@@Durio_zibethinus Depends on what you mean. For 50mm equiv, Fuji has the 35mm f2 and the 35mm f1.4, while Sony has the 35mm f1.8 and the Sigma 30mm f1.4. For a 50mm focal length lens, Fuji has the 50mm f2 and 56mm f1.2 while Sony has the 50mm f1.8 and the Sigma 56mm f1.4.
Fuji has a better selection of lenses, and allows you to buy cheap (XC) or quality (XF). Sony has more stabilized lenses, but they tend to be pricey for their level of quality. I chose Sony for the smaller 18-135mm zoom for travel. It's a fantastic combo.
The answer is simple. The choice depends on whether you're a Fuji or Sony guy. Both are just perfect and, believe me, the more we use a camera, the less flaws we find in it, perhaps more in ourselves.
Quang Nguyen not necessarily true. A lot of this are for people moving on to their first mirrorless interchangeable lens camera and looking for something inexpensive. What might drive their purchase is the feature set... not brand necessarily.
@@airdailyx totally agree with you on the case of a mirrorless starter. In my case, just somehow I picked an a6500 back then without much comparison with Fujifilm or Olympus. Although I found many things that my camera has not been good at, it inspired me to shoot everyday and to find a way to get better photos each time. I really loved it more and more along the way. Maybe I was born a Sony guy ^^
The thing is these cameras are not for starters, these are fairly enthusiast grade models that cost beyond a thousand dollars with basic kit lens. So most buyers will already have a brand they're a bit loyal and comfortable with. So I totally agree with OP. Both are wonderful cameras, and choice is basically dependent on whether you prefer Sony or Fuji. And the real starter mirrorless camera? Well that's the wonderful Canon M50 at 500 bucks, half these cameras, with an EVF better than both these 1000$ cameras and a better LCD quality and articulation, better wifi/wireless system for instant sharing, and a much cheaper lens selection than any of these companies with the amazing 22 + 32 + 50 trio plus that lovely 11-22!
Both are great. Had a6000 and replaced it for the Fuji - the form factor and design just makes you want to grab it more often, the film simulations are wonderful and the dials are so fun to use. My 2 cents.
Ryan Huddleston congratulations ryan. How is the handling of the camera? Which lenses are you using with it? If you have attached hand grip, does the camera feel heavy?
Stupid question, but the 4k video limit is just referring to files, right? I can record a scene for an hour and then stitch the files together for a continuous scene? Do you know what the file size of a 4k 10 bit video is (10 minute segment)?
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The analog controls on the Fujifilm are fantastic. I use the camera, almost never having to go into the menus. The camera is intuitive, the quality it stellar. Sony must be a good product, but I'll keep the Fujifilm.
I was almost sold on geting a Sony a6400, but now I'm taking a hard look at the XT-30. I am at a point thwere I have to start (again) to get new glass, and used to have Canon DSLR before. Bu tI like the line up of Fuji glass (especially the small prime lenses), and the looks and control layout of the Fuji bring me back to the first 35mm film rangefinder camera I bought at a pawn shop when I first started in photography. The images on the Fuji also look great off the box, so it would make things easier, and let you concentrate on shooting, rather than having to spend a lot of time on post processing. WIth the Sony, though the weather sealing and auto-focus are unbeatable, but ultimately, I do like the looks of the Fuji (I like teh look of teh XE-3 a bit more, but the XT-30 is pretty in the silver or black colors). I'd go with a silver Fuji XT-30....
I went wth the Fuji. I'm a beginner. I wanted a camera that was versatile and gave me room to grow. The menu is really straight forward and the dials aid my learning. Its fun to play with and encourages me to shoot. Didn't cost an arm and a leg either.
I owned both xt20 and xt30. When i first hold the xt20 2 years ago, i was not please with the ergo and handgrip. It's too light, plasticky, and not stable to hold. But with time, i learned to appreciate its shortcomings. Because xt20 is small in size, it wont receive as much attention. Because xt20 is light, i can shot all day long without hurting my shoulder muscle. Its shortcomings are its strength and that's why i'm buying the new xt30.
5:23 I wish Fuji would finally get rid of the x-trans. It was a fun novelty, but it's time to move on. It's not any sharper than a non x-trans sensor. I've had several Fujis with X-trans and I have had many bayer type sensors (have a Fuji and Nikon right now) and my Nikon (Z7) is as or more detailed than the Fuji with reasonably good lenses (JPG or RAW). I just don't see the point in the x-trans anymore. My original X100 (bayer type) was just as detailed as my X100S (x-trans) and the original X100 images appeared more natural. Also as you mentioned, the most popular editing software doesn't handle the x-trans files very well. Having said that, I would still take the X-T30 over the a6400. I had the a6000 in the past and absolutely hated the body style.
Shawn Steuer Or the APS-C sensor/good lens combo of a D500, etc etc. Fuji already uses good sensors and there’s no point in using the X trans arrangement on top of it. They don’t use it on their medium format camera either. I think they’ve marketed themselves into a corner with the x trans hype and have to keep using it or make the admission that it’s really not a big benefit to everybody.
@@shawnsteuer9951 A FF sensor at the same resolution won't be any more or less detailed than an APS-C sensor of the same MP and using a similar quality lens. It's only when you get to 42/45/47/50MP that FF pulls ahead, though it drops down to APS-C quality at the pixel level.
@@shawnsteuer9951 Smaller file size for the bayer sensor type and Lightroom handles the Bayer type files much better (final result looks better with no 'watercolor' effect). My X-Trans files are unusually large compared to a similar megapixel file from a bayer type sensor. I think it would make everyone's lives just a little easier if they switched back to the normal bayer type (easier editing, quicker raw file loading in editing, smaller files). I'm not anti X-trans, I just think it's not necessary and creates too many annoyances in editing. I just looked at my original X100 and X100S files (original X100 is only 12 MP) and I don't see any advantage of the X-trans X100S in my examples compared to my X100 when viewed at 100%
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist I don't know mate Bayer sensors from Sony has slight yellowish green tone, I absolutely hate that but recent Nikon has improved over time, I liked Nikon d7200 colors more but it turned out to be Toshiba sensor. I think Fuji colors are nice with xtrans sensor, Fuji uses Bayer sensor on medium format, in my limited experience with that camera but the colors coming out of the camera is not nice as the xtrans sensor. In raw you may be able to fix it but it takes too much time to get the look you wanted. I have used Sony a6300 it's barely an improvement over xtrans in low light, slightly you can bring details from the shadows, other than that I didn't see any benefit of going to Bayer sensor. Just don't get too much fixated on Bayer if you don't like xtrans you got plenty of option other than fuji, but let us have xtrans for who like it.
Both cameras are awesome! I already own some E-mount lenses for my a6000, so the a6400 upgrade is a no brainer for me. But if I were starting over, I wouldn't have any issues with buying the X-T30 instead.
@blacklizted That is THE ONLY thing that's preventing me to get the Sony - that bloody rolling shutter!! I can live without the ND filter and smaller batteries, but video is my thing, and I toss an turn about this frustrating issue over and over again. So no, it isn't Sony all day every day! Pfftt..
4:00 shuttering on Fuji and then 4:10 shuttering and jello when he moved into camera .. go with Fuji at least u get good pictures Fuji 52mm 1.2 prime is so good
Few years ago, the choice between Sony a6300 and Fuji XT20 was also a difficult one, eventually I decided to take Sony because it's more video oriented and there was huge price drop for black friday. Now it would be even harder to choose between XT30 and a6400. Both are such a great cameras.
Is it the grip on the sony thay makes it better to hold? You can buy a grip on ebay to the Fuji and it makes it a whole lot better - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meike-MK-XT20G-Metal-Handheld-Grip-L-Shape-Bracket-for-Fujifilm-Fuji-X-T20-X-T10/163590857575?hash=item2616c66367:g:eN4AAOSwUPpchiD2&frcectupt=true
You didn't mention three important things: 1) LR doesn't handle Fuji files well 2) it is uncomfortable to hold Fuji due to a very small grip, you have to purchase an extra one to improve the handling 3) You can upgrade from a6400 to a full frame and keep some lenses - Sony has one mount. Especially the last one is a big win for Sony. Yes, I like Fuji colors, yes, it looks nice, but in the end that is not what is the most important, at least not for me.
