Henry Ford: A Tragic End - US History - Part 5 - Extra History

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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +154

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    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 месяцев назад +7

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    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +12

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    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 месяцев назад +3

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    • @Swedish_Boi_Main
      @Swedish_Boi_Main 11 месяцев назад +2

      Love the content, can you cover the swedish revolution

    • @SuperWindsage
      @SuperWindsage 11 месяцев назад +2

      yeah lets not pretend, he did alot of good stuff for industrialization but he was a gangster thug in alot of ways.

  • @ABCDFG-vc8so
    @ABCDFG-vc8so 11 месяцев назад +1174

    It feels his life changed him from a boy who hated horses, to a man who simply hated

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +240

    • @connorhilchie2779
      @connorhilchie2779 11 месяцев назад +78

      That's the thing about anger and hatred. You need something/someone to focus it towards, otherwise all it will do is stew and change you

    • @E_Clampus_Vitus
      @E_Clampus_Vitus 6 месяцев назад +8

      He didn’t want Americans to be sucked into financial usury. Today our country is $34 trillion in debt. 👈that’s the only hate I see.

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 6 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@E_Clampus_VitusHe had seen how debt destroyed farm families.

    • @jose-phv
      @jose-phv 2 месяца назад +1

      in both ways, he got rid of the horses.

  • @johndriscoll213
    @johndriscoll213 11 месяцев назад +1684

    This episode ending by calling back to "a boy who hated horses" is brilliant. Thanks guys.

    • @abcdef27669
      @abcdef27669 11 месяцев назад +85

      You can also call Henry Ford by this: “The Man Who Created Modern America by Destroying His Own World”.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +101

    • @AahanJoshi-s3x
      @AahanJoshi-s3x 11 месяцев назад +7

      Nice Emoji !@@extrahistory

    • @a50ftfall6
      @a50ftfall6 11 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@extrahistoryyour ending lines are really good.
      They give me goosebumps.
      Not the bad kind like the omg kind.

    • @Psycro
      @Psycro 11 месяцев назад +1

      Spoiler alert!?!

  • @TheJacobG
    @TheJacobG 11 месяцев назад +2311

    I think Ford is a prime example of the importance of, when learning history, not letting the good outshine the bad, but also not letting the bad overshadow the good. To truly understand we examine the whole.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 11 месяцев назад +75

      yeah like Nikola Tesla. Sure he revolutionized a new way to use electricity, but he was also outspoken in his beliefs of eugenics.

    • @jokuvaan5175
      @jokuvaan5175 11 месяцев назад +42

      ​@@GiordanDiodatoAnd fell in deep love with a pidgeon.

    • @muhammadsyed5496
      @muhammadsyed5496 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@jokuvaan5175 that is the funniest thing I have ever heard if thats true

    • @alexisbudzisz
      @alexisbudzisz 11 месяцев назад +4

      Well said, especially in times like ours

    • @espio87
      @espio87 11 месяцев назад +19

      Not only that, but that also makes the person in question much more interesting. Another good example of this was the Extra Sci Fi episode on John W. Campbell. A person should be depicted with all their faults and virtues so you can be inspired by their achievements and learn from their failures.

  • @Prich319
    @Prich319 11 месяцев назад +1363

    Henry Ford literally lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

    • @aceous99
      @aceous99 11 месяцев назад +41

      money is the root of all evil, we touch it every day, we stare at it long enough that it starts to stare back in.

    • @derrickburwell7777
      @derrickburwell7777 11 месяцев назад +60

      ​@@aceous99The love of money is the root to all evil.

    • @gabrielc7861
      @gabrielc7861 11 месяцев назад +23

      ​@aceous99 no, the root of all evil is power, and money is a type of power.

    • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
      @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 11 месяцев назад +3

      Probably would've only needed to live to his 40s though.

    • @DorfVG
      @DorfVG 11 месяцев назад +10

      there is no root of all evil, it all depends on the persons personality and the situation they find themself in

  • @bananatassium7009
    @bananatassium7009 11 месяцев назад +1277

    this episode was heartbreaking, i can't imagine what it was like for edsel to go through that as someone who probably shares a fair few personality traits with him

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +238

      It is tough to see happen. Especially because he was so innovative. you think that would carry him through life and he would continue to do so.

