Jeep Rubicon 392 - 6-Month/10,000-mile Review - Pros and Cons
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- After putting 10,000 miles in 6 months of ownership, I give an in-depth owner review of my 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 XR (Xtreme Recon). I also go over a list of 5 pros and 5 cons to owning this one-of-a-kind muscle car Jeep.
Timestamps:
00:00 Engine Start-up
00:43 Intro
01:09 Personal Overview
03:17 Pro #1: The Engine
05:41 Pro #2: Best of Both
06:59 Pro #3: Capability
11:01 Pro #4: Daily Driver
14:00 Pro #5 JL Platform
15:03 Bonus Pro: No Start/Stop
16:37 Con #1: Gas Mileage
17:41 Con #2: Too Soft
18:18 Con #3: Hesitation
18:50 Con #4: Rattle Noise
19:38 Con #5: Cyl Deactivate
20:31 Bonus Con 1: Low Fluid
22:39 Bonus Con 2: $$$ Oil
24:12 Wrap-up
24:55 Extro
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I’ve had a love for jeeps after the very first rubicon was made but I’ve never had the opportunity to own one but yes the rubicon 392 is something now on my radar, it’s a wonderful machine and if you just do a few upgrades for off road capabilities it will become the ultimate
Absolutely! I just finished installing a lift for the 392. I can’t wait to see what it can do! I hope you get the opportunity to own one!
Got our 24 392 about 2 months ago, she will be a pavement queen unfortunately. We got firecracker red with the one touch top, we also have a 22 willies that i can say for sure the 392 drives so much better! Thank you for the heads up on low fluids and oil recommendations.
Congratulations on your new 2024! I've heard many people say they are a lot more refined that the previous year's 392s. And good choice of color on the firecracker red! That is actually a color I would have preferred if I had ordered mine. It's awesome that you have both a 392 and a Willy's! Enjoy them both!
You like the one touch?
I had the first 2023 wrangler 392 sold in NYS and I got it in September 2022 - I didn’t understand why I had a 2023 model year in 2022. But either way I love. I paid 72k fully loaded with all options except one - the us rider top. I wish I got it but money talks. I had a great company affiliate discount that I couldn’t pass up.
Wow, great deal! Congrats! And yeah, many times the car manufacturers come out with model years during the fall of the prior model year. Sometimes I’ve seen them available earlier than that/
Had this exact jeep 392 in the same color. Came in at the wrong time. Miss it every day. Will buy one again when I get a chance.
Sorry you had to give it up. It’s awesome that you had owned one! I hope you get the chance to own another soon! There’s been some really good deals on used ones lately.
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy yea seeing them in the 60k now. Waiting for 50k range and might grab one.
This is the last year they are making them. I think they announced the wrangler 392 final edition.
Great Video 👍
Great Info 👍
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing this adventure - I love the idea of a naturally aspirated Jeep with no stupid baggage like ESS. Too bad for the cylinder deactivation. I am debating either this (392 JL) or an Ineos Grenadier (call me crazy but I like it’s simplicity) - thank you again for the information!
That’s awesome! Glad you enjoyed!
The intermittent Adaptive Cruise Control harmonic rattle is a standard feature. My 4xe does the same thing. I just press on all 4 plastic screws when I hear it, and that seems to help.
😂 it’s there just to let you know you own a Jeep.
GR8 VIDEO THANKZZ FOR SHARING!!! GOT 37'z ON MINE NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL WITH THE 4:56 GEARING!! B4 IGOT A LIFT KIT I USED AIRBAGS IN THE REAR SPINGS FROM AIRLIFT WORKZ EXCELLENT FOR TOWING!!!!
The airbags would be another option as well. Thanks for bringing that up!
The transfer case has a clutch in it that wears out. Some people force 2 wheel drive to prolong it's life with the tazer mini.
I can get 18-19 mpg on long cross country trips but I have the 3.73 gears and 35's. No lack of power but I want 37s eventually and think I may be forced to regear.
