Look, guys, I absolutely love appearances from Deadpool, Batman, Joker and so on but there's something so special when you guys go down the actual historical figure path. Every time it's so good. I'm not saying the fictional character ones are bad, I can quote the majority of them from heart and love them dearly. These ones just hit so much harder. It's so good.
Real people's lives are so much more complex and messy than fictional people's, and that means there's just way more material to work with. The bragging, the banter, the insults, and the callouts all hit so much harder because they're all REAL.
"Reproduction" would have been funnier, but that was plenty good. "Frankly it's clear Auschwitz side you were on". They telegraphed the winner here with the musical swell at the end.
@@Hectonkhyresum ackshually marx is the father of sciantific socialism as utopian communist ideologies were already developed by people like Fourier 🤓☝️
@@tt3925 George Orwell vs. George W. Bush: Anti-war, Anti-surveillance left-wing Spanish Republican vs a Pro-war, Pro-surveillance right-wing American Republican
Those who loved Ford, OTOH, claimed it means "first on race day". Unfortunately our house doesn't feel that way: a car with only 54K miles on it needed 7200 for a new engine block. So we traded it for a Nissan.
@@Shreysoldier It's also a pun. "Ford" sounds very similar to the German word "fort", which in this context means "away". So, more literally, the saying translates to "You're driving away/Ford, (but) you're walking home."
Yeah, the lyricism is amazing, but can we acknowledge that beat? The old-school drum and piano, the industrial noises integrated flawlessly, that groovy bassline in Henry's last verse and the epic choir in Karl's. Gotta be one of my favourite instrumentals so far.
Some of the lines here are connected to history. Henry Ford did issue a $5 a day minimum wage for his worker, and a eight-hour a day work schedule. That came at a price. Worker houses are subject to random inspections. If a person drove any other brand of vehicle, had alcohol, or was unkempt to Company standards, their wages are reduced. "You get that from books, but you didn't read shit" is a jab at Ford's lack of historical knowledge. On the stand for a libel suit in 1919, Ford said that the war for US independence was in 1812, and that traitor Benedict Arnold was an author, not a soldier. Among other false claims. "Maybe that's why you spied on your workers like Big Brother." Ford did hire a gang of goons to keep his employees in line. If anyone was heard speaking of unionizing, the goons would pummel the person. They also went after people who went on break for too long. They were also known to look into people's windows. One man named Bennett would bring lions to work! Yes, lions. All in an effort to spy and intimidate workers. "City in Brazil, nuts!" is a reference to Ford's attempt in producing cheap rubber by establishing a colony in Brazil, call Fordlândia. It was a disaster, lasting about six years. Like he did to his employees in the United States, Ford imposed strict rules on every aspect of worker life, including what foods are served in the company cafeteria, that went against the Portugese-speaking workers normal diets. This led to rebellion called Quebra-Panelas, or Breaking Pans. The revolt was suppresed by the Brazilian Army, but the point was made clear, Fordlandia was doomed before it began, and none of the rubber they hoped to harvest there ever made it to the United States. "I gave men work" as Ford was considered a visionary and launched a new age of travel and business. His minimum wage and eight-hour work ethic, plus allowing employees to buy shares of the company gave thousands of people a chance at a new life. "When they marched for better wages, you shot them dead in the streets." That did happen. Ford employees staged a hunger protest in March 1932, asking for worker's rights. Ford's goons, including the lion-training Bennett, opened fire on the protestors as they retreated. Bennett drove his car through the crowd firing a pistol out the window. The protestors countered with rocks, hitting Bennett and forcing him to abandon his car, while still firing his pistol. Ultimately Bennett killed a sixteen-year old boy. Ford's other goons fired into the crowd, killing a further four people. "I'm so down with the cause I even pawned my own pants!" That's true. Marx was said to be so poor that his wife once pawned Karl's pants just to get money for food. "Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did." Tragically that is true. Deeply opinionated and bully, Henry Ford was known to berate Edsal in public, break into his son's house and smash his alcohol, and more. One day Edsel showed off a prototype car to his father that he was proud of. Instead of being grateful, Henry smashed the car in front of his son and then threw it into a thrasher. The end, Ford was not only revered by Germany, he received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest award for a foreigner in Germany at the time, for Ford's book 'The International Jew, the World's Foremost Problem.' Ford never officially recanted his Antisemitism. In fact, he had his own newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, that peddled his horrid views.
Also I would like to add some things too. "And now your Great Lakes state ain't exactly a great sight," Marx was referring to the region known as the Rust Belt. Which includes Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. All which were hit hard by outsourcing of industrial production overseas for cheap labour or moved into the Southern US. (Also for cheap labour) The results of which were a decline of heavy industry and the industrial sector in that region. The term "Rust Belt" is a dysphemism to describe industry that has "rusted out", usually referring to the impact of deindustrialization, economic decline, population loss, and urban decay on these regions attributable to the shrinking industrial sector especially including steelmaking, automobile manufacturing, and coal mining. While Dearborn, Michigan is still performing well (still is Ford's main assembly plant for its pickups), Detroit did not have the same fate, with GM downsizing their manufacturing activities there due to the 2008 Great Recession and the shipping of work overseas. "Your buddy Egnels bankrolled you with his Textile Mills," Frederick Egnels was the German who basically paid for the publishing of Karl Marx's books; and also tried to finish Das Kapital after the latter's death. Egnels wasn't able to sell those mills either, as the family will and testament said that it couldn't be sold or transferred to anyone else but him. After Marx died; Egnels left some sum of money to the former's children.
@@jeffbac1889 I think that one had to do with the idea of "evolution", so there's somewhat of a connection. But there are definitely worse. _Way worse._
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
My man, Peter and Lloyd are arguably the most engaging content creators on the entire platform as far as I've seen. I've seen them replying to comments on videos months, even years, after the intial upload date. Actively participating in co-creation for their content and reading every single word their viewers write, these absolute legends are the best role models for other creators on this platform by far. If only their upload schedule (on ERB) would be just as perfect.. A man can only dream 🥲 P.S. obviously the rest of the ERB team besides Peter and Lloyd should be praised as well ❤
@@Bahr-im7pn The writing was honestly pretty awful, they boiled down Marx's responsibility for literally hundreds of millions into 2 lines, and just never wrote anything else for Ford to say. Something something agenda being written here but idk
@@callsignsparty6503 Marx shouldn't be held responsible for that. He didn't intend on getting millions killed. Totalitarians who twisted his ideals to suit their own agendas did.
@@callsignsparty6503 even the black book of Communism could only make up 100 million in over a century lmao. By the same metric people count the "victims" of Communism, Capitalism kills 100 million every 5 years.
In an internet landscape where people try to game the system to optimize clicks and decrease attention spans, it’s genuinely heartening to see ERB create raps true to their style with somehow a brand new touch in this vid as there are in any other. The creativity and style is off the charts fr
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
If you look closer. This is probably the most cutthroat two characters have been to date. Normally one rapper talks about themselves while the other counters, in this one they where both out for blood.
Yeah, they were going for the throat more than any other battle I can think of. In Roosevelt vs Churchill, they were both aggressive in their delivery but their burns themselves were more restrained than "your work was responsible for Mao and Stalin"(*) and "you were name-dropped in the most infamous book". (*) - I'm not passing judgment about whether or not that's factually accurate, but it's a good burn.
Gotta give credit to people like Scru Face Jean for that happening, honestly. Scru's ERB reactions got big enough that they brought him on as one of the rappers (Mansa Musa) and his entire thing was pushing ERB to get more aggressive with the attacks and less on the flexing. Wouldn't be surprised if that was an influence, at least.
*communist calls capitalist a Nazi* Liberals: "HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT IS THE MOST ORIGINAL TOTALLY FUNNY LINE IVE EVER HEARD MY PROGRAMMING TELLS ME TO LAUGH NOW HHAHAHAHA."
