Walmart Supertech Oil Filter ST9688 vs. Fram Oil Filter Cor9688acc Oil Filter Cut Open
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2022
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Today we'll compare Walmart's Supertech oil filter to the Fram Core oil filter that Walmart installs on your vehicle when you get an oil change in their garage.
Supertech ST8688: www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech...
Fram Core 9688 ebay:www.ebay.com/itm/144063517574...
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I recently used the ST9688 on my 2022 Kia with a 1.6L Turbo. I have somewhat of a strange question in that this is the first oil change from factory fill and when cleaning up my catch pan I found a black plastic washer that has the same size, shape and outside diameter nub features as a rubber garden hose seal. I wish that I could attach photos to provide a better description. In looking at the contact markings it appears that it may have been installed between the base of the original filter and the engine over the oil return pipe.
Has anyone ever seen anything like this? I have done many searches including Kia forums and have not found any information. Thanks for any assistance.
Hi Ira,
I don't know the answer, but I'll pin your question so that it sits on top.
sounds the o-ring on the drain plug
A o-ring rubber similar to the garden hose is part of the drain plug, make sure the drain plug have one otherwise it may leak
The super tech is a good filter and comparison is across the board equally to others .
You just aren’t paying for fancy advertising and name recognition.
Besides the silicone on the fram, the supertech looks better in every way. Great video! 👍
Thanks, Mike!
I could do without the plastic cage on the super tech. Either would be fine. But for a Hyundai/Kia I’d go with the Fram. Silicone ADBV and I’d assume better flow
FRAM regular filters and tough guarda are quite sloppy design and poor quality with that internal cardboard. I would use supertech with convencional oil only not syntetic
I like the Supertech’s high-flow core.
Supertech looking good in this one!
I've used plenty of the ST9688's between 4 Hondas over the years for summer oil changes and they all held up just fine without any leaks or issues. Can't beat the price for retail purchase.
Great video as usual! The Fram looked pretty good until you cracked it open, not a fan of cardboard/felt endcaps. Supertech for the win and especially at a price of $3.42. Damn that's cheap!
100% agree
Thanks!👍
Supertech filter looking good in this video
I have a couple of used oil filters, drained, that I'd like to send to you. If they don't get used in a video, that's okay. I'm glad to see you keep posting new content so we can all continue to learn a few new things or remember a good old piece of information. My filters are used Toyota, Royal Purple, K&N Gold, Mobile 1, Purolator Boss, and the model it replaced, the Purolator Synthetic which has been fazed out. Just let me know the PO box or address. Keep on trucking!
Hi Joseph, send me an email and I'll give you my address. (Poker4me007@gmail.com)
Thanks for great video.. I recently picked up 2 super Tech filters for my wife's Buick Enclve for $1.97 on clearance. I was kind of worried about the filter. This video clears that up. My wife got on to me How come my mustang gets a $10 oil filter and her suv gets a $2. Now i can show her this video 😉
LOL 😊 Thanks!👍
I’ve used SuperTech filters on my car for years and they are a great filter for the price if you do regular oil changes.
Another great video 👍
Thanks, Ken!
Thank you for all that you do.
When I first saw this I expected the filters/media to be same with both having the same numbers.
Fram entry level filters are great for 3k, but if you follow recommended change intervals for modern Toyota, that is a lot of miles on the lower end filters.
Thanks, Jason!
I think super tech won this.
Both of them - piece of junk.
❤ I was just thinking about cutting open a super tech one. Thanks for doing this. If you want the silicon valve get the MP9688
Hi Cameron,
You're Welcome!👍
The ST filters are solid filters, much better than the fram XTRA Guard or the tough guard. Better construction, more filter media, clean and consistent.
they do not all look like this inside. I just cut one open and it looks like the fram. To say I was disapointed is an understatement.
The Supertech seems like a really good filter. Thanks for another great review. Merri :) Take care friend.
Thank You, Merri!
Have a Great Weekend!
im usually surprised when st loses a round.thank you again with this intuitive veiwing.🌚👍!
Another great comparison video.
