She can't admit anything as she would technically be admitting she comitted various crimes and once the inquiry is over she could face charges if the police get off their lazy arses and do something
A truly loathsome woman and I hope she stands trial at some point. I cannot understand how she was ever promoted into such high office in the Post Office? She comes across as totally incompetent to me.
Hopefully she will be charged with perverting the course of justice and get a taste of what she dished out to the SPMs as a result of her covering up and lies under oath
She was promoted for towing the line this is what is going on in all business these days why do you think civil service nhs and all the privatise companies and councils are so poorly run and bankrupt
Civil Servant here. I have seen with my own eyes the decline in the Civil Service over the last 20 yeasr or so. It's staggering how the people who have elbowed the way to the senior positions are just so self-serving and socioparthic. They give talks about their "career journey", i.e how they climbed the greasy pole and are so brilliant, in which they lay bare that they just moved from job to job and hopped from different Civil Service departments on their rise. They have no expertise in anything at all, other than in getting themselves promoted. If someone was needed to close an office and effectively make long-serving loyal staff redundant, these are the characters that happily volunteer to do it (and later use it as an example in their promotion applications in support of how they are brilliant at making difficult decisions). I've even imagined that if it was decided that 10% f people had to be exterminated, these ar ethe people who would happily draw up lists and get it done. I've even come across a few people who I concluded were stratight up psycopaths.
This isn't a court of law, it's an official enquiry. (although witnesses have to swear on oath to tell the truth) The judiciary will be looking at this and decide where we go from here. Personally, i think heads will roll eventually. This is why she was playing dumb for most of the two days. If you are interested, the Paula Vennells appearance next month is going to be a must watch. (May 22nd) There is lots more mileage in this scandal to come. If its proven that these people lied in a court of law (they did, but it must be proven) over the prosecutions, they are in deep trouble.
@@diannepenny407 You are right. Its going to be interesting. It's going to be hard for her to follow Van Den Bogerd in playing dumb. She is very close to the top of the tree, so blaming others is not going to do it. Don't forget, Alan Bates will settle for nothing else but seeing heads roll. He has been like a dog with a bone for 20+ years, and is not going to let it go any time soon. I hope he gets a crowdfunding appeal going, so he/they can bring private prosecution, if it needs it. They have the country behind them. I have the utmost regard for him.
@@mikewilson8513 Thank you for explaining it. I hope all turns out well for the victims. I've been watching the 4 part series on PBS and will watch the Real Story documentary this weekend. This should have never happened to anyone.
Because it is an inquiry and they all piss in each others pocket. So many times I have watched lawyers off the hook during this case, its not much of an "inquiry".
Nick Wallace deserves formal recognition for his tireless work to uncover the Post Office's staffs intentional obstruction, consealing the truth about their egregious actions over so many years. Thank you sir!
It's "Wallis", but yes I agree. I loved his 18 hour long audiobook on the whole affair and have listened to every podcast episode he has done. I hope to meet him in Guildford on 15 May, and also Seema Misra (the SPM who was sent to prison when pregnant).
A total liar, without any credibility whatsoever. Well done for the KC's who didn't mince any words on her. If anyone deserves to be held criminally accountable over this, she does.
She is currently working as an HR contractor and has recently overseen making 100 staff redundant at a company called Integral UK Ltd, she must be so proud of her contribution to society
There never is anyone to blame when the obvious culprit is the government and its aliases,they collectively disown any knowledge of anything pertaining to the case .they know full well they are to blame but hide behind ignorance,you try that one and they will claim ignorance of the law is no excuse
@@Mikados_Advark12 obviously you don’t do irony,or even sarcasm is lost on you ,Neil wells comment is sarcasm ,of course it’s someone at fault this goes to the top of government it’s their company a government quango run by a corrupt board headed by venells and others
YES !!! I am staggered at the arrogance and 'pushback' attitude of all of them, no contrition and when some try you can see it is through gritted teeth
Look at them, they knew that people were innocent and they did not care. People's lives were destroyed. Look at all of them.... the carried on earning millions- going on luxury holiday- buying expensive cars and the innocent people went to prison, Justice is required. My gratitude to all of you for exposing all of these dishonest people.
