2024 Jeep Wrangler 392 vs Ford Bronco Raptor - After Off-Roading Both, This Is The One I Would Buy!

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  • @TT-ch2pz
    @TT-ch2pz 11 месяцев назад +643

    The real question is, who the hell pays 100K for either one of these. That's ridiculous!

    • @justinw12311
      @justinw12311 11 месяцев назад

      To answer your question is the people who are fake , have no morals and screw people out of money . aka this generation !

    • @satisfyerpro
      @satisfyerpro 11 месяцев назад +67

      Seriously! I'm failing to see the value. Just buy a basic jeep or bronco and mod it yourself to save tens of thousands of dollars

    • @JollyGiant19
      @JollyGiant19 11 месяцев назад +31

      Enough. I see Mercedes S class SUVs at national parks now so these costs aren’t out of the question for some…

    • @TaylorCrosbyofficial
      @TaylorCrosbyofficial 11 месяцев назад +48

      Clearly you haven’t driven one. I loooove mine. Worth every penny

    • @henrycruz45cal
      @henrycruz45cal 11 месяцев назад +9

      You do have 100k Roman; many times over

  • @MichaelLochowitz
    @MichaelLochowitz 11 месяцев назад +76

    When I paid $45K for my 2014 JKU Rubicon I was nervous to go extreme with off-roading it. I told my wife I wish I had bought an older jeep. Her advice was just wait, eventually this will be an older jeep. Now I’m having a blast with it and don’t give a hoot about pinstriping or worry about trail damage. I could not imagine the stress of taking a $100k vehicle off roading.

    • @oliverpalmer7855
      @oliverpalmer7855 11 месяцев назад +1

      That was exactly my thoughts, especially with my wife always wanting me to go a little more wild. Eventually since I had another car I was dailying, I just sold my newish 2012 jeep for a built 87 and it's a blast

    • @nothingtoseaheardammit
      @nothingtoseaheardammit 11 месяцев назад +8

      You dont have to worry about offloading a $100k rig... you have to worry about selling your offloaded $100k rig 🤣

    • @MichaelGou
      @MichaelGou 10 месяцев назад +3

      When I bought this 392, it cost me $200,000, while my friend paid $300,000 for the same car in China. Here, a 2.0T rubicon sets you back $80,000, so before you grumble about paying $100K for a V8 natually aspirated jeep, just consider the money we folks in third-world countries have to fork out to own one. Perhaps then you'll understand if it's really worth it. God bless America.

    • @qupeter1224
      @qupeter1224 6 месяцев назад

      there are a g63 4x4^2 that cost 300k+ msrp and the market adjusted price add at least the msrp of 394 to it😂😂 personally i can’t imagine people off reading with 400k+ car but rich people just don’t care

    • @FahimibnDawud
      @FahimibnDawud Месяц назад

      ​@@MichaelGou Ok?! No one forced you to be an idiot with your money.

  • @IAmTheGuy1477
    @IAmTheGuy1477 11 месяцев назад +96

    Now, we want a 392 gladiator!

    • @MaryandTheJeepCycle
      @MaryandTheJeepCycle 11 месяцев назад +7

      YES!!

    • @bobkonradi1027
      @bobkonradi1027 9 месяцев назад +3

      A 392 Gladiator and with more towing capacity, close to what you can get with a Ram 150 pickup.

    • @scottleggejr
      @scottleggejr Месяц назад

      @@bobkonradi1027 They rolled the idiot dice when they put their engine/trans lineup in everything Stellantis 😜😜

  • @fosterrandy
    @fosterrandy 11 месяцев назад +114

    Great analysis and I like the opinion that you wouldn’t buy either. The average person can’t afford either and if they did manage to save enough would be too worried to use it off road like it should be used.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 11 месяцев назад +8

      He said he would buy the 392. 🤷‍♂ It's what he was reviewing. Of course he would start off with the love for it. But when one push comes to shove, he can be very practical. But he still chooses a Jeep over the Bronco when it comes to hitting the trails. That is the take away here. 😉

  • @geomax3465
    @geomax3465 11 месяцев назад +14

    The Wrangler with that Soundtrack!... It's a DREAM 🤤

  • @Its_Me0000
    @Its_Me0000 11 месяцев назад +30

    Thanks Roman. I would select the Jeep. I agree with your assessment that it is more fun to go off road with a $36K vehicle than a $100k vehicle.

    • @satisfyerpro
      @satisfyerpro 11 месяцев назад +3

      At 14k in mods and you saved 50k and probably have a MORE capable vehicle.

  • @Relyk711
    @Relyk711 11 месяцев назад +50

    This was one of my favorite Roman videos in a long time, or maybe ever. It felt pretty raw in all aspects, in a good way. A vulnerable opinion, a reflective stance on the market and TFL, a beautiful trail, two great vehicles and their subtle differences.
    Maybe it was the gasping for air, but it works! Great job as always team.

  • @TheNotimprezed
    @TheNotimprezed 11 месяцев назад +8

    Jeep people have been asking for a 5.7 as a $2000 option, not a $90k Jeep. The 392 is just spitting in the faces of loyal fans. Both are $30k over priced.

    • @backwoodstherapy
      @backwoodstherapy 11 месяцев назад +1

      That would be wonderful but it won't happen. V8s are on the way out. I wish I could get a smaller V8 option in a Sport, but that will never be a thing again.

