signature. Also basically that's what it really does. The force of the switch bottom housing hitting the paper. More apparent on pole bottom out switches.

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster 2 месяца назад

    I have an RK61 and I want it to sound like cracking knuckles (the poppy sound that's right in between clack and thock, but not overly smooth or "creamy"), what mods should I do? I'm okay with it being resonant and loud as long as it's not too high-pitched or pingy. I'm also open to different switches, though I've only had reds and blues on an entire keyboard as well as a random assorted 12-switch tester which made me decide that I don't like tactile switches (at least not browns) because they just feel like a worse linear.
    Click jackets are also pretty bad (I liked my red board so much that when I had to replace my old RK61 with blues and the Havit 89 with reds, I picked an RK61 with reds), but based on the tester I like click bar switches for their tactility, I just think they might be pretty distracting noise-wise. Luckily there ARE muted click bar switches (mute jades) so that could be a route I take, but right now I'm looking for mods under $20 and I already have a few kinds of foam and tape lying around.

  • @madeyourmark
    @madeyourmark 2 года назад +2

    I did this with my GMMK Pro, but instead of using tape, I cut up some of the included super thin poron gaskets.

  • @peep3298
    @peep3298 2 года назад +1

    on my q3 i put electrical tape on the bottom of the pcb in addition to putting tape in the contact area of the gasket mount. There is literally no ping and my alphas sound heavenly

  • @kevj9928
    @kevj9928 6 месяцев назад

    Brilliant! I like how you think. A purist of sorts. I believe hunting down these resonances if the fun part. You are not putting a band aid (no pun intended) on a broken arm 👍🏻..
    You have removed the aluminum resonance sound from the desirable aluminum case. After that the other components and their engineering can shine through. Kudos.

  • @94rang98
    @94rang98 Год назад +1

    I know there's a comment below mentioning keychron Q series keyboard but I cannot emphasize that enough. I myself have Q3 and finally was able to fix the pinging noise after using this mod along with tape mod.
    Thanks for making this vid!

  • @keagan5379
    @keagan5379 2 года назад +2

    Hopefully this will bring an end to the Age of Foam.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +2

      to pave the way for the Rise of Tape?

    • @oatmilk9918
      @oatmilk9918 2 года назад

      @@AndyVNguyen at least this type of mod would be cheaper require a lot less material than the 3+ layers of foam some boards come with.

  • @bjholland8322
    @bjholland8322 2 года назад +1

    i just did this mod on my sange60 any it got rid of basically all of the case hollowness

  • @kevini440
    @kevini440 2 года назад +1

    Nice light-pole skills Andy, I see you are a master of your craft. Did you know that the largest s’more weighs 121.11 kg? That’s sure is a lot of marshmallows and chocolate… How large of a s’more could you make? I know mine would be pretty large!

  • @joer1502
    @joer1502 2 года назад +3

    Force break goes crazy, might have to try on some of my boards :)

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      Best thing that came out of 2021

  • @bhentehquatroh1
    @bhentehquatroh1 2 года назад +3

    Always great content coming from you Andy. Thank you for the informative video once again! Keep em coming our way 🤙🏽🤙🏽

  • @jimmer411
    @jimmer411 21 день назад

    I must be tone deaf. I didn't notice any difference in the sound comparison at the beginning

  • @AT-vj2mz
    @AT-vj2mz Год назад +1

    I wonder about electrical or duct tape

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Год назад +2

      Don’t use duct tape that stuff is way too thick and leaves bad residue

    • @AT-vj2mz
      @AT-vj2mz Год назад

      @@AndyVNguyen good to know, thanks Andy

  • @el1xr
    @el1xr 2 года назад +2

    seeing andy wield a florescent light tube as a lightsaber is peak keeb content

  • @DamnAwesome
    @DamnAwesome 2 года назад +1

    Nice video! It defiantly sounds better, but I don't hear much change lol

  • @keyswitches9269
    @keyswitches9269 2 года назад +2

    I love the intro

  • @ch0o_choo
    @ch0o_choo 2 года назад +1

    i love your intro

  • @CEngi
    @CEngi 2 года назад +2

    Literally magic.

