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I personally wouldn't mind if there was a hard one or two year sabbatical from red fishing entirely but it would need to be a non revocable, non re-negotiable, non extendable, one or two years. Just rip the bandaid off and be done, two years no keeps, two year 3 bag limit, then back to standard 4 +1.
Texas is heading there now! I personally think it’s BS ! Man better quit trying to play god! Their sample creels are taken from the worse places to make a point!
I’ll always throw back more than I keep. I love the look on people’s face when I get back to the launch with my sight stand and when they ask I tell them the number of reds I caught. Then they’re even more shocked when they see no ice chest because I’ve tagged them all and threw them back.
The thing they need to do and didn't do was outlaw/limit Bow fishing at night. This is shooting fish in a barrel and then they throw back fish that are not big enough which kills them any way .
Very intriguing insight. To add, I think it’s a misnomer to call it bow fishing, more like bow hunting for fish…..trapped in a pond usually. As well, the pogey boats might only be killing 2 percent of total reds annually but more like 20% plus of bull reds killed annually. Great piece!
Your assessment of The Freshining is spot on. I have been fishing Hopedale since the mid 90s, and the marsh in that area is MUCH fresher now than it was 10 years ago. There are ponds that are choked with grass that used to not have any grass in them. My observations have mirrored yours.
Redfish can only reproduce at an older age than trout so they are far easier to overfish if especially older fish are targeted. A way to do this is slot limits.
Did he mention overall chemical pollution from countless refineries, factories, gmo graineries, pesticides, fertilizers, etc? All that come with the freshening, also.
I actually kind of agree with this. I agree with the freshening quite a bit because I was an avid catfish fisherman during the spring floods. Those floods stopped being as high about 2 years ago. Is there a chance that this has coincided with a bumper crop of 16-18 in redfish. But if we want these stocks to be healthy. We need to cut pogy/croaker bottom trawl/fishing. If we can get croakers up to a gamefish level. Say 12in min. We can add another gamefish to our list of delicious targets.
When I was a kid in Florida redfish were pretty rare. The state closed the harvest for years. Between that and banning commercial netting in state waters, the reds made a comeback.
I'm an offshore boat for over 40 years and every time I seen a Pokey boat raise his nets I passed through a school of dead red fish as long the eye could see.
16 is way too small even an 18 inch red the fillets are small, 22 to 24in is perfect eating. I live in Florida it’s been one Red 18 to 27 for at least 20 years. I fish Louisiana every year and am impressed with the incredible fisheries, the fishing is 10 times better than where I live in Florida. But seeing videos of boatloads of Reds and trout I’m not sure how Louisiana has been able to sustain that? And anything over 27in is not good eating …
I have to disagree with ya , the rat reds are a much better taste fish. The big ones have that bid blood line that ya gotta cut out or bleed out, to much trouble. But I'm an old timer ,fished back when the reds and specks were plentiful ,along with as many shrimp and crabs as you could eat and save for the off season.
Texas is in a recovery mode mainly due to the freeze kills. Limits keep getting smaller and so do slots. Your scenario makes a lot more sense. Haven’t heard anyone in the Corpus area talking about what you are seeing. Appreciate your in-depth research!
It sounds like maybe the people in the comments might be to young to remember the almost total Redfish population wipeout after the blackened Redfish Cajun recipe. Redfish became a commercial species and were netted by the tons from Texas through all of Florida. They banned commercial fishing and in some places recreational fishing. Now the Redfish population is healthy but still needs to be regulated to a degree. The limit should be 2with0 bull reds.
I travel to Louisiana 2-3 times a year to fish for trout and reds. It takes me 5-6 hours to get there and we usually make it a 3 or 4 day trip. I spend thousands in gas, licenses accommodations, tackle, bait, ice, food, etc.. all of which goes back into the Louisiana economy. I have been doing this for decades. I'll tell you one thing though.. if they ever lowered it down to 2 fish a day, I would stop immediately, and so would a lot of people. I typically take my father down with me so over a 3 or 4 day trip we would be able to take home 12 to 16 reds..? thats not even close to worth it.. I'm all for conservation, but I would say what they have done is plenty.
@@locstar9692 Years ago I would drive to Red Lake in northwestern Ontario every year for a week fishing trip and for an entire week you were only allowed to bring home a one day limit (which is very low). If we want to have healthy populations for future generations then we need to keep protecting fish. Fishing vacations are about getting away and having fun not to be only interested in the most meat you can obtain.
@@locstar9692 And how the hell are you spending thousands for 3-4days. My trips to Canada still cost about 2500 dollars. This includes all lodging, the boat and the fuel for it, all the bait all the food and the travel from northern Florida almost two thousand miles north and back. And that's total for 2 people.
They need to shut down now fishing ASAP! I have seen a steady decrease in redfish in the marsh since its started getting popular. And i know for a fact these bow guides when the water is cloudy intentional muddy the waters with their surface drives to make the fish float up to let their customers shoot the dieing fish. It needs to shut down.
