If you go through a scalehouse while it's showing that violation you will get a violation ticket. It doesn't matter that you're not actually in the violation all that matters is the ELD will be showing you're in a violation if you can't get a DOT officer that does not feel like looking at the log and doing a little bit of mit's a little math because she's in a bad mood you will get the ticket and the ticket is regal because the ELD is showing you are in a current violation plus they could shut you down for 10 hours ( other than this issue I have to admit it's best eld I've used but this is a bigger problem than the software techs understand... trucks aren't just part of logistics . they're rolling atm's )
Incorrect. Inspectors are to assume you will complete the split. Inspectors also never see the colors or violations, as long as you enter dot Inspection mode. In the case a violation was issued, it would be immediately removed via DataQ. I have dealt with over 1000 inspections, and have only seen 1 time where a violation was issued in error, and that was even though no violation showed on ELD. I was able to get it removed very easily
I've never used keep trucking as a driver and I'm just curious to know the difference between primary and Secondary clocks?? I also applied with a trucking company and the owner told me that he can edit or add hours to my elogs so I can drive 700 to 850 miles per day 😅 and when I asked him how can he do that he didn't give me an answer and I the whole conversion with this guy freaked me out and my question to u is how can any company edit or add driving hours to driver's logs if they are about to run out??
A COMPANY CANNOT LEGALLY EDIT DRIVING HOURS EVER!!! I would not recommend working for anyone that admits they break the law right off the bat. If you are working for the right company you should be able to make a good living without putting yourself or anyone else at risk.
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 I swear to god this guy told my that his (strong) drivers can so 700 to 850 miles a day and I asked him how can they possibly do this in a 14 hr window with only 11 hrs to drive and he told me he can edit or add hours to my logs if I want to drive more and he refused to tell me how he can do it,,, but my guess is he will have like different profiles for each driver on the elog or he uses different e log providers to be able to do this.. I ain't making this up and can show the text messages
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 Who wants to crash a semi and cause a tragedy and possibly go to jail if they come out alive because of this extreme greed and this particular evil business owner who,, as it seemed to me,, have no concern about drivers safety
I have a current option. My load just got loaded 20 min earlier, my hours are finish to drive or shift, but split click shows 2.34 min and I need to go to pilot which is about 31 miles 22 min can I drive without violation ? If I press split and than drive
Yes that is correct you just have to make sure you go into the sleeper four eight solid hours or if you are out of hours at a shipper or receiver you may use personal conveyance go to the nearest reasonable resting location
That guy was dumb to leave 5 minutes before 10 hours lmao. I tried doing a 7 hour sleeper and it didn't give me any time to drive even tapping the box. I drove several hours and took 30 minute break. Then drove 30 minutes and parked for 3 hours also sleeper. Violations were never removed. But from everything I read I was legal. Any comments?
As long as it is truly Personal conveyance, it would be considered off duty, and that qualifies. However be very careful as personal conveyance is the top reason for falsification violations
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 So I drove to the nearby truck stop to grab some grub on off duty personal conveyance. Once I made it back to the shipper I hit the regular off duty tab but I didn't know it would restart my off duty clock. I also didn't think it would be legal to sit in the dock on off duty personal conveyance to complete my 3 hour break.
@@johnmiller3970 Few things - 1. the time listed below the status does not have an affect on the short break as it is a cumulative time. So once you have completed the 2-3 hour break you will see the time come available. 2. It is not recommended to use off duty at a shipper or receiver. "all time in or on the vehicle is considered on-duty, except time spent resting in the sleeper". I would definitely recommend using the sleeper at shipper or receiver
What happens when my 14 hr shift is over and i went on a off duty but I accidentally re parked without use PC it took me on a violation because it took me 39 seconds to re park now it saying exceeded 14 hr shift limit can I do anything with it or it will stay violation for 2 weeks?
Parking would not be considered driving, it would be an on duty activity, and you can only get violations for driving. So even though the eld shows red as long as is it clear in the remarks you are fine
Been driving all my shifts with full 11 driving and 10 of sleeper. I want to do the split with the 8 hour sleep and continue driving with the split version, completed the 8 hours on split, but when I tap the show split hours it’s only giving me 2 min to drive. Can you please explain to me why this is happening?