  • @Dood11223
    @Dood11223 2 года назад +1

    Andy you would be the coolest fucking uncle imaginable

  • @joshmarquez3938
    @joshmarquez3938 2 года назад +1

    0:11 would be a great thumbnail

  • @keoo5290
    @keoo5290 2 года назад +1

    Do thesee only helpp for alu or metal boards or does this have any effects for plastic oness

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      Haven’t tried on plastic

  • @gwynvael159
    @gwynvael159 2 года назад +1

    soooo, sat75 and force-break mod good?

    • @ptitty703
      @ptitty703 2 года назад

      I was wondering this as well. I currently have shelf liner in mine but thinking about taking it out and trying this instead. Did you end up trying it?
      Edit: In case anyone is curious, I ended up trying it and it definitely improved the sound

    • @sabrinav
      @sabrinav 2 года назад +1

      @@ptitty703 I will try it when I receive mine next week.

  • @CEngi
    @CEngi 2 года назад +1

    Do you think future keyboards that have metal cases should have a strip of force break mod tape pre applied?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      I have only found that it helps. Some boards don’t need it. But most could benefit from it

  • @realegt
    @realegt 2 года назад

    That's my PE foamed/taped Idobao in the janky picture, lol. I had to do a double take because I thought it looked familiar 😂

  • @AlanDike
    @AlanDike 6 месяцев назад

    wouldn't a .1mm oring or felt or silicon washer around the screw holes also do the same thing?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  6 месяцев назад

      You can stick whatever you want in there. It’s easier to find tape in your house though lol . I’ve found better luck going the full length between screw points as well. Some boards need more help than others.. some can do ok just loosely screwing it together than fully hand tight

  • @op_mang
    @op_mang 2 года назад +1

    So does that make the Jelly on the same level as your gk's and tofus because it has pe foam? Never really understood how people on the "high-end" spectrum of the community turned on the pe foam mod so quickly.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      I explained it. The sound is mostly the same across different boards that use PE foam. So if you care about sound and sound only then yes.

    • @oatmilk9918
      @oatmilk9918 2 года назад

      PE foam drastically changes the sound of a board, and can make them seem more 'lifeless' in a sense that they have no personality or uniquenes; they are just PE foam. of course, as with all things, some people prefer the pe foam sounds, others dont.
      i also think a big part of the pushback was that previous boards didnt need pe foam to sound good. perhaps as the community has grown the definition of 'good' has changed.
      personally, stuffing a board with foam is an extreme waste of material and is not helping to reduce packaging or unrecyclable polymer usage in the hobby, but this forcebreak mod is definitely looking to a very promising alternative
      if you want to hear some boards which sounds great without any foam, check out any tgr jane sound test. a cheaper board to check out would be ncr80, which has a large and open chassis which sounds great without foam, and adding foam would ruin it

    • @op_mang
      @op_mang 2 года назад +1

      @@oatmilk9918 It's just funny how the hobby has gone full circle on foam ever since the pe foam mod got popular. When the Jelly released it seemed like everyone was in love with that type of sound. 90% of high end boards still come with foam. I feel like people felt like they got, for lack of a better word, attacked when pe foam made a bunch of budget boards sound above their price range, and now people don't like foam to be "cool." I know it's all preference, but I'm pretty sure there are people out there that conditioned themselves to not like the "foam sound" because their favorite youtubers said that "foam=ruined sound."

  • @jalexanderc
    @jalexanderc 2 года назад +1

    KFA is definitely poggers, and ty for the in-depth explanation of the force break mod, Andy! Great video :)

  • @coleydotmp4
    @coleydotmp4 2 года назад

    force break mod GOAT'd, up there with tape mod and idk... uh... lubing switches?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      I don't love tape mod but I will admit it's crazy for saving horrible keyboards
      I use factory lubed switches wherever I can these days because I'm lazy lol

    • @coleydotmp4
      @coleydotmp4 2 года назад

      @@AndyVNguyen agree. really want some matcha lattes, ive heard the factory lube is actually solid haha

  • @BillRalens
    @BillRalens Год назад

    i like pressing a key and then the letter appears on my screen.

