I’m so glad you said that. I was new to the game and didn’t want to stress out over watching my XP and micromanaging stats. In any RPG that’s just not my idea of fun. So I took your advice. Played what I wanted, a Magick Archer; almost exclusively leveled as that. Had a great time. Got to NG+ and I was surprised I kept my level 200 status…o.O BUT…I decided to play an unarmed fighter, shield and fist only. 2x Bloody Knuckles. Zero periapts. I have maybe 300 or 350 STR tops. Not ideal. I completely destroy enemies still 😂😂😂 Shield bashing and flying punches is hilarious fun, even if you’re not minmaxed or built “wrong.” On my other account I have an Assassin that was purely leveled as Assassin after level 10. It’s way too strong. Game isn’t even fun once you get to that point; I even started buying worse weapons just for a challenge to keep it fresh… All I’m saying is it’s fun to play as you want, and no build is broken beyond playing. Absolutely true what you advise in your video.
That is such an important advice. A few days ago, I was disappointed because of how weak my MA was, so I searched for answers and got this "level up as a mage, so you can play as a MA at level 200". I was about to drop the vocation, but then I found a video that you said something like: "play whatever you want to play, just grab some good weapons and you good to go". That's what I did, now I'm playing my MA and killing everything that moves on BBI. Thanks for the tips, buddy. Cheers from Brazil! ❤
The damage calculation in Dragon's Dogma is flawed, which is why people prefer Min/Max. Instead of using percentage values for damage on enemies, fixed amounts are used, similar to how it's done in MMORPGs. For example: 100 attack vs 100 defense = minimal possible ingame dmg. 100 attack vs. 50 defense = 50 damage dealt 150 attack vs. 50 defense = 100 damage dealt In this case, only a 50% increase in attack results in a 100% increase in damage, which is why people opt for Min/Max. If you bypass enemy armor, all the atack after that becomes direct damage, and if you dont, all your atack are useless. In this game you re often too strong or too weak for the enemies. Love the game, butt that sucks.
I’m just starting DD for the first time!! This makes me feel so much better to know I can play however I want to. I’m just going to play with the vocations I enjoy for as many levels as I feel like!!
Thank you i was going through the first again now that two is coming out and got worried that i was not gonna be able to play as a physical class after i level up in magic too much
Pro tip, if you switch to sorcerer from say, fighter, you might feel a bit weak for a while but this is only because you don’t know the details that playing 20 hours of a class will give you, for example everyone knows dragons maw is very good, but if you hadn’t touched sorcerer you’d have no idea if bolide is any good (it kinda isn’t since it launches 10 projectiles with only two being guaranteed to hit). So commit to whatever you try by learning what attacks feel like they actually hurt the enemy before just giving up and saying “class bad”
So if I were to basically try to fully rank up every vocation at the start of the game for their augments and then just spend the rest of the game as my prefered vocation (a Mystic Knight in my personal case), so long as I equip the right augments for my playstyle and rank up my gear, I'll still be able to handle endgame content like BBI? A simple "yes" or "no" is perfectly fine, just want to know for sure because I kinda don't have much patience for this leveling stuff
I know this video says min-maxing isn't needed but I still wish to get advice on my Pawn leveling as a casual player. My Pawn started as a Fighter and is currently a Warrior since lv.10 for maximum attack growth. At the very, very end, I want her to be a Ranger and apparently from lv.100 onwards, Ranger gains identical stat growth as a Warrior with the exception of 1 less in Defense in exchange to 1 stat in Magick Defense. My question is, should I keep my Pawn as a Warrior until lv.200 or should I switch to Ranger at lv.100 and ultimately lose 100 base Defense in exchange for 100 M.Def? I will NOT having the best possible armor for her because l value aesthetics too much so I will purposely handicap both my Arisen and Pawn for this purpose. Is 100 extra in Defense more worth it than 100 extra in M.Def in this scenario?
i always do 190 lvs as sorc for myself because I genuinely like playing as sorc and then the reward at the end is a bonkers magick archer, with 3500 stamina and 3048 hp i can still play any class (not that i will i dont like ranger or strider). My pawn is an omni pawn with 448str 657mg 3500hp 4500st she can play any role.
At least assassin and sorcerer are both very fun/good vocations but if you don't enjoy them level as whatever you want. I did a few levels on warrior to a bit more health defense and augmentations.
not important enough that you play 100+ lvl as a vocation you don't like. you get so much dmg resistance on high lvl armor that 500hp is more or less nothing.
He says that it should not be attempted by someone who is new to the game. I, for example, bought the game a couple of weeks ago, and discovered how leveling stats was linked to the vocation you play. I started to stress because I thought I messed up, but videos like this one really helped me. But yeah, on your third playthrough, when you knwo almost everything about the game, go for it, it must be really fun when you know what you're doing.
Basically what I was trying to say is leveling with a build in mind helps make the game much easier for the base game because gear options are kinda terrible until you beat grigori so level efficiency matters then if you lack the patience like I do. But yeah in the long run min maxing is pointless.
@NotchaBizness I said easier I never said you couldn't beat it. And it only makes it easier while your gear options is ass like basically any weapon pre grigori.