I’m already invested in the Sony system but the XT30 really has me curious. It does bother me that 4K caps out at 10 mins with the Fuji but I can’t deny the image is really pleasing on the Fuji
Cj64films life is short, don’t ever feel like you’re too invested into a ‘system’ to switch brands. Especially with these aps-c systems where the lenses are relatively cheap. I won’t hesitate to sell off a system, and I chalk up the small loss as a ‘user fee’. (I.e. the difference in money between what you bought it for & what you sold it for is your actual cost of use). Shoot with what makes you happy!
For sure! Sony has really neglected their APSC line. Fuji’s lens game is on point. The a6400 really fits my needs as far as auto focus & performance. But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t give Fuji a shot
If you don't mind processing, F-Log is very similar to S-Log, so you can use the same Fuji LUTs on on the Sony, including Fuji's Eterna, and still come out with a good look. And yes, the A6400 has unlimited recording with no overheating, while the Fuji is significantly limited due to potential overheating.
Yeah that’s why I’m swayed to buy the a6400 the unlimited recording, & better heat dissipation, and improved auto focus. I own an a6300 so it would be an upgrade either way.
I wanted to get the fuji as a backup camera for the 10bit video, aesthetics and film emulations, but being I already had a Sony A73 I went with the 6400 because of my exisiting emount lenses, crazy good autofocus and unlimited video record time.
I'm a Canon shooter, but out of these 2 cameras I'd take the Sony any day. Much better tracking AF, weather-sealed and aside from colour being inferior, Chris said the "raw image quality" is better. The Sony is much better in the higher ISOs, especially considering Fuji overstate their ISOs anyway. The Sony also has a grip. That little bump on the Fuji is an excuse for a grip. Both cameras are great, but Sony FTW from my point of view. A prettier camera is not automatically a better camera.
@@johnbiscuit8272 If you're not planning on moving to full frame, then get the Fuji. I bought an a6000 when I found a good 2 lens deal (16-50 & 55-200?). But Sony seems to ignore the APS-C cameras in favor of their full frame lineup and their lens selection for crop is pitiful. So while their AF may seem better on paper, the lenses you'll get to use it with are quite limited. And I don't care much for how good the raw files are since I don't do a ton of editing. And FWIW I came from Canon too (60D and 5D2). I use my EF mount lenses with Metabones and Sigma adapters and may just move to full frame once the successor of the a7iii comes out.
@@johnbiscuit8272 Don't bother with the A7 II if you shoot low light. The A6300 (and A6400 and A6500) have the same IQ, and superior AF, especially in low light.
@@johnbiscuit8272 Where did you get your details regarding the M50? I bought one for street photography. AF is very fast and accurate and it shoots at 7.4fps continuously. You only get about 10 shots in RAW and 53 shots in jpg with a SanDisk Extreme 90MB/s SD card. If you repeatedly start a burst, let go for a second before the buffer fills and burst again, etc. you can basically get unlimited shots. I have a friend with a 600D and the M50 is light years ahead. The image quality is vastly superior, especially dynamic range and noise, AF is vastly superior, metering is better, especially for portraits where the camera meters directly off the face detection square. It also offers eye detection AF which works well, but you have to be close to the subject and shooting in one shot drive mode. It all depends how much you want to spend. The A6400 is obviously a vastly superior camera, but also costs twice as much. Here's a couple of shots with the 22mm f/2 lens (the cat shots are all similar) : 1drv.ms/f/s!As2bMg5NOx76rJRVtWVqd1ASmy_1xg
@@johnbiscuit8272 What country are you in? If you live in Melbourne Australia I can give you a mint condition 760D (t6s) with a battery grip for free. I don't really want to mail things overseas.
If you are looking for a mini rig system for filmmaking etc. (RUclipsrs who use RED, I'm looking at you) the X-T30 wind hands down. Not only does it output 10 bit 4:2:2, but it also supports the USB PowerDelivery standard over its Type C port, meaning you can monitor audio while powering the camera. It's only missing the 4k60p mode of the X-T3 for camera rigs. Honestly, because of how much cheaper it is it makes more sense to use this in a rig over the X-T3.
@@BlueBomberTurbo however since the A6400 doesn't do 10-bit 4:2:2 out over HDMI, you're basically using an external monitor to monitor audio, making the whole point moot. The X-T30 meanwhile benefits with the removal of record limits, 10-bit recording, a better screen, etc. when an external recorder is attached. So my point still stands, it is actually useful to attach an external recorder to the X-T30 and rig it up, whereas there is no benefit to the A6400.
I tried Fuji XT20 many times in camera stores while I was using a6000 series. I felt the Fuji grip wasn’t good, had flimsy body and operated slow overall compared to Sony a6000. I decided to keep my A6000 and then move on to Sony full frames . Has XT30 fixed theses issues?
Isn't it ironic how the specs of a camera become irrelevant the moment you take it into your hand and the grip feels just not right? I am looking at you m50, I would have taking you as secondary, but this grip is just made for my hands. If I would be 9, my hands properly would fit.
I personally dont like retro design all that much and I'm glad Sony never went that route.. But I do agree Sony needs some higher quality aps-c glass and a higher end aps-c cam with more manual controls, hopefully still in a rangefinder style body..
@@ziginox For me it's not an "obsession" with the "retro" dials. It's mainly how intuitive and straight forward it is to control the Fujifilm camera. Since I'm on Fujifilm, I really ask myself why the mode dial with all those priority modes even exists on most other cameras, because it's literally just an extra hurdle in which I see no useful sense in. With the Fuji dials, you set the individual settings (ISO, shutter speed, aperture) either to what you want, or to auto. Simple. No modes to choose from. It's intuitive and easier to use, more straight forward. Sure, you can customize the Sony camera with the dials for it to work in a similar manual way, but those unnecessary modes are still there and kinda in the way in my opinion. It's extra complexity. For me, what Fujifilm does great, better than anyone else, is combining beautiful classic design & personality with a modern, intuitive approach. So it's beautiful, intuitive and functional. And that for a lot of people is the reason why Fujifilm cameras are so fun to use, which leads to more shooting and better results for them. That's how it is for me. I never directly disliked Sony cameras when it comes to design, but it is kinda boring and it doesn't add much to the experience. And experience is really important, even for work, but especially for photography/videography as a passion. As creators with cameras, we're visual people. So we might as well have a beautiful and nice feeling camera to carry around with us. I literally love to take my Fujifilm camera around with me, hold it in my hands and shoot. I want to to it all the time. I want to create all the time. Look & feel and design overall, really has an impact on me in life overall, not just in photography. I understand that a camera in the first place is a tool to get your job done and not everyone loves design and feel sooo much. But that doesn't mean that those people who appreciate a nice looking camera with a classic touch and intuitive design are "obsessive" about dials or whatever. Even if some people are, it is totally okay if it helps them to get their job done even better.
@@Fabio-rg9nv You nailed it! Fujifilm cameras are the easiest to use. Unless one sets up all kinds pre-sets on most cameras, making changes fast isn't easy. With Fuji, you don't need all the pre-sets, you just change the dials, and away you go. I think it comes from what type of previous cameras that one has used. Since there are still users from film SLRs, that type of user loves Fujifilm. The other manufacturers and their users just don't get it.
I miss the aperture control, the distance marking and mf/af and oss on/off in the sony lenses. I like also the fuji dials, specially for iso. I would mostly just use them in M Modus, in A or S I don't think so much. Conclusion: fuji design and lenses coupled with Sony inner life.
@fukthegoog There are plenty of customizable buttons for your need-to-have settings and a function menu. You never ever "dig through settings" after initial setup. It's like complaining that a TV is bad because the box it came in was tricky.
I can't believe I am the only one who absolutely hate the fact the this fuji has such a shallow grip. I don't understand how nobody criticize that. These cameras are very different in terms of handling. I have a glued grip to my X-T20. It's impossible to use it without one, for a long time.