It is interesting that Walmart oil changes would use the FRAM Core over their house brand filter. I would have to guess that the FRAM costs less for Walmart than their own filter. You would think with the supposedly voluminous information on the FRAM website! that they would mention that filter model. Maybe it is a filter meant for commercial applications and is not sold directly to the public or is specifically created for oil change places at a low price point.
Though they somehow show up for sale on ebay, the Fram Core filter is not intended for retail sale. That is why no information on them on the Fram site.
Thanks, Jeff!
Its a walmart only line hence the acc/tle on the cor line
I think Champ (Supertech) used to be the house brand filter for Kmart when Purolator reigned as the most popular name brand on their shelves. When Walmart became the new Kmart they axed Purolator and made Fram the name brand leader. It looks like Champ is once again the main source for the house brand. Never been a Fram fan, gimmicky paint jobs and usually less content on the inside where it counts at least on the basic filter. For a go to house brand one could do worse than Supertech, just don’t like the 30 micron rating vs say Purolator red can (Tractor Supply, etc.) that still rates 97% efficient at 20 microns, albeit at nearly twice the price. A good filter is always cheaper than a new engine!
Walmart USED to sell the Purolator 'Classic White' until recently. I used to get them there for around $4 then switched to the Motorcraft FL1A. I've never been a huge fan of Fram either. They have sooo many different filter ranges with weird miniscule manufacturing spec changes. Why? Seems like it would be cheaper to consolidate all the best features. There's not one Fram filter with ALL of the good features that can compete will other similar filters in the same price. The only 2 Fram filters I would consider are the Ultra and the Titanium, but the Boss is a much better filter, a little less expensive than the Titanium. I'm not even sure the Ultra (and Titanium) use a 100% synthetic media. The data sheet says 'Blend' but that could be a wordplay. You can SEE the Boss is 100% synthetic.
Normally I wouldn't go with the fram but I think this time it has an edge. Another great video! 👍🇨🇦
Thanks 404!
An old sock in a beer can is better than any fram filter.
what edge teh ST filter is far better quality for less money
WHAT!?
excellent video! I doubted supertech for being so affordable. They both seem very well made. I am buying supertech from now on.
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As a service tech I hated using those Fram COR filters. We would crush filters at the end of the day and you could put 4 Fram filters in the device and get them all to easily crush, where as something like a Wix we could barely get 2 and it wouldn't crush it all the way. I've also had a few cases of their filters come in damaged or the wrong thread pitch, absolute junk filters and the customer will easily run way over their 5k max filter protection claim.
Hi KFC,
Thanks for sharing!
The Cheap Fram had better quality control than the High End ones you recently tested. No metal shavings or sloppy glue. I was impressed with Suoer Tech. Quality control looked better than the recent K&N ones you tested With escalating oil filter prices and inflation eating away at my paycheck I'll go with a Super Tech
We used to call those Frams clean out filters ..Used them when you used a Engine Gunk cleaner...Run it 5 to 8 minutes, drain and throw that Frame away... Super Tech blows it away. 10,000 mile rating too, Not sure if you should take it that far though.. Great Video!!!
Thanks!👍
Interesting comparison Whip. It's true the Fram Core filter is what is used in the Walmart TLE/ACC for oil changes. They are not intended for retail sale but have managed to show up for sale on ebay. On the Champ Labs made 9688 like ST, I like how they extend the gasket to the outer edge. The Fram 9688 uses the more common narrow sealing gasket. In areas using salt and sand, I've seen the groove between gasket and edge become a rust area. I would pay $2.50 more to get the ST9688 in the MP series filter with silicone adbv. Thanks for vid.
Thanks, faxmen09!
I would take the MP over these two too.
I have been using the super tech on my vehicles for some time. I change oil every 3000 miles so I believe my engines are clean inside and well protected. My Dodge 3.8 has 175000 miles.
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I bought my pals a round of drinks that we never finished for $26. I think I can spend $20 on an awesome filter regardless of brand and keep my $30 grand car running well instead of saving ten bucks for a cheap filter and losing thousands in the long run. It's all relative how you look at things in life.