  • @michaelblock3998
    @michaelblock3998 11 месяцев назад +37

    I’ve had 2 clients with 392s, trained them offroad driving and recovery. Excellent vehicle, I’m a Toyota guy. I’d buy the 392 if I had 100k to buy a Jeep.

    • @khurram51280
      @khurram51280 6 месяцев назад +1

      I would be interested in training

  • @neilbrown7412
    @neilbrown7412 11 месяцев назад +21

    Not going to spend $100k for either. But, if I had to choose, I would definitely go with the Jeep 392.

    • @ZboeC5
      @ZboeC5 11 месяцев назад +6

      Too bad a 6.4 engine upgrade in a RAM is like 2k but put it in a Wrangler and now it's a 25k upgrade...that's the BS part about it.

    • @BruceDragon-sf1tr
      @BruceDragon-sf1tr 11 месяцев назад +2

      That Bronco has came into Jeep realm and stomp it, forget being a dam fan, that Ford Bronco is on another level. Go test drive one if you don't believe me

    • @PyroBlonde7777
      @PyroBlonde7777 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@BruceDragon-sf1tr You're on meth. We've already seen Broncos with broken control arms because of independent suspension. The solid axles in the Jeep are 10x stronger. I've been in a loaded Rubicon on rough trails. They ride incredibly smooth. You're the fanboy.

    • @BruceDragon-sf1tr
      @BruceDragon-sf1tr 7 месяцев назад

      @@PyroBlonde7777 you're somewhat correct, The Bronco needs an well experienced driver, that's it.
      Of course the suspension easier to break but the Bronco is built for more than just being a one trick pony, Everything Mopar has is one trick pony. Now how about you stop speed balling before you enter the W🌎RLD WIDE WEB

    • @DarylRagland-ds1op
      @DarylRagland-ds1op 17 дней назад

      Bad choice

  • @ribbit1964
    @ribbit1964 11 месяцев назад +15

    Good morning Roman! Love your one man videos and this one did not disappoint! Go TFL!

  • @wesalexander2693
    @wesalexander2693 11 месяцев назад +37

    Great video, Roman and gorgeous scenery! I've been a Ford guy for many years, but that 392 Wrangler checks all the boxes that the Bronco Raptor doesn't! Those huge rubber/plastic fender flairs are just silly looking and no V6 will ever compare, sound wise, to the sound of a V8.

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 11 месяцев назад +3

      They had to put them on there for legal reasons, but they didn't really pull off the styling. They looked just plunked on. They should have done more fender flair like they do for the F150 and Ranger Raptor. By the way if I were going to buy a Raptor I would get the Ranger not the Bronco. The Raptor pickups look bad ass.

    • @bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461
      @bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461 11 месяцев назад +1

      @advfiberglass can fix the flare thing

    • @larrygoodsell9273
      @larrygoodsell9273 11 месяцев назад +4

      I believe Rubbermaid has filed a copyright lawsuit, haha.

    • @thebigfellar7178
      @thebigfellar7178 4 месяца назад

      My 2022 jeep wrangler unlimited sounds as good or better with factory pipes. But then she is a diesel, and she sounds like a diesel. When I went to finally get my dream vehicle. It was a long search. Two weeks it took me to find a diesel. That was brand spanking new. The eco-diesels are rare as hens' teeth now. I have 900 miles on her now. I bought an 8-year bumper to bumper warranty, based off not only my family's advice but everyone from the dealer to mechanics etc. She is surprisingly powerful. I'm driving her like a baby, but she jumps. Our driveway is 1/4 mile long we live in the blue ridge mountains of Va. There are no paved roads. My 3rd jeep. I'd never pay 100K for anything. 100K=House.

    • @wesalexander2693
      @wesalexander2693 4 месяца назад

      @@thebigfellar7178 I've been a diesel fan for many years, the torque and fuel economy are big advantages and, at least if you're a diesel fan, they sound good doing it! Years ago, we bought a used TDI "New" Beetle. We loved that car, it climbed hills like a mountain goat and achieved great fuel economy. Too bad VW had to cheat with their "diesel-gate" debacle, it was a wonderful engine.

  • @williammenken2090
    @williammenken2090 11 месяцев назад +4

    My Wife has a 2022 392 in Tuscadero and I have a 2023 392 in Black. We love them and they are fun, on and off road

  • @John-yf4ie
    @John-yf4ie 11 месяцев назад +6

    Both these vehicles are like a dream come true, but for me I enjoy our 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. True it's not a 392 but I can go any where off road, haul a large trailer filled with Dirt, haul wood. I moved my one sons furniture to his new home in the back of my Gladiator. I drove from Baltimore to NY and back on the highway doing 70 and sometimes hit 87 miles an hour and my fuel mileage was around 22 mpg. We drove up there to bring home a new rescue dog. Any way a great video!! YANNI!

  • @ruggedindsoup2135
    @ruggedindsoup2135 11 месяцев назад +6

    I wheel my 392…. when I first got it I was worried about being able to take the risk of scratching it or worse. After a little while I just figured it’s a Jeep, it’s supposed to have a few scratches or a ding or two. Now I’m ok with it.

  • @hughwolfe1176
    @hughwolfe1176 11 месяцев назад +19

    Great comparison, thank you for putting this video together…
    At one time I’d thought about a Bronco before they were actually out on the road and visible. Now that they’ve been out for a while, and they’re considerably fewer of them than Jeeps, I’d still purchase a Jeep as it has a history of off roading (and it just looks better)…
    So far as the 392 or the Raptor, if I could afford one it would be the 392.