The ten year plan was the best plan to me. I love how people make it sound like they are fishing to feed their family. Most people spend more money on lures/bait or gas than it would be to buy chicken or ground beef at the grocery store.
@@coreytohme9861 making it law because you want to is the bad thing. Also, fish do need culling and keeping limits does benefit the fishery. The fishery is actually based on keeping fish. Ramon noodles are a lot cheaper than elk… maybe no hunting?? I can feed my whole family on redfish and drum with a fishing license, gas, and tackle. It’s cheap if you know how to fish. Do you like paint-balling deer too?
@@Tea4Texas I'm not saying that there should be no harvest. I am not sure why you are trying to make it an all or nothing thing. Maybe you haven't actually read the harvest reports from the state biologists that Devin cited. Maybe you haven't fished in Louisiana long enough to know what it was like ten years ago. Redfish are currently being overharvested. Maybe not by just you or me, but collectively as a whole. Maybe you can feed your family on redfish and I am happy for you, but like I said earlier, over 90% of anglers spend more than $9 (the cost of a 10 pack of chicken thighs ) on every trip.
I think it is great that the wildlife and fisheries is making a conservative change for once in our state. Louisiana has been known for years as a quantity over quality state with regards to hunting and fishing. Now I hope this trend will spill over to deer hunting and freshwater fishing. It’s time that we stop taking a back seat to the surrounding states.
I'm in Florida and in my region you are allowed 1 redfish per day 18-27 inches in length. They need to do a limit like that to really make a difference I feel like. However due to all of the factors in you mentioned the change will be minuscule at first and for a long time it will be slow.
I agree, the generous bag limits previously available in LA are gonna have to be aggressively changed in order to somewhat resemble a "Sportsman's Paradise" anymore. I'm surprised they haven't already started stocking Redfish like they do here in TX. Seems like they should have started doing that years ago, but what do I know?
I'm glad LA is reducing its bag limits. As a Texan the limits over there have always seemed egregious. There's even talk here of going from 3 to 2, and I support that. Our 2021 freeze was particularly detrimental to the fishery, and I think proactive measures are needed to promote a faster recovery. Anecdotally, the flounder season was closed from NOV-JAN in Texas and I think the flounder fishing overall has gotten much better. I seldom used to catch them as a plastic chunker for reds and trout and now I regularly catch one a day which is a lot for me. My hope is that these reductions in bag limits will mitigate the need for more extreme measures.
@Tea4Texas if everything was OK the fisheries wouldn't be changing their limits. If we're a little proactive now we can prevent more restrictive measures. I don't want to have a closed season on redfish during the run.
@Tea4Texas correct. My fears should not be laws. That said I think we need to be careful. Overfishing can wipeout a species. It happened to redfish in the 80's. Now there are more people than ever fishing the coast as evidenced by license sales. The trout limits have already been reduced. Meat haulers may turn to reds to sell trips or post on social media. It's a mindset we need to change. I like to keep some every now and again, but I'd much rather catch them than eat them.
@@LDQBBQ no other regulations change but limits. When playing with a fish becomes more important than eating it… it’s time one look for others forms of entertainment.
Spent four days in Lafitte for the 4th. Had some of the best redfish action in awhile. Had 16 keepers. One undersized throw back an six or seven bull throw backs
One of the worst attacks on the redfish population is illegal gill netting in the waterway canals. Gill netters getting back in the marsh areas and blocking the whole width of the canals. They then sell them to restaurants, etc. I've had days when I could easily catch 20 or more redfish in a day back in the canals / marsh, then finding out gill netters had been there since the last time I went fishing. Next trips would result in 0 - 5 per 8 hour day. By the way.. I wasn't keeping my 5 most trips. This also was killing the Spec fishing as well. Stop the poachers and reduce the limit more, as you suggested, or the Redfish fishery is gone!
Similar stuff to what’s going on in North Carolina with Flounder. Just because we are still catching them doesn’t mean the population isn’t overfished or that recruitment isn’t bad
I'm happy that it's 4. I wish it was 3. The pogey boats, though....they gotta go. As far as bow fishing, I'm not a fan, but as long as they follow the laws...because you know, there are soooo many LDWF agents out there at night. I really wish the trout would have went down to about 10. I'm a charter guide, but I understand conservation.
Land erosion in key areas are hurting us too , the habitat in those salty areas are almost all gone , from the mouth of the Mississippi on the west side to Myrtle Grove has disappeared and the same thing on the east side has happened , land erosion
I’m with you man. I wish they could do more to protect redfish. I’m afraid the only way to save redfish is get some money flowing to some politicians and have it directly associated with redfish 🤷🏼♂️
I'm in Florida and the limit is 1 per person between 18"-27". Spotted sea trout 15"-19" 3 per person. Mangrove Snapper 5 per person. And many more fish that the size and bag limits have been reduced. Offshore fishing bag limits for grouper and snapper are laughably low and none of them are in season at the same time. The rules change so often I can't keep up with them. They about have it to the point going fishing isn't even worth it.
