Fishing Bucktails in Deep, Fast Water - Tips, Tweaks, & a Few Things to Think About
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Information for the beginner and experienced alike, based on my 40 years experience of fishing bucktails. Discusses the pros and cons of various techniques, tackle, and equipment. And again, I apologize for low level of the audio as Windows Movie Maker keeps killing the audio when it compiles.
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Your videos are far and away the most thoughtful and informative on all of RUclips. No clowning around, just great info. Many thanks.
Thanks Ian, and thanks for watching. Have a good season and stay safe.
Rich, that was fantastic. Thanks for sharing all of that great info.
+csralumni You're very welcome.
Your videos are filled with treasure troves of useful info. Thanks for them
You're welcome Lou.
Really Great info! Thanks Rich, for sharing you knowledge.
You are welcome Jerry, thanks for watching.
The best videos on RUclips!!! The information and delivery is second to none. Thanks
+MrXinsizionx Thank you MrX.
I've never seen anyone in Ireland use bucktails. We jig feathers for mackerel alright.
I have watched many of your videos and your explanation is outstanding. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. Chuck
Thank you for watching Chuck and I appreciate the kind words.
Thanks for putting this together. I like your diagrams and BT weight to water depth chart.
+scott becker You're welcome Scott. Hope it helps you out.
Thank you a million times over. This is an excellent video and breakdown of how to precisely work bucktails.
Please keep making content! You’re a treasure trove of good info!
Hi Karim. Unfortunately, was out of commission again for a while, so for now I'm just trying to get caught up on responding to everyone and trying to finish up on some new content and other stuff. Thanks for hanging in there with me and I'll get this thing going again.
Great video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
+Aaron Ray You are welcome Aaron.
I’ve been fishing a long time but just starting out using buck tails.. this was very informative, a very big help... thank you
Hi William. Very sorry for the late reply. I had a health issue that dragged on for a while but I'm back now. Glad you found my video useful. Thanks for watching
Amazing video Rich. A lot of science that I never thought about. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You are very welcome, and thank you for watching.
Must say it again, another excellent very informative video... I am so glad that I found you....You are going to make me a better more productive fisherman.. Thanks again for the lesson..
You are very welcome Seymour.
This was a very educational video. There was so many factors that I never took into consideration .... Wow, you has taught me a great deal of information that I will be incorporating on m next fishing adventure.. Thanks again and I will keep on spot burning your site to all my fishing buddies....
Thanks Seymour. For deep water there's nothing better than a bucktail and the better you can control it, the more fish you'll catch, and the less bucktails you'll lose to snags.
wow! talk about in depth tutorial.. this video presentation is awesome. i'm a first timer at using bucktail and this info will surely help me catch some. thank you.
There's a lot to effective bucktailing and my way is not the only way. Just want to give people some things to consider in order to expand their capabilities. Always experiment and try new things. You never know when you'll stumble on another chip in the big game.
Very interesting video Rich. I will certainly put these techniques to use. This spring.
+Matthew Ficco Hope it helps you this spring!
Thanks Rich, i am eager to take some of this info and apply to the surf. Appreciate the effort you make and clarity of presentation. A 61 year old newbie who's finding great pleasure getting to the OBX and making the attempt!
Hi David. We're never too old to learn new things, and the process of learning keeps us from getting old. Now if I could only get my body to believe this LOL.
Rich, thanks!, for sharing many insightful and useful tips with all of us out here. Mastering the buck-tail is nearly an art form in and of itself. Looks like we might in for an early run on stripers this year. Temperatures were up near 60 degrees here in Massachusetts. I used your Bing Map tips for a new fishing spot on Westport river late last fall. And landed a keepah!
+Stephen O'Brien You are welcome. We had a warm winter in VA also. Scads of small fish everywhere. Striped bass fishing is very different down here as compared to up north. Much more predictable, this from living and fishing the waters of Long Island for clse to 40 years. And yes, while not perfect, when you can get the airplane shots, Bing maps can be helpful. Have a good spring.
Thanks for the lessons, professor. Going out tonight near an inlet bridge and will try to put these lessons into practice. Gracias
Inlet and bridge, the double whammy. Love it. Took me a couple years to learn the deep water bridges in my area.
great video.Safety talk at end is great.
+newyota1 Thanks newyota. What I've seen on jettys over the year would make your hair stand up. Sneakers and shorts have no place on jettys lol.
Awesome video, Rich! Very well done. Thank you! I've snagged LOTS o' jigs in inlets and this is really the best description I've heard of how to do it. Gonna try it here in SE Florida... Thanks! :-)
+Jeff Wade Thanks for the kind words Jeff. Some inlets are kind and some are nasty. Usually, the worst is around bridges, particularly those that have been rebuild one or more times. Gravity still works and everything sinks to the bottom lol.