  • @benoliver2826
    @benoliver2826 11 месяцев назад +6

    I bought me a used Gladiator Rubicon with 30k miles for 43k. I did a fender chop, 2 inch mopar lift, and some 35 Ridge grapplers and she feels perfect. I cant imagine that jeep being worth 50,000 more lol. Its insane. I really wish they had a 5.7 Hemi for the gladiator.

  • @brucehawk09
    @brucehawk09 11 месяцев назад +11

    One thing that confuses the hell out of me, is why did Ford put an analog speedo along with a massive digital one as well. I really like that Jeep kept their analog guages

    • @Carl-vx9ws
      @Carl-vx9ws 11 месяцев назад +3

      I did some digging into the manual for the Bronco, and the Raptor instrument cluster was shown as what would be in any Lux equipped Bronco, and the current instrument cluster for all other trims. Considering they changed the climate control knobs on the ‘22 models (removing the temperature display inside the knob) apparently due to availability of parts, I suspect the instrument cluster was another earlier casualty of part supply issues. Aesthetically speaking, I would have preferred all digital or all analog. I do find the Jeep cluster a better mix with the upgraded “Infotainment” display. That said, I love my Bronco, having owned a 2015 JKU for over seven years, it was an upgrade for me in how I use and enjoy my vehicle. I don’t have a Raptor and can’t justify the extra cost over a very well equipped “regular” Bronco. I feel the same about the Jeep, 392 is nice I just can’t justify the price. ✌🏼

  • @caifan444
    @caifan444 11 месяцев назад

    Great Video Roman and all the guys down in TFL Studios !!!

  • @jafletcher5105
    @jafletcher5105 3 месяца назад +3

    Don't forget that the Jeep 392 has one big advantage. at some point it will be running and in use while the Eco-boost Ford V6 engine is in the shop for most likely significant repairs. If Ford knew what they were doing they would have used the Coyote V8.

  • @DUNEATV
    @DUNEATV 11 месяцев назад +56

    I’m a Ford guy but I’d have to take the Jeep Rubicon! V8 and solid front axle! 💪

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 11 месяцев назад

      Ford has been having trouble meeting demand and the dealerships have absolutely been ripping off customers. Thats reason enough to buy a wrangler.

    • @makatron
      @makatron 11 месяцев назад +2

      Death wobble 🔥

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@makatron not until the front end parts start to wear out. I have a 05 Rubicon, and it had death wobble when I bought it. I rebuilt the front end, and no death wobble.

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@richfarfugnuven6308 I've heard its also more on modified jeeps with huge tires and stuff.

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeffk464 I'm running 35" tires. About to go to 37" tires. I will let you know how it goes.

  • @ralphkeith2905
    @ralphkeith2905 11 месяцев назад +39

    I would take my $100k and buy a Jeep Willys and do some upgrades; with the remainder of the money I'd purchase a top-of-the line mountain bike, new lightweight kayak and a Patriot camper to tow along.

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 11 месяцев назад +5

      And probably have Ruth Crist steak money for a year.

    • @lancec3509
      @lancec3509 11 месяцев назад

      You'll be 50k on the patriot. ..

  • @JarmelSingsKaraoke
    @JarmelSingsKaraoke 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks Roman 😊..... Have a beautiful Sunday everyone ✌️

  • @dmcgarry3000
    @dmcgarry3000 11 месяцев назад +33

    Does it bug anyone else that they always seem to go to the most extreme off road mode for everything? Most of the off road stuff happening in these videos don't require lockers or even low range

    • @backwoodstherapy
      @backwoodstherapy 11 месяцев назад +8

      Agreed. But they don't want to break anything so they try and go on easy mode.

    • @MS-mr4zm
      @MS-mr4zm 11 месяцев назад

      They do cheaper stuff too

    • @ReloaderJoe
      @ReloaderJoe 11 месяцев назад +10

      They pretty much use low range all the time. It's pretty annoying because it's not needed for most of the stuff they film.

    • @stevehernandez3489
      @stevehernandez3489 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, the high RPM’s was for sure bug’s in that video. No need for it on that dirt road trail. I thought I was being overly dramatic but glad to know others felt the same way.

    • @oneslackr
      @oneslackr 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@stevehernandez3489 : You could drive up that trail in an '87 Yugo. No $100K Jeep or Raptor needed.

  • @austinspitler32
    @austinspitler32 11 месяцев назад +47

    I’d go with the 392 hands down! The Bronco has some nice features but you can’t beat that classic Jeep look with the thunder of the V8!

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 11 месяцев назад +2

      Personally I would go with a $50,000 Rubicon. Maybe I would spring for the 4XE.

    • @cheater_robin1817
      @cheater_robin1817 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeffk464i have the 392 and had a 4xe rubicon and the 4xe had so many problems with it so i had to switch to a v8

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 11 месяцев назад

      @@cheater_robin1817 bummer

    • @jonisjonjon6705
      @jonisjonjon6705 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@cheater_robin1817I heard that the 4xe has an Italian engine that’s has many issues.