@@TheDarkCeratosaurus Marx and Engels started the tradition of leftist philosophers having legendary beards. The beard that Marx has in this ERB is a faithful recreation
EpicLLOYD Has played every single type of Ideology before, from communist Marx, socialist Stalin, and Nazi Hitler, to capitalist Jeff Bezos and Emperor Napoleon. He really is Mr. Worldwide.
Marx described himself as a socialist fyi and used the terms socialist and communist interchangeably. I'm kinda annoyed American schools work so hard to ignore proletariat revolution throughout history because they end up saying embarrassing shit as a result, like claiming the Nazis were socialists.
The fact that both of you have acted in 80+ of these battles and you still manage to find a unique way to portray every single character is nothing short of incredible. I think we long-term fans often take it for granted, but you two are remarkable actors, on top of you and your team being creative geniuses and masterful musicians. Amazing job as always, guys; glad to hear production is underway for more battles soon! ❤
I just realized "your legacy is in ashes" could be another roast for Fords affiliation with the Nazi party especially with the line that precedes it... I listen to this like 2 times a week and I am still finding more details.
It’s not like Karl Marx is completely innocent of that either. He himself expressed anti semtic views towards Jewish people despite how he himself had Jewish ancestry. Sure he was ethnically Jewish though he obviously didn’t practice the religion. His Jewish heritage doesn’t excuse his hateful views as bigotry is bigotry no matter who believes in or says it.
@@jfournerat1274..But to "shake hand" with a funny mustache guy is definitely not a good thing for Ford and adds up to the many ugly things of him as well, yeah he is literally worse than Thatcher and Mountbatten
@@jfournerat1274 if you’re talking about the book he wrote called on the Jewish question. The book was more anti-organized religion than it was anti-Semitic.
Ford, some of his engineers, and some of his executives were instrumental in the Soviet Union setting up its manufacturing systems in the early 30's. They basically started the Soviets automobile production that helped out immensely in WW2, ya know, after the Nazi's broke the treaty they had with the Soviets.
I was a history major and even I had trouble keeping up this ERB. It was the most layered ERB on two historical figures that I've heard. The beat was even layered in a complex manner compared to other ERB's. I still enjoyed this ERB because the lyrics were great and the production team did a great job with the visuals.
@@mysteryman703exactly the point, ignorance is bliss, especially when your force it on yourself, knowledge is power yes, but also the worst burden one could have.
Well he is a rich capitalist bastard joking about killing workers, that have the chance to insult a poor and a socialist, if course he have a blast. Half of his insult are LOL Stalin and Mao and you stink and is poor old man. While Marx have a insensitive bastard that say shit about him, mainly about his poverty and hygiene, and helped the nazi while leaving a legacy of working slavery. Of course he is pissed off.
@@TeasGuideToThePlanes What's there to be sad about? it's litterally back and better than ever along with being under a better banner. It's now called "Fully Rambonic" and under a new channel called second wind!
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It’s insane that I remember playing the shit out of Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates when I was 9, and here I am today at 19 still listening to ERB on repeat 😂
Ok, the additions to the beat on each of their last verses is really getting me. The bassline added to ford’s as the self sufficiency ideal of capitalism, the choir with the bassline added back in later in marx’s the one and many ideology of communism, just *french kiss*
Can't believe I went from internet dwelling teenager to fully blown adult man and this series literally hasn't stopped. Thanks for the continuous nostalgia bois! Also dayum that last Marx round was brutal.
Can I take a moment to offer tremendous kudos to Lloyd on this one - his ability to mold himself into each character improves during every battle, and I was legitimately unclear for the first minute whether Marx was him or not. Absolutely incredible work all around.
People talking about the lyrics but the set design and 3D work on this one is legitimately probably my favorite of any recent ERB. Really good work here especially the big brother and car shots!
Hey, remind me, how many people did Hitler kill, exactly? While you're googling that, can you also google the same thing but for Stalin and Mao? Thanks.
"You grew so out of touch you sabatoged your only kid! Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did." Might be one of the rawest and most brutal disses in this show.
My husband and i watched the very first ERB together in 2011 after we started dating. 12 years later we are married and they are still producing bangers. Y'all on the ERB family are amazing, incredibly talented people ❤️
Haha omg that would have been epic. No, my husband is a traditionalist so we did the traditional vows - I'll have to remember that though if we ever renew them!
Lol we are pretty blessed and rarely argue, but now I'll start hearing that in the back of my mind. I'll tell him we'll have to flyte it out like zues and thor!
Every time I finally start coming to grips with the idea that you guys probably won't keep creating these masterpieces anymore, you go and surprise us with another epic drop. My heart can't take it 😂❤ you guys are awesome
I am Brazilian, and I did not know that there was a city called Fordlândia (Ford-Land) in my country. Apparently, this city was established by Ford to raise his company production of rubber.
ruclips.net/video/8EQcBL5v9To/видео.htmlsi=YM1Q9UjEMoJhzUE4 Great news there's a very good and funny yt video I linked above that serves as a great mini doc about Fordlandia and how much an absolutely disaster it was
The incredible part is over the years, you can tell that ERB has gone deeper and deeper into the historical rabbit hole and actually has made a critical arguement for each person. We went from two fascists throwing words to one another to basically a firm handed reality share that maybe Ford stimulated the best and worst of American dominance over production. Not to say Marx got his share of heat, but wow that finale. Big love ERB, thanks for walking with me from high-school well into my happy adulthood.
Marx was not a fascist....he was the leader of the communist movement which was going on at that time and butted heads historically at that time with fascism. I agree though! This was great!
the critical arguments in question against henry ford: not self-made, bad working conditions, questionable relations with nazis against marx: stinky hobo
“Pumping” is a strong word here But I do agree that it remains high quality, and in fact I appreciate that they don’t turn into a content factory where the quality slowly dips. Less releases but maintaining the standards will always be better
Karl's delivery at the end was clean, especially his final line. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Almost forgot how much I missed these. My day is a bit brighter now.
As a history major, your videos and especially your lyrics are always a sight so behold. So much insightful and deep cutting references combined with amazingly written bars. So glad you guys are back, please never stop dropping these
@@bluexephosfan970 Alright, then find the word "sir" a gender-neutral replacement that still conveys the same amount of respect that "sir" does. Like seriously nitpicking on someone calling another person "sir" is really dumb.
I've been watching your videos since I was 16 after stumbling across Stephen Hawking vs Albert Einstein while researching for a science project. I'm nearly 30 and I want to thank you guys for bringing a mixture of fun and education to almost half of my life!
These get better very year in every way: production, setting, costumes, impressions, performance, the rapping, the dissing, everything. You guys get more and more vicious in your attacks on each others’ characters. Keep it up.
0:10 Henry Ford 1st round 0:49 Karl Marx 1st round 1:23 Henry Ford 2nd round 1:43 Yeesh 1:43 Karl Marx 2nd round 2:02 (don't pause here please) Henry Ford 3rd round 2:22 Karl Marx 3rd round
It gave me flash backs to Juliet’s last verse. Both were ruthless threw out their battles. Both decided to win. Both seem like they were fully there because of a grudge.
This one went HARD! From the beat to the punch after punch. ERB doesn't slow down, one of the rare ones that consistently gets better. Plus, I'm glad they're back to actual historical figures facing each other! *Chefs kiss
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
@@Chris.Daviesnah, make it Newton vs Dirac...similar screwed up childhoods, weird habits and antisocial personalities I totally did not just spend two months researching...yeah, it would be hilarious!
The amount of passion, dedication, and authenticity to this series is something you see once in a lifetime. Thank you for keeping us entertained and educated.
@@joshuasell9607 Nah, that was an extra little salt on the wounds. Marx had that battle from the second round and Ford didn't have anything major after the first.
What an absolutely perfect way to return. The lyrics were fantastic, beat was great, and the visuals were beautiful. So glad to see these guys still cranking out the best of the best.
@@Vazu3 naww man, putting Marx against a corporatist that capitalists don't like is just nonsense, they could've chosen Adam Smith, Hayeck, Mises, Rand, anyone that was actually a capitalist instead of a corporatist really.
