Janalphabet Lol you use switches, you fucking noob, I activate it with a switch puller going in the pcb Edit: just in case, it’s a joke please don’t get mad
Allways if I can get good looking keycaps with GMK on the box! Why would I want a good computer anyways. It more reasonable to buy 200 $ pieces of plastic.
Just a heads-up but if you like the look of pudding but enjoy thicker, higher quality keycaps... The new Ducky pudding caps are pretty great. Got some for my son and they were better quality and thickness than standard pudding caps found elsewhere. PBT doubleshot.
Got purple pudding Matrix keycaps not to long ago! Really enjoy them though I cant tell the difference much from those and some Amazon Green ones I got for half the price.
Working in the injection moulding industry. I can confirm the main thing you're paying for is limited availability/limited runs. Abs vs pbt and even manufacturing quality to an extent is not the biggest price differential. That will be a few pence/cents per key cap at most. But limited runs can be the biggest difference. When you divide tooling costs and press time into each part, a 50k single shot tool or 100k double shot tool set (rough estimates) with colour variations with setup costs and small run times etc is where the money adds up for the manufacturer ROI.
So what you're saying is that they are intentionally making them available for limited times so that they can charge more rather than keeping them around so that they can charge less. That is, artificially inflating demand and price at the same time so that they can justify the absurd prices. Hmmm.
@@nickglover yes and no. The manufacturer will estimate demand and base their runs on this. At the end of the day you have a cost of investment, so if you can't invest for 100k sets but can only afford 1k sets then so be it.
I suppose that also doesn't really explain why sets that are normally stocked, like basically every MT3 set on Drop, are so expensive. Those should have the better ROI, and yet...
@@nickglover again you can look at it from a pure material and process aspect and these sets should cost no more than about £10. You put a price on your brand though separately based on what you think of your engineering/design input and what that is worth. When you talk Automotive (segment I work in) , you are not looking at 100k more car from an audi Q5 to a range rover vogue. But people pay that for the perceived quality/luxury of the range rover.
Yeah, I think that's really what I'm saying. People want to justify the prices, but really it's just that they can get away with charging that. If we all stopped buying, they'd probably lower prices. But it's a weird inflated market we've all accepted, so it continues.
Hey JDTechGear I needed help with Anne Pro 2 keyboard (60% keyboard): I need a Portuguese keyboard, but doing so I lose the functions on the side of those keycaps. So my point is, where can I got to, to order custom backlit keys, in Portuguese, backlit but have the side functions on them?
EPBT is seriously underrated. Also no mention of Signature Plastics SA. Their ABS is on another caliber. Not as crisp as GMK but looks better when it turns shiny.
JTK has become one of my go to brands of middle-ground, Also JTK has been one of the few to pull off a Triple-shot set of caps on a few different runs. Custom boards is a endless rabbit hole to fall into, but imo worth it over-all.
I got myself a KBD67 which requires a shorter shift key that many mainstream keycap sets don't have, which forced me to dig into the custom keyboard market and many of the popular Chinese keyboard websites like Taihao, Kprepublic and KBDfans. I'm really glad I didn't go for a cheap $40 set of two-tone and instead settled on a GB of EPBT Sushi keys. They are really nice to touch and super high quality. $100 for the set.
I’m waiting on the GMK Vaporwave to arrive, it’s going to be a nice upgrade from the cheap white keycaps that I currently have and help bring my setup together
you forgot a major con of GMK sets; they get shiny due to being made of ABS, the font won't wear off since its doubleshot but they'll start to feel pretty nasty and the shine will be visible
to add to this, getting any custom keycaps for ISO (even UK ISO which has only a few additional caps compared to france or german) is very hard, most of the cheaper but still decent quality caps only support ANSI or partial ISO support, so the £100 range is non-existant there. maybe if someone knows of some sets link them below but ive yet to find any
Additional point: Profile. Most boards use OEM but I've seen a few with DSA. I haven't seen boards with SA caps stock, so if they're your thing, it's aftermarket only.