@@haroldsfishingadventures754 These people are after fishing and will not stop until we stop fishing. Government agencies don’t want to pay for our recreation.
I could agree on 2 per person if we could still keep 1 bull red. I know plenty of people who feed there whole family with one bull and 2 smaller ones. I personally believe we have a bull red problem because they are everywhere in south Louisiana and I think they are over eating. You can catch 25 bull reds a day at the causeway but none under 28.
In Florida your aloud 1 fish 18 to 27 inches and it's the same gulf were saving them so yall can keep them. It the same gulf so if you can keep 5 it should 5 anywhere in the gulf
Need to limit bow fishing to a few weeks . In the year. The pogey boats need to have a limited season and pay a restoration fee for the redfish they will kill. There also needs to be a study done on the pogey harvesters and how many breeder reds and other sport fish are being killed. These boats if they are causing major kills may need to be put on a limited season.. as far as the bow fishing,again they kill a small red they must keep it and count it in the creel limit. I know I’m probably going to get blow back but I believe that needs to be done.
They should not allow bowfishing for game fish period. If you going to allow it it should be limited it from April to end of September when the ducks start to migrate to our coastal waters.
Nice video, Devin. Largely agree with your assessment. My one question is regarding the percentage of redfish mortality via pogy boats. I’d like to know how the LDWF arrived at allocating the roughly 2% mortality attributed to the menhaden industry when it’s my understanding that said industry isn’t legally required to report what and how much it has killed as bycatch? Sounds kinda fishy.
I'm not sure, either. But I do know that killing menhaden is the worst thing for the entire fishery. The dead bull reds are bad, too. I get it. But that pales in comparison to the dead menhaden. Dead bull reds are shiny, jangly car keys for people to focus on (or get distracted). Otherwise there's 100+ years of history showing what happens to fisheries when the menhaden are removed. They completely and totally collapse. If people could grasp that then they'd be more up in arms than they already are. Thank you for watching, and thank you for commenting!
I’m not trying to look like a dumbass but what if they just ban keeping trout and reds for year? Surely it would have nothing but a positive impact the question is how worth it. I’m sure everyone would freak out, but when Devin said the year 2050 I started laughing. Something will go wrong between here and then.
ohhhhh what a shame that we are keeping the big breeders with good genetic in the waters.... Yeah sound crazy too me to be complaining about something that's literally there for the betterment of the fishery. As Some one that grew up in Louisiana but have fishing literally around the world (thanks navy) i can say we have always kinda been behind most states in the Quality department for big inshore species. One that really stands out to me is FL where it felt like they had no small trout at all. I crushed my PB multiple times with in the 3 years I lived there. So i 1000000000000000000% support way stricter limits because i feel so man people take way more then they need and that natural resource is not just for you its for everyone.
After years of watching fishing and bag limits get worse in Florida I can say you are going down the wrong path. When the environment is healthy it produces more fish than you can imagine so many you can’t catch them, when otherwise no fish to catch. Natural and man made events cause poor environment. One thing you need to take a close look at is nutrient levels in your water, remember the best way we have found to quickly remove nutrient levels from water is catch fish like pogies The pogy industry is probably keeping your water quality from really going down, you don’t control run off from half of the US but you can remove tens of thousands of pounds of phosphorus and nitrogen by catching forage fish. My guess is that pre fertilizer use in farming your pogy population was a small fraction of what you now have. The system is very complicated don’t be so quick to try simple solutions. Also red fish are very easy to spawn and stock you could create a huge fishery if spawning is the issue.
I believe coastal erosion is 80% of the problem I honestly don’t think fresh water is a problem back in the 80s we had more fresh water and more land in the 80s. I don’t have a problem with the limit I have a problem with everyone ignoring the obvious massive Louisiana land lost I mainly target redfish don’t keep the bull reds and prefer the 16-18 best eating ones also you said your self redfish spawn in fresh brackish water where did they spawn back in the 1900s when the river water was pouring on our coast
I live/fish in LA. I’d be happy with a 2 slot fish limit per day per angler with a license. No bulls. No guide limits. I mean - what’s the purpose of slaying a bunch more. If it’s me and the wife and we get four slots that’s a nice day fishing and some good eating. By the way I’d rather eat specs.
@@livewithnick For the great majority of anglers that harvest redfish, they are not doing it to feed their family. I am not saying it doesn't happen, but anyone that uses a boat (probably 90% of harvested redfish) is spending more money than it would cost to go to the local grocery store and pick up some chicken. Chasing the minority of impact isn't going to help the redfish population - you need to change the largest group that is making the most impact.
luck when it comes to this if you really believe in it, then what we should do is a temporary closing of the season two years stop red fishing for two years in the state of Louisiana. You don’t have to have a Harvard degree to figure that a two-year hiatus would cheer the problem, it could put it right back on track with the stocks that are left by 2027 they would it be an abundance of redfish when left alone nature has a way of fixing itself if there really is a problem that’s how you fix it I can tell you prior to the BP oil spill I could fish anywhere from quarantine bay all the way north to Lake born and I never had an issue with catching redfish. I only seen a drop in the catch after that disaster, and then it was made increasingly worth like you said by the freshening, not just the flood of 2016 up here on the North Shore, but the bigger damage was done I believe my opinion from the opening of the spillway. I think we pretty much agree. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. I’ve been critical of you in the past, but when you’re right, you’re right, I would still like to know how many charters are in our state.
