4 Month Update! QD-OLED Burn-in & 4 Failures From 100 TV Test
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- We’re running 100 TV models for an average of 18 hours a day to simulate 10 years of usage in just two years. We’re testing the reliability of TVs by running them to the limit.
At this point, we’re four months into our 2-year test, clocking in about a year’s worth of usage. In this video, we’ll go over the results we’ve gotten so far, including the burn-in on our QD-OLEDs, differences between LG and Sony OLEDs, and failures on four TVs, including some high-end models.
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00:00 Intro
01:12 Why CNN?
01:45 QD-OLED vs WOLED
08:09 Sony vs LG
09:35 Other TV failures
11:35 Conclusion
12:13 Outro
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For more updates on the longevity test, check out our website: www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longe...
Join our team: grnh.se/d8765e317us
Goal:
- How long do modern TVs last?
- What are the main reasons for a modern TV to fail? (we will be doing a teardown of each failed TV to determine this)
- How do modern OLEDs like the CX, C1, C2, S95B and A95K compare in terms of burn-in?
Non-goal:
- Predict lifetime of any individual TV
List of TVs:
Amazon Fire TV 4-Series
Amazon Fire TV Omni Series
Hisense A6G
Hisense A6H
Hisense H8G
Hisense H9G
Hisense U6G
Hisense U6GR
Hisense U6H
Hisense U7G
Hisense U7H
Hisense U800GR 8k
Hisense U8G
Hisense U8H
Hisense U9DG
Insignia F50 QLED
LG A1 OLED
LG A2 OLED
LG B1 OLED
LG B2 OLED
LG BX OLED
LG C1 OLED
LG C2 OLED
LG CX OLED
LG G1 OLED
LG G2 OLED
LG NANO75 2021
LG NANO75 2022
LG NANO85 2020
LG NANO85 2021
LG NANO90 2021
LG NANO99 8k 2021
LG QNED80
LG QNED90
LG QNED99 8k
LG UP7000
LG UP8000
LG UQ8000
LG UQ9000
Samsung AU8000
Samsung Q60/Q60A QLED
Samsung Q60/Q60B QLED
Samsung Q60/Q60T QLED
Samsung Q70/Q70A QLED
Samsung Q70/Q70T QLED
Samsung Q80/Q80A QLED
Samsung Q90/Q90T QLED
Samsung Q900TS 8k QLED
Samsung QN800A 8k QLED
Samsung QN85A QLED
Samsung QN85B QLED
Samsung QN900A 8k QLED
Samsung QN90A QLED
Samsung QN90B QLED
Samsung QN95B QLED
Samsung S95B OLED
Samsung The Frame 2021
Samsung The Frame 2022 QLED
Samsung The Terrace
Samsung TU7000
Samsung TU8000
Sony A80J OLED
Sony A80K OLED
Sony A8H OLED
Sony A90J OLED
Sony A90K OLED
Sony A95K OLED
Sony X800H
Sony X80J
Sony X80K
Sony X85J
Sony X85K
Sony X900H
Sony X90J
Sony X90K
Sony X91J
Sony X950H
Sony X95J
Sony X95K
TCL 3 Series 2020
TCL 4 Series/S435 2020
TCL 4 Series/S446 2021
TCL 4 Series/S455 2022
TCL 5 Series/S535 2020 QLED
TCL 5 Series/S546 2021 QLED
TCL 6 Series/R635 2020 QLED
TCL 6 Series/R646 2021 QLED
TCL 6 Series/R648 2021 8k QLED
TCL R745 QLED
Toshiba C350 Fire TV 2021
Vizio D3 Series 2021
Vizio M Series Quantum X 2022
Vizio M6 Series Quantum 2021
Vizio M6 Series Quantum 2022
Vizio M7 Series Quantum 2021
Vizio OLED 2020
Vizio P Series Quantum 2020
Vizio P Series Quantum 2021
Vizio V Series 2022
Vizio V5 Series 2021 
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Some of you have pointed out that we have a slight mistake at 9:12! That's supposed to be the Sony A95K on the right, a QD-OLED. Our mistake there, but thanks again for pointing it out!
Why are you not testing the alienware aw3423dw insted of the alienware aw3423dwf ? just wondering.
Shouldnt the comparison be with a Sony WOLED to compare compensation cycles and TV brands and not OLED Technology?
Petition to rename LG to WG.