    • @Nostripe361
      @Nostripe361 11 месяцев назад +104

      Really hit me with the part about his father trying to provoke him and “make him a real man”. Heard story after story of parents thinking they are helping their kids by bullying them

    • @darthparallax5207
      @darthparallax5207 11 месяцев назад +21

      Poor foolish families.
      But I do give the Fords credit that they accomplished things for the world.
      If I were to make a version of Henry in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign, it would be fascinating to explore him as a lich who pioneers new ways to do Magic, that change how Wizards all over the Realms do magic, but of course one chooses a Lich because it would be appropriate to suggest it cost poor Henry his Soul as a damned living undead.
      Perhaps the Adventurers could be tasked on the Highest Epic imaginable:
      Is it possible to reverse a Horcrux ritual and *return* Henry's soul to him? Can he be viewed more like Darth Vader than like Voldemort? Does having a wife and children have a chance of magically redeeming him to reclaim humanity?
      Thought provoking questions I would say.
      I would say Henry broke or did not understand or did not appreciate his son.
      But I would say he attempted to love his son in the manner that made sense to him. By all means compare it to the failures of Odin in the Marvel version of Thor.
      I believe he cared and I'd be quite interested to continue to read what intelligent authors have to say about the nuances and the failures from a point of view of calling it a nightmarish tragedy with a large blast radius of collateral damage.

    • @LookToWindward
      @LookToWindward 11 месяцев назад +22

      I remember my dad telling me about the empty hole in the ground story that he heard from his dad when he was young. I thought it was probably just a myth!

  • @braverydoesstuff4063
    @braverydoesstuff4063 11 месяцев назад +790

    As much as we credit Ford for his work for helping shape america, the darker side of him during his later life is unforgivable. Not to mention how he treated Edsel even after he learned he had stomach cancer. Goes to show us that figures of history aren’t as squeaky clean as we wish they were.
    Thank you Extra History for telling this tale! Your work is always a joy to watch!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +127

      Historical people are just people. Lots of good and lots of bad. Thanks so much for hanging out with us today!

    • @Ninja1Ninja2
      @Ninja1Ninja2 11 месяцев назад +25

      nobody suffered from success quite like the 20th century industrial tycoons

    • @sfrinzi429
      @sfrinzi429 11 месяцев назад +11

      A truly american in every way possible

    • @commandercorl1544
      @commandercorl1544 11 месяцев назад

      Ford is partially responsible for the h0I0caust, as H!tler's writings and ideology closely followed Ford's publishings, and supposedly influenced H!tler's opinions.

    • @evanulven8249
      @evanulven8249 11 месяцев назад

      Ford's dark side shaped america just as much as his technical and engineering acumen. Perhaps even more so.

  • @b4ushoutxyz_66
    @b4ushoutxyz_66 11 месяцев назад +485

    Edsel deserved better. Fathers like Henry ford don't want their children to exceed them, they want them to be just as horrible as they are. It is very likely that the stomach cancer Edsel got, was been caused by the sheer level of stress Henry caused his son.

    • @spectator8401
      @spectator8401 11 месяцев назад +77

      exacerbated by his smoking and drinking habits too
      how tragic that a small rebellion against his dad tyrant ways backfired

    • @Nostripe361
      @Nostripe361 11 месяцев назад +67

      @@spectator8401I almost wonder, if his dad would have been nicer to him, what are the chances that he could calmly convinced him to, if not stop, at least moderate his drinking and smoking

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 11 месяцев назад +32

      @@Nostripe361 I wonder if Henry himself thought the same things in his final moments.

    • @oceanberserker
      @oceanberserker 11 месяцев назад +39

      ​@@nathanseper8738Rotters like him almost never do. I'm surprised his grandson didn't attempt to get payback for what he did to his father, Edsel.

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 11 месяцев назад +26

      @@oceanberserker Well, Henry Ford II did get control of the company from his grandfather. Maybe that was payback?

  • @FourLetterLWord
    @FourLetterLWord 11 месяцев назад +383

    Somehow it had not occurred to me until you said he died in 1947 that Ford was still alive during my own parents' lifetime. Because of when most of his notable achievements happened -vs- how long he just sort of languished in obscurity toward the end, his story always seems to exist in this far-off, out of time, place of mythic "pre-war" era in my head, but it was shockingly recent in the scope of things.

    • @drewrichmond2964
      @drewrichmond2964 8 месяцев назад +1

      He was alive during ww2

    • @gamerstheater1187
      @gamerstheater1187 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, the fact that he lived through the Civil War and the Cold War shows just how recent slavery actually was

  • @Toofunktoodrunktion
    @Toofunktoodrunktion 11 месяцев назад +601

    My dad is a VP at his union, so you can probably imagine my personal opinions on ford, but man, knowing your son thought you hated him up to the moment he died is a feeling I wouldn’t wish on anyone

    • @ProfessorChaos56
      @ProfessorChaos56 11 месяцев назад +77

      He has no one but himself to blame.

    • @str2010
      @str2010 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ProfessorChaos56 By himself, you mean Henry Ford or his son?

    • @kingofpigs6630
      @kingofpigs6630 11 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@str2010probably Henry

    • @ProfessorChaos56
      @ProfessorChaos56 11 месяцев назад +35

      @@str2010 I mean Henry Ford. After what he did to Edsel, the guilt eating him alive is the least of what he deserves, and I have little to no sympathy.

