@@thebossnocompetition8757 The most important part is when you pay a few grand for a new tv, you expect it to be up to spec, which it wasn't in this case.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 You have no idea what are you talking about. This guy and his all channel it's focused on LG and Sony stuff and basically it's trashing Samsung everytime has the occasion. You are talking about specs without realizing that every brand has shady specs on their stuff and nothing it's really what it's looking like.
A lot of personal attention and personal commitment......that the reason why we all basically watch Vincent over all the other reviewers on youtube....right...Great job ,Vincent. keep up the good work!!
This is why I will never buy another TV blind until Vincent reviews it. The level of detail and comprehensive information about the pros and cons is why he is the master. Thank you for helping us consumers to have as full a picture as possible before we purchase ❤
I kinda feel like the opposite is true, that I DON'T want to see Vincents review of a TV I just bought. Like I'd be perfectly happy with the new TV and then I'd learn from Vincent that there are a bunch of things it doesn't do quite right, and I'd be left thinking I should have waited for the next models to come out. :sigh:
I've watched countless reviews of this TV, pretty much every key one on YouYube. None, and I mean none, match how comprehensive yours is Vincent. One of the biggest benefits as viewers, besides the detailed analysis, is you having the Sony HX310 reference monitor to compare to. So whilst other reviewers are merely guessing on accuracy and whether or not these TV'e are accurately brighter/more colourful, or instead simply more exaggerated, you're able to not just tell, but show us. It's such a fundamental difference, and stays true to the pursuit of accuracy above all else. Thank you good Sir.
You're a true champ Vincent. Doing what has to be done and taking a quick side-trip to another continent in the name of thoroughness in testing! Never stop 🙂
9:08 This is the answer to people saying "this much nits will blind you, you don't need brighter panels". Being able to sustain a much brighter 100% window is beneficial to be able to compensate from the brightness loss of BFI or other flicker/strobing, which, when implemented correctly at least, has extremely beneficial effects for motion clarity of 60fps and below content.
BFI is the main thing I miss now that I've switched to OLED. It was perfect on my Sony LCD but now I feel I have to have a trade-off when it comes to motion.
This guy is the absolute GOAT. His ability to just go so in-depth on all things about televisions is incredible. Not to mention his tenacity is unmatched. He should probably be working for the CIA or whatever government agency he's eligible for. Dude is relentless I love it lmao
Love your videos, you're the goat of tv reviews. One recommendation I have is testing the motion resolution in different BFI modes like at times you do in your reviews. The reason I say this, what may be too dark for you may be tolerable/fine for someone else, so knowing motion resolution of different BFI levels helps a lot. Always appreciate your reviews Vincent.
Vincent is always catching these sneaky manufactuers . He never assumes and just test everything Love it and people question this man integrity and his ability . But shame on rtings. Wtf is that about.......😢. I guess they dont have a tester for that or just missed it. Thanks Vincent.
RTINGS made an update. It is blaming a test equipment malfunction for a false 48 Gbps test result. It has retested and now agrees with Mr. Teoh’s test result of 40 Gbps.
It never ceases to amaze me how often top-end hardware misses out on basic features on has some restrictions that anything a smidge below that from the same brand does have.
This man’s dedication in reviewing TVs is truly something. I’m glad I watched his videos before purchasing my Sony A90J a couple of years back. No regrets with my purchase.
If anybody wants to get rid of most of the clunkiness in the home menu, disable Samsung TV Plus. Go to the icon, hold the select button, choose remove, then disable and it is a lot smoother. Horrific news about the S95C, might explain why my video is frequently cutting out when I'm playing high framerate games on PC, quick black screen every 5 minutes or so. I'll lower it to 120hz and see if it gets rid of the problem but I just plugged in my Series X and the same thing was happening though, but less frequent and shorter black screens.
@@grumpyragdoll2640 No, unrelated to pixel shift that I have turned off, and when I say quick black screen, it's 5-10 seconds on PC (with the TV even putting up a loading circle) and 3-5 seconds on Xbox. I'll take a video of it tonight but unfortunately can't find an example online even though I've seen hundreds of comments with the same issue. It still hasn't happened while using internal apps or USB, so it doesn't seem to be an issue with the One Connect cable. Going to test turning off Game Mode tonight to see if it is an HDMI issue or game mode only issue. And then will adjust refresh rates and settings from there. Haven't seen TV experts really weigh in on this, but hoping I can find a workaround.
@@ScottJ2024 You might wanna try disabling VRR on your HDMI connected for that PC since it's having trouble switching to a particular higher frame rate game mode. This is similar to some new gen console and LED/OLED HDR Tvs.
@@linja3946 Yeah, that was on my list, I disabled Gsync from the Nvidia control panel but kept everything else the same, and I'm not getting blackouts. That would explain why I also got black screens from my Xbox considering that's a 40gbps device but has VRR, and why it's only happening in games and not when I'm scrolling around in Windows at 4K144hz. So S95C does appear to be capable of 4K144hzHDR gaming, but no VRR even at 120hz, as I still got blackouts. Can't tell if it's a software issue or hardware issue, but if it's been an issue with One Connect Box TVs for years like I'm reading, then I won't get my hopes up. I only got the 77S95C because of a massive discount that made it cheaper than the 77S90C, but I'm regretting not waiting for a good deal on that. Hopefully broken VRR is the only problem and is fixable, but with Samsung's firmware history, I'm not optimistic.
Finally, at least I know I'm not crazy since the 144hz doesn't work for me with my 4090. 120hz always works. Also dolby atmos seems to have issues with my pc and this tv as well. I wonder if samsung would replace the one connect box with a 48 gbps version since they stated that this TV is 144hz compliant and it obviously is not.
Even as someone who can get 144hz to work, but only under very specific circumstances, this is a real kick in the gut. I'm convinced that had they not cheaped out on these ports and gone full bandwidth, this would just work - for everyone. I am very disappointed.
Ha, they both look great. But the high rider pants bug the hell out of me! I want to pull the pants down on the US... lol. Just enough to not look like a 60 year old grandma.
Having bought an rtx 4090 it's actually annoying to know that this monitor can't support 4k 144hz even though it's advertised as such. These companies need to be held accountable for false advertising
Love that you pointed out the motion issue, I returned a S90c because my wife and I didn't like it and couldn't get it right. I have a G3 now and its motion is great as is my older Sony A8h
@@NexGenTek that’s not for all panels. Mine wasn’t the best out of the box but after 25 hours my uniformity is 100% fine. My Sony A8h which is an lg panel after 7000 hours is totally fine
@@sduke802 I found that you could use the Judder setting of 0-2 and you would not have SOE or artifacts. Once you went above that though these came into play. Sometimes the motion was ok and then other times it felt like it was stuttering in a weird way and almost screen tearing, dropping frames I guess is what I was seeing but I know that this isn't a problem on Sony sets for myself or LG. I'm probably sensitive to it since I'm used to how other brands process motion on OLED
I just got a Samsung S95B 2022 QD OLED and I love the TV. I caught a great sale and I am glad I pulled the trigger to buy one. They only had about 7 tv's for sale and now they are all gone. Exceptional technology of Quantum Dots and OLED together. I have no complaints this far and I am satisfied with my decision to buy a 2022 tv. I don't believe in that crap about people being hesitant to buy a previous year tv especially if the tv is one of the best tvs of that year. S95B was one of the best tvs in 2022. It's a new tv to me as far as I am concerned. 😊😊😊
RTINGS made an update. It is blaming a test equipment malfunction for a false 48 Gbps test result. It has retested and now agrees with Mr. Teoh’s test result of 40 Gbps. I found no Samsung official material about the S95C being capable of 48 Gbps, so I can’t agree with a charge of false advertising for now.