As a Brazilian, I only got the "Brazilian city" after rewatching the battle. Ford used to have a factory (?) in my country where they harvested what I believe is rubber. They used it to make car tires. The name of the industrial complex is Fordlandia. If I'm not mistaken, it is a ghost town, or a nature reserve by today's date.
It was supposed to be a rubber plantation, but it was an unmitigated disaster. It's often cited as an example of colonial arrogance. Ford sent an all-American administrative team to run the place, refusing to accept any Brazilian in a position other than menial labor. So there was no-one in a position of authority who know about the local culture, weather conditions, ecology, or even the basics of rubber tree cultivation. It was run as if it were a little enclave of American work culture, with laborers expected to live in American-style dorms, served only cheap American food in the company canteen, and generally denied access to any local culture. Also expected to maintain American working hours in the tropical heat and sun, entirely ignoring that this risked heat-stroke. The trees were plagued by various diseases and damaging insects because, to maximise production, they were all planted in close proximity creating a dangerous monoculture. The employees were so miserable that they actually rose up in rebellion and shut down the plantation, until the government sent in the army to force them back to work at gunpoint. It never managed to produce any rubber - and some years later, chemists figured out how to turn oil into synthetic rubber, rendering the whole projust instantly obsolete. The town was abandoned for decades, aside from squatters who moved in out of desperation because the housing was still somewhat liveable.
Adding more context to this, as a fellow Brazilian - Fordlândia was a total failure and was given up on just a few years in, thanks to absurd labor conditions and just terrible agricultural planning in general. A 2009 article reported “not a single drop” of rubber made it to a Ford car. It did become something of a ghost town for a few decades afterwards, but got a population boost in the late 2000s and is now reported to house around 3000 people.
This one is amazing! These disses are insane! Peter and Lloyd, thank you creating one of the best series on RUclips, and inspiring so many other creators!
I’ve listened to you guys since I was a 6th grader in 2011, I love how you guy just always bring it with new fresh ideas and people and I really appreciate how deep you guys go in history to come up with these lines it’s honestly incredible. Thank you and can’t wait to see some more!!!
I am pretty sure I saw them live one time long before ERB was a thing. I know Peter and Lloyd both went to a college in my area and were part of an improv group which I saw live once, so even though I don't really remember it, odds are they were performing when I was there. The timeline makes sense too. It's one of those profound "small world" moments :P
Wow. This was just, wow. Marx's last verse went harder than the worker's conditions on Ford's company. Always love to see a new ERB but especially one with real history and not just American pop culture
Can't forget Ford's 2nd and 1st, he was holding more back than Stalin was holding back grain to Ukraine and still made him look like a crazy homeless man
@@JoeWithTheHoesBidenall he said was that "you're a hypocrite (Engels funded him), and you have medical issues" that's about it. Marx was pointing at the factory conditions and the workers within them not exactly happy with what they got and fought and died to change it.
@@JoeWithTheHoesBidenplease read a book. Stalin wasn’t a Marxist. Lennon wasn’t either. State capitalism is not communism. Learn who Trotsky was and what he did and who he supported during the revolution. Then learn who killed him. 👍
@@LundunDansqua Trotsky was supported by fascist like Hearst and he was killed by one of his disgruntled followers after learning that Trotsky was selling other communists to government. >Lennon wasn’t either Kek. Maybe you should actually read a book.
Marx's third verse was so battle ending. The fact that "Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did" wasnt his finishing line, but the opener for one of the most brutal series of bars I've seen on these kind of battles is insane. He had Ford dead by the time of "Your legacy's in ashes" bar and yet Marx kept hitting and hitting.
If you drive a car, you can thank Ford. If you were killed by your tyrannical communist government, you can thank Marx. Anyone who defends Marx is a loser.
It's a contender for the single most brutal verse in the series' history - It's layer upon layer of destruction. You think "Ok that's the last line" 2 or 3 times and it just keeps intensifying past that point.
Even crazier how the quality has consistently risen despite going from independent & partnered, to owned by Maker studios, back to independent with all kinds of personal trouble and life changes behind the scenes. You'd expect it to backslide a little when the budgets needed to get a bit tighter but it's always going further and further, more elaborate backgrounds, insane shots and really difficult effects (Just look at that fucking driving shot! The effect looks great).
So glad Peter is back and is doing okay. He posted on Reddit what he was going through and now hes battled himself back to sobriety. So glad the epic duo is back!
I am a history teacher, and I love showing ERBs to my students after we have done a lesson on these individuals. They always are amazed how much more they get from the lyrics. (Not realizing we are actually doing a material review. )😂 Lol! Another banger!
@@loganstecher2581 'a channel took a year break to get productions in order and get the pipeline moving; it must be dead.' The attention span these days.
@@burritodog3634 Only producing enough to be able to go a year without working. "Oh, it looks like ERB ad revenue is really down. Let's pump out a few songs so that people remember us and go back to rewatch all the older ones and bump those numbers up for another year. "
This was an amazing battle. Marx's third verse was absolutely ruthless and the beat was so amazing. I loved how it was able to switch up based on the character. An absolutely strong return
What I don't understand is Engals begged and pestered Karl Marx to finish Das Kapital when all he wanted to do was have his kids learn to play the piano.
ERB. One of the last great remnants of early-ish RUclips. Been around since at least 2009 & still can rack up 2mil views in a few days despite repeatedly falling into obscurity. I still find myself reciting rap battle verses from seasons 1-3 at least on the daily & this shit only just keeps getting better. I’m so glad that this channel is still running & going strong. Cheers to Peter & Lloyd🙌🙌
Look, guys, I absolutely love appearances from Deadpool, Batman, Joker and so on but there's something so special when you guys go down the actual historical figure path. Every time it's so good. I'm not saying the fictional character ones are bad, I can quote the majority of them from heart and love them dearly. These ones just hit so much harder. It's so good.
True the historical ones just hit different.
Real people's lives are so much more complex and messy than fictional people's, and that means there's just way more material to work with. The bragging, the banter, the insults, and the callouts all hit so much harder because they're all REAL.
Welcome back gents.
But Joker vs Pennywise was the best man 😂
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworthBro I don't know have you seen comic books.
Marx's last verse went so hard it seized my means of production.
"Reproduction" would have been funnier, but that was plenty good. "Frankly it's clear Auschwitz side you were on". They telegraphed the winner here with the musical swell at the end.
@@aquamarine99911bros the Joke Judge
@@jonniekimmins8015the comedy commander
I'm getting a full-on reacharound here. The father of Communism dropped the mic hard enough it bored a hole to the mohorovicic discontinuity,
@@Hectonkhyresum ackshually marx is the father of sciantific socialism as utopian communist ideologies were already developed by people like Fourier 🤓☝️
Hope y'all enjoy the battle. Thank you for being here :)
Welcome back, gentlemen. This was incredible.
thanks guys
Yalls rhyme schemes have helped me win so many jackbox games omg
RETURN OF THE KING
It was unexpected and very amazing thank yall I needed something good to watch ❤
If it was real ford would've just used antisemitic racial slurs
Based
They both were pretty anti semetic.
@@macblackadder93 No they aren't, Karl Marx is Jewish himself. What are you talking about
@@macblackadder93Marx was Jewish
So would the real Marx.
I love how Marx used 1984 comparing Ford to Big Brother and then Ford fires right back using Animal Farm.
Almost expected Orwell to make a cameo!
@mattlufcy1254 that should have totally happened.
"Boy did I call it, or what?" - George Orwell
So orwellian
@@tt3925 George Orwell vs. George W. Bush: Anti-war, Anti-surveillance left-wing Spanish Republican vs a Pro-war, Pro-surveillance right-wing American Republican
Man the amount of historical references here are truly a gift, absolute banger
yeah & the geoege orwell references edit:bro i am indian
@@edexplains everyone knows orwell, man. that's like the most shallow of the references. Are you in 5th grade reading orwell for the first time?
@@william3117why do you need to talk down on people who are just impressed with references
@@guimauves6374 Knowing Orwell is like being proud you passed high school English.