17:00 I just want to reiterate, you’re only as good as accurate as the information given to you we see what the government likes to do. It’s playing out in our faces every day politically did you know the Texas wildlife and fisheries were recently Weaponized they went after Ted Nugent they went to one of his ranches took test said that they had chronic wasting disease killed all of his animals and then called him back and told him oops your animals weren’t sick now if that’s not Weaponized mean I don’t know what would be so the reason I say that is remember the information you’re reading comes from one of the same governmental agencies. It’s not being crazy. It’s being cautious.
I’m ok with the new limits as long as they are enforced. Too many meat hunters in LA that keep everything regardless of creel limits and get away with it. Most of the time I catch and release and only keep some when I want fresh fish for the grill. Bow fishing has been the main detriment to the redfish population in my opinion.
@@captaindevin to be honest I enjoy eating most fish but enjoy the chase and fight of the redfish, I keep only what I plan on eating and could care less what the limit is. All these numbers are just educated guesses, numbers in the past are normally off when it comes to mother nature. Too each his own, its not for everyone to understand. If I'm gonna catch for taste I go offshore lol
It’s not the boats that making a dent in the population. It’s the land base fishermen. I’ve watch land base fishermen keep baby reds and 37 inch bull. Keeping 10 inch trouts and everything.
How many boat fishermen are there compared to bank fishermen? Also, with their limited range, it is impossible for bank fishermen to make a widespread impact of this magnitude.
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Loved the video also Devin ,and want to say thank you for using your platform for conservation efforts , thanks sincerely
I personally wouldn't mind if there was a hard one or two year sabbatical from red fishing entirely but it would need to be a non revocable, non re-negotiable, non extendable, one or two years.
Just rip the bandaid off and be done, two years no keeps, two year 3 bag limit, then back to standard 4 +1.
@captaindevin Well, could be worse- Florida reduced the limit to ONE per angler per day (18-27")
@@kayakjoe on reds ? Wow
Oil spill and hurricanes did not help neither , they should have brought the limit to 3 ; 18 to 24 inches , none even close to 27 inch
Keep catching all you want! And your kids will have Florida’s limits and grandkids will only have stories.
Texas is heading there now! I personally think it’s BS ! Man better quit trying to play god! Their sample creels are taken from the worse places to make a point!
Yeah okay…
@@Familytiesfishing agreed 👍🏻
I’ll always throw back more than I keep. I love the look on people’s face when I get back to the launch with my sight stand and when they ask I tell them the number of reds I caught. Then they’re even more shocked when they see no ice chest because I’ve tagged them all and threw them back.
“Nothing has killed more redfish than dead shrimp on a jig head “ #truth
Exactly, anybody can catch a redfish..
There are so many big reds in brenton sound its amazing but the pogey boats keep killing them
The thing they need to do and didn't do was outlaw/limit Bow fishing at night. This is shooting fish in a barrel and then they throw back fish that are not big enough which kills them any way .
It's a big fish I reckon it should be 2 bag limits.
Remember, limit your catch not catch the limit.
“The Coastal Association” 😂 Spot on brother and I like what you did there
I usually only keep only what I’m going to eat fresh! Throwback the rest, I don’t freeze fish unless it’s offshore fish amber jacks, tuna etc.
You are the minority my friend. Most keep more than they can eat. Just like deer.
You are possibly the only fisherman in Louisiana that doesn’t have fish freezer burned in his freezer! I commend you sir.
@@chadculp5536 yeah, gives me the excuse to go fishing!
Very intriguing insight. To add, I think it’s a misnomer to call it bow fishing, more like bow hunting for fish…..trapped in a pond usually. As well, the pogey boats might only be killing 2 percent of total reds annually but more like 20% plus of bull reds killed annually. Great piece!
Your assessment of The Freshining is spot on. I have been fishing Hopedale since the mid 90s, and the marsh in that area is MUCH fresher now than it was 10 years ago. There are ponds that are choked with grass that used to not have any grass in them. My observations have mirrored yours.
All the fresh hurt the trout fishing here and the guides struggled catching trout so they hammered the redfish for their clients
Redfish spawning is an older fish
@@wallacejeffery5786 Redfish spawning is an older fish ?? Don’t get what ur saying sorry please explain
Redfish can only reproduce at an older age than trout so they are far easier to overfish if especially older fish are targeted. A way to do this is slot limits.
They're not saying you have to catch less fish. You just can't kill as many fish. You don't need a 72 qt Yeti full of fish every time you go out.
You also don’t need to play with fish for fun.
Did he mention overall chemical pollution from countless refineries, factories, gmo graineries, pesticides, fertilizers, etc? All that come with the freshening, also.