I got a blue switch TKL keyboard for free. Thin shinethrough ABS keycaps. When I build a proper board, it'll be with thick PBT DSA profile caps. The uniform profile is better for typing personally and for compatibility. And it looks and sounds more premium at a decent price.
the hardest thing about buying keycaps, is finding a set you like the legends, colors, thematics, and how it all looks as a whole, i couldnt care less about abs and pbt and stuff like that, but i cant seem to find any keycaps that i like, and i dont know where to look, amazon is limited to maybe 25 keycaps, and banggood the same, and most of those look too flashy and weird
If a keycap is just a bunch of plastic, a cpu is just a bunch of sand Gmk sets are like designer handbags, they're exclusive and they appreciate in value as they become more rare. Let's not kid ourselves on quality, sure they are higher quality but given how the whole system is automated it is definitely not worth hundreds based on the product alone, what is worth hundreds is the exclusivity of designs and colors. They are expensive because group buys are so long and in very small batches Here is an example: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N6FFP1C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I have that keycap set and a GMK set, the GMK one cost me $215 and this one cost $18. Aside from the backlighting being uneven like in the video at 4:08 which is just a problem with all pbt, these keycaps are just as thick as the GMK set and have no warping or other issues. For $18 they are just as high quality as the GMK set except for that one issue, but the GMK set is worth it because its worth minimum $300 now because it is exclusive and its in a niche colorway that perfectly matches everything else in my setup. If you just want quality you can't go wrong with keycaps similar to the one I linked, but if you are buying GMK you are buying the exclusivity and uniqueness of the design. I think the video did a good job of making this point clear but I think there was too much of a focus on the quality. The quality is not important up to a certain level, and it makes no sense comparing $200 keycaps with free ones that come with the keyboard to say they have higher quality, its more fair to compare them against $20 - $50 keycaps and the truth is there really isn't much more quality, its all just about exclusivity
I’d love a comparison video of the GMK Laser and Akko Neon keycap sets.. I love the look of the laser, but the Akko looks solid for the price. Tons of additional options and robust colors
@@mechros4460 I definitely wouldn’t go that far, I had warping on a spacebar and a bunch of caps were missing chunks. It was a nice keycap set but definitely had its flaws
@@Praxtra_ seems like the quality is pretty inconsistent. Some people have great sets and some people have a lot of warping issues. Also the font lettering is inconsistent on some of the keycaps (modifiers, enter).
I honestly don't buy the price justification. I just got a 15 SA profile PBT set which is doubleshot and they feel amazing. They're super thick and rigid and have a nice colorway. The lighting shines through the letters but really slowly fades on the bottom which would be the only issue, but it's not very noticeable and definitely not worth a price increase of 50 or even 100 euros.
@@Slada1 Lego also has good quality control and a long history of it. These low volume keycap, switch and keyboard companies do not. You'd think these supposedly "one off" group buy keycaps and switches would be of the highest quality but they rarely if ever are completely without defects. Gmk plays it safe by barely innovating.
I thought that PBT spacebar with the lattice on the inside was familiar... the VA68M that it came with might've been hot garbage but they certainly knew what they were doing when they made a nice spacebar.
To you its worse, but to him its probably better. Imagine if he just want to change to overall feel of his keyboard, with a full set he can change everything on his keyboard, but with a spacebar? Good luck with that.
Set yourself a few notifications for the 8, 9, and the 10th month mark from now to help you remember, and get you excited to get them. What set did you end up joining in on? Cheers!
What is a good keycap set at around $50 or less range? Good video idea!! Key cap sets for every budget range with a review of what might be best for each budget range $25 or less on up.
Actually have been researching this for the last couple of months. I'll say the price is better but the quality depends on the brand you buy off of Ali. MaxKey, Domikey, ePBT, and a couple others are actually pretty solid. Don't fall for OneCao though
A lot of good information, but i would have wished for a form of comparison table at the end to better decide what to get. Cannot wait for my first set to arrive =)
I feel ya, there's a lot of brands out there I've yet to see in person that I feel would be necessary to put together a chart for pure comparison. Honestly after a certain price range it comes down to preference
Taihao caps are really thin compared to gmk or even epbt which sound worse than both. The legends on taihao caps are also pretty thin and sometimes. uneven. However, for the price, it is pretty good value. But epbt has been starting to make double shot abs like gmk for very low price as well (around $70) and is a much better option if you save up a little it more.