Your advice will apply well to the fast moving current at the dam in Lockport, Manitoba, Canada! Thanks
Sorry for the late reply. I missed this one. You are welcome Cuttlefish. The hardest thing in fast water is feeling the touchdown.
Happy New Year and tight lines to all!
Your videos and your explanation is outstanding.
Thank you.
watched this video a second time a year later, still extremely informative!
Missed this reply, sorry. Hope the video helps you out.
Great video thanks for making!
+Adrian Moeller You are very welcome Adrian.
Well I finally broke down and ponied up the dough for a GoPro camera, so my video quality should take a quantum leap. Got the headstrap so that I can fish and shoot at the same time, so I'll be mixing in some fish catching video with the informational stuff. Fish catching video footage is fun, but most of my videos are an attempt to stuff as much information as I can fit in them. When ever I finish a video, there's 20 more things I wanted to talk about and didn't get to lol.
richtroxler your videos are prefect in the current format.
Your videos and your explanation is outstanding.
Wonderful video!
Thanks! Hope it helps you out.
what a great video. Your videos are helping me a lot! Moving to DC next month and looking forward to get into some stripers!
Once again, swamped with work so I apologize for the late reply. I am glad you are finding my vids useful and thanks for the sub. Be well and stay safe.
@@richtroxler I hear you!! Going fishing tomorrow morning. Hope I catch something!
i am impressed.
Thank you. Unfortunately, was out of commission again for a while, so for now I'm just trying to get caught up on responding to everyone and trying to finish up on some new content and other stuff. Thanks for hanging in there with me and I'll get this thing going again.
Rich, where I live there is a very challenging spot I would like to get your opinion on how to fish. I live in the San Francisco Bay area. The place is Fort Baker, CA. Just South of Sausalito. The spot is Point Cavallo. This is just East of the Jetty. If you can see the underwater structure, (Google SF Bay underwater) you would see the point extends underwater for a few hundred yards and a major drop off to the East and West sides running North/South down too approx. 180 feet. The West side forms Horseshoe Bay. I can cast out too about 100-140 yards depending on the winds. The out going tide is extreme and is the most challenging to fish. I have caught Lingcod, Rockfish and perch but no Stripers or Halibut. The Halibut and Stripers migrate thru the Golden Gate each year. I would imagine Stripers feed either on the incoming or outgoing tide to one side of this underwater point. To the North is Sausalito and Mill Valley. There is a large area of shallow water flats. This area gets washed each day out past Cavallo point on the outgoing. I have not figured out what lure or too what depth and too which side of the underwater point the fish should be. Let me know if you have any ideas. Thanks!
Are you talking about the little point at the base of the jetty, at the end of Sommerville Road? Or the little point on the bend of East Road? When i know where, I'll have a few more questions before I can answer.
Thank you sir!
I apologize for the late reply, I had some personal business to attend to. You are very welcome.
Great video clear simple very instructive thanks
+saskaleb I hope it helps you saskaleb.
Your a surf fishing savage good book but I didnt read it either I catch fish like you disrespect I learned majority on my own your channel and 30 years in this species our beloved striped bass I admire all your videos and hard work that's what it takes in California no driving we hump it
What do u think about tsunami reels ? In my budget my shimano burns out every three months 40 to 60 fish who knows how many cats they just don't last rich, and o yea I'm a west coast fisherman I average 200 bass a year in my town most guys try with luck and hang about 50 I try to fish like you
This comment just popped up in my feed under "not responded". Apparently it's from 4 years ago. I'm not sure what happened but please accept my most sincere apologies for not responding to your post. I try to respond to everybody who posts on my channel, so a belated thank you for watching my video.
Super-detailed analysis! Who knew?!? I sure didn't! Recognize Long Creek. What have you caught there on bucktails?
Striped Bass
Sir it's your great videos I just love to watch. I had skinner, zeno hrimin and others stuff but you are champ. I just wanted to request you for below average anglers like us if you cold write a book passing on your experiance with video links like skinner, which would be a consolidated knowledge base for references and treasure for not so very good anglers. Kind regards, Faisal
I have written many articles and posts, most of which I have saved on my pc. One day, if time permits, I may consolidate all that material into a book, but it won't be anytime soon. Too much going on in my life right now lol. Thank for watching.
@@richtroxler I wish if you could kindly manage some time for us all to formally putt it in book form as your work is always a piece of art.... So articulated - so much focused and so detailed..... Thanks once again and meanwhile wonder if you could kindly putt your work accessible in some orderly fashion on line at one place putting all the bits and pieces together.. Thanks and best regards Faisal
Hey Rich, Any chance you would do a how to cast a bait caster video with your type of set up?
Actually, that's not a bad idea. Thanks. I'll give it some though. I have another video half way finished on my new series, but it's fishing season down here now and I'm getting pressed for time lol.
