Angela van den Bogerd took Bonus at height of PO fraud
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
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She has to do jail time if not there will be a outcry by the British public that this country has never seen before.
No there won’t. The lazy British don’t do anything but moan online.
She’s a hard faced individual lying through her teeth
A face carved out of granite, with a heart to match.
She had his death on her watch how can she live with herself ,she will be remembered in history as that person who lied and put her untruth statements on record for all to see.
She and Vennels should have all of their assets taken away and used to help compensate the sub postmasters and then they should both be jailed.
She has no empathy should be sent to prison . The post office was run by Charletens.
......'was?'
She like a stone cold killer. No empathy or remorse in her responses. I would like to know how much bonus they all were given. That should be taken away along with jail time for all those involved. I bet she's the talk of the village and joins the list of ex post office bosses most hated in the country right now, ranking number 2.
Awful nasty piece of work, she has to spend some years in prison and pay a very substantial fine.
She wasn’t protecting the Post Office she was protecting her position and those of her predecessors ,a cohort of some of the most despicable people possible to find unfortunately none of them like those in government and their dishonest and corrupt entourage will ever hear a cell door close on them ,the whole system is rotten to the core
And some correspondents fail to recognise my condemnation of this puerile, failing country on returning here to serve!! SERVE??? There is nothing left to serve save the Royal, much maligned Family!!!
She was dishonest then and she is dishonest now! And I would imagine she is also being investigated by the Police. Shocking really that this scandal spreads so far and wide and ruined so many people’s lives.
Hello Deborah, I understand the police are watching the inquiry with great interest..
Watching just isn’t enough . They don’t have to wait until the end surely, this is the government again using delaying tactics. Alan Bates is right, they might have to use private prosecutions in the absence any real action from police or government.
@@johnwainwright6205the police are doing nothing.however if I bad mouthed her the police would be knocking on my door.this woman will escape scot free and waltz in to a top job soon..I have said it time and time again not one of these crooks will go to jail
@@michaelmcginley7930 exactly this.
@@johnwainwright6205I sincerely hope so
She Took A Bonus........This woman is Unbelievable .........Prison is waiting
Don't be silly you must also believe in the tooth fairy
'Her credibility seriously challenged' when her victims lost everything g including their lives!!!!
When she is lying, she can’t remember anything, but when she denies something her memory is very clear !
Throw her in prison.
That won't happen because she can pay for the best lawyers.money does not speak it lies
All of these top ranking post office managers should be stripped of all their assets to recompense the fined and imprisoned sub postmasters!
RIP Martin.....
Karma will bite this gruesome creature.
Rotten to the core ,she knew exactly what was going on and should be sent to prison .
She is effectively a civil servant. Civil servants never go to prison.
@@StuartJTime to change that.
@@gemmag.2988 it won't change. Both Labour and Conservatives want more control over our lives, which means more government. An ever larger civil service, who protect their own.
@@StuartJ We can demand change! We greatly outnumber these evil weaklings.
There's a well known fact that psycopaths don't always go down the serial killer route,..but they can make excellent bosses, because of their total lack of empathy,or remorse. She is the perfect example of such a person.... Probably secretly enjoying it... horrendous
I have worked with people like this, I bet you have too! Shameful!
Climbers ugh ugh narcissist
So true.
Who the hell put this incompetent women in charge? She misled the courts and happily watched innocent people jailed as she enjoyed her huge bonus. She needs to be jailed for perverting the course of justice.
I fail to understand how anyone can protect a brand at the loss of their own integrity. Lied to a high court judge, she is nothing better than a 2-bit street robber.
They are protecting themselves, not the brand. They have to keep the lie going to stop it unraveling.
The shame and greed of this woman is horrific.
A face made of granite...
With a heart to match.
She got a bonus for LYING and bullying! She should hold her head in SHAME, however I don't believe she's ever felt that emotion. What goes around comes around madam.
Spot on my friend. I've seen an AI Robot display more emotions. Her ability to lie is almost award winning. Hopefully karma will knock on her door at some point
I hope that someone walks out on her after 33 years because they have more morals than she ever will.
When are these so obviously guilty post office people, who sit there saying black is white or white is black or I don’t remember, going to be put in bloody jail? !!!
Something from Mc Beth& 3 witches
Jail and repay bonus with interest
When the cross examiner asked her, did you receive a bonus?" the next question should have been, how much and are you going to pay it back ,
Who’s paying for Van den Bogerd’s lawyer?
Probably the post office
Her lawyer is very good she's well briefed
@@MRJERRYCURTIN 20 year's to prep.
The devil.
Taxpayers I would guess. That is the way things work in this country.