I got the tai hao abs keycaps and I actually prefer it over my Doubleshot PBT Keycaps. They are as light as an abs keycap but they feel like pbt keycaps. I definitely recommend getting Taihao abs keycaps if you can find any. They are Doubleshot abs so they won’t wear out but they will shine over time but for me I don’t really care since the feeling of the keycaps are really pleasant
it looks good, but the quality isn't that high, qc is kinda meh since my taihao caps has some scratches and looks like a nubmark out of the box I recommend you to save some and buy EnjoyABS or just find cheap PBT keycaps instead
I'd just rather by clones over paying resellers twice the original price. Also, most of the clones are PBT, which is great - ABS shine may not be a defect but I hate it.
0:45 What are those? Prolly one of the prettiest minimal colour combination of a Keyboard Cable I've ever seen.. by SummitCables? Zap? Those black aviators + the blue
@@jdtechgear Yo man. That'd be sick. More and more keyboard enthusiasts are booming up everywhere. Should grab the opportunity sir. Would never know your view count shoots up like wild.
do not stone me pls. i bought a 2 tone abs set (navy/pink) from taihao's website for like $30 w/ shipping! (i paid in TWD) and i love them! The caps don't feel slick at all, the colors and legends are very clean and the manufacturing quality is a 100x better than expected!
Keycaps are not like watches in which replicas are hard to make. You can find replicas (although limited selection) of certain colorways that are doubleshot pbt 1.5mm thick at half the price or even less, since I'm counting the shipping cost as well. The reasons mentioned in this video ARE reasons yes. The same reason why designer clothes cost x100 more than they cost to make. I don't think GMK keycaps are that insane, but I'm sure they don't have to charge as much as they do. They just CAN.
Not necessarily. These keycaps are usually one-offs. The molds for the legends have to be made and the colors have to be matched with each new set. An exclusive design and/or color combo is incredible expensive to do in small numbers from a manufacturer. Small numbers meaning orders less than 1mil-500k or so. The volume of production is so low that these keycaps would be virtually impossible to get for any price without a group buy.
@@jdtechgear I did alot more reading on how doubleshot keycaps are made and I see that alot of QC and a complicated process is involved. Also the colouring of the plastic is done separately. But the above would apply to less expensive doubleshot keycaps that are non GMK. So I'm guessing it has more to do with producing the new colorways, since they have to start from scratch. As for molds, novelties aside, the base kits are always the same legending with japanese characters on some, which molds are also available. So it doesn't need to have a mold made from scratch like novelties which makes sense for it to be expensive. So, I'm guessing the difference between $140 GMK set and $70 aliexpress set is simply a matter of having to create a new color combination of plastics. I'll have to look into whether making different colored plastic from scratch would justify difference in cost. Although I was also assuming that labor is more expensive in certain parts of the world than others and I think you know what I'm alluding to. But I forgot one more factor. The person who designed the set deserves to benefit from it. So I guess in some ways I can understand the difference.
WOW! my Nephew is deep into key caps, I shared this video with him on his Discord. I never knew they would cost this much, WOW.........AWESOME video JD
So do all these pros actually increase the price to manufacture the key caps enough to justify these > $150 price tags? Or is a big chunk of it the “premium” and “limited edition” feel
What about the sounds that certain keycaps make when typing? Are there materials of keycaps or differing shapes and thicknesses that sound different when typing?
Thanks for this, I always thought PBT was the be all and end all of key caps. The shining on ABS you mentioned is pretty accurate, I've had my keyboard for like 3months now and I can already see some shining on my keys. That's pretty much how I figured out that I have ABS key caps lol.
There isn't a notable difference in sound besides some acute differences. Sounds is mainly affected by case, sound treatment, switches, stabilizers, and plate material.
imo high quality pbt keycaps are worth it but personally not a fan of the high price gmk keycaps that are still abs as i loathe abs plastic shine after use
Really happy with my aesthetic keycaps from aliexpress and their sound. So all good. It's the limited buy that pushes that price. I can never justify to myself these luxury marketing premiums.
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"It seems almost impossible to spend this much money on pieces of plastic"
...lego sets...
...Anime figurines.
@@CaveyMoth or just figurines in general, they cost like 1000$+
Gunpla but the engineering is amazing so i shill. Maybe someday i will afford an PG set.