She's paid a huge salary, in part to deflect and deny in order to protect the business, but in the end she has to account for her actions. If she won't own up to malpractice and wrongdoing she's a coward.
This person deserves to stand in front of a jury and have a fair for the seeming crimes they have committed . If the police don't act we need to follow Alan Bates and crowdfund such a process. We cannot let these people get away without a trial. My cheque book is ready if no action is taken. Let's have some proper justice for teflon executives for a change and get faith back in justice. Please join me if we need to Crowd fund for postmaster justice.
Her whole demeanour is very hard faced, she showed nothing but contempt for the press on her entrance and exit to the enquiry. She read an apology with absolutely no sincerity, I doubt she wrote it herself and it seemed like she had been instructed to apologise, and she loathed doing it. Throughout her evidence she was elusive, yet pedantic over her use of language and certain technicalities. Her contempt for the enquiry and for the British legal system is astounding.
They all got massive bonus payouts even when they knew the convictions were wrong but they got paid to keep their mouths shut or lose the bonus. All bonus payments from when Horizon was introduced should be clawed back by the Government and used to compensate the victims of their fraud.
I write this from Cape Town. I have grown up & lived in Africa throughout my entire life. I am therefore, more than familiar with lies, cover-ups & corruption, often covered by manipulation & the desire for control over others... Having only followed this story from a distance, I then saw the fantastic ITV Docu Series, very recently.... My hope, is that, with everything going on in the world, this story will not be washed over & swept away. Please don't allow this to happen. Full justice MUST be served, including full & immediate compensation, in the LARGEST possible way... It will stand upon the following legal decisions, to allow the UK to separate itself from the other material, despotic dictatorships the rest of the world thrives upon...
What do you expect she is a woman of a type which is now considered leadership material, they will NEVER take any responsibility for anything. This is part of the massive problem we have in the leadership in this country on the whole.
Slightly mysogenistic view, in my opinion. You can find plenty of men with the same credentials. They don't stand out because business and politics is still people largely by men. Both sexes can be equally awful and the people at the the top of the post office are proving this. Adam Crozier to name but one.
Colin, while you consider leadership at top levels in this country, I do hope you are talking and taking into account both sex’s. We have seen leadership on all levels and men are equally responsible for never taking responsibility for their failings. Look no further than the Conservative government. Let’s JUST start with Johnson and take it from there.
Wow lied all they way through she's a coward and the others involved ( being proven they was involved ) should be held accountable and prosecuted for knowing and doing NOTHING, disgusting change laws if needs be so EVERYBODY involved can be charged again disgusting and disgraceful !
To anyone listening to this woman the contempt in her answers is shocking. Her disregard to the absolute obviousness of her knowingly lying about her causing catastrophic damage of immense proportion to all of those postmasters HAS TO HAVE. A LENGTHY PRISON SENTENCE
I am amazed and hope this goes further. She may not concede she knew but she did receive the information. If it's that easy to sidestep accountability after receiving information highlighting a clear issue then God help us all! Surely it is up to her to digest the detail because she is paid to do that and make recommendation/proceed as necessary. If the former is the case then it is not necessary to have an expert filling these roles is it! As for the CEO - "a woman of the cloth" - there's a nice warm place waiting for her.
We were all totally incompetant that maybe true but she has been proven a liar.upset with the speed of compensation. Gaslighting even after proven she was deeply involved in the conspiracy.
35 Years - She knew everyone. She managed upwards. She knew and engaged with everyone of importance. She had a personal text after leaving from Paula Vennels. Knowledge was power and her personal brand and she got promoted as she got things done come what May.
I don't think gender comes into it. A liar's a liar and the post office is full of them at this high level. I remember being appalled by Adam crozier when he was in charge.