For this test, did you use C2 or C2 Evo? It's really important to highlight this as the EVO panel uses deuterium which is more stable, hence less subject to burn in.
@@aaliyahebonyevedeshawn2153 as well as reportedly better heatsink!
As the TVs fail this would have been a great opportunity to document the warranty process for each display and level of hassle to get it fixed.
Samsung would fail one of their techs broke my TV and I am currently seeking legal action against the third-party repair center. I will never buy another Samsung.
@fivefingerdiscount do you know if this can be done but with two dif hdmi ports case those tv or cheap can you link the post
I think this type of usage may not be covered by most warranties.
Warranty experience and consumer protection laws varies greatly in different regions, so documenting warranty process from just one location would at best be useless for majority of people, and downright misleading at worst.
@@elijahpalmer6323 We got a soundbar system from samsung, and after sending it back, we don't hear for months, only to hear they lost our soundbar, now they promise us our money back but it's been 3 weeks. we as well will never buy from samsung again either.
Great study!
Also, can’t stress enough how much value RTINGS always brings to me as a consumer.
Why, the testing usage is bonkers and totally out of the realm of reality, and thus pointless.
@@vidiveniviciDCLXVI no it isn't karen, now go take your midol
I can't stress enough how much they are misleading you. How about you find out for YOURSELF and then report back? I've had the best OLED monitor on the planet for 18 months with ZERO issues. But I'm SMART about it. It's not much work, and it's the best picture quality by a mile.
@@davidferrara1909Not really misleading. By doing this they can show us which TVs and technologies will be best over long times, and pros and cons.
You guys are doing the work of a real Consumer Reports outfit. You're methodology and consistency are showing the rest how product testing should be done.
This test is being done for all the right reasons (understanding how burn-in occurs and why). Great work.
Y’all are KILLING IT with these burn in tests!
😂😂😂😂 they are intensive tests that normally almost no user will undergo them on their television, I have a s95b and it is exceptional
these BURN IN tests are FIRE
@@kappa171086how is the quality of your screen in relation to the burning of pixels do you play? Do you see movies and series with black belts? I bought the s90c.
@@kappa171086still no issue?
Theses are extreme usage nobody should use TV like this
Please keep it going! I've been an Insider for almost two years and you helped my father and I pick so many products! And Abby is really killing it in these videos! :D
We can't thank you enough for continuing to support what we do! 🙌 Glad you're enjoying the videos!
Sure is. I hope it was her input to do that pun about burn-in and burning lol
@@HanmaHeiro We can confirm that yes, it was her input😂
what ? they only got 3 videos on the channel though ?
I was mesmerized by your presentation because it was obvious that you absolutely love what you're doing. It was also very objective and research based - but more importantly - your findings were unbiased and suggesstive, rather than conclusive and absolute. As an aside I have onre of the last production models of a Panasonic plasma (2012 I think?) and it looks as good as new. Great picture, black level, color fidelity, and no burn in. Great video. Thank you.
Always love the detailed and continued research into these topics from Rtings. Love seeing the quality of content and data on the site grow over time. :)
I'll be watching closely to see those findings on the resistance to burn-in for those QD-OLED monitors.
Great work and very informative video. I’ve got an LG 65” C9, a 48” C1, and just bought an LG UST 4K projector as a result of how well these LG’s have performed with all the things we put them through (gaming, movies, TV, etc). That said, it’s additionally reassuring to see how well the LG lineup held up to minimize and prevent burn in compared to Sony, Samsung, and others. Thanks for all that you do RTings team over the years, and shout out to Abby for the excellent presentation in this video.
Sony does compensation cycle after 6 hours, the test has no such a long off window.
What a fantastic progress update! Thank you for providing us with exactly the interesting data and observations that we audience members are looking for 😄
this girl is annoying.
It's insane that RTINGS has to do this for the consumer because, basically, the manufacturers can't (or won't) tell us
OLED is organic material that's what they don't tell u its bad for TVs stick to LED or Mini LED your far better off
@@tomjones5338 picture quality difference is huge though from LEDs, although Mini LEDs are a great middle ground that are far better than LEDs (but worse than OLEDs) and have no burn in issues.
However good quality OLEDs these days (WOLEDs that are time tested) from brands like LG are gonna be fine for 5+ years of use.
Pro tip is to never be the first buyers of a new technology on the market, let it stay there for a few years and let the manufacturers fine tune it and fix major issues with it (eg - QD-OLED's burn in) before investing your hard earned money.