@@Chester200100 slowly staring at pgu rx-78-2 that I wanna buy
@@enriquemunoz6415 Cries in not having 300 usd to spare
i dont use keycaps im typing on the switches
😭 Nice
bruh same lmao i actually dont use the keycaps
brutal
what a legend
Janalphabet Lol you use switches, you fucking noob, I activate it with a switch puller going in the pcb
Edit: just in case, it’s a joke please don’t get mad
this is a brilliant video
you make brilliant videos
You actually do WATCH EVERY video of keyboards xD , your skit wasnt lying damn .
@@RealOxygentv fr, I'm obsessed atm
@@Glarses and i watched all your videos
lmao you’ve got me into custom keyboards i’m on my way to making my own now lmao tysm for making me spend unholy amounts of money on asthetic utensils
Somebody get this man a pointer so he stops marking things with his nice pen
Or maybe just suck out the ink
@@HentaiNat slurp
I thought he was writing on the keycap to demonstrate something.
It looked like just a normal pen you get for $1
Custom legends
"can cost as much as some cpus or GPUs"
it's alright i'll just use integrated graphics
Hell yeah
Allways if I can get good looking keycaps with GMK on the box! Why would I want a good computer anyways. It more reasonable to buy 200 $ pieces of plastic.
I have a weak PC cause that's all I need.
As a person who swapped out pudding keycaps for matrix keycaps, I was wondering why my keyboard sounded so different. Thank you for this video.
Yeah the Matrix caps are much better than the Pudding ones.
Just a heads-up but if you like the look of pudding but enjoy thicker, higher quality keycaps... The new Ducky pudding caps are pretty great. Got some for my son and they were better quality and thickness than standard pudding caps found elsewhere. PBT doubleshot.
Got purple pudding Matrix keycaps not to long ago! Really enjoy them though I cant tell the difference much from those and some Amazon Green ones I got for half the price.
Working in the injection moulding industry. I can confirm the main thing you're paying for is limited availability/limited runs. Abs vs pbt and even manufacturing quality to an extent is not the biggest price differential. That will be a few pence/cents per key cap at most. But limited runs can be the biggest difference. When you divide tooling costs and press time into each part, a 50k single shot tool or 100k double shot tool set (rough estimates) with colour variations with setup costs and small run times etc is where the money adds up for the manufacturer ROI.
So what you're saying is that they are intentionally making them available for limited times so that they can charge more rather than keeping them around so that they can charge less. That is, artificially inflating demand and price at the same time so that they can justify the absurd prices. Hmmm.
@@nickglover yes and no. The manufacturer will estimate demand and base their runs on this. At the end of the day you have a cost of investment, so if you can't invest for 100k sets but can only afford 1k sets then so be it.
I suppose that also doesn't really explain why sets that are normally stocked, like basically every MT3 set on Drop, are so expensive. Those should have the better ROI, and yet...
@@nickglover again you can look at it from a pure material and process aspect and these sets should cost no more than about £10. You put a price on your brand though separately based on what you think of your engineering/design input and what that is worth. When you talk Automotive (segment I work in) , you are not looking at 100k more car from an audi Q5 to a range rover vogue. But people pay that for the perceived quality/luxury of the range rover.
Yeah, I think that's really what I'm saying. People want to justify the prices, but really it's just that they can get away with charging that. If we all stopped buying, they'd probably lower prices. But it's a weird inflated market we've all accepted, so it continues.
Link and information to purchasing my custom deskmat now available! : bit.ly/2xuVC6Q
Hey JDTechGear
I needed help with Anne Pro 2 keyboard (60% keyboard):
I need a Portuguese keyboard, but doing so I lose the functions on the side of those keycaps.
So my point is, where can I got to, to order custom backlit keys, in Portuguese, backlit but have the side functions on them?
"As it seems almost impossible to spend that much on pieces of plastic". Cries in WH40K
Also what set of keycaps are y'all rockin? All sets welcome here from $0 to expensive ↓↓
GMK Mizu for me.
@@jonathanstone8553 I wish I picked up Mizu. Perfect blue colors. And also wish I picked up 8008 as well.
@@VCM5 Those were my first caps that I bought that weren't stock
A month late but GMK red samurai and GMK olivia on my two main keebs
Second-hand Leopold stock keycaps:v
It's so refreshing to see a video that doesn't need music to be engaging. Great work, man!
i love "actually the entire of this hobby require a lot of patience"
just, true
Damn! I feel like my knowledge of keycaps seriously levelled up in under 10 minutes! Super informative video JD!