Should have made the sizing 16-25”. Reds over ~22” don’t taste as good. Let us keep the fish for dinner.
16 in is way too small even an 18 the fillets are tiny, 22 to 24 in is perfect for eating.
Not true, stop lying
Well said. Thanks for putting in the work to get this information out there.
I actually kind of agree with this. I agree with the freshening quite a bit because I was an avid catfish fisherman during the spring floods. Those floods stopped being as high about 2 years ago. Is there a chance that this has coincided with a bumper crop of 16-18 in redfish. But if we want these stocks to be healthy. We need to cut pogy/croaker bottom trawl/fishing. If we can get croakers up to a gamefish level. Say 12in min. We can add another gamefish to our list of delicious targets.
When I was a kid in Florida redfish were pretty rare. The state closed the harvest for years. Between that and banning commercial netting in state waters, the reds made a comeback.
I'm an offshore boat for over 40 years and every time I seen a Pokey boat raise his nets
I passed through a school of dead red fish as long the eye could see.
16 is way too small even an 18 inch red the fillets are small, 22 to 24in is perfect eating. I live in Florida it’s been one Red 18 to 27 for at least 20 years. I fish Louisiana every year and am impressed with the incredible fisheries, the fishing is 10 times better than where I live in Florida. But seeing videos of boatloads of Reds and trout I’m not sure how Louisiana has been able to sustain that? And anything over 27in is not good eating …
I have to disagree with ya , the rat reds are a much better taste fish. The big ones have that bid blood line that ya gotta cut out or bleed out, to much trouble. But I'm an old timer ,fished back when the reds and specks were plentiful ,along with as many shrimp and crabs as you could eat and save for the off season.
Texas is in a recovery mode mainly due to the freeze kills. Limits keep getting smaller and so do slots. Your scenario makes a lot more sense. Haven’t heard anyone in the Corpus area talking about what you are seeing. Appreciate your in-depth research!
It sounds like maybe the people in the comments might be to young to remember the almost total Redfish population wipeout after the blackened Redfish Cajun recipe.
Redfish became a commercial species and were netted by the tons from Texas through all of Florida.
They banned commercial fishing and in some places recreational fishing. Now the Redfish population is healthy but still needs to be regulated to a degree.
The limit should be 2with0 bull reds.
I travel to Louisiana 2-3 times a year to fish for trout and reds. It takes me 5-6 hours to get there and we usually make it a 3 or 4 day trip. I spend thousands in gas, licenses accommodations, tackle, bait, ice, food, etc.. all of which goes back into the Louisiana economy. I have been doing this for decades. I'll tell you one thing though.. if they ever lowered it down to 2 fish a day, I would stop immediately, and so would a lot of people. I typically take my father down with me so over a 3 or 4 day trip we would be able to take home 12 to 16 reds..? thats not even close to worth it.. I'm all for conservation, but I would say what they have done is plenty.
@@locstar9692
Years ago I would drive to Red Lake in northwestern Ontario every year for a week fishing trip and for an entire week you were only allowed to bring home a one day limit (which is very low). If we want to have healthy populations for future generations then we need to keep protecting fish. Fishing vacations are about getting away and having fun not to be only interested in the most meat you can obtain.
@@locstar9692
And how the hell are you spending thousands for 3-4days. My trips to Canada still cost about 2500 dollars. This includes all lodging, the boat and the fuel for it, all the bait all the food and the travel from northern Florida almost two thousand miles north and back.
And that's total for 2 people.
They need to shut down now fishing ASAP! I have seen a steady decrease in redfish in the marsh since its started getting popular. And i know for a fact these bow guides when the water is cloudy intentional muddy the waters with their surface drives to make the fish float up to let their customers shoot the dieing fish. It needs to shut down.
you know for a fact every single bow fishing guide does it huh? You basically just told everybody you're a liar.
Come to Florida so you can only take ONE per day per person 18-27". No tears for yall here.
Night time bow fishing should be stopped
The ten year plan was the best plan to me. I love how people make it sound like they are fishing to feed their family. Most people spend more money on lures/bait or gas than it would be to buy chicken or ground beef at the grocery store.
You could also knit for fun instead of hooking fish and playing with them. Your logic is flawed
@@Tea4Texas Knitting has nothing to do with fishing; please explain. I do not understand how keeping less fish is a bad thing.
@@coreytohme9861 making it law because you want to is the bad thing. Also, fish do need culling and keeping limits does benefit the fishery. The fishery is actually based on keeping fish.
Ramon noodles are a lot cheaper than elk… maybe no hunting?? I can feed my whole family on redfish and drum with a fishing license, gas, and tackle. It’s cheap if you know how to fish. Do you like paint-balling deer too?
@@Tea4Texas I'm not saying that there should be no harvest. I am not sure why you are trying to make it an all or nothing thing. Maybe you haven't actually read the harvest reports from the state biologists that Devin cited. Maybe you haven't fished in Louisiana long enough to know what it was like ten years ago. Redfish are currently being overharvested. Maybe not by just you or me, but collectively as a whole.