    • @cheater_robin1817
      @cheater_robin1817 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jonisjonjon6705Ye it’s the 2.0 liter they already sell and they add the electric bs to it. only gets u 20 miles and many electrical problems with it. I had it for about a month and sold it and lost money on it. ordered the 392 fully loaded and never looked back

  • @HJOperative
    @HJOperative 5 месяцев назад +5

    Just bought my Bronco Raptor last week for a Tax right off! Haha I love it so far! I have a built dedicated off road rig with solid axles so I am definitely aware of the pros and cons of both. For me I am using the bronco for mostly on road use so I really like the comfort of the Bronco.
    I see your point about the jeep being more integrated with styling. But really the only visible difference between a regular jeep and the 392 is the hood. The Bronco Raptor looks completely different than the regular Bronco, no mistaking it. For me the is a personal plus. Ford made the Bronco Raptor so so much different than the regular one with a different engine, axles, suspension, looks, lights, etc.

    • @DarylRagland-ds1op
      @DarylRagland-ds1op 17 дней назад

      I agree Bronco over jeep. Nobody cares how much money you don't have. Lmao. Bragging about a fun jeep. WOW your nig rich lol

  • @hoglaw09
    @hoglaw09 11 месяцев назад +12

    Tommy should really be doing this one. He’s the best of the crew in doing direct comparison videos.
    He’s always very well prepared (he knows his comparison facts cold) and does a better job comparing the on paper specs to how they translate to real world use.
    The dad always seems lesser prepared and always seems to be “winging it”.

  • @einfeldt777
    @einfeldt777 11 месяцев назад +15

    Roman you are hitting the nail right on the head, $100K plus is just way too expensive, so sad that most of us now are forced, to wait until we become the 3rd owner, before we can afford these wonderful machines

    • @rickbalderas7153
      @rickbalderas7153 11 месяцев назад

      or you can LS swap your current jeep :)

    • @MS-mr4zm
      @MS-mr4zm 11 месяцев назад +1

      How is it “way too expensive” when a basic bi**h work truck is $50-$60k?!? A Tacoma trd pro w/1/2 the power & capability & size is $50k+

    • @rickbalderas7153
      @rickbalderas7153 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@MS-mr4zm THOSE ARE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE AS WELL, THEY ALL ARE

    • @MS-mr4zm
      @MS-mr4zm 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@rickbalderas7153 lol well I can’t disagree w/ that….but given the current market situation relative to much “lower tier” less capable vehicles & their respective price points? Not too much

    • @wallywanker7435
      @wallywanker7435 2 месяца назад

      A Kia telluride sells for 75 k , a Kia ! So no these aren’t too much lol

  • @Donkeys_Dad_Adam
    @Donkeys_Dad_Adam 11 месяцев назад +5

    I have a ‘24 392 on order and I can’t wait to see it. I’ve just sold a very custom 4Runner for more than the original MSRP and I’m lucky enough to be able to afford the Jeep. The way things are going, I’d bet that this will be the last year for the hemi. Thanks for the great video!

  • @Ruddline
    @Ruddline 11 месяцев назад +5

    I really like how you kept it real about pricing. Most people would buy these and then get too cocky, if you destroy your wheelbase in 3 foot deep of mud/quicksand even with the God Jeep, you might still get stuck. Repair for your 392 might be as much as a basic Jeep. It might never be the same again. You need to be ok with doing damage to your off roader.

  • @jimfranklin8162
    @jimfranklin8162 6 месяцев назад +2

    After spending a lot of time looking at them, I bought the 392 and so glad I did. To be clear, I am a Ford guy. We are heading to Sedona and Moab in 90 days.

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli Месяц назад +1

    Your right about damaging the 4x4. I was living in Southern California desert and taking my lifted and re-geared Wrangler out in the desert it would be almost a $500 bill almost every time I took it out. From a broken tail light to a bent rim to a dented fender, if you really use a 4x4 it gets expensive fast. This is why I sold everything and quit off roading and now am a mountain biker driving a Ford Lightning and am saving a bunch of money!

  • @S97795
    @S97795 11 месяцев назад +6

    2 complaints with the Bronco Raptor. Those ridiculous fenders and the lack of a V8. However, I drove by one yesterday and overall they are badass.

    • @wallywanker7435
      @wallywanker7435 2 месяца назад

      To each his own I guess , I like the fenders maybe cause mine is black but they look good on red too lol , and the 6 has 418 hp , it feels like it has plenty of power. Had a 5.0 in my 21 f150 cause I had to have a v8 . I got over it. lol

  • @cgoadsf5001
    @cgoadsf5001 11 месяцев назад +6

    Great explanation on why the shocks are "more advanced" on the 392 vs the regular wrangler...

    • @ZboeC5
      @ZboeC5 11 месяцев назад

      There is no explanation because they aren't. Just heaver bound/rebound Rubicon shocks with damping rates to account for the heavier springs needed for the heavier engine. Lets not even get started on the fact that the 392 has less suspension articulation in the front because they can't let the front differential contact the oil pan...Which is achieved by using nothing more fancy than super extended front bumpstops to all but eliminate front suspension up travel.

  • @gkcamden9050
    @gkcamden9050 11 месяцев назад

    I really enjoyed this video. Thank you.

  • @blakemarchand6650
    @blakemarchand6650 11 месяцев назад +3

    392 All day no questions asked

  • @wint_62
    @wint_62 11 месяцев назад +7

    Crazy prices, but the Jeep 392.