It is difficult without seeing log. But either one of two things has happened. You did not have any hours available when you went into the sleeper and no break of at least 2 hours prior to going into sleeper. Or the sleeper period was broken for some reason
Today i forgot to put my log book in personal conveyance and drove 6 minutes and this violation showed up. I was on off duty prior to this for 3hours 49 minutes. Now should i put my book into sleeper for 8 hours or 7 hours and then an off duty for 2 hours? Please help me out.
2 things. 1. You could just complete the 10 ignoring the 6 minutes, and ignoring the red, as even if you are working a brief interruption does not affect the 10 per the FMCSA 2. If you do not want to see red, you would only need 7 solid in sleeper and you would get hour back, but woul have to take another 3 after
DEPENDING ON THE DELAY REASON - IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, THEN IT QUALIFIES AS ADVERSE AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO DRIVE UP TO 2 HOURS PAST YOUR NORMAL 11 AND 14, AS LONG AS YOU COULD OF MADE IT THERE WITHIN THE 11/14 MINUS THE ACCIDENT. OTHER THAN THAT I WOULD REALLY NEED MORE INFO TO GIVE AN ANSWER
I was in Sleeper birth for 9 hrs 98 mins I didn't noticed I wasn't logged in to my truck I HAD TO MOVE a lil AND WHEN I STOPED I I logged back in once I noticed and signed back in it was in driving and messed everything up I have no hrs no to drive
Godammit .. I forgot to turn on personal conveyance All I did was drive for 2 minutes because I wanted to get closer to the truck stop to use the restroom . Anyway to fix??
Quick scenario so if I have 3 hours driving then 5 hours on the sleeper then drive for another 5 hours if I go into the sleeper for another 5 hours that would be considered a 10 hours reset and give me back my 11 hours driving?
in order to use the split option to replace your 10 hour break, one period must be at least 2 hours off duty/sleeper, the other at least 7 consecutive in the sleeper only. Both periods combined must amount to at least 10 hours
it is legal but in violation until split is completed. If you do not complete split then it is a violation. Officers are instructed to assume the split will be completed during a stop
The word "violation" stays up as a reminder to not screw up. The software has no way of knowing the future, if you'll actually finish the split. When it says Violation you are technically in violation and your only escape is to finish the split and it will go away. Or of course, do a full 10 and reset both clocks. It could be helpful to notate on your log at the first part of your split that you are intending to use the split sleeper provision, just in case you get pulled over and inspected
Because you are in violation until you complete the split, which is not an issue when off duty is the second break, but a major deal when the sleeper is the second break
Either your ap did is not updated or the breaks are not completed, if you would like to send me copies of the logs rikyv@keepontheroad.com I will look at for you
Thank you sir, I was frustrated with the violation showing and drive time available👍🏾👍🏾
Very well explained. Thank you. 😊
Thanks alot brother. God Bless You!
Thank you man I was here panicking
Thank you for making this video, I wasn't sure about it so I am fixing to come up on 7 hours in SB and going to go to drop my empty trailer off.
Thank you for making it easy
Tnx driver for the explanation very clear very helpful .
Appreciate that tip. Cut n dry. Thank you. 🚛🚛
Excellent thanks!! So if I take just an 8 hr break in the sleeper, I still get the 8hrs back?
Thank you
I have a makeshift bed in my day cab and I’m able to sleep in it very well. Can I use the sleeper berth rules?
It would have to meet the regulations in 393.76
www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=1&ty=HTML&h=L&mc=true&=PART&n=pt49.5.393#se49.5.393_176
Makeshift = almost certainly no
Does the 2 hour off duty period have to be consecutive? Or can it be one hour then drive then for another hour?
Consecutive
If you go through a scalehouse while it's showing that violation you will get a violation ticket. It doesn't matter that you're not actually in the violation all that matters is the ELD will be showing you're in a violation if you can't get a DOT officer that does not feel like looking at the log and doing a little bit of mit's a little math because she's in a bad mood you will get the ticket and the ticket is regal because the ELD is showing you are in a current violation plus they could shut you down for 10 hours ( other than this issue I have to admit it's best eld I've used but this is a bigger problem than the software techs understand... trucks aren't just part of logistics . they're rolling atm's )
Incorrect. Inspectors are to assume you will complete the split. Inspectors also never see the colors or violations, as long as you enter dot Inspection mode. In the case a violation was issued, it would be immediately removed via DataQ. I have dealt with over 1000 inspections, and have only seen 1 time where a violation was issued in error, and that was even though no violation showed on ELD. I was able to get it removed very easily
I've never used keep trucking as a driver and I'm just curious to know the difference between primary and Secondary clocks?? I also applied with a trucking company and the owner told me that he can edit or add hours to my elogs so I can drive 700 to 850 miles per day 😅 and when I asked him how can he do that he didn't give me an answer and I the whole conversion with this guy freaked me out and my question to u is how can any company edit or add driving hours to driver's logs if they are about to run out??