Maybe you can feed your family on redfish and I am happy for you, but like I said earlier, over 90% of anglers spend more than $9 (the cost of a 10 pack of chicken thighs ) on every trip.
I think it is great that the wildlife and fisheries is making a conservative change for once in our state. Louisiana has been known for years as a quantity over quality state with regards to hunting and fishing. Now I hope this trend will spill over to deer hunting and freshwater fishing. It’s time that we stop taking a back seat to the surrounding states.
Too much fresh water for 10 years straight
It will only get worse with the river diversion going into the Myrtle Grove area
I'm in Florida and in my region you are allowed 1 redfish per day 18-27 inches in length. They need to do a limit like that to really make a difference I feel like. However due to all of the factors in you mentioned the change will be minuscule at first and for a long time it will be slow.
I agree, the generous bag limits previously available in LA are gonna have to be aggressively changed in order to somewhat resemble a "Sportsman's Paradise" anymore. I'm surprised they haven't already started stocking Redfish like they do here in TX. Seems like they should have started doing that years ago, but what do I know?
I'm glad LA is reducing its bag limits. As a Texan the limits over there have always seemed egregious. There's even talk here of going from 3 to 2, and I support that. Our 2021 freeze was particularly detrimental to the fishery, and I think proactive measures are needed to promote a faster recovery. Anecdotally, the flounder season was closed from NOV-JAN in Texas and I think the flounder fishing overall has gotten much better. I seldom used to catch them as a plastic chunker for reds and trout and now I regularly catch one a day which is a lot for me. My hope is that these reductions in bag limits will mitigate the need for more extreme measures.
We have plenty of reds… please stop your nonsense.
@Tea4Texas if everything was OK the fisheries wouldn't be changing their limits. If we're a little proactive now we can prevent more restrictive measures. I don't want to have a closed season on redfish during the run.
@@LDQBBQ your fears shouldn’t be law. This is the problem with our society. We should have a 4 fish limit in Texas.
@Tea4Texas correct. My fears should not be laws. That said I think we need to be careful. Overfishing can wipeout a species. It happened to redfish in the 80's. Now there are more people than ever fishing the coast as evidenced by license sales. The trout limits have already been reduced. Meat haulers may turn to reds to sell trips or post on social media. It's a mindset we need to change. I like to keep some every now and again, but I'd much rather catch them than eat them.
@@LDQBBQ no other regulations change but limits. When playing with a fish becomes more important than eating it… it’s time one look for others forms of entertainment.
Spent four days in Lafitte for the 4th. Had some of the best redfish action in awhile. Had 16 keepers. One undersized throw back an six or seven bull throw backs
One of the worst attacks on the redfish population is illegal gill netting in the waterway canals. Gill netters getting back in the marsh areas and blocking the whole width of the canals. They then sell them to restaurants, etc. I've had days when I could easily catch 20 or more redfish in a day back in the canals / marsh, then finding out gill netters had been there since the last time I went fishing. Next trips would result in 0 - 5 per 8 hour day. By the way.. I wasn't keeping my 5 most trips. This also was killing the Spec fishing as well. Stop the poachers and reduce the limit more, as you suggested, or the Redfish fishery is gone!
Yep!! Go ahead and close down ALL fishing and ALL hunting for 2-3 years. Then we'll see a bounce back.
That's exactly what the WEF is pushing for, they're trying to get people to stop eating meat in place of lab produced meat and veggie burgers
In Florida the bag limit is only one per person, 18” - 27"
If the saltening is going to falsely reassure them that the new limits are working. False equivalency.
Similar stuff to what’s going on in North Carolina with Flounder. Just because we are still catching them doesn’t mean the population isn’t overfished or that recruitment isn’t bad
I'm happy that it's 4. I wish it was 3. The pogey boats, though....they gotta go. As far as bow fishing, I'm not a fan, but as long as they follow the laws...because you know, there are soooo many LDWF agents out there at night. I really wish the trout would have went down to about 10. I'm a charter guide, but I understand conservation.
Does Louisiana stock reds like how TN/NC stock trout etc? I love catching redfish and pomp’s, saltwater fishing is awesome
is there a good app to download so that on any given day I can look at water clarity before heading out?
At least it’s not 1 red like it is here in North Carolina
Land erosion in key areas are hurting us too , the habitat in those salty areas are almost all gone , from the mouth of the Mississippi on the west side to Myrtle Grove has disappeared and the same thing on the east side has happened , land erosion
I agree that a 3 fish limit 18_24 inch slot is the way To go I will follow this limit regardless others will do so
I’m with you man. I wish they could do more to protect redfish. I’m afraid the only way to save redfish is get some money flowing to some politicians and have it directly associated with redfish 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe start a nonprofit to chum up the next campaign donations
Careful or you will be in a no harvest. Mosquito lagoon is no harvest of redfish. Sucks
I'm in Florida and the limit is 1 per person between 18"-27". Spotted sea trout 15"-19" 3 per person. Mangrove Snapper 5 per person. And many more fish that the size and bag limits have been reduced. Offshore fishing bag limits for grouper and snapper are laughably low and none of them are in season at the same time. The rules change so often I can't keep up with them.