They sound like the Nazis at Nuremberg in 1946 where they think they were entirely justified in inflicting pain and suffering on the innocent and claimed to be minor functionaries who were “only obeying orders”!
She decided to leave. She wasn’t made redundant. But, we are told, she was made redundant. Did Post Office make redundancy payment to her? How much was that?
She and her colleagues at the top put innocent people in prison. They now need to see what it feels like. Make them accountable in front of the courts, not an enquiry.
She was exceptionally competent in her role. She had full knowledge of everything she did, and deliberately contributed to stripping the flesh off innocent Subpostmasters. She followed the Party line with zero consideration for the human devastation caused by her action, long after becoming aware that there were flaws with the Horizon/Fujitsu computer code. She is now pretending to be incompetent in an attempt to avoid a prison sentence. Long may she be incarcerated...
How sad that these post office personnel on trial now , who have devastated and caused several to take their own lives ,utterly destroying the lives and families of others , giving as if it helps their hollow apologies in my view it’s disgraceful. They are not truthful about their involvement in this travesty . I still don’t know how they was aloud to prosecuted these hard working honest workers. This should have been investigated by the police . 👮🏻
I would like to know what these senior positioned people were exactly doing day to day in their jobs, when they now say they don't have any idea about the facts in question? How do they expect us to believe these blatant lies about their own culpability in this disgusting crime. She's as guilty as all the other bosses of gross mismanagement, especially Vennells.
You can see by the careful use of words that she was up to her neck in the cover up her memory was selective as to her recall no wonder the Judge picked holes in her statement definitely one for the police enquiry
Seems she has been carefully coached by lawyers on how to reply, something it seems they have been doing for years. Puzzled why the same company is supposed to be running the compensation scheme, no wonder they continue to lie and delay everything.
I have to say, I don't believe very much coming from any of them but, this thing has the top step of the podium. She appears to be a vile individual. Hopefully there's a warm cell somewhere with the names of a few of them on the doors, hopefully this one will face a judge and jury above them all.
None of them are willing to take any responsibility! Well that is OK, not a problem! Instead we have a prison term of 120 years that we will share out to all those involved, guilty or not! Then you can feel the same as the innocent did, watching you life ebe away!
Hear is an example why uk is stuck in a rut. A person who has made negative contribution paid a high salary and bonus and could not even say what her role was. How many others are at this game. I would say thousands in HR are at it
A couple of key traits coming through in her testimony - "Magical thinking", misrembering events, lack of empathy and denying any responsibility. If I didn't know any better I'd say she was displaying all the hallmarks of NPD...
Everything Angie baby enters the court the song by Shaggy 'It wasn't me' should be played, it is perfect for so many of these recent witnesses and those coming over the weeks ahead.
I cant comprehend how so many of these people can't remember!, even when the evidence is put before them!. They're apologies are empty half hearted dribble to try to save their own skin!.
A very slippery woman. It wasn't just emails pointing out Horizon "defects" (they're _bugs,_ and no amount of POL spin changes that) but journalists asking questions, articles in Computer Weekly and Private Eye and so on - but all throughout her testimony, she didn't "recall" (a journalist on the second day asked her at the court entrance if she was going to be able to recall more that day!), and she didn't see emails sent to her, it was someone else who dealt with X, Y and Z. Jason Beer became so exasperated he actually asked her at one point, "So what _was_ your job?" To which she just gave another slippery answer.
I'm puzzled she said she took redundancy then said she left on her own accord Did they structure her leaving as redundancy as a way of giving her massive leaving package! They all knew the wheels were coming off the waggon especially her.
Where did they think so many Postmasters were hiding all this money? Surely personal bank accounts were checked? No new cars, boats, houses, lavish lifestyles seem to have emerged on a grand scale!?
Why were these people so desperate to prosecute the innocent knowing full well the evidence was severely compromised. What hateful, vile creatures they are. No morality whatsoever
This woman had done exactly what all the others have done! She has lied, evaded questions and conveniently forgot about information that would exonerate the sub postmasters. At some point these slimy lowlife need to be held accountable and stand trial but this will take years to achieve at huge expense to the tax payer.