  • @Beatleman91
    @Beatleman91 Год назад

    is it me or it sounds the same? next time, put the videos next to each out in Vegas, don't put anything inbetween

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Год назад

      what happens in vegas stays in vegas though

  • @morgan3625
    @morgan3625 9 месяцев назад

    I honestly can't tell a difference

  • @wanniesup
    @wanniesup 6 месяцев назад

    God is good thank you for this turorial

  • @kietskeeb
    @kietskeeb 2 года назад +1

    man with the glarses manual zoom haha

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +2

      I'm his #1 fan and he gave me kebob free

  • @happybuggy1582
    @happybuggy1582 Год назад

    Lmao with a membrane that never breaks

  • @Aeolous1
    @Aeolous1 2 года назад +1

    ive been holding off buying a brutalist board cuz of the hollowness but the force break mod is lookin like it could definitely keep the brutalist boards relevant

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      I heard good things about using it on the brutalist boards

  • @steins3699
    @steins3699 Год назад

    can you use band aids for this mod

  • @YurttheSilentChief1
    @YurttheSilentChief1 2 года назад +1

    I'm gonna try this on one of those pin-mount keyboards

  • @kokonut3112
    @kokonut3112 9 месяцев назад

    New to this hobby I've tried both force break and tape mod on my keeb (Monsgeek M1) and indeed this is really magic!
    Suppressed the metallic echo on my space bar. Oh god I love the new sound. Thanks for the video!

  • @EmpressHsiao
    @EmpressHsiao Год назад

    主持人近來的影片都顯得有點發福~~~ 真好

  • @WhosA1Trick
    @WhosA1Trick Год назад +1

    Quality video, I learned quite a bit about mods and their application scenarios. I personally would have to agree with you that I like the idea of having that original unique sound that my keys/switches make and I love that the break mod preserves those qualities while alleviating the distracting sounds of the case. However, I'm still learning so ill be testing all the mods for myself when my kq6 comes in the mail - will let you know how it goes. Do you have any recommendations on some high-quality linears that I wouldn't have to lube up myself? I'm looking for a nice clean sound and stable keys to preserve that premium feel, I was thinking maybe box ink pinks, but I'm unsure how ill feel about their lower profile.

  • @louis_legowerks5538
    @louis_legowerks5538 2 года назад

    I think that keybored as not the first one to do it because :3ildcat did it on the Abko AR87 first

  • @sammuelh.tertjyduk4247
    @sammuelh.tertjyduk4247 Год назад

    I cried when he transitioned to the zoom65 after saying cheap keyboards

  • @avatar-dk3ks
    @avatar-dk3ks 4 месяца назад

    do you recommend doing this alongside the tape mod?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  4 месяца назад

      if the board is a more budget board, sure.
      but tape mod changes the sound of the board a lot so i'd avoid it and JUST do force break on the case itself only if I can

  • @not.a.doctor
    @not.a.doctor 2 года назад

    Ok the shit in the beginning though sounds like shit... Double checked, yup

  • @b3asle551
    @b3asle551 2 года назад

    So I guess if you have an alluminium top case, and polycarb bottom, this mod wouldn't be needed?

  • @RyanSM
    @RyanSM 2 года назад

    I wonder if can do this mod to the Mode65. Wonderful video showcasing and explaining what the force-break mod does!
    On a sidenote, interesting thing KeebsForAll is doing. I hope their Marketplace really pops off.

    • @DJKr1z
      @DJKr1z 2 года назад +1

      I do with my Mode65, but need to cut very little piece.

  • @skatterpro
    @skatterpro Год назад +3

    The mods have the audible characteristics you describe, but for _completely_ different reasons. Tape does not "stop" the sound and turn it back around. Foam does not "bring frequencies to the middle" and you are definitely still affected by the case either way. If any of this was the case, recording studios would be incredibly cheap to build and they would look completely different.

  • @JamesStuber
    @JamesStuber 2 года назад

    guy who tries to force break his bakeneko

  • @t1bbe
    @t1bbe 8 месяцев назад

    Put the tape where? and how much?
    Such a long explenation and then not show how to do it ;P

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  8 месяцев назад

      Lol it’s the end of the video. Electrical tape if you have it, if you’re buying new I suggest this. amzn.to/3DI2nkX . Just apply where there’s metal on metal contact

    • @t1bbe
      @t1bbe 8 месяцев назад

      @@AndyVNguyen Ow now i see, had to pause the video. That frame is in the video for like 3 sec and i was focusing on your hand/pincet about to place them and then it cuts away ;p
      Thanks for the reply

  • @GabenHood
    @GabenHood 2 года назад

    Surprised no-one makes a gasket for alu cases. Not a gummy o-ring gasket, more like an engines rocker cover gasket.