They about have it to the point going fishing isn't even worth it.
Starting in December in NC, all catches of red drum, speckled trout, flounder and a couple others have to be reported
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These people are after fishing and will not stop until we stop fishing. Government agencies don’t want to pay for our recreation.
I could agree on 2 per person if we could still keep 1 bull red. I know plenty of people who feed there whole family with one bull and 2 smaller ones. I personally believe we have a bull red problem because they are everywhere in south Louisiana and I think they are over eating. You can catch 25 bull reds a day at the causeway but none under 28.
In Florida your aloud 1 fish 18 to 27 inches and it's the same gulf were saving them so yall can keep them. It the same gulf so if you can keep 5 it should 5 anywhere in the gulf
How many fish do you need per day?
Ya, in Florida we can keep 1. In some zones, they can't keep any.
Glad to hear it Louisiana fisherman keep way too many fish period.specks,reds ,sheepshead.Honestly you will be glad in a few years
Need to limit bow fishing to a few weeks . In the year. The pogey boats need to have a limited season and pay a restoration fee for the redfish they will kill. There also needs to be a study done on the pogey harvesters and how many breeder reds and other sport fish are being killed. These boats if they are causing major kills may need to be put on a limited season..
as far as the bow fishing,again they kill a small red they must keep it and count it in the creel limit.
I know I’m probably going to get blow back but I believe that needs to be done.
They should not allow bowfishing for game fish period. If you going to allow it it should be limited it from April to end of September when the ducks start to migrate to our coastal waters.
Nice video, Devin. Largely agree with your assessment. My one question is regarding the percentage of redfish mortality via pogy boats. I’d like to know how the LDWF arrived at allocating the roughly 2% mortality attributed to the menhaden industry when it’s my understanding that said industry isn’t legally required to report what and how much it has killed as bycatch? Sounds kinda fishy.
I'm not sure, either. But I do know that killing menhaden is the worst thing for the entire fishery. The dead bull reds are bad, too. I get it. But that pales in comparison to the dead menhaden. Dead bull reds are shiny, jangly car keys for people to focus on (or get distracted). Otherwise there's 100+ years of history showing what happens to fisheries when the menhaden are removed. They completely and totally collapse. If people could grasp that then they'd be more up in arms than they already are.
Thank you for watching, and thank you for commenting!
In Texas I blame the lack of blue crabs on the states over stocking of redfish.
I’m not trying to look like a dumbass but what if they just ban keeping trout and reds for year? Surely it would have nothing but a positive impact the question is how worth it. I’m sure everyone would freak out, but when Devin said the year 2050 I started laughing. Something will go wrong between here and then.
I gotta lmao at anyone that says the year 2050, most us will be dead by then, don't even know what tomorrow holds
Should be a limit of 3. Love new refs, and still crazy generous. I can’t believe LA ever allowed guides to catch limits and 1 over 27”.
This video was freaking incredible! 😂
Oceanfront states shouldn't be allowed to export to interior states. They have catfish and crappie they should eat.
I don't salt water fish anymore but they could have went 5 fish limit and made slot 16-24 anything bigger doesn't eat as well
So is it fair to me to travel 3 to 4 hours to fish and then travel 3 to 4 hours to get home for 4 fish
Is the limit factor a result of federal counts being seriously off reality?
I never keep more than one. One five to seven pounder is more than enough for me to eat. Anything else is gluttony.
Great job
ohhhhh what a shame that we are keeping the big breeders with good genetic in the waters.... Yeah sound crazy too me to be complaining about something that's literally there for the betterment of the fishery. As Some one that grew up in Louisiana but have fishing literally around the world (thanks navy) i can say we have always kinda been behind most states in the Quality department for big inshore species. One that really stands out to me is FL where it felt like they had no small trout at all. I crushed my PB multiple times with in the 3 years I lived there. So i 1000000000000000000% support way stricter limits because i feel so man people take way more then they need and that natural resource is not just for you its for everyone.
Back in rhe day the limit was limited because of the blackened redfish explosion.
After years of watching fishing and bag limits get worse in Florida I can say you are going down the wrong path. When the environment is healthy it produces more fish than you can imagine so many you can’t catch them, when otherwise no fish to catch. Natural and man made events cause poor environment. One thing you need to take a close look at is nutrient levels in your water, remember the best way we have found to quickly remove nutrient levels from water is catch fish like pogies The pogy industry is probably keeping your water quality from really going down, you don’t control run off from half of the US but you can remove tens of thousands of pounds of phosphorus and nitrogen by catching forage fish. My guess is that pre fertilizer use in farming your pogy population was a small fraction of what you now have. The system is very complicated don’t be so quick to try simple solutions. Also red fish are very easy to spawn and stock you could create a huge fishery if spawning is the issue.