She can't remember the emails!!!? lies, and more lies . She needs to go to jail.
She can't admit anything as she would technically be admitting she comitted various crimes and once the inquiry is over she could face charges if the police get off their lazy arses and do something
She’s so compromised and a complete liar. She needs her pension taking away for her part in all this, the locking up and the key throwing away
people in high places all have this trait...
In addition, clawback of all the bonuses she received over the period.
I so agree !
@@tenkloosterhermanfor sure !
Even if proven shes a liar she will still get away with it
A truly loathsome woman and I hope she stands trial at some point. I cannot understand how she was ever promoted into such high office in the Post Office? She comes across as totally incompetent to me.
Hopefully she will be charged with perverting the course of justice and get a taste of what she dished out to the SPMs as a result of her covering up and lies under oath
She was promoted for towing the line this is what is going on in all business these days why do you think civil service nhs and all the privatise companies and councils are so poorly run and bankrupt
Nepotism. 🤷♂️
? No family connections at all here.
Civil Servant here. I have seen with my own eyes the decline in the Civil Service over the last 20 yeasr or so. It's staggering how the people who have elbowed the way to the senior positions are just so self-serving and socioparthic. They give talks about their "career journey", i.e how they climbed the greasy pole and are so brilliant, in which they lay bare that they just moved from job to job and hopped from different Civil Service departments on their rise. They have no expertise in anything at all, other than in getting themselves promoted. If someone was needed to close an office and effectively make long-serving loyal staff redundant, these are the characters that happily volunteer to do it (and later use it as an example in their promotion applications in support of how they are brilliant at making difficult decisions). I've even imagined that if it was decided that 10% f people had to be exterminated, these ar ethe people who would happily draw up lists and get it done. I've even come across a few people who I concluded were stratight up psycopaths.
She's lying all the way through her testimony. I'm American and don't know the UK justice system but she absolutely needs to be held accountable.
This isn't a court of law, it's an official enquiry. (although witnesses have to swear on oath to tell the truth) The judiciary will be looking at this and decide where we go from here. Personally, i think heads will roll eventually. This is why she was playing dumb for most of the two days.
If you are interested, the Paula Vennells appearance next month is going to be a must watch. (May 22nd)
There is lots more mileage in this scandal to come. If its proven that these people lied in a court of law (they did, but it must be proven) over the prosecutions, they are in deep trouble.
@@mikewilson8513 They are indeed... Looking forward to seeing how PV tries to play this.
@@diannepenny407 You are right. Its going to be interesting. It's going to be hard for her to follow Van Den Bogerd in playing dumb. She is very close to the top of the tree, so blaming others is not going to do it.
Don't forget, Alan Bates will settle for nothing else but seeing heads roll. He has been like a dog with a bone for 20+ years, and is not going to let it go any time soon.
I hope he gets a crowdfunding appeal going, so he/they can bring private prosecution, if it needs it. They have the country behind them. I have the utmost regard for him.
The arrogance of those who know they will never be held to account for their actions
@@mikewilson8513 Thank you for explaining it. I hope all turns out well for the victims. I've been watching the 4 part series on PBS and will watch the Real Story documentary this weekend. This should have never happened to anyone.
I was aware of it a decade ago, and I don’t work for the post office … she’s a lair , a criminal, she HAS to go to Jail
The sooner she faces criminal charges the better. Her partner in crime Vennels needs to be charged too.
No one is goingbto jail they do deserve to but it won't happen
@@michaelmcginley7930"WE" can ALL LIVE IN THAT IT WILL HAPPEN!!!!!
Why are lawyers not telling these people they are lying under oath, and going in hard on them!!!
Because it is an inquiry and they all piss in each others pocket. So many times I have watched lawyers off the hook during this case, its not much of an "inquiry".
Because they are part of this countries institutions that keep the ordinary people down .These poor people will never get the truth.