I don't think min maxing is required but I do suggest starting with a build in mind still. Like if you want to to do strength weapons you should start with assassin up to like you finish your first playthrough just to get comfortable damage then move to whatever is most fun for you. Magic is a bit harder to cope with cuz of its stamina consumption I suggest doing strider up to level 30 then doing sorcerer up to level 60-70 after that it it doesn't matter.
Ranger has better stamina though. I got through the game with only the one vocation in mind, a MA. I leveled up other vocations when I was already lv 200 for the fun of it. My stats are not maxed for anything but middle of the road, leaning towards Magick, definitely NOT maxed. In NG I went bare knuckles on a fighter, using no weapon except a shield. NOT maxed for STR whatsoever - and I’m still wrecking everything shield bashing everyone. I hardly use periapts, the items I use are the tormentor’s helmet and cursed king’s belt, sovereign’s cape and 2x bloody knuckle rings - and of course a selection of upgraded shields. Point is it doesn’t make enough of a difference that it would matter at all in the long run, had I minmaxed or not. I’m wrecking every enemy without ever having paid attention to the stat nerd videos insisting we MUST bUiLd PrOpeRLy. If you like that sort of thing, do it. I just like playing the game as the vocations I want, without managing XP and stressing over changing vocations at every level up OR ELSE 😂😂😂
I hope this will be the last time i have to make a video about min-/maxing. It has been talked to death!
I’m so glad you said that. I was new to the game and didn’t want to stress out over watching my XP and micromanaging stats. In any RPG that’s just not my idea of fun.
So I took your advice. Played what I wanted, a Magick Archer; almost exclusively leveled as that. Had a great time.
Got to NG+ and I was surprised I kept my level 200 status…o.O
BUT…I decided to play an unarmed fighter, shield and fist only. 2x Bloody Knuckles. Zero periapts. I have maybe 300 or 350 STR tops. Not ideal.
I completely destroy enemies still 😂😂😂 Shield bashing and flying punches is hilarious fun, even if you’re not minmaxed or built “wrong.”
On my other account I have an Assassin that was purely leveled as Assassin after level 10. It’s way too strong. Game isn’t even fun once you get to that point; I even started buying worse weapons just for a challenge to keep it fresh…
All I’m saying is it’s fun to play as you want, and no build is broken beyond playing. Absolutely true what you advise in your video.
That is such an important advice. A few days ago, I was disappointed because of how weak my MA was, so I searched for answers and got this "level up as a mage, so you can play as a MA at level 200". I was about to drop the vocation, but then I found a video that you said something like: "play whatever you want to play, just grab some good weapons and you good to go". That's what I did, now I'm playing my MA and killing everything that moves on BBI. Thanks for the tips, buddy. Cheers from Brazil! ❤
glad i could help :-D
I cant wait for the sequel and your content accompanying it ❤ big ups Dugarr!
we all are waiting :-D
This advice and saved my first dragon's dogma characters so thank you
The damage calculation in Dragon's Dogma is flawed, which is why people prefer Min/Max.
Instead of using percentage values for damage on enemies, fixed amounts are used, similar to how it's done in MMORPGs.
For example:
100 attack vs 100 defense = minimal possible ingame dmg.
100 attack vs. 50 defense = 50 damage dealt
150 attack vs. 50 defense = 100 damage dealt
In this case, only a 50% increase in attack results in a 100% increase in damage, which is why people opt for Min/Max.
If you bypass enemy armor, all the atack after that becomes direct damage, and if you dont, all your atack are useless.
In this game you re often too strong or too weak for the enemies.
Love the game, butt that sucks.
good analysis!
I’m just starting DD for the first time!! This makes me feel so much better to know I can play however I want to. I’m just going to play with the vocations I enjoy for as many levels as I feel like!!
that is the right thing to do. it's a game after all, not work ;-)
this is so nice to know now i can just fucking move along and play testing everything
play what's most fun to you, there is no wrong :-D
Hey Dugarr my man I just restarted the game from scratch and this video just saved me restarting to try to min max, thanks
Glad I could help ;-)
Thank you i was going through the first again now that two is coming out and got worried that i was not gonna be able to play as a physical class after i level up in magic too much
you can compensate everything with augments later on, don't worry
Pro tip, if you switch to sorcerer from say, fighter, you might feel a bit weak for a while but this is only because you don’t know the details that playing 20 hours of a class will give you, for example everyone knows dragons maw is very good, but if you hadn’t touched sorcerer you’d have no idea if bolide is any good (it kinda isn’t since it launches 10 projectiles with only two being guaranteed to hit). So commit to whatever you try by learning what attacks feel like they actually hurt the enemy before just giving up and saying “class bad”
good advice 👍
So if I were to basically try to fully rank up every vocation at the start of the game for their augments and then just spend the rest of the game as my prefered vocation (a Mystic Knight in my personal case), so long as I equip the right augments for my playstyle and rank up my gear, I'll still be able to handle endgame content like BBI?
A simple "yes" or "no" is perfectly fine, just want to know for sure because I kinda don't have much patience for this leveling stuff
yes 😜
@@dugarrYT thanks 👍
I know this video says min-maxing isn't needed but I still wish to get advice on my Pawn leveling as a casual player.