@@Johnny847 There is a reason Chris is holding the A6400 by it's grip and X-t30 by the lens. I never feel safe holding my X-T20 on it's tinny grip. If it's good for you that's ok. What I don't get is some reviewers criticizing how camera X, has a shallow grip when that specific grip is 3 times bigger than the X-T30 and when they get the X-T30 there is no complain on the grip.
At 3:08 fuji video shows black “shadows” on the highlights in the sky. I’m having the same issue with the X-T3 in Premiere Pro 13.1 ANY IDEA HOY TO GET RID OF THOSE ANNOYING BLACK SHADOWS?! PS: adobe forums didn’t have an answer... and FCPX reads the highlights in the same files without that problem...
To correct some of the information in the video, the reason "nobody" makes lenses for the Fuji is because they use a proprietary mount and companies like Sigma have already come out and said that they would love to make lenses for Fuji, but it's too much of an investment to reverse engineer a mount, when they can just produce lenses for open platforms like Sony E and Leica L (being part of the alliance). It's also important to note that while Fuji has a great amount of glass as far as focal length and most are optically great, the problem is that much of that glass is also older, slower and chatty/loud. They were not designed with video in mind. Unfortunately that list of lenses also includes the ones MOST people would crave, such as their f/1.2 and f/1.4 primes. I'm still waiting for Mk2 of all of those primes and it's very noticeable how outdated they are when I switch between the X-T3 w/56mm f/1.2 and the Sony A7 III w/85mm f/1.8, for example. Lastly, Fuji does have simulations and the ability to process a RAW in camera, but practically it's hard to use those functions. It takes a while to generate a JPEG and there's no comparison/preview when doing so. I really wish I could see the image live as I make the changes - otherwise how do I know the impact of those changes (and there's a lot you can customize). It's almost like using Photoshop, but not seeing what you're doing until after you're done tweaking and then you click "Generate my Image" button. I think Fuji can improve here. To be clear, I do love the film simulations, it's just clunky - unless you just prefer one simulation for everything and that's the only way you shoot. It's hard to choose between these two. Both are great. I can list lots of pro's/con's, but all these details will matter more/less to different users. Good news is it's almost hard to go wrong with either these days :)
All mounts are proprietary. It's up to the manufacturer if they want to give out the details and make it easy for third parties to support them. Sony chose to give out their mount information. Fuji did not. Now Sony has many companies making lenses for them, while Fuji only had Zeiss, and only for a short time. Canikon is on the same side as Fuji, and will have issues with lens support. Even the first third party lenses out of the gate that support AF will have inconsistencies with first party lenses, much like Sigma's first set of APS-C primes before Sony released their mount info. Improvements come with time when it comes to reverse engineering things. Then you have to worry about the company updating firmware, which can break third party compatibility (as we've seen with Nikon time and time again).
Wait a minute, there is a cap for how long you can record in 4K and 1080p on the fuji? What exactly does that mean? Like in segments? If i want to record a scene for an hour, it will still record that whole hour but i will have to stitch the 10 minute segments together, correct?
Personally, if I had to pick one of the cameras, or be flogged to death. I would pick the X-T30 but if death by flogging wasn't on the line, I wouldn't pick either. I am a Fujfilm user but I don't like the size of the X-T30, it is a little too small for my hand size and a little annoying. My go to carry around camera is the X-H1 (which price wise, is a steal at the moment). Why wouldn't pick the Sony, is the lenses. Sony is focused on full frame domination and it feels like their APS-C is taking a back seat and that is very noticeable in the lenses. I know I will be using my Fujifilm lenses a lot longer than I will be using my X-H1.
wow really? Why? I have the Sony A6500 and I like it but I've got to admit that it's hard to find good affordable lenses, and colour seems to be better on fuji...
I had purchased the Sony A5100 for my spouse. It is a horrible camera. The body style and controls are the same on all the succeeding cameras. I have the Fuji XT-10. Comparing our pics, while shooting side by side, was like night and day. So, we have 2 Fujifilm XT-10s now.
The Sony a6400 makes a great second camera to my A7iii. I constantly use full frame lenses on it and my personal favorite combo is the a6400 with the Sony 70-300mm G where I get OSS and a 450mm equivalent from the crop. This plus the AF makes it one of those most portable run and gun nature photography kits I can make. If you haven't tried the AF with the Sony a6400 then do so before you buy any of the cameras. It's a good predictor for how you will shoot full frame AF-C in the future.
How do the hump and bump feel in the hand? Does the pinkie finger get any action on either of them? Never liked the X-T20's lackluster bump. I prefer a substantial hump that can handle more lens gi... okay, I'm done. ;D Either camera would pretty great for a lot of people I'm sure. In this case handling is probably a big factor because both have really solid specifications.
As a landscape shooter I want to love the Fuji, yet I would buy the Sony because of the weather sealing. I can find the two or three quality lenses that I need and am comfortable tweaking the color in my computer.
What about wireless connectivity and apps? With the x-t30 you can dump all youre pictures to your phone with BT 4.2, start working on them in LR mobile and as soon as youre phone is connected to wifi the pics uploads to the LR cloud and other clouds, so you have a backups and you can continue the post work on youre computer. The app allows live view and remote controll so you can use youre phone as a monitor when in front off the camera.
For me simple: I like better the range-finder style VF on the 6400 (my nose doesn't contact the cam) and I also have Sony lenses, so it's a no-brainer. Besides, the auto focus is better.
I like the A6400 (love the focus system) but the lack of dedicated glass stop my from upgrading my A6000. Thinking to upgrade to FF. Although Fuji XT3 is great
@leicanoct "Transitioning" means lugging around unbalanced full frame glass on a little APSC camera for years...no thanks! I do agree that the lack of APSC lenses is the biggest downside of my A6400.
Big problem for Sony Aps-c users who have to fork out serious money for higher quality FE glass and carry around added weight while wasting the additional FF coverage of the lens. This is why Sony Aps-c is dying because the lack of decent Aps-c lenses to go with these bodies that seem to come out almost every year is absurd.
I just bought the a7iii and a6400. I love the a6400, i can say the colors are perfect in my opinion and are not oversaturated and you can customize the to look exactly what you want in camera if you play with it. Also i love the low light quality on both, here a7iii is a beast.
5:18 "Sony has better low light performance!" The image says otherwise! Bothe Fuji samples are more detailed and less destroyed by smearing noise reduction!
I just bought the A6400 here's why: 1. Custom buttons and memory settings. You can easily pre-program different settings on the Sony to quickly switch between 4k and 120 slow mo. The Fuji takes much more time to change between these and you can't have it remember your settings. 2. Sony seems to have a better line up of image stabilization inside their lenses and have better budget and lightweight lenses. Take the 18-135mm Sony kit lens and add the 35mm 1.8 Prime with OSS and you have a killer combo that doesn't break the bank and it is small and compact. 3. Autofocus. Color profile doesn't matter if what your shooting isn't in focus.
X-T30 unless you need weather sealing, though then you can go XT3. At aps-c Fuji is best, but they don't do full frame so I can still recommend the a7III for those that need that.
Slight error during the video segment the title card on the left said "a6300" instead of "a6400). For me the Fuji's are not comfortable to hold/grip so I didnt get one even though I wanted one for the color and bnw film sims. I love my Sony's (3 of them)
Retire With Debt Fuji definitely gets the nod when it comes to lenses. When I first got into digital photography, a very well respected professional photographer told me “bodies come & go- buy into the system with the lenses that best suit you”
I just bought the a6400, anxiously waiting for delivery, but after watching more comparison videos, AS EXPECTED, I’m more inclined into Fuji... :-/ damn...
Hey good review! Just one question you guyz read off que cards? Write and remember your lines? Or total talking flying off the seat of your pants? Just realized I never think about how much time you spend trying to make it flow simple executed brilliantly.
Weve never scripted any of our shows. We do make research notes, but otherwise we just let things flow the way they flow. We feel it gives a more natural and sincere impression.