Heard from amongst the shouted media questions after the hearing:
"Are YOU now going to jump in front of a bus, Ms van den Bogerd?"
It's odd that so far not a single witness has come clean and thrown their colleagues under the bus.
@@smorrisby They've had a couple of decades to practise their answers with their defense lawyers. So many of POL witnesses who were culpable in the process of helping to convict innocent people appear extremely well briefed. So far they're all keeping their heads together, but once any of them find they're personally cornered the finger pointing and deflection should start. Let's hope there's enough irrefutable pieces of evidence that can put as many as possible behind bars.
She left with her credibilty NOT challenged but IN TATTERS !!!!
I keep on saying this but her facial expressions speak volumes.
She gives herself away as a liar and also having some sort of mental health disorder like narcissism etc.
spot on
Her only expression is that of a hard-hearted liar and perjurer.
She hasn't got any
Time for proper court sentence and prison. And she can pay for all this and her lawyer
She must face jail
There’s a word for people like Bogert. Actually there’s quite a few. None of them flattering.
Time this became a criminal court. Prison for these evil people.
Justice? Let's wait and see, But,don't hold your breath,!
This is the biggest mis-carriage of justice that I have seen in my long life thus far ! The people at the top of the shop here were well aware of the underlying problems with the program in the system - yet they chose to stay silent, and as a result, a lot of lives and families were destroyed to the point of loss of life through despair. The people who allowed this to happen are culpable in the extreme, and from what we are seeing now, the only thing that seems to occupy their mind is saving their own butts ? Just look at this woman's body language !! - she is seething with self preservation, and I haven't seen any compassion for the victims that is worth talking about. If the police and the judiciary of this country do not prosecute and punish the people involved to a degree that fits their crime, then THEY should be the next ones in Court ?
the truth will come out and with luck she will get 5-10 for perjury and perverting the course of justice
Jail if this woman escapes prison this country's a joke.
Pure filth
She's cold a liar trying to save her own skin from perjury , they have all been briefed to have no recollection she's the most hated person in the UK along with barroness Mone,
There is no end to their disgusting behaviour.
When will the government force them to actually provide redress to the sub postmasters instead of allowing these dreadful people to continue challenging every claim.
I'm not surprised at all. Why would anyone be even vaguely surprised? She doesn't see anything wrong with what she's done and she never did.
A Mouffette type narcissist through and through!! Send her to exile in Monti-shit-show along with the others!!!
She looks what she is , enough said .
The very sad thing about the Post Office inquiry is that its so easy to recognise the characteristics of Post Office witness in the work place.
Public sector workers get bonuses and honours.......regardless of performance or competency in the job.That's the first lesson learned from the PO Horizon scandal,but then we already knew this was the case with the public sector anyway.But it's always good to hear the truth about these matters in a public forum from the undeserving beneficiaries of such munificence from the hard working tax payer who funds it all.
Absolutely disgusting what happened to those people, however would it be any different in any of these large corporate businesses if they also had the power to investigate and prosecute their own employees.
Sure angie will willingly refund it with interest and penalties ... And pay the court costs for the trip to prison
Taking her responses at face value, she’s either lying (in which case she’s pure evil) or telling the truth (in which case she’s utterly and completely incompetent as a very high earning + bonuses executive).
It’s fundamentally one or the other isn’t it?
What is becoming more apparent is these senior management employees have little or no moral integrity .
Money over lives, Just blows my mind. If she doesn't face consequences there's no justice here.
The Management of the Post Office knew that because of modern technology (Emails, Facetime and the like) the business was shrinking. They all had a siege mentality. They would do absolutely anything to save their own necks. Of course the knew the Horizon system was the problem, and sadly the knew that their actions where destroying lives and reputations, but the ploughed on relentlessly.
How can this woman sleep at night
This lot of thugs are horrible ..how this woman and others just refuse to take any responsibility for all this and apart from one chap seems oblivious to the errors of this system failures .. to address the failures and just let innocent people swing .. when she was warned about self incriminating evidence by the chair we see how close this enquiry has got these thugs .. stuck up and snotty nosed people in positions beyond their capabilities that refused to see blatant wrong doings . Give that money back .. !
I think the main question is who authorised Horizon remote access, who in previous government had knowledge of this part of the program, remote access would have been debated at some point within the PO and possibly government due to the legal impact, let's not forget the PO has used Horizon to extort money from thousands of subpostmasters.
She is and has lied through her teeth. She deserves to go to prison for a very long time. Bonuses and pensions stripped. An evil person
What the hell did she get a bonus for!