    • @I-am-Hrut
      @I-am-Hrut 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@ProfessorChaos56 It does no good to wish harm on others, even if they've wronged you, if it doesn't result in better outcomes.
      Vengence and selfloathing are equally parasitic. There is no good which comes from either of them in a vacuum. They can motivate positive changes. But why not just be motivated to be positive instead? It's so much easier and more fulfilling to enjoy life without basing morality on reward and punishment.

  • @panzerwolf494
    @panzerwolf494 11 месяцев назад +95

    My dad was that way too. Always viewed me as weak but chose to torment me through physical violence to "toughen me up". All it did was distance me from him

  • @Namburiadityasairam2605
    @Namburiadityasairam2605 11 месяцев назад +413

    Wow, to see what all edsel was put through and still was running the company, loved by everyone and even missed by his gone mad father, he mustve been a very strong man completely opposite of what Henry thought of him

    • @benbrandhofer781
      @benbrandhofer781 11 месяцев назад +17

      Absolutely

    • @chedelirio6984
      @chedelirio6984 11 месяцев назад +16

      The kind of person who only understands one kind of strength because it's the kind it would take to overcome *them* .

    • @JonathanScarlet
      @JonathanScarlet 10 месяцев назад +18

      It's always unfortunate that those with a quiet strength like Edsel can and often do get browbeat and shunned because they don't match the huge outward strength of men like Henry.

    • @gamerstheater1187
      @gamerstheater1187 8 месяцев назад +4

      Edsel might've been what Henry wished he still was

    • @JonathanScarlet
      @JonathanScarlet 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@gamerstheater1187 And to some people, that's the worst thing another person can be. Even in your own family.

  • @rugvedtamhan
    @rugvedtamhan 11 месяцев назад +93

    The best quote I have heard to summarize his life is '' Henry Ford, genius until he really wasn't''.

  • @Kelpflakes
    @Kelpflakes 11 месяцев назад +187

    Ford is like the cartoon villain. He’s the ceo of aperture science who went insane and started ranting about lemons to his employees

    • @kiwigaming09
      @kiwigaming09 11 месяцев назад +16

      Cave Johnson.... You are completely right

    • @PowerPlantProwess
      @PowerPlantProwess 7 месяцев назад +16

      Down to the god danm hair.

  • @ladyalmathea7610
    @ladyalmathea7610 11 месяцев назад +116

    I swear, I nearly wanted to cry when I saw how much Ford hurt his son. As someone who's parents weren't exactly the "nicest" of people, (towards me, at least), and who has been suffering from the repercussions of their actions towards me, this hits a little too close to home.

    • @sudmuck
      @sudmuck 11 месяцев назад +10

      At least he got a short-lived brand named after him.

  • @freekashyyyk896
    @freekashyyyk896 11 месяцев назад +74

    Thank you so much for talking about Harry Bennett and the Battle of the Overpass! My Boy Scout summer camp growing up was at a camp called Lost Lake. This property used to be owned by Harry Bennett and the house that he built was still standing. Last time I was there was in 2013. We were given tours of the house, and the house reflected how awful of a man he was. He made alot of enemies and was paranoid that his sins would come back to haunt him. His house was designed to look like a wood cottage on the outside, but each of the “wooden logs” was made of concrete, with the house being bomb resistant and basically bulletproof. All the stairs in the house were uneven and had unique depth and height, with the hope that intruders unfamiliar with the house would trip on the stairs. All his furniture had hidden compartments with firearms inside. His chimney had a secret ladder up to his roof, which had a fortified machine gun emplacement. He had a really deep moat dug around his house, with the bridges across the moat being rigged to explode. He also had a swimming pool, but it had a secret room underneath the pool with a one-way mirror so that he could creep on the swimmers.
    The basement of the house was the most disturbing part. The basement had one large room, it had red linoleum walls and a red linoleum floor. It had one support pillar in the center of the room, with a drain right next to it. The whole floor gradually sloped towards the floor where the pillar and drain was. The speculation was that this was where he tortured and intimidated union sympathizers and organizers, with the blood being easy to hide and clean up. It changed my perspective on Henry Ford forever.
    Also, the Ford company actually sued the US government after ww2 for damages because of the damage done to their factories, by the allies. So Ford profited off of both sides and got the government to pay for it.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 11 месяцев назад +268

    So Adolf had a life-size portrait of Henry Ford?
    And people think that body-pillows with anime characters is a modern thing…

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +58

      lol

    • @aikou2886
      @aikou2886 7 месяцев назад

      Adolf was ahead of his time lol.

    • @quantuminnovation2743
      @quantuminnovation2743 7 месяцев назад +6

      Damn

    • @Hyperlaser_Merc
      @Hyperlaser_Merc 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@extrahistoryI love that Pog champ face.

    • @typacsk
      @typacsk 5 месяцев назад +14

      "You are ze only vone who understands me, Heinrich-chan..."

  • @haven_lady675
    @haven_lady675 11 месяцев назад +281

    Wow....this is sad. Seeing your own creation being destroyed in the scrap heap by your own father is an emotionally destructive experience.