Rich, I'd like to apply some of your techniques for fishing bucktails in a deep, fast, inlet. I'm fishing something similar to your conventional setup in this video: conventional reel with 30lb line and an 8 ft rod. You mentioned how mono helps to float the bucktail off the bottom. Suppose I were using braid main line, with a mono top shot... 10-15 yds of 30-50 lb mono should be sufficient for floating, yes?
Hi Mueshow. The mono top shot will help for sure so you should be able to dial in a weigh of bucktail that should respond to the pressure, so bring a good assortment of body styles and weighs. Stick with the think body bucktails, no skinny Spro types. I like Andrus bucktails if you can find them.
Thanks for responding Rich. I'm talking about the point at the end of Sommerville Road. That point extends underwater south for about 400 to 500 yards tapering deeper too approx. 180 feet. It forms a cove on the west of the point south of the jetty. I can reach 120 yards from the bend in the jetty toward the cove, but have never caught anything there with bait or lures. When the tide is going out it's fast moving to the Golden Gate Bridge and then the Pacific. I catch rock cod and Lingcod on the incoming tide on the east side of the point. That's fun however, I'm sure there must be Striped Bass in the area as well. Here is a pic of the sea floor for the Bay. It's not that great. walrus.wr.usgs.gov/coastal_processes/sfbaycoastalsys/images/bathy_c1259.jpg. Let me know what you think. Again, thanks for responding.
This comment just popped up in my feed under "not responded". Apparently it's from 4 years ago. I'm not sure what happened but please accept my most sincere apologies for not responding to your post. I try to respond to everybody who posts on my channel, so a belated thank you for watching my video.
rich, whats your opinion on all of the development going around the lynnhaven inlet? it certainly has become a different area to fish ever since your first evaluation of the inlet and all the construction began
The bottom hasn't changed much other than the dock they made for the barge. But I think all the noise has been a turn off for the fish. I saw this on Long Island also when they were rebuilding the bridges. Hopefully they'll finish it on schedule. Another set of pilings to fish from my kayak won't suck lol. Maybe we'll bump into each other sometime down there. The orange pylons on my yak make it easy to spot me lol.
Thanks
You are welcome.
Id love to see more bucktailing vidoes Rich. Do you ever fish in fast shallow water?
Hi David. With bucktails, not recently. Back on Long Island years ago there were some unusual spots I would use a light bucktail in shallow fast water, but the sprcies I fish for typically don't spend too much time there. No reason why they wouldn't work though. I'll try and fit some bucktailing into my fishing schedule late fall if my head doesn't start spinning again lol.
Wealth of knowledge here. Thank you.
I do similar fishing on a kayak too and this is going to help me both shore and yak.
How do you feel about tying direct using a kreh's loop? Supposedly gives the jig more action, but I'm wondering if the feel will be difference than the palomar for the purposes described at the end of the video.
Once again, swamped with work so I apologize for the late reply. Thanks for the kind words and for watching. I don'y like any kind of loop or clip on a bucktail. A bucktail doesn't need more action and the loop removes the all important feel. When tied direct, I can feel a fish swim by my bucktail or feel the inhale before the bump bump. I can also feel the slight change of current right next to the bottom and that helps me avoid snags. The action comes from the trailer, in most cases pork rind. It's what provides the vibration and action. So the short version, keep it simple, particularly in deep, fast water. 100% breaking strength, easy to tie, palomar knot. Be well and stay safe.
@@richtroxler Interesting insight. Those are good reasons for me to switch back.
Though I must say, for jigging 3/8oz and under the loop gives the bucktail a noticeable flutter.
For light jigs, I agree, especially if jigging for Fluke on sand bottom.
I love the in-depth step by step approaches and tactics in this video. 💪💪💪👍🔥When I started to think about the title of the video in regards to "deep water/ fast currents", how deep (depth) of water would you say at most? Between 20-50 feet ?
Max depth was around 20 feet. The current rips pretty good through here, so that's a big factor. You don't get much reaction time on the bottom before you're hung.
@@richtroxler I see. That's great to know. Thank you. Could this approach be applied the same when using 30 lb mono or is it preferred to use 50 lb for better buoyancy and control?
It can, but with the lesser diameter, you lose some of the water resistance ergo, some of the lift or buoyancy. Still better than braid.
Hey Rich, thanks for the great video. Can you fish flare hawks in a similar manner?
I don't see any reason why not. Unfortunately, was out of commission again for a while, so for now I'm just trying to get caught up on responding to everyone and trying to finish up on some new content and other stuff. Thanks for hanging in there with me and I'll get this thing going again.
@@richtroxler Thanks for the reply! You make some really great videos!!