Great comparison, the xt30's video record limit is a very annoying limit. I think it's mostly due to heat but more testing is require to figure that out.
It is. When Fuji used the A6300 sensor for their 24MP cameras, they still had one of the recording limits in the industry. Processing X-Trans is more intensive than standard Bayer, so it takes more processing and therefore creates more heat, to do the same thing a simple Bayer sensor does.
Hi chris, I am just into photography. And weight, handling and image quality is very important to me. Is there a lot of difference in their image quality? Which of them is more comfortable to use? What will i miss out from the other if i choose either of them? Are sigma 16mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.4 really good enough to choose sony a6400? No doubt fujifilm lenses are amazing but they are nearly double the price. Will that less expensive combo be sufficient for me? Answers to these questions might help me decide. Thank you
Wondering if there's been a firmware update for the Fuji in the time since this video has been published that would narrow the Sony's autofocus advantage?
Hi. Tell me please, what kind of camera do you think the A6400 kit 18-135 or Fuji X-T30 kit 18-55 takes? I do not know how to process photos and videos. Need a camera for home use. Shoot nature on fishing and baby. Fuji likes color presets, but autofocus is also important. A lot of bloggers said that Fuji AF is worse, losing face.Thanks
Love the looks of the Fuji and the lens options. But I tried both in the shop and for my hands the Fuji just feels not comfortable. Like it will fall out of my hand. The grip not working for me. Sony grip feels way more secure and comfortable for me. Nikon Z50 feels good in my hand too. But so far I am leaning towards the a6400.
Go for Sony if you like to spent more time editing post production . I go for Fuji color and one thing Fuji stand out is monochrom b&W acros if you like street photography b&w then Fuji is one to have .
Just bought the x-t30 and don't regret it one bit. I never even considered Fuji until a few weeks ago but the colors just blew me away and I am discovering more and more features that make the x-t30 (and xt3) so great!
@@zepzop8471 I would say they are very similar since they have the same sensor with the only differences being that the xt3 can do 4k 60fps instead of 30fps on the x-t30 and it doesn't have the 10 and 15 minutes recording limit that the x-t30 has. So that makes the xt3 a bit better you could say if you have the budget.
the nice thing about sony is that, from what I understand, its autofocus system excels not only within the category, but also in any other comparison, so you would have a camera which in one important aspect is outstanding....
The 6400 for me, I'd rather the solid af there is nothing worse fighting the camera to focus on what you want. Rolling shutter not a problem to me as I barely shoot video. For others Sony does need to update the old 24 MP bionz x sensor up it read out speeds.
It is actually a new sensor that added 425 contrast points. There was a discussion about it on eoshd, www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/28537-eoshd-opinion-the-sony-a6400-is-an-absolute-turkey/page/7/ Androidlad has put out some sony sensor documents in the past that were picked up by sonyalpharumors. He writes this in response to tweak on page 7 there - "On 1/20/2019 at 4:45 PM, tweak said: I just don't expect Sony has changed their dated LSI or heat sinks (especially not on a budget model). They upgraded the sensor to IMX293 with 20nm lithography and new readout circuitry, only the analog photosites remain unchanged. " Andrew makes a comment that it's the same and he provides some more info so check it out if interested.
I've been torn between the X-T30 ii and the A6400 looking at packages with Zooms. In Australia the Fuji packages with the excellent for the money 18-55 kit lens in an affordable package. The Sony A6400 on the other hand tends to be packaged with the E 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 which just isn't nearly as nice. It did cross my mind that if I purchased an A6400 as a body only there might be a good offering from someone like Sigma that might compete better with the Fuji 18-55 whilst still being reasonably priced. Does anyone have any suggestions there?
The Sony has upgrade possibilities if you buy full frame lenses. I might buy a A6500 to complement my A7III - that will give me 1.5x focal length on every lens, giving me twice as many different focal lengths on my primes.
Which one is better ? I will not answer that but I will tell you which one I bought the a6400 which I mainly use for video, no record limit, tilting screen and no record limit are very important for me.
Hump and Bump got me through some tough nights.
I love your channel! I hope to God that the perfect camera will never be launched as it will kill your channel. ;-)
@Aron J Anderson you mean hump and dump? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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track 4 tho, the one where they talk about growing up on signal hill. 😪🤛🏻
If you play the track in reverse you can hear the devil's voice pulling for Sony.
Both cameras are great. One cannot go wrong with either. Just buy the one you like more and don't look back. It will serve you fine.
I'm curious about the lens selection. Which one has a cheaper price range like fifty nifty?
@@Durio_zibethinus Depends on what you mean.
For 50mm equiv, Fuji has the 35mm f2 and the 35mm f1.4, while Sony has the 35mm f1.8 and the Sigma 30mm f1.4.
For a 50mm focal length lens, Fuji has the 50mm f2 and 56mm f1.2 while Sony has the 50mm f1.8 and the Sigma 56mm f1.4.
@@aloi thanks for your help!
Fuji hands down the better lenses.
Fuji has a better selection of lenses, and allows you to buy cheap (XC) or quality (XF). Sony has more stabilized lenses, but they tend to be pricey for their level of quality. I chose Sony for the smaller 18-135mm zoom for travel. It's a fantastic combo.
If only I could take the features that I like from both cameras and put them all into one... behold, the Soji a-T6430. One can only dream. 😄
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This one
Your dream has come true, it's called the X-T4 :P
Am still looking at X-T30 though, that or X-E4. Great value for the price.
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The name sounds so normal
The answer is simple. The choice depends on whether you're a Fuji or Sony guy. Both are just perfect and, believe me, the more we use a camera, the less flaws we find in it, perhaps more in ourselves.
Quang Nguyen not necessarily true. A lot of this are for people moving on to their first mirrorless interchangeable lens camera and looking for something inexpensive. What might drive their purchase is the feature set... not brand necessarily.
@@airdailyx totally agree with you on the case of a mirrorless starter. In my case, just somehow I picked an a6500 back then without much comparison with Fujifilm or Olympus. Although I found many things that my camera has not been good at, it inspired me to shoot everyday and to find a way to get better photos each time. I really loved it more and more along the way. Maybe I was born a Sony guy ^^
@@QuangNguyen-cq2xl Yes. And whatever cam you're using, it's certainly much better than what Bresson or Frank had 60 years ago.
The thing is these cameras are not for starters, these are fairly enthusiast grade models that cost beyond a thousand dollars with basic kit lens. So most buyers will already have a brand they're a bit loyal and comfortable with. So I totally agree with OP. Both are wonderful cameras, and choice is basically dependent on whether you prefer Sony or Fuji.
And the real starter mirrorless camera? Well that's the wonderful Canon M50 at 500 bucks, half these cameras, with an EVF better than both these 1000$ cameras and a better LCD quality and articulation, better wifi/wireless system for instant sharing, and a much cheaper lens selection than any of these companies with the amazing 22 + 32 + 50 trio plus that lovely 11-22!
@@nocommentnoname1111 The camera does not make you a better photographer guy or girl!!!!! It's you sweetheart!
I am learning how to talk in front of the camera from Chris. He's just amazing. Really engaging and interesting to watch!
Self confidence, try saying "I've got great hair that every girl loves" and "Jordan envies me" before recording.
@@kian8382 haha ok!
You are absolutely right. Why if not would Amazon pick him as his main salesman for photo gear?¡ These people know their onions.
techline - Linus don’t forget to have fun while doing it too!
Being a bit of a silly goose is never a bad thing (unless you’re at a funeral ;)
In my opinion the most key part of giving a good camera presence, is talking about something you're truly passionate about. Passion is contagious.
Both are great. Had a6000 and replaced it for the Fuji - the form factor and design just makes you want to grab it more often, the film simulations are wonderful and the dials are so fun to use. My 2 cents.
Bought a XT30 and love it. nice form factor and the controls are right there, no digging two deep to change something simple.
I went with the X-T30. I love it
Ryan Huddleston congratulations ryan. How is the handling of the camera? Which lenses are you using with it? If you have attached hand grip, does the camera feel heavy?