  • @thetruerift
    @thetruerift 11 месяцев назад +209

    I like bean-ally and bean-rob desperately running after the little animated car with Zoey and the child in it.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +32

      Hehehe... the artists do such a good job. I'm always impressed with what they come up with. It's MAGIC!

    • @bmyers7078
      @bmyers7078 11 месяцев назад +3

      9:15

  • @UltraPoseidon
    @UltraPoseidon 11 месяцев назад +153

    Anyone who grew up in Michigan probably has been to the Henry Ford museum. We all took field trips there as kids and had a blast in Greenfield village.
    But Ford is the specter that haunts it. Knowing that he had such terrible demons that led him to lash out at the world sours the experience to a degree.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +31

      Ooo we didnt think of that. It turns it into a spooky road trip 💀

  • @applesplashwarriorcats8339
    @applesplashwarriorcats8339 11 месяцев назад +27

    I love the way that Henry's grief is portrayed when Edsel tells him about his cancer. It's such a humanizing moment to watch him struggle, to pin the blame on his son when he know's it's not Edsel's fault. He can do nothing to change it. He's looking for someone, anyone to blame, maybe he feels guilty that he wasn't a better father when he had the chance? It makes me stop and feel bad for a man that over the course of the series I've grown to like less and less.
    Great job guys!

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 11 месяцев назад +48

    Henry Ford: "Why can't my son become more like me?"
    Also HF: [acting in incredibly petty and cruel ways that'd destroy any appreciation his son would hold for him]

  • @05Matz
    @05Matz 11 месяцев назад +34

    This kind of context is critically important. Turning historical figures into mythologized heroes to push a founding narrative blinds people to the deeper, more complicated truth, and the lessons that can be learned from the actual story and applied to the present.

    • @watching7721
      @watching7721 11 месяцев назад +2

      I will say I think mythologizing historical figures has a purpose. For example, I think mythologizing the founding fathers made American populations, and America as a result, stronger in spirit

    • @izzyj.1079
      @izzyj.1079 22 дня назад

      ​​Eulogizing the positive has just as much value as scorning the bad. The trick ia being open and honest to the whole truth
      The Framers were rich elitists, many among them slavers. But they let the cat out of the bag on liberalism and small-r republicanism. Ford was an antisemetic busybody, but he in part engineered the modern world.
      We shouldn't forget the negatives, but the positives are worth celebrating and in many ways outlive the men and their baggage

    • @Josef-v8i
      @Josef-v8i 19 дней назад

      And the people need something to look up to.

  • @1ronDragon
    @1ronDragon 11 месяцев назад +49

    Fun fact:
    Ford's first factory outside of America was in Co.Cork, Ireland - near to where Ford's father was born - and operated from 1917 to 1984 (the next year Ireland would drop import taxes on imported cars due to an EU agreement) and the Ford company continues to supply the official car of the Mayor of Cork City to this day

  • @williamclark4816
    @williamclark4816 11 месяцев назад +184

    There a story a heard about a short conversation between Ford and Bennett after Edsel had died. To my knowledge this is all true.
    Ford: "Harry, do you think I was ever cruel to Edsel?"
    Bennett: "Not cruel, but unfair. If it were me, I'd have gotten mad."
    Ford: "That's what I wanted him to do....get mad..."

    • @blaster915
      @blaster915 11 месяцев назад +86

      Toxic parents wanting toxic traits in their children 😢

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +48

      @@blaster915

    • @abcdef27669
      @abcdef27669 11 месяцев назад +11

      “Good, good, let the Madness flow through you…”.

    • @blaster915
      @blaster915 11 месяцев назад

      @@extrahistory 🥺

    • @metazoxan2
      @metazoxan2 11 месяцев назад +18

      @@blaster915 He wanted his son to stand up for himself. Which isn't a bad desire to be honest.
      The problem was Ford tried to FORCE this out of his son by cornering him, thinking taht like a cornered animal he'd become stronger in order to overcome him.
      But that just wasn't who Edsel was. He didn't have it in him to be that kind of person or to challange people head on like that.
      It wasn't about being toxic, it was about being the kind of man Ford thought was needed to run the company. He was wrong of course, but the intent was good. He was just too damn stubborn to ever accept he'd made a mistake.

  • @TheIrishvolunteer
    @TheIrishvolunteer 11 месяцев назад +46

    Something you guys don’t get enough credit for is your endings. Every last one has made me feel stunned and makes the subject stick in my head for days afterwards. They are truly profound. Thank you!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +9

      Thank you! I"ll pass your comments along to the writer! They really get me too.

  • @williamclark4816
    @williamclark4816 11 месяцев назад +23

    Fun fact: The Rouge Factory was so big that it needed its own fire, security, power, and water systems. It used more water than Detroit, New Orleans, and Cincinnati combined! There was 100 miles of railroad tracks just to move stuff around, and Ford employed over 75,000 people there! It truly was a city that made automobiles.