@@guimauves6374 beacuse he wouldnt dare to do it in real life
I love that last line from Marx, "Found on road dead". It's acronym spells out "Ford" and it's something my diehard Chevy loving grandpa says.
Chevys used to be way better. These days.... well Im not so sure.
Those who loved Ford, OTOH, claimed it means "first on race day". Unfortunately our house doesn't feel that way: a car with only 54K miles on it needed 7200 for a new engine block. So we traded it for a Nissan.
@tedscheett9420 Holy, that was quite brilliant!
My Dad always said Ford stood for "Fix or Repair Daily."
And Chevrolet was short for "Shove 'er in the Garage and Leave 'er Lay"
F&@ked over rebuild dodge
"Ford fährste Heim läufste"
("Drive there in a ford but walk back home")
- German Saying
karl benz vs henry ford
karl lagerfeld vs tommy hilfiger
karl marx vs groucho marx
Why
@@Shreysoldier I think it means the car broke down
@@NoThisIsNotMe. ty
@@Shreysoldier It's also a pun. "Ford" sounds very similar to the German word "fort", which in this context means "away". So, more literally, the saying translates to "You're driving away/Ford, (but) you're walking home."
Yeah, the lyricism is amazing, but can we acknowledge that beat?
The old-school drum and piano, the industrial noises integrated flawlessly, that groovy bassline in Henry's last verse and the epic choir in Karl's. Gotta be one of my favourite instrumentals so far.
Ikr, the beat is hype
Very 90's it's awesome
It's called Boombap
Sounds like old Wu
Even better, this beat is made in house. ERB. Probably their first track with an in house made beat.
Y'know, the makeup artist and costume designer are REALLY underrated, take this battle for a example, its pretty on point,
It’s very impressive, for sure. The costumes are damn near perfect here.
Reliably awesome production values!
@@Ocker3 Very true. I suppose you could say they seized the means of production.
When Ford says he is drippin' with style - he ain't lying.
@@Ianskogberg Both are dripping with style, as a matter of fact.
The #1 on trending is really well-deserved, this battle is amazing!
Agreed!
Part 2
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@@mpirerecords2204 *what*
@@mpirerecords2204what
@@deleetiusproductions3497 Its a botted account. Ignore it.
Some of the lines here are connected to history. Henry Ford did issue a $5 a day minimum wage for his worker, and a eight-hour a day work schedule. That came at a price. Worker houses are subject to random inspections. If a person drove any other brand of vehicle, had alcohol, or was unkempt to Company standards, their wages are reduced.
"You get that from books, but you didn't read shit" is a jab at Ford's lack of historical knowledge. On the stand for a libel suit in 1919, Ford said that the war for US independence was in 1812, and that traitor Benedict Arnold was an author, not a soldier. Among other false claims.
"Maybe that's why you spied on your workers like Big Brother." Ford did hire a gang of goons to keep his employees in line. If anyone was heard speaking of unionizing, the goons would pummel the person. They also went after people who went on break for too long. They were also known to look into people's windows. One man named Bennett would bring lions to work! Yes, lions. All in an effort to spy and intimidate workers.
"City in Brazil, nuts!" is a reference to Ford's attempt in producing cheap rubber by establishing a colony in Brazil, call Fordlândia. It was a disaster, lasting about six years. Like he did to his employees in the United States, Ford imposed strict rules on every aspect of worker life, including what foods are served in the company cafeteria, that went against the Portugese-speaking workers normal diets. This led to rebellion called Quebra-Panelas, or Breaking Pans. The revolt was suppresed by the Brazilian Army, but the point was made clear, Fordlandia was doomed before it began, and none of the rubber they hoped to harvest there ever made it to the United States.
"I gave men work" as Ford was considered a visionary and launched a new age of travel and business. His minimum wage and eight-hour work ethic, plus allowing employees to buy shares of the company gave thousands of people a chance at a new life.
"When they marched for better wages, you shot them dead in the streets." That did happen. Ford employees staged a hunger protest in March 1932, asking for worker's rights. Ford's goons, including the lion-training Bennett, opened fire on the protestors as they retreated. Bennett drove his car through the crowd firing a pistol out the window. The protestors countered with rocks, hitting Bennett and forcing him to abandon his car, while still firing his pistol. Ultimately Bennett killed a sixteen-year old boy. Ford's other goons fired into the crowd, killing a further four people.
"I'm so down with the cause I even pawned my own pants!" That's true. Marx was said to be so poor that his wife once pawned Karl's pants just to get money for food.
"Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did." Tragically that is true. Deeply opinionated and bully, Henry Ford was known to berate Edsal in public, break into his son's house and smash his alcohol, and more. One day Edsel showed off a prototype car to his father that he was proud of. Instead of being grateful, Henry smashed the car in front of his son and then threw it into a thrasher.
The end, Ford was not only revered by Germany, he received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest award for a foreigner in Germany at the time, for Ford's book 'The International Jew, the World's Foremost Problem.' Ford never officially recanted his Antisemitism. In fact, he had his own newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, that peddled his horrid views.
Also I would like to add some things too.
"And now your Great Lakes state ain't exactly a great sight,"
Marx was referring to the region known as the Rust Belt. Which includes Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. All which were hit hard by outsourcing of industrial production overseas for cheap labour or moved into the Southern US. (Also for cheap labour)
The results of which were a decline of heavy industry and the industrial sector in that region. The term "Rust Belt" is a dysphemism to describe industry that has "rusted out", usually referring to the impact of deindustrialization, economic decline, population loss, and urban decay on these regions attributable to the shrinking industrial sector especially including steelmaking, automobile manufacturing, and coal mining.
While Dearborn, Michigan is still performing well (still is Ford's main assembly plant for its pickups), Detroit did not have the same fate, with GM downsizing their manufacturing activities there due to the 2008 Great Recession and the shipping of work overseas.
"Your buddy Egnels bankrolled you with his Textile Mills,"
Frederick Egnels was the German who basically paid for the publishing of Karl Marx's books; and also tried to finish Das Kapital after the latter's death. Egnels wasn't able to sell those mills either, as the family will and testament said that it couldn't be sold or transferred to anyone else but him. After Marx died; Egnels left some sum of money to the former's children.
"Antisemitism" is just pattern recognition lol
@@schizopostingName checks out
Thank you
@@rbgerald2469thanks for the Great Lake explanation. I'm not from the US so any US reference would fly over my head.
My life has had an open void for far too long. Call the soldiers, tonight we celebrate 🎉🎉🎉
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Hope that void is filled
Yesssaaaaaaasssshhhhhh
I'm always extra excited when both opponents are actual historical figures.
I often don't mind the usage of fictional characters, but this battle certainly isn't too bad.
I get even more excited when they are related in any way
Ash Ketchum vs Charles Darwin wtf...
@@jeffbac1889 I think that one had to do with the idea of "evolution", so there's somewhat of a connection. But there are definitely worse. _Way worse._
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
@@deleetiusproductions3497isn't too bad? this is amazing!!!
I know you guys may never see this, but you’ve been an integral part of my childhood. Thank you for all of the great battles and puns
We are here. Thank you for the kind words.
@@ERB of course 😃
@@ERB You guys got me through middle school, high school, and now college. I look forward to every dick pun Lloyd can muster. Thanks :)
My man, Peter and Lloyd are arguably the most engaging content creators on the entire platform as far as I've seen. I've seen them replying to comments on videos months, even years, after the intial upload date. Actively participating in co-creation for their content and reading every single word their viewers write, these absolute legends are the best role models for other creators on this platform by far. If only their upload schedule (on ERB) would be just as perfect.. A man can only dream 🥲
P.S. obviously the rest of the ERB team besides Peter and Lloyd should be praised as well ❤
Childhood, oof, that makes me feel old.
They've been an integral part of my adulthood 😅
henry ford is a cautionary tale on why you never use your strongest attack first
You save the best for last like Marx did, which is what many agree won him this battle.
@@Bahr-im7pn The writing was honestly pretty awful, they boiled down Marx's responsibility for literally hundreds of millions into 2 lines, and just never wrote anything else for Ford to say.