This afternoon (Friday) one of the lawyers, Edward Henry KC, did accuse her of lying. There’s a video clip of this - he didn’t hold back.
Oath means NOTHING TOO THEM!!!!!
Nick Wallace deserves formal recognition for his tireless work to uncover the Post Office's staffs intentional obstruction, consealing the truth about their egregious actions over so many years. Thank you sir!
Oh stop grovelling
I agree. 👍🏻
Praise due to those who called this out. Look at the computer weekly articles. It's like a complete history of this sorry affair.
It's "Wallis", but yes I agree. I loved his 18 hour long audiobook on the whole affair and have listened to every podcast episode he has done. I hope to meet him in Guildford on 15 May, and also Seema Misra (the SPM who was sent to prison when pregnant).
His book is very well written. He put in the hard graft for many years supporting and driving this case.
A total liar, without any credibility whatsoever. Well done for the KC's who didn't mince any words on her. If anyone deserves to be held criminally accountable over this, she does.
Put her in prison
Cannot understand why she hasn’t been arrested..???
“She didn’t take any responsibility” but she took the MONEY !
and a man took his life.!!!
She is currently working as an HR contractor and has recently overseen making 100 staff redundant at a company called Integral UK Ltd, she must be so proud of her contribution to society
This is the sort of slime & villainy within big business.
And government
Paula Vennels. Remember the old ‘fire and brimstone’ people of the cloth. No compassion whatsoever.
But they didn't need compassion. They needed the truth.
@@breaghboo-gc7ub They knew the truth, but it was more convenient for them to ignore it
Prison prison prison
Yes please !
Hundreds of innocent people's lives utterly destroyed but its no-ones fault.
There never is anyone to blame when the obvious culprit is the government and its aliases,they collectively disown any knowledge of anything pertaining to the case .they know full well they are to blame but hide behind ignorance,you try that one and they will claim ignorance of the law is no excuse
Utterly untrue. It was someone’s fault. Stop standing up for the Post Office.
@@Mikados_Advark12 obviously you don’t do irony,or even sarcasm is lost on you ,Neil wells comment is sarcasm ,of course it’s someone at fault this goes to the top of government it’s their company a government quango run by a corrupt board headed by venells and others
It is an ironic statement, not a defence of the PO.
She’s sorry she got CAUGHT!
YES !!! I am staggered at the arrogance and 'pushback' attitude of all of them, no contrition and when some try you can see it is through gritted teeth
Look at them, they knew that people were innocent and they did not care. People's lives were destroyed. Look at all of them.... the carried on earning millions- going on luxury holiday- buying expensive cars and the innocent people went to prison, Justice is required. My gratitude to all of you for exposing all of these dishonest people.
They know it was all wrong but did nothing, Fake apologies, still no empathy or shame…..They all look guilty…..All covering their own backs….Prison
Won’t be there backs they’re covering if the go to jail 😂
WHEN they go to jail, not if
their
Some proper punctuation please.
She's paid a huge salary, in part to deflect and deny in order to protect the business, but in the end she has to account for her actions. If she won't own up to malpractice and wrongdoing she's a coward.
" You lied to the high court and still got your bonus? " response: " yes " GOTCHA. Perjury charges incoming.
I wish, but that wasn't quite how it was put. The lawyer was becoming that she got the bonus, DESPITE what the High Court judge had said.
Her attitude towards the family of the suicide postmaster was pathetic. Only Thames Water would applaud her actions. What do her family think of her?
ANGLIAN Water too.
This person deserves to stand in front of a jury and have a fair for the seeming crimes they have committed .
If the police don't act we need to follow Alan Bates and crowdfund such a process. We cannot let these people get away without a trial.
My cheque book is ready if no action is taken.
Let's have some proper justice for teflon executives for a change and get faith back in justice.
Please join me if we need to
Crowd fund for postmaster justice.
Ironic really because they FORCED the wrongly convicted postmasters to take responsibility for something with which that they had nothing to do.