Exactly. They want simple solutions… like just stop fishing.
Bro I don’t wanna hear it we can only keep 3 specs 15-20 inches in Texas and 3 reds a day and 1 bull a year lol
I believe coastal erosion is 80% of the problem I honestly don’t think fresh water is a problem back in the 80s we had more fresh water and more land in the 80s. I don’t have a problem with the limit I have a problem with everyone ignoring the obvious massive Louisiana land lost I mainly target redfish don’t keep the bull reds and prefer the 16-18 best eating ones also you said your self redfish spawn in fresh brackish water where did they spawn back in the 1900s when the river water was pouring on our coast
They should outlaw bowfishing for the reds.
Our 16 inch population dropped because of 2 consecutive years of near 0 hatch because of low salinity. That gap has already been filled js
It’s 1 in the Florida panhandle
It’s easy for clueless fisherman to be mad at good fisherman. They get jealous and want to limit other peoples fun. Old as time.
I live/fish in LA. I’d be happy with a 2 slot fish limit per day per angler with a license. No bulls. No guide limits. I mean - what’s the purpose of slaying a bunch more. If it’s me and the wife and we get four slots that’s a nice day fishing and some good eating. By the way I’d rather eat specs.
what about people trying to feed a family of 5 and most are too young to catch a fish? Your situation doesnt mirror everybody elses.
@@livewithnick For the great majority of anglers that harvest redfish, they are not doing it to feed their family. I am not saying it doesn't happen, but anyone that uses a boat (probably 90% of harvested redfish) is spending more money than it would cost to go to the local grocery store and pick up some chicken. Chasing the minority of impact isn't going to help the redfish population - you need to change the largest group that is making the most impact.
@@livewithnick they have grocery stores?
Look what’s going on with the Bass , FFS and Live will ruin bass fishing
Go to Texas. It'll make you more grateful. Texas is tripping.
luck when it comes to this if you really believe in it, then what we should do is a temporary closing of the season two years stop red fishing for two years in the state of Louisiana. You don’t have to have a Harvard degree to figure that a two-year hiatus would cheer the problem, it could put it right back on track with the stocks that are left by 2027 they would it be an abundance of redfish when left alone nature has a way of fixing itself if there really is a problem that’s how you fix it I can tell you prior to the BP oil spill I could fish anywhere from quarantine bay all the way north to Lake born and I never had an issue with catching redfish. I only seen a drop in the catch after that disaster, and then it was made increasingly worth like you said by the freshening, not just the flood of 2016 up here on the North Shore, but the bigger damage was done I believe my opinion from the opening of the spillway. I think we pretty much agree. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. I’ve been critical of you in the past, but when you’re right, you’re right, I would still like to know how many charters are in our state.
4 is plenty for goodness sake, hell 2 is tons of meat to eat
Let’s not forget about the hurricanes that have absolutely obliterated our fragile marsh lands
Bow Fishing regulation!!!!!! Same as gill letters in late 80's.
Oil!!!! Kills!!!
Just put deck hands out of work 😢
They need to stop bow hunting.
17:00 I just want to reiterate, you’re only as good as accurate as the information given to you we see what the government likes to do. It’s playing out in our faces every day politically did you know the Texas wildlife and fisheries were recently Weaponized they went after Ted Nugent they went to one of his ranches took test said that they had chronic wasting disease killed all of his animals and then called him back and told him oops your animals weren’t sick now if that’s not Weaponized mean I don’t know what would be so the reason I say that is remember the information you’re reading comes from one of the same governmental agencies. It’s not being crazy. It’s being cautious.
Quit whining you get more than Texas!😆
I’m ok with the new limits as long as they are enforced. Too many meat hunters in LA that keep everything regardless of creel limits and get away with it. Most of the time I catch and release and only keep some when I want fresh fish for the grill. Bow fishing has been the main detriment to the redfish population in my opinion.
Come to NC then complain about your limits...
stop burdening the weekend fisherpersons with the limits!!! I HAVE SEEN THE WATER below venice copper colored from so many redfish.
just throw some catfish or other species in the cooler if you want to keep a bunch of food. Louisiana has very generous limits
A lot of people drive right past a lot of crappie and blue cats to chase worm-laden trout and reds. I understand the sport, but the meat not so much.
@@captaindevin to be honest I enjoy eating most fish but enjoy the chase and fight of the redfish, I keep only what I plan on eating and could care less what the limit is. All these numbers are just educated guesses, numbers in the past are normally off when it comes to mother nature. Too each his own, its not for everyone to understand. If I'm gonna catch for taste I go offshore lol
It’s not the boats that making a dent in the population. It’s the land base fishermen. I’ve watch land base fishermen keep baby reds and 37 inch bull. Keeping 10 inch trouts and everything.
How many boat fishermen are there compared to bank fishermen? Also, with their limited range, it is impossible for bank fishermen to make a widespread impact of this magnitude.
Funny yall need salt and Texas desperately needs fresh water
Fishing in Louisiana has gone down hill , if you ask me they should shut it down for a few years