Me 2 mate. Im a happy man :)
@@neehalkhan5439 the world may never know
@@Aaron-fb6mb damn
Stupid question, but the 4k video limit is just referring to files, right? I can record a scene for an hour and then stitch the files together for a continuous scene?
Do you know what the file size of a 4k 10 bit video is (10 minute segment)?
Great double-review! This video was so fast and straight to the point. You guys did in 10 mins what other reviewers would take 20 mins to do.
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The analog controls on the Fujifilm are fantastic. I use the camera, almost never having to go into the menus. The camera is intuitive, the quality it stellar. Sony must be a good product, but I'll keep the Fujifilm.
I was almost sold on geting a Sony a6400, but now I'm taking a hard look at the XT-30. I am at a point thwere I have to start (again) to get new glass, and used to have Canon DSLR before. Bu tI like the line up of Fuji glass (especially the small prime lenses), and the looks and control layout of the Fuji bring me back to the first 35mm film rangefinder camera I bought at a pawn shop when I first started in photography. The images on the Fuji also look great off the box, so it would make things easier, and let you concentrate on shooting, rather than having to spend a lot of time on post processing.
WIth the Sony, though the weather sealing and auto-focus are unbeatable, but ultimately, I do like the looks of the Fuji (I like teh look of teh XE-3 a bit more, but the XT-30 is pretty in the silver or black colors).
I'd go with a silver Fuji XT-30....
Life is short...buy both. One wife...many cameras.
What a smart idea it is!
Yes. Have both
Smartest comment I've ever read so far.. LOL
I went wth the Fuji. I'm a beginner. I wanted a camera that was versatile and gave me room to grow. The menu is really straight forward and the dials aid my learning. Its fun to play with and encourages me to shoot. Didn't cost an arm and a leg either.
No flipping screen right?
Easy choice for me, I already own Fuji lens. Both cameras sound great though
I owned both xt20 and xt30. When i first hold the xt20 2 years ago, i was not please with the ergo and handgrip. It's too light, plasticky, and not stable to hold. But with time, i learned to appreciate its shortcomings. Because xt20 is small in size, it wont receive as much attention. Because xt20 is light, i can shot all day long without hurting my shoulder muscle. Its shortcomings are its strength and that's why i'm buying the new xt30.
I Like them both but I need better AF. (SONY FOR ME)
Fuji for me, I’ve had the Sony a6000 but it’s a very complicated camera to use. The Fuji inspired you to pick up the camera and go shoot.
5:23 I wish Fuji would finally get rid of the x-trans. It was a fun novelty, but it's time to move on. It's not any sharper than a non x-trans sensor. I've had several Fujis with X-trans and I have had many bayer type sensors (have a Fuji and Nikon right now) and my Nikon (Z7) is as or more detailed than the Fuji with reasonably good lenses (JPG or RAW). I just don't see the point in the x-trans anymore. My original X100 (bayer type) was just as detailed as my X100S (x-trans) and the original X100 images appeared more natural. Also as you mentioned, the most popular editing software doesn't handle the x-trans files very well. Having said that, I would still take the X-T30 over the a6400. I had the a6000 in the past and absolutely hated the body style.
Shawn Steuer Or the APS-C sensor/good lens combo of a D500, etc etc. Fuji already uses good sensors and there’s no point in using the X trans arrangement on top of it. They don’t use it on their medium format camera either. I think they’ve marketed themselves into a corner with the x trans hype and have to keep using it or make the admission that it’s really not a big benefit to everybody.
@@shawnsteuer9951 A FF sensor at the same resolution won't be any more or less detailed than an APS-C sensor of the same MP and using a similar quality lens. It's only when you get to 42/45/47/50MP that FF pulls ahead, though it drops down to APS-C quality at the pixel level.
@@shawnsteuer9951 Smaller file size for the bayer sensor type and Lightroom handles the Bayer type files much better (final result looks better with no 'watercolor' effect). My X-Trans files are unusually large compared to a similar megapixel file from a bayer type sensor. I think it would make everyone's lives just a little easier if they switched back to the normal bayer type (easier editing, quicker raw file loading in editing, smaller files). I'm not anti X-trans, I just think it's not necessary and creates too many annoyances in editing. I just looked at my original X100 and X100S files (original X100 is only 12 MP) and I don't see any advantage of the X-trans X100S in my examples compared to my X100 when viewed at 100%
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist Fuji uses the X-Trans because it produces better jpegs, which is for the vast majority of Fuji users.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist I don't know mate Bayer sensors from Sony has slight yellowish green tone, I absolutely hate that but recent Nikon has improved over time, I liked Nikon d7200 colors more but it turned out to be Toshiba sensor. I think Fuji colors are nice with xtrans sensor, Fuji uses Bayer sensor on medium format, in my limited experience with that camera but the colors coming out of the camera is not nice as the xtrans sensor. In raw you may be able to fix it but it takes too much time to get the look you wanted. I have used Sony a6300 it's barely an improvement over xtrans in low light, slightly you can bring details from the shadows, other than that I didn't see any benefit of going to Bayer sensor. Just don't get too much fixated on Bayer if you don't like xtrans you got plenty of option other than fuji, but let us have xtrans for who like it.
I went with the x-t20 love it. Kit lens is crazy and vintage lenses like the Helios work great
Both cameras are awesome! I already own some E-mount lenses for my a6000, so the a6400 upgrade is a no brainer for me. But if I were starting over, I wouldn't have any issues with buying the X-T30 instead.
Went with the Fuji, love how the camera handles and looks :)
Love Xt30 . The appearance of this camera takes me back to the past and Its performance takes me to the present.
Yaa 😁
Fuji. I love their jpegs and film simulations.
If you are shooting things that move, it's the a6400 all day every day. That AF is astonishing.
@blacklizted That is THE ONLY thing that's preventing me to get the Sony - that bloody rolling shutter!! I can live without the ND filter and smaller batteries, but video is my thing, and I toss an turn about this frustrating issue over and over again. So no, it isn't Sony all day every day! Pfftt..
But the color is just wrong.
blacklizted the xt30 also has rolling shutter, it’s a wash. The Sony is superior
4:00 shuttering on Fuji and then 4:10 shuttering and jello when he moved into camera .. go with Fuji at least u get good pictures Fuji 52mm 1.2 prime is so good
Few years ago, the choice between Sony a6300 and Fuji XT20 was also a difficult one, eventually I decided to take Sony because it's more video oriented and there was huge price drop for black friday. Now it would be even harder to choose between XT30 and a6400. Both are such a great cameras.
A lot of the Sony pictures/videos are labeled a6300 instead of a6400, is this a typo? example: 8:11
yup he did mention a6400 in that clip
Yes I saw that too. Typo i’m sure.
They're 98% the same camera anyway.
That was indeed a typo.
Just got back from Best Buy. I really preferred the physical feeling of the a6400. I guess I'll have to do without 10-bit external.
Is it the grip on the sony thay makes it better to hold? You can buy a grip on ebay to the Fuji and it makes it a whole lot better - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meike-MK-XT20G-Metal-Handheld-Grip-L-Shape-Bracket-for-Fujifilm-Fuji-X-T20-X-T10/163590857575?hash=item2616c66367:g:eN4AAOSwUPpchiD2&frcectupt=true
Damn fine camera for Fuji but the 10-min 4K limit is a B-camera deal breaker for me.
You didn't mention three important things: 1) LR doesn't handle Fuji files well 2) it is uncomfortable to hold Fuji due to a very small grip, you have to purchase an extra one to improve the handling 3) You can upgrade from a6400 to a full frame and keep some lenses - Sony has one mount. Especially the last one is a big win for Sony. Yes, I like Fuji colors, yes, it looks nice, but in the end that is not what is the most important, at least not for me.
Which is better sony a6400 or nikon d7500?
@@siddharthrana1757 mirror less cameras are future man
@@shubhanshyadav3983 lol I bought sony a6400
I’m already invested in the Sony system but the XT30 really has me curious. It does bother me that 4K caps out at 10 mins with the Fuji but I can’t deny the image is really pleasing on the Fuji
Cj64films life is short, don’t ever feel like you’re too invested into a ‘system’ to switch brands. Especially with these aps-c systems where the lenses are relatively cheap. I won’t hesitate to sell off a system, and I chalk up the small loss as a ‘user fee’. (I.e. the difference in money between what you bought it for & what you sold it for is your actual cost of use).