From my understanding it’s always in 2WD(RWD) until it detects slippage. Then the clutch sends power to the front until the slippage is gone. From what I’ve read, some of these failures are occurring because people try to keep it 4hi Auto when off roading when they should actually be putting it into 4hi Part Time the minute they leave the pavement. I think it’s easy to want to keep it in 4hi auto because the thing has so much torque that it doesn’t seem like it needs to shift it at all and especially since it’s supposed to transfer the power automatically. I’ve done this on a few occasions in some of my videos (beginning of Wet N Wild trail at HF) but I really need to shift into 4hi part time and 4 lo a bit sooner. And 18-19 is fantastic! No doubt the gearing has something to do with that and possibly speed? Where I live, we have very high speed limits on rural highways and interstates and this is not conducive of producing high mpgs. 😂
Just got delivery of my '24 392. Love it so far. Great job in pointing out potential issues!
Congratulations! Hopefully they’ve worked out some of the stuff I mentioned. Such a great ride!
I could tell you the 2024 JL is even better! Smoother, quieter and quality materials including the full floater rear axle!
I sure would like to drive one at some point!
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy I had a 2021 Rubicon, but the 24 just seems to be dialed in a little better especially in the steering. Can’t really explain it….
Nice to know. I am putting my order in for a 2024 and looking for to getting it.
@@stefanenyce7691 Awesome!
@@DUNEATVi have a 2021 and you are 100% correct.It is tighter,quieter and smoother riding on the road.Actually i was so impressed i traded mine in and bought a 2024.Picking it up tuesday
Pedal Commander will fix that half second delay
Great video and nice Jeep! Have you done any videos on how to change your transfer case fluid by chance? I’d like to do the same for my rubicon that also has a clutch system tcase to be safe. Thanks!
Thank you! You’re in luck! Transfer Case Fluid Change on a Jeep Rubicon 392
ruclips.net/video/HZHhUf2CKDQ/видео.html
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy one last question for you.. many people are under the assumption that the Rubicon full-time tcase is purely a clutch system, even when engaged in true 4WD (4H part time and 4L).
My assumption is this:
The full time tcase does use a clutch, but also a chain and planetary gear system.
the 4H Auto works with a viscus clutch system for normal road use - all wheel drive, however when in 4H part time or 4L it is mechanically locked for off road with whatever the tcases corresponding ratio is. Would you agree? I can’t imagine a Rubicons tcase to not be mechanically locked when engaged in true off-road 4H and 4L, especially something like a 392 given its price tag.
@@kyle6703 I believe you are correct. This is why many people suggest putting it into 4hi Part Time the minute you leave the pavement in order to not pre maturely wear out the clutch system. Many out there believe that the reason some people’s 392 t-cases have failed, is they run them in regular 4hi Auto while doing minor off-road (dirt roads, light two-tracks, etc) and even though it does fine traction wise, it probably puts more strain on the clutches than they were really designed for. The way the t-case should be used: 4hi Auto (pavement), 4hi part time (light off-road, high speed off-road, or any slippery conditions), and 4-Low (Rock crawling or steep inclines/declines).
I get 15 in town and 18 on freeway (drove NY to SF and back) on my 2021 392 without recon package. Deactivation is fine but seldom kicks on.
That is great mpg!! I’m getting pretty good so far after the lift and bigger tires and towing with it!
Best all around all season vehicle. 2024 is even more. Nice video and congrats!!!!
That's what I've heard! I'm gonna have to test drive one, now that my curiosity is up. Lol! And thank you!
What part of Texas are you in? Going to be a meetup next weekend at hidden falls. Will be at least two 392s, including myself.
Howdy! I'm in San Antonio. I would love to go but we're going to be in Houston next weekend. :( Sounds like a ton of fun! I would love to hit the trails with some fellow 392s!
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy I’m actually in Leon springs. Not far away!
I wish my gladiator gobi willys had a 392. I would never even consider getting rid of it if it did. I would love to have this but I won't pay the ridiculous price for one. Hoping the used ones come down some in the next few years(although I'm not super hopeful)
A Gladiator 392, with a manual, would have been my ultimate ultimate ride! I hear you about the price. Especially if the new ones keep going up. You might start to see them in the upper $60s before too long.