RTINGS made an update. It is blaming a test equipment malfunction for a false 48 Gbps test result. It has retested and now agrees with Mr. Teoh’s test result of 40 Gbps.
Looking forward to seeing your comparison of the Samsung S95C to the same panel in the Sony 2023 model. The Sony video processor, algorithms, HDMI controller chip, and user selectable options could potentially eliminate all of the negatives mentioned in this review of the Samsung while retaining all the positives of the same QD-OLED panel.
Too little too late. Already got a 77G3. I like Samsung Display's QD-OLED panels, but Samsung Electronic's actual TVs are bottom tier for out-of-box settings and no dolbyvision.
My personal review of S95c 77 inch, Pros: 1. Movies looks crazy good. 2. Best Gaming quality i have ever seen. 2. My PS5 runs 4k 120fps. 3. One connect box- it’s amazing, bcz i can use short cables all hidden for clean look 4. TV is super thin, hangs like a painting on the wall, super clean look. (Using samsung slim mount 2022) Cons: 1. I don’t like the tv software because its not good imo, too much unwanted ads & stuff on the screen. ( i personally don’t care because i use Apple TV 4k) 2: idk what it is but when i turn any game on my Ps5, screen goes black for like 2sec, but once the game starts its works great, maybe its a vrr thing idk.
"Most people should refrain from using this TV as a PC monitor due to triangle subpixel layout". - I have been using 55" A95K QD-OLED with this same triangular layout as a PC monitor for 10 months now. Color fringing is actually completely invisible unless I lean in uncomfortably close. My eyes are normally 120 cm from the screen, and I have to come as close as 75 cm before I am able to notice it, and I have perfect eyesight. Closest I sit to the screen at times is 90cm, and at that point I still don't notice any fringing, and text looks normal and perfect.
12:00 I have a UK 55" S95C and it clips at 1800 nits MaxTML and 1200 nits MaxFFTML with the Series X. HDR looks stunning. My settings are Game Mode On, HDR10+ GAMING Basic, Game HDR Basic, HDR Tone Mapping Static, and Colour Space Settings Auto (DCI-P3).
I don't have a S95C, but my guess is you have the white balance set to very blue (as is usually the default)? Vincent always tests at D65 / 6500 K, which on LG OLEDs is usually the reddest option available. Cooler white balance gives higher brightness numbers but very inaccurate colors.
@@exscape I have the TV in the default Filmmaker Mode values, which includes Colour Tone at Warm2 which is the reddest white point on Samsungs. Vincent even mentions at 3:33 that the S95C is well calibrated in Filmmaker Mode out of the box.
@@Capricorn_IV Who says HDR10+ GAMING should be off? A quick Google search suggests turning it to Basic results in a MORE accurate and impactful HDR image than having it off. Vincent also has it set to Basic at 11:28. Also, what do you mean by "it should be off and basic on"? There is no setting to switch on called "basic" lol. Besides, more importantly, even with HDR10+ GAMING off my TV still clips the checkerboard at 1800 and 1200 nits which is the point I'm making.
Hey King Louis i can Help you. For HDR clipping at 2000 nits (1300 nits) u have to adjust st.2084 to -1 and Shadow Details -2. At First I wondered too, but after i made the Settings according to classytecs, it was selfexplaining to me. Out of the Box its 1800 nits clipping in the HDR calibration App.
Keeping my Sony A90J. Vincent is the BEST in the business. So surprising he doesn't have as many subscribers that Caleb has. Btw, what is that movie Vincent shows that shows a pirate ship in the sky filled with water bubbles? Looks like great HDR!
My S95C video suffers periodic dropouts (black screen for 3-5 secs) when using my Xbox Series X at 120hz. This is my second S95C which not only had that problem but more prevalent loss of HDMI sync when using Apple TV, consoles, and Nvidia Shield. My current one only suffers the 120hz dropouts.
only 1min into the vid and I'm already amazed.. my 2019 LG 55B9 has the full 48Gbps bandwidth And this, on top of being 4 years old is also one of the cheapest OLEDs of the time
I heard this year’s Samsung TVs have added restrictions on retail mode usage. I watched one of the videos from the TV Dan channel and saw that it’s only possible to select retail mode when first setting up the TV and access the built-in demo content. When selecting the usage mode in the settings menu, if you select ‘home mode’ in the usage mode option it will be greyed out and you can’t change it unless you reset the TV to factory default. I’m not sure why they would add this restriction.
@@NexGenTek Yeah I think so. Could be restricted on specific regional models like in the UK. I’m not sure if my local variant [I’m based in Singapore] can switch between store demo and home use anytime during use. I haven’t see it in person in retail stores.
I am going to tell you as it is. DV for gaming is bliss, I play BFV online with my SX and 4K 120HZ is a must for competitiveness. You're able to convey much more detail, specifically clouds when flying, so when you're in an AA, you can see planes better, when you're in a plane, you just see everything much better. It may not mean much but it is a game changer and does bump your game play. I would not have it any other way.
Nerfs are nothing new, Samsung is been doing this for a long time. I noticed since 2016. I don't care if only PC owners are affected they are nerfing something I paid for.
Think Panasonic only brand I seen not downgrade but also less market and niche so can’t afford these mistakes. Hisense I can’t personally say how does it but “updates” are business as usual like so much electronic.
@@Capricorn_IVThe "odd bits" being the actual measurements? Come on, dude. Rtings' credibility is constantly put to the test for a variety of reasons, but it's delusional to mislabel their review format as "copy-pasting".
I am a physical media (4K Bluray) enthusiast and since like half of those have Dolby Vision but samsung televisions do not, I never plan to buy a samsung television
@@PSYCHOV3N0Muhm… Panasonic won and for movies last year model still better then 2023 models… Until we see release of MZ2000 though sadly only 65 and 55” has best panel and properly made for gaming.
Can you chase up the HLG issue with Samsung directly? Loads of people are reporting this but of course Samsung doesn't care about individual complaint, whereas you might get more traction.
Yeah it's ridiculous. I have SkyQ and when I watch anything in HDR I've had to try brighten it up by putting Contrast enhancer on low, Active tone mapping, Peak brightness on high and upping the gamma and SD.
@@phillydavison To be brutally honest, I'm not sure if I'm experiencing the issue or not. I had my S95C up and running for a couple of weeks, during which time I did watch F1 in HDR as I always do and don't recall it being unnaturally dark or anything. That said I do watch in a dim environment. Unfortunately the TV has been out of commission for over a month now due to major redecoration work so I won't be able to check for a few more weeks. Either I'm not affected for some reason (I've seen speculation it could be down to particular Sky boxes) or it was dim but I just didn't notice due to my environment. Regardless there's clearly some kind of issue here.