Whip, I once called Fram about these "Cor" filters. For what it's worth I was told they are simply extra guard filters with a different exterior. If that's the case it's an excellent shop filter.
Hi John.
That would make them 95% at particles above 20 microns.
Thanks for sharing!
@@WhipCityWrencher Yes, and the fact you get a silicone ADV with a shop filter is a rarity.
Great video whip.
Personally i prefer the super tech.I am not convinced about the Fram end caps and i dont care what anyone says.You guys in the USA are so lucky.
You cannot buy a filter in Australia for as little as $3.00.I would be happy to run the super tech for a daily driver grocery getter.
Hi Luke!
Yep, the Walmart Supertech oil filter is about the cheapest, decent oil filter you can get in the USA.
Thanks for your feedback from Australia! Greatly Appreciated!👍
Pete,
Another awesome video. The Walmart filter looks well made. The Fram is a "get what you pay for" filter. Hopefully people do not run them more than 3-4K if they use them.
Thanks K Beg!
This is why they are only 3k stickers on all oil changes at walmart
I wouldn't purchase either one of these filters, but the Supertech is pretty good for the money. The filter that impressed me the most that Whip has reviewed is the premium Microgard filter he reviewed several weeks ago.
Yep that's a well made filter to bad its not made here in the U.S.
Supertech is just a good filter for the cost. I love the e-core design awesome flow. Weird thing is my st9688 filters I have have a tapered sealing gasket this one is flat.
Thanks Pete! Neither of the filters would be in my vehicles but they are economy entry-level filters. Of The two the ST seems better. One would think that Walmart would use ST filters in their service center. 🤔
Hi Jonathan,
Yep, one would think so.
@@WhipCityWrencher Walmart may have an agreement with fram as they supply air filters/cabin air filters, amongst other things as well?
The supertech looks well made with no glue slop. Looks like a solid 5000 Mile filter. The fram looks well made for what it is but I wouldn’t use it 10 feet past 3000 miles. I think I’d just change my own with a pure one
Super Tech ST series filters, have fiber end caps, and rubber ADV. You have to buy the MP series to get metal end caps and a silicon ADV.
Grejob Pete. Thank you
Thanks, Dwayne!
Supertech oil filter hands down 👍
This time I'm going with the SuperTech filter. The filter media looks better metal end caps more filter media pleats etc
That Fram filter looked cheapo.
No contest. SuperTech wins IMHO.
Nice review and comparison 👍
Thanks drum!
This is one of those rare times when the cheaper product appears to be at least equal to, if not superior to, the more expensive one.
Remember if you do go supertech on a oil change the give you a $2.22 credit for not using the fram so the super techs only like a buck or 2 more
Thanks, XA!
I'll pin your comment so it sits on top.
Thanks for the filter comparison recommendation.👍
LoL. how does that work? Youre being serious or are you joking?
@@asianstud7 no this is actually legit he's spot on
@@Captain1674 So how do you get the $2 credit?
@@asianstud7 It's $2.90 at this point. If you get your oil changed at Walmart they charge you the base amount for the 5 quart oil change and then $2 and change for the filter which is usually a Fram Core but I have seen them swap out with Fram Extra Guards sometimes. If you pick your own filter out they will refund the $2 and charge you the cost of the oil filter you chose in the auto care isle. Or for $30 bucks you can ask for a self provided oil change and just buy the oil and filter you want.
As a young man, I thought that Fram had a decent product. Until one day, I saw one opened up and never bought a Fram product again.
If you want to use a Fram oil filter get the more expensive ones like a Fram Endurance, the same filter as an Amsoil oil filter.
@WhipCityWrencher I appreciate your suggestion, but I'm a retired machinist from the BNSF Railroad, and we used almost exclusively WIX filters on the multi-million dollar locomotives. If they trusted them for those locomotives, I feel safe using them in my vehicles. I have watched too many tests of Fram filers that have left me disillusioned with their products. Thanks for the reply, buddy!😀👍
@@dolrr54 👍
I’ll take the Fram any day with that silicone anti-drain back valve, and better bond with the multi fiber ends. 95% at 20 micron efficiency.