Thank you Rita! I'm glad it could be followed without getting too technical 😅
preach
Same
EPBT is seriously underrated. Also no mention of Signature Plastics SA. Their ABS is on another caliber. Not as crisp as GMK but looks better when it turns shiny.
Legend says he's still inking the insides of keycaps till this very day.
It's how I prototype novelties
JTK has become one of my go to brands of middle-ground, Also JTK has been one of the few to pull off a Triple-shot set of caps on a few different runs. Custom boards is a endless rabbit hole to fall into, but imo worth it over-all.
im poor
I got myself a KBD67 which requires a shorter shift key that many mainstream keycap sets don't have, which forced me to dig into the custom keyboard market and many of the popular Chinese keyboard websites like Taihao, Kprepublic and KBDfans. I'm really glad I didn't go for a cheap $40 set of two-tone and instead settled on a GB of EPBT Sushi keys. They are really nice to touch and super high quality. $100 for the set.
This is really fantastically narrated, thanks for putting together this video for us! You did great👍
I’m waiting on the GMK Vaporwave to arrive, it’s going to be a nice upgrade from the cheap white keycaps that I currently have and help bring my setup together
Send pics on discord when they come in
@@jdtechgear I'll be sure to! I'm hoping for them to come within the next two weeks
@@Jdroo20 Did you get your keycaps? :)
I don't use keycaps or switches. I short the key wirings to send an input.
excellent video, straight to the point and toned down comfortably
Got myself some $30 dye sublimated PBT keycaps. The japanese coral sea. Fucking love them. I'll take the aesthetic of them over the $200 GMKs any day.
i just learned something news today! trying to customize my wooting keyboard but not sure what to look for. thanks for the video!
That group buy thing sounds like dlc season pass in gaming
I’ve done so much god damn research about plastics after going through a few sets of caps. U touched on a lot of good points.
Bro you're so good at talking
I am mesmerized, subbed instantly
beautiful summary right there, you've just earned a like, nice vid
A long needed explaination, and a nicely executed one. 10/10
This was super helpful thanks!
you forgot a major con of GMK sets; they get shiny due to being made of ABS, the font won't wear off since its doubleshot but they'll start to feel pretty nasty and the shine will be visible
to add to this, getting any custom keycaps for ISO (even UK ISO which has only a few additional caps compared to france or german) is very hard, most of the cheaper but still decent quality caps only support ANSI or partial ISO support, so the £100 range is non-existant there. maybe if someone knows of some sets link them below but ive yet to find any
Yeah this is also true. There isn't as much support for ISO layout from what I've seen.
@@jdtechgear seems KAT kits may be a good option, they are slowly poping up. maybe more will come out with the GMK wait times
I'm getting GMK Umbras in 2021 and I wanted to fully understand what makes them so good ! Thank you for the video
I plan on getting some cheapo ones from amazon initially so that i can actually use my first board, but upgrading to GMK as soon as possible.
Very well put and a educational video, thanks !
I contacted the designer of the Apollo set, he said there’s currently no plans on a second run. He’s focused on new designs.
Nooooo. I need my gray set. Modern Dolch it is
I joined my first GMK group buy last week and am now waiting on my set of GMK Nightshade!
dont worry, theyll be waiting for you next year.
@@alex99x99x oh ik, I bought it for my Christmas/New Years gift 😂
Additional point: Profile. Most boards use OEM but I've seen a few with DSA. I haven't seen boards with SA caps stock, so if they're your thing, it's aftermarket only.
I got a blue switch TKL keyboard for free. Thin shinethrough ABS keycaps.
When I build a proper board, it'll be with thick PBT DSA profile caps.
The uniform profile is better for typing personally and for compatibility. And it looks and sounds more premium at a decent price.
the hardest thing about buying keycaps, is finding a set you like the legends, colors, thematics, and how it all looks as a whole, i couldnt care less about abs and pbt and stuff like that, but i cant seem to find any keycaps that i like, and i dont know where to look, amazon is limited to maybe 25 keycaps, and banggood the same, and most of those look too flashy and weird
Having all the preferences met is definitely tricky. Sometimes it depends on my mood haha
Extremely informative. Thank you.