Cough Samsung
@@tomjones5338LG WOLED doesn't have this problem
Its not insane at all. A business would sooner or later fail if it points out all its major flaws and quicker if it does so in an organized and reputable manner like rtings. Is it fair they don't do it? No. But its 100% normal and understandable (business-wise)
Don't know how to thank you for such a wonderful efforts, love you RTINGS ❤
I purchased an LG C2 back in October and I baby that thing out of fear of burn in. The fear has always been real in the back of my head. This truly helped ease my concerns 😅
Normal use you shouldn't have a problem. Though this test is trying to simulate real-world conditions, it's still compressing the time usage into a smaller window to get results sooner. And DON'T run the pixel refresher unless you see a real problem. The refresher ages all the pixels at once, though it does a good job at making the screen uniform.
I have a CX with like 6000+ hours and it has zero burn in issues or even the slight hint of it. I only use streaming apps and gaming though. absolutely no news channels that ain't my thing.
No need to baby it. I have a lg c8 with 17,516 hours on it of 60/40 gaming tv watching. It doesn’t show any signs of minimap, hud or tv channel logo burn in
This young lady needs to be your permanent video host. Her presentation is fantastic and enthusiasm is absolutely infectious! She awesome!!
Too bad she ruined her body with tattoos
Wow what a great experiment. Unbelievable amount of time, resources and energy goes into this. Glad this exists!
I've been using my LG C1 OLED as my desktop display for 19 months now (8+ hours per day) and no issues whatsoever. No burn-in, no color shift. It's still as beautiful and vibrant as ever. Very happy with it!
25 months aaaand ist burnt in, and out of warrenty👍 my sony a1 did exactly this
I need more info, have you turned off any of the protections?
@@MrHejnis warranty doesnt include burn ins in most cases
*Just wait guys. It WILL happen. The you are in need of replacing it.*
@@asmongoldsmouth9839LG OLED TVs mainly hardly any Sony Bravia OLED/QD OLED TVs very few Samsung QD OLED TVs
Really appreciate your sober and methodical take on what many reviewers discount about the realities of OLED tech.
This is kind of insane that they did this long of a test holy shit. Beyond impressed, not to mention this answers all my concerns about OLED screens.
Subscribed. Great content. No filler, honest media. Amazing stuff thank you
This is an excellent new test addition. Abby’s presentation of the content was great.
Really appreciate the effort you guys put into display tests and reviews
Mini led is best for static images for now
Awesome testing, thank you guys for taking the time and energy to run an on going test such as this one
Just pointing out Burn-in has always been with screens, I've been in the Television industry for over 40 years, even the old CRT TV's suffered from it, so it's nothing new. What has made the problem worse is the TV stations etc. insisting on putting high brightness branding/logos on top of their video streams (this never happened in the old days).
CRTs are less vulnerable to burn in. I have 4 (I need to stop) and I only see burn in on sets turned on 16+ hrs a day.
THIS TEST IS AWESOME - Keep up the good work.
Very helpful. You're really improving your TV testing a lot with how you measure brightness now and adding this well-rounded longevity test really gives customers a great overview. Bravo and keep it up!
You guys are providing a great service. Keep it up!
Thank you for all the work you are doing.
wow you guys are amazing so much effort put into all these testing
As someone who uses their LG C1 primarily for gaming this is great info. I can put in long hours on some games (currently playing Jedi Survivor) so it is super important to make sure I don't suffer from HUD burn in. Thus far I have not noticed any after two years ownership. Long may it stay this way.
It’s not a concern since in so many scenes the HUD disappears and refreshes the pixels. As long as you don’t leave it on pause for 6 months 😂
@@Captainrave thats not how burn in works on oleds. its cumulative. the pixels have a life span and degrade just by being used. that degradation is what causes burn in.
@@modru2004 sounds like unless it's an LG they're not worth it then.
@@BlkInc1 LG has been making OLED TV's the longest, I'd hope that they are the best if considering and OLED. Lol. I bought the C2 last year and I've had it on A LOT for hours and hours, even on news channels with banners. Still 100%. No dead pixels, no burn in whatsoever.
Gamer 🤡
U guys are crazy, I'm all for it!