@@tobygroves2112 I've always thought it was purely a Sky problem because I've had this issue on my previous TVs including Sony TVs the X900F and X90J, I've also had it on my last TV the QN95B. There are numerous threads about this issue just type SkyQ dim HDR in any search engine and you will find them. Watching in a dark room does mitigate it to an extent but in a bright room you'd easily see the problem, the F1 in my bright room looked like I'd set the brightness to 5 lol I tested my S95C's native iplayer app to check the HLG from something other than the SkyQ box and it was still dim so god knows what's going on. Vincent says its not tracking right so I'd like him to raise it with Samsung but this issue has been going on for a few years with dim HLG on various TVs, some suffer and some don't it is just a very weird issue.
@@phillydavison Maybe I had the problem on my old Sony but never realised it should have been brighter, so I've not noticed any appreciable difference on the Samsung.
So much drama with HDMI 2.1 for Sony and Samsung even in 2023…meanwhile, LG has had this problem solved for years. LG is far from perfect, but they’ve embarrassed the competition on this specific topic.
LG is their own worst enemy. They've essentially gone all in on OLED when the market would have benefitted from them carrying forward miniLED tech as well. It would be great to see what LG could do with QD-OLED panels too.
LG were the first ones to pull a fast one and change hdmi bandwidth from 48gps to 40gps and got really bad public backlash from it, they didn't "solve" anything
So I have the 77" S95C since the day it launched. No issues for me with 4K, HDR, 10bit, 144hz on an RTX 4090. The couple I know that don't have this issue have the tv from an early purchase at launch. The ones that have the issue seem to have TV's that might be later releases. Wondering if there was a change to the design.
Worse yet. What if samsung sent out brand new tvs at a launch correctly then for later shipments sent them out with older one connect hardware? It is weird. I've had 0 issues with 144hz on my s95c but I keep seeing people having issues.
No issues for me either. That's the trouble with pc gaming, there's so many different combinations of pc components, cables, pc setting and driver versions. It could be anything causing issues
Great Video. Have the S95C 77 inch. Tv is amazing. Noticed the black outs sometimes when using series X. Also have not connected it to the internet, so not sure if update will fix that. Tv gets crazy bright and looks amazing in person. Was this or the G3 and i chose the S95C.
Just got an S95C. On my Onkyo RZ50 receiver, initially it limits bandwidth to 18GBPS for all HDMI ports-- I believe this is the 4K Enhanced setting. This was causing HDMI sync issues on my Series X, PS5 and Apple TV as all were trying to use more bandwidth. I then set this to the 48GBPS setting (8K Enhanced) which also caused HDMI sync issues. Finally, I remembered this video where Vincent mentioned the S95C only supports 40GBPS. So I changed the setting in the receiver to 40GBPs (8K Standard) and now everything works without issue. I still get the occasional blip in the HDMI signal maybe once every 6-8 hours of viewing, but I think it might be more related to the HDMI cables I have than any issues with the TV or Receiver.
Edit: okay, sounds like the issue is not fixed with S95C. It can also have HDMI blackouts. But maybe it depends on HDMI bandwidth type in the model. OCB models from Samsung (like QN95A) had issues with HDMI blackouts for some seconds randomly (you will find many threads about it in different regions), specially while gaming. And i found, it was helpful to set it to limited on both, TV and device to avoid these issues (from my own experience). Why? It reduces the information, i think. So it is possible that Samsung reduces the bandwidth to reduce / avoid these hdmi blackouts. That was the reason for me not buy any OCB models and i switched to a 90 series without OCB. No issues with these hdmi blackouts. Maybe that´s why they decide to use only 40 gbps...
@@Kevfactor It shouldn´t "warm up". Okay, sounds like there is a different reason for this issue. To me it is a no go that Samsung has the same issues over and over since many years. And you will never get a fix. OCB models are a mess on top with these hdmi blackouts. Maybe try a different HDMI cable type (fiber optic hdmi cable for example), certified for 4k120. be careful with Samsung TVs, i would not recommend them with this information. I ´m a qn90a owner and this TV has also enough issues. :(
Yeah, I'm getting these HDMI blackouts with both an Nvidia 4070ti and Xbox Series X. Will try different HDMI cables and workarounds this week, but I regret I didn't have more time to use it during the return period, I likely would have taken it back. Not enough of an improvement over my 65C1 to be worth the hassle.
@@Da-iken i got a cheap amazon 2.1 and went back to my playstation 5 hdmi. Less black outs hehe. I might try a really good one with prime day. I just need to research some good hdmi cables :)
My friend had the same issue with a lesser Samsung (terrible TV's imo) and he had to alter the 4k transfer rate on the ps5 to fix. However this doesn't fix it on the higher end models.
Tom's Guide found out how Samsung was able to advertise 4K at 144 Hz using full 4:4:4 color at 10 bits per color channel while limited to 40 Gbps instead of having the full 48 Gbps: the S95C requires Display Stream Compression to make this fit within the 40 Gbps limit.
Wow another comprehensive detailed techical tour de force by Vincent! Thank you! It seems the folks at RTings need to take a class in how to measure HDMI ports.
It is about 11:52AM Easter Standard Time now in the Monday morning time. I truly appreciate your kind and honest review. I honestly believe that in the near future Micro Led Displays Televisions 📺 Technology with last very much longer life span, Oled Tvs which are currently available now.
Your review caused RTINGS to retest the S95C’s HDMI ports, and its review has been corrected. RTINGS is blaming a test error for the incorrect 48 Gbps claim.
@@Captainrave RTINGS posted links to screenshots of its initial incorrect test result and a retaken correct test result taken after Vincent Teoh pointed out the discrepancy between his test result and RTINGS’s test result in its corrected S95C review.
What are your thoughts on RTings OLED screen burn in test? They're 3 months in and it seems the QD-OLED TV's are way more prone to burn in than W-OLED.
Why did the LG G3 have a green tint compared to the Samsung and reference TV? You can see it clearly in the Arrival scene on her face, and also the beach scene. Im assuming they were all calibrated to correct white point.
I literally own this TV (in 77 inch) and whilst most of, if not all of the problems that are reported here don’t effect me directly, as I only console game, I don’t watch much SDR content or HLG format HDR, I don’t even interact with Tizen as I have both a FS4K Max and the latest Apple TV 4K and finally Dolby Vision being metadata that tonemaps for you, within 1300 nits, you don’t actually need tonemapping, and lets be real, DV isn’t consistent over TV brands, but anyway… it’s 2023. This is ridiculously bad from Samsung. If it wasn’t for the fact that my TV was literally half the price of any deal you could get on a 77 G3, or if I paid anywhere near full price for my set, I’d be demanding a refund. Is it the best HDR image I have ever seen? Yes. Have I seen the A95K, and the G3 in real life? Yes. Do all these issues suck absolute balls and should people make a big deal out of this review? YES! This is again why Samsung will always be viewed as behind Sony, Panasonic and LG… but mannn, when I paid less for it than the price of the G2 at the time? You kinda just take the problems and get on with it. No TV is perfect, but fuck me, Samsung leaves perfect in the distance and just kinda shrugs. Awful company lol
Are you planning on reviewing either the samsung qn95c or the sony x95L ? Would love to see how they compare to OLED and hear your full detailed thoughts on them since usually its hard to trust anyone else (at least for me personally, you're my go to)
Had to return my Samsung Q95T (2020) a few years back due to HDMI 2.1 not working with my RTX 3080, kinda sad how people are still running into problems when it comes to HDMI 2.1. Tried 2 separate PCs with 3080's when I had that Q95T btw, and 4 different HDMI 2.1 cables. Got myself an LG G1 after that which luckily worked without any issues.