Thickness, anti fading, anti warping are pretty much the only things I look out for. After that, its just personal preference of the design
Gonna need the link to that Metropolis keycap set.
If a keycap is just a bunch of plastic, a cpu is just a bunch of sand
Gmk sets are like designer handbags, they're exclusive and they appreciate in value as they become more rare. Let's not kid ourselves on quality, sure they are higher quality but given how the whole system is automated it is definitely not worth hundreds based on the product alone, what is worth hundreds is the exclusivity of designs and colors. They are expensive because group buys are so long and in very small batches
Here is an example: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N6FFP1C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have that keycap set and a GMK set, the GMK one cost me $215 and this one cost $18. Aside from the backlighting being uneven like in the video at 4:08 which is just a problem with all pbt, these keycaps are just as thick as the GMK set and have no warping or other issues. For $18 they are just as high quality as the GMK set except for that one issue, but the GMK set is worth it because its worth minimum $300 now because it is exclusive and its in a niche colorway that perfectly matches everything else in my setup. If you just want quality you can't go wrong with keycaps similar to the one I linked, but if you are buying GMK you are buying the exclusivity and uniqueness of the design. I think the video did a good job of making this point clear but I think there was too much of a focus on the quality. The quality is not important up to a certain level, and it makes no sense comparing $200 keycaps with free ones that come with the keyboard to say they have higher quality, its more fair to compare them against $20 - $50 keycaps and the truth is there really isn't much more quality, its all just about exclusivity
I’d love a comparison video of the GMK Laser and Akko Neon keycap sets.. I love the look of the laser, but the Akko looks solid for the price. Tons of additional options and robust colors
Definitely, some would go far as to say that the Akko has better quality.
@@mechros4460 I definitely wouldn’t go that far, I had warping on a spacebar and a bunch of caps were missing chunks. It was a nice keycap set but definitely had its flaws
@@Praxtra_ seems like the quality is pretty inconsistent. Some people have great sets and some people have a lot of warping issues. Also the font lettering is inconsistent on some of the keycaps (modifiers, enter).
Whoaaa. It is you! You're the guy that did the Batman Parody mouse review.
I honestly don't buy the price justification. I just got a 15 SA profile PBT set which is doubleshot and they feel amazing. They're super thick and rigid and have a nice colorway. The lighting shines through the letters but really slowly fades on the bottom which would be the only issue, but it's not very noticeable and definitely not worth a price increase of 50 or even 100 euros.
have you ever owned a set of GMK Keycaps to compare them to your PBT set?
@@Jackpotur Why do he need to? He's good with his keycaps, that's it.
“It seems impossible to spend this much on plastic”
*Looks at LEGO collection*
And lego is mass produced!
@@Slada1 Lego also has good quality control and a long history of it. These low volume
keycap, switch and keyboard companies do not. You'd think these supposedly "one off" group buy keycaps and switches would be of the highest quality but they rarely if ever are completely without defects. Gmk plays it safe by barely innovating.
Wait...
I just watched a video about key caps...
What has this lock down done to me
There's a big community for keyboard enthusiasts
You should look for artisan keycaps, they're very expensive but beautiful. Usually people use them on the ESC key.
You will be horrified to learn that most of us have been enjoying custom keycaps long before pandemic lockdowns ever happened
It’s made you a man of culture.
I thought that PBT spacebar with the lattice on the inside was familiar... the VA68M that it came with might've been hot garbage but they certainly knew what they were doing when they made a nice spacebar.
Domikey and tai hao are both good. Some interesting bow Jian coming I have a good feeling
Maybe this will help me explain to my friend that a $12 keycap set from aliexpress is worse than a $12 spacebar from matrix
To you its worse, but to him its probably better. Imagine if he just want to change to overall feel of his keyboard, with a full set he can change everything on his keyboard, but with a spacebar? Good luck with that.
The only thing I hate on my stock ABS keycaps is it is a finger grease magnet. I had to clean it one a week or twice a month.
Thats when you reached the shininess the lubey keycap so yummy i want to lick
Amazing video 👌 do you have any plans on covering pom keycaps in the future?
Just bought a $200 keycap set. Hope I remember in a year.
Set yourself a few notifications for the 8, 9, and the 10th month mark from now to help you remember, and get you excited to get them. What set did you end up joining in on? Cheers!