A COMPANY CANNOT LEGALLY EDIT DRIVING HOURS EVER!!!
I would not recommend working for anyone that admits they break the law right off the bat. If you are working for the right company you should be able to make a good living without putting yourself or anyone else at risk.
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 I swear to god this guy told my that his (strong) drivers can so 700 to 850 miles a day and I asked him how can they possibly do this in a 14 hr window with only 11 hrs to drive and he told me he can edit or add hours to my logs if I want to drive more and he refused to tell me how he can do it,,, but my guess is he will have like different profiles for each driver on the elog or he uses different e log providers to be able to do this.. I ain't making this up and can show the text messages
@@omarh4694 I believe you 100%, just letting you know it is illegal, and to stay away from companies like that
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 Who wants to crash a semi and cause a tragedy and possibly go to jail if they come out alive because of this extreme greed and this particular evil business owner who,, as it seemed to me,, have no concern about drivers safety
I have a current option.
My load just got loaded 20 min earlier, my hours are finish to drive or shift, but split click shows 2.34 min and I need to go to pilot which is about 31 miles 22 min can I drive without violation ? If I press split and than drive
Yes that is correct you just have to make sure you go into the sleeper four eight solid hours or if you are out of hours at a shipper or receiver you may use personal conveyance go to the nearest reasonable resting location
That guy was dumb to leave 5 minutes before 10 hours lmao.
I tried doing a 7 hour sleeper and it didn't give me any time to drive even tapping the box. I drove several hours and took 30 minute break. Then drove 30 minutes and parked for 3 hours also sleeper. Violations were never removed. But from everything I read I was legal. Any comments?
without seeing the log it would be difficult to make any assumptions. feel free to email to me @ rikyv@kepontheroad.com
Does it need to be from sb or can it be done from just off duty
The 7 to 8 hour must be in the sleeper uninterrupted
Can you drive on off duty-personal conveyance while on your 3 or 2 hour break after being in the sleeper for 7 or 8 hours?
As long as it is truly Personal conveyance, it would be considered off duty, and that qualifies. However be very careful as personal conveyance is the top reason for falsification violations
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 So I drove to the nearby truck stop to grab some grub on off duty personal conveyance. Once I made it back to the shipper I hit the regular off duty tab but I didn't know it would restart my off duty clock. I also didn't think it would be legal to sit in the dock on off duty personal conveyance to complete my 3 hour break.
@@johnmiller3970 Few things - 1. the time listed below the status does not have an affect on the short break as it is a cumulative time. So once you have completed the 2-3 hour break you will see the time come available.
2. It is not recommended to use off duty at a shipper or receiver. "all time in or on the vehicle is considered on-duty, except time spent resting in the sleeper". I would definitely recommend using the sleeper at shipper or receiver
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 ok 👌
Yes
Ok my question is when do you determine off duty from SB. Confusing like what is correct protocol
Sleeper period must be at least 7 hours consecutive. Anything else can be either
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 ok so during that 7 hour window period I can or cannot enable personal conveyance last question thanks?
@@mookg1258 no must be consecutive in sleeper
What happens when my 14 hr shift is over and i went on a off duty but I accidentally re parked without use PC it took me on a violation because it took me 39 seconds to re park now it saying exceeded 14 hr shift limit can I do anything with it or it will stay violation for 2 weeks?
Parking would not be considered driving, it would be an on duty activity, and you can only get violations for driving. So even though the eld shows red as long as is it clear in the remarks you are fine
Been driving all my shifts with full 11 driving and 10 of sleeper. I want to do the split with the 8 hour sleep and continue driving with the split version, completed the 8 hours on split, but when I tap the show split hours it’s only giving me 2 min to drive. Can you please explain to me why this is happening?
It is difficult without seeing log. But either one of two things has happened. You did not have any hours available when you went into the sleeper and no break of at least 2 hours prior to going into sleeper. Or the sleeper period was broken for some reason
Thank you. That was very informative
Today i forgot to put my log book in personal conveyance and drove 6 minutes and this violation showed up. I was on off duty prior to this for 3hours 49 minutes. Now should i put my book into sleeper for 8 hours or 7 hours and then an off duty for 2 hours? Please help me out.