I'm super excited to see how MLA fares against QD-OLED :D
Well, from an old bloke (in Australia) who understands 'analogue' and not digital this video was helpfully enlightening. Old saying, 'knowledge brings understanding'. So thank you. 😊
You guys made me buy lg c1, and for sure, it was the best tv i could buy in 2021, still amazing and literally 0 issues, i watch movies, series and play a lot in 4k, thanks guys
I have a 65” C9 bought in 2020,..using it daily,and still looks fantastic,as day one…absolutely no issues…
I watched Howard the Duck yesterday on my C1😂 The Rtings review of the LG C1 was a main source of info when i purchased it. I wanted a Gaming/movie tv and i got what was at the time, best bang for buck tv.
Very good and scientific test. I'm glad this is being done by rtings because it should be unbiased and not by companies of course.
how is this scientific? not every valid experiment is scientific.
this girl is annoying.
This is so much hassle to inform people, very appreciated test :)
I love and appreciate the hard work rtings is doing its just amazing ❤
This is why i love RTINGS, for invaluable information like this
I love this work youve done here, as I look to buying a new monitor with my PC build in the next year. I am subscribing because you noticed a lack of data and added the monitors to the test, two monitors I was debating between. I feel like you held me upside down and shook my lunch like and subscribe right out of my pocket
these are some crazy findings! glad you guys are doing large scale tests like this, being one of the few reviewers that have the financial ability to be able to. I feel like oled burn in is a HUGE topic of concern online. i think the danger is fairly overstated, (especially because oled is awesome and definitely worth it among other choices at the moment), but it's pretty shocking to see the qd oled deterioration. guess i'm even happier owning a c2 now (as a monitor!)
It IS a huge topic of concern for many people online, and it IS way overstated. It's a simple choice - if you're going to have a news or sport logo, or the same HUD on all the time for hours without rest, then maybe OLED isn't for you. Plenty of good alternatives. Otherwise, the picture quality just cannot be beat.
@@barryschwarz most HUD elements aren't anything close to full bright white and even most TV watermarks are far less obnoxious than CNNs, so it's definitely an overblown issue, particularly when colour slides can go some way to curing it which i didn't know previously
@@barryschwarz it's not just logos, it's anything because degradation is guaranteed on OLED panels. This isn't up for debate - it does happen.
@@BleedForTheWorld No, you won't notice burn in if a TV is not used lots of the time, especially OLEDs since 2020. All TVs degrade with time. Burn in is not something you'll inevitably see on every OLED panel after a long time.
@@barryschwarz I've had my TV that I use well over 12 hours a day since 2018 and that equals to about 20,000 hours of usage - no image retention whatsoever. OLEDs are truly a luxury for those that keep purchasing new TVs and upgrading like they do with smartphones every 2-3 years.
This is what I like actual test and comparison and explained perfectly :) thank you I'm getting a G2 now....
I got an LG CX and use it for gaming a lot. Some games I've played had quite bright HUD's which was a concern. But when I check I can't see any signs of burn in. LG has built-in software to detect and dim on-screen logo's, moves the picture slightly to help prevent issues and has a pixel refresher feature. LG are still providing system software updates too. Happy with my choice :)
Great work! Making me appreciate my LG C2 purchase even more.
I've been using my Lg C1 55 inch as a 24/7 pc monitor for work since the start of 2022 and its been rock solid in terms of burn in. I was initially quiet worried about that but I've been basically abusing the hell out of it , oftentimes leaving bright white static images on it all night. There's no major image retention and once it does its cleaning process , everything is like new again.
I was bummed that I just missed out on the QD-Oleds and better LG panels but still I am super happy with the C1, got it for a decent price and I don't see any reason to update anytime soon specially if the QD-Oleds have burn in issues.
Thank you for doing actual testing and reviews unlike the other 99% of reviews on youtube which are just glorified ads
By far the best host you have ever had! Great job!
Holy crap, this was awesome. The host Abby was awesome too. Have always used the website, especially before buying my LG C1 early last year, but didn't even think if they had a YT channel. Praise the YT algorithm for recommending this?
Thanks to you guys I managed to snag an LG A2 OLED when it was on a heavy sale and it's been amazing to watch content on compared to the standard LCD panel it replaced.
Getting a 77" LG A2 delivered today $1259 new from Best Buy
I'm watching this on a 15 y/o Pioneer plasma that looks beautiful with minimal burn-in. It came from a TV studio and spent about 18hrs/day on since new and still does as a secondary monitor.