  • @loneapple440
    @loneapple440 11 месяцев назад +12

    Great video of the Jeep. Awesome vehicle, but price is high.

  • @rockymountainjazzfan1822
    @rockymountainjazzfan1822 11 месяцев назад +4

    I had a '98 XJ that I bought used in 2002. I drove it 19 years. It was mildly modified (lift kit, 31", tires, Detroit Locker, extra skid plates, and winch). Counting everything, I had about $12K invested in it. Mechanically, it was nearly bulletproof, but--like most Jeeps--it suffered from the usually litany of electrical issues. It was still going strong when I sold it when I relocated out of heavy-duty 4-wheeling country (I still have other 4WD's) and it would go anywhere that these $90K+ 4WD's will go.

    • @larrygoodsell9273
      @larrygoodsell9273 11 месяцев назад

      I had an 87 XJ decades ago, I wheeled/beat the ever livin sh!t out of that poor thing. Sold it to my dad for a beater farm rig after about 10 years of abuse, it finally gave up the ghost at close to 375K miles with ZERO engine, transmission, T-case or axel work. We should have had bronzed. Fast forward 30 years and I'm driving a 23 Rubicon that I'll never do the crazy sh!t I did in that XJ! Thanks for spurring the memories.

  • @roderickhance2088
    @roderickhance2088 11 месяцев назад +15

    It’s the 392 all day long!! But sadly I agree with you on the neither as far as model….I’d LOVE to have a 392 one day, but they are just too darn expensive for the average consumer/wheeler. I’d still pick the JL tho with the v6. Great video guys!

  • @rodhester2166
    @rodhester2166 11 месяцев назад +46

    Both are awesome but I would take the Bronco because of better behavior on the road. Also I was with Litebrite when they took the Raptor on trails in Sand Hollow. Stock it went where 95% of people will never go. I am sure the jeep could also go on those trails but the highway trip to the event is the big difference.

    • @jamieeisenhower1560
      @jamieeisenhower1560 9 месяцев назад

      You must have had a off-road package only the Jeep will always be the king you could do anything to it and enjoy it and many conditions all about setup learn how to use a setup from what I have seen about Broncos they bounce around like a toy really stiff and no flex or Comfort special on the highway the old broncos had an actual suspension and front axle

    • @rodhester2166
      @rodhester2166 9 месяцев назад

      IFS is more high speed friendly than a solid. I have two old broncos one 1970 stock and one 76 off roader, so I know all about them. @@jamieeisenhower1560

    • @theclinchmma4126
      @theclinchmma4126 9 месяцев назад

      @@jamieeisenhower1560 you could just let ppl have their opinions and keep scrollin... you're obviously biased. Not everyone is gonna like jeep, and your opinion isn't gonna convince ppl otherwise.

    • @jamieeisenhower1560
      @jamieeisenhower1560 9 месяцев назад +1

      @theclinchmma41260 whatever dude quit telling people what to do and what to think just because you like something different weirdo high-priced junk is not going to satisfy people old school with new school mix will always be the king don't be trying to tell people what they like and don't like

    • @rodhester2166
      @rodhester2166 9 месяцев назад

      All I did was state my opinion. If you understood the physics and behavior of a front suspension ( Solid front vs IFS ) You would understand why on road and high speed performance is different between the two. There is actual science behind it. Last time I checked new jeeps were not inexpensive at all. As for old school I was most likely rock crawling before you even new how to drive dude. @@jamieeisenhower1560

  • @j.m.karsch9105
    @j.m.karsch9105 2 месяца назад +1

    We bought the 392 and hands down the funnest rig I've ever owned

  • @seanflahockey
    @seanflahockey 11 месяцев назад +6

    I just traded in a ‘21 Rubicon for an Eruption Green WildTrak. Whereas these aren’t the vehicles you are testing, hands down for me the Ford is just more civilized. Hard to explain until you drive both.

  • @tubeularvids
    @tubeularvids 11 месяцев назад +8

    That jeep looks too good. I’m a sucker for that type of green.

    • @HarryKuloh
      @HarryKuloh 11 месяцев назад +2

      I'm also a sucker for that type of gray*. Light gray with a tinge of green.
      Earl gray, cactus gray, lunar Rock, and even Honda madness a version too.

    • @tubeularvids
      @tubeularvids 11 месяцев назад

      @@HarryKuloh same 😆 it’s basically olive drab

  • @americanpatriot8996
    @americanpatriot8996 11 месяцев назад +5

    Wrangler 392 all the way

  • @JOSHSMITH-ak47
    @JOSHSMITH-ak47 2 месяца назад +1

    Agree to the end of this so much! Why I have a 2017 Wrangler I modded to have fun off road with and the 392 to keep low miles, resale value and finally when I don’t give a 💩 take it off road!

  • @fishgill0890
    @fishgill0890 11 месяцев назад +36

    Shopped both and picked the Raptor. More comfortable inside and better factory suspension. Loved the 6.4 but thats about about it.

    • @YouTubeBinging
      @YouTubeBinging 7 месяцев назад +2

      I bought 3 of each just for funsies

    • @derlar777
      @derlar777 7 месяцев назад +1

      Love my Bronco Raptor more then I expected. Never have been jeep fan although great for what is made to do after major mods. Jeep lovers should thank Bronco for pushing Jeep to give people better options and style instead of minimalist safety and reliability without major upgrades, otherwise Jeep would be stuck more lipstick on a old design.