My Pawn started as a Fighter and is currently a Warrior since lv.10 for maximum attack growth.
At the very, very end, I want her to be a Ranger and apparently from lv.100 onwards, Ranger gains identical stat growth as a Warrior with the exception of 1 less in Defense in exchange to 1 stat in Magick Defense.
My question is, should I keep my Pawn as a Warrior until lv.200 or should I switch to Ranger at lv.100 and ultimately lose 100 base Defense in exchange for 100 M.Def?
I will NOT having the best possible armor for her because l value aesthetics too much so I will purposely handicap both my Arisen and Pawn for this purpose. Is 100 extra in Defense more worth it than 100 extra in M.Def in this scenario?
the most important stat for a Ranger is Stamina. Def not so much, because a Ranger stays behind and fires arrows. So i would say switch to Ranger.
You should do a review about the new dragoms dogma 2 game trailer
i don't think i can add anything noteworthy here, @The_Rift did an awesome job already! go watch theres. it's really good!
I'd call this Max/Minning
i always do 190 lvs as sorc for myself because I genuinely like playing as sorc and then the reward at the end is a bonkers magick archer, with 3500 stamina and 3048 hp i can still play any class (not that i will i dont like ranger or strider). My pawn is an omni pawn with 448str 657mg 3500hp 4500st she can play any role.
as long as you have fun, you do everything right
+thanks for the video
The best advice a newly Arisen can get.
It's a waste of time, just play the vocations you like and switch whenever you like.
Kill a Dragon!!!!
that and you can always start over. you will probably play it more than one time ;-)
Exactly, min maxing is totally great so just go for it because it all depends on how you want to play the game!
it very true this guy knows his shit
thx :-D
Or, "How I learned to stop giving a sh*t and just play Strider for 200 levels"
you can't go wrong with strider ;-)
At least assassin and sorcerer are both very fun/good vocations but if you don't enjoy them level as whatever you want. I did a few levels on warrior to a bit more health defense and augmentations.
I feel min maxing does make a difference. I'm mean to me the difference between 500 health of the top two highest health growth is pretty important.
not important enough that you play 100+ lvl as a vocation you don't like. you get so much dmg resistance on high lvl armor that 500hp is more or less nothing.
He says that it should not be attempted by someone who is new to the game. I, for example, bought the game a couple of weeks ago, and discovered how leveling stats was linked to the vocation you play. I started to stress because I thought I messed up, but videos like this one really helped me. But yeah, on your third playthrough, when you knwo almost everything about the game, go for it, it must be really fun when you know what you're doing.
@@leonardodelpuertoburk2439 that's exactly what I meant!
It doesn’t change anything 😂😂😂
Basically what I was trying to say is leveling with a build in mind helps make the game much easier for the base game because gear options are kinda terrible until you beat grigori so level efficiency matters then if you lack the patience like I do. But yeah in the long run min maxing is pointless.
It doesn’t matter. Minmaxed or not you can beat the game easily on any difficulty
@NotchaBizness I said easier I never said you couldn't beat it. And it only makes it easier while your gear options is ass like basically any weapon pre grigori.
I don't think min maxing is required but I do suggest starting with a build in mind still. Like if you want to to do strength weapons you should start with assassin up to like you finish your first playthrough just to get comfortable damage then move to whatever is most fun for you. Magic is a bit harder to cope with cuz of its stamina consumption I suggest doing strider up to level 30 then doing sorcerer up to level 60-70 after that it it doesn't matter.
if you are new to the game you don't know how the vocations work, so its difficult to make a plan beforehand. later on, absolutely do!
Ranger has better stamina though. I got through the game with only the one vocation in mind, a MA. I leveled up other vocations when I was already lv 200 for the fun of it. My stats are not maxed for anything but middle of the road, leaning towards Magick, definitely NOT maxed.
In NG I went bare knuckles on a fighter, using no weapon except a shield. NOT maxed for STR whatsoever - and I’m still wrecking everything shield bashing everyone.
I hardly use periapts, the items I use are the tormentor’s helmet and cursed king’s belt, sovereign’s cape and 2x bloody knuckle rings - and of course a selection of upgraded shields.
Point is it doesn’t make enough of a difference that it would matter at all in the long run, had I minmaxed or not. I’m wrecking every enemy without ever having paid attention to the stat nerd videos insisting we MUST bUiLd PrOpeRLy.
If you like that sort of thing, do it. I just like playing the game as the vocations I want, without managing XP and stressing over changing vocations at every level up OR ELSE 😂😂😂
Or just use a mod that fixes MA stat gains and have balanced stats as if you did the whole sorcerer/assassin carefully planned leveling route.
i hope they have a better system for stats in DD2, mods aren't an option for console players.
@@dugarrYT So far it seems like the same system which is unfortunate.
i avoid spoilers as good as i can, so i don't have a clue. i just hope for a great game 😁
Can i just i just use MA through the whole gameplay and be alright
yes. gear takes care of everything. and you can still max out vocations after lvl200 to get there augments.
That’s what I did and it was absolutely fine