Now relieved from her latest job…I wonder why! Totally at odds with the facts throughout and a very unbelievable person.
loved Talk T.V had it on most of the time I was home, now watching it on U Tube but hate all the breaks.
Her whole demeanour is very hard faced, she showed nothing but contempt for the press on her entrance and exit to the enquiry. She read an apology with absolutely no sincerity, I doubt she wrote it herself and it seemed like she had been instructed to apologise, and she loathed doing it. Throughout her evidence she was elusive, yet pedantic over her use of language and certain technicalities. Her contempt for the enquiry and for the British legal system is astounding.
No wonder it was wrong with those crooks in charge
They all got massive bonus payouts even when they knew the convictions were wrong but they got paid to keep their mouths shut or lose the bonus. All bonus payments from when Horizon was introduced should be clawed back by the Government and used to compensate the victims of their fraud.
There is a claw back clause in Vennells contract. SUNAK write to her and tell her to pay back all bonus or else court action
I write this from Cape Town. I have grown up & lived in Africa throughout my entire life. I am therefore, more than familiar with lies, cover-ups & corruption, often covered by manipulation & the desire for control over others...
Having only followed this story from a distance, I then saw the fantastic ITV Docu Series, very recently....
My hope, is that, with everything going on in the world, this story will not be washed over & swept away. Please don't allow this to happen.
Full justice MUST be served, including full & immediate compensation, in the LARGEST possible way...
It will stand upon the following legal decisions, to allow the UK to separate itself from the other material, despotic dictatorships the rest of the world thrives upon...
What do you expect she is a woman of a type which is now considered leadership material, they will NEVER take any responsibility for anything. This is part of the massive problem we have in the leadership in this country on the whole.
I couldn’t have said it better.
Slightly mysogenistic view, in my opinion. You can find plenty of men with the same credentials. They don't stand out because business and politics is still people largely by men. Both sexes can be equally awful and the people at the the top of the post office are proving this. Adam Crozier to name but one.
@@helenjob What about the people she allowed to go to prison die and live in shame for all those years. But no let's not hurt her feelings. !
@@helenjobNope. A realistic view. And it seems Angela is misogynistic as women suffered because of her. But thanks for your slightly misandrist view.
Colin, while you consider leadership at top levels in this country, I do hope you are talking and taking into account both sex’s. We have seen leadership on all levels and men are equally responsible for never taking responsibility for their failings. Look no further than the Conservative government. Let’s JUST start with Johnson and take it from there.
Wow lied all they way through she's a coward and the others involved ( being proven they was involved ) should be held accountable and prosecuted for knowing and doing NOTHING, disgusting change laws if needs be so EVERYBODY involved can be charged again disgusting and disgraceful !
To anyone listening to this woman the contempt in her answers is shocking. Her disregard to the absolute obviousness of her knowingly lying about her causing catastrophic damage of immense proportion to all of those postmasters HAS TO HAVE. A LENGTHY PRISON SENTENCE
She has perverted the course of justice and needs to be prosecuted, she needs to be sent to prison. She needs to serve minimum of 2 years.
She’s a disgrace - no sympathy for all those ruined lives. No ownership- owned. A blatant liar.
Outstanding work Nick ..... you have set the bar really high ....
How can this hateful woman be allowed to get away with blatant lies under oath! Not one ounce of compassion!
For the lives this women destroyed she should rot in jail
Every one responsible for this horrendous situation has a problem with Memory loss! Selective Memory loss, that is!
I am amazed and hope this goes further. She may not concede she knew but she did receive the information. If it's that easy to sidestep accountability after receiving information highlighting a clear issue then God help us all! Surely it is up to her to digest the detail because she is paid to do that and make recommendation/proceed as necessary. If the former is the case then it is not necessary to have an expert filling these roles is it! As for the CEO - "a woman of the cloth" - there's a nice warm place waiting for her.
What I've watched so far? I found absolutely shocking i couldn't stop watching it goes on hrs.