2 things. 1. You could just complete the 10 ignoring the 6 minutes, and ignoring the red, as even if you are working a brief interruption does not affect the 10 per the FMCSA
2. If you do not want to see red, you would only need 7 solid in sleeper and you would get hour back, but woul have to take another 3 after
I have 2 hours 50 mins of drive time but it takes 4 hours to get to my destination due too traffic jams when is the best time to SB
DEPENDING ON THE DELAY REASON - IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, THEN IT QUALIFIES AS ADVERSE AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO DRIVE UP TO 2 HOURS PAST YOUR NORMAL 11 AND 14, AS LONG AS YOU COULD OF MADE IT THERE WITHIN THE 11/14 MINUS THE ACCIDENT.
OTHER THAN THAT I WOULD REALLY NEED MORE INFO TO GIVE AN ANSWER
Ok thats the answer i was looking for i appreciate your time and response buddy
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So when using the split you must go into OFF DUTY and not back in to SLEEPER to complete the time needed to make the 10hours?
No, the longer period 7 to 8 hours must be uninterrupted sleeper berth time.
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 yes, but the remaining time, the shorter time, for it to reset, you must go in to off duty or back in to sleeper mode?
the short break can be either/or does not matter
I was in Sleeper birth for 9 hrs 98 mins I didn't noticed I wasn't logged in to my truck I HAD TO MOVE a lil AND WHEN I STOPED I I logged back in once I noticed and signed back in it was in driving and messed everything up I have no hrs no to drive
There's an exception that the eld cannot process. As long as it was only a small interruption you are ok
Godammit .. I forgot to turn on personal conveyance
All I did was drive for 2 minutes because I wanted to get closer to the truck stop to use the restroom .
Anyway to fix??
Only thing you can do is make a notation
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 Well fk me sideways on a Tuesday morning
Quick scenario so if I have 3 hours driving then 5 hours on the sleeper then drive for another 5 hours if I go into the sleeper for another 5 hours that would be considered a 10 hours reset and give me back my 11 hours driving?
No you have to have at least one 7 hour sleeper period
Can i do the same but using off duty???
the 7-8 hour period must be in the sleeper
Can I contact you personally regarding some questions?
Email is riky@keepontheroad.com
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 hello, is this still your email? I sent a message but it got rejected. Thx.
@@dons9876 sorry rikyv@keepontheroad.com
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 no problem, sent you an email. Thx sir.
I want to jump
On it so I can hit Atlanta and not have to worry about traffic once my sleeper birth is done..
How to edit a drive violation? Thanks
If you are using an ELD then you can only make edits to non drive line events. If it is on the drive line, you may only notate if there was an error
What do you mean ‘we have to take 2 hours off’
in order to use the split option to replace your 10 hour break, one period must be at least 2 hours off duty/sleeper, the other at least 7 consecutive in the sleeper only. Both periods combined must amount to at least 10 hours
Now i understand i thought my sb split wasn't working or activating
Oh ok I was wondering why it said I was in violation
Why is it showing a violation when it’s perfectly legal to do that?
it is legal but in violation until split is completed. If you do not complete split then it is a violation. Officers are instructed to assume the split will be completed during a stop
The word "violation" stays up as a reminder to not screw up. The software has no way of knowing the future, if you'll actually finish the split. When it says Violation you are technically in violation and your only escape is to finish the split and it will go away. Or of course, do a full 10 and reset both clocks. It could be helpful to notate on your log at the first part of your split that you are intending to use the split sleeper provision, just in case you get pulled over and inspected
Is it possible to go over the 2 hours and still use the split?
Yes any off duty time over 2 hours can be used
Is there a way to fix it
once an event is on the drive line it cannot be moved
@@keepontheroadtrucking7903 ok
No, just make notations
Does the eld reset after a certain time like 14 days then you wouldn’t see this or is it always one a history
Why the red line though🤔
Because you are in violation until you complete the split, which is not an issue when off duty is the second break, but a major deal when the sleeper is the second break
Ok I use the 8 hrs then I I was off for 14 hrs I still have the violation
i would have to look at the log - you could email it to rikyv@keepontheroad.com
Forgot to log out so in violation
Don’t work like that. Keep trucking left a violation on your book. I have proof of that.
Either your ap did is not updated or the breaks are not completed, if you would like to send me copies of the logs rikyv@keepontheroad.com I will look at for you