She and her fellow cronies should not only be indicted for their criminal actions but also, they should be held liable financially for their criminal actions. They should lose everything, including their pensions and even their children's university savings they intended to pay for an elite university.
This is one hard faced woman, she could split wood just by looking at it. Such a despicable person.
Just normal capitalistic operating procedures, she'll have no shortage of job offers after this act.
She has to be prosecuted
,she has to be tested in a court of law .
The charge sheets here are enormous with no sign of cooperation with the inquiry and token apologies far, far too late. Custodial sentences and repayment of all bonuses are very much in the public interest.
And none of them will be locked up 🤢
Why isn't this a criminal fraud case???? She needs jail time
The very worst of the worst
She's pure evil!
unfortunately all their questions dont seem to make any impact on her- just coldly sitting there unfazed.....also none of them will face any criminal charges
Well trained by her legal team.
Clearly she and other senior management were more interested in their bonuses than running the Post Offices in a fair and honest way.
Even though she and other senior management knew there were issues with the computer software, they continued with legal action against their Post Masters.
Jail is a good place for all of the senior management at the Post Office at the time.
@@gavinivers8941 agree but the post office is effectively the same as the UK govt, so unlikely they will face any jail time--will be hushed up/glossed over
@@gavinivers8941 correct she will not face any jail time
@@joe2grand Not this time,
Credibility seriously challenged? Would've thought, at this point, totally destroyed.
She has absolutely no remorse or regret for how she went about her work.
We need criminal prosecutions and judgement by jury. People should be tried in a criminal court, surely we have all the evidence?
The first response this woman has to finding out that Mr Griffiths had walked in front of a bus...we need to hire a media lawyer to protect the post office brand and share price....not...oh my god...what have we done...lets call the family...
Wow, bloated salaries and bonuses. I've heard on a number of occasions from these clowns of the concern for public money. Another question I have is, who is paying for Mrs Van Den Bogerd's legal fees, the public?
The whole Post Office saga is very worrying. The public has lost faith in our democratic system.
Should be made to pay it back
Do not collect your pension or bonus, don't go home to your masion, go straight to jail
She has to go to prison for fraud
Give the money back NOW
nothing ever happens to these THINGS,if the truth hadn’t of come out,they’d carry on lying,and taking the money
She must go to jail
Whether it is gross negligence, gross misconduct, or perjury (or maybe all three) she has a case to answer. And when it comes to sentencing lack of remorse is a factor.
She needs to go to prison
Hence the phrase:
_Bogerding_ the bonuses.
Birmingham City council biggest council in Europe got bankrupt because of exactly the same reason, IT systems and people like her in charge of it
she needs to go to prison and pay a huge fine too
She was not sorry she has to go to jail no doubt about it justice has to be done
Send her to prison and any one else who new what was happening and did nothing
O! Come on..... You think anything will happen to these!...... OF COURSE NOT! FRIENDS WILL HAVE FRIENDS. "Give me my" "Blood Money".
Correct
Hard-faced & without empathy
What kind of lawyer would actually what to defend her and who's paying the lawyers
She should be jailed for Perjury as she knew about the Fujitsu Horizon IT problems and knew that Fujitsu could remotely access sub postmaster / mistress accounts and continued to lie in the British Courts. She is as guilty of Fraud and Deception as Fujitsu are. Her Bonuses should also be seized together with all the remaining Bonuses paid to top Post Office executives for the manipulation fraud and deception through the Fujitsu Horizon IT scandal and returned in compensation to all the victim sub postmaster / mistresses caught up in this scandal.
💯lying should be locked up for purgery
She should be paying every penny back on her way to prison both her and vennles deserve to be locked up!!!!
How much bonus did she receive for lying to a high court judge
Lovely bonus after destroying other people's lives.
Lock her up!!!!!
Hard faced is an understatement. She could be in horror films. Well, she's already a monster.
This lying manipulator...... she is such a liar and should be facing multiple perjury charges as a starting point. We need to see two faced lying Post Office executives (seen here) and their lying lawyers and investigators serving jail time for this and heavy compensation for their victims and the families of lost victims.
Lying through her teeth.
Lives ruined, bonuses paid, there is something very wrong about all this.
They're already being briefed and deals being done for reduced if at all any sentences are forthcoming. It'll be " I'll tell you this if you'll give me that"....
She is Vile. Jail her.
Ive shed a tear for Parvod. He is a broken man and to see this cold hearted emtionless cow matter of factly saying " No " to some of these questions just boils my blood........she needs to share a cell with paula vennells and a few others. If not major financial penalties that will hurt them, they hurt these innocent SPMs so why not
She didnt stop to answer questions. Say as little as possible, isnt it, Angela
A stone cold killer right there.....