Shoot with what makes you happy!
For sure! Sony has really neglected their APSC line. Fuji’s lens game is on point. The a6400 really fits my needs as far as auto focus & performance. But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t give Fuji a shot
If you don't mind processing, F-Log is very similar to S-Log, so you can use the same Fuji LUTs on on the Sony, including Fuji's Eterna, and still come out with a good look. And yes, the A6400 has unlimited recording with no overheating, while the Fuji is significantly limited due to potential overheating.
Yeah that’s why I’m swayed to buy the a6400 the unlimited recording, & better heat dissipation, and improved auto focus. I own an a6300 so it would be an upgrade either way.
I wanted to get the fuji as a backup camera for the 10bit video, aesthetics and film emulations, but being I already had a Sony A73 I went with the 6400 because of my exisiting emount lenses, crazy good autofocus and unlimited video record time.
8:16 is that a6300 ??...or a6400
I'm a Canon shooter, but out of these 2 cameras I'd take the Sony any day. Much better tracking AF, weather-sealed and aside from colour being inferior, Chris said the "raw image quality" is better. The Sony is much better in the higher ISOs, especially considering Fuji overstate their ISOs anyway. The Sony also has a grip. That little bump on the Fuji is an excuse for a grip.
Both cameras are great, but Sony FTW from my point of view. A prettier camera is not automatically a better camera.
@@johnbiscuit8272 If you're not planning on moving to full frame, then get the Fuji. I bought an a6000 when I found a good 2 lens deal (16-50 & 55-200?). But Sony seems to ignore the APS-C cameras in favor of their full frame lineup and their lens selection for crop is pitiful. So while their AF may seem better on paper, the lenses you'll get to use it with are quite limited. And I don't care much for how good the raw files are since I don't do a ton of editing. And FWIW I came from Canon too (60D and 5D2). I use my EF mount lenses with Metabones and Sigma adapters and may just move to full frame once the successor of the a7iii comes out.
@@johnbiscuit8272 Don't bother with the A7 II if you shoot low light. The A6300 (and A6400 and A6500) have the same IQ, and superior AF, especially in low light.
@@johnbiscuit8272 Where did you get your details regarding the M50? I bought one for street photography. AF is very fast and accurate and it shoots at 7.4fps continuously. You only get about 10 shots in RAW and 53 shots in jpg with a SanDisk Extreme 90MB/s SD card. If you repeatedly start a burst, let go for a second before the buffer fills and burst again, etc. you can basically get unlimited shots.
I have a friend with a 600D and the M50 is light years ahead. The image quality is vastly superior, especially dynamic range and noise, AF is vastly superior, metering is better, especially for portraits where the camera meters directly off the face detection square. It also offers eye detection AF which works well, but you have to be close to the subject and shooting in one shot drive mode.
It all depends how much you want to spend. The A6400 is obviously a vastly superior camera, but also costs twice as much.
Here's a couple of shots with the 22mm f/2 lens (the cat shots are all similar) :
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@@johnbiscuit8272 What country are you in? If you live in Melbourne Australia I can give you a mint condition 760D (t6s) with a battery grip for free. I don't really want to mail things overseas.
@@johnbiscuit8272 I hope you have a great time in Oz. 🙂
If you are looking for a mini rig system for filmmaking etc. (RUclipsrs who use RED, I'm looking at you) the X-T30 wind hands down. Not only does it output 10 bit 4:2:2, but it also supports the USB PowerDelivery standard over its Type C port, meaning you can monitor audio while powering the camera. It's only missing the 4k60p mode of the X-T3 for camera rigs. Honestly, because of how much cheaper it is it makes more sense to use this in a rig over the X-T3.
You can power the Sony via USB (or just a dummy battery), and use an HDMI adapter to get headphone out. Different method, same result.
@@BlueBomberTurbo however since the A6400 doesn't do 10-bit 4:2:2 out over HDMI, you're basically using an external monitor to monitor audio, making the whole point moot. The X-T30 meanwhile benefits with the removal of record limits, 10-bit recording, a better screen, etc. when an external recorder is attached. So my point still stands, it is actually useful to attach an external recorder to the X-T30 and rig it up, whereas there is no benefit to the A6400.
The Fuji lens line-up is the decider if you consider the camera body for what it ism just one component of a system
I tried Fuji XT20 many times in camera stores while I was using a6000 series. I felt the Fuji grip wasn’t good, had flimsy body and operated slow overall compared to Sony a6000. I decided to keep my A6000 and then move on to Sony full frames . Has XT30 fixed theses issues?
Isn't it ironic how the specs of a camera become irrelevant the moment you take it into your hand and the grip feels just not right? I am looking at you m50, I would have taking you as secondary, but this grip is just made for my hands. If I would be 9, my hands properly would fit.
You have to use it with a half leather grip
5:19 Fuji's look better. Just my 2 cents
Oh lol, I didn't even look at it, I just listened to what he said. Now that I look at it, the Fujifilm does look better.
Exactly!
Fuji of course
I personally dont like retro design all that much and I'm glad Sony never went that route..
But I do agree Sony needs some higher quality aps-c glass and a higher end aps-c cam with more manual controls, hopefully still in a rangefinder style body..
Yeah, I'm not seeing the obsession with the shutter speed dial, or ISO buttons for that matter.
@@ziginox For me it's not an "obsession" with the "retro" dials. It's mainly how intuitive and straight forward it is to control the Fujifilm camera. Since I'm on Fujifilm, I really ask myself why the mode dial with all those priority modes even exists on most other cameras, because it's literally just an extra hurdle in which I see no useful sense in. With the Fuji dials, you set the individual settings (ISO, shutter speed, aperture) either to what you want, or to auto. Simple. No modes to choose from. It's intuitive and easier to use, more straight forward. Sure, you can customize the Sony camera with the dials for it to work in a similar manual way, but those unnecessary modes are still there and kinda in the way in my opinion. It's extra complexity.
For me, what Fujifilm does great, better than anyone else, is combining beautiful classic design & personality with a modern, intuitive approach. So it's beautiful, intuitive and functional. And that for a lot of people is the reason why Fujifilm cameras are so fun to use, which leads to more shooting and better results for them. That's how it is for me.
I never directly disliked Sony cameras when it comes to design, but it is kinda boring and it doesn't add much to the experience. And experience is really important, even for work, but especially for photography/videography as a passion.
As creators with cameras, we're visual people. So we might as well have a beautiful and nice feeling camera to carry around with us. I literally love to take my Fujifilm camera around with me, hold it in my hands and shoot. I want to to it all the time. I want to create all the time. Look & feel and design overall, really has an impact on me in life overall, not just in photography.
I understand that a camera in the first place is a tool to get your job done and not everyone loves design and feel sooo much. But that doesn't mean that those people who appreciate a nice looking camera with a classic touch and intuitive design are "obsessive" about dials or whatever. Even if some people are, it is totally okay if it helps them to get their job done even better.
@@Fabio-rg9nv You nailed it! Fujifilm cameras are the easiest to use. Unless one sets up all kinds pre-sets on most cameras, making changes fast isn't easy. With Fuji, you don't need all the pre-sets, you just change the dials, and away you go. I think it comes from what type of previous cameras that one has used. Since there are still users from film SLRs, that type of user loves Fujifilm. The other manufacturers and their users just don't get it.
I miss the aperture control, the distance marking and mf/af and oss on/off in the sony lenses. I like also the fuji dials, specially for iso. I would mostly just use them in M Modus, in A or S I don't think so much. Conclusion: fuji design and lenses coupled with Sony inner life.
@fukthegoog There are plenty of customizable buttons for your need-to-have settings and a function menu. You never ever "dig through settings" after initial setup. It's like complaining that a TV is bad because the box it came in was tricky.
