Do not buy the smith little torch!!!! buy this instead
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- My review of the Gentech little torch and how it compares to the smith little torch.
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Check that the red fuel hose is certified for propane. Most are not (acetylene only) and will deteriorate over time causong leaks. Look for a grade rating like T or R. R & RM are NOT propane rated where T is.
Hi there, could you describe how you make the connection between the oxygen concentrator and the Gentech?
I sell Smith and Gentec torches. Gentec is good but 3 times heavier but in now much better quality as a Smith torch. Smith is much lighter. Most jewelers do like how heavy Gentec is. Also the price difference between Gnetec and Smith is about $42
You never showed the regulators you use or how you had the Oxygen pump hooked up. So are these true regulators or just adjustable gas valves? Also it would be nice if you added a link to the equipment you are using for people that watch the video and want to start crafting.
Do you still like or recommend the Gentec over the Little Smith?
Thank you for taking the time to post this information. I’m looking to get into the jewelry making hobby/ business and I’m super amateur, so this really helps. I was wondering if you could provide a parts list for the set up and where you found them.
Also.. did you say smith tips will fit this Gen torch or it won’t? And how did you connect the oxygen regulator to the hose made to fit a bottle of oxygen?
Thanks so much and have a fantastic day 😊
yes all the smith tips and regulators fit the gentech torch. regarding my setup, i use a disposable propane tank with the smith disposable tank regulator ( if you buy the gentech torch dont buy the gentech regulator...i feel the gentech torch is better but the regulator is shitty...definitely go with the smith regulator for the propane, for the oxygen, you dont need a regulator with a oxygen concentrator. You just directly attach the hose. you can find everything you need on amazon. regarding the aftermarket tips for melting, those can be found at paigetools on etsy.
@@sweetgumnyc7794 thank you so much for the quick reply. I’ve been hunting for a oxygen concentrator but no one is selling any in my area… is there any other hack you can think of to get oxygen besides the bottle way?
@@PulseOVision no, a used concentrator is definitely your best bet. oxygen is very expensive lately and you use a lot with a torch so a cheap used concentrator is definitely the only reasonable option
2:39 so brass is a soft metal and you’re not supposed to over tighten it but it is more convenient because you don’t need thread tape because the softer metal seals the treads so you can take it apart and put it back together without having to tape the threads every time but with steel threads you need teflon thread tape. you mentioned the other cheap torch leaked a lot so i wonder if this was part of the issue?
Word of caution. Check as USA standard threads for gas is not a global standard. So if you are outside USA be warned may not work for you
Thank you so much for making this video!! I have a TERRIBLE butane torch that is so unreliable. I don’t want to spend $500 on the full torch setup. Also, I thought it was interesting you said not to get the gentec regulators-get the Smith propane regulator. Do you only need the propane regulator or do you need both the propane and oxygen regulator if you’re first starting out? I don’t have anything so I need to buy the full setup.
if youre using a oxygen concentrator, you only need the propane regulator but if youre using tank oxygen ( something i dont recommend due to cost) then you need both.
It's almost the exact same price... literally 2 dollars difference
Instead of using that little pen holder for your pliers, find an aluminum pan and remove the handle…then fit it on a swivel base…you’ll get many more on it..
I'm shopping for a torch. Thanks for the help!
How did you connect the oxygen concentrator? Do you use a regulator between the concentrator and the torch?
Hi! , no regulator. you just connect a rubber hose from the concentrator directly to the torch. the propane tank needs a regulator but not the oxygen. its advised that you do use a flashback arrestor although i admit i dont use one but it is suggested.
Did you ever find out more info on why the paige rose bud attachment may not be safe?
Looks like the price went up to almost the same as the smith
Is it able to melt 10gram of platinum?
Thanks. Very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
I got the Smith mini and one giant mini upgrade that I got years ago ,is the Mike Shelbo Whisper 7 hole tip and neck. Amazing for a borosilicate glassblower.
How is the torch holding up against the smith torch after a lot of use?
I’m interested as well considering I seen lady on here Thts had her smith for 14yr
Go Hoke or go home.
Dang, I went to look up that machine for oxygen and it's like $600 bucks. What make and model is the one you have? Maybe I am looking at the wrong one?
I know they are like 400 near me
I see them for sale on Craigslist and Marketplace often....super good deals too.
Love the tips, torch, and rail/rotary jig. Thank you I'm definitely trying these out, love it!
Nice info, on your request, i subscribed
thank you so much!
Get a regulator for propane and get bbq bottle stop wasting money on 14 ounces of propane for $6. 20lb bottle is $24.00
Hint for people buying the minitorches online, either smith or uniweld. Many of the copies have the adjustment knowns reversed. So if the green is on the left, it's fake.
thanks
Hi, can you show me how you connected to the oxy concentrator. Also are all connection universal on them or do i need exact same model as yours? Thank you.
Oxygen generators are air compressors with a 13x zeolite molecular sieve.
Hey man do you think you have a basic list of starter necessities for someone who wants to start making jewelry in their free time, I’ve got lots of tools related to other crafts just no jewelry specific… really just don’t know where to start and what’s needed and what is nice to have but not needed
"Incredibly dangerous" lol toughen up your hands son.
Thanks for posting this.very helpful. Was considering buying the Chinese version. Not now. Gonna get this one. Where do i get the oxygen concentrator? And how expensive are they?
i got mine used on craigslist. i think i paid 45 bucks? thats definitely the way to go if you can find one.
Can you show me how you install your oxygen concentrator
The Gentec is made in China, as well.