We were all totally incompetant that maybe true but she has been proven a liar.upset with the speed of compensation.
Gaslighting even after proven she was deeply involved in the conspiracy.
35 Years - She knew everyone. She managed upwards. She knew and engaged with everyone of importance. She had a personal text after leaving from Paula Vennels. Knowledge was power and her personal brand and she got promoted as she got things done come what May.
Go to jail, do not pass GO, do not collect £200 or in her case, her huge bonus ..
A woman, not taken accountability for something. Shocked. Diversity at it's best.
It’s the big blame game who’s going to eat the other one first money makes them evil 😢😢😢😢
A judge finds her guilty of lying yet is not jailed
I don't think gender comes into it. A liar's a liar and the post office is full of them at this high level. I remember being appalled by Adam crozier when he was in charge.
They sound like the Nazis at Nuremberg in 1946 where they think they were entirely justified in inflicting pain and suffering on the innocent and claimed to be minor functionaries who were “only obeying orders”!
Good comparison
I agree!
She decided to leave. She wasn’t made redundant. But, we are told, she was made redundant. Did Post Office make redundancy payment to her? How much was that?
Great layout of this evasive Senior managers and Board by Nick Wallis
Typical senior leader, throwing everyone else under the bus to mitigate her own responsibility.
She and others involved should end up in prison. But, they won’t because the ‘class machine’ will prevent that happening!!!
She and her colleagues at the top put innocent people in prison. They now need to see what it feels like. Make them accountable in front of the courts, not an enquiry.
She’s already got another job at coutts bank
She was at the Welsh FA.
@dianeirvine7624 I hope that's a joke!
Figures.
She will fit in nicely at coutts bank 😮😮😮😮😮😮
is she going for Nigel. don`t.. he will tie you in nots. Karen.
She was exceptionally competent in her role. She had full knowledge of everything she did, and deliberately contributed to stripping the flesh off innocent Subpostmasters. She followed the Party line with zero consideration for the human devastation caused by her action, long after becoming aware that there were flaws with the Horizon/Fujitsu computer code. She is now pretending to be incompetent in an attempt to avoid a prison sentence. Long may she be incarcerated...
She and others have no conscience at all; they simply want to cover it all up by lying again and again. They must get a Prison sentence.
How sad that these post office personnel on trial now , who have devastated and caused several to take their own lives ,utterly destroying the lives and families of others , giving as if it helps their hollow apologies in my view it’s disgraceful.
They are not truthful about their involvement in this travesty . I still don’t know how they was aloud to prosecuted these hard working honest workers.
This should have been investigated by the police . 👮🏻
I would like to know what these senior positioned people were exactly doing day to day in their jobs, when they now say they don't have any idea about the facts in question? How do they expect us to believe these blatant lies about their own culpability in this disgusting crime. She's as guilty as all the other bosses of gross mismanagement, especially Vennells.
You can see by the careful use of words that she was up to her neck in the cover up her memory was selective as to her recall no wonder the Judge picked holes in her statement definitely one for the police enquiry
She's clearly a sociopath, why would/could she ever take responsibility?
Seems she has been carefully coached by lawyers on how to reply, something it seems they have been doing for years. Puzzled why the same company is supposed to be running the compensation scheme, no wonder they continue to lie and delay everything.
She is not remotely bothered about the sub postmasters. Her agenda , like Vennels is protect herself. Her deception and deceit is so transparent
SHE TOOK THE MONEY FOR THE JOB NOW SHE SHOULD TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES PRISON PRISON PRISON and her PENSION taken away
Lying all the way through.
She needs jailed.
For this woman to show a regret means she has to find her soul first, and she sold that to the Post Office.
Yes, her soul is just missing.
Or the devil got it.
This incompetent fool needs to be punished.
When will legal action be taken ? Now everyone who knows her personality knows the real type of person she is 👍
AVDB is a very accomplished liar.
What a horrible woman. I so hope she ends up in jail.