@@christophersmith8028 oo. Did not know that. I joined the GMK Monarchs. Rough ly $200 cad with shipping
@@ElliotKwan that’s a rad set. Hope you enjoy them when they come in. Cheers!
Great info and excellent video :)
you deserve so many more subscribers with this quality of videos
What is a good keycap set at around $50 or less range? Good video idea!! Key cap sets for every budget range with a review of what might be best for each budget range $25 or less on up.
On ali express you can find G-MKY keycaps and Maxkey/Domikey keycaps, same quality for half of the price and always in stock.
Actually have been researching this for the last couple of months. I'll say the price is better but the quality depends on the brand you buy off of Ali. MaxKey, Domikey, ePBT, and a couple others are actually pretty solid. Don't fall for OneCao though
A lot of good information, but i would have wished for a form of comparison table at the end to better decide what to get. Cannot wait for my first set to arrive =)
I feel ya, there's a lot of brands out there I've yet to see in person that I feel would be necessary to put together a chart for pure comparison. Honestly after a certain price range it comes down to preference
hey bro, what’s black and red keycaps on this video? 6:19
I love how monotone the whole videos was
Nice
Me too, I'm just here to deliver information
It's my favotire. I'd rather not adjust my volume if he gets too quiet or too loud.
Didn't know there were $200 keycaps. Definitely seems like a scam for nerds with more money than things to do. Where can I buy some?
Just "$200 keycaps" sounds absurd
Any thoughts on the tai-hao keycaps? They seem pretty high quality.
Taihao caps are really thin compared to gmk or even epbt which sound worse than both. The legends on taihao caps are also pretty thin and sometimes. uneven. However, for the price, it is pretty good value. But epbt has been starting to make double shot abs like gmk for very low price as well (around $70) and is a much better option if you save up a little it more.
I got the tai hao abs keycaps and I actually prefer it over my Doubleshot PBT Keycaps. They are as light as an abs keycap but they feel like pbt keycaps. I definitely recommend getting Taihao abs keycaps if you can find any. They are Doubleshot abs so they won’t wear out but they will shine over time but for me I don’t really care since the feeling of the keycaps are really pleasant
I also got the Taihao abs keycaps only for 30$ + 20$ for shipping
it looks good, but the quality isn't that high, qc is kinda meh since my taihao caps has some scratches and looks like a nubmark out of the box
I recommend you to save some and buy EnjoyABS or just find cheap PBT keycaps instead
It’s good for an entry level board but if you get premium customs you would want better ones in the future
I'd just rather by clones over paying resellers twice the original price.
Also, most of the clones are PBT, which is great - ABS shine may not be a defect but I hate it.
0:45 What are those?
Prolly one of the prettiest minimal colour combination of a Keyboard Cable I've ever seen.. by SummitCables? Zap?
Those black aviators + the blue
I made that cable from parts bought off of Zap, came out way better than I thought it would!
@@jdtechgear You have pics or video featuring builds with that cable? Can't seem to notice any on your RUclips channel
@@KelvinTan133 sorry I never saw this man, I might try and make a video of it if you like or a build stream of sorts
@@jdtechgear Yo man. That'd be sick. More and more keyboard enthusiasts are booming up everywhere.
Should grab the opportunity sir. Would never know your view count shoots up like wild.
do not stone me pls.
i bought a 2 tone abs set (navy/pink) from taihao's website for like $30 w/ shipping! (i paid in TWD) and i love them! The caps don't feel slick at all, the colors and legends are very clean and the manufacturing quality is a 100x better than expected!
and no they don't feel any thinner then the double shot pbt set that i bought for 80$ a few months ago
Keycaps are not like watches in which replicas are hard to make.
You can find replicas (although limited selection) of certain colorways that are doubleshot pbt 1.5mm thick at half the price or even less, since I'm counting the shipping cost as well.
The reasons mentioned in this video ARE reasons yes. The same reason why designer clothes cost x100 more than they cost to make. I don't think GMK keycaps are that insane, but I'm sure they don't have to charge as much as they do. They just CAN.
Not necessarily. These keycaps are usually one-offs. The molds for the legends have to be made and the colors have to be matched with each new set. An exclusive design and/or color combo is incredible expensive to do in small numbers from a manufacturer. Small numbers meaning orders less than 1mil-500k or so. The volume of production is so low that these keycaps would be virtually impossible to get for any price without a group buy.