This is amazing testing! Consumer Reports wishes they were this thorough!
If you're going to add QD OLED monitors, then you will probably want to also add WOLED monitors. It is equally conceivable that WOLED monitors might have additional methods compared to WOLED TVs for reducing burn in.
i dont think they implemented any other method thenn on tv's :)
Thank you for your service!
Thank you very much for your efforts. Much needed information when deciding to purchase a TV.
This project is REALLY interesting! Im glad I found this Video right before I was going to buy an Oled TV. Now I'm 1000% sure if im going to buy an Oled TV, its going to be from LG. My current one is from LG at I have this for many years now. Its still amazing
Glad to see the added monitors. I used a AW3423DW for almost 2 months for 60% gaming and returned it due to a flicker issue on the GSYNC module. No burnin signs on the panel, the fans were audible at night but not disturbing and the text looked good for me, no issues there.
Decided to go for the AW3423DWF model since the GSYNC module has virtually no use to me and the fact that you can update the firmware is crucial IMO, just when i was about to empty my wallet you decided to add it to the test :))
I will be patiently waiting now. My good old trusty PG279Q will have to sit in landscape mode for a bit longer.
Dell provides 3 year warranty including burn-in. So can't go wrong there. I actually just ordered the DWF to try it out.
Firmware update crucial? This dell is 1 year old already, if something was wrong with the firmware it would be already known. Did you ever update a firmware in your previous monitor?
@@johandeen6096 You will be amazed!
@@johandeen6096 Is DWF worth the money?
@@supermeseriasu I would say yes. The best OLED I tested so far. I had the LG 27inch and LG C2. The DWF has better coating vs the LG 27 inch and way less VRR flickering vs both LG's. Colours are great. Wide screen provides some more immersion vs standard 27inch. I use only 40% brightness at max so burn-in won't be an issue. You can also tweak it to have 165hz @ 10bit colors using a custom resolution.
Ty for review👍🏻 and testing. Makes me feel much better for getting an IPS panel for my use case.
Awesome video. Looking forward to the QD OLED monitor results
I love the nerdy detail that Rtings goes into. I only wish they covered more product categories/types.
Keep your eyes peeled for more content on some other product categories in the future!
LG B8 55". I've been using it as a monitor, and it has 15200 working hours now. I do a lot of web browsing, YT watching, gaming, and a lot of other stuff with fixed elements on the screen...never even seen any image retention, no problems at all. I was thinking of replacing it with a 65" Samsung S95C, but I will definitely go with the G3 after this test.
I also own a B8 55” and got burn in playing Rocket League.
Now I own a C1 65’’ and I just don’t play Rocket League anymore.
Mine had 27,000 hours, and was literally perfect before I gave it to my mother back in Feb, used as a PC monitor, basically ran 24\7 even overnight, to prevent pixel refresh running
If you're doing the same things on your PC daily you won't notice image retention. Notice how in the video they have to put on a gray screen to notice the CNN image retention. If you have the same web browser up all day or same word processor, you simply wouldn't notice it as the static elements will be in the same place.
@@pwd1134 Where did you read I do only one thing on my PC? :) 15580 working hours on the clock right now.
if you put on a full screen magenta colour picture you will definitely see the retention of the taskbar or header of the browser etc
Great video, thank you guys for all your hard work. And wonderful host!
Damn, this is very informative. Thanks for putting in the work many are not able to do!
This was way cool! Very informational as well.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love your work guys
You're doing interesting work that may end having dramatic effects on future engineering choices by manufacturers. Shedding light on their design process and choices is helpful.
A great and incredibly valuable video! Thanks so much for your work!
After seeing burn-in on the Samsung QD OLED on the floor models at Best Buy and seeing this analysis I’m feeling much better about getting an LG G2 last month to replace my burned in older tv.
You are safe I’ve watched lots of videos and you good. Esp with a g2 . I’ve watched videos on non babied c1’s at 15 000 hours with no sign of burnin
My CX I bought 3 years ago and use for gaming, movies/shows, and general web browsing is still doing great. Very light rectangular clouding in certain zones if I display a near-black grey screen, but in viewing solid color screens and dynamic content, I cannot see anything, even knowing where those rectangles are.