Something something agenda being written here but idk
@@callsignsparty6503 Marx shouldn't be held responsible for that. He didn't intend on getting millions killed. Totalitarians who twisted his ideals to suit their own agendas did.
@@callsignsparty6503 even the black book of Communism could only make up 100 million in over a century lmao.
By the same metric people count the "victims" of Communism, Capitalism kills 100 million every 5 years.
@@callsignsparty6503 Hard to deny that Marx definitely got the Jenner treatment here with far more bars at the end.
There will always be a place on RUclips and the internet for creativity, talent and accurate history... so damn cool to watch all these years.
FINEALLY they uploaded
@@tikktokk7007Boooooo!!!
In an internet landscape where people try to game the system to optimize clicks and decrease attention spans, it’s genuinely heartening to see ERB create raps true to their style with somehow a brand new touch in this vid as there are in any other. The creativity and style is off the charts fr
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
This video is definitely amazing in terms of historical accuracy.
If you look closer. This is probably the most cutthroat two characters have been to date. Normally one rapper talks about themselves while the other counters, in this one they where both out for blood.
true
Cleopatra vs Marilyn Monroe was brutal as well
Yeah, they were going for the throat more than any other battle I can think of. In Roosevelt vs Churchill, they were both aggressive in their delivery but their burns themselves were more restrained than "your work was responsible for Mao and Stalin"(*) and "you were name-dropped in the most infamous book".
(*) - I'm not passing judgment about whether or not that's factually accurate, but it's a good burn.
@@bane2201 yes
Gotta give credit to people like Scru Face Jean for that happening, honestly. Scru's ERB reactions got big enough that they brought him on as one of the rappers (Mansa Musa) and his entire thing was pushing ERB to get more aggressive with the attacks and less on the flexing. Wouldn't be surprised if that was an influence, at least.
"Its clear Auschwitz side you were on"
one of the best lines I've heard,just brilliancy
My jaw literally dropped. It was klearl who won the battle.
“I’ll leave you as a Ford expected,
Found on road dead”
😂😂
*communist calls capitalist a Nazi*
Liberals: "HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT IS THE MOST ORIGINAL TOTALLY FUNNY LINE IVE EVER HEARD MY PROGRAMMING TELLS ME TO LAUGH NOW HHAHAHAHA."
@@Dragontron20 dude Ford actually supported hitler
@@Dragontron20 huh, liberals are capitalists. Why would they agree?
This one has so many great lines, a great beat and good visuals. Easy s tier ERB, you guys outdid yourselves.
The only thing this battle is missing is Friedrich Engels as Marx' background dancer
RUclips would have demonetized the video for having too much beard.
@@andrewklang809 lol
@@andrewklang809 i'm dumb i don't get the joke
Yes🤣🤣
@@TheDarkCeratosaurus Marx and Engels started the tradition of leftist philosophers having legendary beards. The beard that Marx has in this ERB is a faithful recreation
EpicLLOYD Has played every single type of Ideology before, from communist Marx, socialist Stalin, and Nazi Hitler, to capitalist Jeff Bezos and Emperor Napoleon.
He really is Mr. Worldwide.
Stalin wasn't really a Socialist. He was heading a State-Capitalist endeavour & I'd really just call him a Red Fascist :)
Don't forget the flute busting Prussian!
Marx described himself as a socialist fyi and used the terms socialist and communist interchangeably.
I'm kinda annoyed American schools work so hard to ignore proletariat revolution throughout history because they end up saying embarrassing shit as a result, like claiming the Nazis were socialists.
@@komali2"but they called themselves socialist!!! the Nazis wouldn't have lied about being socialist, right???"
@@KevinWarburton-tv2iytell me you don't know history without saying you don't know history
The fact that both of you have acted in 80+ of these battles and you still manage to find a unique way to portray every single character is nothing short of incredible. I think we long-term fans often take it for granted, but you two are remarkable actors, on top of you and your team being creative geniuses and masterful musicians. Amazing job as always, guys; glad to hear production is underway for more battles soon! ❤
They do have a makeup/special effects department. But absolute props do go to both of them for getting so deep into the role.
I just realized "your legacy is in ashes" could be another roast for Fords affiliation with the Nazi party especially with the line that precedes it... I listen to this like 2 times a week and I am still finding more details.
It’s not like Karl Marx is completely innocent of that either. He himself expressed anti semtic views towards Jewish people despite how he himself had Jewish ancestry. Sure he was ethnically Jewish though he obviously didn’t practice the religion. His Jewish heritage doesn’t excuse his hateful views as bigotry is bigotry no matter who believes in or says it.
@@jfournerat1274..But to "shake hand" with a funny mustache guy is definitely not a good thing for Ford and adds up to the many ugly things of him as well, yeah he is literally worse than Thatcher and Mountbatten
@@pilgrims6581yep Henry Ford was just as bad as Karl Marx due to his connection with the Nazis.
@@jfournerat1274 if you’re talking about the book he wrote called on the Jewish question. The book was more anti-organized religion than it was anti-Semitic.
Ford, some of his engineers, and some of his executives were instrumental in the Soviet Union setting up its manufacturing systems in the early 30's. They basically started the Soviets automobile production that helped out immensely in WW2, ya know, after the Nazi's broke the treaty they had with the Soviets.
I was a history major and even I had trouble keeping up this ERB. It was the most layered ERB on two historical figures that I've heard. The beat was even layered in a complex manner compared to other ERB's. I still enjoyed this ERB because the lyrics were great and the production team did a great job with the visuals.
I just watched Extra Credits History's recent Ford series and got pretty much everything.
@@PatrickKnieslerI'm the reverse cause I've recently been reading on Marx but missed some of the Ford stuff
Yes! It was so complex, perfectly executed, and went hard!
The rips on ford in the last verse were brutal
I loved matching up what I learned from Mark Steel's Lecture on Karl Marx with what was in this ERB. Tons of fun!
Dude the way he characterized Ford as just having a blast vs Marx's furious energy was amazing
ones a revolutionary and ones a capitalist, I would expect no less.
@@mysteryman703exactly the point, ignorance is bliss, especially when your force it on yourself, knowledge is power yes, but also the worst burden one could have.
@@thedirewolfking2274 mistaking dialectical materialism for dialectical idealism. Marx would be disappointed.
It’s quite a neat contrast, indeed.
Well he is a rich capitalist bastard joking about killing workers, that have the chance to insult a poor and a socialist, if course he have a blast.
Half of his insult are LOL Stalin and Mao and you stink and is poor old man.
While Marx have a insensitive bastard that say shit about him, mainly about his poverty and hygiene, and helped the nazi while leaving a legacy of working slavery. Of course he is pissed off.
I’m convinced Peter and Lloyd could perfectly impersonate anyone on earth
Or elsewhere…
They can definitely write rhymes for then in a rap battle
Especially Batman
They might as well be actors at this point. I want them guest star in an episode of Invincible or Something. Maybe doing aliens or heroes. Lol
They're like Batman, they only need prep time.
I'd do just about anything to be in one video... Just one.
Genuinely might be one of the best y'all've ever made. Good shit.
This series has easily the most consistency and longevity of any on youtube. I'll always watch them as long as you're making them!
What about Zero Punctua... oh. :(
“Consistency” in quality maybe but not in upload schedule lmao
As much as I love ERB… Rhett and Link have something to say about that.
@@TeasGuideToThePlanes What's there to be sad about? it's litterally back and better than ever along with being under a better banner. It's now called "Fully Rambonic" and under a new channel called second wind!
@@rws531true, but that's what freshy kanal is for
jesus christ that last verse...
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Aradir te amo
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It’s insane that I remember playing the shit out of Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates when I was 9, and here I am today at 19 still listening to ERB on repeat 😂
No shit! I was 7 around the time, and I’m 17 now! Holy- I feel old as hell now… where did the time go?
As a newer fan, I can't say I know what that's like. I imagine it's quite neat, though.
Dude don't to that... yer making the age catch up...