    • @YouTubeBinging
      @YouTubeBinging 7 месяцев назад

      @derlar777 me too. I'm so glad I pre-ordered 4. One for me, my wife, and my daughter. I sold the 4th for profit which basically paid for my daughter's and some of the other 2.

  • @kingpin3919
    @kingpin3919 11 месяцев назад +4

    Love the scenery and review. Love both vehicles. Can't afford neither 😂

  • @jerrodcorey25
    @jerrodcorey25 11 месяцев назад +33

    I'll tell you I would pick the Jeep for several reasons.
    1. SOLID AXLES FRONT & REAR
    2. V-8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED
    3. IT'S A JEEP

    • @canalesivany
      @canalesivany 11 месяцев назад

      Is a jeep= is trash! The bronc is trash as well can go wrong with either one

    • @mikes.8305
      @mikes.8305 11 месяцев назад +2

      Those three reasons are why I like the bronco 😂.

  • @davidsauls9542
    @davidsauls9542 11 месяцев назад

    Amen !!! Another great video with honest, well informed opinion.

  • @ginonix7267
    @ginonix7267 10 месяцев назад

    Really good and honest review.

  • @disgruntledconservativevet1798
    @disgruntledconservativevet1798 11 месяцев назад +5

    Vehicle prices are out of control. I wouldn’t spend $100,000 on any vehicle. These manufacturers need a reality check.

    • @kevinstarski1598
      @kevinstarski1598 11 месяцев назад +2

      Manufacturers will produce (and dealers will mark up) whatever customers gobble up...

  • @moreaufamily437
    @moreaufamily437 11 месяцев назад +8

    The advantage of buying either the Wrangler 392 or the Bronco Raptor is not needing to modify it any further. It's as complete as can be right out of the factory. I've invested probably $15k in my '21 Wrangler Rubicon adding steel bumper front and back, winch, skid plates, etc. This is a way to get to the finish line right off the lot and the best part is, all covered under a warranty.
    As a former Hummer H1 owner, getting over the fear of wheeling a high dollar rig is something that one needs to get over by just taking it out usually with other people who also have high dollar value rigs. The wrangler 392 and Bronco Raptor excel offroad, in wilderness settings where these vehicles truly shine. I can go places where other people just can't go. That is what makes them worth it.
    I'd be torn and as much as I'm a Jeep person with a Wrangler and Gladiator in the Rubicon trim, I think I'd go for the Bronco Raptor in this case.

    • @HarryKuloh
      @HarryKuloh 11 месяцев назад +1

      Incorrect. 100k is insane.

  • @David-my3uu
    @David-my3uu 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent - would love to see you back on that trail with both vehicles when there’s a foot of snow on the ground!

  • @toddmcguire8581
    @toddmcguire8581 10 месяцев назад +2

    Love my 392….had a TRX previously and the 392 is just more fun. Enjoyed the video.

  • @JohnSmith-zi9or
    @JohnSmith-zi9or 11 месяцев назад +4

    If I off-roaded all the time, the 392. Otherwise, the Raptor. Your videos make me jealous of Colorado and how beautiful it is. If only CO was a full red state and no income taxes.

  • @Pilot-Ali
    @Pilot-Ali 11 месяцев назад +10

    Roman you’re right, either of the two options are expensive for off-roading. Seems like people who will buy these two for either mall crawling and other occasional reasons.

    • @jamelmccreary8175
      @jamelmccreary8175 11 месяцев назад +1

      I would get an 03 landcruiser and save thousands..

    • @Pilot-Ali
      @Pilot-Ali 11 месяцев назад

      @@jamelmccreary8175 Nice choice, I would go for a 2015 4Runner, maybe 09 would be better.

  • @davidwebster3510
    @davidwebster3510 11 месяцев назад

    Those comments at the end are the best comments I’ve ever heard from one of these channels honesty I love it

  • @AHealthyRun
    @AHealthyRun 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have a 2022 jeep 392, I ordered it in December 21 and received it July 4, 2022, it’s not a daily driver. I am just as excited now as I was back in July when I picked it up in 2022.. my build sticker came to a total price of 82,000 Fully loaded gorilla glass, front camera, extreme recon package.

  • @mikebutler901
    @mikebutler901 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’ve already ordered the 392, expecting it to arrive probably in about a month. Can hardly wait…

    • @Ruddline
      @Ruddline 11 месяцев назад

      Congratulations, you genuinely deserve it!

  • @richfarfugnuven6308
    @richfarfugnuven6308 11 месяцев назад +12

    For rock crawling, Jeep. For the desert, B-Raptor. I live in Denver, but would still buy the B-Raptor.😂

    • @TJ-po9ol
      @TJ-po9ol 10 месяцев назад

      F150 Raptor is far better for desert running

  • @oOBorderHopper
    @oOBorderHopper 11 месяцев назад +2

    392 all the way

  • @Natealfjames
    @Natealfjames 10 месяцев назад +2

    Own a Jeep love it , it’s great on the highway too, it’s perfectly imperfect

  • @davidrdanner4232
    @davidrdanner4232 11 месяцев назад +3

    If I could buy one it would be the 392 Rubicon.

  • @TheZR2Kid
    @TheZR2Kid 11 месяцев назад +9

    Bronco Rapter!!!!! For sure!