Samsung products are overhyped garbage (from experience). Washers, dryers, refrigerators, soundbars, televisions, phones, etc. The tech is impressive on paper, but the quality control issues and cutting corners below the surface while charging outrageous amounts of money isn't worth it. Bought an s95B this past fall to replace an LG and with all of the issues I've had so far (lagging Tizen OS, remote control with a mind of its own, dishonest advertising about brightness and picture--they keep releasing firmware that nerfs performance to save from burn-in---prob why these pieces of trash are heavily discounted---and other glaring issues), I should've gone with another LG instead. When this thing bites the dust, consider me LG’s prodigal son. Samsung needs to stop cutting corners and start being honest with it's customer base.
And please don't get me started on their abysmal customer service.
Edited to add the s95b nerfing firmware updates issue and their dishonest advertising.
I was a sucker and bought a s95b to use upstairs and my c1 downstairs and ended up returning it. You made the right choice
@SSH People are so damn spoiled nowadays lol. Can’t even be bothered to close the blinds to watch TV anymore. 😂
Just get a Samsung mini-LED with its 2000nit backlight so you can enjoy Netflix without needing to remove your Raybans, it ruins your outfit.
Got the AW3423DW in early January and am curious to see how the monitors will perform. Personally I let the pixel refresh run every 4 hours or so (unless I'm actively gaming or working). I have also taken the standard precautions such as a hidden taskbar, rotating desktop background, no shortcuts on the desktop and a 2-3min no-use sleep on it in windows. No image retention as of yet. I use it for at least 4-5 hours a day, if not more, though the content is varied.
is it Still good?
Such a great presentation. Please More 🙂
Wow. Really great video. Hope to see more!
Great video, looking forward to the 12 month mark, I also really enjoy the little funny edits you guys are making, keep it up!
Definitely looking forward to it as well and we're happy to hear you're enjoying the little edits! Thanks for watching as always :)
@@RTINGScomRD Fun and information go together like peanut butter and jelly. Can't wait for more updates! Especially on the monitors!
Impressive work and I can't imagine how much effort went into this. I would like to request a whole series on TV diagnostics and how to fix them.
Definitely something to consider, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for all your work and good explainations !
1000 times better than reviews 😊
Thank you guys so much that work is important to improve market products quality.
Love this durability test! I am in the evaluation phase to possibly replace a perfectly operating 2007 vintage Pioneer Elite 50” plasma. I’ve read the longevity and reliability of many modern TV’s are suspect and don’t last very long. Obviously I keep items for a long time, so tests like this are valuable.
Love rtings!
How much is that plasma TV when you first bought it?
I still use my 2013 Samsung 60" f8500 plasma in my extra room. It's funny how it "just works" and the smart features can easily be avoided. In my other rooms I have gone through 6 TVs since 2013. What I have learned is that poor software quality limits longevity. Over time a bug will appear and or a software update will introduce a new bug. This has happened with multiple manufacturers.
@@ReinKayomi $3500. The Elite was a model line only available is high end stereo stores, and not Best Buy, Costco, etc. It has mounted vertically on each side detachable 20W powered speakers, so it has great sound. It’s only a 1080p so the screen is adequate relative to today’s standard, the side viewing is great, and there are no glitches with its operation. I run my streaming through a Roku unit.
The Elite series is no longer offered. A buddy of mine who worked for Pioneer 10 years ago told me the factory was shut down because the TV was too expensive to make given others and the profit margins. He’s advised me to keep it.
Logically it’s hard for me to move in from something that is working fine and doing it’s job, but when I see those bright TV’s at Costco, it’s hard not to get drawn in. Then aI remind myself I’ll need to get a soundbar, have to to deal with the software glitches, and so on. I like simple and reliable, so I’m sticking with the Pioneer…for now.
Modern TVs can last a very long time especially LCD TVs. Of course you can get unlucky and get a dud with anything.
@ReinKayomi I had an even earlier pioneer 43" plasma, maybe around 2005 and that cost me $5000 Australian dollars, roughly £3000 as I'm English and always convert back to that. I don't know your currency, but you get the idea. Plasma was cutting edge back then and pioneer were the rolls Royce of plasma back then. Terrible burn in from gaming though, I had images burnt in all over it.
I love this video as it’s super comprehensive in regard to the durability of OLED technologies. People keep saying we can use OLED screens however we want with out issue… it’s a lie!
This is such an awesome thing that RTINGS is doing. I was very close to returning my new LG OLED because I was buying all the hype that QD OLED was the savior of OLED burn in. I still think it’s good tech, looks like it has some growing pains though.