Dang, I am also ten years older now. It can't be a coincidence
@@drdrew7475 teehee
Ok, the additions to the beat on each of their last verses is really getting me. The bassline added to ford’s as the self sufficiency ideal of capitalism, the choir with the bassline added back in later in marx’s the one and many ideology of communism, just *french kiss*
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The bassline also doubles as the car's engine.
I think you meant chef's kiss, but you do you. Maybe Ford just really gets you revved up.
Oh my god that's such a good observation! Thank you!!
Can't believe I went from internet dwelling teenager to fully blown adult man and this series literally hasn't stopped. Thanks for the continuous nostalgia bois! Also dayum that last Marx round was brutal.
Ford was a NAZI
It's amazing how they're still going after 13 years. Maybe not as strong as they once were, though.
@UncleMikeNJ lol
@@deleetiusproductions3497 nah, they're even better
@@bibblehouse Okay, it is true that the battles are better than they were at first. However, look at those view counts compared to what they once got.
the fact that ERB can take such a long break, and STILL MAKE BANGERS, make me so happy i’ve been watching for so long
they were just putting this on the slow cooker for us and it turned out fire 🔥
similar to the robot in your pfp
@@Lo-Sir ONG
Fax
and from what I hear the next one SHOULD be out by the end of December
Can I take a moment to offer tremendous kudos to Lloyd on this one - his ability to mold himself into each character improves during every battle, and I was legitimately unclear for the first minute whether Marx was him or not. Absolutely incredible work all around.
I was shocked as well. He did absolutely amazing in this
You were not legitimately unclear... you know very well Karl Marx is dead. Dont try to attention hoard
As soon as he frowns you can tell it's him ahah
@@zeldzamezeeslak6082I think he means that Lloyd was acting as Marx and not someone else, not that Marx himself was there
@@biannualcube2704 - Pretty sure that was the joke.
DAYUMMM MARX definitely destroyed him oop 🥶🥶
ford dropped the hardest lines in his first part, its like giving someone a full course meal and then giving a little chocolate bar after that
People talking about the lyrics but the set design and 3D work on this one is legitimately probably my favorite of any recent ERB. Really good work here especially the big brother and car shots!
the battles with fictional characters can be fun. But I always love it when you have history vs history.
I agree completely.
DARTH VADER vs ADOLF HITLER!!!!
Always loved the mix of fictional vs real life. Or maybe historical vs modern.
@@FusionFullForce Yeah, those can also be good.
I love pilosophers and economists.
The actual history characters are always my favorite ones. Welcome back ERB!
Henry ford:”when a world leader likes you that’s a red flag”
A Henry do you know who referenced you in his book
Hitler: "That Marx guy had his head screwed on left."
Hitler also mentioned marx.
@@sebastienholmes548he specifically was against Marxist socialism as he called it
He was also a great man.
Hey, remind me, how many people did Hitler kill, exactly? While you're googling that, can you also google the same thing but for Stalin and Mao? Thanks.
"Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did" even Ford was disgusted at how brutal that line was lmfao
Like Ford gets to be appalled, considering that he ended his first verse by mocking Marx over how many of his children he wound up outliving.
Marx = *#ThugLife*
Nah best line was clearly:
Its clear aushwitz side your were on
Probably disgusted by being reminded of his son
To be fair, Ford was the one who opened that particular can of worms in the first verse.
"You grew so out of touch you sabatoged your only kid! Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did." Might be one of the rawest and most brutal disses in this show.
Brutal indeed.
It’s right up there with the *Miss Carriage* line from the cleopatra vs Marylin Monroe battle
@@ShyGreenBean agreed
"My lines are production, your lines are bread" was pretty ruthless. And true.
@@russbilderback Ford's best verse was his first. Marx's best was his last.
The recreation of the Marx picture with the chair was simply amazing
I agree.
this and che guevara's recreation are just the makeup artists flexing on how GOOD these guys can impersonate historical pics
This is truly. An Epic Rap battle of History.
The historical bars were immaculate, thank you!
It's insane how after every period of absence you guys always come out swinging so damn hard. Good to have you back again!
Gotta give huge props to Lloyd here for his half Russian half German accent. Bloody incredible
That's meant to be a Prussian accent, and I certainly liked it.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 yes
@@SirQuantization *_yes_*
Yes
yes
My husband and i watched the very first ERB together in 2011 after we started dating. 12 years later we are married and they are still producing bangers. Y'all on the ERB family are amazing, incredibly talented people ❤️
did you say your vows in rap battle format?
Aww that's wholesome
so like whenever you two argue does it go like "MARITAL DISAGREEMENT! WIFE! VS! HUSBAAAAND! BEGIN!"
Haha omg that would have been epic. No, my husband is a traditionalist so we did the traditional vows - I'll have to remember that though if we ever renew them!
Lol we are pretty blessed and rarely argue, but now I'll start hearing that in the back of my mind. I'll tell him we'll have to flyte it out like zues and thor!
I keep coming back to this, and I'm utterly convinced the last verse of this one is the best thing ERB has ever written.
Every time I finally start coming to grips with the idea that you guys probably won't keep creating these masterpieces anymore, you go and surprise us with another epic drop. My heart can't take it 😂❤ you guys are awesome
I am Brazilian, and I did not know that there was a city called Fordlândia (Ford-Land) in my country. Apparently, this city was established by Ford to raise his company production of rubber.
And it went VERY VERY FUCKIN BADLY
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Great news there's a very good and funny yt video I linked above that serves as a great mini doc about Fordlandia and how much an absolutely disaster it was
Wendigoon made a really good video about it
He made a whole city?
@@lavellelee5734 yeah and it went fucking horrifically
I remember watching my first epic rap battle of history 10 years ago and I am still loving them, their success is very well deserved
That must be neat, to have been around since early on.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 it has been amazing to see them and their channel evolve and improve
For me it was the Steven Hawking vs. Einstein one, must have been ~2010/2011. My roomates and I were laughing about it for weeks.
This was one of the hardest ERB battles I've ever heard.. 😵😵 they really went in!
I don't know who seized the means of production at RRB but this episode clearly came straight of a hyper calibrated assembly line!
Indeed. It's simply amazing.
Henry Ford rose from the dead to pump out an absolute banger straight from his factory
The incredible part is over the years, you can tell that ERB has gone deeper and deeper into the historical rabbit hole and actually has made a critical arguement for each person.
We went from two fascists throwing words to one another to basically a firm handed reality share that maybe Ford stimulated the best and worst of American dominance over production.
Not to say Marx got his share of heat, but wow that finale.
Big love ERB, thanks for walking with me from high-school well into my happy adulthood.
Marx was not a fascist....he was the leader of the communist movement which was going on at that time and butted heads historically at that time with fascism.
I agree though! This was great!
@@the620master The two fascists he meant were Hitler and Vader from the early ERB.
@@the620masterEver heard of horseshoe theory?
the critical arguments in question
against henry ford: not self-made, bad working conditions, questionable relations with nazis
against marx: stinky hobo
@@lanata64 Also Ford was a horrible parent to Edsel, which probably caused his son's stomach cancer.
I am so glad, after so many years, you guys are still around pumping high quality content
“Pumping” is a strong word here
But I do agree that it remains high quality, and in fact I appreciate that they don’t turn into a content factory where the quality slowly dips. Less releases but maintaining the standards will always be better
This radiates old school ERB energy like Season 2. Return to greatness just Peter vs Lloyd
The dichotomy between Karl Marx writing to Lincoln urging him to end slavery and Ford sympathizing with Hitler being pointed out was BRUTAL
I agree, it’s an interesting juxtaposition.
it's almost like the people we've been told are bad guys aren't and those we've been told are good guys are.@@deleetiusproductions3497
Lincoln was the worst president in history.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 you can just say comparison lol
@@danielbojkovski723 I like big words.
Karl's delivery at the end was clean, especially his final line. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Almost forgot how much I missed these. My day is a bit brighter now.