  • @kevinstarski1598
    @kevinstarski1598 11 месяцев назад +2

    We need a bit more of "Test driven TV" approach with some of these comparisons about how it FEELS when you're going thru washboards or forest roads, and rougher terrains...Which vehicle "seems" to be put together better, as far as able to withstand everything that comes with offroading...the stats can be found online....

  • @matadorprime6555
    @matadorprime6555 11 месяцев назад +2

    The sound alone of that 392 Hemi is worth $95K. You see the size of that Braptor, and you'd expect a rumble when it accelerates. Instead, you hear a Hoover vacuum. Hideous fenders too.

  • @a_man_has_no_name
    @a_man_has_no_name 11 месяцев назад +3

    They're apples to oranges, the 392 is a hardcore articulating rock climber, the Bronco Raptor is a baja desert runner. If jeep comes up with a wrangler Mojave then it would be a fair comparison. Yet again those fender flares on the raptor are quite polarizing and makes it hard to negotiate tight trails. Ignoring the price; the jeep is a better option IMO

  • @extersmedleyjr118
    @extersmedleyjr118 11 месяцев назад +3

    Well you guys feature a lot of Trucks I would dare say no one would use as intended because of the costs involved. Trx's, Raptors you name it they cost way to much to ever use off road!

  • @twinturbo3470
    @twinturbo3470 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for being honest about owning a cheap off reader and not giving a shit. It really does make things more fun

  • @Gonzo1968
    @Gonzo1968 Месяц назад +1

    392 all day! Great video!

  • @phenix3st
    @phenix3st 11 месяцев назад +2

    392 is so awesome. I’d take it off road. Love my 392 Durango

  • @Olddahg
    @Olddahg 11 месяцев назад +4

    Roman is Hoka’s largest stock holder 😂

  • @garyrichards9539
    @garyrichards9539 11 месяцев назад +6

    The Jeep. Framed doors hold up longer, particularly for off-road. ✔✔

  • @code_xj
    @code_xj 11 месяцев назад +2

    That 392 sounds wicked 👀

  • @morgancook6481
    @morgancook6481 11 месяцев назад

    Definitely agree in the 2017 Jeep y'all have over either the 392 or Raptor. Had a blast in my 2017. I do have a 22 JLR now but am still wheeling it, after all, that's what they're made for.

  • @johnkraft5640
    @johnkraft5640 11 месяцев назад +11

    You do not need 4 low in the 392. The torque of the engine will pull you along just fine in 4 high.

    • @ashergreenfield4180
      @ashergreenfield4180 11 месяцев назад

      How’s that work out going downhill?

    • @johnkraft5640
      @johnkraft5640 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ashergreenfield4180 hill descent control button. Please understand and know the capabilities, limitations, options of the vehicles being tested.

  • @andrewevans1519
    @andrewevans1519 11 месяцев назад +3

    Take the Jeep all day everyday

  • @Yamanijja
    @Yamanijja 9 месяцев назад

    I loved the Branco but I saw many videos it has water leaks during rainy season, when you open the doors all the water from the top of the car going inside it, is that normal or factory issue ?

  • @wmurphy3416ify
    @wmurphy3416ify 11 месяцев назад +1

    That earl grey is something else! Tried to find a gladiator in it but that and a Mojave package was almost impossible to find. I saw one and it was gone the next day. Great video as always

    • @gregmonhollen4327
      @gregmonhollen4327 11 месяцев назад +2

      I work in the plant just order one. It won’t take long to get it.

  • @denisbrisebois7658
    @denisbrisebois7658 11 месяцев назад +17

    For all the points you mentioned, and SPECIFICALLY THE 392 V8 power and exhaust sound, my pick would be the RUBICON 392, hands down!!!

  • @daveisnothere
    @daveisnothere 11 месяцев назад +4

    Imagine how much you could do to an older used 4x4 of your choosing with that 95k. Anything you build for that money would out perform these two.

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez 8 месяцев назад

      Any comment that starts with "Imagine" as the lead-in is immediately ignored for lack of imagination...

  • @keithdevoe9116
    @keithdevoe9116 6 месяцев назад

    Good answer

  • @collinsimmons7156
    @collinsimmons7156 11 месяцев назад +2

    The Jeep, love the sound.

  • @scotteramsey
    @scotteramsey 11 месяцев назад +13

    I would take the Jeep... There is no replacement for displacement. Also, the Jeep look and axels can't be beat.

    • @danielfair4675
      @danielfair4675 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yep, that 99 mph top speed is killer 😂😂

    • @DarylRagland-ds1op
      @DarylRagland-ds1op 17 дней назад +1

      Yeah we go everywhere through the woods. HEHEHEHE

  • @Petey003
    @Petey003 11 месяцев назад +7

    Bronco Raptor and Wrangler 392 are direct competitors but still excel at different things. The 392 is genuinely easier to handle in town, park, etc. The BRaptor is bigger, more comfortable and also super capable but in the rocks I still say Wrangler.

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 11 месяцев назад +4

      Everyone still seems to think the Wrangler is better offroad.

    • @Petey003
      @Petey003 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeffk464 Yea, I'm on the east coast (Vermont) and the trails are so overgrown, steep, and TIGHT that my wrangler is already rubbing tires on both sides. There's no way anything wider would come through them. Well, not with fenders and body fenders intact. LOL

  • @JJ4213FL
    @JJ4213FL 11 месяцев назад +2

    Im a Ford guy and I'd take the 392 in a heartbeat. Im a sucker for V8's and their sounds, and 392 is one of the best sounding. Plus, it's a factory V8...in a Jeep. That hasnt happened since the CJ5/7. Get your V8's while you still can!