Love the enthusiasm. Keep it up!
Thank you for running this extensive test (and for the more detailed explanation this time how and what you are running).
That's not good news for QD-Oled which, at it's introduction, was hyped for being less prone to burn- in than WOled - too bad that this doesn't seem the case. I hope this year's second generation really is 2x more durable aka less prone to burn- in. Would be cool if you could enter a Samsuns S95C in the test as well to see if there is any improvements with this year's QD-Oleds.
I'm less concerned about the burn in, and more concerned about how long the subpixels last. I know red and green traditionally fade before blue. I wonder how that will be with QD-OLED.
This is exactly what I was wondering and want to know. I'm looking into buying the S95C or S90C 77" or the G3
@@randallsmith2521 ? That's exactly what burn- in is; when some subpixels fade away/loose their luminane before others.
That's a great test and I'm very glad to see that you guys are doing this as this is something that absolutely needed to be done. However, one thing that it does actually illustrate (that wasn't really noted in the video) is that it shows just exactly how hard it really is (and how much time it takes with the SAME image on the screen) before any of the new modern OLEDs and QD-OLEDs will exhibit any evidence of burn in at all. The good news here is that most people actually DO change channels in their homes multiple times a day and usually only watch the same channel for a few hours at a time before moving on to something else, switching to a streaming source, watching a Blu-ray or playing a video game. Variety is clearly your friend here! Keep in mind that the more frequently you change content and sources, the less likely you are to ever burn an image of any kind into your screen. In reality, most typical owners of these sets will never even come close to burning an image into their screens in their lifetime. Something to keep in mind for any OLED or QD-OLED owner.
Does the diversity of content help prevent burn-in, or is it due to reducing the duration for which the same content is displayed on the screen?
@@Akyax the second one. You just want the average color most displayed by all the pixels to be nearly the same
@@vonj6173 Thanks, the first one then :D
@@Akyax I know you already got your answer to this question but you do realize it doesn’t matter about the duration or the content that’s being displayed. Just enjoy your TV.
Great comment I hope others pay attention to what you said no one is going to watch one channel 18 hours a day two weeks straight on your display settings turned up this super brightness in your display protection settings turned off. This is a dumb video review
I'm so glad you guys have started a RUclips channel! I have used your website for yeeears to buy all of my electronics I could find on there. My keyboard, mouse, gaming headset, monitor, etc. Now I'm looking at TVs and I'm torn between LG C2 and S95B. I tend to like Samsung products, but this helped solidify the decision to stay away from their TV. Definitely subscribed with excitement and I look forward to future videos.
This is actually our second channel focussed on R&D content. Our main channel has been active for several years! 😊 as far as help with your purchase, if you want to reach out to our experts, you can do that via our insider forums! www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice
This thumbnail is the best on so many levels, props to everyone involved 👏
I used a CX 48" as a Monitor for over 1 year, later I switched to a C2 42". The C2 is now 9 months in use. The CX is used as a normal TV after the switch.
I surf a lot and read comics with black and white content in the middle of the screen. I also game a lot on it, but I don´t use it as a "office" monitor. The monitor is 4-12 hours on per day. I use pixelshift and autodimming with OLED-light set on 80.
There is no burn in or any kind of change to be seen on both TVs.
If you are using a pc on an Oled type display, I recommend switching to a dark mode for any application. Also, enabling a screen saver helps when you are away from your pc. I never had a problem with screen burn in on any of my Oled displays. Although, any display in theory could get burn in over time depending on usage.
Im gaming on my 65 lg c1 for over a year now on my laptop via hdmi. Also ps5 and so far, knock on wood havent had any issues. I don't baby it at all some 6 hour sessions with WoW and other games. I would never game on any thing else after. I love my oled. Best damn tv ive ever owned :)
No problem even on the phone? All oled phones i had got various degree of burn-in and i dont even crank the brightness past the middle
@@RCmaniac667 completely backwards comparison bud! With the phones, the screens are made on top of the battery! No heat dissipation will always make any OLED-QD/AMOLED screen burn a lot quicker since having static apps and on top of the heat is just begging for issues! 😅
@@RCmaniac667 i have tiktok burn in on my S21
@@73maplepiper i want to play world of warcraft with oled but wow has so many static UI items im afraid my actionbars and everything will burn in
Big thanks for your work!