  • @RainbowBoo42
    @RainbowBoo42 11 месяцев назад +24

    My great grandfather was a worker at the plant and wounded at the event known as the battle of the overpass described here 6:10
    Thanks for making this video Extra History about one of the most influential, innovative, ignorant and infamous men in US history whose name

  • @lostbutfreesoul
    @lostbutfreesoul 11 месяцев назад +9

    That is something a lot of Americans still do:
    Mistake Anger for Strength....
    Being able to throw a punch does not change reality, to fit a misconception.

    • @oceanberserker
      @oceanberserker 11 месяцев назад

      Correction: we do NOT see Anger inherently as a part of Strength. Only when it is channeled, focused, sharpened, and carefully directed can it be of use. In short, anger is useful, impatience NEVER is.

    • @gary9346
      @gary9346 2 месяца назад

      ​@oceanberserker hilarious take from a berserker

  • @waltlawson2709
    @waltlawson2709 11 месяцев назад +33

    This channel has changed so much for the better, but still kept the strong identity its had this whole time. It's been a staple of my youtube diet for half a decade.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you so much! We're always trying to improve our content and keep learning fun.

  • @sgt.fozzybear9920
    @sgt.fozzybear9920 11 месяцев назад +45

    As someone who worked at the Henry Ford Museum, the nitty gritty of the institution in Ford's lifetime, the massive collection of artifacts not on display, and the extended grounds in general are some strangest things and places I've ever had the semi-pleasure to experience and work around. So many strange things, but some really interesting history. I can understand why the episode gave a brief summary of how morally and politically despicable Henry Ford was, but it is infuriating more people don't know the extent of this aspect of the man. This is most clearly expressed in his published works, but also his employment of Harry Bennett. The man was so paranoid about retribution from workers for all the murders and disappearances he committed, that multiple residences were built like fortresses so he could more easily kill those who sought any kind of justice. The man was a monster through and through. Thanks so much for making this series, and not glossing over all the horrible stuff that doesn't get taught in US schools.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 11 месяцев назад +1

      He learned from Philip Pullman very well it seems (dude fears getting murked by his own workers so much he instructed in his will to bury him under reinforced concrete so that his remains won't be desecrated by the workers he despised and feared...

  • @Jlittlea1
    @Jlittlea1 11 месяцев назад +21

    As someone who lives in Detroit. Has passed the building and dealerships and been to greenfield village. It's amazing the bits of history they don't talk about that I've learned here. Thank you for this series

  • @righthandstep5
    @righthandstep5 11 месяцев назад +25

    Moral of the story: just because you start with good intentions, doesn't mean reality ends up that way.

    • @stevetournay6103
      @stevetournay6103 6 месяцев назад +3

      Not when the good intentions last about forty minutes, no...

  • @darthcheney7447
    @darthcheney7447 10 месяцев назад +5

    My Grandfather was an original employee at the River Rouge plant. He worked their from 1912 to 1947. Retired after 35 years. I still have his 35 year gift. A gold pocket watch with 7 rubies on the inside. It's pretty cool.

  • @abbymatson5149
    @abbymatson5149 8 месяцев назад +5

    I honestly wish people talked about Edsel and his accomplishments in the company more. He showed a lot of promise in leading the company and improving upon Henry already established models. It really makes you wonder what could have been if Henry was less overbearing and cruel

  • @ian632
    @ian632 11 месяцев назад +24

    Just came back from a family farm outside detroit and saw the ford plant and theme park in a whole new light. Great channel and accurate story telling. Thanks extra history homies!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for hanging out to watch!

  • @connorhilchie2779
    @connorhilchie2779 11 месяцев назад +13

    Honestly i cant help but feel sorry for Ford. As a kid he wanted to change the world for the better and give families like his a chance at the world and its opportunities that it can offer.
    Only to miss the world he had helped kill, a world that while it had is flaws, was still a world that offered something.
    Hope Ford and his family can find peace

  • @daltonnetwork2532
    @daltonnetwork2532 11 месяцев назад +57

    Thank you extra history. You make the world a better place

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +12

      Thank you for watching! It keeps our spirits high

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai 11 месяцев назад +11

    It's one of those great bits of historical irony that the name Edsel Ford is nowadays mostly remembered for a car that became synonymous with failure...

  • @-Not_Tom-
    @-Not_Tom- 11 месяцев назад +41

    I love the fordlandia shorts and I am glad to get a bit of context for them and what led up to that dumpster fire and what was happening at that time.

  • @nate2064
    @nate2064 11 месяцев назад +13

    With talking about Henry Ford this way, I really want to see some more series about characters who could be argued to be morally dubious throughout history

  • @SiJullianToGuys
    @SiJullianToGuys 11 месяцев назад +9

    Henry Ford, Genius turned Madman.