Definitely a win for the Super Tech. I bet flow rate on that Fram is terrible.
I love watching these oil filter comparison videos as a DIY oil changer for 45 years. Do the 65 pleats vs 45 pleats really make a difference in filtration? I buy whatever is on sale as I change my oil every 5K miles, so it probably doesn't make a difference what I use.
Thanks, Glad you like the videos. It probably doesn't matter, but in this video the Supertech looks better and the cost is inexpensive, right now they are selling for $3.84 at Walmart.
I have been watching wind city for a while now. I have a 98 4.6L with over 200,000 miles, she purrrrs. I have only used Mobil 1 and the mobil 1 oil filter when she was new. Then switched over to the Castrol Gold Edge 5/20 winter 5/30 full synthetic summer, With the K&N oil filter. After watching wind city do a review on a K&N AND A SUPER TECH. THIS IS the first oil change with the super tech oil filter. The K&N was 12 bucks and the super tech $3.72. So far I don't feel any difference. We'll see when I drop her. The oil says good for 20,000 miles I am an old guy so I drop it at 6000. I have to say even at 6000 the oil look pretty dang good. I use the Castrol high mileage I have to say I have never had a problem. I do use the heavier in the summer because in Arizona IT GETS HOT. Well thanks wind city. Love the show. P.S. just bought the same GOOOLO JUMP STARTER U TESTED very nice unit as well.
Thanks, TIME BANDIT!
Glad you liked the video and I think them jump starters are awesome!👍
Both SuperTech and K&N oil filters are manufactured by Champion Labs. They use the same filtering media in most. The ST is every bit as good as the K&N but much cheaper.
That specific Fram oil filter is sold only to Walmart oil change customers. You can't buy it off the shelf, that's why you can't find any specs for it on the web. Somebody probably stole it from Walmart, and put it up for sale on Ebay. The Fram filter might be slightly more eco-friendly than the Supertech, because it doesn't have that plastic cage inside - making it a little easier to recycle. The Fram filter will work fine, but keep in mind Walmart only guarantees their oil changes for 3,000 miles.
Doug from vice grip garage always says Frame is no good, now I can see why.
I choose Supertech, I think the media look a bit better and the overall quality is better.
Plus and minuses when it comes to both filters. Fram has a metal center steel tube, whereas, Supertech has steel end caps, and more filter media. Supertech doesn't have a center steel tube. It's too bad that Fram doesn't have steel end caps, and a little bit more filter media. Another great review! 👍
Thanks Ella!
Have a Great Weekend!
@@WhipCityWrencher 🙂👍
Ive never seen any funtoinal diffrence with the endcaps or centers
@@XA-JJKILLERs, Thanks for your input!
I would like a shoot-out of can openers for these filters.
Super Tech seems to be the same as Valavoline oil change VO148. Bad luck with that filter
I prefer the superhero. Good show.
Thank You!
my recent supertech looked like the fram. They seem to change their makers.
Oil filters constantly changing, who knows? What size oil filter?
The super tech is good filter and comparable across the board.
You just aren’t paying for fancy advertising and name recognition.
They are good enough for my babied 72 Nova which I take great care of.
72 Nova, Cool
I hope it has the 350 in it👍
@@WhipCityWrencher Tonawanda the number one team 350 small block.
Rochester two barrel carburetor, turbo 350 hydramatic transmission.
Van Nuys California assembly plant.
Sea mist green with frost white top. Moss green interior. The car operates and appears as new with plenty of torque and zip with seamless shifting and steering.
Power heavy duty drum brakes and Harrison air conditioner.
She’s like a 50 year old Time Machine.
@@billbright1755 Awh, Nice Ride!👍
AC Delco makes Filters for Walmart.
I'd like to see a comparison of KnN, Supertech, NAPA Gold for Dodge 4.7 V8 oil filters. I normally use KnN with Castrol 5/30 gold full synthetic. 197000 on 03 Dakota.
Thanks
I put it on my to do list.