    • @RedMage117
      @RedMage117 11 месяцев назад +1

      As an owner of a Chevy SS, you're speaking my language. I'd go with the V8 every time. But at 100k, Id probably go with a more reasonable Badlands Bronco instead. It kills me that they don't offer a v8 option for like $10k more, instead of this customer bilking pricing...there is little to no reason for the 392 to be 40k higher than a Rubicon.

    • @JJ4213FL
      @JJ4213FL 11 месяцев назад

      @@RedMage117 I agree.

  • @phillipcraggs6202
    @phillipcraggs6202 11 месяцев назад +1

    In my opinion, they don't directly compete. The Bronco was built for speed running and comfort, the Jeep is not.
    But I'd choose the Jeep all day every day, just because I like what the Jeep can do offroad.

  • @JCVACCARO
    @JCVACCARO 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'll take the 392.

  • @stevenscott8784
    @stevenscott8784 11 месяцев назад +4

    When it comes to the argument of IFS vs solid axle, my opinion has always been that no matter how much off-roading you do, for 90 percent of us, your vehicle is going to spend the majority of its life on paved road. Me personally would rather have that luxury of driving comfortable on paved road along with the capability the bronco has of road, but that's just my opinion.

    • @wallywanker7435
      @wallywanker7435 2 месяца назад

      Yep your right jeeps feel like ass on the road. Why feel like your off-roading when your traveling 1000 miles.

    • @DarylRagland-ds1op
      @DarylRagland-ds1op 17 дней назад

      Jeeps just too uncomfortable

  • @JROC734
    @JROC734 11 месяцев назад

    Oh wow! Let me think. I'd absolutely love to own neither of these vehicles! Seeing as how I don't own both I'm feeling a lot of love.

  • @jakelatham
    @jakelatham 11 месяцев назад

    Remind me what trail this is? I know you mentioned it but I can’t find it in the video again.

  • @brucebaker3523
    @brucebaker3523 11 месяцев назад +14

    Anyone with 100k to blow on a toy might want to take up flying.

  • @mamatobz2890
    @mamatobz2890 11 месяцев назад +6

    Totally agree. Ford is comfort. Gladiator is my option if only it also had a 392. We need better colors too!

  • @LogansRCOverland
    @LogansRCOverland 9 месяцев назад +1

    I would take the 392 rubicon, that thing is a beast and it sounds awsome. For me that wanna be jeep with the little v6 isn't even something I would consider taking over the 392 wrangler rubicon.

  • @johnmeeboer6044
    @johnmeeboer6044 11 месяцев назад +2

    I should take the jeep. Love the improvements jeep made

  • @Legendary-2024
    @Legendary-2024 11 месяцев назад +5

    i would love to see the bronco or 392 have tire inflation/deflation systems like the 90s hummer had

    • @dapymp17
      @dapymp17 11 месяцев назад

      Portals!!

  • @scottyellis3442
    @scottyellis3442 11 месяцев назад +12

    It would be the ford for me. I come from a very large family & when one buys a vehicle it normally snowballs into everyone else. At one time there were probably around 30 jeeps in my family and out of those 28 gave trouble. "Interior falls apart & lots of electrical issues".

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 11 месяцев назад +2

      Careful, Jeep fanatics will hunt you down and beat you for being honest and not being 1 of them.

    • @scottyellis3442
      @scottyellis3442 11 месяцев назад

      @@WW-wf8tu true, 🤣

    • @kinsmen1764
      @kinsmen1764 11 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, I'm one of the jeep fanatics here...........Trust me, fords also have their issues, if the 30 jeeps your family had were fords, you would be saying the same thing. Good luck with ford

    • @JoeSmith-nu8oo
      @JoeSmith-nu8oo 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@WW-wf8tu 😝 I would love to have a Bronco..........from the 60's, 70's or an 80-86. But right now I have 2 Jeeps and owned 2 a decade ago and never had any issues with them.Let's not act like FORD is a trouble free auto manufacturer or any other for that matter👍

    • @scottyellis3442
      @scottyellis3442 11 месяцев назад +1

      @kinsmen1764 not hardly, they've all switched to Ford, & with no issues. I myself switched 30 years ago from Chrysler to ford & all my ford's have never disappointed me, can't say the same about Chrysler. All my Chrysler products (4) had engine or transmission problems. If you like Chrysler, jeep, fiat, Peugeot, Stellantis, then that's what I'd spend my money on, & spend, & spend but for me I'll take a Ford any day.

  • @waleedzemami915
    @waleedzemami915 9 дней назад

    I graduated from Wayne state in Detroit and used to dream of buying a Jeep wrangler was built next door in Toledo despite the fact that at time Lee Iacocca couldn’t figure out how to fix the door locks on the Wrangler but you had the choice of removing the whole door and drive. It had a character. But now I am back home in Kuwait and still want to own a wrangler for me and my children to use but with the 6.4 Hemi I am thinking this is gonna be like flying on Boeing sitting next to a a door blowout.

  • @jumapelljohn3958
    @jumapelljohn3958 11 месяцев назад

    Does the 2024 Jeep with power seats have memory seats?