@@gjk540 yea but a lot better than the little torch clone thats made in china as well. gentech is made in a quality factory
Can you tell me more about the hookup to the oxygen concentrator? What do you use to hook it up and how do you hook it up?
super helpfull. thanks
Than k you ! I was looking for an alternative ! I like my little torch best thought maybe some thing better out their !
smith torch is fantastic. this wasnt intended to knock the smith..i just always felt that for what it is, its a little expensive.
Question. Can a person attach this gentec little torch to the full size oxygen/acetylene tanks with the current regulators on the tanks?
Thank you for the info. My dad recently gave me his old Tescom torch (made in the USA and looks like the Smith Little) from the 70s. I'm trying to integrate my setup using oxygen concentrator.
Thank you sir that what I needed to hear.
You're very welcome
Hi Just received delivery of my Gentec on your advice 👍🏾. Wanted to know what your set up was for connecting your oxygenator to the oxygen line. I have a barb fitting coming out of my 5lpm oxygenator and not sure of size/diameter of hose to buy.
Paige Tools recommends not using disposable propane with the rosebud tip for safety reasons.
really? i wonder why. i have been using it no problem but now im a little worried. maybe ill shoot them an email. thanks
@@sweetgumnyc7794 if you find out I would like to know too please. Maybe it's a pressure issue ?
Probably pulls more propane than the small tank is rated to supply. Can cause freeze ups or spitting liquid propane
@@KC9RXPnice to meet you N9EHQ 73
So do you not need the regulator for the oxygen if you have the concentrator ?
Mine is a Victor model M-175
Great info, thanks very much😀
Thank you so much for this information as well about the oxygen tanks and the fit to hand
Glad it was helpful!
wish i could find concentrator for less than 500$ been looking for 1year theres none!!
youre checking craigslist? i got mine for 50 bucks
Can you use an air compressor like for my airbrush
Does it use the same tips?
Im looking online and the Gentech is the same price or more than the Smith.
they must have raised their prices unfortunately..This is an old video..when i made it they were like half price.
Thank you very much sir
Hi Sweetgum. Can this torch be used without the oxygen?
not that im aware of
Does the Gentech have the Ruby inserts in the tips? Supposedly, the Smith LT has them. Might be the difference in price. Though, might be more of a marketing gimmick than a real valuable difference.
yea i wondered the same thing. i doubt it but i had an original smith prior and i notice no difference . i still have the original tips. really no difference that i noticed
@@sweetgumnyc7794 I have an old Tescom torch. Ostensibly, Tescom was a division of Smith. Tescom was sold off, but the little torch went with smith. And now, Smith is part of Miller Electric, itself a division of ITW. Any way, I see some images of the old Tescom packaging, and those say sapphires. With may optivisor, I can see that the #1-3 have gems. Can't see any on the #4 and #5. Regardless, that Gentech, looks like a pretty solid unit.
All like $500+
What is this even for? I watched your videos on leather work tools.
i make jewelry as well as leatherworking
Very useful video. Learnt a lot. Thanks for making it. All the best.
Outstanding!👏👏👍👍👍
Just bought one and subscribed. Thanks
how do you like it?
@@sweetgumnyc7794 I haven't used it yet, but it is a very nice torch and of seemingly good quality. I have 2 Smith Little Torches (one vintage) and the other likely a modern chinese knock off, both are good, but The Gentec feels more substantial, no regrets. I honestly don't understand why the Smith mini commands such a price when there are many small and seeming more substantial heftier feeling torches available. Don't get me wrong Iam happy with my Smith minis, but I guess I own better whatever better means?
@@pharmdiesel i completely agree!
thank you so much!! i really appreciate it!
Thanks for this!
Please tell me, how did you conect torch oxigen tube to the concentratore
with just a regular rubber hose. you connect directly from the air outlet on the concentrator directly to the torch. it couldnt be easier.
thank you for sharing. I am trying to figure out how to split the O2 and propane to the little torch and my midrange so I only need one concentrator and one propane. Any ideas>
im sorry i dont understand what youre asking
@@sweetgumnyc7794 sorry. I am trying to use. An o2 concentrator and a propane tank to run a smith little torch and a midrange torch. Using a splitter to do so
Great video , thank you .
Glad you enjoyed it
I just subscribed, keep them videos coming.
Keep up the hard work 🤘
@@tomrael9893 working on another as we speak :)
Can we get a link to page tools for the rosebud tip?
www.paigetools.com/
Thank you. Subscribed.
thanks i really appreciate it!
Hi Do you use the same fittings for a oxygen concentrator or would I have to buy other bits ? Thank you love you videos
Where did you buy?
i got mine from contenti
I bought one of those Chinese clone torches like that for 20 bucks and it came in the same exact box as the Smith for 200 ,, The torches were identical. I never trust brand names anymore.
yea but i had both and the chinese one is really bad quality.
$200? They’re $20 on AliExpress.
buy made in china if you dont need to live, even their swivel office chairs have actively killed people.
@@sweetgumnyc7794China is a big country wita lot of factories. They make all kinds of very high end stuff and even more junk. But just because one Smith clone was leaky and dangerous doesn't mean 49 other factories selling then are equally bad at making them. Lots of people are happy with their Chinese little torch.
Do you usually cut your propane before your oxygen.. ?
just askin...!
I have a Oxyacetlyn torch set with the big tanks. Ive been looking for a Jeweler's hoses, mixing barrel, torch tip, etc that attaches to. Harris brand
Just starting out. I too am shocked by the cost of the " Smiths ". Thankyou for the benefit of your experience. It is priceless because when you go onto a tool suppliers site they dont talk from experience. Succesfull making. Glyn/Hertfordshire/UK
trust me buy the gentech, youll be happy!