I can't believe I am the only one who absolutely hate the fact the this fuji has such a shallow grip. I don't understand how nobody criticize that. These cameras are very different in terms of handling. I have a glued grip to my X-T20. It's impossible to use it without one, for a long time.
Serious point! Walking around with a camera that is difficult to hold - not going to do that.
I have the XT-10 and have used it for 4 years. Never experienced any handling issues.
@@Johnny847 There is a reason Chris is holding the A6400 by it's grip and X-t30 by the lens. I never feel safe holding my X-T20 on it's tinny grip. If it's good for you that's ok. What I don't get is some reviewers criticizing how camera X, has a shallow grip when that specific grip is 3 times bigger than the X-T30 and when they get the X-T30 there is no complain on the grip.
Just buy the half leather grip
At 3:08 fuji video shows black “shadows” on the highlights in the sky. I’m having the same issue with the X-T3 in Premiere Pro 13.1 ANY IDEA HOY TO GET RID OF THOSE ANNOYING BLACK SHADOWS?!
PS: adobe forums didn’t have an answer... and FCPX reads the highlights in the same files without that problem...
To correct some of the information in the video, the reason "nobody" makes lenses for the Fuji is because they use a proprietary mount and companies like Sigma have already come out and said that they would love to make lenses for Fuji, but it's too much of an investment to reverse engineer a mount, when they can just produce lenses for open platforms like Sony E and Leica L (being part of the alliance).
It's also important to note that while Fuji has a great amount of glass as far as focal length and most are optically great, the problem is that much of that glass is also older, slower and chatty/loud. They were not designed with video in mind. Unfortunately that list of lenses also includes the ones MOST people would crave, such as their f/1.2 and f/1.4 primes.
I'm still waiting for Mk2 of all of those primes and it's very noticeable how outdated they are when I switch between the X-T3 w/56mm f/1.2 and the Sony A7 III w/85mm f/1.8, for example.
Lastly, Fuji does have simulations and the ability to process a RAW in camera, but practically it's hard to use those functions. It takes a while to generate a JPEG and there's no comparison/preview when doing so. I really wish I could see the image live as I make the changes - otherwise how do I know the impact of those changes (and there's a lot you can customize). It's almost like using Photoshop, but not seeing what you're doing until after you're done tweaking and then you click "Generate my Image" button. I think Fuji can improve here. To be clear, I do love the film simulations, it's just clunky - unless you just prefer one simulation for everything and that's the only way you shoot.
It's hard to choose between these two. Both are great. I can list lots of pro's/con's, but all these details will matter more/less to different users. Good news is it's almost hard to go wrong with either these days :)
All mounts are proprietary. It's up to the manufacturer if they want to give out the details and make it easy for third parties to support them. Sony chose to give out their mount information. Fuji did not. Now Sony has many companies making lenses for them, while Fuji only had Zeiss, and only for a short time.
Canikon is on the same side as Fuji, and will have issues with lens support. Even the first third party lenses out of the gate that support AF will have inconsistencies with first party lenses, much like Sigma's first set of APS-C primes before Sony released their mount info. Improvements come with time when it comes to reverse engineering things. Then you have to worry about the company updating firmware, which can break third party compatibility (as we've seen with Nikon time and time again).
Wait a minute, there is a cap for how long you can record in 4K and 1080p on the fuji? What exactly does that mean? Like in segments? If i want to record a scene for an hour, it will still record that whole hour but i will have to stitch the 10 minute segments together, correct?
Personally, if I had to pick one of the cameras, or be flogged to death. I would pick the X-T30 but if death by flogging wasn't on the line, I wouldn't pick either. I am a Fujfilm user but I don't like the size of the X-T30, it is a little too small for my hand size and a little annoying. My go to carry around camera is the X-H1 (which price wise, is a steal at the moment).
Why wouldn't pick the Sony, is the lenses. Sony is focused on full frame domination and it feels like their APS-C is taking a back seat and that is very noticeable in the lenses. I know I will be using my Fujifilm lenses a lot longer than I will be using my X-H1.
Fujifilm lenses are a fantastic value. Dollar for dollar better than any other brand.
i sold my A6300 and bought the Fuji XT-3 and i don't regret it at all
wow really? Why? I have the Sony A6500 and I like it but I've got to admit that it's hard to find good affordable lenses, and colour seems to be better on fuji...
I had purchased the Sony A5100 for my spouse. It is a horrible camera. The body style and controls are the same on all the succeeding cameras. I have the Fuji XT-10. Comparing our pics, while shooting side by side, was like night and day. So, we have 2 Fujifilm XT-10s now.
The Sony a6400 makes a great second camera to my A7iii. I constantly use full frame lenses on it and my personal favorite combo is the a6400 with the Sony 70-300mm G where I get OSS and a 450mm equivalent from the crop. This plus the AF makes it one of those most portable run and gun nature photography kits I can make.
If you haven't tried the AF with the Sony a6400 then do so before you buy any of the cameras. It's a good predictor for how you will shoot full frame AF-C in the future.
Why cant fuji do tap to track subject focus? Only face and eye focus. Firmware please!
Im stuck Becuase im trying to decide which one is better for travel/street photography as well as car photography
How do the hump and bump feel in the hand? Does the pinkie finger get any action on either of them? Never liked the X-T20's lackluster bump. I prefer a substantial hump that can handle more lens gi... okay, I'm done. ;D Either camera would pretty great for a lot of people I'm sure. In this case handling is probably a big factor because both have really solid specifications.
As a landscape shooter I want to love the Fuji, yet I would buy the Sony because of the weather sealing. I can find the two or three quality lenses that I need and am comfortable tweaking the color in my computer.
What about wireless connectivity and apps?
With the x-t30 you can dump all youre pictures to your phone with BT 4.2, start working on them in LR mobile and as soon as youre phone is connected to wifi the pics uploads to the LR cloud and other clouds, so you have a backups and you can continue the post work on youre computer. The app allows live view and remote controll so you can use youre phone as a monitor when in front off the camera.
For me simple: I like better the range-finder style VF on the 6400 (my nose doesn't contact the cam) and I also have Sony lenses, so it's a no-brainer. Besides, the auto focus is better.
I enjoy watching dpreview reviews, thanks guys.
I like the A6400 (love the focus system) but the lack of dedicated glass stop my from upgrading my A6000. Thinking to upgrade to FF. Although Fuji XT3 is great
The Sigma trio are amazing for the Sony 16/30/56mm All you really need
@leicanoct "Transitioning" means lugging around unbalanced full frame glass on a little APSC camera for years...no thanks! I do agree that the lack of APSC lenses is the biggest downside of my A6400.
Big problem for Sony Aps-c users who have to fork out serious money for higher quality FE glass and carry around added weight while wasting the additional FF coverage of the lens. This is why Sony Aps-c is dying because the lack of decent Aps-c lenses to go with these bodies that seem to come out almost every year is absurd.
I just bought the a7iii and a6400. I love the a6400, i can say the colors are perfect in my opinion and are not oversaturated and you can customize the to look exactly what you want in camera if you play with it. Also i love the low light quality on both, here a7iii is a beast.
5:18 "Sony has better low light performance!"
The image says otherwise!
Bothe Fuji samples are more detailed and less destroyed by smearing noise reduction!
I just bought the A6400 here's why:
1. Custom buttons and memory settings. You can easily pre-program different settings on the Sony to quickly switch between 4k and 120 slow mo. The Fuji takes much more time to change between these and you can't have it remember your settings.
2. Sony seems to have a better line up of image stabilization inside their lenses and have better budget and lightweight lenses. Take the 18-135mm Sony kit lens and add the 35mm 1.8 Prime with OSS and you have a killer combo that doesn't break the bank and it is small and compact.
3. Autofocus. Color profile doesn't matter if what your shooting isn't in focus.
X-T30 unless you need weather sealing, though then you can go XT3. At aps-c Fuji is best, but they don't do full frame so I can still recommend the a7III for those that need that.
Fuji can’t autofocus, so they’re less versatile than the Sony’s.