I have to say, I don't believe very much coming from any of them but, this thing has the top step of the podium. She appears to be a vile individual. Hopefully there's a warm cell somewhere with the names of a few of them on the doors, hopefully this one will face a judge and jury above them all.
a beautiful human being.
her parents must be very proud... make her an MBE now...
because that's what crooks get in this country.
So if she is not telling the truth, with this know why ask her , talking to her is a waste of time.
None of them are willing to take any responsibility! Well that is OK, not a problem! Instead we have a prison term of 120 years that we will share out to all those involved, guilty or not! Then you can feel the same as the innocent did, watching you life ebe away!
Hear is an example why uk is stuck in a rut. A person who has made negative contribution paid a high salary and bonus and could not even say what her role was. How many others are at this game. I would say thousands in HR are at it
Main problem in the west imo
Echoes of Nuremburg? I saw nothing, I heard nothing, I did nothing - I was only following orders.
I think the nation needs to know that behaviour like this cannot go unpunished... the decisions she took had fatal consequences.
No accountability , no shame and a big fat liar and incompetent..
Don’t normally watch talktv but the coverage of this inquiry has actually been really good.
A couple of key traits coming through in her testimony - "Magical thinking", misrembering events, lack of empathy and denying any responsibility. If I didn't know any better I'd say she was displaying all the hallmarks of NPD...
Jail time has to be coming her way surely.
She had a top job or jobs for many years.she has lied and lied.all throuh for years she had a job at the top with all information within her reach.
Everything Angie baby enters the court the song by Shaggy 'It wasn't me' should be played, it is perfect for so many of these recent witnesses and those coming over the weeks ahead.
I cant comprehend how so many of these people can't remember!, even when the evidence is put before them!. They're apologies are empty half hearted dribble to try to save their own skin!.
A very slippery woman. It wasn't just emails pointing out Horizon "defects" (they're _bugs,_ and no amount of POL spin changes that) but journalists asking questions, articles in Computer Weekly and Private Eye and so on - but all throughout her testimony, she didn't "recall" (a journalist on the second day asked her at the court entrance if she was going to be able to recall more that day!), and she didn't see emails sent to her, it was someone else who dealt with X, Y and Z. Jason Beer became so exasperated he actually asked her at one point, "So what _was_ your job?" To which she just gave another slippery answer.
I'm puzzled she said she took redundancy then said she left on her own accord
Did they structure her leaving as redundancy as a way of giving her massive leaving package! They all knew the wheels were coming off the waggon especially her.
Payout for the postmasters now !
Where did they think so many Postmasters were hiding all this money? Surely personal bank accounts were checked? No new cars, boats, houses, lavish lifestyles seem to have emerged on a grand scale!?
I would think all here friends and family are proud of her story telling
Disgraceful, her behaviour is awful. Who would give her a job, basically not being truthful
She should be in prison….the suffering and suicides are on her hands…..awful woman.
Why were these people so desperate to prosecute the innocent knowing full well the evidence was severely compromised. What hateful, vile creatures they are. No morality whatsoever
This woman had done exactly what all the others have done! She has lied, evaded questions and conveniently forgot about information that would exonerate the sub postmasters. At some point these slimy lowlife need to be held accountable and stand trial but this will take years to achieve at huge expense to the tax payer.
Another Public Sector Power Suited Psychopath.
They are Legion.
Arrest, charge, convict, imprison.
She is not lying, simply economical with the truth. Clucking bell, she is part of what is wrong in the UK
Accountability is a woman's kryptonite...
Not the first reprobate to mollify their conscience with formulaic church routine while they commit terrible acts.
No one should employ her again I can’t believe she got her big bonus
Everyone is so greedy in high offices 😡
She needs to go to jail what a lire
They never take responsibility for their actions. Always somebody else's problem or deflect by raising another non relevant issue.
She is a disgrace. WHEN WILL WE SEE JUSTICE?
Is she going to return her bonus payments from that time ?
But real GOOD AT TAKING THE BLOOD MONEY!!!!!