I bought a LG C1 in, i think, December of 2021 and this video only confirms what my impression is from all the movies and tv shows i watched, it was a great buy and i dont think there is really anything better i could have bought for the same price
This is super useful info! Although I wonder if running TVs for 5x the normal hours in a day that they’d normally run is the same as 1/5 of the hours over 10 years with the tv able to cool off more between viewings. Still the point is to see which ones fail.. so still useful
This is super interesting and relevant to newer OLED monitors - which are much more likely use case scenarios that would be impacted by burn-in. Despite the marketing and industry wide adoption, it seems like OLED still aren't suitable to use as "general use" monitors.
Using at reduced brightness extends OLED lifetime by a lot.
@@dtibor5903yea using the monitor with compromised quality extends use.
Pursuing “One tool for all purposes” always results in major problems. Can’t escape from “specific tool for specific purpose”.
@@dtibor5903the organic material still dies eventually and then it’s just an expensive paperweight 😮
This was a phenomenal video.
On an anecdotal note, I've been using my LG C1 for gaming and my PC for years now with no burn-in. I *do* keep brightness on the lower side though.
Would highly recommend the C series, in fact, I'm buying another this week.
Informative video. Keep doing this testing, this will be useful!
No one would have ever guessed that TCL & Vizio would be the only brands with no failures so far 😅
I have 2 TCL TVs and love them! The 55R646 Google TV and the 65R655 Roku TV. Both are amazing for TV, Movies, Apps, (800+ channels of free TV if ya got the internet) Gaming (PS5) & using as PC monitor with my gaming laptop hooked up HDMI and both are 4k 120hz & 144hz with 2.1 HDMI. Once ya dial in the settings for SDR, HDR, Dolby etc and save them they look amazing imo and zero problems so far. One is 2021 other is 2022 both 6 Series and both get a ton of use like on 8 to 12 hours a day use.
TCL has always been reliable for me and my family. Out of all the budget brands they are the most consistent. They put in a lot of effort to help their brand name and it shows
@@chickenpasta7359 Yes imo TCL > Hisense as I was deciding between the 2 and pulled trigger for TCL
I worked at Best Buy and sold these TVs constantly. The LED backlight giving it basically impossible burn-in was a huge selling point
@@joecool4656 Also the Rtings of the 2.1HDMi TCL 2021 & 2022 versions are like only 2.0 pts less than the C2 which is $500 more & better than the SONY of the same class which is $300, more.
I'm really loving how interactive Abby is compared to others that have done videos for RTings.
I agree
She's more alive
Don't need to shit on others.
Honestly, I much prefer the more neutral, factual presentation that has been done on Rtings so far.
Thank you very much cutie for this amazing video! Amazing work and presentation. Very helpful, I learned a lot about this subject. Incredible channel!
You guys rock, really interesting stuff. I always check your monitor reviews
Proud lg c1 55” owner here. Been running it strong almost a year. Love it so much especially with my Phillips hue lights set up. I’m very happy to see lg is doing great. I got my tv because it supports 120 fps gaming and Dolby vision as well hdr. I believe I got it on sale for around 1200 maybe 1100 at Best Buy.
wow a whole year!! unheard of for a tv!
Thank you for your testing! Interesting results. I remember Samsung boasting their QD-OLED tech is much less prone to burn-in than WOLED. Didn't age well, eh? On the other hand I planned to replace my C1 in the future for QD-OLED, let's hope Samsung will improve it to be at least as good as WOLED burn-in wise.
That's probably why they nerfed the brightness
lol moron still bought a oled ..... hahahah....
That’s Samsung for you. They constantly lie about their product’s capabilities.
@@wakaflockaproject still brighter than LG at least
@@Captainrave brightness is overrated
This presenter is the best I have seen in your videos so far. good job!
I was having that big internal debate on if I should stay with lg or move and now I think I know thanks to you!
My initial thoughts regarding image retention of QD-OLED tvs were vindicated by you. I had many people arguing with me this issue was resolved - and they were im fact wrong. Thanks for everything you guys do.😅
Great work! What we can all learn from this is that no TV is perfect, so DONT overpay for a TV. And be aware that OLEDs will need replacing every 5 to 10 years due to unavoidable burn in. Im about to replace my LG B6P for a LG C2 when the C3 comes out, since prices of the C2 will drop to clear inventory.
It’s not unavoidable though, nor does the video claim such.
Thanks for your investigation ❤❤❤
that was soo insightful !! thx for the vid