  • @faiz434
    @faiz434 2 года назад

    Is this only effective for boards using metal cases? What about plastic boards?

  • @fossjonc
    @fossjonc 2 года назад +5

    This was good video summarizing the list of keyboard mods and the effects they have - thanks for the content!

  • @BenjaminTrillington
    @BenjaminTrillington Год назад

    I didn't hear a difference over that space bar..

  • @geomon0815
    @geomon0815 Год назад

    Why is your eye so itchy?🤔

  • @kuro0renji
    @kuro0renji 2 года назад

    2:40 I personally think PE foam doesn't make a keyboard sounds better, it makes a keyboard sounds different.

  • @ELWISoooYAKUZA94
    @ELWISoooYAKUZA94 Год назад

    need recommendation for foam combo for my new keychron q8 with lubed alpacas on brass plate . i was thinking remove tape mod , cut custom pe foam between pcb and plate and case foam aswell

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Год назад

      Basically as much foam as possible would be my rec lol

  • @dwalker8262
    @dwalker8262 2 года назад +1

    Would you say this would be good for a frog TKL? I ordered it and might do the force break just cuz

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      That board just had an issue w spacebar imo. Sound was fine. But couldn’t hurt since a lot of ppl did use case foam. Just make sure you try using snap in stabs or something.. since i think the low front height of the board is causing issues w the screw of screw in stabs

    • @dwalker8262
      @dwalker8262 2 года назад +1

      So not screw in stabs? And thanks for responding

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      Either use snap in stabs or use screw in w case foam

    • @dwalker8262
      @dwalker8262 2 года назад

      Alright. Thanks

  • @ArchMage7
    @ArchMage7 2 года назад

    Has anyone tried putting tape on the bottom of the plate?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      it would only help for the top mount screw points. my server has definitely used the force break mod to screw in their brass weights so what you're saying is technically viable

  • @omarpabon5751
    @omarpabon5751 2 года назад +1

    I use the .2mm stab pads from Upgraded Keyboard. It works great with one layer

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      Perfect. Cuz those things suck for holee mod lol. I have a ton of extras

    • @omarpabon5751
      @omarpabon5751 2 года назад

      @@AndyVNguyen lol, yeah I was happy to find a use for them

  • @g00ts
    @g00ts 5 месяцев назад

    Why little pieces?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  5 месяцев назад +1

      Easier to get around standoffs. But I’ve been using easier to tear tamiya tape and just doing full perimeter as of late. amzn.to/3DI2nkX

  • @ChubiPanda
    @ChubiPanda 2 года назад

    But what if I want to talk smack of discord while feeling superior to others? I think I need a $2,500 keyboard for this.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      Easily. With current inflation, might be $2750 min.

  • @cheezymadebreezy269
    @cheezymadebreezy269 2 года назад

    Is force break mod safe with conductive tape?

  • @NerdPsycho
    @NerdPsycho 2 года назад

    Top few mods - PE Foam, Tempest Tape Mod, Kilmat, Force Break

  • @kikiam6119
    @kikiam6119 Год назад

    can i use this for acrylic cases?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Год назад

      Acrylic cases shouldn’t be pinging tho. But technically yeah

  • @jonodiel6440
    @jonodiel6440 Год назад

    When I did the tape mod the ping disappeared, but it made my Q3 Pro loud and poppy. After adding a thicker foam case dampener, it took away the flex of the keyboard.
    I settled for the force break mod. It worked well minimizing the ping (about 95%) of the Q3 Pro without altering its characteristics. I used 2 layers of masking tape as the material. Hoping to remove the remaining 5% ping, I'm waiting for a set of heavy linear switch (KiiBoom Topaz) that will be replacing the Keychron Pro Banana that the keyboard came with. Thank you for this great mod tip!

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Год назад +1

      Long pole will help reduce that last 5%!

    • @jonodiel6440
      @jonodiel6440 Год назад +1

      @@AndyVNguyen Not sure if what I bought has long pole (KiiBoom Topaz), but it has a total travel of 3.20 ± 0.2mm in the specs. I also added a band-aid mod and lubed my stabilizers. So far, I don't hear any pings 🤓. Thank you much and keep up the great work!