  • @dyl9013
    @dyl9013 11 месяцев назад +69

    Hey Extra History! Love your show, been watching since the Ned Kelly series! Awesome work, keep it up!! ❤

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +9

      Aww thank you so much for the kind words! We're so happy to have you here!

  • @joinmarch76
    @joinmarch76 11 месяцев назад +10

    No need to worry, Matt! I personally have been a proud Nebula subscriber since I first heard about it in either 2020 or 2021. Admittedly, it was originally to watch TierZoo's more exclusive content, but I was overjoyed to hear that you had joined the platform. Not to mention how successful Nebula has become over the years.

  • @22steve5150
    @22steve5150 11 месяцев назад +46

    In the 1930's, both striking auto workers and coal miners had company thugs as well as police open fire on them with actual machine guns. I wish that workers who don't bother with labor organizing would think about the sacrifices that prior generations of workers made, the battles they fought for a better future for not only themselves but for people in their profession, and develop a "pay it forward" attitude about it instead of enjoying the past accomplishments for labor fairness while setting up the next generation to have more and more of that taken away from them by their corporate masters with their bought and paid pocket politicians.

    • @grvdggr53
      @grvdggr53 11 месяцев назад +2

      That's exactly what the working people of the US need to do.
      In my country the economic gap is a lot smaller between rich and poor than it is in the US.
      But our unions has always been strong and they must remain so.
      In the 30's government soldiers fired upon coal strikers.
      I also recall the Bonus Army March to Washington in the 30's to ask for their money in advance due to their efforts in World War I.
      They were cleared out eventually by the regular army which cointaned Eisenhower, Montgomery and Patton.
      Although Eisenhower was against the eviction as he felt it was wrong to go against veterans.

    • @JonathanScarlet
      @JonathanScarlet 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's probably more of an issue of what those labor organizations fight for, or the corruption that can (or inevitably does) creep in when their initial/primary missions are complete and they need something else to fight for.
      I'm not saying they're bad, just that the way some of the modern ones have turned has likely soured some/many on them.

    • @janconner2087
      @janconner2087 6 месяцев назад

      It would be great, if you didn’t have groups that literally were selling their workers out, giving companies sweetheart deals

  • @sharlin648
    @sharlin648 11 месяцев назад +48

    IIRC didn't Ford basically try to sue the US Government in WW2 for damages done to the Ford plants in occupied Europe? And the President was like "Fine. We'll nationalise you." and he verrrry quickly backed down.

    • @andersonandrighi4539
      @andersonandrighi4539 11 месяцев назад +17

      Yes! Since ever the power play between private and public exists. It is not something that started with "big tech". We live in a second "Gilded Age".

  • @pistolen87
    @pistolen87 11 месяцев назад +7

    Ford was addicted to nostalgia

  • @meganreese1486
    @meganreese1486 10 месяцев назад +4

    Excellent series guys!! I also definitely didn't learn all the negatives about Henry Ford. Honestly, his later life is just tragic. He was clearly so unhappy and not self-aware enough to examine his own impact on his own misery

  • @ZarquonZ
    @ZarquonZ 11 месяцев назад +36

    Consider a series on the fall of Fortress Singapore in 1942. It’s quite interesting. Greatest defeat in British military history according to Churchill.

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 11 месяцев назад

      And those who were stationed there became the POWs who were forced to build The Thai-Burma "Death" Railway under horrific conditions.

    • @bryantan3348
      @bryantan3348 11 месяцев назад +4

      Coincidentally (or not), the place the British surrendered to the Japanese in Singapore was a Ford factory!

  • @YksiSuomalainen
    @YksiSuomalainen 6 месяцев назад +8

    Edsel probably drank because he was depressed and miserable. He became only a shadow of what he could have been because he was constantly put down and all his initiatives destroyed by his father. Eventually he just gave up.

  • @AahanJoshi-s3x
    @AahanJoshi-s3x 11 месяцев назад +42

    Sad that Edsel never lived a moment of his life without his abusive father

    • @gamerstheater1187
      @gamerstheater1187 8 месяцев назад +3

      Henry only turned this way during his 50s to 70s so most likely he had memories of his father before he became abusive

  • @AMTRAX
    @AMTRAX 11 месяцев назад +13

    I had never heard any of the darker sides of his story. Absolutely horrifying

  • @xaviersaavedra7442
    @xaviersaavedra7442 11 месяцев назад +14

    6:15 yeah the battle of the overpass honestly deserves like a short of itself. Cause it helped boost the United auto workers numbers

  • @Crosis101
    @Crosis101 11 месяцев назад +56

    Ferrari said, “you aren’t Henry Ford, you’re Henry Ford the Second.”
    This was a great series. I went to Greenfield village as a kid. Henry Fords sanitized accomplishments were bedtime stories for me growing up. I appreciate learning more:)

    • @girl1213
      @girl1213 11 месяцев назад +2

      "You promised me the drive, not the win."