You don’t need to re-gear to run 37s with your stock earring, my 392 has the 373 gears and I run 39 x 13 1/2 mud terrain‘s and I notice no power loss except off the line but there’s so much horsepower it doesn’t matter and I also tow an off-road teardrop trailer and the set up works awesome. The only thing you need to be very careful with is lifting the 392 I would not recommend anyone go over 3 1/2 inches anything taller will destroy the front driveshaft because the pinion angles do not work on higher lift kits, I went through that problem with Rockcrawler suspension 4 1/2 inch kit would not work, even aftermarket drive shafts would not work too steep of pinion angle thanks for the video
Wow, even aftermarket driveshafts wouldn't work at that height? Good info! I just added a 2.5" lift and 37s and I don't notice any power loss at all. In fact, in some ways, it feels quicker off the line thanks to heavy duty springs adding some stiffness to the ride. There's less body roll and significantly less brake dive. Thanks for chiming in! Stay tuned for upcoming lift kit install video and review!
37s will improve your mpg on the highway! When I went from 35s to 37s with 4:56 I gain almost 2mpg
Hmm, that’s interesting. I’m going to have to test this.
I also have a 392 XR. You and I are very similar. Haha I love this Jeep after several failed attempts at other vehicles. I put 37s on and the power gear ratio is perfect. Gas mileage didn’t change but it got better on long highway speeds not going 80 mph. Haha
I use amsoil. I became a dealer and if free. Just registered and they’ll send you a membership or spend 500 bucks and get it for free. Way cheaper then 14bucks.
Toyo RT trails seem to be my best tire choice I’ve had and I’ve had a lot. LOL. Clayton sells a replacement spring for 480 bucks. Helps with added weight and stiffness.
That’s good to know! It’s almost as if they had 37s in mind when they designed the 392. I’ve heard good things about Amsoil. Thanks for mentioning the membership. Something to think about.
Thanks for the recommendations!
Good vid. For the love of gawd, please make vids with doors and top off. 90% of Jeep owners don’t do it and it drives me nuts. This is the most badass Jeep. Please honor it.
Thank you! I used to roll with them off a lot more on previous Jeeps. You're right though. I should take them off more often. The weather here is just not usually ideal. It's either raining or it's too cold. We did happen to roll with the doors off at the beach last summer. ruclips.net/video/fSwwn_G_PWI/видео.html We also went topless, doorless, and windshieldless in the Gladiator Mojave that we previously owned. ruclips.net/video/UwIRa7ZjlIo/видео.html
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy since you do a lot of trips with it, how many miles does it have on it now and are you trying to keep the miles under a certain limit yearly?
@@nickcooper7867 No set limit. I just drive it to use it. Right now it’s sitting at 31500.
Did you have a 4xe? I have a 24 4xe, and with the same torque, (but less HP, only 375), it seems plenty fast enough and 34mpg on average. But beautiful color, same as my 4xe!
I did formerly own a 2021 Rubicon 4xE. It was pretty quick! I just didn’t get the same kind of mpg once adding tires and a lift and taking on long-distance trips.
I have a 79 CJ7 AMC 360cid the 304 it came with wore out best Jeep in my opinion next to the TJ
That says a lot! I loved my 2004 TJ Rubicon. The last of what I call the "true Jeeps". Not that the JK or JL aren't real Jeeps. But the TJ still has that original style and similar size of the originals.
I am also thinking about the Bronco Raptor, but the sound from the 392 is so much better. I like the size of the Bronco. I'll never go rock crawling with either, but I will tow nothing more than a camper or bike trailer. how much more clearance do you have in your garage? how tall are you? i'm 6'1" 225 and I had a 2 door Jeep Sahara back in the day and it felt tight
I was once parked next to a Bronco Raptor at a grocery store and the owner of it was there. We chat for a little and as I fired the 392 up, he immediately said "I should have gotten the 392" Lol! He stared long and hard as I pulled away. It had a couple inches of clearance when it was stock height and even now still clears it after the 2.5" lift. Probably has a half inch of clearance but I park in my garage everyday with no problems. I'm 6'1", 215, and I don't really have too much of an issue. Could it be a lot roomier? Sure. And I've had some really large, roomy vehicles in the past. But the lack of room for my height has never been an issue for me. It's way roomier than my 2004 TJ ever was and I loved driving that thing.