Hey rich this is a super old video, but I just wanted to thank you. I grew up fishing with my dad and took a long break in my childhood due to some issues going on in my family. Im getting back into it now that I'm in the Richmond va area. I am about to try my hand at some bass when the season opens up Jan 1st. it seems like there will be some warm days. I also wanted to hear your opinion on one of my major takeaways from your videos. Fish like contrast. the contrast in current, structure, movement, or lighting. do you think that is a reasonable statement?
Hi Matt. Glad to hear you're getting back into fishing. It's a great was to disconnect from the craziness in the world lol. Your statement is reasonable in a general sense but there's a little more to it than that. I would change the word "like" to "use" or "are drawn to" because these things are utilized for different purposes such as resting, active feeding, hiding, or avoiding being eaten. One fishes disadvantage is another fishes advantage. But yes, in general I would say your statement is a good starting point as opposed to just going to the waters edge and spiking a rod. It's good that you are thinking, for it is knowledge that catches fish, not the latest rod, reel or plug. Thanks for watching and have a pleasant holiday season.
your videos are wonderful
so i looked at google maps and saw a few no fishing signs along the area you called "the wall" (wolf***** channel) how do you avoid problems while fishing the opposite bank of the signs? this video is not that old so these changes may be recent.
Not entirely sure you are looking at the right place. The "wall" is not really a secret fishing place as access is allowed on the side I was fishing. The other side has no fishing signs on it however. It's either Long Creek or Broad Channel, not sure what they call that section. That being said, I pretty much made my career fishing places that "technically" you were not allowed to fish at, or on lol. Mostly night stealth ops.
I'm from Hampton road. Where is the bridge you talking about in this video I wanna try the place out. I have try other pace with Bucktail but have not look. Thanks in advance
West Great Neck Road, where it crosses over Long Creek in Virginia Beach.
Im headed out this morning cant figure out where to go. Last week I got a lot of Striper hits under that bridge on Chartreuse Gulp Swimming mullet. But some guy said he catches more at Rudee flipping docks. I never catch anything at rudee and I just got some D.O.A shrimps and I think throwing them in that fast water column at Seawall would be a winner but there are more options at Rudee what do you think. Im ubering it so wherever I go is where I stay lol.
The place I shot this video at "The Wall" is deep and fast, so it is a very different animal than fishing fishing Rudee and Lake Wesley. When fishing the wall, most of the bass you'll catch will be near the bottom, typically lying behind whatever hump on the bottom they can find. They're not going to burn calories just swimming around in that current mid-depth or near the surface, unless they are really actively feeding on something that is located there. So at the wall, you have to fish heavy jigs / bucks on heavier gear, and put it in their face. Other than the inlet proper, Rudee is fairly low current and the area around the docks is not very deep, so much lighter heads and baits can be used. This is a much better place for 1/2 oz heads with Gulp 4" Mullets. As for where, when I fish from my kayak, some docks will have them and some won't, so you have to move around a lot to find them.
Hey Rich...will these techniques translate into fishing the crazy swift waters of most dams?
Sorry for the late reply, was away for a couple weeks. Hi Reginald. Depending on the depth of the water and the speed of the current, I see no reason at all why you couldn't bucktail the bottom if you scale your equipment and baits up to match the conditions. If the water is really deep, say more than 40 feet, then you would basically be forced to go with braid, but if the current is swift, it may actually provide a better feel for the bottom than mono. It always comes down to conditions and what the bottom structure is. If it's totally snaggy, then you may have to use mono and the count down method to get close to the bottom without actually ticking it. You'll lose a few bucktails until you dial in, so maybe just start with equivalent weights first. They're cheaper if you lose one lol. Thanks for watching.
bucktail level: genius
Thank you Adam. I do love fishing them.
What is the water that appears to be more shiny ?
Changes in water depth probably, but little bursts of ripply water usually means the water is running over a rock or some other bottom obstruction.
Good ole virginia beach
My stomping grounds for the past 10 years, since I left Long Island. I love Lynnhaven inlet and bay from my kayak, and Drum from the beach in the fall.
Tied direct for the conventional?
Yes, palomar knot. The simpler, the better.
richtroxler you should write a book man.
I might some day when I have the time.
richtroxler I would definitely buy one. Have you seen the going price of demaio's book?
Haven't really. I own a copy, one of the few fishing books I own. I fished with John a few times many, many years ago. Interesting character.
Got to live va beach
Yup. You are no doubt from the area. Are you a TKAA member?
billy the greek style
My style. There are things we do the same and a lot of things we do different. We've always exchanged ideas.
Is there anyway that I could contact you by email? I really need help fishing the beaches near me I'm new to the surf and need some tips, I can send you pics of where I am fishing. Thanks
+Antonio Berry I can take a look, BUT, I'll need to know the exact locations(s) you are inquiring about so that I can look them up on Bing maps myself. Many times it takes several different view angles to show the stuff I'm looking for. Message me through youtube and I'll give you my email address.
107ups and 0 down. Well let me be the first
Yup, there's always one.