I am going to say this Again........ It seems Samsung has Decided to Intentionally make their Products WORSE every yr instead of better on the software end and its ALWAYS right after You Reviewers put out your Reviews !!! FACTS !!!!
Yep last year most reviewers shilled the S95B only to have its brightness nerfed with an update. Seems like they all forgot and shilled for Samsung again this year
As owner of s95c and rtx 4090 I have no issue playing 4k HDR 144hz with windows dolby atmos for home theater audio output. VRR is also on and gsync compatible on . Am using nvidia color settings RGB with 10 bit.
Get away with what exactly? Samsung haven't mentioned anywhere that the s95c is 48gps on hdmi ports. RTings mentioned it was, but they like to copy/paste from previous reviews and edit some bits
@@Capricorn_IV RTINGS did run a test, but its test equipment reported an erroneous 48 Gbps speed. RTINGS reran the test with its own equipment and also got the same model of HDMI test kit that Vincent Teoh used, and now both agree on 40 Gbps.
Vincent question for you mate. Is there a range of nits where the colour looks the truest rather then more artificial boost that's given to them with pixel engines. I'm the market to buy a new OLED so looking at all flagship G3 , Phillips 809 etc
This man is the nightmare of tech companies and I love it 😀
Shines his blacklight strobe on their dirty sheets. Nobody safe
Not really
He ignores the most important part of how colors on displays will look like to the eye.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 The most important part is when you pay a few grand for a new tv, you expect it to be up to spec, which it wasn't in this case.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 You have no idea what are you talking about. This guy and his all channel it's focused on LG and Sony stuff and basically it's trashing Samsung everytime has the occasion. You are talking about specs without realizing that every brand has shady specs on their stuff and nothing it's really what it's looking like.
Haha ,apsofrickenlootly😅
When flying to New York and going to Best Buy is cheaper than buying a US tv to investigate. Vincent is the man! Great work.
Plus you don't have to waste space for another sku.
He could have mailed his tester to a colleague in America and had them run it. Save a lot of time and money.
A lot of personal attention and personal commitment......that the reason why we all basically watch Vincent over all the other reviewers on youtube....right...Great job ,Vincent. keep up the good work!!
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlahhow much do they cost. He could just order one too that person
Not only flying, but flying in first class
This is why I will never buy another TV blind until Vincent reviews it. The level of detail and comprehensive information about the pros and cons is why he is the master. Thank you for helping us consumers to have as full a picture as possible before we purchase ❤
Hehe i see what you did there. 😂
you need vincent and rtings to see proper reviews for tvs
I kinda feel like the opposite is true, that I DON'T want to see Vincents review of a TV I just bought. Like I'd be perfectly happy with the new TV and then I'd learn from Vincent that there are a bunch of things it doesn't do quite right, and I'd be left thinking I should have waited for the next models to come out. :sigh:
@@scottb3154 Well that's why you wait for the review BEOFRE you buy it ;)
This man is more committed to his TV testing than I am with my wife.
Than testing your wife?
Commitment...
I'll test your wife's bandwidth.
Facts 😂
😂😂😂
This man went overseas just to check the bandwidth 🤣🤣🤣 You have my like sir
Utterly stupendous imho
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That's dedication😂like a pilgrimage 😅
would he do the same if it was LG...???
Vincent is the Michael Jordan of TV calibration and reviews. I and many others appreciate this dedication to technical reviews. We love you!!
I've watched countless reviews of this TV, pretty much every key one on YouYube. None, and I mean none, match how comprehensive yours is Vincent. One of the biggest benefits as viewers, besides the detailed analysis, is you having the Sony HX310 reference monitor to compare to. So whilst other reviewers are merely guessing on accuracy and whether or not these TV'e are accurately brighter/more colourful, or instead simply more exaggerated, you're able to not just tell, but show us. It's such a fundamental difference, and stays true to the pursuit of accuracy above all else. Thank you good Sir.
You're a true champ Vincent. Doing what has to be done and taking a quick side-trip to another continent in the name of thoroughness in testing! Never stop 🙂
I absolutely love your dedication. Thank you for your hard work.
Vincent really goes the extra (air) miles to deliver the best videos. 👏
Vincent you are without a doubt the very best online reviewer. Thanks for another great review.
9:08 This is the answer to people saying "this much nits will blind you, you don't need brighter panels". Being able to sustain a much brighter 100% window is beneficial to be able to compensate from the brightness loss of BFI or other flicker/strobing, which, when implemented correctly at least, has extremely beneficial effects for motion clarity of 60fps and below content.
BFI is the main thing I miss now that I've switched to OLED. It was perfect on my Sony LCD but now I feel I have to have a trade-off when it comes to motion.
@@RH-nk7eo BFI was the one the of the biggest upgrades when I switched to OLED. The LGC1 specifically.
Great! Looking forward to a review of the Sony A95L!
Vincent, yet again, with a scoop that other reviewers didn't pick up on.
This guy is the absolute GOAT. His ability to just go so in-depth on all things about televisions is incredible. Not to mention his tenacity is unmatched. He should probably be working for the CIA or whatever government agency he's eligible for. Dude is relentless I love it lmao
and he throws those subtle jokes like an assassin
Love your videos, you're the goat of tv reviews. One recommendation I have is testing the motion resolution in different BFI modes like at times you do in your reviews. The reason I say this, what may be too dark for you may be tolerable/fine for someone else, so knowing motion resolution of different BFI levels helps a lot. Always appreciate your reviews Vincent.
Your reviews are so thorough, totally blown away by them. Thank you
Vincent showing how it's done!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 A masterclassman at his best 💯💯💯💯💯
Thankyou Vincent for the review, you have succeeded in putting me off this model unless it's becomes dirt cheap later in the year.
S95C is on discount quite often. I bought a 65" S95C for 1519 a couple of weeks ago direct from Samsung, it's one amazing TV
It's his intention to put clients off from Samsung in the first place and you weirdos don't even realize.
@@ADISTOD3MUS I think your the weirdo calling me a weirdo over a comment on a tv!😂
@@Capricorn_IVMeans it's not selling
Vincent is always catching these sneaky manufactuers . He never assumes and just test everything Love it and people question this man integrity and his ability .
But shame on rtings. Wtf is that about.......😢. I guess they dont have a tester for that or just missed it.
Thanks Vincent.
Or paid to miss it ? lol
Wow! You have always been on point. Thanks for your work.
Respect for actually verifying it yourself. A little disappointed to learn that Rtings had false information though
RTINGS made an update. It is blaming a test equipment malfunction for a false 48 Gbps test result. It has retested and now agrees with Mr. Teoh’s test result of 40 Gbps.
@@jnvivian rtimgs is bullshit for testing except their input lag test
It never ceases to amaze me how often top-end hardware misses out on basic features on has some restrictions that anything a smidge below that from the same brand does have.