@@WhipCityWrencher 👍🤠👍
I'd bring my own.
I'm with you, Gary! along with my own oil. 😊
I've gotten too old to do my own oil changes like I used to, so I have been having them done at Walmart for the last few years. Fram is the standard Walmart uses but I always request the Supertech oil filter (which they may charge a little more for) as I consider it far superior to Fram. I consider the oil filter brand more critical than the oil brand used because all motor oil sold it the U.S. has to meet certain API standards and requirements. The same is not true for filters. IMO, Fram is the worst name brand oil filter.
If I were to use a Fram oil filter, the Fram Endurance would be my choice.
Thanks!
I usually change my Synthetic oil from 3k- 4,500k don't pass 5k so I would save money and go with Super tech..
What f**cking “saving” you talking about, if even “breakfast meal” in McDonalds rise up to $6.89!!! 🤦🏼♂️
@@Andrew__Smith They are $3.42 at Wally World. It's still not bad for today's economy. It's the same St9688 filter my car uses.
@@albertvela8712 The need to purchase an oil filter in the household is once every six months. Since everything has already doubled in price, I see absolutely no problem or savings to buy a good, strong and reliable filter for my "iron horse" and pay, for example, EVEN $ 20.
By the way, as a fan of Baldwin brand filters, I would like to recommend you *Baldwin* B7243 - $5.24 or B7216 - $8.88 or B1444 -$7.00 + $5 for shipping + taxes on Zoro (online retailer from ILLINOIS)
PS good luck for economy
@@Andrew__Smith That's for my 2017 Sonata that need frequent oil changes but for my "Chiska" iron Horse 2000 Deuce I only use Amsoil V twin kit once a year. Either way if my GDI vehicle wouldn't run so dirty I would use longer intervals. But since I don't I like to change mine 3-4,500. And sometimes I change the filter once in between oil changes. So it just makes sense for me.
I buy the wal-mart oil and filter's all the time and i run it in every thing i own. I am a retired ford tech and i own 2 ford tauruses a chrysler town and country old dodge van and a gmc pick up. I have for 20 or more years have been usuing the supertech oils and filters in all of them with no problems and one taurus is at 580,000 miles, chrysler t/c at 150,000, gmc 120,000, the old dodge van has rolled the 5 digit odometer 4 times so it's over 400,000 miles. I would not put a fram filter on my lawn mower. Even though i own a gm truck i am not a fan of gm at all it was my dads truck as i am partial to ford and mopar and have ran many fords and mopars over 500,000 gm never made it for me but folks like that cheap substandard garbage, i inherited one.
I’ve been using ac Delco filters on my 96 Tahoe for some time. But I have found some on Amazon for super cheap. Once they came in I notice that they have Chinese letters on them. Can I send you one along with one from Walmart? I would like your opinion of the two “identical” filters.
Sure send me an email, My email is, Poker4me007@gmail.com
That may be a counterfeit A/C Delco filter. Unfortunately one has to be careful when buying auto parts on eBay and Amazon.
Then again some Delco parts bought directly from any GM dealership will say made in China on them, so…
Is super tech good if I'm planning on replacing it every 5000 miles?
It should be. Send me the used filter when your done and we'll all see how it held up.
Curious....Why didn't you buy the Fram at Walmart?
Hi Pete,
You won't see this filter on their shelves.
They don't sell this Fram Cor brand filter to the public.
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks....Just curious.
Which one would you use if you change the oil and filter at 3k.🙂🙂
Probably the Supertech.
Personally I like the Fram for a silicone anti drain valve and clean media, the paper ends are nothing to worry about it bonds better to the media anyways.
how can Fram live with themselves? They could spend 25 cents at the factory for a superior product. Does only Fram use carboard end caps?
I've opened a Subaru oil filter with the same type of endcaps. I think they are made by the same company though. "First Brands"
@@WhipCityWrencher yes, those Subaru OE filters were in fact made by Fram. However, Subaru’s new OE supplier as of recently is Champion Labs, maker of numerous brands including A/C Delco and…SuperTech. Yes, Subaru’s new OE filters are basically a ST or Delco filter, and that’s not a bad thing. They make quality filters.