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Год назад +1

      yeah 4mm is full travel so that's long pole for sure

  • @Strider1Wilco
    @Strider1Wilco Год назад

    me: uses all mods
    also me: hehe muted keyboard go tiktiktik

  • @jonhsyr
    @jonhsyr 2 года назад

    just some thoughts. What if instead of using electrical tape and leaving residue on keyboard, we could possibly switch it with those stabilizers pads or even the PE pads from kbd fans.
    Of corse i cant yet test it since i still not have it *Sad Face*
    Just some ideas for the People

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      You can use any adhesive I just have electrical tape

  • @SMKeyboards
    @SMKeyboards 2 года назад +1

    Probs not first. But I’m here.

    • @SMKeyboards
      @SMKeyboards 2 года назад +1

      Side note. The KFA market place is cool! It reminds me of Swappa where there is a fee to sell electronic devices.

    • @JacobRosenegger
      @JacobRosenegger 2 года назад

      @@SMKeyboards I had a terrible experience with it and KFA offered zero help for a problem caused on their end. Glad I got my money back via PayPal. I'm sticking to r/mechmarket, but YMMV

    • @SMKeyboards
      @SMKeyboards 2 года назад

      @@JacobRosenegger aww that stinks. Sorry to hear that

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад

      What happened in your scenario?

    • @JacobRosenegger
      @JacobRosenegger 2 года назад

      @@AndyVNguyen KFA said they shipped my keycap set from their warehouse but actually didn't. They blamed it on USPS and told me to take it up with them to get my money back, or I can refuse the package and they'll refund me once they get the item back (which was impossible since it wasn't shipped). USPS never received the item according to the tracking info, just "Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS, USPS Awaiting Item". After waiting a month I filed an item not received case with PayPal, KFA never responded to the request and it was closed in my favor, but the KFA owner tried calling me at 8pm local time from a Boston number to discuss my order, rather than emailing me, which I thought was strange and unprofessional. I talked to others on Reddit who had a similar experience with receiving their orders. The warehouse is/was having issues dispatching orders to the couriers and instead of looking into the problem, KFA just shifted the blame onto USPS and gave me the runaround to get anything resolved. Of course, they were happy to keep my money until PayPal got involved.

  • @vexus1093
    @vexus1093 2 года назад

    hey andy are you getting a qk65? i think you can do this mod on it but im not sure

  • @SynonymArts
    @SynonymArts Год назад

    I just get into the hobbies...and The force break really make the sound more solid, thanks!

  • @makotoshaka
    @makotoshaka 2 года назад

    For the freebird tkl, would this work for the gummy oring mount? Or top mount only?

  • @hornet65
    @hornet65 2 года назад

    So is this something you would do instead of the tape mod, or using foam, or pouring silicone? Or would you do this in addition to some or all of those things?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      i would try this first, if it works you're golden. no other mods needed. then do foam. this + foam is way easier than silicone pour IMO. silicone pour is when something REALLY needs help

  • @aspect0
    @aspect0 2 года назад

    Do "OGs" not like the pe foam in the owlabs boards?

  • @12345678946513
    @12345678946513 2 года назад

    My friend got his first keyboard a couple of weeks ago, and the first thing that I did was to take out the case foam, and then I did force break mod with 2 layers of masking tape. Needless to say….. I’m surprised.

  • @muCephei_
    @muCephei_ Год назад

    It's surprising this mod is quite new considering that it makes a lot of sense.

  • @666Necropsy
    @666Necropsy Год назад

    i liked the explanation of what each mod achieves.

  • @OneRedKraken
    @OneRedKraken 2 года назад

    This is going to be the stupidest question asked here for sure. But I just got a Keychron Q3. And I definitly want to try the force break mod. But I'm not sure whether you have to pull keycaps/switches before you open the board? If it's just to remove the base plate, add the tape and screw it back in?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  2 года назад +1

      I do it in this stream so you can follow along www.twitch.tv/videos/1446670288

    • @OneRedKraken
      @OneRedKraken 2 года назад +2

      @@AndyVNguyen THANK YOU! I just did it. And it's definitely worth it! It's unbelievable that 2 tiny layers of masking tape manage to do this!? The board no longer rings like a bell! Amazing! Can't thank you enough!

  • @wolfmanwarden2849
    @wolfmanwarden2849 2 года назад

    Keyboards forced me to break my bank account

  • @dislikebutton1718
    @dislikebutton1718 2 года назад

    i think the slight air gap that the tape is creating is allowing sound to escape through. when it is air tight, an echo is created which is what we associate as hollowness.