You could open up the connect box and see what HDMI Chipset they are using.
my guy roasting the tv for 15min straight and then gives it an award for highly recommended 😂
Samsung never disappoints!....
in disappointing me.
Samsung is a deep shit...
ngl, u had us in the 1st 1/2
LG C2 I love
LG may have inferior panels but their software makes up for it
Only Panasonic ,Sony high end! Panasonic mz15000and 2000 and sonya a95l
Just the fact that overscan is still a thing in 2023 is pathetically sad.
you said it brotha
This man’s dedication in reviewing TVs is truly something. I’m glad I watched his videos before purchasing my Sony A90J a couple of years back. No regrets with my purchase.
If anybody wants to get rid of most of the clunkiness in the home menu, disable Samsung TV Plus. Go to the icon, hold the select button, choose remove, then disable and it is a lot smoother.
Horrific news about the S95C, might explain why my video is frequently cutting out when I'm playing high framerate games on PC, quick black screen every 5 minutes or so. I'll lower it to 120hz and see if it gets rid of the problem but I just plugged in my Series X and the same thing was happening though, but less frequent and shorter black screens.
I've never had a issue on my series x or ps5. Runs flawlessly so I doubt it's due to only 40gps limitation. On pc it might be though
could the periodic quick black screen be the pixel shifting for oled protection?
@@grumpyragdoll2640 No, unrelated to pixel shift that I have turned off, and when I say quick black screen, it's 5-10 seconds on PC (with the TV even putting up a loading circle) and 3-5 seconds on Xbox. I'll take a video of it tonight but unfortunately can't find an example online even though I've seen hundreds of comments with the same issue.
It still hasn't happened while using internal apps or USB, so it doesn't seem to be an issue with the One Connect cable. Going to test turning off Game Mode tonight to see if it is an HDMI issue or game mode only issue. And then will adjust refresh rates and settings from there. Haven't seen TV experts really weigh in on this, but hoping I can find a workaround.
@@ScottJ2024 You might wanna try disabling VRR on your HDMI connected for that PC since it's having trouble switching to a particular higher frame rate game mode. This is similar to some new gen console and LED/OLED HDR Tvs.
@@linja3946 Yeah, that was on my list, I disabled Gsync from the Nvidia control panel but kept everything else the same, and I'm not getting blackouts. That would explain why I also got black screens from my Xbox considering that's a 40gbps device but has VRR, and why it's only happening in games and not when I'm scrolling around in Windows at 4K144hz. So S95C does appear to be capable of 4K144hzHDR gaming, but no VRR even at 120hz, as I still got blackouts. Can't tell if it's a software issue or hardware issue, but if it's been an issue with One Connect Box TVs for years like I'm reading, then I won't get my hopes up.
I only got the 77S95C because of a massive discount that made it cheaper than the 77S90C, but I'm regretting not waiting for a good deal on that. Hopefully broken VRR is the only problem and is fixable, but with Samsung's firmware history, I'm not optimistic.
I'm not sure I ever read such a detailed wikipedia article. Hats down, you nailed it. This is a top-quality review.
Finally, at least I know I'm not crazy since the 144hz doesn't work for me with my 4090. 120hz always works. Also dolby atmos seems to have issues with my pc and this tv as well. I wonder if samsung would replace the one connect box with a 48 gbps version since they stated that this TV is 144hz compliant and it obviously is not.
Works perfectly on my 3090 4K 144hz 10bit
Even as someone who can get 144hz to work, but only under very specific circumstances, this is a real kick in the gut. I'm convinced that had they not cheaped out on these ports and gone full bandwidth, this would just work - for everyone. I am very disappointed.
@@ReflexArc Works for me no compromise
Works on my pc at 144hz @4k HDR 10bit and dolby atmos works amazing as well but I have q990c soundbar
How much did you pay for it? 💵
Vincent, people like you make the world a better place! Thank you! 🎉
I would rather take the UK Model. I think it looks much better than the US Model 😁
Ha, they both look great. But the high rider pants bug the hell out of me! I want to pull the pants down on the US... lol. Just enough to not look like a 60 year old grandma.
Big like that you flew to US to confirm yourself. Amazing review as always - well actually even more amazing!
Having bought an rtx 4090 it's actually annoying to know that this monitor can't support 4k 144hz even though it's advertised as such. These companies need to be held accountable for false advertising
Thats why avoid samsung. They are known for marketing not based on facts.
Ex: qled which doesnt mean anything and is the same as every other tv
I have Rtx 4090 too. I have no problems 4k, 144hz, 10bit, RGB.
@@jwhi419 right just like the 42 inch Evo panel lotery frome LG...
@@marcdurr5076how is that possible ? because I had blackout randomly every 5mins when I set it 144hz I feel bad for this
@@jwhi419 And Sony is also guilty of this false advertisement on their 120hz tv's
Love that you pointed out the motion issue, I returned a S90c because my wife and I didn't like it and couldn't get it right. I have a G3 now and its motion is great as is my older Sony A8h
What did you see in the motion interpolation that bothered you?
But the G3 uniformity. Don't do any panning of the sky's in games
@@NexGenTek that’s not for all panels. Mine wasn’t the best out of the box but after 25 hours my uniformity is 100% fine. My Sony A8h which is an lg panel after 7000 hours is totally fine
Isn’t there a low setting in dejudder or deblur that lightly smooths 24fps or 60fps with no SOE? Or do u just get soap or artifacts no matter how low?
@@sduke802 I found that you could use the Judder setting of 0-2 and you would not have SOE or artifacts. Once you went above that though these came into play. Sometimes the motion was ok and then other times it felt like it was stuttering in a weird way and almost screen tearing, dropping frames I guess is what I was seeing but I know that this isn't a problem on Sony sets for myself or LG. I'm probably sensitive to it since I'm used to how other brands process motion on OLED
I just got a Samsung S95B 2022 QD OLED and I love the TV. I caught a great sale and I am glad I pulled the trigger to buy one. They only had about 7 tv's for sale and now they are all gone. Exceptional technology of Quantum Dots and OLED together. I have no complaints this far and I am satisfied with my decision to buy a 2022 tv. I don't believe in that crap about people being hesitant to buy a previous year tv especially if the tv is one of the best tvs of that year. S95B was one of the best tvs in 2022. It's a new tv to me as far as I am concerned. 😊😊😊
Wow flying to the US to find you are the man , Samsung and lg both have got caught lying about 48 gigabytes on some of there tvs. Great job Vincent.
RTINGS made an update. It is blaming a test equipment malfunction for a false 48 Gbps test result. It has retested and now agrees with Mr. Teoh’s test result of 40 Gbps. I found no Samsung official material about the S95C being capable of 48 Gbps, so I can’t agree with a charge of false advertising for now.
Vincent showing RTINGS the meaning of thoroughness
RTINGS made an update. It is blaming a test equipment malfunction for a false 48 Gbps test result. It has retested and now agrees with Mr. Teoh’s test result of 40 Gbps.
I find it hard to believe you flew to the US just do a 5 min test. But you are a baller and thorough, so I wouldn’t be surprised either. :)
Looking forward to seeing your comparison of the Samsung S95C to the same panel in the Sony 2023 model. The Sony video processor, algorithms, HDMI controller chip, and user selectable options could potentially eliminate all of the negatives mentioned in this review of the Samsung while retaining all the positives of the same QD-OLED panel.