@@chipyeahoo Thanks for that information, Chip!👍
I wouldn't use a fram on my lawn mower.. wouldn't have a problem using the super tech.. yes I am a retired mechanic
why the fram has a silicon anti drainback is beyond me unless thats how fram justifies the $2.50 higher cost ! Or cause its orange to match the can ! Lol
Still prefer fram. You get a good six months from it.
fram FORD filters are just like there vehicles..... garbage 🗑
LOL.
The slaughter of cutting edge automotive filters continue.
Definitely take the SuperTech over that Trash Can FRAM 🗑, the orange can of death
$ price $ of filter does not matter 2 me, unless u need xtra $$$ 4 a couple of beers... u get wut u pay 4... u never want 2 buy liquor f/bottom shelf, u want more like top shelf... same w/a filter or oil... going 2 see if i can get a couple of filters 4 u soon... will check w/u 1st... do like looking @ them under a microscope... also, i use & sell AMSOIL...
Thanks Bruce!
Another great review, Whip -- thank you !!
I would not buy EITHER ONE of these oil filters, but for different reasons:
Supertech gasket is too big -- wastes rubber.
Supertech ADBV (Nitrile) -- not suitable for claimed 10,000-miles OCI.
Fram COR - Lacks Fram's famous "Sure-Grip" coating.
Fram COR - Too-Small filtering area, poor pleat spacing.
Both filters have too high of a Micron Rating -- 25 Microns is my preferred upper limit.
If I HAD TO buy ONE of these, it would be the Supertech - More threads, more pleats, more and bigger holes in the base plate, MUCH better Microscopic view, Polymer core.
Your exclusive "Microscope View" shows the much more uniform media of the SuperTech. 🔬
Keep 'em coming !!
Thanks, Chuck!👍
Glad you liked the video!😊
Absolutely RIGHT " _would not buy EITHER ONE of these oil filters_ " 👍
Plus the Fram website-approved stamped leaf retainer spring - can't forget that important 2 cent piece of metal.
Just more confirmation not to use Fram filters on anything you care about!
They won't stop making the cardboard/fiber endcaps as long as people buy them.
Fram filters are built cheap. After finding rust on two Fram filters, And watching informative videos like this one, I stopped using their oil filters years ago. Fram should put less money into their BS advertising, and improve their product instead.
both are junk if you love your engine only use a top of the line filter.. MOBIL 1
Nothing against M1 filters but there are still some fine quality filters for half the price of a M1. As an old technician I’ve watched customers over the years spend mega bucks on super expensive synthetic oils and filters only to dump it at ridiculously short intervals. I’ve also had other customers who use a good mid-range filter like Hengst, Denso, Full, Toyo Roki and run a decent conventional or semi-synthetic oil at the same intervals as my customers who are dumping super expensive synthetic oils and the last customers mentioned are coming out way ahead financially. When we pull their engines down for regular maintenance like seals and gaskets their all clean and sludge free inside. The second group of customers just spent a whole lot less getting there.
My postman was a loyal customer of mine until he retired. He was a rural route carrier and if there’s any service more extreme on engines and fluids that a mail route carrier I don’t know what it is. His 97 Tacoma 2.4 never saw anything but conventional oil @ 5K mile intervals. He ran a Denso aftermarket filter or an occasional O.E. Yoda Denso when they were on sale. When he retired the truck had just under 500K miles on it. He sold it to another route carrier and it’s still delivering the mail six days a week. I never even had to put a timing chain in the thing.
I’m not opposed to synthetics and I run them in most of my equipment but there’s a lot of consumers spending huge amounts of money for “the best “ synthetics and filters and are getting a net zero return on investment for the expense.
Supertech filters I used to say I wouldn't put them on a lawn mower. Never thought in a million years they would be better than a fram and I'm not a fan of fram
FRAM is nowhere near the quality of the Walmart brand SuperTech anymore. I now years ago FRAM was an actual quality filter but now they are just JUNK! Don't use FRAM it's not worth it!