  • @jin_cotl
    @jin_cotl 11 месяцев назад +8

    Oh my god the tensions between Henry and Edsel Ford gave me HUGE similar vibes between Frederick the Great and his father 💀

  • @TOFKAS01
    @TOFKAS01 11 месяцев назад +11

    7:09 One year earlier in 1940 he refused to build the Merlin-engine under licence for britains "Spitfire". Lord Beaverbrook asked him, he declined and Packard got the deal. This was the beginning of the support for britain by the USA.

  • @Omnywrench
    @Omnywrench 11 месяцев назад +8

    3:10 "good, good! Let the hate flow through you! It gives you... Ford Focus"

  • @cowbeanboi412
    @cowbeanboi412 11 месяцев назад +3

    "Bean form" is such a great way to describe the art style

  • @edwardmcintosh7952
    @edwardmcintosh7952 11 месяцев назад +8

    We always revel in the tales of the ascent of great men, but we always get an abridged version of their decline. Thank you guys for giving the full details of these historical figures, lest they be misrepresented

  • @adityamicro
    @adityamicro 11 месяцев назад +18

    Wow that is very good animation and education

  • @razvanandreiantonescurogoz4236
    @razvanandreiantonescurogoz4236 11 месяцев назад +6

    "Us poor folks do not stand a chance unless we organize"

    • @Josef-v8i
      @Josef-v8i 19 дней назад +1

      “Which side are you on, which side are you on.”

  • @RandomTrinidadian
    @RandomTrinidadian 11 месяцев назад +8

    You did NOT want to be Henry Ford's child.
    He went from being the People's champ, to a first class tool

  • @ahmadganteng7435
    @ahmadganteng7435 11 месяцев назад +2

    This series give me goose bump.
    Even the most shining example has some fault that important to be acknowledge

  • @PramkLuna
    @PramkLuna 11 месяцев назад +4

    9:23 the animation at the end was so smooth and realistic

  • @JohanVallelil-jl6gm
    @JohanVallelil-jl6gm 11 месяцев назад +3

    "Die a hero or live till you see your self become a Villan"

    • @Josef-v8i
      @Josef-v8i 19 дней назад

      Henry Ford in a nutshell.

  • @bertbaker7067
    @bertbaker7067 11 месяцев назад +4

    Bill Ford, Henry's great grandson, gave a speech recently at the River Rouge plant calling on UAW workers to go back to work without the increase in compensation they're asking for, despite Ford Motors' record setting profits.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 11 месяцев назад +9

    The scene of Ford’s right-hand with his “pet-lions” was badass and ridiculous at the same time.
    Seriously, WTH?!

    • @ShanRenxin
      @ShanRenxin 11 месяцев назад +3

      Truth is indeed stranger than fiction!

  • @lolmanboss
    @lolmanboss 11 месяцев назад +2

    Henry Ford is the best example for how humans have great potential and what happens when they reach that peak. But at the end of the day they are still human and not without their flaws or vulnerabilities. What I see is a man, that was so stubborn, that he revolutionized americas technology. Though that stubborness lead him to alienate himself in the end and filling him with regret in his later years.

  • @MungkaeX
    @MungkaeX 11 месяцев назад +3

    I feel like this series would be an amazing addition to the Henry Ford Museum.

  • @WeirdAndrew789
    @WeirdAndrew789 11 месяцев назад +6

    New day of Extras History video

  • @magicmariotv7772
    @magicmariotv7772 11 месяцев назад +1

    Edsel Ford: does anything
    Henry: so you have chosen… death.

  • @KMakoENVtuber
    @KMakoENVtuber 10 месяцев назад +1

    My family used to be all about Ford’s cars and trucks, but tbh the people who made these cars iconic and memorable were as far away from Henry Ford’s ideals and viewpoints…they’re the real heroes of the car culture we have today.

  • @bass679
    @bass679 11 месяцев назад +7

    If you ever get a chance visit the Henry Ford museum and greenfield village in Detroit. It's amazing, obviously it tends to lionize Ford if course but it's really an amazing monument to industry and American history.

  • @tendymancommeth
    @tendymancommeth 11 месяцев назад +2

    This was a wonderful series. Thank you all so much for giving us all the nuance and backstory. It really humanizes historical figures like Ford and makes history so kuch more relateable.

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 10 месяцев назад +7

    Elon Musk and Henry Ford would get along swimmingly.

  • @nelsonchereta816
    @nelsonchereta816 11 месяцев назад +6

    A fantastic example of how great men who change the world aren't necessarily 'good' men.

  • @Nyst2
    @Nyst2 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's impressive how much the animation quality improves once the ad portion of the video starts.

  • @nickyoung9108
    @nickyoung9108 11 месяцев назад +14

    Ok. This is the best end credit ad read transition you guys have done so far, with all those poster, studio background that then transit to real Matt and Zoey.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you! We try to keep things interesting even through the ads!