As a history major, your videos and especially your lyrics are always a sight so behold. So much insightful and deep cutting references combined with amazingly written bars. So glad you guys are back, please never stop dropping these
Wish I could show some of these videos to my students but most are bit too crude for the classroom.
as a graduating polisci/history double major, I wholeheartedly agree. This was beautiful in soooo many ways
Part 2
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@@mpirerecords2204……booooooo
Lolol. I’d have to say, I really don’t like the song you posted.
@@CStone-xn4oyI'd say show them anyway.
Then I'd ask what age are your students.
When you are in modern world history and you know who the most interesting historical figures are and you can choose who your project is on 0:48
Been excited for this matchup for a long time! Impeccably executed! This one's going on loop!
the GOATs
hehe just knew you'd be somewhere in the comments
have a good day sir
@@monseurwanksalotte3477I don't think stupes goes by sir anymore
Nice to see you on here. Didn't know you liked this channel so much
@@bluexephosfan970 Alright, then find the word "sir" a gender-neutral replacement that still conveys the same amount of respect that "sir" does.
Like seriously nitpicking on someone calling another person "sir" is really dumb.
I've been watching your videos since I was 16 after stumbling across Stephen Hawking vs Albert Einstein while researching for a science project. I'm nearly 30 and I want to thank you guys for bringing a mixture of fun and education to almost half of my life!
That's how I found them too, in a history lesson about Jeanne d'Arc
This... fucking this
Me too man! Same with Stephen Hawking vs Albert Einstein!
I'm 43 and I've been watching these since I was nearly 30 😝
These get better very year in every way: production, setting, costumes, impressions, performance, the rapping, the dissing, everything. You guys get more and more vicious in your attacks on each others’ characters. Keep it up.
This is better than what they made in 2022, no doubt.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 I mean is that even a question?
@@flamingpaxtsc There's no doubts about it, as I said.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 so trueeeee bestie. Slay, queen 💅💅
You didn't like Indy vs Lara Croft?
0:10 Henry Ford 1st round
0:49 Karl Marx 1st round
1:23 Henry Ford 2nd round
1:43 Yeesh
1:43 Karl Marx 2nd round
2:02 (don't pause here please) Henry Ford 3rd round
2:22 Karl Marx 3rd round
What's wrong with pausing at 2:02?
the choir that kicks in at the end makes Marx's last verse feel like the final boss fight and I love it
It gave me flash backs to Juliet’s last verse. Both were ruthless threw out their battles. Both decided to win. Both seem like they were fully there because of a grudge.
It’s fitting that this feels like a final boss, since Marx saved his best for last.
The harmonization on "from your newspaper to your Nazi factory cross the pond" is what sold it, I can't stop playing that verse
@@SnownelVEVO saaame
It's not a choir. It's a synth choir "instrument" on a keyboard.
Jesus, this battle is *unreal*. The non-fiction ones always hit hard, but this one (especially Marx's last verse) is just immaculate.
@@tikktokk7007 What is that emo s. I didn't know that MGK can be even whiter.
i like how you start with a fictional character in your comment about non fiction
@@alanmacdonald1457why are you trying to start a war in the comment section?
@@alanmacdonald1457so edgy
@@darklex5150just ignore them, they’re clearly starved for attention.
This one went HARD! From the beat to the punch after punch. ERB doesn't slow down, one of the rare ones that consistently gets better. Plus, I'm glad they're back to actual historical figures facing each other! *Chefs kiss
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
@@Chris.Daviesnah, make it Newton vs Dirac...similar screwed up childhoods, weird habits and antisocial personalities I totally did not just spend two months researching...yeah, it would be hilarious!
Part 2
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They ARE slowing down, but I'll take that any day versus any loss of quality. Keep the golden standard up ERB!
@@ravenwraith1017 Both of you are wrong. Newton battled Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson. Not “should” battle them, “did”.
“I’ll leave a ford as expected, found on road… dead” thermonuclear impact
The amount of passion, dedication, and authenticity to this series is something you see once in a lifetime. Thank you for keeping us entertained and educated.
I imagine it takes a lot of hard work to make these, and I am grateful.
yeah, its SUPER hard to make these now, which is why they only put out two a year, compared to the 16 a year in the past
@@jiromochizuiki At this point, it's more like one per year.
That last bar Karl Marx dropped was impacting like a head on collision 💥.
Idk I feel like the last line was him reacting like he’d been caught so he was saying anything to get out a win
@@joshuasell9607 Nah, that was an extra little salt on the wounds. Marx had that battle from the second round and Ford didn't have anything major after the first.
@@theog2306 I personally prefer his third verse, but you can have your opinion.
@@joshuasell9607 nah, it was fire, he busted his cars and dropped his nazi affiliations like a bomb. HOT BARS
@@joshuasell9607nah, that last bar was a mic drop
What an absolutely perfect way to return. The lyrics were fantastic, beat was great, and the visuals were beautiful. So glad to see these guys still cranking out the best of the best.
And the theme too, it was smart to big two opposites that the public knows and get them go head on head.
@@Vazu3 naww man, putting Marx against a corporatist that capitalists don't like is just nonsense, they could've chosen Adam Smith, Hayeck, Mises, Rand, anyone that was actually a capitalist instead of a corporatist really.
Read your comment while listening to the video.
It almost fits the beat
@@paloim....hate to break it to ya but capitalists and corporatists are the exact same thing mate.
@@gaybowser4967 they aren't, if you think corporatism and capitalism are the same then you have 0 clue what you're talking about
6.9 million views is not a bad number by any metric but this battle deserves FAR more
And the BEAT. AHHHHHH
As a Brazilian, I only got the "Brazilian city" after rewatching the battle. Ford used to have a factory (?) in my country where they harvested what I believe is rubber. They used it to make car tires. The name of the industrial complex is Fordlandia. If I'm not mistaken, it is a ghost town, or a nature reserve by today's date.
It was supposed to be a rubber plantation, but it was an unmitigated disaster. It's often cited as an example of colonial arrogance. Ford sent an all-American administrative team to run the place, refusing to accept any Brazilian in a position other than menial labor. So there was no-one in a position of authority who know about the local culture, weather conditions, ecology, or even the basics of rubber tree cultivation. It was run as if it were a little enclave of American work culture, with laborers expected to live in American-style dorms, served only cheap American food in the company canteen, and generally denied access to any local culture. Also expected to maintain American working hours in the tropical heat and sun, entirely ignoring that this risked heat-stroke.
The trees were plagued by various diseases and damaging insects because, to maximise production, they were all planted in close proximity creating a dangerous monoculture. The employees were so miserable that they actually rose up in rebellion and shut down the plantation, until the government sent in the army to force them back to work at gunpoint. It never managed to produce any rubber - and some years later, chemists figured out how to turn oil into synthetic rubber, rendering the whole projust instantly obsolete. The town was abandoned for decades, aside from squatters who moved in out of desperation because the housing was still somewhat liveable.
Adding more context to this, as a fellow Brazilian - Fordlândia was a total failure and was given up on just a few years in, thanks to absurd labor conditions and just terrible agricultural planning in general. A 2009 article reported “not a single drop” of rubber made it to a Ford car.
It did become something of a ghost town for a few decades afterwards, but got a population boost in the late 2000s and is now reported to house around 3000 people.
Thanks for adding interesting info to my comment, folks!
@@vylbird8014dang that's a lot of context. Kudos
Great comments.
As someone from Detroit, the amount of facts loaded in this made me laugh. Thanks for always keeping it real!
Well, it's good for you that the region where you live is getting some attention from ERB.
like how Socialist policies destroyed one of the countries greatest cities?
Yeah, he totally owned that Marxist!
Amen to that!!! Represent Detroit!
That Flint Michigan line went hard
Seeing ERB show up with a new video is like seeing an old friend show up to a party unexpectedly to remind you why you were friends.
1:12 (1984)
1:43 (Animal Farm)
I love how both Karl Marx and Henry Ford both use Gorge Orwell novel to diss each other
ERB is the very definition of quality over quantity.
next battle out in 2029 stay tuned!
Agreed, although it can get kinda boring waiting tho
Good thing they left Disney, cuz they're the complete opposite
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Always have been
This one is amazing! These disses are insane! Peter and Lloyd, thank you creating one of the best series on RUclips, and inspiring so many other creators!