Too little too late. Already got a 77G3. I like Samsung Display's QD-OLED panels, but Samsung Electronic's actual TVs are bottom tier for out-of-box settings and no dolbyvision.
@@OmnislashVince HDR10 yes, HDR10+ no, but barely any HDR10+ material anyway, DV is miles ahead.
G3 is nerfed in gaming big L
@@Gilgamesh88 Actually just about everything has an HDR10+ option on Amazon.
Thankyou so much for mentioning the dim HLG, this desperately needs fixing.
For this HGIG problems that continue with Samsung no go for me
Fixed yet?
@@whitecrowuk575 Nope TV hasn't had any firmware updates for a while.
My personal review of S95c 77 inch,
Pros:
1. Movies looks crazy good.
2. Best Gaming quality i have ever seen.
2. My PS5 runs 4k 120fps.
3. One connect box- it’s amazing, bcz i can use short cables all hidden for clean look
4. TV is super thin, hangs like a painting on the wall, super clean look. (Using samsung slim mount 2022)
Cons:
1. I don’t like the tv software because its not good imo, too much unwanted ads & stuff on the screen.
( i personally don’t care because i use Apple TV 4k)
2: idk what it is but when i turn any game on my Ps5, screen goes black for like 2sec, but once the game starts its works great, maybe its a vrr thing idk.
Probably switching to and from HDR or changing hz
@@Capricorn_IV changing hz could definitely be a issue, i didn’t had a vrr tv before so i can’t compare to my previous tv.
@@3107karanhow much did you pay? 💵
@@jarekzahary 3500 pre tax.
@@3107karan LG OLED does the same when turning on VRR/ALLM, don't worry. Changing modes, HDR etc.
Bro, you just wanted to go to NYC. I could have tested this for you! Call a brother up next time!
Absolute madlad, really flew to another country just to visit a best buy and check a TV.
"Most people should refrain from using this TV as a PC monitor due to triangle subpixel layout".
- I have been using 55" A95K QD-OLED with this same triangular layout as a PC monitor for 10 months now. Color fringing is actually completely invisible unless I lean in uncomfortably close. My eyes are normally 120 cm from the screen, and I have to come as close as 75 cm before I am able to notice it, and I have perfect eyesight. Closest I sit to the screen at times is 90cm, and at that point I still don't notice any fringing, and text looks normal and perfect.
The fact that the Best Buy employees helped him to set up his strange box to check if it has the high gigabit thing on the HDMI port surprises me
12:00 I have a UK 55" S95C and it clips at 1800 nits MaxTML and 1200 nits MaxFFTML with the Series X. HDR looks stunning.
My settings are Game Mode On, HDR10+ GAMING Basic, Game HDR Basic, HDR Tone Mapping Static, and Colour Space Settings Auto (DCI-P3).
I don't have a S95C, but my guess is you have the white balance set to very blue (as is usually the default)? Vincent always tests at D65 / 6500 K, which on LG OLEDs is usually the reddest option available. Cooler white balance gives higher brightness numbers but very inaccurate colors.
@@exscape I have the TV in the default Filmmaker Mode values, which includes Colour Tone at Warm2 which is the reddest white point on Samsungs. Vincent even mentions at 3:33 that the S95C is well calibrated in Filmmaker Mode out of the box.
You have HDR10+ gaming on, it should be off and basic on. your hdr settings are inacurate. You need to play with the settings dude 😂
@@Capricorn_IV Who says HDR10+ GAMING should be off? A quick Google search suggests turning it to Basic results in a MORE accurate and impactful HDR image than having it off. Vincent also has it set to Basic at 11:28. Also, what do you mean by "it should be off and basic on"? There is no setting to switch on called "basic" lol.
Besides, more importantly, even with HDR10+ GAMING off my TV still clips the checkerboard at 1800 and 1200 nits which is the point I'm making.
Hey King Louis i can Help you. For HDR clipping at 2000 nits (1300 nits) u have to adjust st.2084 to -1 and Shadow Details -2. At First I wondered too, but after i made the Settings according to classytecs, it was selfexplaining to me. Out of the Box its 1800 nits clipping in the HDR calibration App.
Keeping my Sony A90J. Vincent is the BEST in the business. So surprising he doesn't have as many subscribers that Caleb has. Btw, what is that movie Vincent shows that shows a pirate ship in the sky filled with water bubbles? Looks like great HDR!
Pan
Appreciate it!
My S95C video suffers periodic dropouts (black screen for 3-5 secs) when using my Xbox Series X at 120hz. This is my second S95C which not only had that problem but more prevalent loss of HDMI sync when using Apple TV, consoles, and Nvidia Shield. My current one only suffers the 120hz dropouts.
Just return it dude … spend your money on something better
Haven't experienced one problem with dropouts
@@NexGenTek With Xbox Series X at 120hz? I’m going Xbox -> S95C. Are you going Xbox -> AVR by any chance?
@@jasonmenard4572 No directly into the one connect box. Are you using a certified HDMI cable?
@@NexGenTek ok so same as my setup. Yeah, my cables are solid. I’m also running Atmos on the XB so need to double check if that makes a difference.
only 1min into the vid and I'm already amazed.. my 2019 LG 55B9 has the full 48Gbps bandwidth
And this, on top of being 4 years old is also one of the cheapest OLEDs of the time
I heard this year’s Samsung TVs have added restrictions on retail mode usage. I watched one of the videos from the TV Dan channel and saw that it’s only possible to select retail mode when first setting up the TV and access the built-in demo content.
When selecting the usage mode in the settings menu, if you select ‘home mode’ in the usage mode option it will be greyed out and you can’t change it unless you reset the TV to factory default. I’m not sure why they would add this restriction.
No you can use retail anytime you want
@@NexGenTek Yeah I think so. Could be restricted on specific regional models like in the UK. I’m not sure if my local variant [I’m based in Singapore] can switch between store demo and home use anytime during use. I haven’t see it in person in retail stores.
I am going to tell you as it is.
DV for gaming is bliss, I play BFV online with my SX and 4K 120HZ is a must for competitiveness.
You're able to convey much more detail, specifically clouds when flying, so when you're in an AA, you can see planes better, when you're in a plane, you just see everything much better.
It may not mean much but it is a game changer and does bump your game play.
I would not have it any other way.
Nerfs are nothing new, Samsung is been doing this for a long time. I noticed since 2016. I don't care if only PC owners are affected they are nerfing something I paid for.
Every company nerfs stuff, LG did it with dts and hdmi ports at only 40gps with previous models
@@Capricorn_IV Well I don't know that 100% because the only one I have only confirmed is with Samsung because is the only brand I have own.
Think Panasonic only brand I seen not downgrade but also less market and niche so can’t afford these mistakes.
Hisense I can’t personally say how does it but “updates” are business as usual like so much electronic.
Thanks for all your efforts Vincent..... including the plane trip ;)
TLDR… even Rtings can’t be trusted with factual/objective stats about the TV, but Vincent can!
Rtings just copy/paste everything from previous year models review and just change the odd bits
@@Capricorn_IVThe "odd bits" being the actual measurements? Come on, dude. Rtings' credibility is constantly put to the test for a variety of reasons, but it's delusional to mislabel their review format as "copy-pasting".