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy, thanks for the answers. I had a feeling that if I heard that 392 running next to a six, I would regret buying the Bronco.
I say that but I've never driven a B-Raptor and would probably love one lol! But I am partial to a good sounding V8! I'd say, see if you can test drive both. I was lucky and test drove several 392s before finally pulling the trigger. I hear the 24 is even more refined than my 2021 is.
I think I saw you today on Gossling. Or not. Very similar Jeep.
I'm located in San Antonio.
That Pennzoil ultra is top shelf oil….idk if I’d get cheap oil for a HP Jeep like that. Not worth the risk in case there’s ever a warranty concern with the engine.
I agree. I don’t really mind paying for it though. Amazon has a decent deal. I just have to list it for something to consider.
Do you think that engine delay at the roll is due to the cylinder deactivation?
I don’t think so. At idle it usually goes back to 8 cylinders. It has an indicator that supposedly tells you when it’s using it.
Oil ,penzoil never used to be a good option , I use 0 -40 mobil 1 Supercar oil in my 2021: jeep wrangler 392 , I order it through ,NAPA , it is expensive , but it says it's made for American made high performance engines with blowers and turbos ,always had good luck with mobil 1.
Sounds like a very good choice! Normally I use Mobil 1 in all my vehicles. I just decided to follow this one by the book. But I might switch it up down the road sometime.
12 isn't too bad. That's what I get in my 5.7 jgc with 30 inch tires... in city. My 04 tj is worse.
Yeah there’s definitely worse!
Nice. Noice! I have a riddle. What is yet another con that is actually another pro to your jeep? Answer: it is a RubiCON.
lol! That’s a good one Rich!
I want one. Where can I get the best price ?
I would use a vehicle search website such as Autotrader or Car Gurus and search for one either in your area or nationwide, and sort it by price. This will show you the lowest priced ones for the region or distance radius you specify.
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"squirrel!" Just like the dog from the movie Up lol
Lol!
Auto stop-start automatically wears out engine faster. As does deactivation. More CAFE-related over complexity. With decreased reliability.
Agreed!
Yea auto start don’t make a pro difference to me I can live without it. I’d also like a manual option too
There would definitely be nothing else like it anywhere, if it had a manual option!
Try the OFF-ROAD + button 👍🏻
Regarding the oil…I take it to the dealership. Do you think they add that special oil to it?
With what they’ll charge you I would certainly hope so!
I have used it but not too much at this point.
They should put it in a 2 door JL.
That thing would fly! And especially now that they’re making the Xtreme Recon kit available for the 2 doors now.
Funny that a squirrel showed up at the end...my Mojave has been at the dealer in Boerne for 3 months because a squirrel chewed the electrical harness and they can't get the part because it's supposedly back ordered...may have to trade for a 392. Still love my Mojave :).
Man, sorry to hear about the harness being on backorder! Loved my Mojave!
All I want is a torquey 4 cylinder diesel and a 6 speed but here we are with a monster v8
Lol!
The neighbours can wake up I’m sorry
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13mpg for a 392 is great, I barely get 16 in a 3.6 Gladiator 😂 damned Colorado mountains
I wonder what this would get up there! One way to find out! Lol!
Hot Steering Wheel error all day everyday for me
That’s a new one for me. What’s that give you? Is your heated steering wheel on all the time?
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy excellent review! I currently drive a gladiator Rubicon diesel. Thinking of trading for a 392 do you have any regrets getting rid of the Mojave? I also see you had a power wagon and a rebel what’s your top three favorites of all these vehicles?
Sure …..every Jeep should be $80000.
Needs a supercharger
“More horsepower. Always” -Randy Pobst
SQUIRREL!!!!
Lol!
You’ve only spent $3,500 in fuel in 6 mouths 😂
At the time of filming, $2883.53 was spent on fuel for this vehicle. And it was worth EVERY PENNY! 😂 We have relatively cheap gas in Texas. $3.65/gal avg for premium fuel (93oct).
Why anyone would want a junk scatpack motor in their jeep is beyond me smh. I owned a scatpack and it was the biggest POS ive ever owned smfh. I drove it for 3 weeks then sold it.
That's awesome!