  • @pointly
    @pointly 11 месяцев назад +4

    I can only imagine how hurt Ford must have been when his son died. No parent should have to bury their child.

  • @daveacbickford
    @daveacbickford 11 месяцев назад +6

    Great video series guys! I used to work at Ford here in Australia and even here they used to revere Henry Ford like some sort of Messiah, we got emails of quotes from him...funny how they tended to gloss over the darker stuff 😂
    Another awesome series 😊

  • @Paul-nt2bz
    @Paul-nt2bz 6 месяцев назад +1

    Its how dads are, i worked really hard building a heating company and my dad never once asked me to work on his furnace. It bummed me out for my whole life.

  • @a50ftfall6
    @a50ftfall6 11 месяцев назад +2

    You're guys ending lines way give me goosebumps.

  • @oyster2746
    @oyster2746 11 месяцев назад +10

    I'm sad this episode didn't have time for the story of how henry ford purchased the workshop of the Wright Brothers
    As something that was known to be historically important the town was super jazzed about someone buying it and turning it into a museum, that is until they woke up one morning and found it had been disassembled brick by brick and transported from where it was from to greenfield village, the town was absolutely pissed.
    Having grown up going to Henry ford Museum and Greenfield village (Same grounds 2 entrance fees, they've got some really interesting buildings like the aforementioned Wright brothers work shop and Edison's home and lab, not reconstructions but the actual bricks and foundation moved there) its fun hearing about this stuff some of it new some of it i already knew thought leaving out some family member which are locally well known.

  • @Game_Hero
    @Game_Hero 11 месяцев назад +4

    9:00 Zoey is sooooo adorable 🐈‍⬛

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero 10 месяцев назад

      I meant 9:40, but still adorable on her little car.

  • @darthcheney7447
    @darthcheney7447 11 месяцев назад +4

    Highland Park Plant is located on Woodward Ave. in Highland Park. The River Rouge Plant is located in Dearborn where the Ford Headquarters is also located.

  • @rhettshanley8712
    @rhettshanley8712 11 месяцев назад +5

    I highly recommend people see greenfield village. Its really cool

  • @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts
    @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts 11 месяцев назад +6

    So basically, Ford essentially started his own Brownshirts group as his security force?

  • @baconninja4481
    @baconninja4481 11 месяцев назад +3

    I love that ending! It’s always a joy to watch the small animated bits

  • @n0red33m
    @n0red33m 4 месяца назад

    As time goes on Henry Ford is more and more validated. A true American hero.

  • @commandercorl1544
    @commandercorl1544 11 месяцев назад +7

    Minor correction for 6:01, those are sub-machine guns, not machine guns.

  • @nathandts3401
    @nathandts3401 11 месяцев назад +4

    It took the women of the family to get rid of the Union busting thug. Bold move in the 40's.

  • @noblegas8485
    @noblegas8485 11 месяцев назад +1

    I never thought I'd genuinely tear up at the end of the story of one of the men who helped cause the Holocaust

  • @willemvandebeek
    @willemvandebeek 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wow, I had no idea Ford had cast that large of a shadow...
    Thank you for making and sharing this series, Extra History people, well done!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  11 месяцев назад +1

      Our pleasure!

    • @willemvandebeek
      @willemvandebeek 11 месяцев назад

      @@extrahistory, has there been any reaction from the corporation Ford itself?

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 11 месяцев назад +2

    "As we advance in life we learn the limits of our abilities." -- Henry Ford

  • @rlosable
    @rlosable 10 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy times, a car manufacturer giving his child a strange name, thinking he is smarter than everyone, spouting reactionary ideas and buying a media outlet just so he can publish his conspiracy theories...
    Unimaginable today!

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 6 месяцев назад +3

    a shame that this part of ford's life is never discussed since it holds a lot of lessons and warnings about what success does to a person and how no one man should have so much power or wealth

  • @AustroHungarianEmpire1867
    @AustroHungarianEmpire1867 11 месяцев назад

    Literally the epitomy of "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

  • @CheesestickParmezan-zg2zs
    @CheesestickParmezan-zg2zs 2 месяца назад

    Great job for simplifying it but still having all of the info great video

  • @alexv3357
    @alexv3357 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fordlandia really deserves a whole ten-part drama miniseries to even begin to portray

    • @Josef-v8i
      @Josef-v8i 19 дней назад

      It was one of the most craziest things of all time that might’ve worked but everything that could have gone wrong did plus the rules were harsh.

  • @rossjohnstone4689
    @rossjohnstone4689 11 месяцев назад +2

    Even though Ford was horrible to his son, I do legitimately feel that he thought, after he passed away, edsel would just take over. A shame edsel died so young as he was a kind soul.

    • @oceanberserker
      @oceanberserker 11 месяцев назад +1

      Edsel's personal habits (drinking and smoking) certainly weren't the most healthy, but Ford absolutely did NOT help. HE helped to kill his son as much as anything else.