@@jdtechgear I did alot more reading on how doubleshot keycaps are made and I see that alot of QC and a complicated process is involved. Also the colouring of the plastic is done separately. But the above would apply to less expensive doubleshot keycaps that are non GMK. So I'm guessing it has more to do with producing the new colorways, since they have to start from scratch. As for molds, novelties aside, the base kits are always the same legending with japanese characters on some, which molds are also available. So it doesn't need to have a mold made from scratch like novelties which makes sense for it to be expensive. So, I'm guessing the difference between $140 GMK set and $70 aliexpress set is simply a matter of having to create a new color combination of plastics. I'll have to look into whether making different colored plastic from scratch would justify difference in cost. Although I was also assuming that labor is more expensive in certain parts of the world than others and I think you know what I'm alluding to. But I forgot one more factor. The person who designed the set deserves to benefit from it. So I guess in some ways I can understand the difference.
Dsa magic girl is the most colorful, prettiest keycaps ive seen. Wish they were 2mm thick though
Nice vid mate
Can’t believe you didn’t method Signature Plastic, they are famous of SA profile.
What are those keycaps at 6:30 I've been looking for a colorway like that for awhile
Those are ePBT Olivetti. They're mostly in stock keycaps
Thanks you so much
@@jdtechgear Are they any good?
Great content. Subscribed!
Excellent video and useful information.
The amount of times he said keycaps...
WOW! my Nephew is deep into key caps, I shared this video with him on his Discord. I never knew they would cost this much, WOW.........AWESOME video JD
Thanks Mr Cly! I hope he enjoyed it 😆
@@jdtechgear we both enjoyed it.
Are Tai hao keycaps any good..i just hopped into the keyboard space
0:59
What website is that?
So do all these pros actually increase the price to manufacture the key caps enough to justify these > $150 price tags? Or is a big chunk of it the “premium” and “limited edition” feel
What about the sounds that certain keycaps make when typing? Are there materials of keycaps or differing shapes and thicknesses that sound different when typing?
Where did you purchase your custom cable from at 6:09 if you don’t mind me asking?
I made that one!
I have 3 gmk sets. I don’t think I’ll ever get rid of them.
Thanks for this, I always thought PBT was the be all and end all of key caps.
The shining on ABS you mentioned is pretty accurate, I've had my keyboard for like 3months now and I can already see some shining on my keys. That's pretty much how I figured out that I have ABS key caps lol.
So does high quality, double-shot, mocha espresso, ABS keycaps mean no shining like standard PBT keycaps?
what about pom keycaps, for example the ones made by esc keyboard, what is that compared to abs and pbt?
what was the cap set at 6:38?
And there I was thinking that waiting 2 weeks for a pair of split keyboard PCBs is a long time.
I think a typing sound test of comparison would complement your explanation better.
There isn't a notable difference in sound besides some acute differences. Sounds is mainly affected by case, sound treatment, switches, stabilizers, and plate material.
and to think I bought the RK61 for just $35
man I been lookin for some ISO-portuguese keycaps layout since forever
@JDTechGear Great video. Can you please tell me what the keycaps are at 6:30.
ePBT Olevetti I think
*leans into the microphone* "actually this whole entire hobby requires a lot of patience…" 😅
imo high quality pbt keycaps are worth it
but personally not a fan of the high price gmk keycaps that are still abs as i loathe abs plastic shine after use
ABS for rich colors and less warping, ePBT can get some nice colors in as well
very well done video. thanks a ton.
What about resin keycaps
I looked for the metropolis keycaps that were in this video and was disappointed when i saw they were sold a year ago smh
what set is that at 5:15 ? if anyone still sees this :)
Black lotus?
so doubleshot ABS won't shine overtime, but do they match PBT on that end?
As far as I know any type of ABS will shine over time
Really happy with my aesthetic keycaps from aliexpress and their sound. So all good.
It's the limited buy that pushes that price. I can never justify to myself these luxury marketing premiums.
Just finished a GMK Metropolis build, I can say, these keysets are expensive as fuck but it's worth it if you're willing to drop the coin.
nice dude, I hope you enjoy it!