Doing a upscaling comparision between higher end tv's would be nice.
Love to see LG G3 and Sony A95L comparision.
Nice review Vincent. But you could’ve just called Jason at Murideo. Lol
I am a physical media (4K Bluray) enthusiast and since like half of those have Dolby Vision but samsung televisions do not, I never plan to buy a samsung television
Qd oled > Dolby vision woled
I agree with you also.
So, are you ok that the LG G3 is really the best TV on the market at this point ? before Sony and Panasonic comes out maybe ?
Lmao, G3 definitely isn't the best, I traded it in and got the best, S95C...
Samsung has always been a "second best" product company imo.
I agree, I would rate samsung as second best as well, top place goes to sony if you can afford it
@@Capricorn_IV What abouth Panasonic!Best for movies...
@@amd3344Panasonic doesn't have QD-OLED.
There's a reason why Sony has won the TV shootout for the past 2 years...
@@PSYCHOV3N0M No Panasonic win the Best home cinema award...
@@PSYCHOV3N0Muhm… Panasonic won and for movies last year model still better then 2023 models… Until we see release of MZ2000 though sadly only 65 and 55” has best panel and properly made for gaming.
Can you chase up the HLG issue with Samsung directly? Loads of people are reporting this but of course Samsung doesn't care about individual complaint, whereas you might get more traction.
Yeah it's ridiculous. I have SkyQ and when I watch anything in HDR I've had to try brighten it up by putting Contrast enhancer on low, Active tone mapping, Peak brightness on high and upping the gamma and SD.
@@phillydavison To be brutally honest, I'm not sure if I'm experiencing the issue or not. I had my S95C up and running for a couple of weeks, during which time I did watch F1 in HDR as I always do and don't recall it being unnaturally dark or anything. That said I do watch in a dim environment. Unfortunately the TV has been out of commission for over a month now due to major redecoration work so I won't be able to check for a few more weeks. Either I'm not affected for some reason (I've seen speculation it could be down to particular Sky boxes) or it was dim but I just didn't notice due to my environment. Regardless there's clearly some kind of issue here.
@@tobygroves2112 I've always thought it was purely a Sky problem because I've had this issue on my previous TVs including Sony TVs the X900F and X90J, I've also had it on my last TV the QN95B. There are numerous threads about this issue just type SkyQ dim HDR in any search engine and you will find them.
Watching in a dark room does mitigate it to an extent but in a bright room you'd easily see the problem, the F1 in my bright room looked like I'd set the brightness to 5 lol I tested my S95C's native iplayer app to check the HLG from something other than the SkyQ box and it was still dim so god knows what's going on.
Vincent says its not tracking right so I'd like him to raise it with Samsung but this issue has been going on for a few years with dim HLG on various TVs, some suffer and some don't it is just a very weird issue.
@@phillydavison Maybe I had the problem on my old Sony but never realised it should have been brighter, so I've not noticed any appreciable difference on the Samsung.
Just amazing content, thank you for all the great information and detail.
So much drama with HDMI 2.1 for Sony and Samsung even in 2023…meanwhile, LG has had this problem solved for years. LG is far from perfect, but they’ve embarrassed the competition on this specific topic.
LG is their own worst enemy. They've essentially gone all in on OLED when the market would have benefitted from them carrying forward miniLED tech as well. It would be great to see what LG could do with QD-OLED panels too.
From everything I’ve seen, the G3 does not appear to be fit for SDR gaming.
@@DrakonRLG Electronics sells “miniLED” TVs under its “QNED” series.
@@jnvivian ya, and where are those new revisions this year? Oh ya, they didn't refresh so they're still garbage.
LG were the first ones to pull a fast one and change hdmi bandwidth from 48gps to 40gps and got really bad public backlash from it, they didn't "solve" anything
So I have the 77" S95C since the day it launched. No issues for me with 4K, HDR, 10bit, 144hz on an RTX 4090. The couple I know that don't have this issue have the tv from an early purchase at launch. The ones that have the issue seem to have TV's that might be later releases. Wondering if there was a change to the design.
Worse yet. What if samsung sent out brand new tvs at a launch correctly then for later shipments sent them out with older one connect hardware? It is weird. I've had 0 issues with 144hz on my s95c but I keep seeing people having issues.
I haven't experienced it either 4K 144hz 10bit has been flawless on my S95C hmm 🤔
I also use it as PC Monitor. No issues at 10 Bit and 144hz.
No issues for me either. That's the trouble with pc gaming, there's so many different combinations of pc components, cables, pc setting and driver versions. It could be anything causing issues
@@Capricorn_IV exactly
Great Video. Have the S95C 77 inch. Tv is amazing. Noticed the black outs sometimes when using series X. Also have not connected it to the internet, so not sure if update will fix that. Tv gets crazy bright and looks amazing in person. Was this or the G3 and i chose the S95C.
Just got an S95C. On my Onkyo RZ50 receiver, initially it limits bandwidth to 18GBPS for all HDMI ports-- I believe this is the 4K Enhanced setting. This was causing HDMI sync issues on my Series X, PS5 and Apple TV as all were trying to use more bandwidth. I then set this to the 48GBPS setting (8K Enhanced) which also caused HDMI sync issues. Finally, I remembered this video where Vincent mentioned the S95C only supports 40GBPS. So I changed the setting in the receiver to 40GBPs (8K Standard) and now everything works without issue. I still get the occasional blip in the HDMI signal maybe once every 6-8 hours of viewing, but I think it might be more related to the HDMI cables I have than any issues with the TV or Receiver.
Edit: okay, sounds like the issue is not fixed with S95C. It can also have HDMI blackouts. But maybe it depends on HDMI bandwidth type in the model.
OCB models from Samsung (like QN95A) had issues with HDMI blackouts for some seconds randomly (you will find many threads about it in different regions), specially while gaming. And i found, it was helpful to set it to limited on both, TV and device to avoid these issues (from my own experience). Why? It reduces the information, i think. So it is possible that Samsung reduces the bandwidth to reduce / avoid these hdmi blackouts. That was the reason for me not buy any OCB models and i switched to a 90 series without OCB. No issues with these hdmi blackouts. Maybe that´s why they decide to use only 40 gbps...
I get that with the s95c too. i found after it warms up it's better though
@@Kevfactor It shouldn´t "warm up". Okay, sounds like there is a different reason for this issue. To me it is a no go that Samsung has the same issues over and over since many years. And you will never get a fix. OCB models are a mess on top with these hdmi blackouts.
Maybe try a different HDMI cable type (fiber optic hdmi cable for example), certified for 4k120.
be careful with Samsung TVs, i would not recommend them with this information. I ´m a qn90a owner and this TV has also enough issues. :(
Yeah, I'm getting these HDMI blackouts with both an Nvidia 4070ti and Xbox Series X. Will try different HDMI cables and workarounds this week, but I regret I didn't have more time to use it during the return period, I likely would have taken it back. Not enough of an improvement over my 65C1 to be worth the hassle.