One of the few channels that produce quality content
Waitwaitwait I know you hold on
Im Brazilian and I've never heard of "Fordland" Great work, guys! ERB is becoming a great source of information and culture!
Such an obscure reference, ERB is really good at putting those in.
Wendigoon has a fun video about it
Brazil mentioned 🎉🎉🎉🎉.
Part 2
ruclips.net/video/3AOixayEB_k/видео.htmlsi=0u8RZZ5xZ54XU04C
same
Good to see y'all are still making bangers all these years later.
I’ve listened to you guys since I was a 6th grader in 2011, I love how you guy just always bring it with new fresh ideas and people and I really appreciate how deep you guys go in history to come up with these lines it’s honestly incredible. Thank you and can’t wait to see some more!!!
Are you me? XD
@@samborgensjr6456for real? I mean damn literally same
Same!!!!
I started to listen to this during my 3rd grade in middle school instead lol but it's totally my trajectory too
I am pretty sure I saw them live one time long before ERB was a thing. I know Peter and Lloyd both went to a college in my area and were part of an improv group which I saw live once, so even though I don't really remember it, odds are they were performing when I was there. The timeline makes sense too. It's one of those profound "small world" moments :P
Wow. This was just, wow. Marx's last verse went harder than the worker's conditions on Ford's company.
Always love to see a new ERB but especially one with real history and not just American pop culture
Can't forget Ford's 2nd and 1st, he was holding more back than Stalin was holding back grain to Ukraine and still made him look like a crazy homeless man
Marxism has caused millions more deaths than any other ideology in the world
@@JoeWithTheHoesBidenall he said was that "you're a hypocrite (Engels funded him), and you have medical issues" that's about it. Marx was pointing at the factory conditions and the workers within them not exactly happy with what they got and fought and died to change it.
@@JoeWithTheHoesBidenplease read a book. Stalin wasn’t a Marxist. Lennon wasn’t either. State capitalism is not communism. Learn who Trotsky was and what he did and who he supported during the revolution. Then learn who killed him. 👍
@@LundunDansqua Trotsky was supported by fascist like Hearst and he was killed by one of his disgruntled followers after learning that Trotsky was selling other communists to government.
>Lennon wasn’t either
Kek. Maybe you should actually read a book.
Im honestly surprised that ERB is still making rap battles. This should win a award for the longest running series.
The cow can always handle another lil beating.
Not even close to the longest.
@nero48red vs blue is going on 20 years now
@@Linki8uuthought they stopped that years ago
Also ERB hasn't been consistent enough.
This is probably the best ERB ever
What a great battle to kick things off! My hats off to the editors, the transition to Peter being in the car and then Loyd showing up was killer.
Whoever brainstormed P.T Barnum vs Vince McMahon is a genius beyond compare
That was Discord Rap Battles, not Epic Rap Battles of History
yeah I'm kinda bummed how low the votes were
exactly
@theraginggamer8562 discord rap battles probably got the idea from something on erb community posts, they also made the red baron vs the white death
@@Addsupand in case anyone is curious that was mentioned all the way back in the patreon song
Marx's third verse was so battle ending. The fact that "Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did" wasnt his finishing line, but the opener for one of the most brutal series of bars I've seen on these kind of battles is insane. He had Ford dead by the time of "Your legacy's in ashes" bar and yet Marx kept hitting and hitting.
Marx absolutely fucking annihilated. Straight up one of the best performances in any ERB.
Karl left no room for any retort 🔥
If you drive a car, you can thank Ford. If you were killed by your tyrannical communist government, you can thank Marx. Anyone who defends Marx is a loser.
It's a contender for the single most brutal verse in the series' history - It's layer upon layer of destruction. You think "Ok that's the last line" 2 or 3 times and it just keeps intensifying past that point.
After the your legacy’s in ashes was a bop fr how he flowed 😂
Marx easy win. Just look at the most popular replayed parts of the vid, Marx's verses
Some channels get worse with time, some better. It's crazy how ERB has been insanely good for over a decade!
Since Albert E=mc²
Even crazier how the quality has consistently risen despite going from independent & partnered, to owned by Maker studios, back to independent with all kinds of personal trouble and life changes behind the scenes. You'd expect it to backslide a little when the budgets needed to get a bit tighter but it's always going further and further, more elaborate backgrounds, insane shots and really difficult effects (Just look at that fucking driving shot! The effect looks great).
This... was 1000% worth the wait! Just wanted to say Thank You to the ERB Crew. You guys never cease to amaze and I appreciate all of you.
Fatherless bots above
Did you know that cats can be gay lesbian or bisexual :3
we always want more, but are willing to wait for when they're ready to - as then it's legit!
@@Freckle_McMurray weird flex, but ok?
@@beetlebg3759 All your base are belong to us
So glad Peter is back and is doing okay. He posted on Reddit what he was going through and now hes battled himself back to sobriety. So glad the epic duo is back!
I like bread🍞
Didn't know about that, congrats to him. I know from experience how hard that battle is.
@@RobynLeSueurI can imagine.
@@RobynLeSueurSame. I'm glad he's doing better.
Are you the real Sid
I ain't no fan of communism and all, but Karl Marx destroyed Henry Ford, especially with that last verse.
I am a history teacher, and I love showing ERBs to my students after we have done a lesson on these individuals. They always are amazed how much more they get from the lyrics. (Not realizing we are actually doing a material review. )😂 Lol! Another banger!
That sounds like great teaching to me. :)
Totally not biased what so ever…
id kill to have a teacher like you, ngl.
Analyze each line and try to figure out why they said it, because each line is rich in history. I just did that for fun and I'm 38. Good teacher.
I'm jealous, wish you were my history teacher in high school.
i’ve quite literally grown up with this channel and its so cool to see its still producing well-made, well thought-out content
"...still producing..." is a bit of a stretch.
@@loganstecher2581 'a channel took a year break to get productions in order and get the pipeline moving; it must be dead.' The attention span these days.
@@loganstecher2581you do realize that one of them has a kid now. Imagine calling a channel dead because someone wants to take care of their family
ERB has finally returned and is as awesome sauce as ever!
ya and then theyll be gone for another year
Erb never fails
yep
Bro said awesome sauce in 2023 💀
@@burritodog3634 Only producing enough to be able to go a year without working. "Oh, it looks like ERB ad revenue is really down. Let's pump out a few songs so that people remember us and go back to rewatch all the older ones and bump those numbers up for another year. "
The best ERB video so far. This is number 1
It still astounds me how much work y'all put into these rap battles. There's just so much to unpack it's unreal
Ruined the 420 likes lol
This was an amazing battle. Marx's third verse was absolutely ruthless and the beat was so amazing. I loved how it was able to switch up based on the character. An absolutely strong return
Agreed. The last verse dropped by Marx is completely brutal, and dare I say, win him this battle?
It was all Ford until Marx’s 3rd best and then it was a toss up
What I don't understand is Engals begged and pestered Karl Marx to finish Das Kapital when all he wanted to do was have his kids learn to play the piano.
Marx's last verse was accompanied by a chorus you typically hear in soviet music. Was a nice touch and gave his brutal ripping on Ford more gravitas.
Yup, seriously. Karl's win after the 3rd
ERB. One of the last great remnants of early-ish RUclips. Been around since at least 2009 & still can rack up 2mil views in a few days despite repeatedly falling into obscurity. I still find myself reciting rap battle verses from seasons 1-3 at least on the daily & this shit only just keeps getting better. I’m so glad that this channel is still running & going strong. Cheers to Peter & Lloyd🙌🙌
Agreed man. Leonidas and MC on top of all the Vader vs Hitler’s live rent free in my head.
I like bread🍞
That 2M is likely thanks in large part to it getting #1 on Trending, undeniably an immense feat.
oh yeah, the Ghostbusters/Mythbusters one and the Turtles/Artists one live rent free in my skull
This comment. The Abe Lincoln rap is continually hanging out in Free Parking
I love how aggressive the voice announcer is in the beginning