@@Yupthereitism its come a long way ...not as good as sony but more than capable
Slight error during the video segment the title card on the left said "a6300" instead of "a6400). For me the Fuji's are not comfortable to hold/grip so I didnt get one even though I wanted one for the color and bnw film sims. I love my Sony's (3 of them)
U foget about hybrid log gamma in Sony A6400
Watch a bunch of vs videos and I cant come to a sound decision. I think Im just going to rent both and see how both feel.
What you said makes perfect sense. See what camera works best for YOU and go with it. Enjoy the camera of YOUR choice!
Retire With Debt Fuji definitely gets the nod when it comes to lenses. When I first got into digital photography, a very well respected professional photographer told me “bodies come & go- buy into the system with the lenses that best suit you”
I rented. That is best investment you can make. Then you make your own judgments.
I just bought the a6400, anxiously waiting for delivery, but after watching more comparison videos, AS EXPECTED, I’m more inclined into Fuji... :-/ damn...
Hey good review! Just one question you guyz read off que cards? Write and remember your lines? Or total talking flying off the seat of your pants? Just realized I never think about how much time you spend trying to make it flow simple executed brilliantly.
Weve never scripted any of our shows. We do make research notes, but otherwise we just let things flow the way they flow. We feel it gives a more natural and sincere impression.
@@niccollsvideo Cool stuff keep on doing what you do! More Wooden Nickel productions although! They are great!
Looking forward to future videos with the pedal bar!
I tak Fuji because I love XF 23mm f/1.4 combo.
I love Fuji lenses and Sony bodies.
Picked up the A6400. Love it. Fits in my pocket and I take it everywhere. My A7R3 ends up staying at home most days unless I really need it.
I prefer my photos and video to be in focus, so I chose the Sony. Can't fix blurry in post.
I've heard xt-30's focus is pretty good
How does the canon m50 compare to these? Dual Pixel AF and Color are still good right?
Great comparison, the xt30's video record limit is a very annoying limit. I think it's mostly due to heat but more testing is require to figure that out.
It is. When Fuji used the A6300 sensor for their 24MP cameras, they still had one of the recording limits in the industry. Processing X-Trans is more intensive than standard Bayer, so it takes more processing and therefore creates more heat, to do the same thing a simple Bayer sensor does.
Please can you do a comparison of the D500, EOS 7D2 and A6400 for BIF etc?
Oh, yes, I’d love to see that!
Hi chris,
I am just into photography. And weight, handling and image quality is very important to me.
Is there a lot of difference in their image quality?
Which of them is more comfortable to use?
What will i miss out from the other if i choose either of them?
Are sigma 16mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.4 really good enough to choose sony a6400?
No doubt fujifilm lenses are amazing but they are nearly double the price.
Will that less expensive combo be sufficient for me?
Answers to these questions might help me decide.
Thank you
Wondering if there's been a firmware update for the Fuji in the time since this video has been published that would narrow the Sony's autofocus advantage?
Hi. Tell me please, what kind of camera do you think the A6400 kit 18-135 or Fuji X-T30 kit 18-55 takes? I do not know how to process photos and videos. Need a camera for home use. Shoot nature on fishing and baby. Fuji likes color presets, but autofocus is also important. A lot of bloggers said that Fuji AF is worse, losing face.Thanks
Love the looks of the Fuji and the lens options. But I tried both in the shop and for my hands the Fuji just feels not comfortable. Like it will fall out of my hand. The grip not working for me. Sony grip feels way more secure and comfortable for me. Nikon Z50 feels good in my hand too. But so far I am leaning towards the a6400.
I have a6300 and xt2. I use the sony on a gimbal for videos and the fuji for still photos.
A6400 in 24/25 dont have crop like 30fps in 4k :D why you use video from A6300?
Hard time to choose, i bought them both. switching between the camera's keep's me motivated somehow.
how was the 2 cams?
Hello! Which one is better for video vlogging or video cinematic making? Xt30 or a6400? Thank you so much!!
Does the new version 3.0 firmware update for Sony a6400 change the tilt on these cameras?
That's why I buy xt30 when it comes to my needs and specs. I love it! Nice review ❤️
It's like Fuji made the Canon style camera we wanted. You guys are onto something. Keep testing and comparing the video features 👍
If you have a full frame Sony the lenses fit a 6400 so a 6400 can be a lower cost second body that also increases reach.
Can also "increase reach" on the FF Sony's - just whack it into crop mode. Especially on the higher res models.
Go for Sony if you like to spent more time editing post production . I go for Fuji color and one thing Fuji stand out is monochrom b&W acros if you like street photography b&w then Fuji is one to have .
How about the choice of the lens from 3 party manufacturer, which brand has more options?
hello sir.
which one would be better choice for video recording between fujifilm xa7 and Sony a6000
Just bought the x-t30 and don't regret it one bit. I never even considered Fuji until a few weeks ago but the colors just blew me away and I am discovering more and more features that make the x-t30 (and xt3) so great!
Which one is better for vedio
X-T30 or X-T3
@@zepzop8471 I would say they are very similar since they have the same sensor with the only differences being that the xt3 can do 4k 60fps instead of 30fps on the x-t30 and it doesn't have the 10 and 15 minutes recording limit that the x-t30 has. So that makes the xt3 a bit better you could say if you have the budget.
@@itsxandr but x-t30 is new model as compared to x-T3
@@zepzop8471 yes x-t30 is a bit newer
Still so unsure which way to go.
A6400
the nice thing about sony is that, from what I understand, its autofocus system excels not only within the category, but also in any other comparison, so you would have a camera which in one important aspect is outstanding....
Precisely the reason I bought Sony. What good are sharp lenses, pretty colors, and fancy dials when your images are out of focus?
The 6400 for me, I'd rather the solid af there is nothing worse fighting the camera to focus on what you want. Rolling shutter not a problem to me as I barely shoot video. For others Sony does need to update the old 24 MP bionz x sensor up it read out speeds.
It is actually a new sensor that added 425 contrast points. There was a discussion about it on eoshd, www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/28537-eoshd-opinion-the-sony-a6400-is-an-absolute-turkey/page/7/
Androidlad has put out some sony sensor documents in the past that were picked up by sonyalpharumors. He writes this in response to tweak on page 7 there -
"On 1/20/2019 at 4:45 PM, tweak said:
I just don't expect Sony has changed their dated LSI or heat sinks (especially not on a budget model).
They upgraded the sensor to IMX293 with 20nm lithography and new readout circuitry, only the analog photosites remain unchanged. " Andrew makes a comment that it's the same and he provides some more info so check it out if interested.
Have not seen one of those 'Peddle-Pubs' for a while but we certainly used to have them here in London, UK a couple of years ago.
I've been torn between the X-T30 ii and the A6400 looking at packages with Zooms. In Australia the Fuji packages with the excellent for the money 18-55 kit lens in an affordable package. The Sony A6400 on the other hand tends to be packaged with the E 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 which just isn't nearly as nice.
It did cross my mind that if I purchased an A6400 as a body only there might be a good offering from someone like Sigma that might compete better with the Fuji 18-55 whilst still being reasonably priced. Does anyone have any suggestions there?
Siggy 18-50
And U forget about 24-bit internal audio recording in Fujifilm X-T30
For image quality, nikon d7500 or fuji xt30?
Colors are a priority for me thats why i'm still Nikon DX. But would upgrade to a Fuji out of the two.
The Sony has upgrade possibilities if you buy full frame lenses. I might buy a A6500 to complement my A7III - that will give me 1.5x focal length on every lens, giving me twice as many different focal lengths on my primes.
You can set the A7iii to crop mode and get 1.5x. Please send the $1000 I just saved you to P.O. Box.......... 😉
You can adjust the colours but it is much harder to bring back out of focus subjects
fuji x-t30 vs canon m50 vs lumix g80 whitch is the best for video and photos? thank you for ansver
Hi, Which bump is easier to manage on a small gimbal ? Thanks
Which one is better ? I will not answer that but I will tell you which one I bought the a6400 which I mainly use for video, no record limit, tilting screen and no record limit are very important for me.
Hey which of these would be best for kids and pet stills