@@Da-iken i got a cheap amazon 2.1 and went back to my playstation 5 hdmi. Less black outs hehe. I might try a really good one with prime day. I just need to research some good hdmi cables :)
My friend had the same issue with a lesser Samsung (terrible TV's imo) and he had to alter the 4k transfer rate on the ps5 to fix. However this doesn't fix it on the higher end models.
Tom's Guide found out how Samsung was able to advertise 4K at 144 Hz using full 4:4:4 color at 10 bits per color channel while limited to 40 Gbps instead of having the full 48 Gbps: the S95C requires Display Stream Compression to make this fit within the 40 Gbps limit.
So have we confirmed the S90c is using a gen 1 panel? There is still a lot of mixed info online.
Wouldn’t the 77” S90C have to be a Gen 2 panel.
@@MikeTarlton Yes
lol Sammy loves their One Connect box. I hate one connect boxes.
Wow another comprehensive detailed techical tour de force by Vincent! Thank you! It seems the folks at RTings need to take a class in how to measure HDMI ports.
S95C review... the day has come fellas
This is apex mountain for TV tech research. V's a boss.
It is about 11:52AM Easter Standard Time now in the Monday morning time.
I truly appreciate your kind and honest review. I honestly believe that in the near future Micro Led Displays Televisions 📺 Technology with last very much longer life span, Oled Tvs which are currently available now.
I truly appreciate Micro Led Displays very much more, than the current QD-Oled or WRGB Oled Displays!
That explains people reporting blackouts in 4k 120 and 144hz..... shame
Only 144hz and it's very few. As I haven't experienced it.
@@NexGenTekok Samsung shill lol. Get a life weirdo
I have not experienced it as well, 4k 144hz HDR
Yep I been having this issue
@@hard8gamingandagslive559 Show me
Your review caused RTINGS to retest the S95C’s HDMI ports, and its review has been corrected. RTINGS is blaming a test error for the incorrect 48 Gbps claim.
Probably didn’t check it in the first place.
@@Captainrave RTINGS posted links to screenshots of its initial incorrect test result and a retaken correct test result taken after Vincent Teoh pointed out the discrepancy between his test result and RTINGS’s test result in its corrected S95C review.
The effort... Vincent remains the best TV reviewer
Once again weakness in chipset (motion ,upsaling, HDMI) & software like last year.
IT could have been the TV of the YEAR
Nah, not a chance. Nothing will beat the A95L even with the improvements in better chipsets
It's always something with Samsung TVs
I cannot comprehend why people want to buy TVs that do not support Dolby Vision and nerfed in a shady way like this
@@AkasagiPhan Dolby vision it's crap 💩.
@@ADISTOD3MUS cut back on the copium
Could you investigate the intermitten signal dropout during gaming on the s95c as reported by users on avsforum?
What are your thoughts on RTings OLED screen burn in test? They're 3 months in and it seems the QD-OLED TV's are way more prone to burn in than W-OLED.
Same as the stated 48 Gbps bandwidth by them xD
@@jarekzahary Dumb reply.
@@almighty151986 Your question even more 😆
G3 is the best
Most professional reviewers and calibrators say it isn't and I had both the g3 and s95c, sent the G3 back 😮
@@Capricorn_IVWhich reviewers? AVForums, WhatHIFI, Flatpanels HD and HDTVTest have all awarded the G3 higher marks than the S95C.
Why did the LG G3 have a green tint compared to the Samsung and reference TV? You can see it clearly in the Arrival scene on her face, and also the beach scene. Im assuming they were all calibrated to correct white point.
I literally own this TV (in 77 inch) and whilst most of, if not all of the problems that are reported here don’t effect me directly, as I only console game, I don’t watch much SDR content or HLG format HDR, I don’t even interact with Tizen as I have both a FS4K Max and the latest Apple TV 4K and finally Dolby Vision being metadata that tonemaps for you, within 1300 nits, you don’t actually need tonemapping, and lets be real, DV isn’t consistent over TV brands, but anyway… it’s 2023. This is ridiculously bad from Samsung. If it wasn’t for the fact that my TV was literally half the price of any deal you could get on a 77 G3, or if I paid anywhere near full price for my set, I’d be demanding a refund. Is it the best HDR image I have ever seen? Yes. Have I seen the A95K, and the G3 in real life? Yes. Do all these issues suck absolute balls and should people make a big deal out of this review? YES! This is again why Samsung will always be viewed as behind Sony, Panasonic and LG… but mannn, when I paid less for it than the price of the G2 at the time? You kinda just take the problems and get on with it. No TV is perfect, but fuck me, Samsung leaves perfect in the distance and just kinda shrugs. Awful company lol
Glad I bought the G3 (65").
Idk why I returned it because of vertical banding and DSE. The S95C is much better especially in gaming
Great job but not surprised. Samsung up to its questionable stuff again!!
My man flew to New York to test a hdmi port 😲🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 what a fucking legend
Samsung gonna Samsung
Samsung mobile division leaking, every new generation will slowly get less features and lower specs from now on.
Are you planning on reviewing either the samsung qn95c or the sony x95L ? Would love to see how they compare to OLED and hear your full detailed thoughts on them since usually its hard to trust anyone else (at least for me personally, you're my go to)
The king has spoken thank you
Hope Samsung sees this hlg is a mess
Had to return my Samsung Q95T (2020) a few years back due to HDMI 2.1 not working with my RTX 3080, kinda sad how people are still running into problems when it comes to HDMI 2.1.
Tried 2 separate PCs with 3080's when I had that Q95T btw, and 4 different HDMI 2.1 cables.
Got myself an LG G1 after that which luckily worked without any issues.
I am going to say this Again........ It seems Samsung has Decided to Intentionally make their Products WORSE every yr instead of better on the software end and its ALWAYS right after You Reviewers put out your Reviews !!! FACTS !!!!
Yep last year most reviewers shilled the S95B only to have its brightness nerfed with an update. Seems like they all forgot and shilled for Samsung again this year
@@Roe777 👆 100% FACTS !!!
Actually Samsung is amazing this year and the S95B oled was the brightest oled EVER last year even after the decrease so!!
Has there been any update on this? Starting to see a lot of people post videos of S95C black screening with 4090's running at 4k 144hz.
Vincent , when are you gonna review Sony bravia A95L?? btw great content
It's not released yet.
As owner of s95c and rtx 4090 I have no issue playing 4k HDR 144hz with windows dolby atmos for home theater audio output. VRR is also on and gsync compatible on .
Am using nvidia color settings RGB with 10 bit.
Have you ever had a blackout issue since then?
Are you gonna review the Samsung oled g9? And how come no big RUclips tech reviewer looked at it ?
Class action time, they can’t keep getting away with this!
Get away with what exactly? Samsung haven't mentioned anywhere that the s95c is 48gps on hdmi ports. RTings mentioned it was, but they like to copy/paste from previous reviews and edit some bits
@@Capricorn_IV RTINGS making some horrible reviews the last couple months.
@@Capricorn_IV RTINGS did run a test, but its test equipment reported an erroneous 48 Gbps speed. RTINGS reran the test with its own equipment and also got the same model of HDMI test kit that Vincent Teoh used, and now both agree on 40 Gbps.
Vincent question for you mate. Is there a range of nits where the colour looks the truest rather then more artificial boost that's given to them with pixel engines. I'm the market to buy a new OLED so looking at all flagship G3 , Phillips 809 etc